Sen. Bernie Sanders takes the upper hand in the Democratic primary race, the Senate impeachment trial kicks into high gear, and Kobe Bryant and his daughter tragically die in a helicopter accident. Ben Shapiro talks about it all on this episode of The Ben Shapiro Show on CBS Radio's "The FiveThirtyEight" and other media outlets, including CNN, ESPN, CBS, NBC and ABC, and the New York Times, USA Today, CNN, CBS and other major news outlets, as well as CNN and other news outlets across the country, as the investigation into John Bolton's alleged involvement in the Iran Contra scandal continues to press forward. Ben also talks about Bernie Sanders' rise in polls going into the Iowa Caucuses, and why Donald Trump should not care if Bernie Sanders wins the primary, as long as he s the Democratic nominee, because Bernie Sanders is a communist. Ben also explains why the Bernie Sanders wing of the Democratic Party could take control of the entire Democratic Party, and how that s a good thing for Donald Trump, because if he wins the nomination, the election will become a referendum on Bernie Sanders, it won t be about Trump anymore, it s going to be a referendum about Trump, and it will be about who s better than who Trump is running for president. And, of course, there s a special guest on the show today: Kobe Bryant! and John Bolton! Subscribe to the show to learn more about the tragic death of the greatest basketball player of all time, Kobe Bryant, and what he meant to the city of LA and the legacy he left behind him in the process of becoming a better version of himself. . . . and much more. Subscribe today using our sponsor ExpressVPN! Learn more about your ad choices and become a supporter of the show by becoming a patron of the Ben Shapiro Podcast! and other VIP memberships! Links mentioned in the show: Subscribe on Apple Podcasts and other links mentioned in this episode: Join us on our new podcast: bit.ly/Ben Shapiro Podcasts Thanks for listening? Rate, review and review our podcasting great reviews? and subscribe to our social media platforms! Music by Thank you for listening to our podcast? Subscribe & review our show? . Leave us on Apple Music? & other links to our new episodes on your thoughts and reviews on your favorite podcasting platform? , and our podcast on social media?
00:00:00.000Bernie Sanders takes the upper hand in the Democratic 2020 contest, the Senate impeachment trial kicks into high gear with John Bolton's revelations, and Kobe Bryant and his daughter tragically die in a helicopter accident.
00:00:46.000We'll talk about what he meant to the city of Los Angeles, to basketball in general.
00:00:50.000Really bad stuff happening over the weekend.
00:00:52.000We begin, however, with the update on your polls going into Iowa.
00:00:56.000So we are now, what, 10 days out of Iowa?
00:00:58.000We are very, very close to the Iowa caucuses, and right now, It appears that Bernie Sanders has grabbed the upper hand in those Iowa caucuses.
00:01:06.000The current polling has Bernie up a substantial percentage in Iowa.
00:01:36.000He has tremendous momentum in New Hampshire, where the latest polls have him up double digits in New Hampshire.
00:01:40.000In Nevada, the latest poll actually has Joe Biden up by like one point, which means that right now, the betting markets have Bernie Sanders as the favorites to win the Democratic nomination, which is almost unthinkable.
00:01:51.000I mean, the fact that you have a man Who is a communist for nearly his entire, not nearly, his entire career.
00:01:57.000You have a guy who is now pretending to be a democratic socialist who likes Norway, but he started off loving Venezuela and Cuba and the USSR and even now can't really get himself up for condemning communism anywhere on planet Earth.
00:02:09.000Bernie Sanders could be the Democratic nominee and in fact has a solid shot at being the Democratic nominee.
00:02:16.000Again, Bernie has spiked dramatically in Iowa.
00:02:19.000And it's important to remember who Bernie Sanders is and how a wing of the Democratic Party could theoretically take control of the entire Democratic Party.
00:02:25.000I've said for a long time, the best thing for Donald Trump here is for Bernie Sanders to win the nomination because Bernie Sanders, the election will become a referendum on Bernie Sanders.
00:02:35.000If Sanders is the nominee, it won't be a referendum on Trump anymore.
00:02:49.000He's made us safer on the world stage.
00:02:51.000Bernie Sanders is an out-and-out communist who roots for the worst people on planet Earth to win all over the world, wants to destroy the American economy, has never met a government program he doesn't think should be expanded, and has never met a private industry he doesn't think should be nationalized.
00:03:03.000It is going to be so easy for Donald Trump to turn the election into a referendum on Sanders.
00:03:07.000The best thing for Trump is for Sanders to win.
00:03:09.000The worst thing for the United States is for Bernie Sanders to win the nomination.
00:03:13.000The reason being, one, that then he will have, minimum, a 40% shot at being president, an actual Honestly, got a communist as president of the United States, a lifelong socialist as president of the United States.
00:03:25.000And also, even if the Democratic Party doesn't love everything that Bernie is saying, they are now going to centralize around his point of view in the same way that in 1972, George McGovern ran for the Democrats and dragged that party dramatically to the left.
00:03:37.000And eventually, that resulted in the complete takeover of the Democratic Party by the hard left.
00:03:41.000Bernie Sanders could do the same thing, turning what was a not supremely anti-capitalist party into a supremely anti-capitalist party, turning the party of Barack Obama into the party of AOC, which seems like a distinction without a difference, but it is a distinction with a difference.
00:03:57.000And the fact is that Barack Obama was not in his guts A complete opponent of capitalism.
