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00:02:33.000What we've been watching for the past few weeks is the obvious mental breakdown of one of the most famous people on earth, Kanye West, who now wishes to be known as Ye.
00:02:42.000What we've been watching here is obviously a manic episode from a person who has been diagnosed with bipolar disorder.
00:02:50.000I've been saying this since the very beginning.
00:02:57.000Pretty obviously, there's no way to avoid that conclusion.
00:03:00.000The stuff that he's been ranting and raving over the past several weeks demonstrates that he doesn't just hate specific Jews, he hates the Jews.
00:03:06.000The Jews are the problem, according to Kanye West.
00:03:09.000He's been spewing der Sturmer Nazi-esque anti-Semitism for weeks, and last night on Alex Jones' show, he made that perfectly clear.
00:03:18.000It is also true that Kanye West is a person with bipolar disorder and this is a person in the middle of a manic episode because there is no other way to explain his behavior.
00:04:07.000Some people need prescription medication for that, but we tend to over-prescribe that.
00:04:10.000And we wildly Under serve people who have serious mental disorders ranging from bipolar disorder to schizophrenia, and we treat that as though it is normal behavior.
00:04:21.000And finally, while being mad, while being disturbed does not relieve you of responsibility for your Jew hatred, it does suggest that we ought to take the pronouncements of Ye West with a certain lack of seriousness because this is a person in the middle of an episode.
00:05:28.000Ye West, after his display over the past week particularly, Whatever you thought of him before, whether you thought that he was just an erratic personality who had decided to spew antisemitism, or whether you thought that he was perfectly rational, it is obvious over the course of the past several weeks that this is not the case and has not been the case for a while.
00:05:49.000Ranging from his tweet storm in which he talked about Chris Paul stooping his wife, To his defense of Balenciaga to the actual appearance on Alex Jones.
00:05:58.000The only reason I'm playing these clips is because it's important for people to recognize because I'm seeing a lot of people who are denying what we are seeing from Ye here is actual mental illness.
00:07:13.000So for all those people on the right who are saying, well, you know, yay, he's a good Christian who's just defending our honor.
00:07:18.000First of all, if this is your Christian lineup, right, if this is the best Western Christendom has to offer, is yay last night Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes?
00:07:25.000Western Christendom is in serious, serious trouble.
00:07:28.000This guy, yesterday, was defending the company that put out pedophilic ads.
00:07:37.000So he walks in and he sits down looking like this.
00:07:39.000For folks, again, who cannot see, he is sitting on the far left-hand side of the screen and he is wearing a very oversized baggy jacket and he is wearing a full-on black sock over his head.
00:07:50.000You cannot see his eyes, you cannot see his face, you cannot see anything about him except what looks like an eraser head.
00:07:56.000And then you've got Alex Jones in the middle and then you have Nick Fuentes on the end wearing some sort of blue hoodie, sweatshirt.
00:08:03.000Okay, so here's Alex Jones with Ye West yesterday.
00:08:08.000Well, that's right, you're not Hitler, you're not a Nazi, you don't deserve to be called that and demonized.
00:08:22.000I love everyone, and Jewish people are not going to tell me, you can love us, and you can love what we're doing to you with the contracts, and you can love what we're pushing with the pornography, but this guy that Especially Hitler.
00:08:40.000invented the very microphone that I use as a musician.
00:08:44.000You can't say out loud that this person ever did anything good, and I'm done with that.
00:09:00.000And now, coming out of a person who was not wearing a face covering mask, and who was not about to launch, sitting next to a copy of the Holy Bible, by the way.
00:09:14.000He's speaking just as Jesus would here.
00:09:33.000But I don't think that's the limit of it.
00:09:35.000As you can see, Alex Jones gets more and more uncomfortable here.
00:09:37.000And there is a certain perverse hilarity to the fact that Alex Jones is the moderate on the panel.
00:09:42.000And Alex Jones is suddenly Larry King here.
