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00:00:32.000Well, before we get to the news, you may have noticed that the stock market has been a little bit volatile.
00:00:36.000And by that, I mean that it lost like one third of its entire value over the course of the last six weeks.
00:00:41.000And now it's bumped up a little bit, but it's going to bounce down again because the fact is that we don't know what course coronavirus is going to take At this point, we're not sure what kind of stimulus packages are going to be necessary, and we're not sure what the stock market is going to do even after all of that because somebody's going to have to foot the bill for all of this.
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00:01:56.000I hope that you had a wonderful weekend, or at least a somewhat relaxing weekend, given the fact that there is nothing to be relaxed about.
00:02:03.000I mean, if you're not having nightmares at this point, if you are not nervous, if your blood pressure is in higher than Really good for you and please tell me how you're doing it because the reality is that while concern is absolutely normal, panic is not out of the question given all the news that has been coming in.
00:02:20.000You know, the fact is that you can't watch the footage from New York City where you're seeing hospitals that are beginning to be overrun, you're seeing emergency rooms that are full, you're seeing coronavirus patients who are racking up In these ERs, you're seeing tape of people being moved out in body bags to morgues and all this stuff is supremely scary.
00:02:39.000And then you look at the pictures of the empty streets in New York City and Los Angeles.
00:02:42.000And I mean, this is different than anything in living memory for people in the United States.
00:02:48.000Because how many people actually remember the Spanish flu pandemic?
00:02:52.000And even during the Spanish flu pandemic, one of the big issues is that there was no nationwide shutdown, which is why the thing became so deadly in the first place.
00:02:58.000And nobody has ever seen anything like this.
00:03:24.000So almost three quarters of a million cases of coronavirus that have been diagnosed.
00:03:28.000We have 35,000 deaths globally from coronavirus.
00:03:32.000And we are watching this thing surge in a lot of Western countries because most of these Western countries are following the path that has already been trod unfortunately by Italy and Spain.
00:03:43.000I don't want to say most of them are treading that path, but certainly enough of them are looking at that path that it's obviously very scary.
00:03:49.000Over the weekend, Italy continued to escalate the number of deaths.
00:03:52.000They now have almost 11,000 total deaths in Italy out of 97,000 confirmed cases.
00:03:56.000Again, those confirmed cases, that confirmed case number is not really a good and useful number.
00:04:03.000I discussed this with both Vice President Mike Pence and Dr. Deborah Birx on the Sunday special yesterday.
00:04:07.000But the fact is that confirmed cases is a bad number because that's the people who are actually coming in for a test.
00:04:11.000Apparently there are 5 to 10 people for every person who comes in for a test who are non-symptomatic or experiencing very slight symptoms, don't come in for a test, or who came in for a test and didn't get a test.
00:04:20.000So a confirmed case number is not actually the number we should be looking at.
00:04:23.000Also, there are tons of countries that are wildly underreporting this stuff, as we'll get to when we get to talking about China, which is continuing to lie about all of this stuff.
00:04:30.000You've seen the media triumphantly, many of them, I mean really, it's almost triumphantly, announcing that the United States is number one in coronavirus cases, as though this is an indicator of the evils of the American system.
00:04:40.000The reality is that there's no question that China is number one and they've been lying to the world about all of this.
00:05:01.000Sources on the inside in Iran say that it is multiple times that number.
00:05:05.000In the UK, you've got 1,400 deaths with 187 deaths added just yesterday.
00:05:09.000And in the United States, right here at home, we've had 2,600 total deaths in the United States, which certainly is a multiplication of what we had last week.
00:05:21.000I mean, early last week, we were talking about 200 deaths, 250 deaths, and then the exponential growth began.
00:05:28.000And so we have seen day over day total coronavirus cases going up.
00:05:31.000That's because we are doing additional testing, which is good.
00:05:33.000We've seen total coronavirus deaths going up exponentially as well, which obviously is quite bad.
00:05:38.000On March 27th, there were 400 daily deaths from coronavirus.
00:05:41.000March 28th, 525 deaths from coronavirus.
00:05:52.000And President Trump, acknowledging how scary these times are, he has now pushed back his deadline on when he thinks people are going to get back to work.
00:06:41.000The better you do, the faster this whole nightmare will end.
00:06:49.000Therefore, we will be extending our guidelines to April 30th to slow the spread.
00:06:58.000On Tuesday, we will be finalizing these plans and providing a summary of our findings, supporting data, and strategy to the American people.
00:07:08.000So President Trump was, in fact, retreating from the desire to relax all of that by mid-April, but the numbers just did not support that.
00:07:15.000The latest numbers suggest, in fact, that this thing is going to peak around the time that President Trump was talking about people maybe starting to get back to work.
00:07:22.000According to Axios, April is going to be very hard, but public health officials are in agreement that hunkering down and weathering one of the darkest months in American history is the only way to prevent perhaps millions of American deaths.
00:07:32.000Estimates now being echoed by the Trump administration find that the U.S.
00:07:35.000coronavirus outbreak should peak in about two weeks.
00:07:37.000That is if everybody hunkers down now.
00:07:39.000So if you are out and about and you are not hunkering down right now, then you're probably lengthening the amount of time before everybody can sort of go back to normal, unless you're out in more rural areas where there's not a lot of social interaction anyway.
00:07:50.000But if you're in a major city and you're going out to the beaches and you're hanging out with other people and you are perpetuating the spread of this thing, you are doing something wrong.
00:07:56.000Deborah Birx, who's coordinating the White House coronavirus response, Mentioned by name, a University of Washington Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, they predicted that demand for hospital beds and supplies, including ventilators, will far exceed supply as of April 14th, barring some sort of radical uptick.
