As states begin to certify their votes and courts begin to rule on Team Trump's legal challenges, Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell hold their big presser. But did they actually release the Kraken? Ben Shapiro explains why you should not spend a lot of money on your cell phone bill, and why Pure Talk USA is the way to go. Plus, why you need to know the difference between speculation and evidence in order to make a good legal argument in a court of law, and what is and is not required to prove the existence of massive voter fraud and massive voter irregularity in the Trump administration s case against the Democratic National Committee and Team Trump s challenge to the results of the 2016 presidential election. Ben also explains why there is no such thing as "systemically racist" racism in America and why we need to ask for more evidence to prove that racism is not the root cause of racism in the United States, but rather a symptom of racism within a larger system of corruption and unfairness in our political and legal system, and how we should be asking for evidence that is sufficient to prove this is true or false, not just speculation and not false, and that it is correct or false. Today's show is sponsored by ExpressVPN, and my savvy fans secure their internet at ExpressVPN. Join them at expressvpn.org/slash to get 50% off your first month with discount code "ELSEWHERE" when you sign up for ExpressVPN! and save 50% on their next bill! . Shout it out on the best deal of the month, and get 20% off the entire month! FREE PRIVATE KEYPRIVATE PRICING! Subscribe to the show! and get 10% off that starts July 1st! Get 20% OFF your entire month with ExpressVPN membership when you upgrade to $99.99 and get 15% OFF the first month, plus an additional $5 off your next month when you become a patron gets $5,000 and get an ad discount when you get VIP access to VIP access when you shop at ExpressVpn! Learn more about your first year, get 5 years of ExpressVPN gets 25% off my VIP membership, they get 25% OFF, they also get 5% OFF + FREE 3 months and get $25,000 PRIVOTION PRICED, and they get my FREE TWO MONTH AND VIP gets 5,000 PODCAST AND 4 GB FREE!
00:00:00.000As states begin to certify their votes and courts begin to rule on Team Trump's legal challenges, Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell hold their big presser.
00:00:07.000But did they actually release the Kraken?
00:01:42.000They describe themselves as the elite defense squad or something like that.
00:01:46.000Okay, so they are alleging massive voter fraud and massive voter irregularity.
00:01:49.000We're going to go through their claims in detail.
00:01:50.000We're going to tell you what has been fact-checked and what has not, what is true and what is not, what requires more evidence, and what is sufficient.
00:01:58.000But we have to set the ground rules here first.
00:02:01.000What people say in a press conference is of zero, not just a little, zero consequence to the actual outcome of the elections.
00:02:09.000What happens in court is of outcome to the election.
00:02:11.000That has an impact on the outcome of the elections.
00:02:14.000So, if I say there's not enough evidence at a press conference, that doesn't mean that not enough evidence will be provided in court.
00:02:20.000I don't know what's provided in court.
00:02:22.000Conversely, if somebody makes an outlandish claim at a press conference, that is not in and of itself evidence sufficient to overturn the results of elections in which millions of people have voted.
00:02:31.000You're going to have to provide heavy evidence.
00:02:36.000My job is the same as my job is every day, and that is to try and suss out the difference between speculation and evidence.
00:02:42.000It's to try and tell you the difference between claims that have been verified and claims that have not been verified, and it's to ask for more evidence.
00:02:48.000And this is true for any large-scale claim.
00:02:51.000When people on the left talk about systemic racism and the evils of the American system, I always say I need specific evidence and I need a specific claim so that I can tell you whether it is true or false.
00:02:59.000When people on the left point to a specific instance of a white cop shooting a black man and they say, this is evidence that America is systemically racist, I've asked this question a thousand times.
00:03:07.000I'll say, okay, do you have evidence that that is a racist shooting?
00:03:09.000Do you have evidence that it connects to a broader theme of racism in America?
00:03:16.000Asking for evidence does not mean that I'm not concerned about racism.
00:03:19.000It means that I am concerned about racism.
00:03:22.000It means that before we label an entire system racist, or an entire system corrupt, or even an individual corrupt or racist, we need to make sure that we have evidence for the claim.
00:03:29.000The same thing holds true in the realm of voter fraud and voter irregularity.
00:03:33.000If I'm asking for evidence of a claim sufficient to overturn an election, that's because there are serious issues at play.
00:03:38.000And when you're talking about a legal strategy that is largely designed at getting millions of votes thrown out or re-vote done in certain particular states, Or electors selected by the state legislatures, you need to provide outsized evidence of those claims.
00:03:51.000Evidence should be the baseline standard for rational people.
00:04:04.000If you are talking about something as large scale as a claim that maybe tens of millions of votes, but certainly millions of votes were shifted, for example, or that across the land, huge swaths of votes were discarded improperly or counted improperly, well, then you should be asking for the evidence.
00:04:20.000That seems like the baseline, bottom line to me.
00:04:23.000So we're going to go through the claims.
00:04:33.000The press conference that happened with Giuliani and Ellis and Powell yesterday, It has no actual legal bearing and the time frame here is short.
00:04:41.000So we're hearing a lot from Trump, Team Trump, and the Giuliani, Ellis, and Powell legal team that this is just the beginning.
00:04:49.000They're going to be laying all this out in the coming days.
00:04:54.000If you want to see the election results change from what they currently are, right, if you want to see the election results Change because you believe there is serious voter fraud and voter irregularity.
00:05:06.000You don't have time to wait three weeks.
00:05:07.000You don't have time to wait three months.
00:05:09.000And that is why, if we are going to look at what Team Trump is actually doing, instead of seeing what they are doing in press conferences, we should actually be looking at what they are doing in court.
00:05:16.000And here is where things start to get kind of dicey for Team Trump, because the fact is that states are starting to certify those votes, which means you best expedite this stuff.
00:05:23.000If you're going to release the Kraken, that can't just be a lot of talk at a press conference.
00:05:26.000It actually has to be a lot of evidence that you bring forth in a forum likely to change the outcome.
00:05:31.000Because no matter what you think, or what I think of the election, no matter what anybody thinks of the election, it is going to be certified unless something factually changes on the ground and a lot of evidence is brought in order to change the legal outcome of various elections.
00:06:05.000Once the results are certified, the losing campaign can then request another recount if they want one.
00:06:11.000Okay, the fact is that the election numbers have not changed.
00:06:15.000There were about a thousand votes that shifted over the course of the recount because a bunch of votes were found.
00:06:20.000About a thousand votes shifted in the hand recount over into the Trump camp, or at least were added to the Trump camp, which means that right now, the deficit for Trump is about 13,000 votes, or it was about 14,000 votes.
00:06:31.000That's not enough, obviously, to overturn the results of the election.
