The Ben Shapiro Show - July 27, 2018


The Wrongthink Police | Ep. 590


Episode Stats

Length

57 minutes

Words per Minute

210.48555

Word Count

12,138

Sentence Count

818

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

10


Summary

The economy grew 4.1% in the second quarter, the fastest rate of growth since the third quarter of 2014. President Trump says that we re on track to hit the highest annual growth rate in over 13 years. Meanwhile, the left goes berserk after Jonathan Chait says something heretical, and Facebook s stock takes a massive dive, and the Mueller investigation might be expanding into President Trump s Twitter feed. This is The Ben Shapiro Show, where Ben tells you what's going on in the world, and how to deal with it. Today's After Show Was Hosted By: Ben Shapiro Ben Shapiro: How to Deal with the Left's Berserk Reaction to the Trump-Mueller-Chait Tweet What's the best thing going on with the economy? How should we react to the GDP numbers from the 2nd quarter and GDP numbers for the first quarter? What does it mean for the rest of the year and what impact will it have on the economy in 2020 and beyond, and why it's a good idea to have a 3% GDP in 2020 And much, much more! Thanks to our sponsor Dollar Shave Club for sponsoring the show! Don t forget to like, subscribe, share, and subscribe to our new podcast, and tell a friend about it! Ben's new book, "Ben Shapiro's New York Times Besties: The Best Reads of the Week" coming out on Amazon Prime Day! coming soon! Subscribe to Ben Shapiro's newest podcast, "The Best Thing I'm Working on the Internet, The Best Podcast on the World's Best Podcasts of All Things I've Been Working on a Good Podcasts by Ben Shapiro, the best podcast on the Best Podcast I've Got It's Not Working Yet, I'm Gonna Have It All, and I'll Tell a Friend, Too Good at It's All That's Good, I'll Be There Too Good, And I'll See You'll Hear That Too Good & I'll Hear It on The Best of That, Too Bad at That, I Can't Say That & I'm Not Good at That's, and More! . Subscribe on iTunes, and Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, too Good News, Good Things, Good Gotta Have It, Good Food, Good News and Good Thoughts, Good Reviews, and Good Things Are Good At That's Not Good, Good Thoughts by Good Things by Bad News, and Much More!