00:08:12.000On that day, according to that particular model, 2,300 coronavirus deaths are expected in one day, which of course would be a massive, massive number of deaths.
00:08:19.000In the United States, about 7,500 people die every day, so that'd be increasing the death rate on top of that by about Well, that'd be 40% on top of that.
00:08:33.000It'd be increasing the death rate by about one third on top of the normal death rate.
00:08:36.000That model predicts that 81,000 Americans will die over the next four months, and that is assuming strong adherence to social distancing measures.
00:08:42.000Without social distancing, as many as 2.2 million Americans Could die, according to President Trump.
00:08:47.000That was the number of deaths that was predicted by the Imperial College report that came out a little bit earlier this month.
00:08:52.000That, of course, is at war with another report that came out from Oxford University suggesting that the death rates are much lower than all of that.
00:08:58.000Bottom line is, nobody knows at this point.
00:09:01.000Nobody knows how bad things are going to get right here.
00:09:04.000Dr. Anthony Fauci yesterday, he estimated that even with the strong social distancing measures, we could see 100,000 to 200,000 dead in the United States.
00:09:11.000When you use numbers like a million, a million and a half, two million, that almost certainly is off the chart.
00:09:18.000Now, it's not impossible, but very, very unlikely.
00:10:24.000That's twice the number of deaths that we see from the flu in an average year in the United States.
00:10:28.000If you're talking about 200,000, it's four times the average that you're seeing from the flu in the United States.
00:10:32.000Now, that would still suggest that Fauci is holding by his original estimate in the New England Journal of Medicine that this thing is about as deadly as the flu.
00:10:38.000It's just far, far more widespread because the replication rate on the thing is 2.5 to 3, as opposed to the flu, which is like 1.5.
00:10:45.000Maybe if you have the flu, you infect one person, maybe half of another person.
00:10:50.000I don't know which half, but if you are a person who is infected with coronavirus, good shot that you've infected two to three other people.
00:10:58.000President Trump says by June 1st we'll be on our way to recovery, which of course is a far cry from April 12th, where I've been at six weeks off.
00:11:06.000And Dr. Fauci said, the idea that we may have these cases, many cases played a role in our decision to try to make sure that we don't do something prematurely and pull back when we should be pushing.
00:11:15.000It is pretty obvious that what you don't want to do is tell people that everything is okay, because getting people to do this again is going to be much more difficult than getting them to do it the first time.
00:11:27.000She said no metro area is going to be spared.
00:11:28.000Cities particularly are going to be pretty hard hit.
00:11:30.000Here was Deborah Birx on Meet the Press.
00:11:32.000That's the way pandemics work and that's why we all are deeply concerned and why we've been raising the alert in all metro areas and in all states.
00:11:40.000No state, no metro area will be spared and the sooner we react and the sooner the states and the metro areas react and ensure that they put in full mitigation at the same time understanding exactly what their hospitals need, then we'll be able to move forward together and protect the most Americans.
00:11:59.000And that is the big question, is whether we are going to exceed our capacity.
00:12:02.000Governor John Bel Edwards, who's a Democrat from Louisiana, he said on Meet the Press, if we don't flatten the curve, we're on a trajectory currently to exceed our capacity in New Orleans for ventilators by about April 4th.
00:12:11.000All beds available in hospitals by about April 10th.
00:12:13.000So we're doing everything we can to surge capacity.
00:12:31.000We'll get to more of this in just one second.
00:12:34.000First, let's talk about the fact that you're spending an awful lot of time at home right now, but you may need to fix your car.
00:12:38.000Well, some of the businesses that are still out there and that are still open, maybe auto parts stores, you should still stay home and you should get the better part at Rock Auto.
00:13:43.000Okay, so a couple of pieces of positive news in an extremely, extremely dark time.
00:13:49.000Health insurers have said that they are going to protect their customers from out-of-pocket costs if they need treatment for COVID-19 because obviously during an epidemic, you want to make sure that people aren't infecting each other by staying home.
00:13:58.000Instead, if they're really sick, you want them going to the hospital.
00:14:01.000By the way, If you are really sick, do go to a hospital.
00:14:05.000If you are seriously ill, go to a hospital.
00:14:07.000I know there are a lot of people saying, don't go to the hospital because maybe they're overrun, or maybe you'll be worse treated at a hospital.
00:14:12.000If you're really ill, you need to go to the hospital.
00:14:22.000Don't wait until it has already Been difficult to perfuse your lungs with oxygen.
00:14:27.000Get there while you are still sentient and breathing, would be the rule.
00:14:32.000Two of the nation's largest health insurers, Cigna and Humana, agreed to protect their customers from out-of-pocket costs if they need treatment, a decision that represents a rapid change in how companies are responding to the pandemic, according to the New York Times.
00:14:42.000Describing the insurer's decision as a big deal, President Trump on Sunday said companies don't waive co-pays too easily.
00:14:49.000While insurers and government officials have taken steps in recent weeks to limit people's out-of-pocket costs when they get tested, the bills associated with treatment for COVID can run in the tens of thousands of dollars for a single hospital stay.
00:14:59.000David M. Kordani, the chief executive of Cigna, said, Under the new policy, customers don't have to worry about the financial burden of the virus while their lives are being turned upside down, said Bruce Broussard.
00:16:21.000They're waiving the rules because people are on their deathbeds and they want the treatment that they think may have shown some promise.
00:16:26.000Here is President Trump yesterday in the Rose Garden announcing that hydroxychloroquine is being used in New York City.
00:16:32.000I want to point out that the hydroxychloroquine is being administered to 1,100 patients, people in New York, along with the Z-Pak, which is azithromycin.