00:06:34.000And the high likelihood is that the state of Georgia is going to certify those election results, barring some sort of last minute Parachuting in of massive evidence of voter fraud.
00:06:43.000Meanwhile, it is important to note that in Pennsylvania, then in Michigan, the Trump campaign withdrew its Michigan election lawsuit.
00:06:49.000Andy McCarthy writing over at National Review, he says the Washington Times reports the Trump campaign has now dropped a federal lawsuit in Michigan by which it challenged over a million mail-in ballots in the hope of preventing the state government from certifying the election result.
00:07:00.000He says it is clearly a face-saving measure.
00:07:47.000to overturn 1.4 million votes in Wayne County.
00:07:50.000That obviously is not going to be the proper remedy.
00:07:52.000You can't disenfranchise 1.4 million people because the poll books didn't line up for 350 votes.
00:07:57.000The discrepancy there is just too large, and you're talking about a state in which Trump right now trails in the count by about 150,000 votes.
00:08:04.000According to Annie McCarthy, the campaign claimed the lawsuit was being withdrawn as a direct result of achieving the relief they sought with Wayne County not certifying the vote, but of course, Wayne County did certify the vote, so that obviously is not even true.
00:08:14.000Okay, so Team Trump withdrawing the lawsuit in Michigan That was a face-saving measure, as Andy McCarthy says.
00:08:20.000It was not because they actually got what they wanted in Michigan.
00:08:22.000They didn't get what they wanted in Michigan.
00:08:25.000So the vote to certify the Wayne County ballot still under state law is going forward.
00:08:31.000Jim Garrity explained that for the Michigan County certifications to be transmitted to the state cannabis board, that is the next step for full certification.
00:08:38.000The Trump campaign used the purported rescissions as an opportunity to declare an optical victory and then drop the Michigan lawsuit.
00:08:45.000Now, they're not claiming that there weren't voter irregularities.
00:08:49.000They're just sort of recognizing that they weren't going to get the relief that they sought from the courts.
00:08:51.000And so they quietly dropped the lawsuits and then claimed victory, which of course is not going to be effective in actually changing the outcome of everything happening in Michigan.
00:09:00.000Now, meanwhile, in Pennsylvania, something similar has been happening.
00:09:04.000As Annie McCarthy says, the lawsuit that was filed by Team Trump in Pennsylvania was dependent on large-scale claims that voter fraud had basically taken place.
00:09:14.000And then, in the middle of the court hearing, they actually dropped the charge of voter fraud from the lawsuit itself.
00:09:19.000Now, that doesn't mean they didn't say there was voter fraud.
00:09:22.000They just say that their claim of voter fraud is not enough to sustain the relief they are seeking.
00:09:25.000Namely, To put aside the results of the election as currently constituted in Pennsylvania.
00:09:31.000They realized they couldn't meet the high burden of proof that voter fraud would require, and so they dropped that claim from their Pennsylvania lawsuit.
00:09:36.000So if they're out there claiming voter fraud, not in court, and they're doing it publicly, that does not actually change the outcome of the election.
00:09:41.000It may change public opinion on voter fraud, it's not gonna change the outcome of the election in Pennsylvania, which means the window continues to narrow.
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00:11:03.000Okay, so Again, all of this is giving the legal background for where we currently stand, because whatever is said in a press conference is of no impact in a court.
00:11:11.000What is said in court is of impact in a court.
00:11:13.000So, according to Annie McCarthy, the lawsuit in Pennsylvania cannot conceivably change the result in Pennsylvania.
00:11:18.000The court will probably not even rule on the lawsuit.
00:11:21.000The campaign has sort of gotten a bad rap, says Andy McCarthy, for dropping its main counts, which allege that there were gross improprieties amounting to fraud in Pennsylvania's tabulation of the vote.
00:11:30.000Abandoning the counts seemed inexplicable on Sunday, given the campaign was simultaneously alleging massive fraud on TV.
00:11:41.000The campaign shed the fraud-related counts in response to the Third Circuit Court of Appeals ruling.
00:11:45.000The fault lies in pressing ahead with a narrower suit that can't change the outcome of the race in Pennsylvania, even in the unlikely event the campaign prevails.
00:11:55.000The claims that are still alive in Pennsylvania are talking about, again, hundreds or maybe low thousands of votes.
00:12:02.000They're not talking about the number of votes significant enough to actually call for an overturning of the election.
00:12:09.000And basically, Team Trump acknowledges that at this point.
00:12:13.000The Third Circuit brings us news of how negligible is the number of votes involved when you're talking about, for example, the claim by Team Trump that a bunch of people had been post-marking their ballots after the actual election date.
00:12:24.000Apparently, this is a very low number of ballots.
00:12:27.000Out of 7 million total ballots cast in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, the Secretary of State reported to the court only 9,383 votes were received statewide in the three days after November 3rd, even if all of those were Biden votes, which they weren't.
00:12:37.000And if the court voided all of them, which it won't because some of them were in fact postmarked before November 3rd, Trump would still be 73,000 votes short in Pennsylvania.
00:12:45.000Only 655 total lack a legible postmark, which of course is not going to shift the outcome of the election.
00:12:52.000Also, there's a problem between state and federal law.
00:12:55.000The Third Circuit explains there is no judicially cognizable federal right to force state or federal governments to comply with the law.
00:13:03.000Normally, you have to claim that there's a federal right that has been violated.
00:13:05.000If, in fact, the state law allows for something to happen, it's hard to make an equal protection claim on the federal basis.
00:13:12.000They said that there is no equal protection violation because of the state's three-day extension.
00:13:18.000The court noted that in addition to Pennsylvania, 19 states and D.C.
00:13:20.000permit the receipt of votes post-election.
00:13:22.000Voters don't suffer a cognizable harm based on what for them is a formalistic difference between whether post-election receipt is authorized by statute or by a ruling of the state's highest court.
00:13:30.000So they're saying it's not an equal protection case either.
00:13:32.000Okay, so that doesn't mean that's a good ruling.
00:13:34.000It does mean that the Trump legal team's chances in Pennsylvania are basically down to nothing unless they actually come out with serious, robust evidence of serious, large-scale voter fraud.
00:13:48.000That is just the reality of the situation.
00:13:52.000I understand that people can be angry at the law.
00:13:54.000They can feel like the law should allow for the overturning of large-scale voting based on the possibility of fraud or based on proof of small-scale voter problems.
00:14:07.000That theoretically could be larger scale voter problems, but you don't have evidence to prove it's hundreds of thousands of votes?
00:14:11.000Okay, but the reality remains that that is not how this is going to work.
