Republicans and Democrats battle it out over the future of the Robert Mueller special counsel probe, as Chuck Schumer searches for a strategy on illegal immigration, and we discuss the power of repentance. Also, illegal immigrants are trying to shut down Disneyland, and I don t know why they would do that, but I guess it's a good thing they don't have tickets to Disneyland, because that's a weird place to protest, because it's the happiest place on Earth, right? Also, I'm confused why illegal immigrants would try to block off Disneyland, since it has a wall around it and you need tickets to enter, and you are thrown out if you illegally trespass, but we will get to all of those things in this episode of The Ben Shapiro Show, where we discuss that, as well as the latest on the Mueller investigation, and why you should call your lawyer if you get caught in the crosshairs of the Mueller probe, because you don't know where to go to get a lawyer, and what to do if you do get caught by the FBI without one. What would you do without a lawyer? And what would you tell the FBI to do, and how would you handle the situation if you find yourself in a situation where the FBI asks you to talk to the FBI about something you're not sure where you should talk to them about it? and you don t have a lawyer with no idea where to get one? What do you do to avoid getting a lawyer to help you out of a situation like that situation? And why you need a lawyer in the FBI should do that? Well, that's what you should do, right there! Ben Shapiro is a lawyer. Subscribe to Ben Shapiro's new show on the Ben Shapiro show? Subscribe to his new show, The Weekly with Ben Shapiro? Subscribe on Apple Podcasts Subscribe on iTunes Learn more about your ad choices and become a supporter of the show on that and other links to our new show recommendations, and much more! Subscribe and subscribe to his podcast on the show? Learn more at Ben Shapiro s new podcast, The Six Degrees of Liberalism: The Sixteenth Housewife on the Sixteenth Street Podcasts on the Fourteenth episode of Six Figures Podcast Six Figures, the Six Figures of the New York Times, The FiveThirtyEight, The Independent Journalist, on Sixteenth Avenue, on Podchaser, on the FiveThirtyFive, and The Six Figures Project.
00:00:00.000Republicans and Democrats battle it out over the future of the Robert Mueller special counsel probe, Chuck Schumer searches for a strategy on illegal immigration, and we discuss the power of repentance.
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00:02:20.000All right, so I want to bring you the latest on the Mueller investigation, so...
00:02:24.000There's a lot going on in the Mueller investigation, but very little of it has to do with Trump-Russia collusion.
00:02:29.000Now, we were promised that Trump-Russia collusion was what this entire thing was about.
00:02:33.000It appears more and more, day by day, that this investigation has nothing to do with Trump-Russia collusion.
00:02:38.000It has everything to do with obstruction of justice.
00:02:40.000That's what it looks like it is moving toward.
00:02:42.000So on Wednesday, there are a bevy of new stories about the Mueller investigation.
00:02:46.000And apparently the special counsel is now trying to get Trump himself in for an interview.
00:02:50.000Trump would be a fool to do the interview, because the minute that Trump interviews with the guy, it's a perjury trap.
00:02:55.000Every time you talk with the federal government, first rule, okay, just as a lawyer, and this is true, right, left, center.
00:03:00.000Everybody, if the police ever ask to talk to you, the answer is, wait, let me call my lawyer.
00:03:06.000If you want to be safe, your answer is, wait, let me call my lawyer.
00:03:09.000Not because you distrust the police or you think they're going to do something wrong, but because you're going to get caught in traps where you don't know exactly how to navigate these waters, right?
00:03:17.000The first word of any defense counsel when you walk into that room is, don't talk here without a lawyer.
00:03:22.000And that would certainly be true for Mike Flynn.
00:03:23.000Mike Flynn talked to the FBI without a lawyer, and now he finds himself facing five years in federal prison.
00:03:29.000Do not talk to the FBI without a lawyer.
00:03:30.000This is certainly true of Trump, who has a tendency to babble on at the mouth.
00:03:35.000Well, this interview would presumably be focused on Trump's firing of former FBI Director James Comey, his alleged request to Comey to let now-indicted former National Security Advisor Flynn go, and his pressure on various officials ranging from Attorney General Jeff Sessions to Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe with regard to the Trump-Russia collusion investigation.
00:03:51.000So according to the Washington Post, Robert Mueller wants to investigate Trump especially about the firings of Flynn and Comey.
00:03:59.000So here's the pattern of behavior to go back in time.
00:04:16.000According to Comey, Trump asked him for a loyalty oath back in January.
00:04:19.000Then in February, Trump fired Flynn because back in December, Flynn had called up the Russian government and asked them to vote a certain way on a resolution at the UN, and then he lied about the FBI to it, so Trump fires Flynn.
00:04:29.000Immediately thereafter, Comey says that Trump asked Comey to let Flynn go.
00:04:33.000Trump didn't help his case when he tweeted out that he had to let Flynn go because Flynn lied to the FBI.
00:04:37.000That makes it sound like Trump was trying to manipulate Comey into allowing Flynn to get off on federal charges, which could be seen as him trying to move the investigation in one direction or another.