00:16:58.000The agency is allowing for the drugs to be donated to the Strategic National Stockpile to be distributed and prescribed by doctors to hospitalize teen and adult patients with COVID-19 when a clinical trial is not available or feasible.
00:17:07.000See, I don't know why the media would be upset about this, considering a clinical trial is not available or feasible.
00:17:13.000We're in the middle of a pandemic, you morons.
00:17:15.000Seriously, one of the big problems with the FDA, I mean, there's been a push by Republicans for years for right-to-try legislation that basically suggests if you are a terminal patient, Then you should be able to try anything that you want to try.
00:17:28.000You shouldn't be held back by the FDA approving clinical trials of particular material.
00:17:33.000And believe it or not, people in hospitals, doctors, are not going to start prescribing fish tank cleaner or as they have been in Iran.
00:17:45.000Seriously, people were telling them, take toxic methanol, and people were giving it to their kids, and their kids were getting blinded by it, because things in Iran turned out to be quite horrible.
00:17:53.000This virus is bad enough without stupidity causing people to die.
00:17:56.000So if everybody could quit with the fish tank cleaner, the eating of the bats, and the taking of the toxic methanol, that would be extremely helpful at this point.
00:18:03.000If a doctor prescribes hydroxychloroquine based on the fact that it's shown some promise, and you're on your deathbed, like, what are you whining about, that the FDA removed the regulation here?
00:18:12.000The move was supported by the White House, part of a larger Trump-backed effort to speed the use of anti-malaria drugs as a potential therapy for a virus that has no proven treatment or cure.
00:18:19.000FDA already has allowed New York State to test administering the medication to seriously ill patients.
00:18:24.000Some hospitals have added it to their treatment protocols.
00:18:26.000Trump himself said at a press briefing, let's see how it works, it may and it may not.
00:18:31.000HHS Secretary Alex Azar tweeted on Sunday night, scientists in America around the world have identified multiple potential therapeutics for COVID-19, including chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine.
00:18:41.000Career scientists have been skeptical of the effort, noting the lack of data.
00:18:48.000This is where you're going to draw the line, guys?
00:18:50.000I feel like this is probably not the place you want to draw the line.
00:18:53.000Meanwhile, Dr. Anthony Fauci is saying, we are ramping up capacity, another piece of good news.
00:18:57.000People are going to get what they need.
00:18:59.000And also, there's this push by the media that suggests that President Trump has to have a good personal relationship with governors in order to help supply them from the federal level.
00:19:10.000People who hate Trump are still getting what they need, which, by the way, is true.
00:19:13.000I mean, I'm going to show you two different, I'm going to show you two different Democratic governors in a second who are thanking the feds for their response on this.
00:19:19.000Here's Fauci saying, this is not a personal thing.
00:19:51.000Okay, and that, of course, is absolutely true.
00:19:53.000Like, for example, Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards, he says the stimulus that you guys have all been criticizing, that you and the media have been ripping, is insufficient.
00:20:00.000The stimulus is definitely going to help people in my state.
00:20:02.000Here's Louisiana Governor John Bel Edwards.
00:20:04.000The $2 trillion package that Congress passed, that the President signed into law, we know is going to help with hospitals with unreimbursed expenses, the expansion of telehealth.
00:20:13.000We know that families are going to benefit, small businesses, employees.
00:20:29.000There's $1.8 billion for the state that's going to help, and so there's going to be additional legislation coming forward, I believe, as well.
00:20:37.000But we know that this is a good start, and I appreciate everything that they have done in Congress in order to help us.
00:20:45.000By the way, listen to the questions there, right?
00:20:47.000I mean, it's so, it's, I'm sorry, it's terrible.
00:20:49.000I mean, the members of the media who are spending all of their time just asking people, is it enough?
00:21:09.000Like, I don't think those kinds of questions would be forthcoming if this were a Republican governor during Hurricane Sandy talking about how Barack Obama had provided all the support necessary.
00:21:17.000In fact, I know that that wouldn't have happened because it didn't happen in 2012 when Hurricane Sandy happened and Chris Christie was hugging Barack Obama on the tarmac and the media were treating Barack Obama as the savior of the East Coast during Hurricane Sandy.
00:21:28.000for doing, like, basically what the federal government should just do as a baseline in the middle of a national disaster, right?
00:21:35.000And the media has been treating it like this the whole time, right?
00:21:36.000CBS's Margaret Brennan, she had Steve Mnuchin on, the Treasury Secretary, and he was saying, like, we're providing stimulus, we're doing our best here.
00:21:43.000Margaret Brennan was the same person who was questioning Governor Bell Edwards there, if you didn't hear her.
00:21:48.000And Margaret Brennan, she's saying to Mnuchin, you don't know all these jobs are going to come back.
00:23:25.000The 627th from Colorado arrived yesterday to build a hospital for us in Century Link Field.
00:23:32.000So there's some good things happening from the federal government, and we have a lot of gratitude for everybody involved in that.
00:23:38.000So again, while the media are out there suggesting the Trump administration is doing a horrible job, most of the governors who are speaking up about this, including Andrew Cuomo, by the way, are saying the feds are giving us what they can.
00:23:48.000You know, maybe they started late, but everybody screwed this thing up.
00:23:50.000And that's going to be one of the themes we're going to talk about in a second here, is it is very easy to see the bias of the media.
00:23:56.000Some good journalists like Jake Tapper has been extremely critical of Trump, but you'll see he actually went after Bill de Blasio yesterday.
00:24:02.000Some in the media Are spending their time pretending that the federal government led by Trump was uniquely wrong on this coronavirus thing?
