The Ben Shapiro Show - June 15, 2023


The Woke Lynching of Daniel Penny


Episode Stats

Length

49 minutes

Words per Minute

211.80716

Word Count

10,548

Sentence Count

739

Misogynist Sentences

25

Hate Speech Sentences

15


Summary

In the wake of the death of a crazed black homeless man on the New York subway system, what does it mean for interracial crime in the United States? What role does the criminal justice system play when it comes to interracial crimes? And what role does it play in the case of Daniel Penney and Jordan Neely, the crazed homeless man who was shot and killed by a white police officer on the subway system in New York City? In this episode of the podcast, we discuss the possibility that a black person should have been charged for Neely's death, and why it's not likely that a white person would ever be charged for a crime committed by another black person. We also discuss the two-tiered system of justice in the U.S. justice system, and the role of the military in providing support to law enforcement officers and other law enforcement agencies, and whether or not they should be held accountable for crimes committed by black and white citizens in interracial cases. In other words, what are the chances that a Black person will end up in jail for an Interracial crime? What is the likelihood that a White person will be charged in a case like this? Is it even a case at all? How likely is it even possible? We'll talk about that, and how it might impact the outcome of this case, and what we should do about it? This episode is brought to you by Alex Blumberg, the host of The Sentencing Project, a podcast that focuses on the intersection of race and justice in American law enforcement and criminal justice, and law enforcement, and policing, and our relationship with race, justice and the law enforcement in America's justice system. Music: Fair Weathersparring, by The Good Fight Project, courtesy of NPR's "The Good Fight" and The Badger Project, produced by Tall Tales by Kevin McLeod, produced and produced by Ian McKirdy, a former NYPD detective and former NYPD Special Agent in Charge of the NYPD Special Operations Unit and the NYPD Tactical Crime Scene Unit, and edited by Rachel Ward, and a former Marine, and an NYPD Tactical Unit Chief, and Chief of Investigations, and Special Agent at the NYPD Investigations Division, and Assistant Chief of the Tactical Unit . in this episode, we talk about the Neely case and the circumstances surrounding his death and the aftermath of the incident, and review of the investigation.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Okay, if we really want to talk about the fact that there are two systems of justice in the United States, that splits in a wide variety of ways.
00:00:06.000 People have talked for a long time about two systems of justice applying when it comes to the rich versus the poor, for example.
00:00:11.000 If you can afford a really good lawyer, a really good lawyer makes it a lot easier to navigate the criminal justice system.
00:00:16.000 People have talked about A disparity in the criminal justice system between Republicans and Democrats.
00:00:20.000 And we'll get to that in a little bit with regard to Donald Trump's indictment versus the treatment of Hillary Clinton.
00:00:24.000 But there is also a two-tiered system of justice when it comes to people who are accused of crimes in blue cities who are white versus people who are accused of crimes in blue cities who are black.
00:00:34.000 And that is particularly true when it comes to interracial crime.
00:00:38.000 When it comes to intraracial crime, well, then the disparity goes away.
00:00:42.000 In the sense that if a black person victimizes a black person, pretty good shot that the victimizer will go to jail.
00:00:47.000 And if a white person victimizes a white person, pretty good shot that the white person is going to go to jail.
00:00:51.000 But, if a black person victimizes a white person, the chances that that person is going to end up indicted for a bad reason, as opposed to a white person victimizing a black person, that they will get an equivalent sentence, Those chances are just not the same and we all know it.
00:01:06.000 That's particularly true if you're talking about a controversial circumstance in which it is unclear whether a crime was even committed.
00:01:11.000 So take, for example, a case in which a crazed white homeless person is subdued by a law-abiding black American Marine who subdues him and then the white person dies.
00:01:22.000 Do you think that black person is going to end up in the dock, indicted by a grand jury, and The answer, of course, is no.
00:01:30.000 That is not a thing that would cross any prosecutor's mind.
00:01:32.000 It would not end up in a courtroom.
00:01:34.000 However, if a white person does it, and the person in question who died is a crazed homeless Black person who is threatening people on the subway system, then the white person may end up in jail for the rest of his life.
00:01:46.000 And that is the case currently with Daniel Penney.
00:01:48.000 So we all remember the video on the New York subway system of a crazed black homeless person named Jordan Neely
00:01:54.000 who assaulted old women, abused people on the streets, routinely threatened people.
00:01:59.000 There's an outstanding warrant for him.
00:02:01.000 He was on the subway system and he was openly threatening people
00:02:03.000 according to the other people on the subway system.
00:02:05.000 And he was subdued eventually by US Marine Daniel Penny.
00:02:09.000 Penny came up behind him and he put him in a submission hold.
00:02:11.000 I call it a submission hold and not a choke hold because the notion of a choke hold,
00:02:15.000 which is they're basically the same thing, but the idea of a choke hold
00:02:18.000 is typically to cut off air supply, whereas a submission hold is very often
00:02:23.000 Blood supply is meant to basically put you to sleep, it's a sleeper hold, whereas cutting off your air supply typically can kill you.
00:02:28.000 So, not quite the same thing in terms of how we colloquially use these terms, even if legally speaking they are the same thing.
00:02:34.000 There's no question that Daniel Penney did not mean to kill Jordan Neely.
00:02:39.000 And Jordan Neely, in all likelihood, we haven't seen the toxicology report yet.
00:02:42.000 I would be shocked if he was not high as a kite because, again, if you are a homeless person who's living on the streets of New York acting erratically, there's a very good shot statistically that you are high as a kite.
00:02:49.000 We know that Jordan Neely also had a history of drug use and drug abuse.
00:02:53.000 And so in this particular case, we also know from the video that there was a black man who was helping hold Jordan Neely down because he was thrashing about and still apparently attempting a violent.
00:03:02.000 There's a Hispanic man also involved.
00:03:04.000 It was like a cross-racial crew of people attempting to stop this person from threatening people on the subway system.
00:03:10.000 And eventually, Jordan Neely goes non-responsive.
00:03:12.000 When he goes non-responsive, the three of them turn him into the prone position on his side so he doesn't choke on his own phlegm or his own spit or his own tongue.
00:03:18.000 And by the time EMT arrives, he's already essentially dead.
00:03:22.000 That's the story.
00:03:23.000 Well, in any normal circumstance, when a person gets threatening to women, children, other people on a subway system, and then is put into some sort of submission by a person who actually knows what they are doing physically, and Daniel Penney had actually trained people in terms of takedowns.
00:03:37.000 In the U.S.
00:03:37.000 military.
00:03:38.000 When that sort of thing happens, you don't prosecute the person who's responsible for defending the life and limb of innocent citizens from a crazed homeless person on the subway.
