The Ben Shapiro Show - January 09, 2020


The Revisionist History Begins | Ep. 928


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58 minutes

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212.82504

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12,468

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808

Misogynist Sentences

29

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27


Summary

As it becomes clear Iran has backed away from conflict, the media seek a new spin, Joy Behar and the crowd at The View discover they actually like neo-Nazi Richard Spencer, and Mitch McConnell vows not to take advice from Nancy Pelosi. Ben Shapiro explains why this is a huge win for the Trump administration and why the media should not have been so blinded by their obsession with Barack Obama and the idea that he was a magical man who could get Iran to give up their nukes and all of their terrorist activities. Iran is now on notice that there are lines, and if they cross them, there will be consequences. The media have been completely and utterly exposed, and now they need to come up with an alternative explanation for how things just went so right for Donald Trump. Ben Shapiro is the host of The Ben Shapiro Show on Fox News and host of the Daily Show with Bill Maher. He is a regular contributor to CNN and the New York Times, and is a frequent contributor to the Financial Times. The Weekly Standard, The Daily Wire, and the Wall Street Journal. He is the author of several books, including the best-selling author of the book, The Dark Side of the Middle East: A Guide to the Arab World, and has been featured on CNN, CBS Radio, NPR, and NPR. and many other publications, including The Hill, among other publications. His work has been widely syndicated throughout the past 20 years, including Playboy, The Huffington Post, and The New York Magazine, The Hollywood Reporter, and Rolling Stone, The Atlantic, USA Today, and Playboy, and Teen Vogue. . He is also a regular on the streets of New York, and has a new book out soon coming in the new paperback, The Independent, and many others. Check out Ben Shapiro s new podcast, . The Daily Mail, The Weekly Beast, The Financial Times, The Economist, and much more! - Ben Shapiro's new book is out now on the road, out in paperback edition, out soon, out on Nov. 22, The Besties, The Other Way, out now! The Devil Next Door, Outtro is out in the world? on November 6, 2019. Subscribe to his new book, The Devil in Tehran, by Ben Shapiro. by Join Ben Shapiro on his podcast, Ben Shapiro, on his website, and on The View on The View


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00:00:00.000 As it becomes clear Iran backed away from conflict, the media seek a new spin.
00:00:04.000 Joy Behar and the crowd at The View discover they actually like neo-Nazi Richard Spencer, and Mitch McConnell vows not to take advice from Nancy Pelosi.
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00:00:24.000 Well, the last 72 hours, literally the last week, has been a major win for the Trump administration.
00:00:29.000 Why?
00:00:30.000 Because as I have been stating, ever since Soleimani was killed, the Trump administration has re-established a long forgotten doctrine known as deterrence.
00:00:38.000 And it's amazing to watch people in the media, all of the talking heads, all of the wonks, tell you that deterrence is something that doesn't exist, could never have existed with Iran.
00:00:45.000 All of that predicated on their worship for Barack Obama, who was a magical, magical man.
00:00:50.000 In their view, the way this worked is that President Barack Obama had done something magical.
00:00:54.000 He had basically converted Iran into Sweden.
00:00:56.000 All he had to do was sign a few checks to the mullahs, and then they would abandon their nuclear program, not just for the 10 years specified by contract, but for all time.
00:01:05.000 And as for the terrorism and the ballistic missile testing and the development of terrorist groups all around the region and the interference in Iraq and Lebanon and Syria and Saudi Arabia and Yemen, all of that, well, we would just ignore that because Barack Obama had done something magical.
00:01:19.000 And Barack Obama's narrative had always been, They either sign a check to the Mullahs or, alternatively, that you go to war with them.
00:01:25.000 Those were the only two alternatives.
00:01:26.000 There was no third alternative.
00:01:28.000 And then Donald Trump came along and he said, you know what?
00:01:30.000 There's this thing that we used to do here.
00:01:32.000 It's called deterrence.
00:01:33.000 Deterrence.
00:01:34.000 And this works for Trump.
00:01:35.000 Trump doesn't have to understand the totality of deterrence theory because the theory is really quite simple.
00:01:41.000 And Trump gets it because he gets it in most areas of his own life, which is you threaten somebody with something worse than they are threatening you with, right?
00:01:47.000 They threaten you that they are going to bring a knife, you threaten to bring a gun, right?
00:01:51.000 It's the Chicago way.
00:01:52.000 Trump at least gets that much.
00:01:54.000 And so when it came to Soleimani, basically the Iranians kept upping the ante, upping the ante, and Trump kept ignoring it because he did not want a conflict in the Middle East.
00:02:01.000 He's the only president of my lifetime who has not been in an overt shooting war in the Middle East.
00:02:06.000 And the president of the United States finally had had enough and he said, okay, you tried to burn our embassy.
00:02:11.000 We're going to take out your big bad terrorists, Soleimani, Qasem Soleimani.
00:02:15.000 And the media said, oh, well, war is now inevitable.
00:02:17.000 Now we're going to have World War Three.
00:02:19.000 And Trump was like, well, not really.
00:02:21.000 Not so much.
00:02:23.000 This is called deterrence.
00:02:24.000 The Iranians are now on notice that there are such things as lines.
00:02:26.000 And if you cross those lines, there will be consequences.
00:02:29.000 And this gave the lie to the media's coverage of Barack Obama.
00:02:32.000 Obama was exposed, but he'd been exposed already.
00:02:34.000 I mean, the Iranians were getting more and more militant.
00:02:37.000 Even in the aftermath of the nuclear deal, the nuclear deal was signed in 2013.
00:02:40.000 The nominee for U.S.
00:02:42.000 CENTCOM by the Obama administration said in March 2016 that the Iranians had actually become more aggressive in the wake of the Iran nuclear deal because they had more money to play with and they knew that the only thing the West cared about was the nuclear weapons development, not the expansion of terrorism and terror growth around the region.
00:02:58.000 So the media had Barack Obama had already been exposed by events, but the media had not been exposed.
00:03:03.000 The media could continue to propagate the lies that have been fed to them by Ben Rose, who then went out and bragged about how he lied to the media and how they had formed an echo chamber on his behalf.
00:03:12.000 Well, now that Donald Trump has shown over the last 72 hours That the laws of political gravity did not cease to apply with Barack Obama.
00:03:19.000 That there is such a thing in foreign relations as actual deterrence.
00:03:22.000 The media have been completely and utterly exposed for the fools that they are, and what this has created is a need for the media to now defend their flank.
00:03:29.000 The media now need to come up with an alternative explanation for how things just went so right.
00:03:33.000 For Donald Trump, that Soleimani is dead, and the Iranians were so cowed that you are seeing the PMF, the terror group that was responsible for the attempted burning of the U.S.
00:03:42.000 Embassy in Baghdad, basically backing off.
00:03:45.000 There are open calls by people like Muqtada al-Sadr, who is the leader of Shia Muslims in Iraq.
00:03:52.000 There are calls by him for the PMF to disband as a functioning entity.
00:03:55.000 I mean, all of that is a result of Donald Trump using some deterrence.
00:04:00.000 And so the media have to come up with an alternative explanation.
00:04:02.000 And as we'll see, their alternative explanation is that Donald Trump continues to be a nut and a very stupid nut, and that we ought to trust the Ayatollahs, and we ought to trust Barack Obama, and we ought to trust them.
00:04:12.000 And so what they're doing now is they're talking up the possibility of war, even though it is absolutely clear at this point that Iran has backed away from the war.
00:04:19.000 Again, there was another report today that the Iranians had basically warned the Iraqis.
00:04:23.000 The administration's denying this, as they should.
00:04:25.000 I mean, they should deny this because the fact is that If the Iranians were trying to save face, then suggesting to the world that the Iranians called up the United States and said, guys, get your guys out of there because we just need to save face here.
00:04:36.000 If the U.S.
00:04:37.000 were to spill that on the world stage, then that would necessitate more Iranian action, presumably.
00:04:41.000 So the U.S.
00:04:41.000 basically saying, yeah, no, they meant to harm us.
00:04:44.000 They just weren't able to do so.
00:04:45.000 It's a better line than, yeah, the Iranians completely chickened out and they called us and told us to get our guys out of the way so that they could save a little bit of face.
00:04:53.000 That's what Mike Pence was saying today, for example, that this was a strike that was meant to kill and we just had this great early warning system.
00:04:59.000 Count me a little skeptical on that point, but the media continue to play up the possibility of war because they just can't accept the fact that Iran has always been violent, that the possibility of war that existed six months ago, existed three years ago, existed eight years ago, existed 20 years ago, and will continue to exist years from now, but that it has not been heightened by the United States taking a hardline position.
00:05:18.000 In fact, it has been decreased in terms of intensity and possibility of scope.
00:05:23.000 By the fact that they've been deterred from future action.
00:05:26.000 Like, Iran hasn't changed its regional orientation.
00:05:28.000 And the United States has not changed its regional orientation.
00:05:31.000 The difference is that Iran knows it can't get away with as much, and so they are going to scale back some of their more overt terror activity.
00:05:37.000 Doesn't mean the problem is solved.