00:04:47.000Then in May, of course, Trump fires Comey and then says on national TV that he did it because of the Russia investigation.
00:04:54.000And then in May, Trump asked Andrew McCabe, the deputy FBI director, how he voted in the last election cycle when he was taking over as interim director.
00:05:01.000Throughout this period, Trump was harassing Attorney General Jeff Sessions on Twitter, presumably for accusing himself from the Russia investigation.
00:05:08.000So what exactly is Mueller doing with all of this?
00:05:10.000Supposedly this is all about him obstructing justice, Trump obstructing justice, getting in the way of justice.
00:05:16.000And Democrats have been saying this for months, that this is the direction they thought the investigation was moving.
00:05:20.000Now note, this investigation began with the accusation that the Trump campaign worked with the Russians in order to win the election and to stop Hillary Clinton from becoming president.
00:05:29.000Now what we're talking about has nothing to do with any of this.
00:05:33.000So when you talk about an investigation that has broadened out and moved sideways, just like every special counsel investigation ever, this is what has happened here, and that is Robert Mueller's fault.
00:05:42.000When your job is to find crime, you find crime, even if that crime has to be manipulated on the back of other crimes, meaning that Flynn probably didn't do anything wrong when he called up the Russian government, but he lied to the FBI.
00:05:51.000So he's caught in sort of a perjury trap, as I suggested before, and then Trump is now going to be caught in an obstruction trap because he said something to Comey about it.
00:05:59.000At least that is what it looks like is happening here.
00:06:01.000Diane Feinstein, the senator from California, she's been suggesting this for months.
00:06:36.000Code 1503, that is called the Omnibus Clause of obstruction of justice.
00:06:41.000It covers, quote, corruptly or by any threatening letter or communication, influencing or impeding or endeavoring to influence, obstruct or impede, the due administration of justice.
00:06:49.000But the clause requires a pending judicial proceeding that was supposedly obstructed.
00:06:53.000There is no pending judicial proceeding that has been found here as of yet.
00:07:07.000He fired James Comey, but that didn't stop the investigation.
00:07:10.000Whatever he said to Comey about investigating Flynn didn't stop Comey from investigating Flynn, as Comey freely admitted in front of Congress.
00:07:19.000First of all, it's not clear that an FBI investigation is actually an official proceeding, but also you have to prove intent under this crime.
00:07:30.000You have to prove that there was an intent to obstruct justice and a substantial step toward the accomplishment of that goal.
00:08:15.000There's no evidence that Trump has destroyed evidence.
00:08:16.000So, what exactly is Robert Mueller doing at this point?
00:08:20.000It looks like he's setting the groundwork for what would be an impeachment hunt by Democrats after the 2018 House elections if they win back control of the House.
00:08:27.000All over non-illegal obstruction of an investigation that found no underlying crime other than lying to the FBI, which is a crime, but it was not the crime that we were promised.
00:08:35.000Now Trump is going to be tempted to pardon everybody who lied to the FBI.
00:08:40.000Democrats will say this is all impeachable because people lied to the FBI and then Trump, quote-unquote, obstructed justice, even if he didn't legally do so.
00:08:46.000So you could get a nasty, knock-down, drag-out fight over an issue completely unrelated to Trump-Russia collusion.
00:08:53.000That's the direction that this investigation is moving.
00:08:55.000And it's no wonder that people in Republican places of power are finding this difficult to deal with.
00:09:04.000Because this is not what was suggested.
00:09:07.000This is not what the investigation was originally about.
00:09:09.000Democrats said Hillary Clinton's election was stolen.
00:09:11.000Donald Trump stole the election with Vladimir Putin's help.
00:09:13.000That obviously is not what has happened here and no evidence has been provided that suggests that this is what has happened here.
00:09:19.000Now, Democrats aren't letting the Russia stuff go, obviously, because they can't.
00:09:23.000They've told their base that Russia, Russia, Russia, Russia is behind everything.
00:09:26.000Like, just today, Dianne Feinstein and Adam Schiff, both Democrats from California, pushed Facebook and Twitter to investigate the Release the Memo social media campaign.
00:09:35.000That campaign, as you recall, we've talked about it for the last week, that is a campaign to release Devin Nunes' House Intelligence memo that apparently compiles a bunch of failures of FISA,
00:09:44.000Including, presumably, that FISA based its original investigation, its original warrant, on Carter Page, a Trump foreign policy advisor, on bad intel, right?
00:09:53.000On bad intel provided by a Democratic oppo firm.
00:09:56.000So now, Feinstein and Schiff are pushing Facebook and Twitter, suggesting that perhaps Russian bots are manipulating the hashtag release the memo.
00:10:03.000The whole goal here, by the way, is to push Facebook and Twitter so they shut down conservative news and information.
00:10:08.000That's what the Democrats want to do here.
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00:12:06.000With all of this said about the Mueller investigation, there is another controversy that has arisen.
00:12:11.000And that, of course, is whether the Mueller investigation should be done away with completely.
00:12:15.000Now, the Republican case that the Mueller investigation should be done away with completely is not that the Mueller investigation has found nothing on Trump-Russia so far.