00:04:02.000He didn't like it very much, but he wasn't like Bernie, a complete hater of capitalism.
00:04:05.000Obama understands that capitalism actually generates prosperity, whereas Bernie Sanders believes that capitalism is ruinous no matter where it's tried.
00:04:12.000You can tell where Bernie Sanders is on all of these issues simply by listening to Bernie Sanders and listening to his surrogates.
00:04:18.000So Bernie Sanders over the weekend has been asked the unfortunate question of how he plans to pay for all of the things that he wants to pay for.
00:04:24.000And the man simply doesn't have any answers along these lines.
00:04:26.000He was on CBS Evening News with Norah O'Donnell, and he was asked how he was going to sell his healthcare plan.
00:04:31.000And he basically just said, the rainbows will pay for it.
00:05:19.000Free everything, paid for presumably by the rich.
00:05:22.000But the rich don't have the kind of money to pay for $60 trillion worth of spending on what he is talking about.
00:05:27.000And you can tell What is really animating the Sanders campaign has nothing to do with his plans, has nothing to do with his spending, has nothing to do with where he wants the country to go.
00:05:34.000What really is animating Bernie Sanders' campaign is hatred for all that is.
00:05:38.000It's hatred for the quote-unquote status quo.
00:05:42.000So Michael Moore is a big Bernie Sanders fan.
00:05:44.000And he's out there saying that we are like the French Resistance.
00:05:47.000See, it's not what Bernie is for that matters, it's what Bernie is against.
00:05:49.000Bernie is against capitalism, Bernie is against the American system, Bernie is against American history, Bernie is for a complete overthrow of the American system wholesale, and Michael Moore is totally into it.
00:05:59.000Here is Michael Moore characterizing Bernie Sanders' opposition as basically Nazi-esque and suggesting that Bernie Sanders is the French resistance, which is an amazing statement given the fact that Bernie Sanders During World War II, if he had been a politically active man at that time, he would have been on the side of the USSR, which at the beginning was at least on the side of the Nazis.
00:06:17.000In any case, that's not to say Bernie Sanders is a Nazi.
00:06:20.000The point is that to characterize Bernie Sanders' opposition as Nazi-esque and Bernie as a French Resistance member is ridiculous on his face.
00:06:27.000Here is Michael Moore explaining that he is like the French Resistance.
00:06:32.000You know we're in the French Resistance now, right?
00:06:40.000Remember the French Resistance, right?
00:06:42.000Nobody in the French Resistance ever said, Jesus, yes, I'd like to help you stop those Nazis coming down the road there, but we've got couples therapy at four today.
00:06:59.000Get along for the greater good of this country!
00:07:02.000So get out there, because it's like the French Resistance, guys, and if you don't make Bernie Sanders the nominee coming out of Iowa, it's because you were just a bad person who didn't care about the Nazis.
00:07:25.000It's an amazing thing for Michael Moore to suggest that he is tired of hearing we're the land of the free while he stands there railing against the land of the free, which is something that typically does not happen in dictatorships.
00:07:33.000More Michael Moore on the campaign trail standing behind a podium labeled with Bernie Sanders insignia.
00:08:06.000No, we need to make so many changes because it's not just enough for it to be a political democracy.
00:08:12.000When we get that part of it fixed, the Electoral College gone.
00:08:16.000The Electoral College makes us not a democracy, apparently, according to Bernie Sanders.
00:08:20.000By the way, he should learn some things about other countries, where very few Prime Ministers of other countries actually win a majority of the actual vote.
00:08:26.000Most of them, many Prime Ministers, Prime Ministers as in, I believe Boris Johnson, in the latest round of elections, I think his party won something like 43% of the total vote.
00:08:36.000In Israel, the Prime Minister typically wins something on the order of maybe 20%, 25% of the total vote for his party.
00:08:43.000So, the idea that it's done specifically along popular vote lines, and the person who wins the absolute majority always wins, like, I don't know what he's talking about, but he doesn't know what he's talking about either.
00:08:52.000The difference is that he's saying it and I'm critiquing it, so that doesn't make a lot of sense from his perspective.
00:08:55.000The reason I'm playing you, Michael Moore, is because Michael Moore says the quiet part out loud, but Bernie Sanders also says the quiet part out loud.
00:10:21.000Okay, it's not just Michael Moore on the stump for Bernie Sanders, it is also AOC on the stump for Bernie Sanders.
00:10:27.000So AOC, another popular communist who is out there suggesting that there's a big problem in New York City because there are homeless people in New York City and unsold luxury apartments.
00:10:37.000So I guess her proposal is that we should take the luxury apartments and give them to the homeless people, which will obviously create great incentive for developers to create new buildings.
00:10:46.000That will then be seized from them by the government and given to homeless people.
00:10:49.000Clearly, if you want to clear up a shortage of supply, the best thing you can do is forcibly grab the apartments that have been built and then pass them out for free to people who are going to piss on the walls.
00:10:59.000Clearly, that is going to be the best possible solution.
00:11:01.000Here is AOC trying to explain that America is evil because there are luxury apartments in her city of New York City and there are homeless people on the streets of New York City.
00:11:09.000And because she's because she's a fool.
00:11:12.000She believes that the way to solve this problem is by taking the apartments that are unoccupied and giving them to the homeless people, as opposed to, you know, creating an economic structure that incentivizes the creation of new development units so that there's a place for the homeless people to go, also ignoring the fact that many homeless people, probably the plurality or majority of homeless people, Are drug addicts, alcoholics or mentally ill?