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The left goes berserk after Jonathan Chait says something heretical, Facebook stock takes a massive dive, and the Mueller investigation might be expanding into President Trump's Twitter feed.
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00:01:33.000 All right, so.
00:01:34.000 Good news today.
00:01:35.000 The economy boomed in the last quarter.
00:01:37.000 It jumped 4.1%.
00:01:38.000 President Trump held himself a little press conference to celebrate all of this.
00:01:42.000 According to CNBC, gross domestic product grew at a solid 4.1% pace in the second quarter.
00:01:47.000 That's the best pace since 2014.
00:01:49.000 There was a quarter in 2014 under President Obama in which the GDP jumped 5.2%, I believe.
00:01:55.000 But this has boosted hopes that the economy is ready to break out of its decade-long slumber.
00:01:59.000 If the next quarter is as good as this quarter, then we are looking at the possibility of 3% GDP annualized growth.
00:02:05.000 So when they say that it grew 4.1% in quarter two, what they really mean is that if you took that growth and you extended it over the course of the entire year, then the economy grew 4%.
00:02:13.000 It doesn't mean that the entire economy grew 4% in that particular quarter.
00:02:17.000 But with that said, if the economy continues to boom, it'll obviously be a boon to all of these Republican candidates in their congressional districts.
00:02:25.000 It'll be a boon to the president of the United States in his reelection efforts.
00:02:29.000 This is the fastest rate of growth since the 4.9% in the third quarter of 2014, which was revised downward, I believe, from 5.2.
00:02:34.000 It was the third best growth rate since the Great Recession.
00:02:38.000 In addition to the strong second quarter, the Commerce Department revised its first quarter reading up from 2% to 2.2%.
00:02:43.000 President Trump says that we are on track to hit the highest annual growth rate in over 13 years.
00:02:48.000 He says, I will say this right now, and I will say it strongly, as the deals come in one by one, we're going to go a lot higher than these numbers, and these are great numbers.
00:02:55.000 Now,
00:02:56.000 These are really good numbers, and I'm really, really pleased.
00:02:58.000 Because listen, when the economy booms, we all do better.
00:03:00.000 That is a wonderful thing.
00:03:02.000 It is bad salesmanship to come out and say that we're going to do a lot better than these numbers, because why would you oversell the economy?
00:03:08.000 Going out there and overselling it and then coming in short is a recipe for bad headlines.
00:03:12.000 Whereas if you just said, we just had a fantastic quarter and we look forward to continued strong growth in the economy, then you're not providing the sort of downside that your political opponents will jump on if we come in at 3.7% next quarter or 3%
00:03:26.000 Now, there are some people today who are suggesting that perhaps these GDP statistics are somewhat inflated by President Trump's tariffs.
00:03:33.000 Why?
00:03:34.000 Not because the economy jumped on the back of the tariffs, but simply because a bunch of foreign companies bought a lot of American product in expectation that tariffs were about to increase in their own country.
00:03:46.000 So, for example, if you're China, now is a good time to buy American soybeans before your own tariffs go into place on all of the
00:03:54.000 So, the export numbers were slightly inflated, according to some folks like Ben Smith over at CNBC.
00:04:05.000 We'll have to see if that is indeed the case as time goes on.
00:04:10.000 Residential real estate starts were a little bit slow, but all other areas of the economy continue to boom.
00:04:16.000 All of this is very good for the President of the United States.
00:04:19.000 One company that is not booming, however, is Facebook.
00:04:21.000 Facebook has taken a massive hit.
00:04:23.000 During a conference call on Wednesday, Facebook Chief Financial Officer David Wehner predicted bad news for the second half of the year.
00:04:29.000 The company's shares immediately began a drastic retreat in the extended session.
00:04:32.000 Facebook would see a $100 billion blow to its market cap after shares plunged 20% because the bloodbath was continuing into Thursday's trading session.
00:04:42.000 The decline was stunning not only because of the scale, according to MarketWatch, but because Facebook had managed to avoid this type of punishment through a multitude of sins, too numerous to fully list.
