The Ben Shapiro Show - October 22, 2023


The Fight For Our Kids l Jeremy Boreing


Episode Stats

Length

42 minutes

Words per Minute

207.59193

Word Count

8,750

Sentence Count

572

Misogynist Sentences

1


Summary

In this episode of The Daily Wire's new podcast, The BentKey Podcast, host Alex Blumberg sits down with co-founder Jeremy Boring and co-producer Caleb Robinson to discuss their plans to launch a new company, BentKey, a children's entertainment company, in the wake of a growing number of leaks about what's going on inside Disney, including a leaked audio recording of a gay employee being told to create a gay agenda in their kids' shows, and a leaked video of a company executive encouraging cross-dressing employees to travel for abortions, and promoting anti-racism indoctrination of its employees in Florida, to name a few of the things Walt Disney has been accused of doing in regards to their kids and why it s time to start a kids' entertainment company. This is a must-listen if you ve ever wondered what it s like to work at a company as big as Disney, or if you re curious about what s going on in the world s most influential children s entertainment giant, and what it means to be a kid in the entertainment industry today. This is the episode you need to listen to hear! And if you haven t yet, be sure to check out The Bentkey Podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever else you get your news and information, you won t want to miss it! Subscribe, Like, Share, and Subscribe to our newest episode, The Boringcast, wherever you re listening to this podcast. It s going to be consumed, Subscribe, and share it with your friends and family! Thank you so much for listening to The Boredcast, we really appreciate it. We re a lot, we re making it a great place to spread the word out there. . - The Booringcast. - Thank you for listening and sharing it around the world, and we re looking forward to hearing from you! - Cheers, Jeremy, Caleb, and the Boorings Podcast. and the Bentkey Crew - AKA the Boredoc Crew! - Alex, Alex, from Croatia, AKA Mr. Boring, , and the rest of the BentKey Crew. , Alex, , AKA of The Bent Key Podcast, . . . , , & the Bent Key, and , the Podcast from Croatia from Croatia ( ) is a podcast about all things podcasting.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 A little over a year ago, those tapes from Chris Rufo leaked of what was going on inside Disney, and you said, we should do something.
00:00:06.000 We should launch into kids' content.
00:00:08.000 I wrote you back and said, you don't know how to run a business.
00:00:11.000 This is impossible.
00:00:12.000 What you're suggesting could never possibly happen.
00:00:14.000 And then I laid back in bed to go back to sleep for another 40 minutes.
00:00:18.000 And as I sat there, I thought, damn it.
00:00:21.000 He's right.
00:00:22.000 I drive into work.
00:00:24.000 By now, our COO, John Lewis, is involved in the conversation.
00:00:27.000 And we've decided that we're just going to do it.
00:00:29.000 We're going to announce this initiative.
00:00:30.000 We're going to change the direction of our company in a deeply profound way.
00:00:34.000 This isn't launching chocolates.
00:00:36.000 And so we decided we would host a live town hall that day and I would announce it to the world while announcing to our staff the Daily Wire was going to launch into kids entertainment with a $100 million commitment that we were going to change the paradigm.
00:00:47.000 And that's when the work started.
00:00:50.000 Disney controls the greatest content library ever created.
00:00:53.000 Their cultural reach, specifically with kids, is far greater than anything that has ever existed throughout human history.
00:00:59.000 From Snow White through Frozen, the company has captured the consciousness of kids and parents around the world.
00:01:05.000 In early 2022, leaked footage revealed Disney company executives pushing the installation of queerness and radical messaging directly into their kids' content.
00:01:14.000 One of Disney's executive producers said during an internal company meeting that she's implementing a, quote, not at all secret gay agenda and is regularly adding this and other radical messages to her kids shows.
00:01:24.000 For example, in the show The Proud Family, Disney stirs racial division with songs like Slaves Built This Country, where kids rap about descendants of slaves earning reparations.
00:01:33.000 Viral videos released this year show Disney's live action Snow White star Rachel Zegler condemning the iconic Disney story that launched the company into what it is today.
00:01:41.000 Beyond just their content, Disney is a corporation now known for pushing all the worst excesses of the woke left, tossing aside gendered greetings at its theme parks, while employing crossdressers at its children's boutiques, paying for its employees to travel for abortions, promoting anti-racism indoctrination of its employees, going to war on behalf of radical left-wing social policy in Florida.
00:02:02.000 Walt Disney loved America, but the company he once founded is now on a very different path.
00:02:07.000 When Jeremy Boring, Caleb Robinson, and I created The Daily Wire, we didn't just do it to get into politics or just to get into podcasting.
00:02:13.000 We launched this company so we could have a marked influence on the culture of America.
00:02:18.000 We wanted to reintroduce traditional values back into a country that has long forgotten what those values stand for.
00:02:24.000 We have been fighting back with multiple entries in the entertainment space, and we continue to do so with upcoming and exciting projects like What is a Woman, Terror on the Prairie, the upcoming Pendragon Cycle.
00:02:34.000 When we saw what was happening with Disney, the most influential kids brand on the planet in history, we knew we couldn't sit still.
00:02:40.000 We immediately got to work.
00:02:41.000 In March 2022, we announced a commitment of $100 million over three years to launch a children's entertainment company.
00:02:48.000 Just this past week, on the date of the 100th anniversary of the founding of Disney, we realized the launch of that commitment.
00:02:54.000 We call it BendKey.
00:02:56.000 Benkei is dedicated to creating the next generation of timeless stories to transport kids to a world of adventure, imagination, and joy.
00:03:04.000 This isn't teaching politics to kids.
00:03:05.000 It's about giving kids a proper childhood, creating for them a sense of wonder and adventure.