00:13:46.000It's almost as though there is a pattern of bad economic policy leading to homelessness.
00:13:50.000My favorite is where she says, look at all these unoccupied luxury apartments.
00:13:53.000Well, clearly, that's because they're somehow disempowering the homeless.
00:13:58.000Maybe the luxury apartments are not occupied because everyone who could possibly provide a tax base is leaving New York City, you idiot.
00:14:05.000Maybe the reason that people aren't getting a luxury apartment in New York City is because of the exorbitant tax rates that AOC wants to force down and the insane business regulations she would prefer that drove literally thousands of jobs out of her district.
00:14:35.000The reason I say that is let's say that Joe Biden wins the nomination, and then let's say that Joe Biden loses the election to Donald Trump.
00:14:41.000The first move will be, you didn't get the passionate people out there, you didn't get the bass out, we didn't provide our strongest horse, instead we just went with the moderate, again, and so what we really need is we need to swing over to the Bernie side.
00:14:51.000And then let's say that Bernie wins the nomination, and he doesn't win the presidency, which is quite likely if he does win the nomination, then it will be, ah yes, but that's just the boomers, it's just the old people.
00:15:02.000Because as the young people age and as they maintain their political point of view, the future is AOC.
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00:16:38.000So again, this is the Bernie Sanders campaign with surrogates like AOC and Rashida Tlaib.
00:16:42.000Over the weekend, Rashida Tlaib pushed an actual blood libel.
00:16:46.000Hanan Ashrawi is a spokesperson for the Palestine Liberation Organization, which is a terrorist organization.
00:16:51.000And Hanan Ashrawi tweeted out a story.
00:16:55.000Supposedly about a Palestinian child who was allegedly kidnapped by, quote, a herd of violent Israeli settlers, assaulted and thrown in a water well, and then drowned in the water well.
00:17:05.000Okay, that is not a thing that happened.
00:17:07.000What actually happened is that there was a reservoir in Jerusalem, it rained really heavily, and unfortunately the seven-year-old slipped and fell in the reservoir and drowned.
00:17:15.000Okay, Hanan Ashrawi tweeted out, The heart just shatters.
00:18:34.000Meanwhile, you'll hear that Donald Trump is an anti-Semite, even as we'll see, as he proposes a peace plan that is the first real peace plan for the region in quite a long time.
00:18:43.000And even though he's been an extraordinarily pro-Israel and pro-Jewish president.
00:18:48.000It's the party of Rashida Tlaib, the party of AOC, the party of Michael Moore.
00:18:53.000This is the Democratic Party of Bernie Sanders, and Bernie Sanders right now, again, is the odds-on favorite to become the Democratic nominee, according to the betting odds.
00:18:59.000The betting odds have him currently at 38%.
00:19:04.000Joe Biden did not do any on-the-ground organizing until the last three months in Iowa.
00:19:08.000Joe Biden has basically staked his claim to the presidency on being able to win South Carolina and Nevada.
00:19:13.000If he loses the first three, if he loses Nevada, he's in serious, serious trouble.
00:19:17.000Because Bernie is almost assuredly going to win New Hampshire.
00:19:20.000If Bernie wins Iowa, he will win New Hampshire.
00:19:22.000If he wins Iowa and New Hampshire, there's an excellent shot that he goes on to win Nevada, at which point it's very difficult to stop the Bernie train.
00:19:29.000So everybody better hope in the Democratic Party that it is Biden coming up from behind in Iowa because otherwise they are in serious...
00:19:39.000And Biden doesn't help himself because Biden is pathologically dishonest about his own record.
00:19:45.000So for example, he was hit by Bernie Sanders over the past few weeks about his views on Now, as I've said, in the past, when Joe Biden wasn't running for president, he used to be a somewhat reasonable human being, right?
00:19:56.000He voted for the crime bill of 1994, which was, contrary to popular opinion, a very good bill that helped lower the crime rates in the United States from historic highs.
00:20:05.000It's one of the great stories in American legal history, is the decline in crime between 1994 and 2015.
00:20:12.000People don't like to talk about that because that happened as a result of greater law enforcement and it's more comfortable to rip on law enforcement.
00:20:17.000In times of great prosperity and great peace, it is easy to rip on the sources of the prosperity and the peace.
00:20:23.000Biden was also in favor, 20 years ago, of freezing Social Security or at least reorganizing Social Security because he wasn't a complete insane person.
00:20:30.000But in the Democratic Party, this is a big no-no.
00:20:31.000So here is Joe Biden finally admitting yesterday, and I guess he was in New Hampshire, that he had talked about a social security freeze 20 years ago, but now he says he doesn't want to talk about that anymore.
00:20:41.000It's unnecessary because here's the thing in the Democratic Party, you never speak truth to progressive power.
00:20:45.000This fight with Bernie Sanders over Social Security.
00:20:48.000You've said that he, quote, doctored video of you from the Senate back in the day talking about Social Security.
00:20:53.000But you did argue that cost-of-living adjustments as part of a general spending freeze were necessary to cut federal spending and reduce the deficit.
00:21:03.000Even if Sanders is playing a little rough here, and your position has changed, what about those Democratic voters who say... It hasn't changed.
00:21:33.000He thought that he had the momentum in Iowa and New Hampshire.