00:03:46.000 And yet, that is precisely what's happening in New York.
00:03:48.000 And the reason that's happening is because Daniel Penney is white.
00:03:50.000 There's just no other way to read this.
00:03:51.000 If Daniel Penney were a black man, this would not be in court.
00:03:54.000 According to ABC News, a grand jury has now indicted former U.S.
00:03:56.000 Marine Daniel Penney in connection with the chokehold death of Jordan Neely aboard a subway train.
00:04:00.000 The exact charges will not be unsealed until Penney appears in a court at a later date.
00:04:05.000 Penny was initially arrested on a second-degree manslaughter charge.
00:04:09.000 Some witnesses told police that Neely was yelling and harassing passengers on the train, according to authorities.
00:04:12.000 Now, the media immediately went into spin mode after this incident, and they released old tape of Jordan Neely dancing like Michael Jackson.
00:04:19.000 And, ah, this innocent Michael Jackson impersonator.
00:04:21.000 This innocent Michael Jackson impersonator.
00:04:23.000 He was just dancing his life away when he was accosted and attacked by this evil white person.
00:04:29.000 But, of course, the reality is that Jordan Neely Had a long history of arrests.
00:04:35.000 42 prior arrests on charges ranging from evading fares and theft to assaults on three different women.
00:04:40.000 He had pled guilty to assaulting a 67-year-old woman leaving a subway station just back in 2021.
00:04:46.000 And yet the media do what they typically do in a case in which the alleged perpetrator is white and the alleged victim is black.
00:04:53.000 Very often, they will find you a picture of the most innocent that the person who's black has ever been, right?
00:04:59.000 This is what happened with Michael Brown.
00:05:00.000 When Michael Brown was shot by an officer in Ferguson, Missouri after attempting to grab the officer's gun.
00:05:06.000 The pictures that you saw were not of Michael Brown in any sort of thug pose or him beating up a store owner five minutes before.
00:05:15.000 What you saw was his graduation photo.
00:05:17.000 And you see this very often.
00:05:18.000 The media immediately attempt to go to their defined narrative of innocent black man killed for no reason by terrible white person.
00:05:27.000 Now, again, other people on the train have already said, publicly, to the media, that Neely was threatening people.
00:05:32.000 Penny held Neely for several minutes.
00:05:33.000 At some point, Neely stopped moving.
00:05:35.000 Penny held him for a longer period of time.
00:05:36.000 But you can see on the tape that he's kind of thrashing about until he's not thrashing about anymore.
00:05:41.000 The medical examiner determined that Jordan Neely was killed by a chokehold.
00:05:43.000 His death was ruled a homicide.
00:05:44.000 Now, typically, when you say that somebody's death is ruled a homicide, that doesn't mean it was a murder.
00:05:49.000 A homicide just means you didn't die of quote-unquote natural causes.
00:05:53.000 Okay, but again, this is a perfect example.
00:05:55.000 What is the picture that ABC News uses in order to promote this story?
00:05:59.000 It's a picture of Jordan Neely from 2009.
00:06:01.000 Okay, from 2009 where he's dressed up as Michael Jackson seeing This Is It outside Regal Cinemas.
00:06:07.000 That's the picture that they use, not the picture of him screaming and yelling at people or the picture of him punching an old lady.
00:06:13.000 Apparently, Steinglass said prosecutors conducted a thorough investigation that included interviews with eyewitnesses, 911 callers, and responding officers before moving forward with a criminal charge.
00:06:23.000 Neely had a long documented mental health history and his family has of course come out of the woodwork with the help of Benjamin Crump apparently.
00:06:30.000 to try to sue because this is typically the way that this works.
00:06:33.000 The family that was nowhere to be found when this unfortunate homeless crazed person was alive suddenly emerges from the woodwork when tragedy occurs.
00:06:41.000 In a second, we'll get to Daniel Penny's account of the incident.
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00:07:44.000 Okay, so, Daniel Penny?
00:07:46.000 Some people say I was trying to choke him to death, which is also not true.
00:07:49.000 I was trying to restrain him.
00:07:51.000 You can see in the video, there's a clear rise and fall of his chest, indicating that he's breathing.
00:07:54.000 especially after the restraint was let go.
00:08:17.000 I didn't see a black man threatening passengers.
00:08:20.000 I saw a man threatening passengers.
00:08:23.000 A lot of whom were people of color.
00:08:27.000 Okay, and all of that, you know, presumably went by the wayside when the grand jury decided to indict.
00:08:32.000 Now, they do say that a grand jury will indict a ham sandwich, right?
00:08:35.000 And this is a frequent phrase in American criminal law.
00:08:37.000 It's not hard to get a grand jury to indict.
00:08:38.000 But the fact is that no reasonable prosecutor will bring this case.
00:08:41.000 You're talking about a case of reasonable doubt.
00:08:43.000 But here's the thing.
00:08:44.000 Reasonable doubt cases turn into not reasonable doubt cases in the United States when the races are wrong.
00:08:49.000 That's the way this works.
00:08:50.000 And this is the reason Derek Chauvin is currently in prison.
00:08:52.000 I'm about to say a very unpopular thing, but this is what I do because the thing happens to be true.
00:08:57.000 George Floyd is not dead because Derek Chauvin put a chokehold on him.
00:09:01.000 Or because he was putting pressure on his neck.
00:09:03.000 There was no damage to George Floyd's neck.
00:09:05.000 George Floyd was in a state of excited delirium by the medical evidence.
00:09:08.000 He was already saying he could not breathe when he was in the car.
00:09:11.000 He was begging to be let out of the car.
00:09:12.000 And the best available footage, as the prosecution itself admitted, involved Derek Chauvin on his shoulder, not on his neck.
00:09:19.000 But the fact is that Derek Chauvin was a white man, and George Floyd was a black man, and the video was ugly, and therefore, Derek Chauvin will now spend the rest of his life in prison, even though in any normal situation, if there was a black officer and there was a black man on the ground, that officer would not be in prison right now.
00:09:31.000 If there were a white officer and a white man on the ground, that officer would not be in prison right now.
00:09:36.000 But this is the way that our justice system works.
00:09:37.000 And talk about a two track justice system.
00:09:39.000 If it fits the narrative, you may find yourself in jail for the rest of your life.
00:09:42.000 Daniel Penney described the situation on the New York City subway.
00:09:46.000 He said, Jordan Neely was in fact threatening a lot of people.
00:09:49.000 He said, good morning America.
00:09:51.000 The three main threats that he repeated over and over was, I'm going to kill you.
00:09:55.000 I'm prepared to go to jail for life.
00:09:57.000 And I'm willing to die.
00:09:58.000 Penny claims he was intimidated by Neely, who he says boarded the train and began yelling in passengers' faces.
00:10:05.000 I was scared for myself, but I looked around.
00:10:07.000 I saw women and children.
00:10:08.000 He was yelling in their faces, saying these threats.
00:10:13.000 I couldn't just sit still.
00:10:15.000 Okay, so normally you would consider that a heroic act.
00:10:18.000 When someone is threatening somebody on the subway system, threatening women and children on the subway system, and somebody stops them, you would normally consider that an act of heroism.
00:10:25.000 But again, the media saw the races.
00:10:26.000 All they saw was the colors.
00:10:27.000 And in this justice system, if the colors are wrong, that means that the media lynch mob.