00:05:39.000 It does mean that Donald Trump has backed them off of a lot of the activities that they were pursuing that were getting more and more overtly aggressive.
00:05:45.000 Still, the media are going to play up the possibility that we're still at war.
00:05:49.000 Right now, we are still in danger of launching into an immediate full-scale war.
00:05:53.000 And so you get articles like this from the Associated Press.
00:05:56.000 The U.S.
00:05:56.000 and Iran step back from the brink of possible war on Wednesday as President Donald Trump signaled he would not retaliate militarily for Iran's missile strikes on Iraqi bases housing U.S.
00:06:05.000 No one was harmed in the strikes, but the U.S.
00:06:05.000 troops.
00:06:07.000 forces in the region remained on high alert.
00:06:09.000 Speaking from the White House, Trump seemed intent on de-escalating the crisis, which spiraled after he authorized the targeted killing last week of Iran's top general, Qasem Soleimani.
00:06:17.000 Did it spiral after that or was it, you know, like the burning of the embassy, the shooting down of the American drone, the destruction of Saudi oil facilities, the bombing of ships in the Strait of Hormuz?
00:06:26.000 According to the media, it's always about Trump because the world began- Trump is like gods to these people.
00:06:30.000 Or the devil.
00:06:31.000 The world began spinning as soon as he spake the words.
00:06:34.000 We'll get to more of the media's malfeasance on all of this momentarily.
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00:08:12.000 So, the AP is already talking up the possibility of further wide-scale conflict, which is really not in the offing.
00:08:19.000 It will be low-level conflict, as it was before.
00:08:21.000 According to the AP, though, despite such conciliatory talk, the region remained on edge.
00:08:25.000 American troops, including a quick reaction force dispatched over the weekend, were on high alert.
00:08:29.000 Well, that makes sense.
00:08:29.000 I mean, you're going to want to continue to be on high alert, but the idea that we're going to full-scale war now is, I think, Pretty much off the table since the Iranians really backed down.
00:08:38.000 What's hilarious, and we'll get to the media response in a second, is that the House Democrats, in an attempt to backfill a hole that they dug for themselves, right?
00:08:46.000 We were in the middle of World War III, according to the Democrats.
00:08:49.000 Trump had brought us to the brink of World War III.
00:08:51.000 Everyone was going to go die.
00:08:53.000 Stockpile food.
00:08:54.000 Get your food, get your water, make sure you got your water purification tablets.
00:08:57.000 I mean, it was just going to be a mess.
00:08:59.000 Zombies in the streets, chaos everywhere, dogs and cats sleeping together.
00:09:03.000 It was going to be insane.
00:09:04.000 This was the Democratic narrative.
00:09:05.000 And then none of that happened.
00:09:06.000 Iran just backed down, which is what smaller countries do when faced with the greatest military fighting force in the history of the world, as it turns out.
00:09:13.000 So now Nancy Pelosi and the members of the House are trying to backfill that and make Trump look like a bad guy, even though Trump won this round.
00:09:20.000 He did.
00:09:21.000 The United States won this round.
00:09:24.000 So, what are House Democrats doing?
00:09:25.000 Well now, House Democrats emerged yesterday from a classified briefing on Wednesday, deeply skeptical of President Donald Trump's decision to order the killing of a top Iranian leader, and unconvinced he posed an imminent threat to the United States.
00:09:36.000 Okay, first of all, the definition of imminent threat I think needs to be assessed here.
00:09:41.000 So what you're seeing in the media is imminent threat means we had a very specific knowledge of the specific plan that the specific terrorist was engaged in and thus we had to kill him because tomorrow he was going to do something.
00:09:52.000 The Trump administration used the word imminent in sort of a broader sense.
00:09:55.000 I think the sense that most of us use imminent when we talk about terrorism.
00:09:58.000 In other words, were there working plans in place to harm America and her interests?
00:10:02.000 When it comes to Soleimani, that was basically his day job.
00:10:03.000 This is like asking, as Noah Rothman at Commentary Magazine put it, whether at Dunkin' Donuts they're preparing to make donuts that day.
00:10:09.000 That's what Soleimani did for a living.
00:10:11.000 Soleimani's job was to plan terror attacks.
00:10:13.000 That's why Mike Pompeo, the Secretary of State, when asked about imminence, he said, well, I mean, last week they burned our embassy, and the week before that they were shooting rockets at our bases, so it seems like a pretty good bet that he was not going to suddenly turn into a monk and go live at a monastery.
00:10:28.000 Well heard the congressman from Texas, who in fact has been rather Trump skeptical.
00:10:32.000 He came out, he said, I think that an attack from Soleimani was imminent because that's literally what the man did.
00:10:39.000 Are you convinced that an attack from Soleimani was imminent against Americans?
00:10:45.000 I do.
00:10:46.000 You had some very sophisticated consumers of intelligence that talked about how credible this information was.
00:10:52.000 There was a level of specificity.
00:10:55.000 But I could go even further beyond this immediate threat.
00:10:58.000 Qasem Soleimani has been a threat, an acute threat to the United States for a very long time.
00:11:04.000 And taking him off the battlefield has had a significant impact.
00:11:08.000 It showed the Iranian regime that there's going to be consequences to their What exactly was Osama Bin Laden's imminent threat when he was killed?
00:11:19.000 The answer is probably not much because he was essentially isolated in his compound in Pakistan.
00:11:23.000 Does that mean it was illegal for the United States to kill him?
00:11:25.000 Absolutely not.
00:11:26.000 Yet House Democrats are now trying to complain that it was illegal.
00:11:29.000 What's the purpose of this?
00:11:30.000 Seriously, what's the purpose?
00:11:31.000 The same House Democrats who cheered when Barack Obama violated the War Powers Resolution.
00:11:36.000 They cheered.
00:11:37.000 He literally started a war in Libya and then just stayed there.
00:11:39.000 He killed Muammar Gaddafi for no apparent reason.
00:11:43.000 Truly, no apparent reason other than his belief that Qaddafi was engaged in human rights violations.
00:11:47.000 But Qaddafi at that point was funneling us information.
00:11:49.000 Qaddafi had been neutralized as a threat to the West, and the war in Libya ended with vast swathes of refugees entering Europe.
00:11:55.000 It ended with the burning of the American embassy in Benghazi.
00:11:58.000 It ended with the provisional government of Libya having to try to govern with no available forces from boats offshore.
00:12:05.000 It was a complete disaster, the war in Libya.
00:12:07.000 The Obama administration pushed it anyway to the cheers of Nancy Pelosi.
00:12:10.000 Now Nancy Pelosi is like, well, we need to restrict the president's ability to strike at Iran.
00:12:15.000 Now, listen, on a principled level, should the president of the United States have the kind of war-making authority that he has been granted over the last several decades?
00:12:22.000 The answer is no.
00:12:23.000 The Constitution of the United States declares that Congress should have the authority to declare war.
00:12:28.000 The president of the United States must have the ability to respond quickly to threats because you don't have time to just get a session of Congress together when there's a terrorist attacking you to kill a terrorist, for example.
00:12:38.000 So even under the most, I think, strict circumstances, it would be difficult to argue that it's unconstitutional for Trump to shoot a missile at Soleimani.
00:12:45.000 But For broader sort of engagements, the idea that you need congressional approval makes a lot of sense.
00:12:51.000 I mean, the fact is that the Congress of the United States has basically been rendered a vestigial organ when it comes to the declaration of war.
00:12:58.000 In the 1970s, I think it was 1973, the War Powers Resolution was brought to the fore that suggests that the President of the United States can get involved in foreign wars, basically for a period of, I believe, 60 days under the War Powers Act.
00:13:09.000 And then he has to go to Congress for reauthorization.
00:13:12.000 It has basically been ignored ever since.
00:13:14.000 The United States has not had a single declared war, formally declared war since World War II.
00:13:18.000 The Vietnam War was not a declared war.
00:13:21.000 The Gulf War was not a declared war.
00:13:22.000 Gulf War II was not a declared war.
00:13:24.000 There was an authorization for use of military force that was passed by Congress in the aftermath of September 11th.
00:13:28.000 The interpretation of that document has been widely variant.
00:13:31.000 Did it cover Iraq?
00:13:32.000 Unclear.
00:13:32.000 Did it cover activities outside the Afghanistan sphere?
00:13:35.000 Probably.
00:13:36.000 How far did it go?
00:13:37.000 Not clear.
00:13:38.000 Does it cover what's going on right now in Iraq or Iran?
00:13:41.000 You know, 20 years later?
00:13:42.000 Unclear.
00:13:42.000 So the idea that Congress should seize back some of its war-making authority under the Constitution, I actually am very much in favor of, simply because I think that when a Democrat is in power, it would be better if Congress were able to check the power of any president.
00:13:54.000 I'm not in favor of the broad expansion of executive authority, but what I'm saying here is that the House Democrats picked a very weird hill to die on, that now all of a sudden it's, well, Trump has challenged congressional authority.
00:14:05.000 By any standard, what Trump did to Soleimani is so much less than anything that Barack Obama did for eight years, droning America.