00:03:10.000 It's about protecting kids from being used by agendas of any stripe.
00:03:14.000 It's material I would put my kids in front of.
00:03:17.000 All in all, Caleb, Jeremy, and I have created an entirely new company.
00:03:21.000 We've hired an entirely new team to create these incredible shows.
00:03:23.000 We've created an entirely new app, available on all the most popular devices, to deliver this content onto devices and into your home.
00:03:30.000 Not only did we create shows from scratch, we also acquired a massive amount of content, all centered on the same values as the shows we've created.
00:03:37.000 There are over 150 episodes available right now on the BentKey app, with new episodes released every single Saturday morning.
00:03:44.000 I am so proud of BentKey.
00:03:46.000 More proud of BentKey probably than anything we've ever done at this company.
00:03:49.000 I know Caleb is too, and I know for sure that Jeremy is.
00:03:52.000 I wanted to bring Jeremy back to the Sunday Special to reiterate and discuss our overall strategy in the entertainment and culture space, and to highlight the amazing work we've started with BentKey.
00:04:01.000 So, please welcome back, all the way from Croatia, Daily Wire co-founder, producer,
00:04:05.000 director, and so much more, my best friend, Jeremy Boring.
00:04:18.000 So my good buddy Jeremy Boring, welcome to the Sunday special again.
00:04:22.000 So I want to separate this conversation into two big pieces.
00:04:25.000 Piece one is going to be all fun and awesome stuff that we're doing here at Daily Wire and now at Benkey.
00:04:30.000 And then part two, we're going to get into the politics.
00:04:32.000 So we're going to separate that out for the listeners because...
00:04:34.000 It's very hard to mix these two particular topics.
00:04:36.000 But let's jump into stuff that's actually good in the world happening right now.
00:04:39.000 So we've launched at Daily Wire, and thanks to your leadership, we've launched the biggest initiative in the history of Daily Wire, and that is children's programming over at BentKey.
00:04:48.000 So why don't we start off with kind of the conversation.
00:04:50.000 Let's go through the history of how BentKey came about.
00:04:53.000 Why don't we start with the first question.
00:04:54.000 What the hell is BentKey?
00:04:55.000 Where did the term BentKey come from?
00:04:56.000 I know this question's been asked you a thousand times because you literally wear a BentKey around your neck and have ever since I've known you.
00:05:02.000 But where does that even come from?
00:05:04.000 Yeah, so I wear every day for the last 28 years, I've had this band key around my neck.
00:05:09.000 And it's the key to a small theater in a town called Post, Texas, where I grew up doing, doing plays and where I kind of discovered who I was and what I wanted to do in life.
00:05:18.000 And it bent in the lock one day.
00:05:19.000 The full story of that is probably not one for this conversation.
00:05:25.000 It's one for, you know, when there's bourbon around and cigars and long hours late into the evening.
00:05:29.000 But it bent in the lock and I put it on a string because it sort of represented this important period in my life where I was being trusted with responsibility for the first time, where I was associating with adults for the first time, where I was sort of discovering who I am and what I believe and what I wanted to do with my life for the first time.
00:05:46.000 And so at various times, Benkey has been used by our company, the parent company that owns the Daily Wire, which is comprised of you and Caleb and I and our original investors.
00:05:57.000 We named that company Benkey during a renaming halfway, kind of halfway between the founding of the company and today.
00:06:04.000 And when it came time, at that time, we did it because people who haven't started businesses may not know.
00:06:08.000 It's really hard to find any word or two-word combination to use for your business that isn't already trademarked, that isn't already owned by someone.
00:06:16.000 And so after we'd gone through like 30 names one day, and we were completely exhausted, we were like, what's something that certainly no one would have used?
00:06:23.000 It's like, well, bent key.
00:06:24.000 It's not even a real thing.
00:06:25.000 So we used it.
00:06:26.000 But I think when this conversation about kids came up, We were originally calling our initiative, which we announced to the world a little over a year ago, DW Kids.
00:06:35.000 We made that announcement.
00:06:36.000 I think we should get to how we made that announcement.
00:06:39.000 It's one of the great stories of the history of our company.
00:06:42.000 But just to put a bow on the name, we made this announcement after Disney, sort of after Chris Rufo leaked some tapes from inside Disney talking about their not-so-secret gay agenda and trying to sneak queerness into their shows and radical racial politics into their shows and using quotas to make sure that Quote unquote, marginalized groups represented more than 50% of the onscreen talent and their kids programming.
00:07:05.000 We thought that demanded a response, and we started calling our response DW Kids or Daily Wire Kids.
00:07:11.000 But over time, that began to really sit poorly with me because of what our actual goal is.
00:07:16.000 Our, you know, Daily Wire is a very politically charged name, obviously, because the Daily Wire is a very political company, because you and I are very political.
00:07:25.000 The work that we do is very political.
00:07:28.000 And while the launching of our kids entertainment company is intrinsically a political act, what we're trying to do with that political act is create content for kids that isn't inherently political.
00:07:39.000 What we basically believe at Bintke is that, you know, In America, we have a two-part problem.
00:07:45.000 We've infantilized adults largely through our university system.
00:07:49.000 We refer to 23-year-old adults as college kids and hold them to no account, treat them as they have no agency, as though they have no personal responsibility.
00:07:58.000 And then on the other hand, we take actual kids, And we say, no, you're not allowed to have a childhood.
00:08:03.000 You're not allowed to live in a space of wonder and adventure and joy and imagination.
00:08:08.000 Instead, we're going to use you as political instruments, as political props, as a petri dish for our craziest social experiments that we've ever done as a society.
00:08:18.000 You and I and Caleb, The Daily Wire, we want to say no to both of those and say, no, adults should be treated as adults.