00:10:31.000 It's not just, it's not common citizens.
00:10:33.000 It's not everyday common citizens who are driving lynch mobs anymore.
00:10:36.000 It is the media.
00:10:37.000 The media decides that somebody is worthy of being hamstrung for the rest of their life.
00:10:41.000 And then they whip people up into a lather, and then they unleash the lynch mob on the person.
00:10:46.000 And that is how people like Daniel Penny end up in the dock, when the truth is, they should be giving Daniel Penny the key to the city.
00:10:51.000 The fact is that New York City has not protected its own citizenry.
00:10:54.000 Either the crazed homeless people who are living on the street, who should not be living on the street, and who need treatment, or the people they are victimizing on the streets.
00:11:00.000 New York City has had dozens of people who have been assaulted on the subway system, pushed in front of trains, killed, And yet, none of that makes headlines.
00:11:09.000 The only thing that makes headlines is when the racial narrative stacks up.
00:11:12.000 So, guess what?
00:11:13.000 If you have a city where people are getting prosecuted for defending other people, and the cops are basically barred from actually enforcing the law in places like the New York City subway system, nobody's gonna ride the subways anymore.
00:11:24.000 Or if they do, then they are going to be subjected to the sort of behavior that Jordan Neely was subjecting people to, which included actual physical assault in at least one case, and two more cases, allegedly.
00:11:35.000 Like, at least three cases of alleged assault against the person who ended up dying in this particular circumstance.
00:11:40.000 Speaking of our two-tiered system of justice, Hillary Clinton was back out there at it.
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00:12:47.000 Okay, meanwhile...
00:12:48.000 The Donald Trump indictment has now moved forward, obviously, and Hillary Clinton is emerging from the woodwork.
00:12:53.000 The shameless sociopath who was exonerated of her similar behavior back in 2016 is now out there pretending that she is clean as the driven snow, while Donald Trump is dirty and evil.
00:13:04.000 So she's appearing on Pod Save America, which is a show made by people who used to work for Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
00:13:12.000 On behalf of people who like Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
00:13:14.000 So here is Hillary Clinton being interviewed slash slobbered on by John Lovett over at Pod Save America.
00:13:20.000 Now, again, I've told people a thousand times that this is an opinion show.
00:13:24.000 Pod Save America is an opinion show.
00:13:25.000 If you want to hear the different opinions, listen to my show, listen to their show, and then figure out what you think is true.
00:13:29.000 In any case, Hillary Clinton was on with John Lovett.
00:13:32.000 And she took the opportunity to talk about how it was literally impossible to defend Trump.
00:13:36.000 She does not own any mirrors.
00:13:38.000 There are no mirrors anywhere in a 300-mile vicinity of Hillary Clinton.
00:13:41.000 She has never owned a mirror, apparently.
00:13:42.000 I don't say that because of how she looks or anything.
00:13:44.000 I say that because she literally has no self-awareness.
00:13:46.000 It just does not occur to her.
00:13:48.000 Or it does occur to her and she doesn't care and she's a sociopath.
00:13:51.000 So, Hillary Clinton, you will recall, literally set up a private server in her home, like in her basement.
00:13:57.000 And she put a bunch of classified information on that private server and it ended up being farmed out to like a private server company that had their server in a bathroom.
00:14:06.000 And it was all very likely, according to the FBI, accessible to foreign sources and very well could have been stolen by foreign sources.
00:14:14.000 And then when she was questioned about it, she bleach bit the entire hard drive and all the emails went away.
00:14:19.000 And she claimed it was all just a bunch of stuff about yoga and wedding planning and all the rest.
00:14:23.000 And it turns out that that wasn't true because the emails reemerged on the computer of convict Anthony Weiner, who had an unfortunate pension for soliciting minors.
00:14:36.000 So yeah, that didn't seem real secure.
00:14:38.000 But none of it was a problem for Hillary Clinton.
00:14:39.000 She's out there claiming that she is wonderful and Donald Trump is the root of all evil.
00:14:43.000 And we can all see it.
00:14:44.000 We can all see it.
00:14:44.000 You wonder why Donald Trump was elected in the first place.
00:14:46.000 It's because of double standards like this.
00:14:47.000 It's the reason why he remains a viable candidate, despite the fact that his behavior in this particular scenario is really pretty egregious.
00:14:53.000 I gotta say, his behavior, according to the indictment, if the indictment is proved, is not the sort of behavior that you want anyone involved in.
00:14:59.000 Let alone a person who claims to really respect law and order and the classification standards of the American military, which is what Donald Trump was claiming back in 2016.
00:15:07.000 But all of that is irrelevant when the Democratic Party is full-scale dedicated to the idea that for my friends, anything, and for my enemies, the law.
00:15:14.000 And Hillary Clinton is just the best example of this.
00:15:17.000 They refuse to read the indictment.
00:15:19.000 They refuse to engage with the facts.
00:15:21.000 There's nothing new about that.
00:15:23.000 And what they refuse to admit is, you know, this is on a track about him, not about anybody else.
00:15:31.000 No matter how much they try to confuse people and how much they try to It's going to be fascinating, I guess, in a bizarre and sad way, to watch them spin themselves up.
00:15:47.000 If you watched any of the news programs this weekend, their efforts to defend this man are truly beyond anything that I ever thought possible in our country.
00:16:00.000 I love all the people on the stage from Crooked Media.
00:16:02.000 And there is the word crooked above her, which is funny.
00:16:04.000 I love all the people from Crooked Media nodding along with this nonsense.
00:16:07.000 They literally spent years defending Hillary Clinton's activities here and pretending it was but her emails.
00:16:11.000 No big deal.
00:16:12.000 Why are we even covering this sort of stuff?
00:16:13.000 And she's like, I can't believe people are spinning up in defense of Donald Trump.
00:16:17.000 I don't have to defend Donald Trump on these charges in order to point out the double standard.
00:16:21.000 That is obvious.
00:16:22.000 But Hillary has no self-awareness, which is why in the middle of all this, she tweeted out a photo of herself with a photoshopped hat that said, but her emails.
00:16:29.000 Yeah, we all see it, Hillary.
00:16:30.000 We all know.
00:16:30.000 We all know you got off and Donald Trump is not getting off.
00:16:33.000 We can all see that happening in real time, which is one of the reasons why so many people are motivated to vote for Donald Trump as sort of you've chosen the form of your destroyer.
00:16:40.000 Now he will come in the form of the Pillsbury president.
00:16:44.000 Stomping on New York City.
00:16:45.000 I mean, that is essentially what you guys are begging for.
00:16:48.000 Neal Katyal is doing the same routine.
00:16:49.000 He's the former principal deputy solicitor general.
00:16:52.000 And he, of course, worked in the administration of Barack Obama.
00:16:58.000 And here he was talking about how nobody ever would have charged Hillary Clinton.
00:17:01.000 I mean, yeah, we're charging Donald Trump, but nobody ever would have charged Hillary Clinton.
00:17:04.000 But we know you wouldn't have charged Hillary Clinton.
00:17:05.000 We know.
00:17:08.000 What all of this Hillary Clinton talk is is just classic Trumpian misdirection.