00:09:45.000But here's Alex Jones again trying to walk Ye West back from the Hitler support, the open Hitler support, and Ye just jumping into both feet.
00:10:14.000Except there's a person in the middle of a mental break.
00:10:16.000And I say that, again, advisedly, because I'm not here to pathologize people's evil.
00:10:21.000In fact, I prefer for people to take responsibility for their evil.
00:10:25.000This person is in the middle of a mental breakdown.
00:10:27.000And it's not just from that clip, or from his garb.
00:10:30.000It is from this clip, I mean, where he actively starts, he took out The Prime Minister of Israel is a person named Benjamin Netanyahu.
00:10:39.000Okay, Bibi Netanyahu, as he's called, his yay brought to the studio a small mat and a bottle of yoo-hoo.
00:10:49.000I'm not kidding you, like the chocolate milk, yoo-hoo.
00:10:52.000And he started trotting them around the table while doing the supposed voice of Benjamin Netanyahu, who he accused of attempting to kill him.
00:11:13.000You put them on TV, and suddenly we're supposed to treat it like celebrity behavior.
00:11:18.000We're supposed to treat every behavior by a celebrity as celebrity behavior, up until the point when they actually do something terrible to themselves.
00:11:24.000I mean, honestly, that's my great fear here for Ye West, is that if he is in the middle of a manic episode, the depression on the other side of the mania very often is coincident with the level of the mania.
00:11:35.000So if the mania is really high, the depression is really low.
00:11:37.000So I mean, I would not be surprised, God forbid, something should happen, that Ye should do something to himself, given his behavior.
00:11:44.000I mean, again, My grandfather was schizophrenic.
00:11:47.000I know what serious mental illness looks like.
00:11:49.000This is serious mental illness and we are watching it.
00:11:52.000And people are treating it for a variety of reasons as though it is not mentally ill behavior.
00:11:57.000You have some people on the left treating it as though it's not mentally ill behavior so that they can link Ye West's despicable views on Jews with Donald Trump and then Donald Trump by proxy to the entire Republican Party.
00:12:07.000You have some people in the media who are treating it not that way because they wish to make money off the ratings.
00:12:12.000I feel bad even talking about this a little bit at this point, given the fact that this is a disturbed individual.
00:12:19.000But again, I keep saying he's a disturbed individual because I want people to understand, number one, that the words he is saying make no sense.
00:12:30.000And I also would love for people to understand, who are defending EA West, that when you defend a person who is in the middle of a mental episode, you are not doing them any good.
00:12:40.000You are not adding value to the world.
00:13:41.000But what he really means is, you are crazy.
00:13:43.000When Alex Jones is calling you crazy, obviously, there is a problem.
00:13:48.000I mean, even Alex Jones, throughout the interview, again, the rich irony of this is that Alex Jones has finally been embarrassed by another human being.
00:13:54.000He's an embarrassing human being all on his own, and he was embarrassed by another human being here, being Ye.
00:13:59.000And you can actually see it on camera.
00:14:17.000So in case this is the last time you ever hear from me.
00:14:20.000I'm glad you guys are here and we can, we can, we can sit here and upset all I'm telling you is.
00:14:26.000Do you guys realize that the British government created Hitler, and the Milner group put him in power, and there's something much more sophisticated, and I personally think that most Jews are great people, and I understand there's a Jewish mafia, and they're used to demonize anybody that promotes freedom, but I don't blame Jews in general.
00:14:47.000Alex Jones trying to uh trying to walk back Jew hatred there.
00:14:51.000I know the Jews man and the British created Hitler but um most Jews are I mean like Alex Jones trying to play the moderate man.
00:14:59.000Okay so again, Yay West isn't I keep saying it over and over because I think that There are too many people out there who are pretending that it is not the case for a variety of reasons.
00:15:08.000Yesterday, Ye West tweeted out before being banned from Twitter, which we'll discuss in a moment, quote, I stand by Balenciaga and denounce all witch hunts and I cancel, cancel culture.