00:14:15.000Okay, in the end, if you make outsized claims, like we need to disenfranchise 7 million voters in Pennsylvania, or we need to disenfranchise 5 million voters in Michigan, or we need to disenfranchise 5 million voters in Georgia, you're going to need more than a few hundred votes were shifted here, or there's a possibility that hundreds of thousands of votes were shifted, but we don't actually have proof that these votes were shifted.
00:14:35.000Claims, outside, large claims require large levels of proof.
00:14:39.000Okay, so, if you're gonna release the Kraken, now is when you need the tsunami of evidence that demonstrates that hundreds of thousands of votes were shifted, right, across the country.
00:14:47.000And at the very least, that some 13,000 votes were shifted in Georgia, if Trump is supposed to win Georgia, and 13,000 votes were shifted in Arizona, or went missing, or were fraudulently counted in Arizona, or that 150,000 votes were fraudulently counted or shifted in Michigan, or that 80,000 votes were shifted or fraudulently counted in Pennsylvania, right?
00:15:05.000That is what you're going to need to prove in court.
00:15:19.000But you can't keep coming out publicly and saying you have presented the evidence when you have not yet presented the evidence publicly and then say, okay, well, it's in court and the courts will see all of that evidence.
00:15:28.000Okay, well, now you're where I am, which is okay.
00:15:30.000The court's going to rule and the process is going to move forward.
00:15:33.000Now, sort of the preemptive panic attack that is happening in the media that the election is going to be stolen or that this is really horrible for our democracy.
00:15:39.000There's a legal process, as I've been saying since the beginning.
00:15:43.000The legal process will require evidence.
00:15:45.000There will be, if the legal process does not find massive evidence of voter fraud or voter irregularity and does not overturn the current vote counts, there will be an inauguration and there will be a peaceful transfer of power.
00:15:56.000Every state legislature has said this.
00:15:59.000And I will say that I don't think that it's a great look that President Trump has, for example, called up people in the Michigan legislature and asked them to come visit the White House in the middle of all of this.
00:16:10.000The implication, theoretically, people are speculating, is that Trump is calling them up because he wants them to come visit, and then he's going to convince them to elect a slate of electors as opposed to simply going along with certifying the vote.
00:16:20.000Now, the Michigan legislature has already said, we're not going to do that.
00:16:23.000We're not going to ignore the votes of our millions of people and just put up a slate of electors based on vague allegations of voter fraud or even specific, but very closely enumerated allegations of voter fraud that don't amount to the difference between Joe Biden's vote and your vote.
00:16:38.000Still, it's not a particularly good look.
00:16:40.000So, once again, here's all I'm saying.
00:16:45.000Even in a presser, if you're going to make a robust claim to the American public of serious voter fraud and serious voter irregularity, that requires robust evidence, not just Of occasional voter fraud, or occasional voter irregularity, or even the possibility of voter fraud or voter irregularity.
00:16:58.000I mean, there are lots of possibilities out there.
00:17:01.000And I will take, under advisement, all of those possibilities.
00:17:03.000I think there's plenty of ways that we can clean up the system.
00:17:05.000I think mail-in voting, full-scale mail-in voting, has been proved this time around, as always, to be a disaster.
00:17:11.000I've been in favor of voter ID in person on the day of voting, except for people who literally require an absentee ballot because, for health reasons or any other legit reason, they cannot get to the polling place.
00:17:21.000It turns out millions of people could vote and it didn't spread COVID everywhere.
00:17:27.000That does not mean that the burden of proof has been reached.
00:17:30.000There is indeed a burden of proof in allegations alone, and even affidavits alone, attesting to specific acts do not imply that hundreds of thousands of votes were shifted.
00:17:38.000Now, Sidney Powell is claiming something different.
00:17:40.000Sidney Powell is claiming that the system actually was hacked and millions of votes were shifted.
00:17:45.000We'll get to all of these allegations in just one second, because the press conference, on the one hand, is being taken by some as, this is the Kraken.
00:17:51.000The press conference alone is enough for us to overturn the election, which is not correct.
00:17:56.000And then, on the other hand, you have people saying, everything in the press conference is bullcrap, and we should just ignore all of it, and we should not investigate any of these claims, and that, of course, is silly as well.
00:18:04.000All claims of voter fraud and voter irregularity that are legit should be investigated, that are credible should be investigated.
00:18:10.000Also, a burden of proof has to be reached.
00:18:13.000Hey, that's just the way it's going to be.
00:18:14.000The election outcome ain't going to change based on your opinion or my opinion.
00:18:17.000It's going to change based on what is proved in court.
00:18:21.000OK, so we're going to get to the presser in just one second and we'll see whether the whether the Kraken was indeed released first.
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00:19:38.000Okay, so, finally, we got to the Kraken releasing press conference, right?
00:20:27.000And then when the mail-in votes started to be tabulated at the end of the night, because they're tabulated after the in-person votes, the in-person votes are tabulated basically on the spot.
00:21:02.000We have statisticians willing to testify that that's almost statistically impossible to have happened in the period of time that it happened.
00:21:09.000But of course that's just speculation.
00:22:02.000The reality is that we are now at a count of 682,770 ballots for which we have affidavits that there was no inspection of that ballot at the time that it was entered in the vote.
00:22:20.000Mail ballots are particularly prone to fraud.
00:22:23.000So he is not actually making an allegation that fraud happened.
00:22:26.000He is saying that there weren't observers who are close enough to the ballots to be able to see the mail-in ballots when they were tabulated.
00:22:33.000And so theoretically, all of those could be fraud.
00:22:35.000Okay, that is a pretty... If you want to get 700,000 votes thrown out, you're gonna have to show there was some fraud in those 700,000 votes.
00:23:01.000What you claim in court is what's actually going to be ruled upon, not what gets claimed in press conferences.
00:23:05.000Okay, then Giuliani suggested that the recount being done in Georgia is illegitimate.
00:23:09.000The reason it's illegitimate is because he says that the signature verification that happened in Georgia was inaccurate.
00:23:16.000There was signature matching, and signature matching was done poorly in Georgia because if you have an absentee ballot, then you put it in an envelope.
00:23:25.000The envelope signature is then matched up to the signature book, right, for your absentee ballot application.
00:23:32.000They're matched up, then you throw away the envelope, and then you count the ballot.
00:23:35.000His suggestion is that there are a bunch of people in Georgia who basically were not matching up the ballot envelope with the actual signature in the book, so they were counting naked ballots, and those naked ballots could have been fraudulent. Here is Giuliani trying to make that claim. So for example, the recount being done in Georgia will tell us nothing, because these fraudulent ballots will just be counted again, because they wouldn't supply the signatures to match the ballots.
00:24:04.000We'll get to the sort of fact check on that in just a second, how the process actually works in Georgia.
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00:25:30.000When Giuliani suggests that the recount in Georgia isn't effective because you are actually just tabulating ballots, that the envelope was thrown away on the outside, right?