00:04:50.000 While the Cambridge Analytica controversy weighed on the stock and it easily rebounded from those declines, even during Zuckerberg's, Mark Zuckerberg's head of Facebook, congressional hearings earlier this year, the company's shares rebounded during his testimony.
00:05:01.000 Facebook seems to have become the Teflon company, but when it comes to finance, you actually have to show profit.
00:05:06.000 And one of the things that Facebook has done is they've cut off a lot of avenues to profit by cutting off a lot of their advertisers, particularly on the news side.
00:05:13.000 And then if they can't monetize the data they've been gathering from people because of things like the Cambridge Analytica scandal, it makes it questionable as to how they're actually going to earn for their investors.
00:05:22.000 So Facebook shares took a serious, serious hit.
00:05:25.000 And Mark Zuckerberg, his stock was worth $20 billion less than it was on Tuesday, basically, by the end of Thursday.
00:05:32.000 So that is some pretty stunning stuff.
00:05:35.000 Colin Sebastian, who's an analyst with Robert W. Baird, wrote,
00:05:51.000 I think so.
00:06:08.000 Right now, as in today, it has been down significantly today.
00:06:12.000 It was down almost 20% at one point during the day.
00:06:15.000 And over the course of the last five days, it has taken a massive hit.
00:06:19.000 Starting at the end of the trading day on Thursday, Twitter just plummeted.
00:06:23.000 It went from $43 a share all the way down to about $35 a share.
00:06:27.000 So it's a massive, massive hit over the end of the week.
00:06:30.000 And a lot of that has to do, again, with all sorts of trust issues that have been
00:06:38.000 Harming Twitter and then that ranges from the shadow banning scandal that is that has harmed Twitter To the fact they've had to purge all of these fake accounts on Twitter One of the serious questions about Twitter has already has always been what its profit model is going to be because you don't pay for Twitter It's free.
00:06:50.000 And so advertising was supposed to be the the profit model for Twitter But advertisers aren't seeing the kind of revenue that they want to see in return from Twitter.
00:06:59.000 And so the stock has dropped tremendously
00:07:02.000 The company did post another profit, which for the third consecutive quarter, it was able to do so in the company's history.
00:07:08.000 And the $134 million in net income it reported amounts to $0.13 a share.
00:07:12.000 Twitter's top line did climb, and it beat the fact set consensus estimate according to MarketWatch.
00:07:16.000 But investors were reacting to Twitter's slowing user growth because its monthly user count went south.
00:07:21.000 It fell by 1 million to 355 million from the year's first quarter.
00:07:24.000 So people are simply not joining Twitter at the same rate.
00:07:27.000 They may be experiencing the limit of the number of people who actually want to be on Twitter, which makes some sense because right now,
00:07:32.000 What you're seeing on Twitter is social media mobbing becoming the most popular form of entertainment on Twitter.
00:07:37.000 Somebody says something and you destroy them.
00:07:38.000 Somebody says something you don't like and you decide to end their career.
00:07:42.000 That means that a lot of prominent people are no longer going to take part in Twitter.
00:07:46.000 They're not going to take part on Facebook.
00:07:48.000 A lot of these social media companies have reaped the whirlwind and they would have been a lot better off if they just said, listen, we're a platform.
00:07:54.000 What happens on that platform?
00:07:56.000 Not our job to police it other than criminal activity.
00:07:58.000 But instead, the folks over at Twitter have said, we want to make a better user experience with healthier conversation.
00:08:04.000 And then people on the right say, well, yeah, but your definition of healthier conversation is not allowing us to talk.
00:08:08.000 Your definition of a healthy conversation on Twitter is shadow banning us.
00:08:12.000 Preventing our tweets from being seen.
00:08:14.000 And the same thing on Facebook, where people say, well, you've discriminated against particular points of view on Facebook, why would we want to give you our business?
00:08:22.000 These social media companies decided they didn't want the backlash from the left, and instead they drew the backlash from the right.
00:08:27.000 I don't think that that fully explains the decline in stock price, but it has something to do with the overall lack of trust people now feel in social media.
00:08:35.000 And the politicization of business is having some major impact across the board, and not just on people on the right, on people on the left as well.
00:08:42.000 The latest example comes courtesy of the Huffington Post.