00:24:09.000Everyone was wrong about this coronavirus thing up until about three weeks ago.
00:24:13.000Up until it became obvious that this was going to become a serious issue in the United States, people across the aisle were not taking this seriously enough.
00:24:21.000And the media are now doing this revisionist history where it was only one side of the aisle because Trump is the man in power.
00:24:26.000It was only one side of the aisle that was not taking this seriously enough, and that just is not true.
00:24:31.000We'll get to more of this in just one second.
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00:26:09.000Okay, so, in other pieces of good news, a field hospital is being set up in New York City right now.
00:26:15.000Dozens of people working in a drizzle to erect the facility for an expected influx of COVID-19 patients at the epicenter of this coronavirus pandemic were working throughout the day yesterday.
00:26:24.000This is according to Yahoo News and Agence France-Presse, the AFP.
00:26:27.000Samaritan's Purse, a U.S.-based global relief agency, is setting up the hospital on the park's East Meadow lawn.
00:26:32.000Workers in face masks are unloading a white tarp and other equipment on the grass.
00:26:34.000They've already set up the Javits Center as well, so we are quickly ramping up capacity in New York City, which is deeply important.
00:26:40.000A piece of actual good news is that in Washington state, Which entered into the social distancing measures and the stay-at-home measures early, they have seen a drop-off in the number of new cases.
00:26:51.000According to the New York Times, the Seattle area, home of the first known coronavirus case in the United States and the place where the virus claimed 37 of its first 50 victims, that old age home.
00:27:00.000is now seeing evidence that strict containment strategies imposed in the earliest days of the outbreak are beginning to pay off at least for the moment.
00:27:06.000Deaths are not rising as fast as they are in other states.
00:27:09.000Dramatic declines in street traffic show people are staying home.
00:27:13.000Preliminary statistical models provided to public officials in Washington state suggest the spread of the virus has slowed in Seattle in recent days.
00:27:19.000While each infected person was spreading the virus to an average of 2.7 other people earlier in March, that number has dropped.
00:27:25.000One projection suggests that in the Seattle area, it's now down to 1.4, which is more in line with the seasonal flu.
00:27:30.000The researchers preparing the latest projections, led by the Institute for Disease Modeling, which is a private research group in Bellevue, have been watching a variety of data points since the onset of the outbreak.
00:27:39.000They include tens of thousands of coronavirus test results, deaths, mobility information including traffic patterns, and movements of Facebook users to estimate the rate at which coronavirus patients are spreading the disease.
00:27:48.000The progress is precarious, but The findings offer a measure of hope that the emergency measures disrupting life will, in fact, bend the curve.
00:27:54.000Now, with all of that said, stay home.
00:28:00.000It is one thing to be out in some rural areas of the United States where there's not a ton of evidence that coronavirus exists, and treating every area of the United States as though it is equivalent would be foolish.
00:28:08.000Seattle, New York, LA, these are not the same as podunk Iowa.
00:28:13.000Although, major cities in Iowa are getting hit, by the way.
00:28:15.000I mean, there have been Thousands of cases across the Midwest in the United States that have already been diagnosed, but if you are attending megachurches in Louisiana, Ohio, Florida, do not do this.
00:28:28.000And I speak as a member of the Orthodox Jewish community, where they have been canceling all of the minyanim, right?
00:28:34.000Which are the biblically mandated, biblically mandated events where you are supposed to, where you're supposed to pray with 10 other men.
00:28:42.000Those have been cancelled all over the place.
00:28:43.000One of the reasons they've been cancelled is because we have seen widespread of cases from synagogues, from orthodox synagogues where people continue to go despite the recommendations not to go, from weddings where people were not supposed to go but they were showing up anyway for the weddings.
00:28:59.000I personally know of several cases in my community alone of people who have come down with coronavirus because they went to weddings not in this city.
00:29:08.000They went to a wedding in a different city, and they ended up coming down with coronavirus.
00:29:12.000A lot of people ended up getting it because weddings happen to be a place where it's pretty easy to pass.
00:29:15.000Lots of dancing, lots of sweating, lots of celebrating and drinking and eating and all of that.
00:29:20.000Right now is not the time to be attending the megachurch.
00:29:24.000And anybody who sort of buys into the prosperity gospel motion that you can avoid coronavirus by going to church or going to synagogue or going to mosque, do not be a stupid.
00:29:54.000What we call in the Orthodox community, Gedolah Hador, meaning the people who are like the biggest rabbis in the Jewish community.
00:29:59.000They've been telling people to stay home because we have seen a fairly large outbreak, particularly in places like Crown Heights and Queens and some of these other areas that are heavily Jewish.
00:30:10.000In any case, Bill de Blasio, though, because he's an idiot, he goes too far.
00:30:12.000He says, OK, well, I want you to stay home or I'm going to shut down your synagogues permanently.
00:30:16.000You don't have the power to do that, Bill de Blasio.
00:30:26.000Even if you believe that this thing is overblown, by the way, even if you believe that in the end we're going to look back and say we went wild on this thing, you need to give the program a chance to work.
00:30:35.000Even if you think that the Tylenol wasn't necessary, you should take the Tylenol right now just in case it is.
00:30:40.000I mean, let's make the Pascals wager here, guys.
00:30:43.000And even if you're a skeptic, we're already in the midst of this thing.
00:32:39.000We're gonna get to a couple of pieces of practical advice for you in the midst of all this.
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00:34:10.000Okay, so let's talk about something real practical for a second.
00:34:20.000I sent this to my parents, so I figured that it might be useful for you as well.