00:21:36.000He was asked, he did a Fox News town hall, and he was asked about abortion by a pro-life Democrat, and he basically said, we have no place in our party for pro-life Democrats anymore, so at least the cat's out of the bag.
00:21:45.000I respect where you're coming from, and I hope to earn your vote, but I'm not going to try to earn your vote by tricking you.
00:21:52.000I am pro-choice, and I believe that a woman ought to be able to make that decision.
00:21:57.000I know that the difference of opinion that you and I have is one that we have come by honestly.
00:22:03.000And the best that I can offer, and it may win your vote, and if not, I understand.
00:22:07.000The best I can offer is that if we can't agree on where to draw the line, the next best thing we can do is agree on who should draw the line.
00:22:17.000And in my view, it's the woman who's faced with that decision.
00:22:20.000The woman asked, will you allow pro-life Democrats in the party?
00:22:22.000And there he is basically saying, no, I will never allow pro-life Democrats in the party.
00:22:30.000Open anti-Semites in position of power.
00:22:32.000That is the Bernie Sanders Democratic Party.
00:22:34.000So Democrats, if that is what you want, by all means, go for it.
00:22:37.000Just recognize that number one, you are probably conceding this election to Donald Trump.
00:22:41.000And number two, Democrats who don't believe this stuff, now would be the time for you to get up on your hind legs and say so.
00:22:47.000And meanwhile, President Trump, this is why I say, best thing for Trump is for Sanders to win the nomination.
00:22:51.000Worst thing for the country is for Sanders to win the nomination.
00:22:53.000President Trump is running behind virtually every Democrat in the national polling right now.
00:22:58.000That's not true necessarily in the swing states, but banking on the swing states alone is not a wonderful electoral strategy if you have any sort of possibility of not doing that.
00:23:06.000Right now, according to the new Fox News polling, former VP Joe Biden is leading Trump by nine points.
00:23:12.000Bloomberg also has an eight point margin over the president.
00:23:15.000Sanders has a six point margin on Trump.
00:23:48.000And that is why Trump's best line of defense, always and forever, Was that Democrats are motivated, Democrats do not like me, Democrats hate me, and that because Democrats are motivated and don't like me and they hate me, they're willing to skew what was an unfortunate phone call into an impeachable offense.
00:24:06.000Trump's line of defense always should have been Yes, I tied the foreign aid, the military aid to Ukraine to them pushing against corruption, including investigating all sorts of 2016 election interference, including corrupt activities with regard to the Obama administration.
00:24:20.000You should have just said that straight up.
00:24:22.000And then you should have said, you know what?
00:24:34.000Instead, because President Trump has a strategy that whenever he's accused of anything, he denies it all the way, instead he said, The problem is that is an unsustainable position.
00:25:12.000He's the first and only president ever to declare himself unaccountable and to ignore subpoenas backed by the Constitution's impeachment power.
00:25:22.000This is a determination by President Trump that he wants to be all-powerful.
00:25:27.000He does not have to respect the Congress.
00:25:30.000He does not have to respect The representatives of the people, only his will goes.
00:25:38.000Weird enough, because I'm old enough to remember when Barack Obama rejected a subpoena of materials from Eric Holder and Fast & Furious and asserted executive privilege over them.
00:25:46.000I'm also old enough to remember when Barack Obama suggested he was going to rule the country with a pen and a phone.
00:25:50.000So yeah, I'm not going to buy all of this.
00:25:52.000By the way, over the weekend, it was reported that back in 2016, Obama called Trump a fascist, which is hilarious considering that it was coming from a man who wanted government control of huge swaths of American life.
00:26:02.000In any case, the best defense for Trump is always the Democrats didn't prove their case.
00:26:06.000That's always the best defense, because that's all he has to do.
00:26:08.000In a prosecution, you don't have to prove that you're innocent of all charges, you just have to prove that you're not guilty.
00:26:13.000You just have to prove that they have not proved their case.
00:26:16.000And one of President Trump's lawyers basically said as much.
00:26:20.000He has a lawyer named Perpura, and this lawyer, Mike Perpura, he made the case, Deputy Counsel, he made the case that the Democrats had not proved their case because all they have at this point is speculation, which is true.
00:26:31.000All the Democrats have to support the alleged link between security assistance and investigations is Ambassador Sondland's assumptions and presumptions.
00:26:43.000When he says that all they've got is someone's presumptions of Trump's intent, that part is true.
00:26:48.000Someone testified that he thought that Trump was doing this with regard to Joe Biden, but he didn't have any real basis for that supposition.
00:27:17.000The Democrats claim that was a perfectly legit quid pro quo.
00:27:19.000So the question is whether that is a legit quid pro quo or a not legit quid pro quo.
00:27:23.000The problem is you get in trouble when you deny stuff that is obviously not deniable.
00:27:27.000So Mike Papura, again, an attorney for the president, here's where he gets into trouble.
00:27:30.000He says people who asked Trump about a link between security assistance and investigations were told there wasn't any.
00:27:36.000So here he's trying to prove a case that he doesn't have to prove.
00:27:38.000Simply because Trump is what Trump is.
00:27:40.000So Trump insists that you go out there and deny full-scale things that he probably did, and that makes you look bad.
00:27:45.000It makes it look suspicious, as I will explain in just one moment.
00:27:48.000So here are Trump's lawyers over the weekend making the case that there was no connection at all between the military aid and investigations of any kind.