00:17:13.000 And, you know, back then, no reasonable prosecutor would have charged Hillary Clinton.
00:17:17.000 I think that's right.
00:17:18.000 That was based on the independent inspector general's report.
00:17:23.000 Nobody, no reasonable prosecutor, except for how she violated the law, but you know, no biggie, no biggie.
00:17:30.000 The double standard is perfectly obvious.
00:17:32.000 Perfectly obvious here.
00:17:34.000 Meanwhile, the Biden administration, which is responsible for the indictment of Donald Trump, is pretending that it's all happening because of independent investigation.
00:17:40.000 Now, as I've said, I don't blame the prosecutor in this particular case.
00:17:44.000 There are a lot of people who are very angry at Jack Smith, the special counsel for the DOJ in this particular case.
00:17:49.000 But Jack Smith's job, he's the special counsel, is to investigate this particular case and then to look at the fact pattern and decide whether some criminal activity has taken place.
00:17:56.000 It's not his job to decide, based on the politics, whether Trump should be actually indicted.
00:18:00.000 That is the job of Merrick Garland and Joe Biden.
00:18:03.000 So if your job is just to look at the charges and the evidence, and if you read the indictment, the charges and the evidence are pretty strong, and you're Jack Smith, I understand why Jack Smith is bringing the indictment.
00:18:11.000 The real question is why Merrick Garland is signing off on it?
00:18:14.000 Because the real consideration here is a political consideration.
00:18:17.000 Is it a good idea to prosecute the former president of the United States and the current frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination on the basis of mishandling classified information and obstruction of justice when a Democratic chief candidate for president of the United States ran against him in 2016 was exonerated on exactly the same sort of behavior?
00:18:33.000 Is that a smart idea by Merrick Garland?
00:18:35.000 Is that good for the country?
00:18:36.000 That's a political decision.
00:18:38.000 And when you have prosecutorial discretion and it's used frequently, you have to question why that discretion is being used in the way that it's being used.
00:18:45.000 Again, prosecutorial discretion is used in deciding whether or not to prosecute Daniel Penney in a case where there is clear reasonable doubt, obviously.
00:18:52.000 Prosecutorial discretion is being used by Merrick Garland in deciding whether the DOJ ought to go forward with the prosecution of Trump.
00:18:59.000 That's not up to Jack Smith.
00:19:00.000 That's up to Merrick Garland, and it's up to Joe Biden.
00:19:03.000 But here was Merrick Garland asked yesterday about his role in the indictment, and he basically refuses to answer the question.
00:19:09.000 Can you give the American public a very clear sense of what exactly your role was in the indictment process, just so people can understand what that role is?
00:19:17.000 And then secondarily, given the historic and extraordinary nature of the case, explain to people, if you would, why this was the best and most appropriate step that was taken and why there were no other alternatives.
00:19:34.000 I'm trying to remember the first question.
00:19:38.000 Yes, so my role is completely consistent with the regulations that set forth responsibilities to the Attorney General under the Special Counsel regulations.
00:19:47.000 And I followed those regulations.
00:19:50.000 With respect to the second question, this again is asking for particulars, and I'm not going to be able to comment.
00:19:58.000 So he's just going to avoid all that.
00:19:59.000 But again, it's his DOJ.
00:20:01.000 He is the head of the DOJ.
00:20:02.000 He's the Attorney General of the United States.
00:20:04.000 This indictment does not go forward without his sign-off on it.
00:20:07.000 He doesn't have to take the recommendation.
00:20:08.000 It's a political question.
00:20:10.000 They decided they wanted to prosecute Trump.
00:20:11.000 It is that simple, and everybody can see it.
00:20:14.000 In a second, we'll get to the media response to all this again covering for the Democrats, because this is what they do professionally speaking first.
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00:21:25.000 Okay so CNN is doing its best to pretend that Joe Biden is not behind these charges.
00:21:30.000 Again, it is the Biden administration that's pushing forward with this.
00:21:32.000 The special counsel does not have the power to simply prosecute.
00:21:35.000 They have to have the sign off from the DOJ.
00:21:37.000 Here is CNN pretending that is not the case.
00:21:40.000 Trump insinuated that Biden had him arrested, that Biden did it, also that Biden also had illegally obtained and kept troves of documents.
00:21:47.000 Yeah, so the first part, there was no indication, no evidence whatsoever that President Biden is somehow behind these charges.
00:21:53.000 They were brought by a special counsel and approved by a Florida grand jury of ordinary citizens.
00:21:58.000 Then this claim about Biden and the 1850 boxes.
00:22:01.000 Look, Biden is under his own special counsel investigation.
00:22:04.000 Because he did take some number of classified documents from his time prior to being elected president.
00:22:10.000 But these 1850 boxes, Jake, are not 1850 classified boxes.
00:22:16.000 I'm sorry, Daniel Dale reemerging from witness protection.
00:22:20.000 You remember Daniel Dale, right?
00:22:21.000 He's the guy who during the Trump administration would appear every five minutes on CNN for a fact check.
00:22:25.000 And then when Joe Biden was taken out of his coffin, they mothballed Daniel Dale and now he's back to fact check.
00:22:31.000 Here's the reality.
00:22:32.000 Joe Biden's administration is in charge of the DOJ.
00:22:34.000 The DOJ is in charge of the prosecution.
00:22:36.000 It's that simple.
00:22:37.000 They could have killed it.
00:22:37.000 They decided not to kill it.
00:22:39.000 Now, they may have good legal reasons not to kill it, but certainly from a political level, they've now opened a can of worms.
00:22:44.000 Meanwhile, we have some updates on Donald Trump and how this case is going to proceed.
00:22:50.000 Many of the witnesses in this particular case are going to be people who are closely associated with Donald Trump.
00:22:55.000 According to the New York Times, The judge is making clear that Trump should not be talking about the facts in his indictment with any potential witnesses.
00:23:04.000 Because, again, there is the idea that they might be colluding with one another.
00:23:07.000 That's particularly true of his aide, Walt Mauda, who is also under indictment at this point.
00:23:12.000 But many of the people who are giving evidence at this point are going to be closest aides, advisors, lawyers, even members of his secret service detail.
00:23:18.000 Because those are people who presumably may have been implicated in the activity of moving classified documents around Mar-a-Lago.
00:23:24.000 Throughout the document's investigation, according to the New York Times, many employees at Mar-a-Lago were interviewed about Trump by Mr. Smith's team at a time when, like now, they were being represented by lawyers paid by Trump's PAC.
00:23:34.000 Some of the lawyers Trump hired to defend him in this case have also wound up being questioned by the government, and they may also appear as witnesses.
00:23:39.000 Again, that goes to the crime-fraud exception.
00:23:41.000 This is the case with regard to some of his lawyers who basically informed the federal government that Trump had turned over all of the classified documentation.
00:23:49.000 And then it turns out that Trump was actually hiding some of the classified documentation from his own lawyers.
00:23:53.000 So they were lying without knowing they were lying, according to the indictment.