00:25:40.000It was disconnected, and therefore it was never actually signature verified.
00:25:48.000Once you've thrown away the part that was the signature verification, then theoretically, if you did it wrong the first time, you are retabulating a bunch of ballots that were originally mischecked.
00:25:57.000But Brendan Keefe, the Chief Investigator at Atlanta's WXIA, he says signatures are verified before ballots are counted.
00:26:04.000They can't be checked again in a recount under the Georgia Constitution because that would betray the secrecy of a voter's identity.
00:26:10.000You would then know how the voter voted and you'd be checking their ID at the same time.
00:26:13.000He says these votes actually were verified in 159 Georgia counties overseen by the Republican Georgia Secretary of State.
00:26:19.000Any disputes or questionable signatures went to a three-person adjudication team.
00:26:23.000One Republican, one Democrat, one staffer.
00:26:26.000Okay, so apparently they were checked.
00:26:29.000Giuliani is claiming that they weren't properly checked.
00:26:31.000He's gonna have to provide the evidence of that allegation, obviously, in a Georgia court.
00:26:36.000Okay, the next allegation is he moved on to Pennsylvania.
00:26:38.000And he says that in Pennsylvania, this is a claim that is still part of that Pennsylvania lawsuit.
00:26:43.000And the idea is that in certain areas, you were allowed to cure your ballot more easily than if you cured your ballot in other areas.
00:26:48.000So, you came in, you cast a ballot, you realized you made a mistake on the ballot, you went over, and now you were allowed to cure your ballot.
00:26:55.000Or you sent in an absentee ballot, and then you came in to check it, and you realized you'd screwed it up, and you were allowed to cure the ballot.
00:27:01.000And he says, well, the ballot curing period for different areas was different, and so that's an equal protection violation, meaning that you have two different standards in two different counties.
00:27:09.000Number one, the number of votes in Pennsylvania that this happened to is probably not the 70 or 80, not probably not, almost certainly not, the 80,000 vote discrepancy that you're talking about in Pennsylvania.
00:27:21.000And beyond that, The allegation presumably is that curing the, it's one thing to say curing the ballots a week out is bad because it violates statute.
00:27:28.000It's another to say that the curing the ballot standard at the actual polling place was a little looser in one place and a little less loose in another place.
00:27:36.000And this disenfranchised people, you need evidence that people who are Republican were disenfranchised and the people who are improperly voting were enfranchised.
00:27:43.000That evidence has not yet been provided.
00:27:44.000Presumably that will be provided in court, right?
00:27:46.000I mean, that's gonna have to be part of the court case.
00:27:51.000For example, if you've made a mistake in that ballot and you lived in Philadelphia or in Pittsburgh, you were allowed to fix the mistake.
00:28:05.000you But if you lived in the what would be considered more Republican or Trump parts of the state, you were given no such right.
00:28:15.000Okay, so again, that is a claim that is being made in Pennsylvania court and that will be adjudicated.
00:28:21.000He continues, and he talks about provisional ballots, and here again, he's now alleging voter fraud, but he does not actually allege voter fraud in court.
00:28:27.000I keep pointing out this discrepancy between what he alleges in court and what he alleges in a presser, because what you allege in a presser is of no legal consequence.
00:28:35.000What you allege in court is what is of legal consequence, if you actually care about the outcome of the election.
00:28:40.000If you care about the sort of PR of this, if you care about, you know, the image that Trump didn't lose, then the pressure matters.
00:28:46.000But if you actually are one of the people who's invested in the outcome of the election and in voter regularity and non-voter fraud, then what happens in court is significantly more impactful.
00:28:55.000What happens in court matters significantly more.
00:28:57.000So here's Giuliani suggesting that people went in and fraudulently cast provisional ballots.
00:29:03.000Now, That is not an allegation that he's made in court in Pennsylvania.
00:29:06.000Again, it's important to note this stuff.
00:29:09.000I don't mean to be a wet blanket and I don't think it's being a wet blanket to say that I would love nothing better than to see Donald Trump inaugurated again on January 20th.
00:29:18.000In order for that to happen, this stuff has to happen in court.
00:29:21.000It can't just be Giuliani throwing things out in a press conference that he then does not allege in court.
00:29:27.000Why did it happen 15,000 times that people in Pittsburgh walked in to vote and they Had already voted according to the Democrat election machine.
00:29:51.000That as witnesses will testify, they were instructed by the Democrat bosses, when they had a ballot in which there was no one registered, just assign it to somebody.
00:30:06.000Okay, so now the idea is that you have random people basically told by the Democratic bosses walking into Pennsylvania polling places and just taking out fraudulently ballots that have not been assigned to anybody yet, right?
00:30:18.000There was an absentee ballot sent out, nobody turned it back in, so you walked in and you basically said you were that person, then you voted.
00:30:34.000And I'm not saying I need to see them, but the court certainly is going to need to see them.
00:30:37.000Okay, then Giuliani makes the case that the observers, Republican observers, were not allowed in the room in order to see what was going on.
00:30:44.000Now, what the courts have found is that Republican observers in places like Pennsylvania were allowed in the room, but that they were being put Too far away, in certain cases, since there was this temporary injunction that was put in place to get the observers a little bit closer.
00:30:55.000Here is Giuliani talking about this and then invoking my cousin Vinny.
00:30:59.000This, of course, the media only wanted to focus on a couple things from this press conference because they didn't actually want to cover a lot of the substance of the press conference.
00:31:04.000They focused in on two particular things.
00:31:06.000One, Giuliani doing an entire scene from my cousin Vinny, which he actually did.
00:31:10.000And two, the fact that Giuliani, who dyes his hair, had his hair dyed.
00:31:14.000His hair dye started running down his face in the middle of the press conference, which of course is an optical boo-boo, but has no impact on what the man is actually saying.
00:31:48.000Okay, and then he did a whole scene from My Cousin Vinny about the two fingers versus the three fingers, and they couldn't see exactly what was going on.
00:31:54.000Again, that is a voter irregularity, and that is bad, and there should be lawsuits on that basis.
00:31:59.000Are you going to get the entire state of Pennsylvania their vote tossed?
00:32:04.000I mean, the remedy just there is not there legally.
00:32:07.000Okay, we'll get to Michigan in one second, because there, he makes the most shocking allegation, which is literally that giant busloads of ballots shipped in for Joe Biden were sort of dumped into the vast balloting.
00:32:18.000Okay, we'll get to that in just one second.
00:32:20.000Plus, we'll get to Sidney Powell, who made some very significant allegations about Dominion voting systems and suggests that literally millions of votes were shifted from one side to the other.