00:27:55.000Which then would beg the question, okay, so then why are you withholding the military aid in the first place?
00:27:59.000Like, you literally did not explain why you're withholding the military aid.
00:28:08.000It had to do with all corruption centered around Democratic Party being favored by the Ukrainian government circa 2016.
00:28:13.000Okay, here is Mike Papura, though, trying to make an argument that he doesn't have to make.
00:28:18.000The two people in the House record who asked President Trump about whether there was any linkage between security assistance and investigations were told in no uncertain terms that there's no connection between the two.
00:28:30.000When Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland asked the President in approximately the September 9 timeframe, the President told him, I want nothing, I want nothing, I want no quid pro quo.
00:28:42.000Even earlier, On August 31, Senator Ron Johnson asked the President if there was any connection between security assistance and investigations.
00:29:27.000The motive is what's going on inside Trump's head.
00:29:30.000And as everybody knows, it's weird in there.
00:29:32.000So there's no way to prove what's going on inside President Trump's head.
00:29:35.000That would be his strongest line of defense.
00:29:37.000Instead, because he decided to set up his case at the furthest available point, which is perfect phone call, no quid pro quo, everything fine, out to get me.
00:29:46.000Because he did that, now he's opened the door to witnesses, as I'm about to explain.
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00:31:19.000Okay, so the reason that it makes a difference where President Trump presents his defense and the direction in which Trump presents his defense is because let's say that Trump said, sure, I was withholding the military aid because I wanted these investigations because what happened in 2016 I was withholding the military aid because I wanted these investigations because what It is important to know, did the Ukrainians interfere?
00:31:42.000It is important to know, were the Ukrainians working with the Obama administration?
00:31:45.000It is important to know all of those things.
00:31:47.000And you may not like how I went about that, but there's nothing illegal about that.
00:31:49.000That is a normal part of American foreign policy.
00:31:59.000Instead, because Trump made the claim there was no quid pro quo, that military aid was never attempted to be held back in favor of investigations, now when John Bolton says stuff, it's newsworthy.
00:32:09.000So, John Bolton is coming out with a new book.
00:32:12.000This whole thing is obviously a publicity setup, which makes it look a little bit scuzzy.
00:32:16.000Apparently the day that the New York Times decided to release its report on John Bolton's new book, the thing went live at Amazon.
00:32:23.000So obviously that looks a lot like a marketing pitch that was given to the New York Times in conjunction with the sales of the book.
00:32:29.000The National Security Council apparently denied that any White House personnel outside of its purview had seen the manuscript of former National Security Advisor John Bolton's book that was submitted to the White House for review.
00:32:40.000White House counsel Pat Cipollone is not part of the NSC, so this is apparently an on-the-record denial that anyone on Trump's impeachment defense team reviewed Bolton's manuscript, which makes sense, because why exactly would they be making a case that is explicitly contradicted by Bolton, which now means that the Democrats have a stronger case for calling Bolton than if the Republicans had said, yeah, everything that Bolton says is true, and also that's not impeachable.
00:33:03.000Then they would say, we don't need to hear from Bolton, we already know what he has to say.
00:33:06.000And by the way, we already admit that what he has to say is basically true.
00:33:10.000We just disagree on the motive, and he doesn't know the motive, and he never makes any allegations as to the motive.
00:33:16.000That would have taken the steam out of the kettle.
00:33:18.000Unfortunately for Republicans and for the Trump team, they went out and they made the case that Trump wanted them to make, which is that everything is hunky-dory and that John Bolton is lying.
00:33:26.000According to the New York Times, President Trump told his national security advisor in August He wanted to continue freezing $391 million in security assistance to Ukraine until officials there helped with investigations into Democrats, including the Bidens, according to an unpublished manuscript by the former advisor John Bolton.
00:33:41.000Okay, number one, right there, that could be the defense for Team Trump.
00:33:46.000Because it's not just we want the Bidens investigated, it's we want everything investigated surrounding 2016, including the Bidens.
00:33:52.000So does that sound like the Bidens are the sole target going into 2020?
00:33:55.000Or does it sound like Trump is a vindictive, thin-skinned man who believes conspiracy theories fed to him by Rudy Giuliani and wanted to check out 2016?
00:34:02.000All of which is bad and ugly, but none of which is impeachable.
00:34:05.000That's the case I have been making for months on this program.
00:34:09.000The president's statement, as described by Bolton, could undercut a key element of his impeachment defense, that the holdup in aid was separate from Trump's request that Ukraine announce investigations into his perceived enemies, including former VP Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden, who had worked for a Ukrainian energy firm while his father was in office.
00:34:24.000And by the way, Trump could make the claim if he had made that case that I'm suggesting he made, that of course we should look into Hunter Biden.
00:34:30.000There's a picture of Hunter Biden today that is emerging in the media of him getting out of a $120,000 sports car with his wife.
00:34:37.000Like three weeks ago, Hunter Biden claimed that number one, he was not the father of a child by a stripper, and number two, that he didn't have the money, that he was bankrupt, didn't have the money to pay for the child support for that kid, allegedly.
00:34:48.000That none of that looks great for the Bidens.
00:34:51.000Instead, because Trump insists on micromanaging every element of these defenses, and he insists on not just saying, OK, yeah, I shouldn't have done that, but like, was it really bad and was it really impeachable?
00:35:02.000Instead, it turns into everything's a lie, outright lie, which.