00:08:45.000 So on Thursday, the Huffington Post revealed an absolute bombshell.
00:08:49.000 Liberal columnist Jonathan Chait of New York Magazine was in an all-hands staff meeting, and he said at this meeting that part of him was glad that President Trump had won the Oval Office.
00:08:58.000 This required the Huffington Post to run a front-page story about how terrible Jonathan Chait is.
00:09:02.000 Jonathan Chait is a hardcore liberal.
00:09:05.000 Big government.
00:09:05.000 Hates President Trump.
00:09:07.000 Doesn't like conservative policy.
00:09:08.000 But according to the Huffington Post's Ashley Feinberg, Chait, among others on the magazine's editorial staff, was asked whether any part of him was happy that President Trump had won thanks to the possibility of more exciting content.
00:09:19.000 And Chait answered honestly.
00:09:21.000 So according to the Post, listen to the way the Huffington Post reports this.
00:09:24.000 There's a woman named Traister, Rebecca Traister, who's a writer at large there.
00:09:28.000 Traister went first and gave the right answer, which is no, said one employee, and realized that there was a right answer to how do you feel about things.
00:09:35.000 She said there isn't a single molecule of her that is happy Trump won and that will all face repercussions for generations.
00:09:40.000 Chait, however, answered the question with an affirmative 100%.
00:09:43.000 According to the staffer, Chait said with a laugh, maybe that makes me a sociopath.
00:09:47.000 Some of the employees in attendance said the group was stunned by Chait's response.
00:09:50.000 Others were less surprised to hear the sentiment come from a self-described disenfranchised white man.
00:09:56.000 This is how the left responds to its own when they say something mildly positive about President Trump.
00:10:01.000 Not even that they love President Trump, want President Trump to remain president, but just he's entertaining.
00:10:07.000 The level of horror in the Huffington Post article is telling.
00:10:10.000 And of course, Jonathan Chait then got dragged on social media
00:10:13.000 Requiring him to respond to the Huffington Post in which he said that his comments were quote intended for an audience which I assume was familiar with my work and the obvious seriousness with which I take politics in general and Trump in particular.
00:10:24.000 I was commenting in an ironic and self-deprecating fashion about the way in which I can professionally disassociate myself from the events I am commenting on.
00:10:32.000 But that didn't stop folks on the left from losing it.
00:10:34.000 Jeet here over at The Atlantic said the disappointing thing here is that Chait, as I thought when I saw the headline, isn't an accelerationist, meaning there are some people on the left who are happy that Trump was elected because they think that it's going to precipitate a vast move to the left, but that's not what Chait was saying.
00:10:47.000 Andy Zeisler...
00:10:49.000 Who's another lefty, blue checkmark, said, LOL, I'm such a sociopath.
00:10:53.000 Actual sociopath.
00:10:55.000 And then, of course, you have folks like Oliver Willis at Media Matters, who is a complete dolt, saying, how white male of him.
00:11:00.000 So the left is now eating its own.
00:11:01.000 And then you wonder why so many people don't want to take part in social media.
00:11:05.000 You wonder why it is that so many people are running screaming from companies like Facebook and Twitter, and why Facebook and Twitter, in an attempt to stem that tide, have decided to crack down on conversations.
00:11:15.000 It turns out that OpenFORA, I mean, honestly, I sort of feel for the heads of Facebook and Twitter to the extent that OpenFORA are going to lead to a large amount of meanness.
00:11:24.000 But if you crack down on the meanness, there's no way to do that without cracking down on the content as well.
00:11:28.000 So it's no wonder that the stock is dropping for a lot of those companies, even as the economy booms.
00:11:34.000 OK, in just a second,
00:11:36.000 I want to talk about some of the bigger developments of the day with regard to President Trump.
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00:11:41.000 We just talked about some terrible, terrible things.
00:11:43.000 How people are mean to each other.
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00:13:06.000 So now let's talk about the news, which is not, in fact, warm and cuddly.
00:13:10.000 Speaking of not warm and cuddly, Michael Cohen, he's back at it.
00:13:15.000 So Michael Cohen, let's just make clear here.
00:13:17.000 Michael Cohen has an agenda.
00:13:18.000 Now, everyone in politics has an agenda.