00:12:25.000And it's a little bit of a jump from saying that the investigation was initially compromised to suggesting that the entire investigation will find nothing.
00:12:37.000I don't have the underlying facts, and so I'm trying to separate my own opinion from the facts.
00:12:41.000So we'll have to wait to find out whether the Mueller investigation actually finds something.
00:12:44.000If all they find is Flynn and obstruction of justice, I think everyone is going to be disappointed, and should be, at least in terms of what they were promised.
00:12:57.000Either the FBI was corrupted by Democrats or it is not corrupt and the Republicans are corrupting the FBI and targeting the FBI to defend Trump.
00:13:07.000Neither of these is good for the country.
00:13:08.000If it turns out that Democrats compromise the FBI in an attempt to stop President Trump from becoming president, and then continue to use the FBI in an attempt to curb Trump's presidency, then that is corruption at the highest levels.
00:13:18.000That is the destruction of one of the great American institutions.
00:13:21.000It is the destruction of a law enforcement agency that requires the trust of the American people.
00:13:26.000It's just along the lines of the Obama administration compromising the IRS and using it as a political baton.
00:13:33.000Republicans are right, and the FBI has been significantly compromised by Democrats, and there is a quote-unquote deep state problem going on.
00:13:41.000Then there's theory number two, right?
00:13:43.000Theory number two is that the Democrats did not actually compromise the FBI.
00:13:47.000The FBI may have some problematic figures like Peter Strzok and Lisa Page in it,
00:13:51.000But that does not mean the FBI is actually compromised.
00:13:54.000The investigation is moving as most investigations do.
00:13:56.000There's not serious Democratic infiltration of the FBI.
00:13:59.000It's just working as a law enforcement agency does.
00:14:02.000In which case, Republicans are targeting a law enforcement agency for destruction in order to defend President Trump, which is a really, really bad look.
00:14:10.000Okay, here is the basis for all of this.
00:14:12.000So, in the last few weeks, here are the revelations regarding alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, and most of all, regarding the FBI's investigation of it.
00:14:21.000Okay, text messages between FBI agents Peter Strzok and his mistress Lisa Page talked openly about a quote-unquote path you threw out for consideration in Deputy Director Andrew McCabe's office as a quote, insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you're 40, with reference to a Trump election.
00:14:35.000I mean, here's how it reads, anyway, just to allayment.
00:14:39.000What it reads like is, we have an insurance policy against Trump being elected, and that is this investigation into Trump.
00:14:46.000Strzok worked heavily on the Hillary investigation.
00:14:55.000Representatives Trey Gowdy and John Ratcliffe, they said that there are text messages between Strzok and Page that referenced a quote-unquote secret society working against Trump.
00:15:05.000And now, Senator Ron Johnson, who had echoed those comments, he said that his secret society comments were based on an informant and the words used in the Strzok-Page text exchange.
00:15:13.000He says he does not know exactly what they meant.
00:15:15.000So everybody is taking that super seriously and suggesting that the secret society is some sort of
00:15:20.000You know, Bilderberg conspiracy to take down Trump inside the FBI.
00:15:24.000Ron Johnson is saying that he doesn't really know what that means, so we gotta take all that with a grain of salt.
00:15:28.000More nefarious is that the FBI somehow lost a batch of text messages between Strzok and Page.
00:15:32.000They turned over about 50,000 Strzok-Page text messages, but the period in which they do not have messages from Strzok to Page and vice versa is December 2016 to May 2017, which is during this entire compromising period.
00:15:44.000It's during the bulk of the investigation into Flynn, the firing of Comey, the supposed quasi-threat to Andrew McCabe.
00:15:52.000Okay, and apparently the text messages stopped going missing, conveniently enough, the day that Robert Mueller took over the probe.
00:15:58.000Which suggests that maybe they were texting about James Comey, and then they got rid of all of those texts.
00:16:01.000All those texts were deleted, or the FBI got rid of all of them as soon as Mueller took over because it made the investigation look bad.
00:16:08.000Okay, the FBI did change its language regarding Hillary Clinton before Hillary was even interviewed.
00:16:11.000And, of course, the news that the Democrats hate is this House Intelligence Committee Chairman Nunes four-page memo that purportedly blew the lid off the FISA malfeasance in the Trump-Russia collusion case, presumably suggesting that the original FISA warrants against Carter Page was garnered based on a bad dossier compiled by Fusion GPS at the behalf of Democrats and in collusion with the Obama administration, the DOJ, and the FBI.
00:16:34.000Okay, so that's all of the information.
00:17:17.000Sarah Huckabee Sanders says that Trump is deeply concerned that the FBI agents are biased against him and that the FBI has been deeply corrupted and compromised.
00:17:25.000Why does he think this is one of the biggest stories in a long time?
00:17:29.000I think he thinks that there's a great cause for concern.
00:17:33.000That five months worth of text messages have gone missing, particularly given the individual
00:17:40.000Part of that process has already been shown to be extremely biased against the president and was involved in what seems to be some very inappropriate behavior.