00:15:33.000So this person who is apparently standing against the anti-Christians out there is tweeting in favor of Balenciaga, which, as we discussed earlier this week, put out a full ad campaign with children carrying bears wearing bondage gear.
00:15:51.000Does this seem like calibrated behavior to you?
00:15:58.000This does raise some rather large scale questions about the treatment of actual disturbed behavior in American society.
00:16:04.000There's been a long time problem in American society with being able to label normal behavior and abnormal behavior.
00:16:10.000What you're seeing here is obviously abnormal, disturbed behavior.
00:16:13.000But American society, we've been, I think this is symptomatic of something greater.
00:16:17.000The fact that people have a tough time with this one, with labeling it, with actually recognizing what this is, is a symptom of a culture that, as I said earlier, really goes far too light on serious mental illness, in terms of attempting to treat it, and find it, and do something about it, and goes way too heavy on milder forms of depression, anxiety, and things that are actually treatable, but are not medicated, don't always need medication.
00:16:45.000And we both undertreat mental illness and we overtreat mental illness.
00:16:48.000We both over-label and we under-label.
00:16:50.000Some of this goes back all the way to the 1960s.
00:16:52.000There is a famous psychologist named Thomas Zaz who wrote a book back in the 1960s called The Myth of Mental Illness, in which he basically suggested that mental illness was itself a myth and it was all a form of sort of neurodiversity.
00:17:06.000And when you saw someone with schizophrenia, it wasn't somebody who had a serious condition who needed help.
00:17:10.000That was just another form of people acting in the world.
00:17:14.000Here's what Thomas Zaz talked about in terms of mental illness.
00:17:16.000And this is sort of a seminal point in how we treat mental illness in this country and how we see mental illness in this country.
00:17:21.000And this has some pretty widespread ramifications because now this is not just about yay.
00:17:25.000There are two major issues on the table.
00:17:27.000One is the anti-Semitism and the growing anti-Semitism in American society that unfortunately has been spreading on nearly all sides.
00:17:33.000Because they're, forget about Ye being mad, there are literally millions of people who agree with Ye and look at what he said and think, hmm, maybe there's something there.
00:17:43.000And that is that we are a society that is gradually growing more and more disturbed.
00:17:48.000We're seeing more and more disturbed behavior.
00:17:50.000From vast majorities of people suggesting that they are members of a sex that is not their own, to people who are delusionally violent.
00:18:01.000To the streets being taken over in places like Los Angeles by people who actually have drug abuse or mental illness problems.
00:18:07.000We're a society that has, because we are so radically individually autonomous, we have basically decided that all forms of behavior are not mentally disturbed behavior.
00:18:16.000There's no such thing as mentally disturbed behavior.
00:19:11.000They go to jail for drugs, and then they go to jail for the drugs they like to take, and then when they're in jail, they are forced to take the drugs they don't want to take.
00:19:22.000That in some ways characterizes the American drug scene today.
00:19:25.000The drugs people want to take are illegal, and the drugs they don't want to take, psychiatry forces on them.
00:19:32.000And the mental health profession does not complain about this.
00:19:39.000So the idea from Zaz, and this has been taken up, again this is a seminal work in sort of the history of American psychology and psychiatry, is that mental health care is mostly trying to control other people.
00:19:58.000When you watch somebody who is seriously disturbed, and again, we are watching this happen in real time with one of the biggest celebrities on the planet.
00:20:04.000When you watch that stuff happen, you are not doing anything sympathetic by pretending that this is just another aspect of autonomy.
00:20:13.000Behavior that is clearly not mentally well is being treated as mentally well.
00:20:18.000You see it in our celebrity culture all the time.
00:20:20.000Celebrities who melt down, and we pretend that their behavior is totally fine and totally normal, up until they attempt to commit suicide, and then we say, oh god, what happened to this person?
00:20:28.000And the answer is, well, all the signs were there.