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00:36:35.000Okay, so Rudy then continues the allegations and he talks about, I think, the most shocking allegation.
00:36:46.000He alleges that there are four people who gave affidavits, four, who say that at 4.30 in the morning, a truck pulled up to a Detroit center where they were counting and just started unloading boxes of ballots marked for Joe Biden.
00:36:57.000Now, that one seems like that should be fairly easy for the media to check in on, right?
00:37:01.000I mean, they can read those affidavits, presumably, if those have been filed with the court.
00:37:05.000Now, that's like a real allegation of voter fraud, right?
00:37:25.000Four affiants here, those are people who give affidavits, report an incident that under any other circumstances would have been on the front page of all your newspapers.
00:37:35.000If it didn't involve the hatred that you have, the irrational, pathological hatred that you have for the president.
00:37:43.000What they swear to is that at 4.30 in the morning, a truck pulled up to the Detroit center where they were counting ballots.
00:37:53.000And here's what they jointly swear to.
00:37:57.000That every ballot that they could see, every thing they could hear, these were ballots for Biden.
00:38:46.000Okay, there's only one problem, which is I am not sure that all of those affidavits have actually been filed in an ongoing case in Michigan because the other day, the Trump team, as I mentioned, pulled out of their case in Michigan, Trump versus Benson.
00:38:57.000And Giuliani said they dismissed it because the case was attempting to get the Wayne County Board of Supervisors to decertify it, and they did.
00:40:40.000She gets up and she starts talking about the Kraken, right?
00:40:43.000This is the release the Kraken moment.
00:40:44.000She's the one who originally started using that phrase that she was going to reveal evidence that literally millions of votes were shifted in the election.
00:41:12.000Not that there's a possibility of hack, but that there was a hack.
00:41:15.000That in fact the voting systems of the United States were compromised.
00:41:19.000Which means that you can't trust any election result, right?
00:41:20.000I mean, not just the presidential election result.
00:41:22.000Any place that used a Dominion voting system, presumably, would now be in question.
00:41:26.000And in fact, she actually does say that in this press conference.
00:41:28.000So here is Sidney Powell laying forth her theory of what happened here with Dominion voting systems and Smartmatic technology.
00:41:36.000What we are really dealing with here and uncovering more by the day is the massive influence of communist money through Venezuela, Cuba, and likely China in the interference with our elections here in the United States.
00:41:55.000The Dominion voting systems, the Smartmatic technology software, And the software that goes in other computerized voting systems here as well, not just Dominion, were created in Venezuela at the direction of Hugo Chavez to make sure he never lost an election after one constitutional referendum came out the way he did not want it to come out.
00:42:20.000Okay, so she is essentially saying that Smartmatic and Dominion are the same, that Smartmatic is a subsidiary of Dominion Voting Systems and that Smartmatic was developed in Venezuela, software was developed in Venezuela at the direction of Hugo Chavez, who of course has been dead since 2013, but the idea is that Hugo Chavez's Venezuelan voting system has been sort of taken up into the American voting system and is still significantly vulnerable to hack.
00:42:43.000She continues along these lines, suggesting that the software itself has backdoors that allow people to hack in and then change votes from one party to the other.
00:42:50.000These are the sorts of allegations that, if true, completely blow up voting in the country.
00:42:54.000I mean, that's how large these allegations are.
00:42:56.000If you are alleging that the Dominion voting system, which is used in 24 states, That Dominion voting system is so, not just that there's a possibility of compromise, but that it was so heavily compromised that millions of votes were shifted.
00:43:08.000And you're talking about redoing the entire election, essentially.
00:43:13.000I mean, it's the end of this, of trust in elections, period, in the United States, if what Sidney Powell is saying is true.
00:43:19.000So here she is explaining what she thinks happened with the software.
00:43:25.000Now the software itself was created with so many variables and so many back doors that can be hooked up to the internet or a thumb drive stuck in it or whatever, but one of its most characteristic features is its ability to flip votes.
00:43:41.000It can set and run an algorithm that probably ran all over the country to take a certain percentage of votes from President Trump and flip them to President Biden, which we might never have uncovered had the votes for President Trump not been so overwhelming in so many of these states that it broke the algorithm that had been plugged into the system.
00:44:03.000And that's what caused them to have to shut down in the states they shut down in.
00:44:08.000That's when they came in the back door with all the mail-in ballots.
00:44:13.000Okay, so what she's alleging right now is that there's an algorithm that was used in the software from Dominion and that this algorithm...
00:44:21.000was designed to create, from whole cloth, votes for Joe Biden to outweigh the votes from Donald Trump.
00:44:28.000And that Trump's vote was so heavy in a lot of the states where he was doing well early in the night, like Georgia and Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, that the shutdown was not in fact a shutdown.
00:44:38.000What the shutdown was, was the algorithm shut down the machines.
00:44:41.000And now all the people came in the back door with all the fake ballots, right?
00:44:44.000That lines up with what Giuliani is saying about these affidavits suggesting that there were all of these printed out fake ballots for Joe Biden.
00:44:51.000Which is a pretty sophisticated, but also not supremely hard to evidence conspiracy, right?
00:44:56.000I mean, if that is true, you should be able to get a hold of one of the Dominion voting system's machines, and you should be able to check for the algorithm.
00:45:02.000You should be able to identify the algorithm.
00:45:03.000Also, I'm not sure how an algorithm gets broken.
00:45:05.000Like, honestly, I'm not a software person, so I don't know if that is a plausible allegation or if that is not a plausible allegation.
00:45:12.000Powell suggests that these machines were essentially preset, right?
00:45:16.000She says that they were preset to change the ratio of a Biden vote to a Trump vote.
00:45:20.000Here she is continuing along these lines.
00:45:24.000There's an algorithm that runs that automatically flips all the votes and then each operator has the ability to go in, override settings, they can ignore a signature, they can ignore the top line of the ballot, they can go down ballot and select who they want to change the results for.
00:45:46.000The gentleman who founded Smartmatic, there's video of him on the internet explaining that, yes, at at least one occasion, he admits, they changed a million votes with no problem.
00:45:57.000Okay, so the basic idea here is that the algorithm was in the computer.
00:46:06.000It broke the algorithm, and they brought in a bunch of ballots through the back door, and that Smartmatic was once a Venezuelan technology, and so it was designed exactly for this sort of thing.
00:46:17.000That allegation would require extraordinary evidence, because you're talking about the wrecking of the entire American system by Dominion, is what you're talking about right here.
00:47:02.000And she sort of acknowledged that there had not been a lot of evidence presented in this press conference specifically.
00:47:07.000She says, this is the opening argument.
00:47:09.000So what you've heard now is basically an opening statement.
00:47:13.000This is what you can expect to see when we get to court to actually have a full trial on the merits to actually show this evidence in court and prove our case.