00:34:24.000There are a lot of people right now who are taking takeout meals, people who are taking packages from Amazon, and you read all these articles about how long these viruses can live on surfaces and it freaks you out.
00:34:36.000There's a good article by Joseph Allen, Assistant Professor of Exposure and Assessment Science and Director of the Healthy Buildings Program at Harvard, and he talks about exactly how you should handle packages, and I feel like this is some practical advice that everybody should know.
00:34:48.000He says, a recent study in the New England Journal of Medicine is making people think twice about how they might be exposed to COVID-19 if they open a box delivered by UPS, touch packages at the grocery store, or accept food delivery.
00:34:59.000He says disease transmission from inanimate surfaces is real, so he's not minimizing that.
00:35:03.000In the New England Journal of Medicine study, there's a finding that grabs headlines that says the coronavirus can be detectable up to four hours on copper, 24 hours on cardboard, two to three days on plastic, and stainless steel.
00:35:13.000But that's detectable, not that you're going to get coronavirus from the actual touching of the package.
00:35:19.000The virus, says this professor, can be detected on some surfaces for up to a day.
00:35:22.000The reality is that the levels do drop off quickly.
00:35:25.000For example, the article shows the virus's half-life on stainless steel and plastic is 5.6 hours, 6.8 hours, respectively.
00:35:31.000Half-life is how long it takes for the viral load to decrease by half and then by half and then by half and then by half.
00:35:35.000So he says, let's examine the full causal chain that would have to exist for you to get sick from a contaminated Amazon package at your door or a gallon of milk from the grocery store.
00:35:42.000In the case of the Amazon package, the driver would have to be infected and still working despite limited symptoms.
00:35:47.000Let's say they wiped their nose, didn't wash their hands, and then transferred some of the virus to your package.
00:35:50.000Even then, there's lag time from when they transferred the virus until you packed up your package at the door.
00:35:56.000In the worst case scenario, a visibly sick driver picks up your package from the truck, walks to your front door, sneezes into their hands, or directly on the package immediately before they hand it to you.
00:36:04.000Even in that highly unlikely scenario, you can break the causal chain.
00:36:09.000So what you should do, presumably, is to cut the chain.
00:36:11.000You can leave the cardboard package at your door for a few hours, or you can bring it inside and leave it right inside your door and then wash your hands again.
00:36:17.000If you're still concerned there was any virus on the package, you could wipe down the exterior with a disinfectant, or open it outdoors and put the package in the recycling can and then wash your hands.
00:36:27.000I personally receive all the packages at my house.
00:36:28.000When they come, I immediately slap on a pair of surgical gloves, I rip open the package, I throw it in the garbage, I walk inside, I throw out the surgical gloves, and I wash my hands.
00:36:37.000And that's, I think, the paranoid way to do this.
00:36:39.000And paranoia at this point is not the worst thing in the world.
00:36:44.000Keeping six feet from other customers, says this professor.
00:36:47.000Load items into your cart or basket, keep your hands away from your face while you shop, wash them as soon as you are home, put away your groceries, and then wash your hands again.
00:36:54.000If you wait even a few hours before you use anything, most of the virus will be significantly reduced.
00:36:58.000If you need to use something immediately, wipe the package down and wipe off all your fruits and vegetables just the way that you normally would, wash them off in the sink.
00:37:04.000So, just feel like that's good information that everybody should have because people are so paranoid.
00:37:08.000You think that you touch anything, the floor is lava, you're gonna die.
00:37:13.000Meanwhile, I do have to point out the trend that has been happening here, which is that the media have been suggesting that the Trump administration uniquely got things wrong.
00:37:49.000And we don't know anything in part because China is lying to us.
00:37:52.000There's some fairly good evidence That China has been lying dramatically, considering that, I mean, there's seriously an article from Radio Free Asia suggesting that there may be 40,000 dead people in Wuhan province, right?
00:38:08.000They've said there's like 3,000 or 2,500.
00:38:13.000According to Radio Free Asia, as authorities lifted a two-month coronavirus lockdown in the central Chinese city of Wuhan, residents said they were growing increasingly skeptical that the figure of some 2,500 deaths in the city to date was accurate.
00:38:24.000Since the start of the week, seven large funeral homes in Wuhan have been handing out the cremated remains of about 500 people to their families every single day, suggesting that far more people died than ever made the official statistics.
00:38:35.000A Wuhan resident said, it can't be right.
00:38:37.000The incinerators have been working around the clock.
00:38:40.000Seven funeral homes currently serve Wuhan, Hankou, Wuchang, and Hanyang.
00:38:48.000Social media users have been doing some basic math to figure out their daily capacity.
00:38:52.000The news website Kexin reported that Orcasian, don't know how to pronounce it, reported that 5,000 urns had been delivered by a supplier to Hankow Funeral Home in one day alone, which is double the official number of deaths total.
00:39:04.000Some social media posts have estimated all seven funeral homes in Wuhan are handing out 3,500 urns every single day.
00:39:10.000Funeral homes have informed families they'll try to complete cremations before the traditional grave-tending festival of King Ming on April 5th.
00:39:16.000That would indicate a 12-day process beginning March 23rd.
00:39:19.000Such an estimate would mean 42,000 urns would be given out during that time.
00:39:25.000Another popular estimate is based on cremation capacity of the funeral homes, which run a total of 84 furnaces with a capacity over 24 hours of 1,560 urns citywide, assuming one cremation per hour.
00:39:35.000That calculation results in nearly 47,000 deaths.
00:39:38.000So China has been lying about this all along.
00:39:40.000That's why when you see the media accepting Chinese statistics, They're doing the work of a Chinese autocracy that lied about this thing and then released it on the world.