00:20:31.000And then we have a society that also suggests that individual autonomy is so strong that when you see somebody displaying really, really disturbed behavior as a teenager, it doesn't get reported.
00:20:41.000Or if it does get reported, it gets ignored by law enforcement.
00:20:43.000And then people go and they shoot up a Walmart.
00:20:45.000If you want to treat mental health seriously, this is a completely bipartisan issue.
00:20:48.000If you want to treat mental health seriously, you must treat mental health seriously.
00:20:53.000Because you've seen the costs of this on a societal level.
00:20:57.000You've seen it in terms of rising homelessness violence in places like New York and LA.
00:21:02.000There's a reason why Eric Adams, the new mayor of New York, has now suggested you might need involuntary commitment of the mentally ill who are not threatening to others but are threatening to themselves.
00:21:11.000And you've seen it in terms of the broad societal acceptance of ideas that are simply false.
00:21:20.000Mainstreaming mental illness is not a good thing.
00:21:24.000And pretending that it doesn't exist is not a good thing.
00:21:27.000And again, there are two sides to every coin.
00:21:29.000At the same time, over-pathologizing what is in the realm of normal behavior is bad as well.
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00:23:50.000Okay, so meanwhile, Ye has been suspended from Twitter.
00:23:54.000This has been suspended from Twitter after this tweet storm last night that concluded with him tweeting out an image of the Jewish star, the Magen David, with a swastika inside, which is the most typical example of anti-Semitism.
00:24:06.000The anti-Semites, people who hate Jews, they have this very bizarre view of the Nazis.
00:24:12.000That the Jews are the Nazis, but also that the Nazis were good.
00:24:16.000The most extreme version of the anti-Semitic story.
00:24:18.000You see this a lot in the radical Muslim world.
00:24:21.000As you'll see, Zionism is Nazism, but also Hitler wasn't bad.
00:24:25.000It's weird to have it both ways that way.
00:24:27.000That Hitler was doing the right thing, but also the Jews are the new Hitler.
00:24:30.000But this is precisely what is argued by the world's worst anti-Semites.
00:24:33.000This is exactly what Ye was tweeting out amidst all the Holocaust denial last night.
00:24:49.000West's account then began displaying a message saying it was suspended with no tweets visible.
00:24:53.000Musk, who owns Twitter, has described himself as a free speech absolutist.
00:24:55.000He has said that Twitter generally should only intervene to comply with local laws.
00:25:00.000West's account had been restored before, right?
00:25:02.000Including after that tweet that said that he planned to go DEFCON 3 on Jewish people.
00:25:08.000Well, at a certain point here, he was asked, was Musk, about why he had banned Ye, he said it was incitement, and then somebody said, well, what about free speech?
00:25:19.000And he wrote FAFO, right, F Around and Find Out, essentially.
00:25:23.000Now, is what Ye is doing tantamount to incitement?
00:25:28.000I don't think so because I have a very strict legal standard for incitement.
00:25:30.000So do I think that Ye actually should be banned from Twitter?
00:25:35.000I don't think that Ye should be banned from Twitter.
00:25:37.000In fact, I think the more that Ye has exposed his own behavior, the less seriously people are likely to take his views.
00:25:43.000Because when you sit there doing weird Elmo voices, carrying a net and a bottle of Yoohoo, People tend to take you less seriously when you show up on Tim Pool with Milo Yiannopoulos and Nick Fuentes and Tim Pool simply asks you why you are slandering all Jews as opposed to just naming the Hollywood agents that you don't like and you get up and you walk out.
00:26:03.000Sunlight is a pretty good disinfectant here.
00:26:06.000Do I think that Ye is responsible for for actually inciting violence against people?
00:26:10.000Do I think he's raising the temperature radically?
00:26:42.000People who are treating him seriously for their own purposes are sick deviants.
00:26:46.000The people around him who are using a person who's in the middle of a breakdown for their own purposes are perverse and cynical.
00:26:52.000Members of the media who are trying to use a madman's comments to tie him to an entire side of the political spectrum.