00:17:50.000And that certainly is a great concern.
00:17:52.000You guys are absolutely obsessed with everything to do with collusion, if it has anything to do with the president.
00:17:59.000We hope that you'll take some of that same obsession, energy, and fervor and direct it to some of the places where it looks like there could have been some
00:18:10.000Okay, so obviously the Trump administration thinks that the FBI is going after them.
00:18:16.000Ron Johnson, as I mentioned, the senator from Wisconsin, he's suggesting the same thing.
00:18:23.000So when the DOJ sent you this letter saying that there was this glitch that prevented those five months of text from being released to you, did you buy it?
00:20:24.000Okay, Rush goes on here to basically suggest that maybe the Iraq War intel was compromised in order to get Bush, which doesn't make any sense along the timeline.
00:20:38.000The Iraq War wasn't launched until 2003.
00:20:42.000Beyond that, the Iraq War never would have gone forward if it had not been for 9-11.
00:20:45.000Ann Coulter has been targeting the FBI as well, suggesting the FBI was always corrupt.
00:20:50.000What's weird is that she's conflating corrupt and incompetent.
00:20:52.000The FBI has certainly made mistakes, no question about it.
00:20:55.000She suggests that the FBI is responsible for 9-11 to a certain extent, which I think is dubious in the extreme.
00:21:01.000But this is the danger that Republicans run into.
00:21:05.000You can question corruption at the FBI without even questioning the corruption of the entire institution.
00:21:09.000You can say there were bad apples at the FBI who corrupted this investigation, fruit of the poisonous tree doctrine, the entire investigation is corrupt.
00:21:15.000But instead, Republicans are falling into this trap of now targeting the entire FBI, which of course is not good for the country.
00:21:20.000And it's especially not good for the country if the Republican Party is corruptly targeting the FBI because there is something there and they're just defending Trump no matter what.
00:21:27.000I don't know enough to answer this question.
00:21:29.000You don't know enough to answer this question.
00:21:31.000The only way this question gets answered is once we know exactly what Mueller knows, know what was in that FISA warrant, which by the way, Trump can declassify at any time that FISA warrant on Carter Page.
00:21:40.000I want to know what's in that warrant, don't you?
00:21:56.000I think the third answer actually would be that there are members of the FBI who were corrupt like Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, but not the entire FBI, and that doesn't necessarily compromise the entire investigation.
00:22:04.000Or if it does compromise the entire investigation, that's not an indictment of the entire FBI.
00:22:09.000That would be, I think, the reasonable third position.
00:22:11.000But those are not the positions people are taking.
00:22:12.000Democrats are saying the FBI is spotless, and therefore Trump was engaged in obstruction of justice in attempting to get the FBI.
00:22:18.000Republicans are saying the FBI is deeply corrupt and was corrupted by the Obama administration, and therefore ending the Mueller investigation is necessary.
00:22:24.000I don't think actually either of those two positions are correct, and I think both of them lack significant evidence.
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00:22:33.000And what's coming next on the DACA negotiations.
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00:24:01.000Well, all of this unfolds on the Mueller investigation.
00:24:03.000Basically, the temptation for Trump here is going to be fire Mueller, pardon everyone, end this thing as soon as it's possible.
00:24:10.000I think that would be a big mistake at this point.
00:24:12.000Believe me, if it turns out that there's nothing to the Mueller investigation, if it turns out that this is really, I think, flimsy stuff, then people will be out there
00:24:23.000I've been trying to take as much as I can a factually based look at what's happening here and try and base my opinion on those facts.
00:24:30.000I'm going to wait for more facts to decide whether or not this investigation is just deeply corrupt.
00:24:34.000I will say that it looks like there are problems inside the FBI.
00:24:38.000I don't know if those problems go to the entire FBI.
00:24:40.000I don't know if they discredit the entire investigation.
00:24:42.000I'll also say that, you know, the pattern of obstruction that Mueller is trying to find in Trump can be explained one of two ways.
00:24:48.000Either Trump is trying to obstruct justice in order to defend his friends and hide from something nefarious, or Trump is dolt, is a dolt, and he just says stuff because he feels it.
00:24:57.000Like, I like Flynn, call me, could you leave him alone?
00:25:00.000Or Flynn's, or Comey's annoying me because he won't just say I'm innocent, I know I'm innocent, he's fired.
00:25:06.000Honestly, what makes all of these scandals seem to go away a little bit, anyway, is if you suggest that they are mostly based on stupidity rather than malice.
00:25:14.000When it comes to government, that's almost always a good bet.
00:25:17.000It's not just true of Trump, it's true of pretty much everyone.
00:25:19.000Stupidity rather than malice usually rules the day.
00:25:23.000Like Adam Schiff and Dianne Feinstein suggesting that Russian bots are behind Release the Memo, that's malice to me because Feinstein and Schiff are both smart people and they know better than this.
00:25:32.000All of this mostly looks like an insane amount of stupidity piled on top of stupidity rather than malice in a get-Trump effort, but my mind is willing to be persuaded on any of these scores.
00:25:50.000But they are receiving some protests, which is quite entertaining.