00:14:12.000 Anwar al-Awlaki, who was a terrorist, was also an American citizen.
00:14:15.000 Obama droned him.
00:14:17.000 And you'll remember that Rand Paul got up and did a filibuster over that drone attack, saying, well, that guy's still an American citizen.
00:14:24.000 You don't just get to drone him.
00:14:25.000 They can think that Rand Paul is wrong, but the suggestion that Trump droning an Iranian terrorist who was in Iraq planning terror attacks.
00:14:32.000 That's why he was there.
00:14:33.000 I mean, he was literally meeting with the head of the PMF.
00:14:35.000 They were in the same car.
00:14:36.000 That's why they're both dead today.
00:14:38.000 The idea that that is a violation of presidential authority, but Barack Obama for eight long years was not violating executive authority in launching undeclared wars in Libya, a full-scale drone war across Africa and the Middle East.
00:14:50.000 You're gonna have to explain that one to me, Democrats.
00:14:51.000 Democrats don't have an explanation.
00:14:53.000 It really is not driven by any real principle.
00:14:55.000 All this is driven by is anger that President Trump showed them up because that's all that happened here.
00:15:00.000 Remember, they didn't try to press this resolution in the aftermath of Trump firing a missile into Syria after Syria gassed some of its own citizens again.
00:15:08.000 They didn't try anything like this.
00:15:09.000 Why?
00:15:10.000 Because Obama had done exactly the same thing with Syria except less.
00:15:13.000 Here, the problem was that Trump humiliated Obama, he humiliated the Democrats, and now they're going to seize back congressional authority, supposedly, under the auspices that Soleimani was not an imminent threat.
00:15:26.000 You really are going to have to explain why it was illegal or bad to kill Soleimani.
00:15:29.000 You're really going to need to explain that before you start discussing how Trump did a very bad thing.
00:15:35.000 And this is why you're going to hear in a moment, I'm going to distinguish between some of the right-wing conservative opposition to executive authority coming from people like Mike Lee, and to a certain extent Rand Paul, and the left wing.
00:15:46.000 anger at executive authority, which is coming purely from a place of, we hate Donald Trump, we don't like that he humiliated Barack Obama, and now we are going to check the executive authority.
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00:17:12.000 Okay, so Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday announced that the House would vote on Thursday to limit Trump's war-making powers, likely presenting a united democratic front against the administration's recent moves against Iran.
00:17:22.000 So they are now opposing the moves that box in Iran.
00:17:25.000 This is now the formal democratic position, not that they have a general objection, the way that Mike Lee does, to executive authority, but that they have a specific objection to what Trump just did in Iran, which is insane because this is the most successful foreign policy move since really Maybe the end of the Reagan administration, but certainly since since Gulf War one, the bottom line to this is that Iran was backed off of its aggression.
00:17:49.000 They were backed off and they lost their top commander.
00:17:52.000 They lost their top terror commander, who was by all accounts the most effective person in In Iran.
00:17:58.000 And the Democrats are angry about it.
00:18:00.000 They're upset about it.
00:18:01.000 Why?
00:18:01.000 Again, not because they believe that the congressional authority has been violated.
00:18:05.000 Barack Obama did it routinely.
00:18:06.000 The reason they're upset is because Donald Trump gave the lie to the Obama administration's lie, and now they've been exposed.
00:18:11.000 So here's Nancy Pelosi saying, we're going to vote on a War Powers resolution.
00:18:17.000 Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, putting out a statement moments ago saying that a War Powers Resolution will be voted on in the House tomorrow.
00:18:28.000 A War Powers Resolution, she says, to, quote, limit the President's military actions regarding Iran.
00:18:36.000 And this legislation is going to the Rules Committee and, she says, will be voted on tomorrow in the House.
00:18:43.000 Okay, I know that we're all ignoring the fact that the Iranians tried to burn our embassy in Baghdad last week, but imagine the kind of insanity it takes to hate Trump so much that the Iranians burn an American embassy?
00:18:55.000 And your first move is we've got to limit the president from retaliating.
00:18:58.000 We have to limit the president from responding.
00:19:00.000 Again, not coming from a place of principled opposition to executive use of commander-in-chief power, but coming from we just don't like that Trump has exposed our entire ideology on foreign policy.
00:19:11.000 And the way Politico reports this is just ridiculous.
00:19:13.000 Lawmakers from across the House Democratic Caucus left a closed-door meeting with top Trump administration officials in a secure room in the Capitol on Wednesday frustrated If not outright angry at what they described as a vague justification for last week's deadly drone strike that killed Iranian Major General Qasem Soleimani shortly after he arrived in Baghdad.
00:19:30.000 So they're angry that we killed Soleimani?
00:19:32.000 They're angry at the justification, which is that he was involved in the burning of the United States Embassy last week?
00:19:38.000 This is what they are angry at?
00:19:40.000 Seriously?
00:19:42.000 Pramila Jayapal, Democrat of Washington and co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, which is, she's kind of an adjunct member of the squad.
00:19:49.000 She says, there was no raw evidence presented that this was an imminent threat.
00:19:53.000 Okay, so he's only a non-imminent threat, meaning that, I guess two weeks from now, he was going to murder Americans, but we didn't know if he was going to murder Americans, like specifically tomorrow.
00:20:00.000 Here is Jayapal announcing that Trump recklessly assassinated Soleimani.
00:20:05.000 I mean, this is doing the PR work of the Iranians.
00:20:09.000 This is the result of reckless actions by President Trump of military brinksmanship.
00:20:15.000 President Trump recklessly assassinated Qasem Soleimani.
00:20:19.000 He had no evidence of an imminent threat or attack.
00:20:23.000 And we say that coming from a classified briefing where, again, there was no raw evidence presented that there was an imminent threat.
00:20:32.000 Okay, again, I'm gonna need to know whether any of these Democrats asked for the raw classified information that led to the death of Anwar al-Awlaki.
00:20:40.000 What was the imminent threat from Anwar al-Awlaki?
00:20:42.000 What was the imminent threat from Osama bin Laden for that matter?
00:20:44.000 It turns out that killing terrorists is authorized under the Authorization to Use Military Force.
00:20:49.000 That is pretty much the only thing that is authorized under the AUMF that was passed in the aftermath of 9-11.
00:20:54.000 And what this really is about is Democrats being upset that Donald Trump did a thing that they don't like, that exposed their entire ideology.
00:21:00.000 That's why you have Jerry Connolly out there going, this briefing was entirely unconvincing.
00:21:04.000 Okay, like, again, where were you when Barack Obama was declaring war in Libya without any congressional authorization, then ignoring congressional blowback?
00:21:13.000 My reaction to this briefing was it was sophomoric and utterly unconvincing.
00:21:19.000 And I believe more than ever, the Congress needs to act to protect the constitutional provisions about war and peace.
00:21:27.000 There was no rationale that could pass a graduate school thesis test.
00:21:38.000 I was, well, utterly unpersuaded about any evidence about the imminence of a threat that was new or compelling.
00:21:51.000 Okay, well, even if that had been presented, do you really think the Democrats would be out there today saying, well, I guess that was new and compelling.
00:21:56.000 I guess that everything is fine now.
00:21:57.000 Do you really think that that's the case?
00:21:59.000 Because I really don't think that that is the case.
00:22:01.000 Mitch McConnell, for his part, was slamming Nancy Pelosi over all of this.
00:22:04.000 And he's exactly right to do so.
00:22:07.000 It's troubled me that Speaker Pelosi responded to the earliest reports yesterday by leaping to blame, quote, needless provocations by our administration.
00:22:18.000 In other words, blaming the United States.
00:22:22.000 So let's be clear, we can and should debate how to responsibly respond to Iranian threats, but the notion, the notion that our administration is to blame for Iranian aggression Mr. President, that's nonsense.
00:22:40.000 Utter nonsense.
00:22:41.000 Well, of course it is nonsense.
00:22:42.000 And again, the fact that Democrats are so opposed to what happened with Iran has little to do with the actual action with regard to Iran and much more to do with protect the precious, as always, Barack Obama.
00:22:51.000 Now, I will say there is such a thing as principled opposition to what just happened in Iran.
00:22:55.000 It comes from two places.
00:22:56.000 One is an actual anti-interventionist stance, right?
00:22:59.000 An actual isolationist stance that's held by senators like Rand Paul.
00:23:02.000 And then there's the sort of constitutional perspective, which is that the president of the United States of either party should not have the kind of authority that is routinely used by presidents of both parties.
00:23:10.000 That's sort of the position of Mike Lee from Utah.
00:23:12.000 Mike Lee was fulminating after the briefing the way the Democrats were, too, saying that he was going to support the Democrats' War Powers Resolution.
00:23:18.000 The only difference is I think that Mike Lee would support it whether it's against a Republican or a Democrat.
00:23:22.000 I think the Democrats would only support this against a Republican.
00:23:25.000 These powers are not ours.
00:23:27.000 They don't belong to any of us.
00:23:30.000 But when we allow them to be exercised through the wrong branches of government, with the wrong process, when you don't have debate and discussion, you don't allow the process itself to correct itself for the American people who will be most affected by these decisions to weigh in.