00:35:06.000Means that now it's very difficult not to call Bolton as a witness.
00:35:09.000And I understand there are Republicans out there today saying, well, the Democrats didn't call Bolton as a witness in the House.
00:35:18.000And it goes to the Democrats' credibility, which is nil.
00:35:20.000But if you're a Republican and you are running in a purple state in the Senate, do you want to be the person who said, I'm not going to hear from the key witness whose bombshell revelation directly contradicts statements by Team Trump?
00:35:33.000That's what the Democrats are counting on.
00:35:35.000Bolton's explosive account of the matter, according to the New York Times, was included in drafts of a manuscript that has circulated in recent weeks to close associates.
00:35:42.000He also sent a draft to the White House for a standard review process for some current and former administration officials who write books.
00:35:48.000Multiple people described Bolton's account of the Ukraine affair, The book presents an outline of what Bolton might testify to if he is called in as a witness.
00:35:55.000The White House could use the pre-publication review process to delay or even kill the book's publication or omit key passages.
00:36:01.000Just after midnight on Monday, Trump denied it, telling Bolton the aid was tied to the investigations.
00:36:05.000And now we have a direct contradiction between Trump and his own former national security advisor, which again is going to almost necessitate that Bolton be called in as a witness.
00:36:13.000The problem is that Trump is the worst defense client of all time.
00:36:17.000The first rule of being a defense client is shut your pie hole.
00:36:20.000Seriously, that is the first rule of being a defense client.
00:36:22.000If your lawyer tells you shut up, the answer is shut up.
00:36:25.000Don't go on Twitter and mouth off about things because now you have a direct 180 degree confrontation between John Bolton, who by the way is not a dishonest human being, and Donald Trump, who shall we say has a history of embellishing the truth.
00:36:40.000Okay, and here is what Donald Trump had to tweet.
00:36:42.000He tweeted, I never told John Bolton that the aid to Ukraine was tied to investigation into Democrats, including the Bidens.
00:36:48.000In fact, he never complained about this at the time of his very public termination.
00:36:52.000If Bolton said this, it was only to sell a book.
00:36:54.000With that being said, the transcripts of my call with President Zelensky are all the proof is needed.
00:36:59.000In addition to the fact that President Zelensky and the foreign minister of Ukraine said no pressure and no problems.
00:37:04.000I Additionally, I met with President Zelensky at the UN.
00:37:08.000Democrats said I never met and released the military aid to Ukraine without any conditions or investigations and far ahead of schedule.
00:37:15.000I also allowed Ukraine to purchase Javelin anti-tank missiles.
00:37:18.000My administration has done far more than the previous administration.
00:37:20.000Okay, like all the last part of that is true.
00:37:22.000Everything he says in the last part is true.
00:37:23.000There's only one sentence there that's a serious problem for him and it's John Bolton's line.
00:37:27.000Right, that John Bolton is only doing this to sell a book.
00:37:29.000Now, it may very well be true that this is going to help John Bolton's book sales.
00:37:32.000Also, when you accuse your own former National Security Advisor of openly lying, this is going to make it very difficult for Republicans to turn down a vote to call John Bolton as a witness.
00:37:43.000And this is why you are seeing Mitt Romney already saying he is likely to back witnesses.
00:37:47.000Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski are likely to back witnesses.
00:37:49.000It is very difficult at this point for the Republican senators to say no witnesses.
00:37:54.000Now, if this is turned into a purity test for Republicans, seriously, it's going to be so irritating.
00:37:58.000If there are people on the right who turn this into you back witnesses, therefore you're a disloyal Republican.
00:38:05.000No, that's not the way any of this works.
00:38:06.000When the president says one thing, and his former national security advisor says the opposite, this is a matter of interest to the American people.
00:38:13.000The honesty of the president is a matter of interest to the American people.
00:38:34.000So I think it would be a good idea for Donald Trump to testify, which is why even Trump's most ardent defenders are not saying, we'd love to hear directly from Donald Trump, because that would be like the biggest mistake he could possibly make, because then you're in danger of perjury, of course.
00:38:54.000According to Bolton's allegations, he described how the Ukraine affair unfolded over several months.
00:38:58.000He described not only the president's private disparagement of Ukraine, but also new details about senior cabinet officials who have publicly tried to sidestep involvement.
00:39:05.000For example, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo acknowledged privately there was no basis to the claims by the president's lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, that the ambassador to Ukraine was corrupt and believed Giuliani may have been acting on behalf of other clients.
00:39:16.000Okay, again, all of this is perfectly consonant with stupidity, but not with impeachment.
00:39:22.000I've been saying all along, I think this is what happened.
00:39:24.000Really, I've been saying like this since... You can go back and listen to the tapes.
00:39:27.000I've been saying this since like the first two weeks of this thing.
00:39:29.000That what happened is that Rudy Giuliani was being misled by a bunch of people with alternative agendas in Ukraine.
00:39:33.000He was feeding Trump a bunch of material that confirmed Trump's pre-existing biases with regard to 2016.
00:39:38.000And then those people were manipulating Rudy, who's then manipulating Trump with regard to doing certain things like firing Marie Yovanovitch and going after the Bidens in Ukraine and all the rest of this.
00:39:48.000Bolton said that after the President's July phone call with the President of Ukraine, he raised with AG William Barr his concerns about Giuliani and told Barr that the President had mentioned him on the call.