00:25:55.000Apparently, there were a bunch of DACA recipients, DREAMers, who actually went outside Chuck Schumer's house and were protesting outside Chuck Schumer's house yesterday.
00:26:03.000That wasn't the only place that they were protesting, by the way.
00:26:06.000They apparently blocked an entrance to Disneyland on Monday.
00:26:19.000But according to the LA Times, the next day, Monday, DACA recipients stood in a crosswalk at South Harbor Boulevard around 10 a.m.
00:26:25.000and blocked buses from entering the Anaheim theme park.
00:26:27.000Fifteen protesters were quickly removed by law enforcement officers and were relocated to a sidewalk where they held signs and chanted, no dream, no deal.
00:26:35.000So there's about 20 people and Disneyland operated completely normally.
00:26:39.000I do have a question, as I say, as a regular Disneyland patron and, yes, season ticket holder.
00:26:47.000What in the hell does the happiest place on earth have to do with people illegally in the country retaining their ability to stay in the country?
00:26:54.000It ought to be noted that Disneyland has a pretty strict immigration policy.
00:26:59.000And they have a wall, a giant fence around the entire park.
00:27:02.000And if you try to climb the wall, they will call the police on you.
00:27:05.000So Disneyland, unless they were protesting for free entry to Disneyland, which is something I might be able to get behind on occasion, I don't know why they would do this.
00:27:12.000But it just demonstrates that demonstrators themselves just do things without really any thought, simply to get the press.
00:27:19.000Meanwhile, Chuck Schumer is idiotically trying to blackmail Republicans.
00:27:22.000I don't think any of this is going anywhere, as I suggested yesterday.
00:27:24.000I don't think a DACA deal is imminent.
00:27:26.000I don't think that Mitch McConnell is going to push one.
00:27:28.000I don't think Trump is going to sign one.
00:27:29.000I think, in all likelihood, we hit the March 5th deadline for reinstating deportations, and Trump just says,
00:27:36.000We're not going to give you papers, but we're also not going to deport most of the DREAMers.
00:27:39.000And they go back to sort of this in-the-shadows, in-between status.
00:27:42.000I got some emails yesterday, and they're quite correct, suggesting this is bad for the DREAMers because with their current sort of green card status, they can get jobs.
00:27:49.000Trump would prevent them from getting jobs.
00:27:51.000The truth is that illegal immigrants in this country have been working for a very long time, which is how they've been able to stay in the country.
00:27:57.000And yes, it will revoke certain legal status in terms of work, but it won't actually deport them.
00:28:03.000Anyway, Chuck Schumer is trying to blackmail McConnell saying, you have 16 days, or I'm gonna get really mad.
00:28:09.000Like, he's saying that he's not gonna shut down the government again, or at least he's implied that, so I'm not sure what the stick is.
00:28:15.000I understand that the carrot is the docket deal, I just don't know what the stick is.
00:28:38.000Okay, so I don't know what clock is ticking.
00:28:42.000Like, on February 8th, are they going to shut down the government again?
00:28:43.000I mean, Schumer just gave away all his leverage.
00:28:45.000He also said yesterday that it was pretty obvious the Democrats weren't going to be willing to shut down the government for the Dreamers.
00:28:50.000I mean, he said this literally yesterday.
00:28:52.000Now, for two days, the government was shut down.
00:28:55.000But all of us in the Democratic caucus, not just the moderates, but the liberals as well, came to the view that if we carried it on much longer, two things would happen.
00:29:29.000The reality is Schumer doesn't want a deal because he wants to be able to claim Republicans stopped a deal.
00:29:33.000Republicans do want a deal, but not on the terms Democrats are offering.
00:29:37.000And the Democrats are basically offering nothing now.
00:29:39.000I mean, Schumer yesterday decided that he was going to withdraw his pittance of an offer, $1.6 billion in border security in return for legal status for the Dreamers and their parents.
00:29:47.000And Trump said no, and then Schumer withdrew the offer after Trump said no.
00:29:53.000What is hilarious I mentioned is the Dreamers showing up at Chuck Schumer's house.
00:29:56.000Here are some of the Dreamers protesting outside Schumer's house.
00:29:59.000If Trump won't let us dream, we won't let him sleep.
00:30:02.000If Trump won't let us dream, we won't let him sleep.
00:30:05.000If Trump won't let us dream, we won't let him sleep.
00:30:12.000Okay, it says if Chuck won't let us dream, then we won't let him sleep.
00:30:17.000Note to these people, Chuck Schumer was not sleeping in his house last night.
00:30:20.000He was in Washington, D.C., so very bright stuff.
00:30:22.000Again, the Democrats are offering nothing.
00:30:24.000Blumenthal, Senator Blumenthal from Connecticut, Richard Blumenthal, he said that Democrats would support increased border security but no wall, so obviously this negotiation is going nowhere.
00:31:20.000Apparently, there's a new California policy that begins on April 2nd that automatically registers people who obtain or renew driver's licenses to vote.
00:31:39.000In the state of California, illegal immigrants have driver's licenses.