00:23:45.000 That was insulting.
00:23:47.000 That was demeaning to the process ordained by the Constitution, and I find it completely unacceptable.
00:23:53.000 On that basis, I've decided to support Senator Kaine's resolution, subject to the minor amendments that he and I discussed earlier today.
00:24:00.000 Okay, now full disclosure, I'm very friendly with Senator Lee, I think that he's an excellent senator, and so perhaps I'm granting him the benefit of the doubt, but I do know his constitutional perspective well enough to know that this is a consistent constitutional perspective.
00:24:10.000 That is not true for the Democrats.
00:24:11.000 And the fact that the Democrats are out there praising Obama for his interventionism, I mean, again, he did start shooting war in Libya, for his intervention in the Middle East without any congressional approval and, in fact, in spite of congressional disdain.
00:24:25.000 And yet now they are complaining about all of this.
00:24:27.000 They want to restrict war powers.
00:24:28.000 That's a cynical play.
00:24:31.000 The Democrats' behavior here is just amazing.
00:24:33.000 The fact that Ilhan Omar, an open anti-Semite, who openly sympathizes with the Ayatollahs, I mean, she put out a tweet yesterday about economic sanctions against Iran, suggesting that economic sanctions are a form of warfare, which is weird because she doesn't really care about, in fact, she supports sanctions against the Jews!
00:24:48.000 Jews.
00:24:49.000 Ilhan Omar really does not like them Jews.
00:24:52.000 She's very much in favor of BDS against Israel, a democratic ally of the United States.
00:24:57.000 But she says economic sanctions against Iran are very bad.
00:25:00.000 Shocking.
00:25:01.000 Yesterday, she did this press conference where Ilhan Omar expressed that she had post-traumatic stress disorder thanks to tensions with Iran.
00:25:08.000 Well, clearly we should formulate our foreign policy based on the fact that Ilhan Omar is having flashbacks or something.
00:25:17.000 I feel ill a little bit because of everything that is taking place.
00:25:25.000 And I think every time I hear about, I hear of conversations around war, I find myself being stricken with PTSD.
00:25:36.000 And I find peace knowing that I serve with great advocates for peace and people who have Sean, Courage Against War.
00:25:49.000 Are we supposed to take this human being seriously?
00:25:52.000 This is a human being we are supposed to take seriously?
00:25:54.000 A person who once wrote letters in support of people who had joined ISIS, asking a judge for more mercy upon them?
00:26:00.000 This did happen in Minnesota, well reported by the Minneapolis Star Tribune.
00:26:04.000 She sits on the House Foreign Affairs Committee despite the fact that she says an anti-semitic thing approximately once every 32.9 seconds.
00:26:10.000 This human being who says, yes, clearly we should formulate our Iran policy around Ilhan Omar because she feels a little, a little ill.
00:26:18.000 She feels a little ill.
00:26:20.000 Really?
00:26:21.000 Okay.
00:26:23.000 What this is about for people who are not Ilhan Omar, who's just a radical, who is not cold, she's lukewarm at best with regard to America's anti-terror efforts.
00:26:34.000 Let's just put it that way.
00:26:36.000 The mainstream democratic players are more focused on how much they hate Trump than they are about the interests of the United States.
00:26:41.000 And that is pretty obvious.
00:26:43.000 James Clapper, the former head of the Central Intelligence Agency under Barack Obama, he suggested that, you know, when we were paying off the Iranians, that wasn't us paying off the Iranians, we were just It's giving them the money that they had already earned.
00:26:55.000 I mean, we were just freeing up their money.
00:26:56.000 I've heard this talking point from many members of the left, that when the Obama administration shipped pallets of cash to Iran and gave them $150 billion, that that wasn't bad, because after all, that was money that had been earned by the Iranian government.
00:27:07.000 I mean, that was money that was owed to the Iranian government.
00:27:09.000 Okay, well, you know what's a thing that we do here in the United States?
00:27:11.000 Let's say that a drug dealer gets arrested for being a drug dealer.
00:27:14.000 We seize his assets.
00:27:15.000 One of the reasons we seize his assets is because we don't want him using those assets for further drug dealing.
00:27:20.000 The notion that, well, you know, that drug dealer really did earn that money.
00:27:23.000 I guess we should just sign that check over.
00:27:25.000 A uniquely foolish position from the Obama administration that was pursued to the hilt and led to the rise in terror.
00:27:31.000 It is not as though we provided taxpayer money to the Iranians.
00:27:38.000 What we did was, what the administration did, was unfreeze assets that were actually the Iranians.
00:27:46.000 The weapons, security assistance funding for weapons systems that we were providing the Iraqis way back when.
00:27:53.000 So we freed that up.
00:27:54.000 And the actual intelligence evidence that I saw before I left Money is fungible.
00:28:07.000 It's fungible.
00:28:08.000 They didn't have to use that specific earmarked dollar for buying a ballistic missile.
00:28:13.000 If they used that specific earmarked dollar for something else and then used a different dollar for the ballistic missile, the dollar still went for the ballistic missile.
00:28:19.000 Okay, but the media really have been outshining themselves.
00:28:19.000 Ridiculous.
00:28:23.000 They really are just...
00:28:25.000 outdoing themselves on a regular basis.
00:28:26.000 So if you ever had doubts that the media and the Democratic Party are just wings of one another, that the Democratic Party is the activist wing of the media and the media are the PR wing for the Democrats, all you had to do is watch the media this week who are doing the overt work of the Obama administration, which is to say the overt work of the Iranian PR agencies, which is to say the overt work of the Iranian PR agencies, because effectively the Obama administration became a PR agency for the Iranians in order to push the
00:28:50.000 The Obama administration had to make the case that the Iranians were good, reasonable, decent people who are going to moderate and who are going to become friends to the world community so long as we appease them.
00:28:59.000 And so, what you saw from the Obama administration over and over is that when Iran would do something terrible, it would be, well, no, you're just getting Iran wrong, guys.
00:29:06.000 You're just getting Iran wrong.
00:29:07.000 Basically, the Obama administration became the girlfriend to the abusive, drug-addicted boyfriend trying to explain her boyfriend to her parents.
00:29:14.000 That was what the Obama administration became with regard to the Iranian government.
00:29:17.000 He's like, well, you know, he's he's not that bad guy.
00:29:19.000 Sure.
00:29:20.000 You see the bruise here?
00:29:21.000 Like, yeah, he hit me.
00:29:22.000 But I mean, I did offend him, to be fair.
00:29:25.000 And yeah, he's a drug addict who like who tried to prostitute me for money.
00:29:29.000 But let's be fair.
00:29:30.000 I mean, he had a rough childhood.
00:29:32.000 That was the Obama administration with regard to Iran.
00:29:34.000 And the media started doing the same thing.
00:29:35.000 And now they continue to do the same thing.
00:29:37.000 The media's take on all of this is so patently removed from reality that it should destroy their credibility in a massive way for a huge period of time.
00:29:45.000 It won't, of course, because once you have authoritative voices standing in Tehran, well, that means they know things.
00:29:51.000 Alternatively, they don't know a damn thing.
00:29:52.000 And many of them are unbelievably stupid and or dishonest.
00:29:55.000 We'll get to that in just one second.
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00:30:30.000 So the media simply cannot bring themselves to acknowledge the overt reality, which is this was a win for America and it was a win for Trump.
00:30:43.000 And there's some members of the media who don't really like Trump very much, or at least not honest enough to admit this.
00:30:47.000 I had on Ian Bremmer yesterday, who's a foreign policy analyst for GZERO Media, teaches, I believe, at Georgetown.
00:30:52.000 And Ian is certainly no Trump fan.
00:30:54.000 And he said, Iran is weaker than it was when Trump took office, and Trump just opened a window for negotiation, and Trump has actually re-established a level of deterrence with Iran that the Obama administration had completely avoided.
00:31:05.000 At least Ian is honest.
00:31:06.000 But most of the members of the media, not nearly as honest.
00:31:09.000 Because they were just repeating Iranian propaganda while the Iranian retaliation was going on.
00:31:09.000 How do you know?
00:31:13.000 Here was MSNBC reporting false dead Americans during the attack.
00:31:16.000 Those were just notices that were put out by the Iranians.
00:31:19.000 Honestly, it's an amazing thing.
00:31:20.000 They do the same thing with regard to Israel and its enemies.
00:31:23.000 Whenever the Palestinians, when the government authorities in the Gaza Strip, for example, put out casualty numbers, the media just repeat it without even checking it.
00:31:31.000 And those casualty numbers are always inflated and always refuse to take into account military-age males who are actually members of terrorist groups.
00:31:38.000 Well, they did the same thing.
00:31:39.000 MSNBC did the same thing in the middle of this attack.
00:31:41.000 They just started repeating false numbers about dead Americans that didn't exist.
00:31:45.000 Assad airbase and there being 30 casualties.
00:31:47.000 I just want to be very clear, we don't have independent confirmation of that as of yet.
00:31:51.000 That is a claim being made on Iranian state media.
00:31:54.000 Iran's state media is claiming that 30 U.S.