00:39:56.000A spokeswoman for Barr denied he learned of the call from Bolton.
00:39:59.000The Justice Department said he learned about it only in mid-August.
00:40:02.000Well, again, maybe he maybe Bolton raised it with with Barr after Barr had learned about it, or maybe he talked with an assistant.
00:40:10.000The acting White House chief of staff was present for at least one phone call where the president and Giuliani discussed at the ambassador.
00:40:15.000According to Bolton, Mulvaney has told associates who'd always step away when the president spoke with his lawyer to protect their attorney client privilege.
00:40:21.000In any case, Bolton's lawyer blamed the White House for disclosure of the book's content.
00:40:27.000The lawyer, Charles Cooper, said it's clear, regrettably, from the New York Times article published today, the pre-publication review process has been corrupted and that information has been disclosed by persons other than those properly involved in reviewing the manuscript.
00:40:37.000The White House did not provide responses to questions about Bolton's assertions.
00:40:40.000Okay, bottom line is, again, it's going to be difficult now for the Republicans to deny Bolton as a witness if he is called.
00:40:48.000Again, I don't think he's going to say anything that's impeachable.
00:40:50.000But it's not going to be good for Trump.
00:41:08.000And Lev Parnas, who's Rudy Giuliani's Skullduggerous associate in Ukraine is going around dropping tapes of Trump saying things directly to him.
00:41:18.000None of that makes Trump look particularly honest in all of this.
00:41:21.000Parnas did drop a tape over the weekend of Donald Trump telling him to take out the Ukrainian ambassador, which is a weird thing to say since, again, Marie Yovanovitch worked for Trump.
00:42:06.000Okay, so I suppose the idea is he's talking to Parnas, but we don't know who else is at the dinner, so maybe he's talking to one of his own officials.
00:42:13.000Okay, the bottom line is that if you tell Trump anything that is bad about Trump in front of Trump, Donald Trump will then say, take the person out, right?
00:42:33.000Everything here is hunky dory line because Trump refuses to defend his own line.
00:42:37.000He refuses to defend what he actually did.
00:42:39.000This is why when people are all over Mitt Romney about all likely back witnesses, as I've said all along, I don't really care about witnesses.
00:42:44.000I think the American people generally have a right to disclosure, and I'm consistent about this.
00:42:48.000If this were Barack Obama, I'd be saying the same thing.
00:42:50.000I would love to hear from witnesses, and that would include Hunter Biden.
00:42:53.000And yes, it would include John Bolton.
00:42:55.000This notion by Republicans that it's some sort of failure of purity if you don't want to allow, if you are okay with allowing witnesses when the president is directly contradicting his own NSA.
00:43:05.000I also don't buy that anything that Bolton is claiming is actually impeachable.
00:43:09.000Anyway, here's Mitt Romney who is taking, so Mitt Romney came out.
00:43:12.000He said that he would likely back witnesses.
00:43:13.000I say there are other Republicans who have said they will likely back witnesses.
00:43:17.000All of this could have been a lot easier if the defense attorneys for Donald Trump had told their client to stop this and stop it and be quiet and let us handle this.
00:43:25.000The Democrats did not prove their case.
00:43:27.000I mean, even Jeffrey Toobin over the weekend, before this Bolton stuff, even Jeffrey Toobin was saying, the Republicans are winning and the President is winning.
00:44:04.000And it is the best thing that could happen to somebody like Bernie Sanders, who again, is making the case that anybody can beat Trump, including an open commie at this point.
00:44:12.000Meanwhile, very quick update on the coronavirus situation.
00:44:17.000So, the coronavirus situation continues to grow.
00:44:21.000According to the Chinese, we now have over 80 deaths from the coronavirus.
00:44:26.000Draconian travel corps have been implemented.
00:44:28.000Some 50 million people in China have been barred from travel.
00:44:30.000There are apparently five cases in the United States of coronavirus.
00:44:35.000Apparently also it is communicable before symptoms show which is scary because you could have somebody who has it doesn't know they have it and they're already passing it on to other people.
00:44:42.000You know as far as how deadly this is and how much of a risk it is to the United States right now they're saying worldwide the number of confirmed cases is nearing 2,000.
00:44:50.000I think that it is important at this point to point out that the seasonal flu in the United States that the the flu was obtained by something like 3.7 million people in the United States in 2019.
00:45:04.0003.7 million cases of the flu, between 23,000 and 41,000 hospitalizations, and somewhere between 1,300 and 3,300 flu-related deaths in the United States, just between October 1st and December 7th, 2019.
00:45:17.000So when we talk about the coronavirus and the threat of the coronavirus, just recognize that there's flu epidemics every year, and a lot of people die from those flu epidemics.
00:45:37.000So President Trump this week is going to propose his peace plan in the Middle East.
00:45:41.000It's going to recognize some very simple on-the-ground realities.
00:45:44.000Realities like The Jewish quote-unquote settlements in Judea and Samaria which are not illegal under international law.
00:45:49.000There's nothing that says the Jews are forbidden from settling in areas of Judea and Samaria that are not only historic Jewish territory but are disputed territory under international law thanks to conflict.
00:45:59.000The peace plans of the past had always assumed those would remain Israeli territory.
00:46:04.000President Trump is going to maintain That those areas remain Jewish in any sort of deal, which of course is what is going to happen.