00:26:59.000are well past their skis at this point.
00:27:02.000And also the rising problem of Jew hatred in American society is very, very real.
00:27:07.000And it exists, unfortunately, on all sides.
00:27:08.000I've talked about before extensively on the program.
00:27:11.000When you're talking about Jew hatred in American side, you're talking about multiple forces that are converging on a single point.
00:27:16.000So you have white supremacists who believe that Jews are undermining Christendom and that Jews are the problem in American side.
00:27:25.000That would be the Nick Fuentes category of Jew-hating anti-Semites.
00:27:29.000And then you have left-wing anti-Semites who suggest that Jews are essentially a conspiracy of power who are manipulating world forces in their own favor, right?
00:27:38.000The Jews are all the best capitalists.
00:29:01.000However, the question is not sort of how bad are things on an absolute level for Jews.
00:29:06.000The question is why the tide is rising in terms of anti-Semitism.
00:29:10.000And the answer typically is that a confident society, a society that believes in its own moral status, a society that doesn't feel threatened by minority groups that are successful within it, doesn't feel the need to target the Jews.
00:29:22.000When everything is coming apart at the seams, When madness is roaming free, and we talked about individual madness before in the context of the able, when we talk about societal madness, societal madness is a fragmented social psychology in which we can't agree on basic values at all.
00:29:38.000We don't share the same set of fact patterns.
00:29:46.000When that happens, As society tends to tear apart, as the social fabric is strained, and as those threads start to stretch, antisemitism starts seeping through.
00:29:57.000Because antisemitism, in the end, is a giant conspiracy theory about power in the world, and blaming it on a minority.
00:30:05.000And the minority, typically, is the Jews, for whatever reason.
00:30:08.000If you're a person of the Bible, you believe it's because this was said in the Bible.
00:30:11.000If you're not a person of the Bible, it would be because Jews are Very successful minorities.
00:30:16.000And you see this with other successful middlemen, what they call middlemen minorities.
00:30:20.000For example, ethnic Chinese in certain countries in East Asia.
00:30:24.000But in the West, it's typically been the Jews.
00:30:26.000And so when society starts to fragment, when society starts to come apart, when it doesn't have the confidence in itself that it used to have, when it doesn't have anything that's shared, typically all the guns turn on the Jews.
00:30:38.000And that's what we're starting to see on all sides.
00:30:42.000Anti-Semitism has also become a bit of a political football here.
00:30:45.000Meaning that what you will see is people condemning, on the right, anti-Semitism on the left.
00:30:50.000They're very happy to condemn Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib.
00:30:52.000But when it's coming from Nick Fuentes, or when it is coming from Ye West, or when it is coming from people on the right, Then all of a sudden it's like, well, you know, the left won't condemn anti-Semitism on their side, so why should we condemn anti-Semitism on ours?
00:31:08.000That is not the way that you condemn anti-Semitism.
00:31:11.000The ADL will be all over Donald Trump for having dinner with the A.U.S., but they'll have nothing to say about Nancy Pelosi doing a cover photo shoot with Ilhan Omar.
00:31:19.000They'll have nothing to say about Louis Farrakhan in the halls of Congress with members of the Congressional Black Caucus, historically speaking.
00:31:26.000I have nothing to say about that sort of stuff.
00:31:27.000Well, the answer is that if anti-Semitism is only, if Jew hatred is only something that you care about on your own side of the aisle, you don't care about Jew hatred.
00:31:36.000But we're going to have to come together over something in this country, because if we don't come together over something, we will come apart over everything.
00:31:43.000And that's what we're watching right now.
00:31:46.000Historically speaking, successful countries that are confident in their own values do not feel the necessity to go after the middlemen minorities.
00:31:53.000They don't feel the necessity to go after the Jews.
00:31:55.000All of the darkest powers in life are kept in check.
00:32:01.000And that's why you're seeing madness being treated as normalcy in the case of Ye West until it becomes so clear that he's got a Yoohoo bottle and a net and he's doing a weird voice on Alex Jones.