00:39:48.000I mean, China's gonna have to pay for this in some way.
00:39:53.000By the way, the head of emergency at Wuhan tried to go public with this stuff months ago and then magically was disappeared by the Chinese government.
00:40:05.000Also, the WHO, right, which is supposed to be the trusted source in all of this, the WHO, the World Health Organization, that originally bought China's lie, there was no human-to-human transmission, and they bought it for like a month.
00:40:15.000The WHO was asked over the weekend about whether, by someone in Chinese media, I believe this is in Hong Kong, which means that it's run by China at this point, because Hong Kong is a democracy in name only.
00:40:27.000That's why they had the giant protest all of last year.
00:40:30.000One of the heads of the WHO was asked whether they would reconsider Taiwan's independent membership.
00:40:35.000And the WHO refused to say because they are in hock to the Chinese.
00:40:38.000The WHO is basically, they're making it obvious every day they are a corrupt organization that is willing to accept bad information from the Chinese government.
00:40:56.000It's an independent nation, and the West certainly has a priority in protecting Taiwan from Chinese predations.
00:41:01.000One of the great tragedies in human history is that Chiang Kai-shek's armies were defeated by Mao Tse-tung, and he was driven off the continent into Taiwan.
00:41:07.000In any case, the WHO refuses to say whether they would reconsider Taiwan's membership.
00:41:52.000Okay, so when everybody talks about how the Trump administration screwed this up, okay, there's duplicity and then there's just screwing up.
00:41:57.000Okay, the duplicity comes from the Chinese government.
00:42:00.000And honest to God, they've killed tens of thousands of people with this thing.
00:42:03.000Hundreds of thousands of people will likely die because the Chinese government is an evil autocracy.
00:42:08.000When it comes to what happened in the United States, what we should never forget is that the same government that we trust to fix all of our problems blew this one on every possible level and has been blowing it for years.
00:42:18.000And that holds between administrations.
00:42:21.000On the one hand, there are people who are suggesting it was just Trump.
00:42:23.000And they're citing the fact that the United States did not ramp up their testing capacity in February and that they missed the boat, which is true.
00:42:35.000There's an entire article in the New York Times talking about the failures of the federal government during February.
00:42:41.000They say, early on, the dozen federal officials charged with defending America against coronavirus gathered day after day in the White House Situation Room, consumed by crises.
00:42:48.000They grappled with how to evacuate the U.S.
00:42:50.000consulate in Wuhan, China, ban Chinese travelers, extract Americans from the Diamond Princess and other cruise ships, The members of the Coronavirus Task Force typically devoted only 5 or 10 minutes, often at the end of contentious meetings, to talk about testing.
00:43:01.000The CDC, its leaders assured the others, had developed a diagnostic model that would be rolled out quickly as a first step.
00:43:06.000But large-scale testing of people who might have been infected did not happen because of technical flaws, regulatory hurdles, business-as-usual bureaucracies, lack of leadership at multiple levels, according to interviews with more than 50 current and former public health officials, administration officials, senior scientists, and company executives.
00:43:21.000The result was a lost month when the world's richest country, armed with some of the most highly trained scientists and infectious disease specialists, squandered its best chance of containing the virus's spread.
00:43:31.000Instead, Americans were left largely blind to the scale of a looming public health catastrophe.
00:44:18.000would experience a critical lack of ventilators and other life-saving medical supplies if it faced a viral outbreak like the one currently sweeping the country.
00:44:24.000The drumbeat of warnings undermines President Trump's claim last week nobody in their wildest dream could have imagined the demand for ventilators that now exists.
00:44:31.000Okay, well that's true, but why weren't the ventilators there from the Obama administration then?
00:44:36.000So in other words, everybody missed it.
00:44:37.000And this is one of the things that drives me nuts is the rush to the partisan politics of pandemics when everybody blew it.
00:44:44.000See, I've said before that government is more veep than it is house of cards.
00:44:47.000In other words, it is not a bunch of clever people around a table making calculated decisions about how to advance their interests.
00:44:54.000It's all the people you work with except with actual power.
00:44:57.000And when they blow it, they blow it big time.
00:44:59.000And so it turns very quickly from comedy to tragedy because them blowing it every day doesn't have tremendous ramifications for you until it absolutely does.
00:45:09.000If you think government is good for everything, then you think government is good for this too.
00:45:13.000But if you think government has one job and they blow the one job, it should undermine your trust in government that the government blows it this way every single time there's a major crisis.
00:45:20.000When's the last time there was a major crisis the government didn't blow it?
00:45:23.000Now, we mobilize quickly, we respond quickly, but the government always blows it because the government is staffed by human beings.
00:45:29.000And if you're going to tell me that the United States has handled this worse than any other country, there's literally like two countries that handled it decently.
00:45:35.000South Korea is one, and that's because they actually prepped in the aftermath of a pandemic that nailed them with SARS.
00:45:40.000Okay, but Italy is getting hit way harder than we are.
00:45:58.000Okay, the suckage is not unique to one side.
00:46:00.000It's not like Trump handled this way better than Obama would have, or Obama would have handled this so much better than Trump did.
00:46:05.000I have no evidence of that whatsoever.
00:46:07.000Again, this report from the New York Times, from CNN, suggests that there was a May 2003 GAO report saying that there needs to be more medical equipment.
00:46:16.000A 2005 Congressional Research Service report An HHS report that same month in November 2005.
00:46:32.000A 2009 report by the Executive Office to the President that said that they might need mechanical ventilation that could reach 10 to 25 per 100,000 population.
00:46:40.000Which, if you multiply that out, that would be 30,000 to 60,000 ventilators, which is exactly what we're talking about right now.