00:13:20.000 Rudy Giuliani, the president's lawyer, has an agenda.
00:13:22.000 Michael Cohen, the president's former lawyer, has an agenda.
00:13:25.000 President Trump has an agenda.
00:13:26.000 Everybody's got an agenda.
00:13:27.000 Agenda, agenda, everybody's got an agenda.
00:13:29.000 Well, Michael Cohen is now coming out and saying that he's got the goods on President Trump.
00:13:34.000 Why would he say this?
00:13:35.000 After spending years and years and years being President Trump's loyal lackey?
00:13:38.000 Being a self-described consigliere to President Trump?
00:13:41.000 Paying off President Trump's former lovers?
00:13:43.000 Why exactly would Michael Cohen turn on him now?
00:13:45.000 Well, because the FBI raided his offices, right?
00:13:47.000 Because he's afraid of going to jail.
00:13:48.000 So now he's turning, and he's publicly saying, I have the goods on President Trump.
00:13:52.000 He's basically begging.
00:13:54.000 Michael Cohen is basically begging, at this point, Robert Mueller to cut him some sort of deal so he can avoid prison time, and in return, he will flip on President Trump.
00:14:01.000 That's what he is doing very publicly.
00:14:03.000 This really isn't conjecture at this point.
00:14:05.000 And the latest evidence of this is that Michael Cohen has now come out and he has said that President Trump knew in advance of the 2016 Trump Tower meeting between Donald Trump Jr.
00:14:14.000 and Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, who was involved with the government.
00:14:19.000 And who, it had been promised, would have the goods on Hillary Clinton.
00:14:22.000 According to CNN, Michael Cohen, President Trump's former personal attorney, claims that then-candidate Trump knew in advance about the June 2016 meeting in Trump Tower, in which Russians were expected to offer his campaign dirt on Hillary Clinton.
00:14:34.000 Sources with knowledge tell CNN.
00:14:36.000 Those sources with knowledge, their names might rhyme with Schmeichel-Mohan.
00:14:40.000 Cohen is willing to make that assertion to special counsel Robert Mueller, the sources said.
00:14:44.000 The sources, their names might rhyme with Schmeichel Glowen.
00:14:49.000 Cohen's claim would contradict repeated denials by Trump, Donald Trump Jr., their lawyers, and other administration officials who have said the president knew nothing about the Trump Tower meeting until he was approached about it by the New York Times in July 2017.
00:15:00.000 Now here is the timeline if you've forgotten all about the timeline.
00:15:03.000 The timeline was that in June 2016 there was a meeting between Donald Trump Jr.
00:15:07.000 and some members of the Trump campaign and Natalia Veselnitskaya all about supposedly bringing dirt to the attention of the Trump campaign from the Russian government that wanted to help Trump get elected, right?
00:15:17.000 This was the biggest smoking gun that the left had and there's no evidence that Donald Trump knew about it at all.
00:15:21.000 Donald Trump later
00:15:23.000 Well now, Michael Cohen has blown all of this sky high, supposedly.
00:15:24.000 So here's what Cohen alleges.
00:15:43.000 Cohen alleges that he was present, along with several others, when President Trump was informed of the Russians' offer by Trump Jr.
00:15:49.000 By Cohen's account, Trump approved going ahead with the meeting with the Russians, according to sources who may or may not be Michael Cohen.
00:15:54.000 To be clear, these sources, who may or may not be Michael Cohen, said Cohen does not have evidence, such as audio recordings, to corroborate his claim, but he is willing to attest to his account.
00:16:03.000 Okay, now, if Michael Cohen is willing to testify in court about this, this means that someone is committing perjury.
00:16:08.000 Either Michael Cohen is committing perjury or Donald Trump Jr., who testified under oath in front of Congress, I believe, is committing perjury.
00:16:14.000 Cohen privately testified last year to two congressional committees, but he said nothing about this at the time.
00:16:19.000 A source familiar with Cohen's House testimony said he did not testify that Trump had advanced knowledge.
00:16:24.000 That source may or may not be Schmeichel Moen.
00:16:26.000 Cohen's claims were not mentioned in separate reports issued by Republicans or Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee.
00:16:33.000 One of Cohen's attorneys, Lanny Davis, declined to comment on the report.
00:16:35.000 Now, all of this prompted President Trump to fire back at his now open warfare between the president and his former consigliere, Michael Cohen.
00:16:43.000 This is basically turning into the scene from Godfather 2 with Pantheon.