00:08:24.000 Kids should be treated as kids, and Behnke endeavors to give kids an environment to do just that.
00:08:28.000 It's not political content.
00:08:30.000 It's not educational content.
00:08:32.000 It's entertaining content.
00:08:34.000 It's beautiful content.
00:08:35.000 It's hilarious content.
00:08:37.000 It's heartfelt content.
00:08:38.000 It's the kind of content that you could trust your kids with, that your kids will love and enjoy, the kind of content you and I got to grow up with, the kind of content on which politics is formed later.
00:08:48.000 Right?
00:08:48.000 The kind of content that allows kids to form their personality, to form their character, to be exposed to values, to find themselves.
00:08:57.000 On that good foundation, good politics will be built.
00:09:01.000 On that good foundation of Ben Key, perhaps daily wire politics can be built in the future.
00:09:05.000 But Ben Key isn't about politics, and so that's why we needed a new name.
00:09:08.000 And I thought Ben Key was a fun name because it is mysterious, because it has this sense of whimsy, because it isn't, you know, we used a bunch of words, but words have meaning.
00:09:18.000 What if we called it Ember, or what if we called it, you know, any number of, but all of those come with some sort of meaning.
00:09:26.000 The beauty of BentKey is I think it gives us the opportunity to build something completely new.
00:09:30.000 You know, in success 10 years from now, BentKey won't mean the key that Jeremy wears around his neck.
00:09:35.000 BentKey will mean this body of work that has impacted millions of kids around the world, and that they hold dear, that's helped them in the same way my key helped me.
00:09:44.000 We'll get to more with my friend Jeremy in just one second.
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00:10:53.000 Obviously it's an amazing thing for parents, so one of the things as a parent of four that I've had to come up against, you obviously have a kid as well, and all of our hosts have kids.
00:11:01.000 One of the things that we all as parents have such a tough time with is finding entertainment for our kids, because obviously, you know, you need a five minute break, you put your kid in front of the TV.
00:11:09.000 The problem is if you put your kid in front of YouTube, then there's a very good shot that the algorithm is going to feed them something truly awful within five to ten minutes of you putting them in front of YouTube, which is usually how people now watch TV.
00:11:20.000 If you put them on Disney Plus, There's a very good shot that they're going to be fed a piece of content that runs directly counter to your values.
00:11:26.000 The beauty of BentKey from a parental point of view is that this is really a safe space for your kids.
00:11:31.000 You can put your kids in front of BentKey and they can spend hours, and no one should spend hours in front of a screen if they're a kid, but they should spend whatever time they're going to spend in front of a screen with people who actually share your values and who aren't going to seek to twist their minds in some particular political or cultural direction.
00:11:46.000 Well, that's exactly right.
00:11:47.000 Listen, there's a lot of amazing content in the world.
00:11:50.000 A lot of it was made by Disney.
00:11:51.000 A lot of it we grew up with.
00:11:53.000 It's not that there isn't wonderful content out there, safe content out there for kids.
00:11:56.000 It's that you can't really trust the platforms anymore that house that content.
00:12:00.000 You can put your kids in front of you.
00:12:03.000 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, but it might immediately then roll into Disney's new Snow White, which is an actual repudiation of the values, as declared by their own lead actress, Rachel Ziegler, of the values of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.
00:12:16.000 So what we endeavor to do is curate a body of work at Bent Key where none of the content betrays the values of our core audience, and I would say that the core audience for Bent Key isn't even the core audience for Daily Wire.
00:12:28.000 I think it's a much broader audience than that.
00:12:30.000 I think that there are plenty of Independent, moderate, and even light left-wing parents out there who don't want to see radical values, who don't want to see their kids exposed to radical values, Benkei can be a home for all of those kinds of people.
00:12:45.000 People who want, as you say, you shouldn't put your kid in front of the TV for hours, but for whatever length of time they're there, you can know that they're being exposed to good and beautiful content.
00:12:54.000 Now, Creating that content is a generational work.
00:12:58.000 We've launched with four original shows and a fifth that is original.
00:13:03.000 We didn't create it, but we're working with the creator and now we have it exclusively.
00:13:07.000 So really five shows that are unique BentKey offerings.
00:13:12.000 Those best represent our vision for BentKey.
00:13:15.000 Those are Kid Fit Go, Kid Explorer, Chip Chilla, Wonderful Day with Mabel McClay, and Gus Plus Us.
00:13:21.000 And I can say that I'm incredibly proud of those five shows.
00:13:24.000 I think it's an amazing start.
00:13:25.000 But we wanted to make sure that our offering was robust.
00:13:28.000 Want to make sure that parents got value for the money that they're going to spend.
00:13:31.000 So we also went around the world and curated existing content.
00:13:34.000 That we didn't think betrayed the values of our audience.
00:13:37.000 It may not be that every piece of that content perfectly encapsulates our values, or that it perfectly represents our long-term vision for the company, but it's highly entertaining, high quality, and safe content.
00:13:50.000 We've edited every single episode.
00:13:52.000 Some of the shows that we would license from around the world, maybe there were three episodes that we didn't agree with.
00:13:58.000 So we just threw those episodes out.
00:13:59.000 They're not on the platform.
00:14:01.000 Every single piece of content that a kid will be exposed to on Bent Key, at a minimum, will be neutral in terms of, you know, the sort of woke identity politics of the moment.
00:14:12.000 And in many cases, and especially in the cases with our original content, I think we'll be very values forward, very values positive.
00:14:18.000 So let's talk about how you actually build a children's entertainment company.
00:14:21.000 So this is a massive undertaking.
00:14:23.000 People, I think, when they see a product just roll off the shelf, any product, they don't see all the work that went into the product.