00:23:56.000 That would include, of course, Evan Corcoran and Jennifer Little, both of whom were subpoenaed for testimony and records, nearly all of them possessed by Corcoran and by Mr. Smith's team during the investigation.
00:24:06.000 According to the indictment, Trump had told Corcoran he wanted to be at Mar-a-Lago, and Corcoran did a search, and Little did not have to be there.
00:24:11.000 And then in the time when Corcoran was not there, he moved around some of the documents.
00:24:14.000 So, some of those people presumably will be called to testify.
00:24:17.000 There's an argument that's now being made by Trump's legal team, and by people who are his defenders, that he is safe under the Presidential Records Act, which allows the president to take with him personal records of the presidency.
00:24:28.000 That is not the same thing as agency records, as Andy McCarthy has pointed out.
00:24:31.000 It's a dubious legal argument.
00:24:33.000 The Presidential Records Act not only applies to Contemporaneous records of conversations the president like his diary that he himself was making but also any any material that crossed his desk is now considered presidential records as opposed to the CIA gave him a confidential top-secret report and now he gets to take that home and put it on his wall.
00:24:51.000 Typically speaking that is not covered by the Presidential Records Act as Andy McCarthy has made pretty clear.
00:24:56.000 Others have made this clear as well.
00:24:58.000 With that said, that is a defense that will be presumably tried.
00:25:01.000 Again, all this comes down to on Donald Trump's level, so many things can be true at once here.
00:25:04.000 One of the things that is true is that Donald Trump's behavior here is just irresponsible and reckless.
00:25:08.000 There is no reason to do this.
00:25:09.000 I can't say this too much.
00:25:10.000 When you know your enemies are targeting you, do not put a target on your own back.
00:25:16.000 His enemies are going after him with fire ants and Donald Trump is like smothering himself in honey.
00:25:22.000 I don't understand why you would do that, like he's a rational human being.
00:25:24.000 If Donald Trump actually took his opposition seriously, if he actually believed the left was as much of a threat as he says the left is, and I believe they are, then why would he make himself vulnerable in this way?
00:25:33.000 And we're now finding out that Trump rejected his own lawyer's advice on all of this stuff, which of course is obvious.
00:25:39.000 Apparently, according to the Washington Post, one of Trump's attorneys, Christopher Kyes, wanted to quietly approach the Justice Department to see if he could negotiate a settlement that would preclude charges, hoping Attorney General Merrick Garland and the department would want an exit ramp to avoid prosecuting a former president.
00:25:52.000 Kyes would hopefully take the temperature down, he told others, by promising a professional approach and the return of all the documents.
00:25:57.000 But Trump was not interested after listening to other lawyers who urged a more pugilistic approach, so Kyes never approached prosecutors.
00:26:02.000 Three people briefed on the matter said a special counsel was appointed just months later.
00:26:07.000 That quiet entreaty was just one of the many occasions when lawyers and advisors sought to get Trump to take a more cooperative stance in a bid to avoid what happened on Friday.
00:26:16.000 Apparently, all of his lawyers were saying over and over pretty much, you should just give them back the documents.
00:26:20.000 Why are you not giving back the documents?
00:26:21.000 What are you doing?
00:26:23.000 And he was doing what he always does, which is ignore his lawyers.
00:26:26.000 It was a total unforced error, said one person close to Trump, who's been part of dozens of discussions about the documents.
00:26:30.000 We didn't have to be here.
00:26:32.000 Trump again and again rejected the advice from lawyers and advisors who urged him to cooperate.
00:26:37.000 Why exactly that is the case is beyond me.
00:26:41.000 I don't understand what motivated Trump, why he had such a deep desire to keep the documents that he wished to put himself in this particular situation.
00:26:48.000 And again, this goes forward to electability.
00:26:50.000 Is this a person with the sort of discipline necessary to win an election against a person he already lost an election to?
00:26:55.000 I don't know the answer to that.
00:26:56.000 So it's very difficult to say the answer is yes.
00:27:00.000 It's also difficult to know what's going to happen with Walt Mauda.
00:27:03.000 One of the questions here is whether Walton Aouda may now turn on Trump because Walton Aouda is being charged.
00:27:08.000 This is the big question in the case.
00:27:10.000 Trump has the- essentially, Watanabe was his ballot, he was his valet, he was essentially bringing him Diet Coke in the White House as an aide, and then eventually he ended up working for Trump's Super PAC, and then eventually he ended up working for Trump personally, which is why he was the one who was being texted to move all of these boxes around.
00:27:27.000 But he is facing decades in prison now.
00:27:29.000 He's a 40-year-old, he's facing 20 years in prison if he's convicted of the most serious charge against him.
00:27:35.000 There's certainly the possibility that the prosecution is going to try and get him to flip.
00:27:38.000 So far, there have been no indications that Nauda is going to flip.
00:27:42.000 But apparently, people familiar with the case say that Nauda spoke more than once with federal investigators, and the conversations turned contentious last year when a senior DOJ lawyer suggested the valet was in legal trouble for some of his statements.
00:27:53.000 Apparently, Nauda's lawyers reacted angrily to that suggestion, and the relationship never recovered.
00:27:59.000 The judge has already said that Trump should not be talking to Naoda, but Naoda and Trump took the same plane, apparently, to Bedminster directly after the indictment.
00:28:06.000 So we'll see what happened in relation to all of that.
00:28:09.000 Meanwhile, the GOP continues to futz about for some sort of retaliatory solution here, to put some pressure on Democrats.
00:28:18.000 So if the idea is the Democrats are going to politically prosecute Trump, or they're going to open this door, then there has to be some form of retaliation.
00:28:24.000 Well, yesterday, the House GOP Put forward a bizarre measure to censure and then fine Adam Schiff.
00:28:30.000 Now, there are two measures here that ought to be considered.
00:28:32.000 One is censure.
00:28:33.000 Censure is a congressional method where the Congress gets to make up its own rules.
00:28:37.000 It basically is a statement of, this guy is terrible.
00:28:40.000 Congressional censure has happened a few times in the past.
00:28:43.000 The particulars of this case, it's happened Approximately, it's only expelled, only five members in the history of the United States Congress have actually been expelled.
00:28:54.000 But censure is significantly more popular.
00:28:56.000 Back in 2021, Paul Gosar was censured by the Democratic Congress.
00:29:00.000 In 2010, Charlie Rangel was censured by Congress.
00:29:04.000 Then you have to go back to 1983.
00:29:06.000 So there was talk about censuring Adam Schiff because he spent years on end lying.
00:29:12.000 Lying routinely about the Trump-Russia investigation, suggesting that there was information right around the corner that he was privy to, that Trump was guilty of collusion with Russia.
00:29:20.000 Again, one of the reasons why there's so much goodwill toward Trump in this particular case is because the Democrats have been crying wolf about Trump literally since the day he came down the golden escalator.
00:29:30.000 Well, now the House attempted to vote to censure Schiff, but they also attempted to add on top of that a $16 million fine.