00:31:41.000So you can renew, you can actually register to vote in the state of California as an illegal immigrant right now.
00:31:47.000So, the idea that they're trying to crack down on illegal immigrants is silly.
00:31:50.000By the way, there are certain principalities, I believe, in California where they're openly saying, maybe we should allow illegal immigrants to vote.
00:31:55.000We'll just give them de facto citizenship and allow them to vote.
00:32:14.000Is it worthwhile to forgive President Trump for his sins, for his trespasses?
00:32:19.000Because it seems like some evangelicals are willing to do just that, and I'll discuss whether that's appropriate or not.
00:32:24.000But first, you're going to have to go over and subscribe.
00:32:26.000So, first of all, before we get to that, I just want to say that on January 30th, you need to be watching, because our president is going to be speaking to the nation in the first State of the Union address, right?
00:32:34.000It's going to be a really exciting event, and you should watch it with us here at The Daily Web.
00:32:41.000We're going to be hanging out with you the entire time, leading up to
00:32:44.000During, after the address, we will be there for every wild hand gesture, for every crazy statement, for every Democrat refusing to stand for particular heroes.
00:32:52.000We will be there for all of it, right?
00:32:54.000And you can catch the live streams at Daily Wire, Daily Wire Facebook, or Daily Wire YouTube to spend the evening with me, with Andrew Klavan, with Michael Moles, and with Daily Wire god, King Jeremy Boring.
00:33:03.000And a bunch of special guests who are going to be dropping by.
00:33:05.000People that you know and love and who may or may not have mugs.
00:33:07.000We're going to be having all of them in to relentlessly mock our government and our political leaders.
00:33:12.000It'll basically be like MS3TK Mystery Science Theater.
00:33:16.000It'll be like that, except with politics.
00:33:18.000If you watched our election night broadcast, it was a lot of fun.
00:33:21.000This should be even more fun because there isn't the pressure of worrying about Hillary Clinton becoming president and or Donald Trump becoming president.
00:33:28.000So that's next Tuesday, January 30th, 8 p.m.
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00:35:25.000Alrighty, so I want to give you the update from University of Connecticut.
00:35:28.000So I am supposed to speak at University of Connecticut tonight.
00:35:30.000Originally, this event was open to the public.
00:35:32.000As always, as usual, the left made enough trouble that now they're staffing up with police officers and they have barred the general public from attending the speech, which is just inane.
00:35:41.000Apparently, we're only in a room that fits about 250 people.
00:35:44.000There have been over 500 student reservations at a minimum.
00:35:48.000If they'd opened it up to the public, there probably would've been another 1,000.
00:35:51.000But as it is, it is restricted to students alone.
00:35:54.000Oddly enough, when Anita Hill spoke here just about a month and a half ago, there was no security presence necessary, essentially, and everyone from the general public was allowed to attend.
00:36:03.000This is the new way of preventing the message from getting out, is by preventing the public from coming and listening.
00:36:07.000Now, I'm not going to put that all on UConn.
00:36:09.000I don't think it's the administration that is making this issue happen.
00:36:14.000Except to the extent that they are allowing the heckler's veto to prevent the public from hearing what we do.
00:36:19.000So that is happening tonight at 7 p.m.
00:36:23.000The Antifa group there is upset with me.
00:36:26.000Apparently they had encouraged people to show up and directly confront Lucy and Winfrich, but instead of protesting me directly, they say that they are going to set up a parallel event with some guy that I've really never heard of, who's kind of an obscure gadfly who, as far as I can tell, his only prominence in life has come from writing a piece about me for an
00:36:46.000For a magazine that he self funds or funds on charitable contributions and that nobody has ever read except for this one article about me He's speaking at the same time.
00:36:54.000So I will say I am very excited that I have generated an entire bendistry I'm very excited that I have generated an entire cottage industry of people who can just follow me around critiquing me.
00:37:04.000So that's exciting But they're having a separate event because they're trying to draw people away from hearing my message because this is what the left does instead of holding their event at a different time or coming to the event and then asking questions and
00:37:14.000Instead, they're going to hold a separate event where they have some guy deliberately misconstrue everything I've ever written, and then talk about how I'm not as smart as I think I am.
00:37:20.000That's actually the title of it, that I'm not as insightful as I think I am, which is weird, because I actually don't think I'm that insightful.
00:37:26.000I actually think that I say things that are pretty obvious most of the time.
00:37:29.000In any case, Antifa says that I am an extreme conservative who thrives on media attention of his campus opposition, so rather than getting people out to fill the auditorium, we decided at our general meeting to support students pushing for alternative programming to counter his toxic politics.
00:37:47.000I'd prefer, I'd much prefer to push instead for civilized conversation.
00:37:53.000My favorite part of their little letter to the editor is that my beliefs caused me to overlook the need for ethnic studies and diversity-related education in the United States.
00:38:44.000But he made some comments that I thought were sort of weird regarding bad behavior in public fora.
00:38:50.000So here is what Tony Perkins had to say about President Trump and his bad behavior.