00:14:28.000 It just comes off of the price and the price is whatever it is per month.
00:14:30.000 And they think, OK, well, that sort of automatically existed.
00:14:33.000 I think take us behind the scenes as to how this happens, because we literally took The resources that we had as a political commentary company and news generating company, and we poured those into a completely different company with a completely different orientation requiring completely different sets of skills, which effectively meant building a giant second company with a massive investment.
00:14:53.000 Well, the first time we ever started talking about kids content, I remember I was in a hotel in Grand Rapids, Michigan, and I was on a phone call with you talking about the general entertainment content that we were about to really launch into in earnest.
00:15:06.000 And you said, you know, I think that this general entertainment play is a smart play, but the real play is kids content.
00:15:13.000 And we brainstormed about that on the call, as we often do with ideas back and forth.
00:15:17.000 And I remember ending that call thinking, if we were going to do such a thing, what we should do is hire Glenn Beck to be Mr. Rogers.
00:15:25.000 I mean, Glenn Beck.
00:15:27.000 is Mr. Rogers.
00:15:28.000 I know that people have a view of Glenn Beck that's, you know, their view of him is only through his talk radio show, probably.
00:15:34.000 It's only through his Blaze show they see him as this really political figure.
00:15:37.000 But behind the scenes, that's not who Glenn Beck is.
00:15:40.000 Glenn Beck is a giant kid at heart.
00:15:42.000 He collects these beautiful artifacts from American history.
00:15:45.000 He is in love with Walt Disney.
00:15:48.000 He owns, I think, the actual original business model that Walt took around to raise money to build Disneyland.
00:15:55.000 I mean, In many ways, I think this is what Glenn Beck was put on the earth to do.
00:16:00.000 And so I started dabbling with that idea.
00:16:01.000 Could we get Glenn Beck to come over and do kids content for us?
00:16:04.000 And, you know, obviously, Glenn and Tyler and the guys at The Blaze are good friends of ours, but they also are our competition.
00:16:10.000 And so it became clear pretty quickly that they probably wouldn't take their number one star and let us have half of his time to come work on our content.
00:16:18.000 And the idea of kids sort of got put on the back burner for a little bit.
00:16:21.000 We invested heavily at that time in starting our general entertainment company at shooting our first feature films.
00:16:28.000 We somehow detoured into a razor company and then into a chocolate company.
00:16:33.000 But over time, we kept coming back to this idea of kids entertainment, because it's probably where the biggest need is in the culture.
00:16:40.000 You know, as Andrew Breitbart always said, politics is downstream of the culture.
00:16:43.000 You and I sort of came of political age in West Coast conservatism, which was very focused on this idea of the importance of culture.
00:16:51.000 And kids entertainment is where the hole is.
00:16:53.000 And so a little over a year ago, those tapes from Chris Ruffo leaked of what was going on inside Disney.
00:17:00.000 And this will give people an amazing insight into how The Daily Wire works.
00:17:06.000 You sent me the story at 530 in the morning, my time, obviously, you're an hour ahead on the East Coast.
00:17:13.000 And you said, we should do something, we should launch into kids content.
00:17:17.000 I wrote you back and said, Ben, you always have big ideas.
00:17:22.000 You don't know how to run a business.
00:17:23.000 This is impossible.
00:17:24.000 What you're what you're suggesting could never possibly happen.
00:17:27.000 And you said, Okay, fine.
00:17:29.000 And then I laid back in bed to go back to sleep for another 40 minutes.
00:17:32.000 And as I sat there, I thought, Damn it.
00:17:37.000 He's right.
00:17:37.000 And so I laid there for, you started your show.
00:17:43.000 I waited until the earliest possible moment that I could reach out to Caleb Robinson, our other business partner.
00:17:47.000 And I said, Caleb, we've got to launch kids today.
00:17:52.000 And he said, what do you mean?
00:17:54.000 What do any of those words mean?
00:17:56.000 Launch kids and today?
00:17:58.000 I do not understand this language.
00:18:00.000 And I said, I think that we have to announce today.
00:18:04.000 While people are rightly outraged about what Disney, what's happening at Disney, by the way, Disney, the most important entertainment company in the history of the world, especially where kids are concerned.
00:18:17.000 I said, I think we have to announce that we're going to make an investment in kids and that we're going to spend, we're going to commit $10 million over the next three years.
00:18:25.000 And Caleb said, $10 million?
00:18:27.000 You're out of your mind.
00:18:27.000 He basically told me what I had told you.
00:18:29.000 You're out of your mind.
00:18:31.000 We don't have that kind of money laying around.
00:18:33.000 We have no idea how to do such a thing.
00:18:35.000 Let it go.
00:18:36.000 We'll get to more with Jeremy in just one second.
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00:19:38.000 I drive into work.
00:19:40.000 By now, our COO John Lewis is involved in the conversation, and we've decided that we're just going to do it.
00:19:45.000 We're going to announce this initiative.
00:19:46.000 We're going to change the direction of our company in a deeply profound way.
00:19:50.000 This isn't launching chocolates.
00:19:52.000 This isn't a side project.
00:19:53.000 This is a, as you said, a fundamental change, a fundamental reallocation of resources.
00:20:01.000 And so we decided we would host a live town hall that day and I would announce it to the world while announcing to our staff that the company that they thought that they belonged to was about to become a completely different company.
00:20:11.000 And I started trying to scratch out what I would say.
00:20:14.000 Well, I get to work.
00:20:16.000 And this is the problem in businesses.
00:20:17.000 When you have an idea, then it hits reality.
00:20:20.000 I get to work and standing outside my office are like all of our lawyers and all of our executives there to tell me why it's completely impossible to do what we've just declared.