00:29:39.000 Well, I gotta say, is that good strategy?
00:29:42.000 I mean, this is a serious question.
00:29:43.000 There are 20 Republicans who voted against that, so the censure motion ended up getting tabled.
00:29:47.000 The reason that 20 Republicans voted against that, some of them presumably didn't want to vote to censure Schiff because they're weaklings.
00:29:53.000 I mean, that's certainly possible.
00:29:54.000 Some of them, like Thomas Massey.
00:29:55.000 Thomas Massey of Kentucky is definitely not a weakling.
00:29:59.000 Okay, Thomas Massey is a very strong libertarian member of Congress.
00:30:03.000 He does not like Adam Schiff.
00:30:05.000 He's been very warm toward Donald Trump on a wide variety of issues.
00:30:08.000 What he says, and I find this somewhat compelling, is, do you want to set the precedent that Congress can fine people $16 million?
00:30:14.000 Is that a good idea?
00:30:15.000 Because again, if the idea here is that turnabout is fair play, whatever you do now is going to be used by Democrats against you five minutes from now.
00:30:22.000 So people who are saying that this is just weak Republicanism, that the Republicans couldn't get it together to censorship, they'll still censorship.
00:30:28.000 That's going to come up again next week.
00:30:30.000 The original attempt here was to pry $16 million from Adam Schiff to pay for all the bills of the Mueller report.
00:30:38.000 But again, the precedent being set, which is that if you don't like what a member does and you censure them, then you get to take, you know, tens of millions of dollars out of their pocket.
00:30:45.000 I could see that being used in pretty bad ways against people like Marjorie Taylor Greene or Lauren Boebert or literally anyone else the Democrats decide ought to be on the chopping block today.
00:30:54.000 According to the Washington Post, The Republican-led House voted to table that measure.
00:30:59.000 20 Republicans voted with Democrats to table the measure, effectively killing it 225 to 196.
00:31:04.000 The resolution sought to fine-shift the former House Intelligence Committee chairman $16 million.
00:31:07.000 And again, one of the things that Massey, who's very constitutionally minded, said is, that's not constitutional.
00:31:12.000 You can't just fine members tens of millions of dollars.
00:31:15.000 Because again, that just means a majority in the Congress is going to be fining the minority.
00:31:19.000 You can take that to its logical extreme.
00:31:21.000 Anytime the Democrats hold Congress, they can just fine every Republican member of Congress by a majority vote their entire net wealth.
00:31:27.000 How's that going to work exactly?
00:31:30.000 The resolution correctly alleged that Schiff purportedly deceived, purposely deceived his committee, Congress, and the American people, and used his position and access to sensitive information to investigate a fraudulently based investigation.
00:31:40.000 It also said Schiff behaved dishonestly and dishonorably on many other occasions.
00:31:45.000 And again, all of that happens to be true.
00:31:49.000 Shift said it showed courage for the Republican colleagues to vote against the thing, but that's really not what was happening here.
00:31:54.000 Again, there were some moderates in swing districts who voted against it, but there were also a bunch of right-wing members, including Representative Thomas Massey.
00:32:01.000 Massey said, Shift acted unethically, but if a resolution to fine him $16 million comes to the floor, I will vote to table it.
00:32:08.000 He currently has a pending lawsuit against former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi for a salary reduction resulting from a fine for refusing to wear masks during the pandemic.
00:32:15.000 Remember Pelosi tried to fine members of Congress for not wearing masks.
00:32:19.000 So does she have the power to do that?
00:32:20.000 The answer should be no.
00:32:22.000 Should members of Congress be voting to take money away from each other?
00:32:25.000 That seems like a very, very bad precedent.
00:32:26.000 Again, this should be the way that everybody thinks about politics these days.
00:32:30.000 Anything that you do to the other side will be done against you within the next five minutes.
00:32:33.000 So unless you have some sort of bright line rule that you can apply that makes it okay, just recognize whatever sword you establish here will be used because it will cut both ways.
00:32:42.000 Okay, meanwhile, over in California, the insanity continues.
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00:34:44.000 Okay, meanwhile, remember that time that Democrats pretended that they didn't want to take your gas stove?
00:34:48.000 Uh, they did.
00:34:49.000 They did.
00:34:50.000 member the energy secretary jennifer granholm testifying that they didn't want
00:34:53.000 to take your gas stove uh...
00:35:11.000 it's This is why I'm so excited to be here. I'm going to be
00:35:21.000 interviewing a couple of people. I'm going to be interviewing some of the specialists that are going to be
00:35:25.000 speaking. And I'm going to be interviewing some of the people that are going to be speaking. Thanks for coming.
00:35:28.000 They don't want to take your gas, Dov.
00:35:31.000 They would never want.
00:35:32.000 Yesterday, 181 Democrats voted to ban gas stoves.
00:35:35.000 So just going to point that out.
00:35:37.000 So that's good news.
00:35:39.000 Glad they're doing that.
00:35:40.000 According to FoxNews.com, the House on Wednesday passed legislation to block the Department of Energy from implementing tough new energy conservation rules on gas stoves, an effort that was supported by more than two dozen Democrats.
00:35:50.000 Lawmakers passed the Save Our Gas Stoves Act in a 249 to 181 vote, which means 181 Democrats voted in favor of letting the Department of Energy ban gas stoves.
00:36:00.000 This is always the rule.
00:36:02.000 We're not doing it, and it's good that we are.
00:36:03.000 That is the way all of this stuff works.
00:36:06.000 Meanwhile, Joe Biden's Catholic Church is holding a special mass.
00:36:09.000 Are you excited?
00:36:09.000 Are you really excited?
00:36:11.000 Well, apparently, Wednesday evening, they celebrated a special mass over at this Catholic Church, this very Catholic Church.
00:36:16.000 Now, there are a bunch of Catholics who work for this program, and so it's time to survey the Catholic room.
00:36:21.000 Guys, have you ever heard of a pride mass?
00:36:23.000 A gay pride mass?
00:36:25.000 Savvy, is this a thing that you do at your local church, a gay pride mass?
00:36:28.000 Nope, I didn't think that this was part of the normal rosary.
00:36:32.000 I wasn't aware.
00:36:33.000 Is there a sloth mass or a wrath mass also?
00:36:38.000 Also no, Savvy says.
00:36:39.000 I assume that the adultery mass is rather lit.
00:36:42.000 Um, but I'm confused because I thought that the Catholic Church was a hierarchically structured church in which the Pope had the final say, and so I'm very confused that the localities are somehow allowed to somehow greenlight full-scale violations of both the Old and New Testaments.
00:36:55.000 That's exciting stuff to learn.
00:36:56.000 The pastor of Holy Trinity Catholic Church in Georgetown, which counts Biden among its congregants, defended the decision to have the Mass, saying it was not celebrating pride in terms of vanity.
00:37:04.000 Oh!
00:37:05.000 Oh!
00:37:05.000 Not in terms of vanity, just in terms of, you know, lust.
00:37:10.000 Okay.
00:37:11.000 This celebration is an expression of our parish's mission statement to accompany one another in Christ, celebrate God's love and transform lives said the Reverend Kevin Gillespie.
00:37:19.000 Our celebration of pride is not celebrating personal vanity, but the human dignity of a group of people who have been too long the objects of violence, bullying, and harassment.
00:37:26.000 Our parish reaches out to LGBTQIA plus people as it reaches out to Catholics in all of our areas.