00:47:26.000And I'm hearing a lot of people today saying, you know, you and Tucker Carlson and other people, you keep saying that you want more evidence and the evidence will be shown in court.
00:47:39.000But I'm also getting a lot of people who are saying, well, the fact that the allegations are made, that demonstrates that this election was completely illegitimate, top to bottom.
00:47:46.000Okay, it's not going to be ruled that way unless this thing actually goes to court.
00:47:49.000I'm repeating myself a lot here to be extremely clear.
00:47:52.000On a political level, Nothing would make me happier than for Donald Trump to retain the Oval Office.
00:47:59.000In order for that to happen, all of these allegations are gonna need to be supported in court.
00:48:03.000And extraordinary allegations like the Venezuelans created a voting system that was then ingested into Dominion, used in 24 states, and then people were literally paying off people in order to game the system, that's gonna require some evidence.
00:48:15.000Okay, by the way, that's what Sidney Powell suggested.
00:48:17.000Sidney Powell didn't just suggest that Joe Biden had gamed the system, she suggested that candidates all over America had gamed the system.
00:48:24.000Right, she actually claimed that Republicans and Democrats, this is clip 21, Republicans and Democrats paid Dominion, this is how Dominion apparently makes its money, is by people taking bribes in Dominion in order for them to be voted for via this corrupt algorithm.
00:48:44.000In terms of the level of corruption we are looking at here, we have no idea how many Republican or Democratic candidates in any state across the country paid to have the system rigged to work for them.
00:48:59.000These people didn't do this just to take control.
00:49:02.000They make one heck of a lot of money off of it.
00:49:05.000Okay, so the suggestion now is that Dominion doesn't make its money off of being paid by states in order to use their voting system.
00:49:22.000Okay, and it is important to note that at this point, you know, Dominion was used in Georgia.
00:49:25.000The allegations are being made about Dominion.
00:49:28.000The hand count in Georgia matches the Dominion voter tabulation in Georgia.
00:49:32.000So you're going to have to explain how that happened.
00:49:34.000Giuliani's theory is that a bunch of absentee ballots were fraudulently kind of put into the system that matched up directly with the Dominion voting system.
00:49:42.000So it wasn't really the algorithm that did it, it was the fraudulent ballots that did it.
00:49:46.000Okay, evidence in any case is going to need to be presented here.
00:49:49.000As far as Dominion and whether Dominion actually has these sorts of voter fraud backdoor possibilities.
00:49:53.000Listen, any system can be hacked, but beyond that, the question is whether Dominion actually is just an offshoot of Venezuelan technology.
00:49:59.000Dominion is actually owned since 2018 by Staple Street Capital, a New York private equity firm, according to the UK Independent.
00:50:06.000Both Dominion and Smartmatic have released statements saying no ownership relationship exists between the two competing firms.
00:50:39.000Smartmatic purchased the voting machine company Sequoia Voting Systems in 2005, then sold it two years later after objections were raised over its partnership with a company in which Venezuela's government had invested.
00:50:49.000And then three years after Smartmatic sold Sequoia, Dominion acquired Sequoia.
00:50:52.000So the accusation is that Sequoia had a bunch of Venezuelan technology in Sequoia, and then Dominion acquired Sequoia, and so all of the Smartmatic technology supposedly corrupted by the Venezuelans was taken up into Sequoia, and then Dominion acquired Sequoia.
00:51:07.000Election security experts say it's difficult to know for certain whether some sequoia code may be used in Dominion's software because of the industry's limited transparency.
00:51:14.000Both Dominion and Smartmatic say they do not use the same software.
00:51:17.000Dominion put out a statement on its website.
00:51:18.000Whether it's true or not, who the hell knows?
00:51:20.000Dominion has no company ownership relationships with any member of the Pelosi family, the Feinstein family, the Clinton Global Initiative, Smartmatic, CITL, or any ties to Venezuela.
00:51:28.000Smartmatic also says that they've never owned any shares or had any financial stake in Dominion Voting Systems.
00:51:33.000Smartmatic has never provided Dominion Voting Systems with any software, hardware, or other technology.
00:51:37.000The two companies are competitors in the marketplace.
00:51:39.000Okay, so that is what the companies claim.
00:51:41.000At the very least, all of this should be susceptible to investigation and will have to be proved in court, obviously.
00:51:47.000So that is where things currently stand.
00:52:06.000And it is not a sin for people to ask for that evidence to be shown in the court of public opinion before I make up my mind on the veracity of the claims themselves.
00:52:12.000When you make an extraordinary claim, I require extraordinary evidence.
00:52:17.000Okay, so that is where things currently stand.
00:52:19.000That is a bevy of allegations that have been put forward.
00:52:22.000The Dominion ones are particularly stunning.
00:52:24.000If they can be substantiated in any way, then that will undermine not only public confidence in our elections, it will undermine elections that have been held using Dominion systems for the last several years.
00:52:33.000It would be a disaster area for the country, but of course, more of a disaster area would be moving forward with a fraudulence election if that could be proved.
00:53:04.000When we kept pressing, she got angry and told us to stop contacting her.
00:53:08.000When we checked with others around the Trump campaign, people in positions of authority, they told us Powell has never given them any evidence either.
00:53:15.000Nor did she provide any today at the press conference.
00:53:18.000Powell did say that electronic voting is dangerous.
00:53:39.000Some 46% of Americans say they think that Trump should concede right away, which means 54% of Americans don't agree.
00:53:47.000And of those 54% of Americans, about 32% of Americans came up with the correct answer to this question, which is, it depends on what the evidence shows.
00:53:57.000Evidence should always be the standard in every case.
00:54:01.000For her part, Sidney Powell responded to Tucker by saying, I'm not going to present all the evidence because we're going to do that in court and I'm not busy doing interviews.
00:54:08.000I mean, she kind of is busy doing interviews, obviously.
00:54:13.000She came out yesterday and did an interview, I believe with Lou Dobbs, suggesting that the election results in all the swing states should be overturned.
00:54:19.000Well, if you're going to do an interview suggesting that, then you kind of have to provide the evidence to back that.
00:54:24.000No, I mean, we are talking about millions of votes across the United States, which does matter regardless of whether you're a Democrat or Republican, you should want all the votes counted.
00:54:32.000Well, yes, Lou, the entire election, frankly, in all the swing states should be overturned and the legislature should make sure that the electors are selected for Trump.
00:54:47.000And it's going to have to follow the constitutional provisions that it go be decided according to the amendment.
00:54:56.000Well, unfortunately, Sidney Powell's team, uh, when it came, she'll do an interview with, with, with Lou Dobbs.