00:20:29.000 Even our production staff saying, we can't host a town hall today that goes out live and has... So we start wrestling with all of this.
00:20:37.000 And the hours are ticking by as I'm trying to just fight the fight of, can we even say that we're going to do such a thing?
00:20:43.000 What are even the ramifications of saying that we're going to do such a thing?
00:20:46.000 And I'll never forget, at about noon, I walked back to where Caleb was and Caleb said, are we going to be able to pull this off?
00:20:53.000 And I said, I think we can do the town hall at two.
00:20:56.000 Or maybe it was for us.
00:20:57.000 I think we can actually pull off the town hall.
00:20:58.000 They're, they're going to start building a stage for me to stand on and taking down sets so that our employees have a place to listen to the town hall.
00:21:07.000 They'll all get together in one room.
00:21:09.000 I said, but I don't think we can say $10 million.
00:21:10.000 And he said, why not?
00:21:12.000 I said, well, it just occurs to me.
00:21:15.000 I know how much this stuff costs.
00:21:17.000 10 million sounded like a lot laying in my bed, but 10 million is like one show.
00:21:22.000 That's not launching a kid's entertainment company.
00:21:24.000 That's launching a TV show.
00:21:25.000 Like, what are we really doing here?
00:21:28.000 And he said, Well, how much do you want to say?
00:21:29.000 Because we don't even have the 10 million.
00:21:32.000 I said, Well, what I want to say is 100 million.
00:21:35.000 Caleb said, again, the whole cycle repeats.
00:21:37.000 You're out of your mind.
00:21:38.000 This is insane.
00:21:39.000 You know, and I said, Yeah, but here's the thing.
00:21:42.000 $100 million sounds impossible.
00:21:45.000 And it is.
00:21:47.000 And it's nothing.
00:21:49.000 Disney's content budget is a billion dollars a year.
00:21:52.000 Hollywood spends like 180 billion dollars a year on content.
00:21:57.000 So we to say that we're going to spend 10 million isn't we're not taking seriously the scope of the fight that we're claiming that we're going to jump off into at 10 million bucks.
00:22:06.000 We've got to really we're going to do this.
00:22:07.000 We have to do it.
00:22:08.000 Caleb said, where's the money going to come from?
00:22:11.000 And I said, when you wish upon a star, which is probably trademarked, and I can't say it on your show.
00:22:15.000 But basically what I said is, if we're going to do it, we have to do it.
00:22:18.000 And we have to just accept that it's going to change everything.
00:22:20.000 We have to accept that we don't know how we're going to do it.
00:22:22.000 We have to set ourselves up for the fight of our lives.
00:22:27.000 And now we get engaged in this big argument about that.
00:22:31.000 Another argument with all the attorneys.
00:22:32.000 Another argument with all the executives.
00:22:34.000 And then someone comes and knocks on my door and says, Jeremy, they need you in hair and makeup.
00:22:38.000 And I realized that I hadn't written a speech.
00:22:39.000 I didn't even know what I was going to say to the world.
00:22:42.000 So, I walked over, they're powdering my face as I walk up on the stage, and I went live and told the world what we were going to do, that The Daily Wire was going to launch into kids' entertainment with a $100 million commitment, that we were going to change the paradigm.
00:22:56.000 And that's when the work started.
00:22:59.000 To accomplish this has been so much harder than anything we've ever done before, so much harder than launching The Daily Wire.
00:23:08.000 You and I and Caleb have Have diluted our ownership in the company to raise money.
00:23:14.000 We literally made ourselves poorer.
00:23:16.000 If it fails, much poorer.
00:23:18.000 If it succeeds, maybe it was worth it.
00:23:19.000 It pays off and we do better.
00:23:22.000 But we poured our liquid resources into this, our actual cash that we had on hand.
00:23:27.000 We poured our ownership in the company.
00:23:28.000 We still control the company, but we own less of the upside in the company than ever before.
00:23:34.000 Because we believe so much that this is the most important thing we've ever endeavored to do.
00:23:38.000 And then we got busy hiring and we got busy writing and we got busy creating.
00:23:42.000 We got busy learning.
00:23:43.000 We got busy real, you know, making mistakes and quickly iterating and trying to do better and solve those problems.
00:23:50.000 We got busy licensing content from all around the world.
00:23:54.000 And if you look at our company today, it looks nothing like it looked 18 months ago.
00:23:58.000 We have a company that's completely oriented toward entertainment and in particular an emphasis on this kid's entertainment.
00:24:06.000 Because that's where the real fight is.
00:24:08.000 Because if all we do is criticize the culture, if all we do is talk about politics, if we don't get busy making culture, then there is no country to conserve.
00:24:17.000 There is no country for us to try to save.
00:24:20.000 So that's how we got here.
00:24:22.000 And that story is, as you said, incredibly indicative of how the company has always been run.
00:24:27.000 In the sense that we are incredibly fast in terms of our reactive power.
00:24:31.000 And that I think is our superpower in this particular space.
00:24:34.000 Not just in announcing kids, but in doing things down to deciding that we're going to create a Snow White film.
00:24:39.000 Like that was not on the slate six months ago.
00:24:41.000 That wasn't even on the slate like four months ago.
00:24:43.000 But then when Disney came out and basically started putting out all of this press about its Snow White movie that was coming out in spring of next year, all about how Snow White is actually an empowered single woman, and the typical themes of Snow White are hackneyed and old, we have to get rid of those, and the dwarves aren't actually dwarves anymore, now they're normal-sized people, and all the rest of this kind of stuff, we just decided, you know what?
00:25:04.000 The only way to fight that is by actually making our own version of Snow White starring Brad Cooper.