00:32:10.000And it's also why if you just shade it slightly, right?
00:32:13.000If you take what Ye is saying and you just shade it slightly, you rub off the rough edges, then suddenly it starts to look like a lot of crap that you see in the halls of academia in the United States.
00:32:21.000You see it coming from Berkeley professors.
00:32:23.000Not in the weird form of a guy who is wearing a black hoodie, like full-on face mask on his face, like a gimp mask on his face, but in the form of a highfalutin professor at a major Ivy League university.
00:32:35.000The sickness and cancer that is Jew hatred Yes, it's about Jews because it's targeting Jews, but really it's more about the society that allows Jew hatred to thrive.
00:32:45.000So we have a society that is allowing Jew hatred to continue and increase.
00:32:51.000Because of all these conspiracy theories from the far right and from the left and from everybody in between.
00:32:55.000When you start to see that, when you simultaneously see a society that has so little confidence in the very idea of individual mental normalcy, that we are absolutely unwilling to actually even say that somebody has a problem.
00:33:08.000And that that person's problem is a very serious problem.
00:33:10.000And the only time we ever say that somebody has a serious problem, by the way, is if they politically disagree with us, right?
00:33:16.000The only time that we'll ever say that, like, you'll see the left on the aisle, you know who's really mentally ill?
00:33:20.000That's a guy who's seriously mentally ill.
00:33:23.000When it comes to people on your own side of the aisle, you just go completely silent.
00:33:26.000When that is the kind of society that you are, that is so polarized around particular political narratives, that you can't call out clear violations of norms.
00:33:38.000And when there are no norms left to violate, And it turns out that everything breaks down incredibly quickly and things get very ugly, very, very fast.
00:33:45.000That's why I think you're seeing a lot of nervousness in American society from a lot of Jewish people right now.
00:33:52.000Because again, whether it is the New York Times downplaying anti-Semitic attacks in Williamsburg, or whether it is some people on the right pretending that there's not a rising tide of anti-Semitism on the very, very far right.
00:34:16.000And antisemitism is its most obvious symptom.
00:34:19.000In just one second, we'll get to LeBron James, who has some comments about Jerry Jones.
00:34:23.000First, as we've been talking about, antisemitism has been on the rise, not just in the United States, not just in Europe.
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00:35:28.000And in it, Jordan Peterson sits down with other scholars to read the book of Exodus and discuss what it means and why it remains significant thousands of years after it was written.
00:35:36.000Scholars at the table include Dennis Prager, Jonathan Pegeau, and many more.
00:35:39.000Episodes 1, 2, and 3 are available to stream right now.
00:35:42.000There will be new episodes releasing weekly.
00:35:55.000And so you might think you can bend the fabric of reality and that you can treat people instrumentally and that you can bow to the tyrant and violate your conscience without cost.
00:36:04.000It's going to call you out of that slavery into freedom, even if that pulls you into the desert.
00:36:13.000And we're going to see that there's something else going on here that is far more cosmic and deeper than what you can imagine.
00:36:20.000The highest ethical spirit to which we're beholden is presented precisely as that spirit that allies itself with the cause of freedom against tyranny.
00:36:41.000You have to be a member to watch so head on over to dailywire.com slash subscribe become a member watch Exodus today.
00:36:55.000Alrighty, so, meanwhile, LeBron James is very, very upset at the media.
00:37:00.000Why exactly is LeBron James upset at the media?
00:37:02.000Well, he's upset at the media because they didn't ask him questions about Jerry Jones.
00:37:07.000Now, what you ask, does Jerry Jones have to do with anything?
00:37:10.000Well, Jerry Jones is the owner of the Dallas Cowboys.
00:37:12.000And about a week ago, there was a report In the Washington Post, by David Marinus and Sally Jenkins, about Jerry Jones.