00:37:30.000 Well, I assume that they are going to teach all of these people that they had best give up their particular sexual lifestyles and identities in favor of, you know, the biblically prescribed ones.
00:37:40.000 I assume that'll be part of the deal, right?
00:37:41.000 I mean, because it's not pride in the actual act.
00:37:43.000 It's not pride in the actual identification as anything other than a Christian.
00:37:49.000 I have to say, more respect to the Southern Baptist today.
00:37:51.000 The Southern Baptist actually decided to essentially dissociate from churches that have appointed female reverends, because they say that that violates our scruples.
00:38:01.000 When is the Catholic Church going to do the same?
00:38:03.000 I'm wondering, when are archbishops going to suddenly decide that it's time to stop giving communion to people like Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden, or to excommunicate churches that participate in pride masses?
00:38:14.000 Aren't there any limits at all?
00:38:15.000 I'm just, I'm confused.
00:38:17.000 Again, Savvy, film me if I'm doing this wrong, because I'm not the Catholic expert, but it feels like at some point the Vatican should do something about this, no?
00:38:25.000 At least speak out would be a big one.
00:38:27.000 Yeah, that makes sense, but I guess they're not going to.
00:38:29.000 You know who is speaking out, though?
00:38:31.000 The Muslims.
00:38:32.000 So, in my favorite intersectional battle of the day, A Michigan city, which is all Muslim, it's an all Muslim
00:38:39.000 city council in Hamtrak, Michigan, they voted unanimously on Tuesday to approve a resolution
00:38:43.000 banning the LGBTQ pride flag from being flown on the city's public property. Here's what
00:38:47.000 the city council meeting looked like.
00:38:48.000 Our soldiers fought, bled and died in the jungles of Iwo Jima and the beaches of Omaha
00:38:56.000 so that you and I can live with peace, prosperity and freedom.
00:39:01.000 Those soldiers fall under the American flag and no other.
00:39:06.000 It's shameful and embarrassing to have any other flag in public buildings.
00:39:10.000 You have the freedom to display whatever you wish in your home or your private businesses.
00:39:16.000 We respect all nations, cultures, and their flags, but we only salute the American flag.
00:39:25.000 Do not waver and do not flinch.
00:39:27.000 You are doing the right thing.
00:39:29.000 God bless you, and God bless the United States of America.
00:39:35.000 Well, good for that guy.
00:39:36.000 I'm all in on that.
00:39:37.000 That sounds correct.
00:39:40.000 It'll be fun to watch the Democrats struggle with intersectional populations in conflict.
00:39:46.000 So, good for Muslims for standing up for, you know, basic Americanism there.
00:39:50.000 Like the American flag should be the only one that flies above public buildings.
00:39:52.000 I thought that that should have been, you know, wrote by this point, but apparently not.
00:39:55.000 But it's gonna be fun to watch Democrats struggle with Muslims are the new homophobes.
00:40:00.000 That's gonna be fun to watch.
00:40:01.000 Okay, time for some things I like and then some things that I hate.
00:40:04.000 So, things that I like today.
00:40:07.000 There are a couple of things to like.
00:40:08.000 One, Starbucks has now had to pay a manager almost $26 million.
00:40:13.000 Why?
00:40:13.000 Well, you remember during the Black Lives Matter kerfuffle back in 2020 when every major corporation was pretending that America was systemically racist against black people and therefore they had to pay obeisance to people who were acting badly in their stores.
00:40:27.000 So Starbucks had a situation in which there were two black men at a Philadelphia cafe who were not buying anything and then asked to use the restroom.
00:40:35.000 And a white lady, who is a manager, basically called the police when they refused to leave.
00:40:42.000 And Starbucks chided this person.
00:40:44.000 They made her a national scandal.
00:40:47.000 Well, now the lady, whose name apparently is Shannon Phillips, she sued Starbucks for discrimination.
00:40:53.000 And she won a $25.6 million verdict.
00:40:57.000 A New Jersey federal jury decided in favor of Shannon Phillips.
00:40:59.000 She sued Starbucks in 2019 over allegations of racial bias and discrimination.
00:41:04.000 It took the eight-member panel nearly five hours to award $25 million in punitive damages and $600,000 in compensatory damages to Phillips, determining her skin color played a decisive role in her termination.
00:41:14.000 Phillips worked for Starbucks for 13 years.
00:41:16.000 She oversaw roughly 100 cafes.
00:41:17.000 She was fired less than a month after Dante Robinson and Rachelle Nelson were arrested at a Spruce Street store on April 12, 2018, for refusing to leave a table.
00:41:25.000 The incident was captured on a cell phone video, quickly went viral, and Starbucks faced intense scrutiny for the treatment of the black men who said they were waiting for a business associate and hadn't ordered anything when a manager called the Philly police on them.
00:41:34.000 Phillips was not present at the time.
00:41:36.000 To quell the firestorm, you'll recall, Starbucks, being an idiotic chain, apologized and closed 8,000 stores for racial bias training.
00:41:42.000 Remember this insanity in 2020?
00:41:43.000 It was totally crazy.
00:41:45.000 Well then, Starbucks looked for a sacrificial lamb.
00:41:48.000 So, they decided to fire this lady.
00:41:52.000 Apparently, the district manager Paul Sykes is black and reported to Phillips.
00:41:56.000 He said she was beloved by her colleagues and her termination, which came out of the blue, was likely due to the color of her skin.
00:42:00.000 This is all about appearances, the optics of what they did.
00:42:02.000 Matti Aci said, if Shannon Phillips is black, does it play out like this?
00:42:05.000 This case is about Starbucks and self-preservation.
00:42:07.000 So good for good for the jury.
00:42:12.000 So it turns out that the lady who is presiding over, you know,
00:42:17.000 Starbucks is handling at this point in this region was fired
00:42:19.000 basically because they were looking for a scalp in a stupid case.
00:42:23.000 There's a reason, by the way, there's new polling out this morning with regard to the Black Lives Matter movement, and it turns out that the American support for Black Lives Matter has now fallen to its lowest point since George Floyd's death.
00:42:36.000 Which, it's amazing again that our country is so stupid that it decided to embrace full-scale a scam movement based on a lie for years on end, but I'm glad to see that people seem to be awakening from that nightmare.
00:42:47.000 Meanwhile, the Major League Baseball apparatus is quietly telling teams they can stop forcing players to wear uniforms and hats adorned with Pride garbage.
00:42:56.000 The decision comes as LA Dodgers are taking major heat for inviting the radical anti-Catholic hate group the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence to their Gay Pride Night game on June 16th.
00:43:05.000 The Tampa Bay Rays were the first MLB team to announce that players would not wear any rainbow-colored patches or jerseys during the June Pride game this year.
00:43:12.000 The league kept this change to its Pride celebrations very quiet.
00:43:15.000 They basically just gave a dispensation to teams that they didn't have to force it down on their players.
00:43:19.000 The reason that happened is because players said no.
00:43:22.000 Good for the players.
00:43:23.000 Again, resistance actually breeds victory, and this is one case where that is perfectly obviously true.
00:43:28.000 Okay, time for a quick thing that I hate.
00:43:35.000 Okay, so I guess we have to have a story now about Kim Kardashian and her biggest turn-on.
00:43:39.000 Yeah, page six is doing this.