00:25:08.000 We made that announcement simultaneous with the launch of Enki.
00:25:11.000 It was another one day decision.
00:25:12.000 I'll never forget.
00:25:13.000 I wrapped a film for Daily Wire Plus on July 9th.
00:25:19.000 And on July 11th, I landed in Rome to produce our Pendragon Cycle, the biggest piece of work we've ever undertaken.
00:25:27.000 And when I walked off the plane, I got hit with all of the Rachel Ziegler comments about the new Snow White that, you know, I think that may have been the day that the pictures leaked of the reshoots and we saw that the dwarves weren't dwarves.
00:25:40.000 And all these clips started circulating of her saying, you know, it's not 1937 anymore.
00:25:46.000 This isn't about true love.
00:25:47.000 You know, I am not a fan of the original movie.
00:25:51.000 One thing she said is, they keep accusing us of making a PC Snow White, and that's right, because that's what this old story needed.
00:25:58.000 And I thought, well, no, that's the opposite of true, you know, the fairy tales.
00:26:05.000 Are unique because they, you know, some of them are a thousand years old.
00:26:08.000 I mean, they, they contain timeless truth.
00:26:10.000 What made them so powerful when Disney, Walt Disney chose to tell them, he said, here's these beautiful stories and they, and they have it all.
00:26:18.000 They contain everything.
00:26:19.000 He said of Snow White in particular, it is the perfect story.
00:26:23.000 So to hear this young actress now saying, not only is it not the perfect story, it's a bad story.
00:26:31.000 It's a story that needed our modern values to redeem it.
00:26:34.000 I thought, well, this is a complete betrayal of Walt Disney himself, of Walt Disney's personal vision for what his company would be.
00:26:42.000 And it's an enormous opportunity for us to show people how serious we are.
00:26:46.000 And it just so happens that we have the perfect Snow White already working for the company.
00:26:51.000 So yeah, another one day decision.
00:26:54.000 And The amount of chaos that that creates, the ripple effect of making a decision like that's amazing, but here we are.
00:27:01.000 We'll get to more with Jeremy in just a moment.
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00:28:17.000 So let's talk about some of the programming that is available in original to BentKey subscribers.
00:28:22.000 So as you mentioned, we have five original shows.
00:28:24.000 They are amazing looking.
00:28:25.000 I mean, the quality of the product, it's the proudest I've ever been of any product that we've ever released, aside from my own show, which I literally do every day.
00:28:31.000 But in terms of the actual quality and beauty of the product, I mean, it surpasses anything by far.
00:28:35.000 that we've ever done.
00:28:36.000 It truly is astonishing stuff.
00:28:38.000 Again, the amount of work that goes into this stuff behind the scenes is amazing.
00:28:42.000 I was there for a few days watching some of the filming of Mabel McLea.
00:28:46.000 It's amazing to watch this happen in real time.
00:28:48.000 The size of the crew that's required, the number of shots that are required,
00:28:51.000 all the back of the curtain stuff that's happening is amazing, but the shows are really tremendous.
00:28:57.000 So why don't you start with Mabel McLea, for example, and give us sort of the backstory
00:29:00.000 on how that show evolved.
00:29:02.000 Well, I will say I have a small handful of pieces of content
00:29:07.000 that The Daily Wire has produced.
00:29:08.000 But I'm so in, you know, I'm proud of all of our content, of course, we labor over all of it.
00:29:13.000 There's a very small group of shows that you have a real affinity for.
00:29:19.000 You know, the...
00:29:21.000 The Exodus seminar that you and Jordan Peterson and Dennis Prager and Miss Jordan show, but that so many of our friends and heavyweights were a part of.
00:29:29.000 And I feel like that's a piece of content that stands the test of time.
00:29:31.000 It's a, it's a transcendent piece of content.
00:29:34.000 We, we make a lot of wonderful content, but it's about the news of right now, of right now, of right now, of right now.
00:29:39.000 And you and I have talked a lot about what is a legacy in that environment.
00:29:43.000 You know, your, your show does enormous good in the world on a day to day basis.
00:29:48.000 But when you're gone.
00:29:50.000 And those new stories are gone.
00:29:51.000 What have we left?
00:29:53.000 And one of the things that you and I have been trying to do, and that we've kind of learned from watching some of our mentors in the space, Andrew and Rush Limbaugh and others, is we've just realized that we have to build legacy content.
00:30:03.000 We want to speak not just into this exact moment, but into the future.
00:30:07.000 And Mabel McClay, I think, is the thing I'm the most proud of, of anything we've ever made.
00:30:11.000 It is truly good.
00:30:14.000 And I don't mean just good in terms of the quality of the show.
00:30:18.000 I think the quality of the show is great.
00:30:20.000 I mean, it's good in an intrinsic sense.
00:30:23.000 It is filled with goodness.
00:30:25.000 It is filled with heart.
00:30:28.000 It transports you out of this moment in which we live, and it slows you down, and it makes you free to wonder.
00:30:36.000 That's me as an adult watching it.
00:30:38.000 As a kid, especially in this fast-paced world, I think Mabel McClay can be transformative.
00:30:45.000 I liken it unto, it's like it's one part Mr. Rogers neighborhood and one part Mary Poppins.
00:30:51.000 It has that sort of gentleness and quietness of a Mr. Rogers, and it has that whimsy and magic of a Mary Poppins.
00:31:01.000 It's warm and golden.
00:31:03.000 It isn't gray.
00:31:03.000 It isn't bright.
00:31:05.000 It's not like kids content, right?
00:31:08.000 But it's also not like drab modern content.
00:31:11.000 It's this, it's nostalgic, but it's today.
00:31:15.000 I couldn't, I couldn't be more proud of the show.