00:37:23.000And the report was that Jerry Jones, when he was 14 years old, was at North Little Rock High, so this is in 1957, because he was born in 1943.
00:37:34.000And he is standing a few yards from where six black students were being jostled and repelled with snarling racial slurs by ringleaders of a mob, again in Arkansas.
00:37:44.000At one point, a Black student named Richard Lindsay recalled someone in the crowd put a hand on the back of his neck.
00:37:48.000A voice behind him said, The Ruffian hostility succeeded in turning away the would-be new enrollees.
00:37:55.000The confrontation occurred 65 years ago.
00:37:57.000On September 9, 1957, during the same month, a higher-profile integration effort was taking place at Little Rock Central High in the capital city a few miles away.
00:38:04.000The story of the Little Rock Nine, when President Dwight D. Eisenhower dispatched federal troops to escort the trailblazing black students past the spitting hordes, is regarded as a pivotal moment in the civil rights movement.
00:38:13.000It overshadowed the ugly events unfolding contemporaneously at Jones' high school on the other side of the Arkansas River, an episode mostly lost to history, though not entirely.
00:38:20.000The photograph, taken by William Strader of the EAP, shows a young Jones wearing a striped shirt, craning for a better view, looking like a little burrhead, as he said in a recent interview with the Washington Post, acknowledging his presence on the steps that day.
00:38:34.000He showed up near the conflict epicenter, stationed on the top landing near the school's double-leaf entry doors, a face in a rear row of human bulwark intent on keeping people out because of the color of their skin.
00:38:43.000Jones said he was there only to watch, not participate.
00:38:45.000He said, I don't know that I or anybody anticipated or had a background of knowing what was involved.
00:38:50.000The photographs indicate Jones had to scurry around the North Little Rock Six to reach the top of the stairs before the black students completed their walk up the schoolhouse door.
00:38:57.000And while Jones offered a common explanation of the confrontation, that it was the work of older white supremacists, most of those surrounding the six young black men were teenagers.
00:39:06.000Okay, so if you actually look at the picture, what you will see is a bunch of guys who look like they are ranging in age from maybe 17 to 30 surrounding these black students and jostling them.
00:39:20.000And then in the very back of the crowd, you can see Jerry Jones as a 14 year old looking on curiously.
00:39:27.000Okay, so what does this have to do with LeBron James?
00:39:28.000Well, LeBron James has been asked repeatedly about Kyrie Irving.
00:39:32.000And the reason he's been asked about Kyrie Irving is because Kyrie Irving tweeted out a video from Amazon that was distributed on Amazon that was a Holocaust-denying, bizarre black Hebrew-Israelite conspiracy theory about how the blacks are the real Jews and all the rest of this, and this ended with an overwrought suspension from the NBA for Kyrie Irving.
00:39:49.000As a general matter, I believe that sports leagues should not be suspending members of the league based on their viewpoint, largely because I think that they sometimes get it wrong.
00:39:58.000And almost always, it allows people like me to say, wait, hold up, half your league is using cocaine and nailing prostitutes.
00:40:06.000But this guy tweeted out a video from Amazon, like, I'm not sure exactly what your standards are.
00:40:14.000The standards are really, really bizarre.
00:40:17.000Anyway, LeBron James was asked about that, but one of the reasons that he was asked about that is because he sort of came out in quasi-defense of Kyrie Irving, and that had followed his own history of anti-Semitic comments.
00:40:24.000He had tweeted out before statements about Jew money and all the rest.
00:40:29.000So, LeBron James is going to use this as an opportunity to go after the media.
00:40:32.000LeBron James is going to say, why isn't the media asking me about Jerry Jones?
00:40:36.000Well, maybe the reason the media is not asking about Jerry Jones is because Jerry Jones was 14 years old in 1957 and the story is 65 years old in a sport that is not your own.
00:40:45.000And you have been particularly hesitant to call out causes in which you are directly involved or leagues in which you are directly involved with your friends.
00:40:53.000But according to LeBron James, obviously it's media racism.