00:31:57.000 soldiers have been killed in this attack.
00:31:59.000 Now, this is not confirmed.
00:32:00.000 This is just coming from Iranian media.
00:32:03.000 But we have just stepped over the precipice, Chris.
00:32:06.000 You've stepped over the precipice.
00:32:08.000 Based on a report from Iranian state media that was a full-on lie that had no merit to it whatsoever.
00:32:13.000 Sure, we're not gonna take it too seriously, but you should take it super duper seriously.
00:32:18.000 And every element of what Trump has done along the way has been criticized for the dumbest possible reasons.
00:32:22.000 You go on Twitter today, people are criticizing the fact that Trump sniffs during his speeches.
00:32:27.000 It's been a thing during his speeches for a very long time.
00:32:29.000 They're suggesting that the reason he sniffs is because he's on Adderall.
00:32:32.000 They're criticizing the fact that he was slurring a couple of his words How about the fact that Joe Biden cannot string together a human sentence?
00:32:42.000 How about the fact that Nancy Pelosi bobbles her words routinely?
00:32:46.000 But Donald Trump is a very bad man because of that.
00:32:48.000 An MSNBC panel yesterday could not even believe that military brass were attending Trump's speech.
00:32:53.000 How could military brass... Here's Ben Rhodes, the vicious liar, going after the Trump administration.
00:32:58.000 How could the military brass attend Trump's speech even though they were the ones who had presided over the attack?
00:33:05.000 It's just sad that we're still sitting here with a President of the United States who out of a weird mixture of envy and deep antipathy has to attack his predecessor in the most political manner with the military standing behind him discussing life or death issues.
00:33:23.000 We just shouldn't come to this, Nicole.
00:33:25.000 We're better than this.
00:33:26.000 Our politics should be better than this.
00:33:28.000 This is a damned liar.
00:33:29.000 He's a damned liar.
00:33:30.000 A repeated damned liar.
00:33:31.000 He's just awful in every way.
00:33:34.000 And he's an Obama administration advocate sitting... How dare Donald Trump exploit the military this way?
00:33:38.000 Barack Obama literally went to an airbase, I believe it was in Afghanistan, and suggested that the soldiers made a great photo op.
00:33:44.000 That's a direct quote.
00:33:46.000 Okay?
00:33:48.000 It's enough to boggle the mind.
00:33:49.000 The gaslighting is unbelievable.
00:33:50.000 And speaking of obsessions, it's not about Trump being obsessed with Obama.
00:33:54.000 It's about the fact that Trump just showed up Obama.
00:33:56.000 And that Obama's legacy is a bag of flaming dog poop.
00:33:59.000 Obama's legacy on Iraq is horrific.
00:34:02.000 And it was led by Ben Rhodes.
00:34:03.000 It was led by Susan Rice.
00:34:04.000 So what do the media do?
00:34:04.000 They go get Ben Rhodes and Susan Rice like, why is Trump so obsessed with us?
00:34:07.000 Why is Trump so obsessed with us?
00:34:09.000 Also, why is Trump such an ugly orange man?
00:34:12.000 The projection here is just astonishing.
00:34:14.000 Meanwhile, you have columnists for the New York Times trying to pretend that a win is a loss.
00:34:17.000 You've got Nicholas Kristof over at the New York Times who has a piece today that says, Trump has a bizarre idea of winning.
00:34:23.000 Here's what he says.
00:34:24.000 For now, we seem to have averted an all-out shooting war between the United States and Iran.
00:34:28.000 Yet it's not over.
00:34:28.000 The world is more dangerous than it was a week ago.
00:34:31.000 No, it most assuredly is not.
00:34:33.000 Soleimani was a massive chess piece.
00:34:36.000 He is off the board.
00:34:38.000 The Iranians are backing off of aggression inside Iraq because they don't want to cross red lines.
00:34:42.000 No, the world is not more dangerous than it was before.
00:34:45.000 Most assuredly, it is not.
00:34:47.000 President Trump's exuberance, says Nicholas Kristof, suggests that he may have learned precisely the wrong lesson from his clash with Iran.
00:34:53.000 Trump and some of his supporters are crowing at the lack of American casualties.
00:34:56.000 Iran may have carefully aimed so as to miss people in ways that remind me of the hubris preceding the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
00:35:02.000 As there were then, there are today concerns about whether intelligence has been overstated, leaders are thumping their chests, and there's too much confidence in the ability of the military toolbox to solve complex problems.
00:35:11.000 So he can't actually explain why this was a bad thing?
00:35:14.000 So he's just going to go back to the Iraq War, which in popular revisionist history was a complete loss for the United States, despite the fact that the original aim of the war, which was to depose Saddam Hussein, was accomplished inside of three weeks, thanks to the greatest military in the history of the world.
00:35:27.000 But according to Nicholas Kristof, this is a big loss.
00:35:29.000 Why?
00:35:30.000 Well, Trump, who in 2012 repeatedly claimed that Barack Obama would start a war with Iran to help win re-election, is already running election ads on Facebook trumpeting his killing of Major General Qasem Soleimani and stating that this is keeping America safe.
00:35:42.000 Again, Trump did not quote-unquote start a war with Iran to win re-election.
00:35:46.000 That's absurdity at the highest level.
00:35:48.000 And killing Soleimani is a good thing.
00:35:50.000 I'm sorry that Democrats are finding it hard to campaign against killing terrorists, but You guys picked that position.
00:35:55.000 You didn't have to.
00:35:56.000 But here is how Nicholas Kristof characterizes the results.
00:35:59.000 You ready?
00:35:59.000 This is idiotic.
00:36:00.000 Iran has cast off nuclear curbs so that it is now potentially within five months of having enough fuel for a nuclear warhead, down from almost 15 years when Trump took office.
00:36:08.000 It was not 15 years when Trump took office!
00:36:10.000 That was their voluntary statement that they would not develop nuclear weapons for quote-unquote 15 years.
00:36:15.000 The nuclear deal didn't even extend for 15 years.
00:36:17.000 It extended for 10 years.
00:36:19.000 And their development of nuclear weapons was a secondary priority for them next to their development of regional power, which they had been pursuing pedal to the metal ever since the Iran nuclear deal.
00:36:29.000 United States forces, according to Christoph, may be pushed out of Iraq, allowing Soleimani to achieve in death one of his foremost goals in life.
00:36:36.000 I'm gonna need some evidence there.
00:36:37.000 And I don't wanna hear your bull crap about the Iraqi parliament voting to eject the United States.
00:36:41.000 They don't even have the power to do that.
00:36:42.000 It takes a cabinet request.
00:36:44.000 The cabinet doesn't exist.
00:36:45.000 The reason the cabinet does not exist in Iraq is because the president, the prime minister of Iraq, does not have any authority.
00:36:52.000 He's the acting prime minister because of protests inside his own country that were suggesting that he was enthralled to Iran.
00:36:58.000 There's not support inside Iraq by Shia, by Sunnis rather, and Kurds for the United States to pull out of there because they know the moment that happens, the Iranians basically take over.
00:37:08.000 American forces in Syria may be difficult to support without the military presence in Iraq, so some or all of them might pull out as well.
00:37:14.000 Another strategic victory for Iran.
00:37:16.000 Wait a second.
00:37:16.000 Are you saying that pulling troops out of the region would be a victory for Iran?
00:37:19.000 Because it was my impression that Barack Obama precipitously withdrew all troops from Iraq, or nearly all troops from Iraq, leading to the rise of ISIS, leading to the continuation of Syria, leading to Russia taking over Syria and Iran funding Syria.
00:37:31.000 Nicholas Kristof, man.
00:37:32.000 I mean, the disconnect from any... Do people have memory?
00:37:35.000 They're like Dory from Finding Nemo.
00:37:37.000 They got memories that last for 32 seconds.
00:37:39.000 It's unbelievable.
00:37:42.000 It's incredible.
00:37:43.000 The military campaign against ISIS is on hold, giving terrorists a chance to regroup.
00:37:47.000 We need some evidence of that.
00:37:48.000 Iran's regime, which had been threatened by enormous protests at home and in Iraq, has been rescued by Trump's actions.
00:37:54.000 Rescued by Trump's actions?
00:37:56.000 Truly, they've killed 1,500 protesters.
00:37:59.000 Listen, when you're talking about regime change, first of all, Christoph and the rest of the left don't want the regime changed in Iran.
00:38:05.000 Barack Obama didn't want the regime changed in Iran.
00:38:07.000 He wanted to strengthen the regime in Iran.
00:38:09.000 But, if you're talking about regime change in Iran, there's only one real way that's happening, from inside the Iranian military.
00:38:14.000 Because the people do not have anything like the sort of ability to overthrow the military that they had in other countries where the military was smaller.
00:38:22.000 The fact is that as long as the military support the mullahs, the mullahs will remain in power.
00:38:26.000 It will take somebody in the military changing his mind in order for that to change.
00:38:30.000 But there have been roiling protests across Iran for literally years at this point and I'm old enough to remember in 2009 when the Iranians were out in the streets protesting by the hundreds of thousands and Iranian troops were gunning them down and Barack Obama did nothing, nothing to help, nothing.