00:31:17.000 I, I think that, uh, it may be that when people look back at our legacy, a hundred, you know, 50 years from now, that's the thing that they talk about the most.
00:31:28.000 Maybe we make a hundred or 200 or 500 episodes of Mabel McClay and there'll be kids who say, yeah, my childhood was Mabel McClay.
00:31:36.000 She taught me what it was to have imagination.
00:31:38.000 She taught me what it was to have heart.
00:31:40.000 Based on that, I learned discernment.
00:31:42.000 Based on that, I learned my values.
00:31:45.000 It's a live-action show starring my dear friend of many years, Katie Chase, created by she and her husband, Ryan Chase, who ran a kids' improv school in Los Angeles.
00:31:55.000 They understand kids.
00:31:57.000 They love kids.
00:31:58.000 They love to teach kids and help kids on their journey.
00:32:03.000 I would say, in many ways, I feel they were put on the earth to make this show.
00:32:07.000 And whatever I expected from them, they delivered so far above it.
00:32:12.000 Other people on our staff who have no background in kids entertainment, or even in entertainment generally to speak of, stepped up.
00:32:19.000 We hired a professional crew.
00:32:21.000 Some of that crew didn't work out.
00:32:22.000 Some of our Daily Wire guys had to step in.
00:32:24.000 Mathis Glover, who's been with us, well, literally since day one, helped to direct the first few episodes, pushed himself to the absolute max.
00:32:33.000 Delivered in the in the biggest way we could have possibly hoped for.
00:32:37.000 Matt Barry, who's worked for the company in in many different roles over the years, who's a true creative, stepped in to be the the producing director.
00:32:47.000 Of the show, he'd never done anything like it before, but with a little help from me, a little help from Mathis, the help of a great crew, he found his way.
00:32:55.000 Ultimately, the help of John Price, our executive that we brought in to be over the show, really helped Matt to find his way.
00:33:02.000 And this is, again, this is what Matt was put on the earth to do.
00:33:05.000 He's going to do this, I believe, for the rest of his life.
00:33:09.000 And what they delivered, I think, again, I think kids will be talking about for the rest of their lives.
00:33:13.000 Then you have Chip Chilla, the first show we ever announced, an animated show about a family of homeschooling chinchillas who, uh, it's these wonderful parents who just invest immediately into the lives of their kids.
00:33:23.000 They sort of meet their kids where they are, and they're always looking for an opportunity to teach them, which makes it sound like it's an educational show.
00:33:29.000 It is not in any way an educational show.
00:33:32.000 One thing you and I talked about from the very beginning is this idea of cultural literacy, that the cartoons that I grew up with, From Looney Tunes, Merry Melodies, all the way to the kind of Saturday morning shows that were popular when I was a little kid.
00:33:47.000 They all contained sort of the American mythology within them.
00:33:53.000 They contained our literary history within them.
00:33:56.000 I first learned about Tom Sawyer convincing his friends to whitewash the fence, not from reading Mark Twain, but from watching Bugs Bunny.
00:34:05.000 That's how all art used to be until really this very modern moment in which we live where it's now where the American canon, the Western canon, is considered somehow evil.
00:34:16.000 We don't want to expose kids to it.
00:34:19.000 That's what happens in Chip Chilla.
00:34:21.000 It's not that it's an educational show where we do a book report at the end of it.
00:34:25.000 No, it's for kids who are too young to do book reports.
00:34:27.000 But it exposes them to these characters, George Washington, and exposes them to the idea of Moby Dick, not in a way that It's meant to help them when they get to school in a way that's meant to help them be well-rounded humans.
00:34:40.000 It's to help them recognize those stories when they encounter them later in life.
00:34:45.000 It's a zany show.
00:34:47.000 It's a fun show.
00:34:48.000 It stars our friend Rob Schneider and the work that he does as the father on the show is creative and hilarious and filled with heart.
00:35:00.000 We have two shows from a wonderful family down in Georgia called Kid Explorer and Kid Fit Go.
00:35:06.000 And these are live action shows hosted by kids for kids.
00:35:10.000 And they're funny, and they're practical.
00:35:15.000 You know, Kid Fit Go, for example, kids will learn how to do exercise by doing exercise with other kids.
00:35:22.000 Because part of being a well-rounded human is not just being exposed to good ideas, but to good discipline, to good habits.
00:35:28.000 And so that's an important part of what we're doing with the show.
00:35:30.000 And then we have Gus Plus Us, humans and puppets interacting with one another.
00:35:34.000 And it's filled with exploration.
00:35:37.000 It's filled with heart.
00:35:38.000 It's filled with joy.
00:35:40.000 Those are shows that I'm incredibly proud of.
00:35:43.000 And it's just the beginning.
00:35:44.000 It's taken us all the money that we've ever made and some of our ownership to get this far.
00:35:50.000 And it's a drop in the ocean.
00:35:52.000 We're going to keep pouring everything we've got into it and success.
00:35:55.000 And, you know, I think we would both like to look up at the end of our lives and see that this of all the things that we created, that this has the most legs, that this has the most staying power, because I think it can do the most good.
00:36:06.000 We'll get back to this with Jeremy in just one second.
00:36:08.000 First, as you know, we do things very differently here at The Daily Wire.
00:36:12.000 We host several of the top news podcasts in the world.
00:36:14.000 We launched a chocolate company overnight.
00:36:15.000 We just took Disney head-on by releasing 150 episodes of kids content.
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00:37:09.000 One of the things about the shows, and that we've tried to do with the broader entertainment project, and this is mainly because of you, is try to give people material that they actually want to watch, not that they think that they should want to watch.
00:37:19.000 And that's definitely true with the kids' content.