00:38:54.000In 2016, he allegedly paid off a porn star $130,000 to avoid talking about an affair that they had while he was married to Melania and shortly after she'd given birth to their son, Barron.
00:39:08.000You used the exact word mulligan to talk about this.
00:39:11.000And obviously the most recent allegations involve an affair with a porn star that began a few months after his wife gave birth, the president's wife.
00:39:19.000And they also involve the president's personal attorney reportedly paying off the porn star for her silence.
00:39:24.000And you're saying you get a mulligan, you get a do-over here.
00:39:30.000Well, if this behavior were occurring today, right now, as he is President of the United States, I can assure you that my support and the support of evangelicals would be dissipating very rapidly.
00:39:41.000But we're talking about something that occurred 10 years ago, among a number of things that occurred with this President prior to being President, and myself, along with a lot of evangelicals, were not supportive of him.
00:39:53.000In fact, I campaigned hard for one of his competitors.
00:39:56.000It was when it was down to him and Hillary Clinton.
00:39:59.000He wanted to have the support of evangelicals and he came to them saying, I'm going to pro-life justices.
00:40:05.000I'm picking a pro-life conservative running mate.
00:40:08.000So here's my big problem with all of this.
00:40:09.000Okay, so he's basically saying that Trump gets a mulligan because it happened 10 years ago.
00:40:14.000What you do get is us saying we like your policies but please you having sex with porn stars and then paying them off allegedly is disgusting behavior and inexcusable and gross and I don't understand for the life of me why religious people, Christians, Jews, anyone can't understand this simple distinction.
00:40:31.000You don't have to defend every bad thing that Trump does or give him a mulligan on it just because he's doing a bunch of stuff that you like.
00:40:39.000Bill Clinton pursued policies that today I would like in terms of deficit reduction.
00:40:43.000Okay, that doesn't mean that I gave him a pass on all of his evils.
00:40:46.000And the idea, by the way, that evangelicals or religious people would break with Trump en masse if it turned out he was having sex with a porn star right now in the White House is just not true.
00:41:03.000It is anti-biblical to suggest that Trump gets a mulligan, he gets a do-over for the evils that he has committed, when he's never repented.
00:41:10.000So normally we save the Bible segment for the end of the show, but let me talk a little bit about what the Bible has to say about repentance.
00:41:16.000Because President Trump is somebody who has said that he doesn't seek forgiveness, right?
00:42:21.000So it is not Tony Perkins' job, or my job, or your job to provide absolution to the President on these charges.
00:42:26.000The President is going to have to go to God for that absolution.
00:42:29.000We can say that we back all of his policy when it comes to abortion.
00:42:32.000We back his policy when it comes to religious freedom.
00:42:34.000We back a lot of his policies when it comes to judges.
00:42:37.000It is not our job to give him mulligans on personal transgressions.
00:42:41.000If you can't hold these two thoughts in your head at the same time, I would suggest that you are doing something wrong.
00:42:46.000I think part of the problem here is that there has been a widespread worship of government that has spread throughout the land.
00:42:51.000There's a poll from yesterday from the Wall Street Journal-NBC that suggests Americans, when they were asked whether government should do more or whether government is already doing too much, they split 58-38.
00:43:02.000Right, saying that the government should do more, 58%, while the government is already doing too much, 38%.
00:43:09.000Worth noting, in 1995, after Republicans took over Congress in the Republican Revolution of Gingrich, the split was 32% said more government, 62% said less government.
00:43:21.000In October 2010, just before the GOP swamped Democrats and took back the House, that divide was 45 to 50.
00:43:26.000So in other words, more Americans thought we should have a government that does less than have a government that does more.
00:43:33.000But ever since, we've thought the government ought to do more, and that now includes a large number of Republicans.
00:43:39.000A huge number of Republicans now say that the government should do more.
00:43:42.000So if you look at January 2010, the role of government, 17% of Republicans in 2010 said that the government should do more.
00:43:53.00033% of Republicans say the government should do more.
00:43:55.000If you think that the government is going to save you, if you think that the government's job is to help you, and save you, and enrich your life, and it's not just there to protect you,
00:44:04.000Then you're more likely to give a lot of leeway to politicians.
00:44:07.000You're gonna say, I want the guy in charge who agrees with me because the government needs to save me.
00:44:29.000John Kerry apparently, John Kerry did something so insane yesterday or the day before that it's just, it's ridiculous.
00:44:39.000According to the Jerusalem Post, the White House confirms that since the Jerusalem declaration there's been a complete disconnect between the Palestinian Authority and the Trump administration, but it now turns out the previous administration maintains contact with PA officials.
00:44:52.000Ma'arif reported that former — that's an Israeli newspaper — reported that Secretary of State John Kerry met in London with a close associate of terrorist Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, terrorist is my word, for a long and open conversation.
00:45:03.000Apparently, this guy who's representing Abbas, a guy named Hussein Agha, reported details of the conversation to senior PA officials in Ramallah.
00:45:12.000A senior PA official confirmed to Ma'arif the meeting took place.
00:45:19.000During the conversation, according to the report, John Kerry asked Acha to convey a message to Abbas and to ask him to hold on and be strong.