00:43:41.000 The reality star broke down her man list of dream qualities in a partner during a Thursday episode of The Kardashians.
00:43:49.000 And here is what she said.
00:43:52.000 Good teeth.
00:43:53.000 Teeth are like one of my biggest turn-ons.
00:43:56.000 The straighter, the hornier I'll get.
00:43:59.000 Just kidding.
00:44:01.000 But not kidding.
00:44:03.000 So apparently, straight teeth, she says, make her horny.
00:44:07.000 This is her thing.
00:44:09.000 Other qualities that she seeks in a man.
00:44:12.000 A calm man.
00:44:13.000 And we're going to go through her dating history momentarily, guys.
00:44:17.000 Just a warning.
00:44:18.000 With good hygiene.
00:44:20.000 No mom or dad issues.
00:44:21.000 Who will protect and fight for her.
00:44:24.000 No heavy baggage, she says.
00:44:26.000 I have enough.
00:44:29.000 No heavy baggage.
00:44:30.000 Yeah, that's her dating history, is men without baggage.
00:44:32.000 Mm-hmm.
00:44:33.000 Taller than me.
00:44:34.000 Someone that loves to work out.
00:44:35.000 A motivated person.
00:44:35.000 An independent person that's not clingy.
00:44:37.000 And someone with good taste.
00:44:39.000 I think the first mark of bad taste is that you're dating Kim Kardashian.
00:44:43.000 She also said, no balding.
00:44:45.000 But then, I don't know.
00:44:46.000 If I'm in love, I'll rub your bald head, you know what I mean?
00:44:47.000 But we're just talking about our perfection list.
00:44:52.000 She has been married three times.
00:44:56.000 I'm wondering why, you know, what the guy's teeth look like are the real deciding factor for her considering in publicly available materials of her, like, what makes her horny.
00:45:07.000 We have some publicly available evidence of this and apparently, you know, facial recognition is not an element of that.
00:45:16.000 I'm going to put that as subtly as I possibly can for the minors in the audience.
00:45:22.000 In any case, I think that means that if teeth are her big turn-on, it's time.
00:45:26.000 It's time for us to take a walk down memory lane with Kim Kardashian's ex-boyfriends and husbands, and we'll determine, based on teeth structure, whether these are good partners.
00:45:37.000 So, this is a person named Damian Thomas, who is a Grammy-nominated music producer.
00:45:43.000 She was 19 when this happened.
00:45:45.000 He claims the Kardashian cheated on him and that he initiated the separation and divorce.
00:45:49.000 I find it hard to believe that Kim Kardashian would be sexually profligate.
00:45:52.000 How dare you, sir?
00:45:53.000 How dare you?
00:45:54.000 So, how are his teeth?
00:45:55.000 They are okay.
00:45:57.000 He has okay teeth.
00:45:58.000 Okay, next.
00:45:59.000 Ray J, who she had some experiences with on tape.
00:46:03.000 He does indeed have teeth.
00:46:06.000 Yes, those are teeth.
00:46:06.000 Okay, so on a scale of one to ten, I'm gonna have, again, our producers right in the producer's room.
00:46:12.000 So, Damon Thomas, scale of one to ten for teeth on Damon Thomas, guys.
00:46:16.000 Taking consensus in the room?
00:46:18.000 Six and a half, seven-ish?
00:46:20.000 Six and a half to seven is the consensus in the room on Damon Thomas' teeth.
00:46:23.000 Okay, so it didn't last because of the teeth.
00:46:25.000 Obviously, that was the deciding factor.
00:46:26.000 Okay, we have Ray J. How are his teeth doing?
00:46:29.000 Those are nice.
00:46:30.000 I like those.
00:46:31.000 Not too bad.
00:46:32.000 Not bad teeth, according to Savvy.
00:46:33.000 So we're gonna give the, what, like an 8?
00:46:34.000 8 in terms of teeth?
00:46:36.000 Okay, let's give that guy an 8.
00:46:37.000 Alright, Nick Lachey.
00:46:40.000 The rare white guy dating Kim Kardashian.
00:46:43.000 Veneers.
00:46:44.000 Those are veneers.
00:46:45.000 Yeah, those look like veneers for sure.
00:46:47.000 So that dings him.
00:46:48.000 Look like veneers according to Savvy, so he is downgraded.
00:46:52.000 A point.
00:46:53.000 Also, Nick Lachey, I mean, I have to say, that is a dating history for Nick Lachey, right?
00:46:56.000 He goes right from his divorce with Jessica Simpson to dating Kim Kardashian.
00:47:01.000 And next, we get Nick Cannon, and we got some teeth problems here with Nick Cannon.
00:47:05.000 Not great.
00:47:09.000 So, yeah, he's got some British teeth going on over here.
00:47:14.000 Cheers.
00:47:14.000 Uh, yeah, there is some, there is some, there is some, you know, food material in the teeth over there.
00:47:20.000 Yeah, that's, that not, not ideal.
00:47:23.000 That is, that is Nick Cannon.
00:47:24.000 That's, those are not the, the dentist is not proud.
00:47:27.000 He is not brushed every day.
00:47:28.000 A tooth per kid.
00:47:29.000 He's not flossed.
00:47:30.000 By the way, Nick Cannon's dating history is, that's a saga of its own.
00:47:34.000 Yeah.
00:47:35.000 Right.
00:47:35.000 Next, we have Reggie Bush.
00:47:38.000 This presumably is like right after he won the Heisman, but before it was revoked or something.
00:47:42.000 Anyway, Reggie Bush does have, he does have teeth.
00:47:46.000 They are in his face.
00:47:46.000 I think it's a seven.
00:47:47.000 I don't think they're the straightest teeth.
00:47:48.000 Around a seven.
00:47:49.000 So that's, that's like a seven.
00:47:51.000 We're being told by Savvy.
00:47:53.000 Okay, Miles Austin, who is again, football pro Miles Austin.
00:47:57.000 And this dating history is longer than the Boston phone book here.
00:48:01.000 Miles Austin.
00:48:02.000 And it got lost because it didn't last very long.
00:48:06.000 Apparently they broke up because they were long distance.
00:48:08.000 She needs people in the immediate camera vicinity.
00:48:11.000 There he is.
00:48:11.000 That's a good one.
00:48:12.000 Then you have Chris Humphreys.
00:48:14.000 So he was on Keeping Up with the Kardashians and they had a huge fairytale wedding and the fairytale ended with disaster as per her usual arrangement.
00:48:21.000 That's a decent smile.
00:48:22.000 But good teeth, right?
00:48:23.000 Those feel like good teeth.
00:48:24.000 Good teeth.
00:48:25.000 For Chris Humphreys?
00:48:25.000 Yeah, nine.
00:48:26.000 Nine.
00:48:27.000 That's like a nine.
00:48:27.000 That's like a good orthodontic.
00:48:29.000 work over there, whoever Zorthinanas was, gets credit for the braces.
00:48:32.000 She married him.
00:48:33.000 She did marry him.
00:48:34.000 So, so far the ones that she has married were guy number one, and then she married this
00:48:38.000 guy, right, Chris Humphries, who had good teeth.
00:48:41.000 And then, um, they, uh, and then they, she got married to Kanye West, which ended beautifully,
00:48:46.000 of course.
00:48:47.000 Um, and, uh, Kanye West?
00:48:50.000 Well, yeah, this is definitely the teeth with the grill.
00:48:51.000 This is where he had, like, the diamond grill on him.
00:48:54.000 So, I don't know if she likes the shiny teeth or what.
00:48:56.000 Not sure what the story is there.
00:48:56.000 And then, finally, Pete Davidson.
00:48:59.000 Who, to be fair, Pete Davidson has dated at least 72% of the female population of the United States.
00:49:05.000 And he had some tooth work done.
00:49:07.000 And so, she dated him post-tooth work.
00:49:09.000 So, apparently, like, if teeth are her thing, then the average human I don't know if they had their wisdom teeth removed, but most adults have like 32 teeth.
00:49:21.000 And I believe the number of men that we just went through was, if I count correctly, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.
00:49:28.000 Go Kim!
00:49:29.000 So that means that she had a fulsome view of at least 288 teeth.
00:49:35.000 So that is exciting stuff for Kim Kardashian.
00:49:38.000 I know.
00:49:38.000 I had to do it, guys.
00:49:40.000 You hated it too.
00:49:40.000 We all hated it together.
00:49:43.000 I liked it.
00:49:44.000 But them's the rules.
00:49:46.000 I wasn't the one who brought it up.
00:49:48.000 Kim Kardashian did.