00:37:21.000 The first time my kids opened the app, they immediately, I mean, they can navigate the technology better than I can because, of course, I'm now the older generation, but they can navigate that technology, and they were pulling up the shows, watching them, enjoying them, laughing at them.
00:37:33.000 My three-year-old is already a Chip Chilla fan after just a couple of days.
00:37:37.000 And you can see the response in the marketplace.
00:37:39.000 I mean, the number of people who have been waiting and wanting and who have been emailing me and calling and just asking for a year since we announced this, when is this thing going to drop?
00:37:47.000 When are we finally going to be able to have a safe place to put our kids in front of the TV?
00:37:52.000 Those people, I think, are going to be really satisfied.
00:37:53.000 We've seen the early results.
00:37:55.000 Maybe you can talk a little bit about the response in the marketplace.
00:38:00.000 Someone said on Twitter, leave it to The Daily Wire to under-promise and over-deliver.
00:38:04.000 And obviously that's an enormous compliment, but I don't think it's quite true.
00:38:08.000 I think a more accurate representation of what we do at The Daily Wire is we over-promise and over-deliver.
00:38:15.000 The entire idea of this was so much more than we were capable of.
00:38:19.000 Launching a razor company was so much more than we were capable of.
00:38:22.000 Launching a chocolate company in a day, so much more than we were capable of.
00:38:25.000 And launching this, an order of magnitude beyond our capabilities.
00:38:30.000 And what we knew was the expectations for us are so low in people's minds.
00:38:38.000 We can either fulfill those low expectations, or we can transcend how people view us as a company.
00:38:43.000 We can fundamentally change how we're perceived.
00:38:45.000 And the first key to that is to make content that people want to see, not content that they want to want to see.
00:38:51.000 I don't want our legacy to be, yeah, my parents made me watch that stuff.
00:38:55.000 Yeah, I think some of it was good.
00:38:57.000 No, no, no.
00:38:58.000 I want kids to love this.
00:39:01.000 I want to make stuff that stands the test of time.
00:39:04.000 We're telling timeless truths.
00:39:06.000 We should tell timeless truths and timeless content.
00:39:09.000 And obviously, we're just getting started with that.
00:39:12.000 I think we launched at an enormous level of quality.
00:39:15.000 And I think that in success 10 years from now, we'll be far, far better than we are today.
00:39:19.000 Obviously, we need to incorporate more music into what we're doing and enhance the visuals.
00:39:24.000 Disney's at the cutting edge.
00:39:25.000 Every time Pixar releases A film is the next newest thing.
00:39:29.000 Those films cost $300 million to make one film.
00:39:32.000 So we have a long way to go.
00:39:33.000 I'm incredibly proud of the work that we're doing.
00:39:35.000 And I also have a three year old daughter.
00:39:37.000 And I didn't test this content on her, in part because she's very young.
00:39:41.000 I don't let her watch a lot of content.
00:39:43.000 But last yesterday, I was doing an interview with Dr. Peterson and my phone buzzed and I looked over and it was A message from my wife saying, your daughter just came to me and said, Mommy, I want to sit on the potty and watch Chip Chilla.
00:39:59.000 It really kind of choked me up.
00:40:00.000 What an amazing moment that we've made something now that our own kids actually love on its own merits.
00:40:07.000 My daughter doesn't understand that that's my show.
00:40:09.000 She wouldn't even know what that meant.
00:40:11.000 And here she is loving this show because we made a lovable show.
00:40:16.000 Well, it's the number one kids app on the App Store right now.
00:40:20.000 It is rising very quickly into the top echelon of the entertainment side of the App Store as well, and we are only getting started.
00:40:28.000 So, Jeremy, it's an amazing accomplishment.
00:40:32.000 I'm super happy that we get to bring this now to all the people who've been waiting for it.
00:40:36.000 Obviously, everybody within the sound of my voice.
00:40:38.000 If you're a parent, you should definitely download this, and you should make sure that it's available to your kids.
00:40:41.000 If you're a DailyWire annual subscriber, you're already a subscriber to BentKey, so it's no additional charge for you.
00:40:46.000 You get both in one.
00:40:48.000 DailyWire is for you, and BentKey is for your kids, and you should enjoy both of them.
00:40:52.000 Jeremy, I want to shift topics here, and that's going to require a background change.
00:40:57.000 OK, so we've now shifted background, which means that we're going to go from the happy to just the horror show that is Daily Politics.
00:41:04.000 Obviously, Jeremy, we haven't had that much chance to talk because you've been in Europe traveling around and shooting the various movies and shows that we've been doing.
00:41:11.000 But in the meantime, the world is now on fire.
00:41:14.000 It is on fire pretty much across the board.
00:41:16.000 I want to get your first thoughts.
00:41:19.000 With regard to the massacre of Jews that happened in the Gaza, the so-called Gaza envelope, those are the areas around the Gaza Strip, the murder of some 1,400 Jews, and then Israel having to use its military power to try and strike Hamas targets.
00:41:32.000 Why don't we start with the massacre?
00:41:33.000 I'm going to try and break this down into pieces because it's such a big topic.
00:41:35.000 So we'll try to do this kind of in timeline fashion.
00:41:38.000 So first your reaction to the massacre itself and what the West missed that allowed this sort of thing to happen.
00:41:44.000 Well, obviously, it's one of the most devastating days in my lifetime.
00:41:48.000 You know, tragedies happen in the world all the time.
00:41:51.000 And some cynics on Twitter are angry because we're all talking about this and there's other and even bigger atrocities that happen that don't get any screen time that we never comment on.
00:42:02.000 But when something hits close to home, obviously, it resonates more deeply.
00:42:06.000 Obviously, you are more aware of it.
00:42:08.000 Obviously, you see it.