00:45:28.000Telled Abbas, a terrorist leader who openly came out two weeks ago and said that Trump's house should basically burn down, and suggested that Nikki Haley should feel the wrath of God, and suggested that Israel is not Jewish territory, and suggested that terrorism ought to be pursued, hold on and be strong.
00:45:43.000This is the former administration that goes around saying that Trump is a danger to the Middle East and the world?
00:45:55.000John Kerry apparently told Agha, who is again the stand-in for Mahmoud Abbas, who's now serving the 14th year of his four-year election term.
00:46:08.000He will not yield to President Trump's demands.
00:46:20.000So, you have Kerry over there performing his own foreign policy.
00:46:23.000Hilarious that Mike Flynn is basically gonna go to jail because he lied to the FBI about a supposed violation of the Logan Act.
00:46:29.000But you got John Kerry going out there and openly saying to foreign terrorists, by the way, just hold on, don't do anything, we're coming and we're gonna help you.
00:46:39.000Funny how the media don't seem to care about this story very much.
00:46:40.000Funny how it's just the right-wing media picking up on this and the Jerusalem Post.
00:46:44.000When Mike Flynn was talking to the Russians during the transition, this is a big story, but John Kerry, who's not in power and hasn't been in power for a year and a half, John Kerry is sitting around talking with the Palestinian terrorists about why they should hold up hope against Trump.
00:47:00.000And then he said, maybe it was time for the Palestinians to define their peace principles and present a positive plan.
00:47:05.000And then he suggested that he was going to run for president.
00:47:08.000Then he suggested that if he just waits till 2020, then Trump will be ousted and perhaps Kerry will run for president.
00:47:15.000This is why Republicans do not trust Democrats.
00:47:17.000It's why people don't trust the media.
00:47:18.000If the media refused to cover stories like this, but they are going to go hog-wild over Trump-Russia collusion, no wonder the media has lost the trust of the American people.
00:47:26.000Okay, so now let's do some things I like and some things that I hate.
00:47:29.000So, one quick thing that I like today.
00:47:40.000Forget about all the allegations about Lewis Carroll for just a second, because I don't think we need to get into whether he was into small children in order to judge the quality of his work.
00:47:48.000This is actually an interesting issue.
00:47:49.000There are a lot of people who think that if somebody's a really bad person that we can't enjoy their art.
00:47:53.000I've always found this a bizarre stipulation.
00:47:55.000If the art itself is replete with disgustingness, that's one thing, but if you're just saying that a bad person can't make a great painting, I think that's idiotic.
00:48:02.000This book is really terrific, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland.
00:48:34.000I'm not a Harry Potter fan, but Alice's Adventures in Wonderland I think is quite great and and utterly worth reading.
00:48:40.000Okay, time for a couple of things that I hate.
00:48:47.000Okay, so first thing that I hate, The New York Times' Mike Rosenberg actually tweeted out, he was very upset because, I guess he's a Seattle Times reporter, actually?
00:48:57.000So, he was very upset because after the Amazon Go launch, Amazon Go launched yesterday, and Jeff Bezos' stock gained about $2.8 billion in value.
00:49:05.000Okay, Amazon Go are basically these convenience stores, you walk in, there's no attendant, you grab your products off the shelf, you walk out, no problem, it's charged to your Amazon account.
00:49:13.000And so, Jeff Bezos had a stock gain, because this is a cool invention.
00:49:17.000So here's what Mike Rosenberg tweeted.
00:49:19.000Jeff Bezos made $2.8 billion in one day after his company introduced technology that eliminates the need for cashiers.
00:49:25.000All cashiers in America make an average of $210 million a day combined.
00:49:38.000The reason that's a stupid point is even if you were to assume that Jeff Bezos is somehow taking money out of the pockets of a bunch of poor cashiers,
00:49:47.000The reality is that it's not that he's making $2.8 billion off cashiers losing money to the tune of $210 million a day.
00:49:55.000That means that if he saved the entire industry, the cost of cashiers for 10 days, they would pay for that $2.8 billion.
00:50:03.000The point is that, number one, the statistic is severely flawed.
00:50:07.000They're taking the stock price, which is reflecting the power of a new technology that is going to affect the market over time, and comparing that to a one-day takeaway for cashiers?
00:50:14.000The statistic just makes no sense, but the suggestion, of course, by Mike Rosenberg, is that something terrible has happened here.
00:50:20.000That the evil Jeff Bezos has stolen the livelihoods of cashiers.
00:50:23.000No, evil Jeff Bezos just made technology better and lower your costs at the supermarket.
00:50:27.000Because guess who pays for those cashiers?
00:50:57.000We arrived in North Korea on Saturday.
00:51:00.000We flew the North Korean state airline.
00:51:02.000It's about an hour and a half flight from Beijing.
00:51:05.000They even make an announcement in flight when you've actually crossed the border into North Korea.
00:51:09.000We quickly passed through immigrations, went through a very lengthy and very detailed customs inspection of not only our equipment, but our personal items down to the novels we were reading.