00:46:50.000A 2015 study from the DHHS and the Center for Disease Control suggesting that we might need an additional 7,000 to 11,000 ventilators.
00:46:59.000And in a high severity scenario, at least 60,000 additional ventilators.
00:48:14.000Everybody was working with the information we had and trying, of course, to avoid panic.
00:48:20.000And at that point, for all of us, trying to keep, not only protect lives, but keep the economy and the livelihoods together.
00:48:28.000Okay, so weird how he shifted his tune.
00:48:30.000By the way, speaking of people who have shifted their tunes, so Nancy Pelosi yesterday, she did a press conference and she said, as the president fiddles, people are dying, right?
00:48:38.000The president is just messing around while people are dying.
00:48:40.000Well, here she was with Jake Tapper being asked about it.
00:48:43.000His denial at the beginning was deadly.
00:48:47.000His delaying of getting equipment to where It continues.
00:48:53.000His delay in getting equipment to where it's needed is deadly.
00:48:56.000What did he know and when did he know it?
00:49:30.000And now, of course, it's President Trump downplayed it.
00:49:32.000What would you call it if you went to Chinatown, where presumably there are lots of travelers from China, in Chinatown, in the middle of a pandemic, and you suggested everybody should come out and join you, Nancy Pelosi?
00:50:45.000Not in a panic, but also in a pandemic, obviously, you may have the only option maybe to rely on government.
00:50:51.000But this just suggests why we should not be relying on government in nearly any other circumstance, like at all, ever.
00:50:56.000Because they suck at things, and then they blame each other for sucking at things.
00:51:01.000Honest to God, they all suck at everything.
00:51:03.000This has not shaken my fundamental faith in the basic principle, which is that your government is brutally incompetent, that it can mobilize eventually to do some of the right things, but if you ever have the option of not relying on the government, you should absolutely take it.
00:51:17.000Okay, time for some things I like and then a thing that I hate.
00:51:21.000So, speaking of governments that are brutal and authoritarian, Henry Hazlitt, who wrote one of my favorite books, Economics in One Lesson.
00:51:27.000I've recommended that book many, many times to people.
00:51:30.000If people say, I only have time to read one book, what should it be?
00:51:32.000I usually recommend Henry Hazlitt's Economics in One Lesson.
00:51:35.000It's a great take on libertarian economics and how the economy ought to work and why government regulations stifle the economy.
00:51:41.000He actually wrote a novel that very few people have read called Time Will Run Back.
00:51:45.000And the basic premise is that there is a son of a dictator who's obviously Stalin slash Lenin.
00:51:50.000And the son is put in charge of the Soviet Union.
00:51:54.000This is written in like the late 40s and about the same time as 1984.
00:51:59.000And that he realizes that why communism is a failure and he starts to gradually liberalize the economy of the Soviet Union.
00:52:06.000But this is like taking place 200 years in the future when the Soviet Union now dominates the entire earth.
00:52:53.000Got some time on your hands anyway, so go pick up a copy.
00:52:55.000And if you can't get your kids to digest economics straight, then this is a pretty good elucidation of the differences between capitalism and communism, capitalism and Marxism.
00:53:03.000State ownership and private ownership of the means of production by Henry Hazlitt.
00:53:08.000Okay, time for some things that I hate.
00:53:14.000So, as I have been saying, one of the big problems in the midst of a pandemic is because you have to rely on government in the midst of a pandemic, crises become the locus of government control.
00:53:23.000It's something we ought to be very careful about here in the United States.
00:53:31.000It's why when we were looking at the bailout plans, I was very focused on what here is temporary and what here is permanent, because Democrats would love to make all of these bailouts permanent.
00:53:39.000They'd love to have permanent UBI, universal basic income.
00:53:42.000They would love to have huge swaths of American industry owned directly by the government.
00:53:47.000Democrats want to make emergency situations permanent, specifically so that governments can maximize its power.
00:53:53.000That is one of the One of the times that I've been proudest of President Trump was he was asked about why he had not authorized the Defense Production Act more robustly.
00:54:01.000And he said, because nationalization is generally a bad thing.
00:54:07.000And you're starting to see around the world, authoritarians taking the reins of power and then maximizing that power in order to deal with the pandemic and probably having very few plans to give it up.
00:54:16.000So you've already seen it in Russia, right?
00:54:17.000There are no stats out of Russia on how many deaths they've had on COVID, but they're apparently locking everybody down.
00:54:22.000And in the midst of all of this, Vladimir Putin has been consolidating his political control.
00:54:26.000He started it before COVID and now he's maximizing that.
00:54:29.000Meanwhile, the Hungarian parliament just passed a bill That gives Prime Minister Viktor Orban unlimited power and proclaims a state of emergency with no time limit, rule by decree, a suspension of parliament, no elections.
00:54:41.000If you spread fake news or rumors, you can get up to five years in prison, supposedly.
00:54:45.000And if you leave quarantine, you can get up to eight years in prison.
00:54:49.000Which sounds very much like a dictatorship if there is no time limit to that decree.
00:54:55.000Meanwhile, obviously in China, they have been shunting people off to work camps, presumably, or killing them, if they talk openly about this stuff, and then lying about everything else.
00:55:04.000According to the Wall Street Journal, With much of the world on lockdown, the coronavirus pandemic has chipped away at individual liberties everywhere.
00:55:11.000In more places, it is being used as an excuse to weaken democratic institutions and oversight, an authoritarian slide that could endure once the current health emergency subsides.
00:55:19.000In Russia, President Vladimir Putin this month pushed through Parliament the removal of term limits, ensuring he could remain in power for life.