00:55:01.000She wasn't going to do one with Tucker Carlson and her, her team apparently got very angry at Tucker for suggesting that evidence be presented.
00:55:07.000Uh, apparently, uh, the, the, In-house counsel for Sidney Powell PC, Molly McCann, responded to Carlson's demand for transparency by saying that he sounded like a spoiled brat.
00:55:18.000She said the million-dollar question isn't why won't Sidney, who barely has time to sleep or eat, text Tucker the evidence he wants.
00:55:23.000The question is why won't Tucker text her and say, whenever you are ready and if you choose, my platform is at your disposal to present your case to the nation.
00:55:45.000Joni Ernst, the senator from Iowa, she was commenting on Powell's comment, right?
00:55:50.000Powell's most outrageous comment was that candidates, Republican and Democrat, all over the United States are paying Dominion voting systems in order to rig elections, which is an extraordinary claim, again.
00:55:59.000And Joni Ernst was like, that's kind of crazy.
00:56:01.000I mean, you shouldn't be claiming that candidates are rigging elections all over the place willy-nilly.
00:56:19.000For those of us that do stand up and represent our states in a dignified manner, we believe in honesty, we believe in the integrity of our election system.
00:56:33.000Okay, so again, for the one millionth time, Big allegations require big evidence.
00:56:41.000If that evidence is not provided, it's going to be very hard for anything to be proved or for allegations that are very large to be taken seriously.
00:56:48.000In 2004, Democrats claimed that Diebold voting machines had been hacked.
00:56:51.000They could not provide any evidence of the Diebold voting machines having been hacked, and so we rightly said we're not going to pay any attention to that.
00:56:57.000Now, we're going to need evidence that this happened because this is the biggest voting scandal in the history of the United States, bar none, if what Sidney Powell is saying is true.
00:57:05.000And the same thing is true if Rudy Giuliani's claims are true.
00:57:09.000And now, yesterday, this all culminated in media members doing what media members do.
00:57:13.000So instead of saying, okay, we'd like to see the evidence.
00:57:25.000So Mike Pence was doing a presser on COVID-19, which by the way, some good news, Pfizer has now requested emergency authorization to start distributing its vaccine by the end of this month, which is actually real good news.
00:57:53.000It's just if I'm caught on camera shouting at him, then I get my scene in the movie to be made about the evils of the Trump administration backlit and with an upshot.
00:58:17.000And you won't work with the transaction.
00:58:35.000Honestly, there is another point to be made here in all of this, regardless of what the allegations end up being or what evidence it ends up showing.
00:58:42.000There is a systemic distrust of the system that is now set in.
00:58:53.000They don't know who to trust when it comes to this stuff because it seems like nobody is telling them the truth.
00:58:58.000And that is because they believe that everybody is badly motivated.
00:59:00.000And in a lot of cases, they are right.
00:59:02.000Now, when Trump supporters look at the journalistic entities who are saying, just dismissing out of hand Giuliani's claims or Powell's claims, When they see that, and these people are not saying, okay, we need to see the evidence, they're just immediately dismissing it.
00:59:14.000Or when they say voter fraud has never happened anywhere.
00:59:17.000Or when they say that the polls are absolutely correct.
00:59:19.000Or when they say it's clear that Russian collusion happened.
00:59:21.000Trump voters are going to respond by saying, we're not going to listen to anything that you have to say.
00:59:26.000Scorn does breed retaliatory scorn and distrust.
00:59:29.000That is just the way that human beings behave and there's a reason for that.
00:59:34.000It does make a difference when you have columns like one from Wajahat Ali in the New York Times suggesting that reaching out to Trump supporters is a bad idea.
00:59:42.000He has an entire article in the New York Times yesterday in which he talks about how he, after 2016, decided he was going to travel the country and talk to Trump supporters.
00:59:49.000But his entire article is about how he went around, he talked to Trump supporters, and they didn't change their minds, and therefore they are bad and terrible and horrible and racist.
00:59:57.000He says this, in Ohio, I spent 90 minutes on a drive to the airport with a retired Trump supporter.
01:00:01.000We were cordial to each other. We made jokes. We shared stories about our families.
01:00:04.000Neither of us changed our outlook. They'll never take my guns ever, he told me, explaining his Facebook feed was filled with articles about how Hillary Clinton and Democrats would kill the Second Amendment and steal his guns. Although he didn't like some of Mr. Trump's tones and comments, he didn't believe he was a racist in his heart. I'm not a cardiologist, so I wasn't qualified to challenge that. He says, I did my part.
01:02:20.000She tweeted out the other day, for many pro-Trump Americans, and she bleeps out Trump because it's a bad word, for many pro-Trump Americans, the pandemic is like the Holocaust to many Germans.
01:02:30.000They knew what was happening but adjusted to living with it in indifference or in some cases profiting from it.
01:02:34.000Only if affected personally do people seem to care.
01:02:37.000So if you are a Trump supporter, And you are disagreeing with Joyce Carol Oates on COVID response.
01:02:43.000It's because you're like a German ignoring the Holocaust.
01:02:46.000And then we're expected to trust these people?
01:02:48.000We're expected to trust that they have a good-hearted search for truth at heart?
01:03:15.000But when people pretend that they are arbiters of truth, and they only examine evidence in cases they want to examine evidence, and then they sneer at people who disagree with them, the predictable result is that people are going to react by disregarding everything they have to say, and saying, okay, you didn't require evidence for Stacey Abrams.
01:03:29.000You didn't require evidence for four years of Russian collusion bullcrappery.
01:03:33.000You didn't require five minutes of explanation of evidence for that sort of stuff, and we were put through four years of that, and now you expect me to respect your demands for evidence?
01:03:53.000Are you on the evidence side, or are you on the not evidence side?
01:03:56.000That is the real question, and that's true for everything.
01:03:58.000It's true for everything, from COVID policy, to election fraud, Okay.
01:04:02.000Well, before we break for the weekend, it's time for a little bit of Bible talk, because let's have some uplift going into the weekend.
01:04:08.000Okay, well before we break for the weekend, it's time for a little bit of Bible talk, because let's have some uplift going into the weekend.
01:04:16.000So this week, the Jews read a portion of the five books of Moses called Todok.
01:04:20.000This is the portion of the Bible that deals with the selling of the birthright from Esau to Jacob and also the blessing that Isaac gives to Jacob instead of Esau, the so-called stealing of the birthright in sort of common biblical parlance.
01:04:34.000And so for folks who don't know the story, Basically, Isaac, who of course is Abraham's son, he now has kids, and he has twins.
01:05:18.000As they get older, it becomes very clear that Esau spurns the birthright.
01:05:21.000He doesn't actually want the responsibilities of being the firstborn.
01:05:23.000And so, for literally a bowl of lentil soup, he sells his birthright to Jacob.