00:38:44.000 But according to Nicholas Kristof, Iranians have rallied around the flag and the Iraqi narrative has changed overnight from the bullying of Iranians to the bullying of Americans.
00:38:52.000 Really, is that what the Iraqi narrative is?
00:38:53.000 Because it seems that the Iranians just fired actual ballistic missiles into a foreign nation.
00:38:57.000 Instead of bringing troops home, Trump has had to deploy more to the Middle East at huge cost.
00:39:01.000 Wait a second, two points ago, Nicholas Kristof was arguing that we should not bring any of those troops home because it would free up the Middle East for ISIS and for Iran.
00:39:07.000 Now he's arguing that Trump should bring the troops home.
00:39:09.000 It's like the narrative will shift just so that Trump is bad.
00:39:12.000 That's all.
00:39:14.000 So much winning and there will be more, says Nicholas Kristof.
00:39:17.000 It's true that Iran's foreign minister, Javad Zarif, said that Iran's response had concluded, but Zarif is a moderate, often outmaneuvered by hardliners.
00:39:24.000 I know this partly because back in 2004, after Zarif approved a visa for me, I was detained in Iran by security forces looking for information that could embarrass Zarif and get him fired.
00:39:31.000 Oh, well, Nicholas Kristof is friends with Zarif.
00:39:33.000 That means he's a moderate.
00:39:34.000 So we're still hearing echoes of the Ben Rhodes crap that there is a moderate faction inside the Iranian government that is being challenged by the hardliners inside the Iranian government.
00:39:44.000 It's like saying, who's more pro-Trump, Ivanka or Trump?
00:39:47.000 What are you even talking about?
00:39:49.000 There are not two parties here.
00:39:50.000 It's a one-party dictatorship.
00:39:54.000 Then you have Jamel Bui, who just writes foolishness every week for the New York Times that Trump we did not want to see.
00:40:00.000 When are we going to stop trying to rationalize the irrational?
00:40:03.000 Deterrence is not irrational.
00:40:06.000 It is not irrational.
00:40:08.000 But according to Jamal Bowie, it's just that Trump is a nut.
00:40:10.000 He says, this standoff, which in its latest incarnation saw Iranian missiles sailing toward bases in Iraq on Tuesday night, is so consequential, it's been hard not to impute some logic to the president's actions, even as many observers acknowledge the lies and dysfunction surrounding the attack.
00:40:23.000 It's only natural.
00:40:24.000 We're just looking for some sort of logic.
00:40:25.000 But we've learned since the strike on Soleimani was almost certainly another impulsive action from an impatient president, except for the fact the New York Times reported that Mike Pompeo had been pushing for Soleimani's killing for literally months on end.
00:40:37.000 He says that Trump is not a steady hand, he's never been one, yada yada yada.
00:40:40.000 So apparently, Trump is the nut, and it's only thanks to the forethought of the Iranian regime that everything is hunky-dory.
00:40:48.000 The Washington Post editorial board today is insisting that Trump didn't win.
00:40:52.000 I'm not owned, I'm not owned!
00:40:54.000 He shouted as he turned slowly into a corncob.
00:40:57.000 According to the Washington Post, proclaiming Trump victorious in Iran is short-sighted and premature.
00:41:01.000 Oh really, what was it when you declared Obama victorious in Iran after he decided to sign them checks so they could pursue further terrorism and ballistic missile testing while pretending that their nuclear program was shut down for all time?
00:41:10.000 What would you call that?
00:41:12.000 According to the Washington Post, Mr. Trump's acolytes quickly proclaimed him victorious for having eliminated the architect of Iran's foreign adventurism while avoiding a more damaging response.
00:41:20.000 That assessment was premature and short-sighted.
00:41:23.000 Iran's strikes on U.S.
00:41:24.000 interests and allies will almost certainly continue in the coming months.
00:41:27.000 Oh, you mean as opposed to like before when we had months on end of them firing rockets at American military bases and pursuing terrorist actions across the Middle East?
00:41:35.000 Unless the Trump administration quickly steps up its diplomatic aim, what Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei called his ultimate aim, the removal of the United States from the Middle East, could soon be realized in Iraq and Syria.
00:41:46.000 Again, based on no evidence whatsoever.
00:41:48.000 But the media are going to try to declare a victory, an actual loss, because that's how much they hate Trump.
00:41:54.000 How much do members of the media hate Trump?
00:41:56.000 Yesterday on The View, Joy Behar mentioned that white supremacist Richard Spencer, one of the Charlottesville leaders, had decided that he would no longer endorse Trump going into 2020.
00:42:05.000 Why?
00:42:05.000 Because Richard Spencer didn't like that Trump had threatened, quote unquote, Aryan cultural heritage sites.
00:42:09.000 This is part of this idiotic race nationalism that suggests that, first of all, Persians are Aryans.
00:42:15.000 And then second of all, that Trump is pursuing the interests of the Jews.
00:42:23.000 Here's Joy Behar, full-scale moron, suggesting that Richard Spencer leaving Donald Trump in terms of allegiance is a good thing, and then the entire crowd cheering a white nationalist.
00:42:35.000 You remember Richard Spencer?
00:42:36.000 He's basically the organizer of Unite the Right, the white nationalist group that was marching in Charlottesville.
00:42:41.000 It was all in for Trump.
00:42:43.000 Not anymore.
00:42:44.000 Here's his quote.
00:42:45.000 He tweeted last night, I deeply regret voting for and promoting Donald Trump in 2016.
00:42:49.000 Oh my gosh.
00:42:51.000 Wow.
00:42:52.000 That's interesting.
00:42:54.000 Do you know why?
00:42:55.000 Because Trump, like I said yesterday, Trump ran on not invading and not being a warmonger.
00:43:02.000 That's what I'm talking about.
00:43:02.000 I mean, he ran non-voting and now... Welcome to the resistance, Richard Spencer.
00:43:06.000 Okay, when you are praising a white nationalist to own Trump, you're doing everything wrong.
00:43:10.000 But this is what... I mean, it's unbelievable.
00:43:12.000 This is what the media will do just to avoid the obvious conclusion, which is that Trump got to win here.
00:43:17.000 This is what they will do.
00:43:18.000 It's unbelievable.
00:43:20.000 Now if Chris Matthews, or as they say, Trump, he keeps attacking Obama, why does he keep attacking Obama?
00:43:25.000 Why is he so mean to Obama?
00:43:26.000 If I was such a nice guy, I'd get up here, I'd get up here every morning, in my ruffle coat, come here with a shoe, come in here and explain that President Trump's a meanie with regards to Obama.
00:43:36.000 Whereas I, I love, I love Obama.
00:43:37.000 He gives a tingle at my leg.
00:43:39.000 I remember when he signed that Iran nuclear deal, I basically orgasmed on stage, it was crazy.
00:43:43.000 Well now, here I am, explaining that Trump, he keeps attacking Obama because he's mean!
00:43:48.000 Not because Obama's policy was garbage, but he's mean!
00:43:50.000 Go, Chris Matthews, go!
00:43:53.000 In the midst of this international conversation, he throws in this almost clinical need to attack Obama.
00:44:00.000 It's almost like Tourette's.
00:44:01.000 Can he not get through a conversation without... But in this case, it was so scurrilous.
00:44:06.000 He's basically saying, as you pointed out, you see those bombs hitting our American base in western Iraq last night?
00:44:11.000 Oh, they were paid for by Barack Obama.
00:44:14.000 Like he's back there, he's the bursar, he's the financial guy behind these bombs.
00:44:19.000 It's an outrageous stretch.
00:44:21.000 Is it an outrageous stretch?
00:44:22.000 He signed checks to the Iranians, he opened their economies so they could pursue terror.
00:44:25.000 Secretary of State John Kerr announced back in March 2016 that yes, some of that money would go to pursuing terror and ballistic missiles.
00:44:33.000 He's got like Tourette's!
00:44:34.000 He's so mean to Obama!
00:44:35.000 He's so mean to Obama!
00:44:36.000 I love Obama!
00:44:36.000 I'd give that guy a back rub right now!
00:44:38.000 He's beautiful!
00:44:38.000 Sorry Kathleen, I'm busy tonight!
00:44:41.000 Chris Matthews over on MSNBC.
00:44:42.000 Alrighty.
00:44:42.000 Time for a quick thing that I like and then we'll get to a quick thing that I hate.
00:44:45.000 So, things that I like.
00:44:46.000 possibility of shame.
00:44:47.000 This would be a shameful moment for them.
00:44:48.000 But good news for them.
00:44:50.000 They have no capacity for shame.
00:44:51.000 And so we will continue to lie to the American people from the stage at MSNBC.
00:44:55.000 Alrighty, time for a quick thing that I like.
00:44:57.000 And then we'll get to a quick thing that I hate.
00:44:59.000 So things that I like.
00:45:01.000 So first of all, Nancy Pelosi has been completely outmaneuvered.
00:45:05.000 She had no leverage.
00:45:06.000 When she held back the impeachment charges, she had no leverage, none whatsoever.