00:40:57.000I was wondering why I haven't gotten a question from you guys about the Jerry Jones photo.
00:41:03.000But when the Kyrie thing was going on, you guys were quick to ask us questions about that.
00:41:07.000As a black man, as a black athlete, as someone with power and a platform, when we do something wrong or something that people don't agree with, it's on every single tabloid, every single news coverage, it's on the bottom ticker, it's asked about every single day.
00:41:31.000But it seems like to me that the whole Jerry Jones situation photo, and I know it was years and years ago and we all make mistakes, I get it.
00:41:39.000But it seems like it's just been buried under like, oh it happened, okay we just, we just move on.
00:41:47.000Well, I mean, just to be clear, the story itself says that Jerry Jones was 14 years old.
00:41:53.000The basic rule is that if you're under, say, 17 years of age, and the event happened 60 plus years ago, and there was no actual criminal activity, and it's a picture of you, that's not much of a story.
00:42:06.000I'm sorry to say that, but you can't even attribute full motive to Jerry Jones when he is 14 years old, standing at the back of a crowd looking on at an incident that's happening at his school.
00:42:15.000Have you ever met a 14 year old kid going to a high school?
00:42:19.000If there's like a shiny light, all the kids run around.
00:42:22.000But in any case, there's no way to actually attribute that action to Jerry Jones, but LeBron is very exercised over the fact that he wasn't asked about the Jerry Jones photo, but he was asked about Kyrie.
00:42:31.000Well, maybe it's because LeBron James has sounded off on pretty much every topic.
00:42:34.000He doesn't need to be asked about Jerry Jones.
00:42:37.000He won't sound off about Chinese human rights violations because he's getting paid too much money by China.
00:42:43.000He'll sound off about how America is terrible, how America is racist and horrible, but he'll go completely silent when it comes to anti-Semitic nonsense from members of his own league.
00:42:53.000But again, the idea here in the sports world is that everybody is racist.
00:43:00.000I guess the same people who are paying you hundreds of millions.
00:43:02.000I mean, LeBron James is a billionaire.
00:43:05.000The same people who are paying you tons and tons of money to watch you play sports are somehow racist because they didn't ask you about Jerry Jones.
00:44:26.000And then when it comes to other forms of bigotry, say, for example, official bigotry against Asians at major American schools, that we just ignore.
00:44:32.000When it comes to the uptick in anti-Semitism, depending upon who the source of the anti-Semitism is, we just kind of look the other way on that sort of stuff.
00:44:40.000So if this is the best that LeBron can do, again, LeBron has never even really seriously been asked about his own viewpoints.
00:44:50.000All of this is obviously very tiring and destructive to the American fabric, but that is sort of the norm of the day.
00:44:59.000As long as I'm criticizing the media, I do have to give the rare shout out to Don Lemon, who actually said the correct thing the other day.
00:45:04.000So Don Lemon was on CNN, and he actually defended higher pay for men at the World Cup, which, shocker, I'm broken clock here, getting it right twice a day.
00:45:13.000But not everybody, honestly, has the same skill.
00:45:16.000Not everybody has the same interest in the sport.
00:45:19.000I think the women should be paid more.
00:45:21.000But if the men... You're right that not everyone has the same skills, because the women are better skilled.
00:45:25.000Well, the women are better skilled against other women.
00:45:28.000But if the women played the men, they wouldn't be winning.
00:45:31.000the way that they win. Okay, I'm not going to get into that.
00:45:36.000I'm just saying if the sport makes more money, that means there's more money available. Why does it make more money?
00:45:41.000Because people are more interested in it. No, because they see it. When I go to a sports bar, guys, am I wrong? You guys don't want to say anything. When I go to a sports bar, if there is a woman's basketball game on, I'm just being honest. Which is on air less.
00:45:52.000People will say, can you flip it to the guys? I don't want to watch this. I'm just telling you.
00:45:58.000Wow, Don Lemon spilling some truth, saying the T on CNN.