01:05:28.000What that really means is that, for any rationale whatsoever, he was willing to give away the responsibility of being the firstborn.
01:05:34.000But Isaac has not greenlit this, right?
01:05:36.000Their father has not actually greenlit this switcheroo.
01:05:39.000And Esau, it turns out, actually, he kind of spurns it, but at the same time, he still wants the benefits of the birthright without actually the responsibilities of the birthright.
01:05:46.000So this brings us to the critical scene in question, one of the most sort of puzzling parts of the Bible.
01:05:55.000It came to pass when Isaac was old, and his eyes were too dim to see, that he called Esau his elder son, and he said to him, my son, and he said to him, here I am.
01:06:01.000And he said, behold, now I have grown old, I do not know the day of my death.
01:06:04.000So now sharpen your implements, your sword and your bow, and go forth to the field and hunt game for me, and make for me tasty foods as I like, and bring them to me, and I will eat in order that my soul will bless you before I die.
01:06:14.000But Rebekah, who is Isaac's wife, overheard when Isaac spoke to Esau his son, and Esau went to the field to hunt game and to bring it.
01:06:20.000And Rebecca said to Jacob her son, saying, Behold, I have heard your father speaking to Esau your brother, saying, Bring me game, and make me tasty foods, and I will eat, and I will bless you before the Lord before my death.
01:06:29.000And now my son hearkens to my voice, to what I am commanding you.
01:06:32.000Go now to the flock, take for me from there two choice kids, I will make them tasty foods for your father as he likes, and you shall bring them to your father that he may eat, in order that he bless you before his death.
01:06:43.000And Jacob said to Rebekah, his mother, Behold, my brother Esau is a hairy man, whereas I am a smooth man.
01:06:47.000Perhaps my father will touch me, and I will appear to him as a deceiver, and I will bring upon myself a curse and not a blessing.
01:06:52.000And his mother said to him, On me is your curse, my son.
01:06:55.000Only hearken to my voice, and go, take them for me.
01:06:57.000So he went, and he took, and he brought them to his mother.
01:06:59.000And his mother made tasty foods, as his father liked.
01:07:01.000And Rebekah took the costly garments of Esau, her elder son, which were with her in the house, and she dressed Jacob, her younger son.
01:07:07.000And the hides of the kids she put on his hands and on the smoothness of his neck, right?
01:07:10.000So she actually takes hair and puts it on Jacob, so that he feels more like his older brother.
01:07:15.000He came to his father and he said, my father, and he said, here I am.
01:07:54.000And he said, serve it to me, I may eat of the game of my son, so my soul will bless you.
01:07:57.000He served him, he ate, he brought him wine, and he drank.
01:07:59.000And his father said, come closer and kiss me, right?
01:08:01.000He's constantly like, something, Isaac knows something is up, right?
01:08:04.000He's losing his sight, but he knows something is up.
01:08:05.000He came closer, he kissed him, he smelled like the fragrance of his garments.
01:08:08.000He blessed him, he said, behold, the fragrance of my son is like the fragrance of a field, which the Lord has blessed.
01:08:14.000Okay, and then the story continues with Jacob receiving the blessing, and Esau returns.
01:08:19.000And when Esau returns, he explains to Isaac what has happened, and Isaac shudders, and he says, When Esau heard his father's words, he cried out a great and bitter cry.
01:08:27.000it to me and I ate of everything while you had not yet come and I blessed him he too shall be blessed. When Esau heard his father's words he cried out a great and bitter cry said his father blessed me too oh my father he said your brother came with cunning and took your blessing and and so he doesn't reverse the So it's a really puzzling story, right?
01:08:43.000Because why wouldn't he reverse the blessing?
01:08:45.000If I give you a gift, but I do so under the false premise that you are another person, I can take that gift back.
01:08:52.000As it turns out, the Bible makes it sound like Isaac's on his deathbed.
01:08:55.000Isaac in the Bible lives like another two decades.
01:08:57.000At no point does he reverse his judgment and actually remove the blessing from Jacob, who lied to him, and give it back to Esau, who did not lie to him.
01:09:41.000And so Isaac has a choice to make, because he is now going to hand on his birthright, which means the future of the Hebrews, the future of the Jewish people, and in his view of his family and his civilization.
01:09:50.000Who's he going to hand that birthright to, to preserve the civilization?
01:09:53.000The survivor without morality, or the moral man without a survival instinct?
01:10:04.000Go out to the field, do something for me.
01:10:06.000Instead of just killing an animal and then eating it yourself or killing an animal for fun, go do something that demonstrates honor for a parent and then I will bless you because you will have merited the blessing because you're both a person capable of survival and you're a person who's capable of higher moral thinking.
01:10:22.000And Rebecca, his wife, hears this, and she says, well, I don't think that's right.
01:10:26.000I mean, I know Esau, I know Jacob, I know Esau is not a moral man, and I don't think he's going to develop a moral instinct.
01:10:31.000But I do think that Jacob is capable of developing a survival instinct.
01:10:36.000And so Jacob dons his brother's clothes, he puts on the hair on his hands and on his neck, and he goes and he meets with Isaac.
01:10:44.000And Isaac knows something is wrong, right?
01:10:46.000that sentence where he says, ha-kol kol Yaakov, right?
01:10:48.000The voice is the voice of Jacob, but the hands are the hands of Esau.
01:10:56.000He's saying, it doesn't matter which one of my sons this is, right?
01:10:59.000This is actually, as it turns out, what is happening.
01:11:01.000It doesn't matter which one of my sons I'm blessing.
01:11:03.000This is the son who deserves the blessing because either this is Esau who has grown a soul, or this is Jacob who's grown a spine.
01:11:09.000This is either Esau who's determined how to become a moral person because he's speaking in respectful ways to me and he's doing what I wanted him to do, or this is Jacob who has actually become a survivor, right?
01:11:20.000He's capable of doing the things necessary for survival in a cruel and unjust world.
01:11:26.000And so he decides that the future of his family line is better placed in the hands of the person who actually did all the things that were needed to be done.
01:11:36.000And that's why he doesn't reverse the blessing, even though he realizes what has happened at that point, right?
01:11:40.000His eyes are open and he realizes what has happened.
01:11:48.000But Esau had already given away the birthright once because he actually didn't want the responsibility.
01:11:51.000Jacob wanted the responsibility and Jacob was willing to do what it took in order to gain that responsibility, including an act of deception in order to demonstrate to his father that he was in fact capable of survival.
01:12:03.000And that's what it takes to live in the world.
01:12:35.000If the Kraken, the evidentiary Kraken is released, not just the allegations Kraken, the evidentiary Kraken is released, we'll bring you all of it next week.