00:45:09.000 And everybody knew she had no leverage, but the media tried to proclaim that she was a genius.
00:45:13.000 Another example of the media being garbage at their jobs.
00:45:16.000 The media tried to suggest that Nancy Pelosi really had outplayed Mitch McConnell.
00:45:20.000 Ah, you see?
00:45:21.000 If she doesn't hand the charges to McConnell, then she won't have handed the charges to McConnell, and then McConnell won't be able to acquit Trump.
00:45:28.000 And so then, and then, and then, and, and, and then she'll have won!
00:45:32.000 And she'll have won, guys!
00:45:33.000 Because then, she will not have handed the impeachment charges to McConnell, and then McConnell will just be sitting there!
00:45:38.000 Then what's he gonna do?
00:45:39.000 Then what's he gonna do?
00:45:40.000 Then he'll be all mad, won't he?
00:45:41.000 Because then he can't do anything!
00:45:42.000 Like, he can't impeach Trump!
00:45:44.000 But, but, she'll have impeached Trump, but she won't hand the charges- It never made any sense.
00:45:48.000 Basically, Nancy Pelosi was threatening to do a thing McConnell didn't want anyway.
00:45:52.000 And she was like, Mitch McConnell, if you don't do what I want, I will give you this ice cream cone.
00:45:57.000 This ice cream cone right here, I will give it to you if you don't do what I want.
00:46:01.000 You're not gonna do it?
00:46:01.000 You want it?
00:46:02.000 Here it comes!
00:46:02.000 Here comes the ice cream!
00:46:03.000 Here's the ice cream!
00:46:04.000 And Mitch McConnell's like, you gotta be kidding me.
00:46:06.000 Like, this is incompetence at the highest level.
00:46:08.000 It's ridiculous.
00:46:09.000 You have nothing, you have no leverage, nothing to threaten with.
00:46:13.000 The Republican caucus is not going to agree to your procedures on impeachment after you ran the House investigation in the dumbest possible way, refusing to call any of the witnesses who are actually relevant or wait for a judge to actually decide whether those witnesses could be called in the first place.
00:46:28.000 So Mitch McConnell yesterday is like, no, we're not haggling over this.
00:46:31.000 You've got to be kidding me.
00:46:32.000 Anybody who's proclaimed Nancy Pelosi a master strategist has not been watching the last year of Nancy Pelosi running the house.
00:46:39.000 In the last year alone, Nancy Pelosi basically got played by the squad.
00:46:44.000 And let's be frank about this.
00:46:46.000 The combined IQ over at the squad If it were electricity, could not toast a piece of bread lightly.
00:46:51.000 I mean, those are not a set of brilliant human beings over at the squad.
00:46:55.000 They say dumb things routinely, they step in it all the time, they say openly anti-semitic things, but Nancy Pelosi could not even motivate her own base to condemn anti-semitism in its own resolution.
00:47:04.000 Instead, they had to put together a huge resolution condemning all the bad things, including asparagus for dinner.
00:47:09.000 Because she just couldn't stand up to the squad.
00:47:11.000 And so Nancy Pelosi lost control of her own caucus.
00:47:14.000 Then, because she lost control of her own caucus, she had to push for impeachment when censure would have been a much easier move on Ukraine and probably would have drawn some Republican votes.
00:47:21.000 Instead, she pushes impeachment.
00:47:23.000 And then she's caught out because it turns out that they don't actually have the grounds for impeachment.
00:47:27.000 They couldn't prove their case, which is that Trump Was deliberately attempting to sink Joe Biden, not because of concerns about corruption in Ukraine, not because of actual corruption concerns about Hunter Biden, but specifically because he wanted Joe Biden out of the way for 2020.
00:47:39.000 They couldn't prove it.
00:47:40.000 And then Nancy Pelosi was like, oh, well, I guess now that I'm caught here, well, I'm just not going to give it to you.
00:47:44.000 These impeachment charges.
00:47:45.000 Now, this this right here.
00:47:47.000 This bag of poop.
00:47:48.000 I'm just not gonna- I'm gonna keep this bag of poop.
00:47:50.000 I'm gonna put it in my refrigerator.
00:47:51.000 I'm gonna let it stink up my fridge every single day.
00:47:53.000 But you're never gonna receive this bag of poop.
00:47:55.000 And Mitch McConnell's like, well, I never wanted the bag of poop.
00:47:58.000 If you want to hold that bag of poop, you can keep holding the bag of poop.
00:48:01.000 It's a bag of poop.
00:48:02.000 Here's Mitch McConnell explaining.
00:48:06.000 Supposedly, the explanation for this shameless game playing is that Speaker Pelosi wanted... leverage?
00:48:14.000 Leverage?
00:48:16.000 To reach into the Senate and dictate our trial proceedings to us.
00:48:23.000 Now I've made clear from the beginning that no such leverage exists.
00:48:26.000 There will be no haggling with the House over Senate procedure.
00:48:31.000 We will not cede our authority to try this impeachment.
00:48:35.000 The House Democrats' turn is over.
00:48:39.000 The Senate has made its decision.
00:48:41.000 My favorite is the animated Mitch McConnell right there.
00:48:43.000 That is Mitch McConnell getting animated.
00:48:45.000 You do have to love the low-key nature of Mitch McConnell on this sort of stuff.
00:48:49.000 Leverage?
00:48:50.000 Leverage?
00:48:51.000 Are you out of your mind?
00:48:53.000 According to Reuters, the U.S.
00:48:54.000 Senate will move forward with its own legislative agenda next week unless it receives articles of impeachment against Trump from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, McConnell said on Thursday.
00:49:02.000 He said on the Senate floor, there's real business for the American people that the U.S.
00:49:05.000 Senate needs to complete.
00:49:06.000 If the Speaker continues to refuse to take her own accusations to trial, the Senate will move forward next week with the business of our people.
00:49:12.000 In other words, fine, don't send it.
00:49:14.000 See if I care.
00:49:15.000 Why would I possibly care if you're not sending it?
00:49:18.000 So that means that Nancy Pelosi has now basically been boxed in.
00:49:20.000 But my favorite thing is that you're not allowed to say that Nancy Pelosi botched this.
00:49:24.000 You must never say.
00:49:26.000 Then Nancy Pelosi botched this.
00:49:27.000 There was one Democratic congressperson who actually said it.
00:49:30.000 His name is Adam Smith, Democrat of Washington.
00:49:32.000 And he said, we should be sending these impeachment charges over if we actually take them seriously.
00:49:37.000 And then the entire Nancy Pelosi wing of the media and the Democratic Party, but I repeat myself, They came out and they're like, Adam Smith is a bad man.
00:49:44.000 Nancy Pelosi's a genius.
00:49:46.000 She's a genius, guys.
00:49:47.000 She is geniusing it up.
00:49:48.000 Massive, incredible, unbelievable, unspoken genius.
00:49:53.000 You challenged Nancy Pelosi?
00:49:55.000 She's on the cover of Time Magazine, by the way, this week.
00:49:57.000 Time Magazine, just another media repository of idiocy.
00:50:01.000 On the cover, a piece written by Molly Ball, titled, Her Gamble.
00:50:07.000 That's the, and so the idea is that she, there's no gamble here.
00:50:12.000 What is that?
00:50:12.000 And then there's a picture of Nancy Pelosi.
00:50:14.000 God, the media are so disgusting!
00:50:17.000 Like, they're just awful.
00:50:19.000 There's a picture of Nancy Pelosi, lit from behind slightly.
00:50:23.000 So you actually get the halo of light bouncing off of her well-groomed hair.
00:50:26.000 And the headline is, we've upped the ante.
00:50:28.000 Why Nancy Pelosi is going all in against Trump.
00:50:34.000 Oh, the heroism.
00:50:35.000 Oh, the unspeakable heroism of Nancy Pelosi.
00:50:39.000 Molly Ball writes, Nancy Pelosi isn't wild about the question.
00:50:42.000 The impeachment of President Trump is underway, and I've asked the Speaker of the House if she thinks it's the most important thing she'll ever do.
00:50:48.000 We're sitting in her elegant office in the Capitol, on gold-upholstered armchairs around a low table topped with a vase of hydrangeas.
00:50:53.000 One of my favorite things about these sorts of long-form pieces is the description of the surroundings, because it tells you everything you need to know about the journalist.
00:51:00.000 That description.
00:51:01.000 She's elegant, right?
00:51:02.000 Because what they're saying about the surroundings is the person, right?
00:51:05.000 If it were Donald Trump and you're sitting in the same place, it would be Donald Trump sitting in his vulgar office in the White House, surrounded by gold-adorned Versailles furniture, topped with a vase of fake flowers.
00:51:18.000 But with Nancy Pelosi, it's Wow, she's a queen in her own right.
00:51:21.000 It's just, it's amazing.
00:51:21.000 Don't you see?
00:51:22.000 Can't you picture it in your mind's eye?
00:51:23.000 a low tabletop with a vase of hydrangeas.
00:51:25.000 Wow, she's a queen in her own right.
00:51:27.000 It's just, it's amazing.