00:46:12.000The reason that that is actually smart is because if you wish to put pressure on the Palestinians to come to the table, one of the things you say is, listen, all the territory that the Jews are going and grabbing by settling there, all that territory, that's not coming back off the table.
00:46:24.000So the faster you make peace and you grab a territorial And you grab a territorial final settlement here, the better off you are going to be.
00:46:32.000The Palestinians, of course, have never intended on making peace under any circumstances.
00:46:35.000The great lie of the media and of the left is that the Palestinians have been desperate for peace.
00:46:38.000That is, of course, untrue on every level.
00:46:40.000They've been militating in favor of the destruction of the state of Israel consistently and without break.
00:46:46.000Since the creation of the State of Israel, the Palestine Liberation Organization, lest we forget, was founded in 1964, before the 1967 Six-Day War, which means that what they were attempting to liberate, quote-unquote, was Haifa and Tel Aviv, not Jerusalem.
00:46:59.000Not the West Bank, which was, at that point, covered by Jordan.
00:47:02.000So all of this is a recognition of reality.
00:47:05.000The Trump administration does recognize the reality on the ground with regard to the state of Israel.
00:47:10.000The White House is hoping that it can get the support of both Benjamin Netanyahu, the current prime minister, and Benny Gantz, who is his lead rival for the prime ministership, and that would provide some momentum.
00:47:20.000Gantz would be a fool to turn it down.
00:47:22.000Yisrael Beiteinu leader Avigdor Libran, who's sort of the swing vote over there, he made comments about both Netanyahu and Gantz's goals.
00:47:27.000Now, one of the great lies here is that the Trump administration is trying to prop up Netanyahu, as opposed to simply providing a real plan.
00:47:43.000I know a lot of the players on both sides with regard to this.
00:47:47.000Suffice it to say that Benny Gantz does not have significant disagreements with Benjamin Netanyahu on foreign policy, which I know comes as a great surprise to the idiots at the editorial board of the New York Times.
00:47:54.000Suffice it also to say that the Trump administration, they like Bibi, but if Gantz is the prime minister, they'll deal with him too.
00:48:14.000When you provide your people with no jobs, steal all the money and use it to build terror cells, it turns out that people get pissed off pretty easily.
00:48:21.000Okay, we'll bring you more details on that plan when it is finally released and when the media rip it up and down because the media are corrupt and don't understand the first thing about Middle Eastern politics.
00:48:29.000Okay, time for a quick thing that I hate.
00:48:30.000Okay, so obviously the thing that I hate today is this awful, awful news out of Los Angeles.
00:48:40.000Kobe Bryant and his daughter, among nine others, were killed in this awful helicopter crash that happened over here just off of Las Virginas.
00:48:47.000Apparently, the sort of best available information at this point suggests it was likely pilot error and not mechanical failure, although I'm sure we'll get more information.
00:48:55.000About that, as time goes on, it was very foggy yesterday, apparently, particularly in the area where the plane crashed.
00:49:00.000It's very hilly, so that means that if the helicopter pilot could not see the landscape, because I guess the helicopter pilot was flying beneath the cloud cover, and so if it got real foggy, he couldn't see, all of a sudden he'd get disoriented.
00:50:09.000The best thing that happens is when we go out and fans will come up to me and she'll be standing next to me and they'll be like, hey, you got to have a boy.
00:50:31.000There's a tape of them a couple of weeks ago sitting at a Lakers game and they're going over strategy and you can see it's really quite charming.
00:50:50.000It's just, just on a human level, it's truly awful.
00:50:53.000And whenever, obviously, somebody who touches this many people, you know, people always, it's easy to say, oh, a celebrity died, who cares?
00:52:17.000So last night in the NBA, there were a bunch of teams, because he was number 24, there were a bunch of teams that traded 24-second violations for folks who don't watch basketball.
00:52:29.000You have 24 seconds to bring the ball down court and take a shot and hit the rim.
00:52:32.000And so there were a bunch of teams all around the NBA where they opened the game by dribbling out the clock, the 24 seconds, and then the other team would take the ball and dribble out the clock.
00:52:42.000Obviously, it was a terrible story when he found out that Kobe was on the helicopter.
00:52:47.000The story got an enormous amount worse when he found out that his daughter was on the helicopter as well.
00:52:52.000You just gotta feel, for the family today, you gotta feel... I mean, really, stuff like this is so far apart from politics that it's not even worth discussing politics.
00:53:00.000There are people today who are very upset with Trump for having tweeted about it.
00:53:03.000Again, obviously when somebody who is a major figure dies, and whether you like Kobe or whether you didn't like Kobe, that was a major figure, when that happens, it's worth taking time to actually pause and appraise, especially because it is true that we spend an awful lot of our lives sort of denying the reality of what's coming for all of us, and when something like this happens really suddenly, it's really quite Quite awful.
00:53:24.000And really, we should all be praying for the Bryant family tonight, particularly his wife, who lost not only a husband, but also lost a child, which is just the most unthinkable thing that can happen.
00:53:34.000If you're a parent, you know that even the thought of that is like the worst thing that could possibly happen.
00:53:38.000And because I'm from Los Angeles, this is a big thing in LA.
00:53:41.000I remember yesterday, I happened to be at a kid's birthday party, and the news started to go around at the kid's birthday party, and it was It's pretty awful.
00:53:48.000I mean, the whole thing is really, really awful.
00:53:50.000So again, prayers for the Bryant family and, you know, prayers for all of us.