00:55:24.000In Bolivia, the interim and unelected government has cancelled presidential elections slated for May.
00:55:29.000In Hungary, Prime Minister Orban just moved ahead with the legislation I just mentioned.
00:55:33.000In Israel, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party used the coronavirus to prevent the opposition, which gained a majority of seats in the March 2nd elections, from taking control of parliamentary proceedings.
00:55:43.000Well, that's not completely fair, right?
00:55:45.000The last one on Israel is not completely... The reason I say that's not fair is because what basically happened is that Benny Gantz, who was the head of the Blue and White Party, not to get into, you know, too many details with regard to Israeli politics.
00:55:55.000There are two major parties in Israel right now, Likud, which is led by Benjamin Netanyahu, and Benny Gantz's Blue and White Party.
00:56:02.000The Blue and White Party is basically an anti-Netanyahu coalition.
00:56:05.000And Benny Gantz decided, listen, we can't have another election in the midst of a pandemic.
00:56:08.000I will take the deal that Netanyahu offers, which is a rotating prime ministership where I am foreign minister.
00:56:13.000That retains Netanyahu as prime minister up until, I believe, September 2021.
00:56:16.000Benny Gantz ends up as foreign minister until then.
00:56:19.000That actually split the Blue and White Party because half of his own party walked out and said, we're not cutting any deal with Netanyahu, which basically gives Netanyahu an enormous coalition.
00:56:27.000And there's no way he gets thrown out of office barring an actual criminal proceeding at this point.
00:56:34.000But put Israel aside, the rest of these cases are cases where authoritarian governments are maximizing their power.
00:56:41.000The gravity of the coronavirus pandemic, which just in two weeks has killed several thousand people in Europe and the United States, according to the Wall Street Journal, has already generated unprecedented restrictions on fundamental liberties in much of the West.
00:56:52.000These restrictions, if they lead to postponement of elections in some countries, don't by themselves alter a nation's democratic nature.
00:56:57.000The UK remains a democracy through World War II, despite draconian wartime legislation.
00:57:02.000That was true in the United States as well.
00:57:04.000But the question is going to be how long this lasts beyond.
00:57:07.000Because obviously we've seen authoritarians rise in places ranging from the Philippines to Turkey.
00:57:13.000How much will these measures stay in place after the emergency is over?
00:57:16.000This is why I mentioned earlier when Bill de Blasio says that if you violate his orders regarding staying home from synagogue, he is going to shut down your building permanently.
00:57:25.000That's where you start to run into serious constitutional concerns and concerns about basic fundamental civil liberties.
00:57:31.000Meanwhile, China's propaganda apparatus has already launched an all-out effort at home and abroad to portray It's ability to contain the virus as a testament to the superiority of its party-state system.
00:57:42.000And you're starting to see members of the media repeat this garbage.
00:57:44.000Members of the media will say, look at how China locked this thing down.
00:57:47.000Isn't it amazing how China locked this thing down?
00:57:49.000Look how authoritarianism is so great.
00:57:51.000I remember years ago, Thomas Friedman expressed his sort of wonderment at the Chinese one-party system in true Walter Durante fashion.
00:57:58.000Walter Durante was the columnist for the New York Times who went over to the Soviet Union, completely ignored the fact that they were starving millions of people in Ukraine and talked about how he had seen the future and it was working.
00:58:08.000Yeah, well, you've seen the same thing from journalists since time immemorial.
00:58:11.000Edward Snow was a journalist, I believe, for the New York Times, who went to Mao's China and walked around with Mao and came away with the conclusion that China was a wonderful, great, authoritarian state.
00:58:23.000Well, now you're seeing the same sort of stuff from many journalists with regard to China.
00:58:25.000Look at a wonderful job they did locking this whole thing down.
00:58:31.000If you buy their lies, you are forwarding their lies.
00:58:33.000I don't know why in the world you'd want to forward the aspirations of the Chinese Communist regime, one of the worst regimes on planet Earth, if not the worst regime on planet Earth, by buying the lie that they locked this thing down with alacrity and suddenly they are some sort of altruistic nation.
00:58:46.000I've seen so many journalists, I can't even tell you, who are repeating Chinese propaganda, and it's astonishing to me.
00:58:57.000Did we weld people in their houses and then allow 5 million people to leave the region from a pandemic zone and move into the rest of the world?
00:59:18.000Russian military trucks laden with surprise are parading through the streets of Italy this week in order to demonstrate that Russia is in fact handling this thing supremely well.
00:59:26.000The initial wavering and slow decision-making that allowed the virus to spread in Europe and the U.S.
00:59:29.000have been described with near glee on Russian TV.
00:59:31.000Although, again, we have no information from inside the Kremlin on how this thing is going because, of course, the Kremlin is not going to release any of that information.
00:59:39.000Moscow insists it's able to keep the infection at relatively low levels, despite reports of many hidden cases, and has not imposed a lockdown so far.
00:59:47.000Andrei Kortunov, Director General of the Russian International Affairs Council, says as far as the Russian leadership is concerned, this crisis confirms its worldview that Western systems are inefficient, that the liberal political model simply can't cope.
00:59:58.000Okay, alternatively, what's happening is that authoritarian states are using a crisis in order to maximize their authoritarianism.
01:00:36.000The fact is that authoritarians are always gonna maximize their power.
01:00:39.000Do not be complicit by repeating the propaganda they put out there in order to maximize their system's supposed credibility at the expense of democracies, which, yes, react slowly, but do react better and actually respect the rights of their citizens when these things are over.
01:00:52.000Okay, so we'll be back here later today with two additional hours of content.
01:00:54.000Plus, five o'clock tonight, I'll be back here hanging out with you.
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