00:51:28.000 Over her shoulder, the sweeping view of the National Mall is shrouded in wintry clouds because the scene has to be set.
00:51:36.000 Don't you see?
00:51:36.000 Don't you see?
00:51:37.000 Can't you picture it in your mind's eye?
00:51:40.000 Can't you picture how the wintry clouds, the threat to democracy, is coming over the National Mall, that symbol where Martin Luther King once spoke?
00:51:49.000 Can't with the Washington Monument, the...
00:51:52.000 Bolts of lightning striking as Nancy Pelosi stands up and picks up the hammer of Thor!
00:51:56.000 According to Molly Ball, for a long moment, the speaker goes silent as she seems to compile in her mind the list of accomplishments she'd rather claim as her legacy.
00:52:05.000 Apart from declaring war, this is the most important thing that Congress can do, she finally says.
00:52:09.000 I'm most proud of the Affordable Care Act, but this is the most serious initiative I've ever been involved in in my career.
00:52:15.000 Molly Ball says Pelosi has spent decades at the highest level of politics, but the past 12 months have been arguably her most consequential.
00:52:24.000 Really?
00:52:25.000 She hasn't passed a single piece of major legislation?
00:52:27.000 I'm gonna go with the Obamacare.
00:52:28.000 Obamacare was definitely the biggest thing she ever did.
00:52:30.000 No question about it.
00:52:31.000 She's correct about that, but according to Molly Ball, it's that she was part of the resistance.
00:52:35.000 Resistance!
00:52:36.000 She wore a pussy hat and everything.
00:52:37.000 Woo!
00:52:38.000 Returning to the speakership after eight years of running the House Democratic minority, she established herself as a counterweight and constrainer of this divisive president.
00:52:46.000 She outmaneuvered Trump on policy from the border wall he didn't get to the budget agreement he signed, loaded with goodies that Democrats wanted.
00:52:52.000 She oversaw an unprecedented litigation effort against the executive branch, racking up landmark court victories.
00:52:57.000 Oh, you mean there were a bunch of lower courts that didn't like Trump and ruled against him and then all of that was overturned by the Supreme Court for the most part?
00:53:04.000 And she was the tactician behind the investigation that resulted in Trump's impeachment on December 18th.
00:53:09.000 That really took a huge amount of tactics.
00:53:10.000 I mean, what an amount of tactics it took to say, we're going to investigate the president for impeachment.
00:53:15.000 And then your majority of Democrats that you run actually impeach.
00:53:19.000 Wow.
00:53:19.000 The tactical brilliance.
00:53:21.000 I mean, imagine it's like the tactical brilliance.
00:53:23.000 If I were to poll my employees about whether they liked the show, and then it turns out that most of them say yes, and the rest of them get fired.
00:53:30.000 My tactical brilliance unparalleled.
00:53:32.000 Nancy Pelosi said to her own caucus, you should impeach Trump, and then they impeached Trump.
00:53:36.000 Boom!
00:53:37.000 Mind blown.
00:53:37.000 Tactical brilliance of having not a single Republican on board.
00:53:40.000 Not one.
00:53:42.000 Just un... The woman is Clausewitz.
00:53:44.000 I mean, what can you say?
00:53:46.000 What is most striking, according to Molly Ball, about this moment in Pelosi's career, is that at the peak of power, she is not protecting her position, but rather using it in aggressive, even risky ways.
00:53:55.000 Bullcrap!
00:53:56.000 If she weren't protecting her position, she would have condemned Ilhan Omar, and Rashida Tlaib, and Ayanna Pressley, and AOC, and the rest of the squad repeatedly.
00:54:05.000 But instead, she has kowtowed to them.
00:54:07.000 Of course she's protecting her position.
00:54:08.000 She's been protecting her left flank.
00:54:10.000 There's a brief moment in time where it looked like she was going to challenge them, and then, Trump got involved and said that the squad sucked.
00:54:16.000 And then Nancy Pelosi immediately jumped in and said, they're the greatest.
00:54:19.000 They're the most beautiful young women standing up for femininity.
00:54:24.000 Just the revisionist nonsense from the media.
00:54:26.000 My God.
00:54:29.000 Does impeaching Trump is a gamble for Pelosi?
00:54:31.000 Really, is it a gamble?
00:54:32.000 What's the gamble?
00:54:34.000 Where is the vast outcry from Democrats suggesting that there's going to be hell to pay if Nancy Pelosi does this?
00:54:41.000 According to Time, it has intensified Republicans' fealty to the president.
00:54:45.000 He was already polling in the 90s with Republicans.
00:54:47.000 Rallying his base, supercharging his campaign fundraising, potentially increasing his re-election chances.
00:54:51.000 By the way, that suggests it's not a risk for Nancy Pelosi.
00:54:53.000 She's not running for president.
00:54:55.000 It's a risk for whoever runs against Trump.
00:54:56.000 But in the House, it's not risking anything.
00:54:58.000 The polarizing effect could jeopardize Democrats who hold seats in Trump territory and thereby endanger Pelosi's House majority.
00:55:04.000 Yes, but she made the calculation that she is more in danger from the left wing of her base than she is from Republicans retaking the House.
00:55:10.000 Pelosi has always been a risk taker.
00:55:12.000 From defying Chinese authorities by protesting at Tiananmen Square in 1991.
00:55:17.000 Defying Chinese authorities?
00:55:19.000 She was... Really?
00:55:20.000 She's an American citizen.
00:55:22.000 To pushing Obamacare through the House with nary a vote to spare in 2010.
00:55:25.000 That's not a risk.
00:55:26.000 She was doing what the President wanted her to do.
00:55:28.000 But she was careful to cast impeachment, not as a political gambit, but as a project to preserve the checks and balances of American democracy.
00:55:34.000 That's my responsibility, to protect the Constitution.
00:55:37.000 Could anything be more fawning than this?
00:55:38.000 It's hard to imagine anything more fawning than this.
00:55:40.000 But here's the bottom line.
00:55:41.000 She botched it.
00:55:42.000 She really botched it.
00:55:43.000 And she didn't go all in against Trump.
00:55:44.000 She had nothing to risk because her base freaking hates Trump, despises Trump.
00:55:49.000 But just the amount of navel-gazing sycophancy here is beyond compare.
00:55:56.000 Molly Ball writing, no aspect of the spectacle was too small to escape Pelosi's control.
00:56:02.000 When the Intelligence Committee held its public impeachment hearings in November, Pelosi noticed that Chairman Adam Schiff's head reached nearly to the top of his high-backed chair.
00:56:10.000 After Intelligence finished its work, Judiciary, chaired by Representative Jerry Nadler, was slated to hold hearings in the same room.
00:56:15.000 Pelosi thought if he sat in the same chair, Nadler, a head shorter than Schiff, would look small.
00:56:19.000 Pelosi sent word down there would have to be a change in furniture, and when Judiciary convened on December 4th, Nadler was seated in a leather-backed chair that reached no higher than here.
00:56:28.000 My God, she even did the Feng Shui in the Judiciary Committee!
00:56:32.000 What genius?
00:56:33.000 Alternatively, she put together an impeachment effort with only Democratic votes that is going absolutely nowhere.
00:56:38.000 And now she has to browbeat her fellow Democratic congresspeople into pretending she's good at her job.
00:56:42.000 Adam Smith had to put out a statement today saying, I misspoke this morning.
00:56:46.000 I do believe we should do everything we can to force the Senate to have a fair trial.
00:56:49.000 If the Speaker believes that holding onto the articles for a longer time will help force a fair trial in the Senate, I wholeheartedly support that decision.
00:56:56.000 I am concerned that Senator McConnell won't have a fair trial.
00:56:58.000 I am with the Speaker that we should do everything we can to ensure he does.
00:57:02.000 Ultimately, I do want the article sent to the Senate for the very simple reason that I want the impeachment process to go forward.
00:57:06.000 To the very end, he says, oh yeah, by the way, what I said before, it's still true, but Nancy Pelosi yelled at me, and so now I'm going to pretend to back off.
00:57:13.000 This whole thing has been a debacle for Democrats.
00:57:15.000 It will continue to be a debacle for Democrats.
00:57:17.000 It is a clown show.
00:57:18.000 And yet the media will continue to pretend that Nancy Pelosi is unbelievably good at her job.
00:57:23.000 When in fact, she used to be good at her job.
00:57:24.000 Like 2010, she was good at her job.
00:57:26.000 Now, she's had an awful year.
00:57:27.000 She's very bad at her job right now.
00:57:29.000 And it is perfectly obvious to anybody who has eyes to see and is willing to not listen to the stupid morons over in the media who continue to just carry water for Democrats.
00:57:37.000 The media partisanship in the Trump era is just as bad as it was during the Obama era.
00:57:41.000 It's just more overt.
00:57:43.000 That's all.
00:57:43.000 Alrighty.
00:57:43.000 Well, we've run out of time for Things I Hate.
00:57:45.000 I think that counted as a thing I like and a thing I hate, but at least I gave you the impeachment update.
00:57:49.000 We'll be back here a little bit later today with two additional hours of content.
00:57:51.000 Otherwise, I'll see you here tomorrow.
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