00:16:48.000 Is that what his name is?
00:16:51.000 I can't ask either of you.
00:16:52.000 Neither of you have seen The Godfather.
00:16:53.000 The two people in the room.
00:16:55.000 This has been a serious issue at the office.
00:16:56.000 Two people in the room.
00:16:57.000 Two producers in the room and the makeup gal, Jess.
00:17:00.000 Two people have not seen The Godfather in our offices.
00:17:02.000 It's just terrible.
00:17:03.000 It speaks poorly of the millennial generation in any case.
00:17:06.000 There's a character in Godfather 2.
00:17:08.000 I'm going to explain to you.
00:17:09.000 There's a character in Godfather 2, guys.
00:17:11.000 And that character in Godfather 2 is going to flip and testify against the Corleone family after spending years working with the Corleone family.
00:17:17.000 Okay?
00:17:18.000 That's Michael Cohen now.
00:17:19.000 Now he's flipping against... Do you get the analogy now?
00:17:21.000 Does it make sense?
00:17:22.000 Okay.
00:17:22.000 Now we can move on.
00:17:23.000 So...
00:17:24.000 The question is whether Cohen actually has the goods or not.
00:17:26.000 President Trump is very, very upset about all of this.
00:17:29.000 So the president of the United States says this on Twitter.
00:17:47.000 The only collusion with Russia was with the Democrats, so now they are looking at my tweets, along with 53 million other people.
00:17:53.000 The rigged witch hunt continues.
00:17:55.000 How stupid and unfair to our country.
00:17:57.000 And so the fake news doesn't waste my time with dumb questions.
00:18:00.000 No, I did not know of my meeting with the son, Don Jr.
00:18:04.000 Sounds to me like someone is trying to make up stories in order to get himself out of an unrelated jam.
00:18:09.000 Taxi cabs, maybe?
00:18:11.000 He even retained Bill and Crooked Hillary's lawyer.
00:18:13.000 Gee, I wonder if they helped make him the choice.
00:18:17.000 Helped him make the choice.
00:18:17.000 Okay, so Donald Trump is now accusing Michael Cohen of basically being run by Bill and Crooked Hillary's lawyer.
00:18:26.000 Which is weird.
00:18:27.000 So listen, do I think that Michael Cohen is telling the truth?
00:18:30.000 No, I think Michael Cohen is a serial liar.
00:18:32.000 I think Michael Cohen is also an idiot.
00:18:34.000 I think a lot of things about Michael Cohen.
00:18:36.000 I think he's a liar.
00:18:36.000 I think he's an idiot.
00:18:37.000 I think Donald Trump hired him, which doesn't speak highly of his hiring abilities, and then worked with him for years.
00:18:41.000 But is there any reason for me to believe that after two years of saying that nothing happened, Michael Cohen, as soon as he is threatened with legal repercussions, suddenly flips and says, oh yeah, Trump knew all about that Trump Tower meeting.
00:18:54.000 Is there any reason for me to believe Michael Cohen?
00:18:55.000 No.
00:18:56.000 Now, is there a lot of reason for me to believe Donald Trump on this particular score?
00:19:00.000 Not really.
00:19:00.000 But I'm actually going to have to see some evidence before I believe the allegation that Donald Trump knew about the meeting.
00:19:05.000 Maybe he knew about the meeting.
00:19:06.000 Maybe he didn't.
00:19:07.000 But I'm not exactly going to sit around listening to Michael Cohen.
00:19:11.000 The media are, though.
00:19:11.000 The media are just ecstatic about this.
00:19:13.000 They think, finally, we've got Trump.
00:19:15.000 It is so
00:19:16.000 It's wild watching the media think they have Trump at every turn.
00:19:20.000 We finally have Trump, and then it's like watching a fat kid with a greased pig.
00:19:26.000 I mean, they're chasing him, and then there's the greased pig, and they finally have him, and they fall forward, and boom, right in the mud.
00:19:31.000 And then they get up, and they chase the greased pig around a little bit more, and then boom, right in the mud.
00:19:35.000 And by the end, the only person covered with mud is the fat kid, in this case the media, and the greased pig just keeps escaping.
00:19:42.000 If you think that Michael Cohen is going to be the club with which you beat Donald Trump, this is the funny thing, right?
00:19:46.000 All of the clubs the media have used to beat Donald Trump are, at the very least, as bad people as Donald Trump.
00:19:54.000 Stormy Daniels is not exactly a paragon of moral virtue.
00:19:57.000 And that was the club that they decided they were going to use to beat Donald Trump with.
00:20:00.000 It was the porn star who had a one-night stand with a guy who was married.
00:20:04.000 And has sex on film for a living and then took $130,000 from that guy and now is supposed to be the great Democratic hero.
00:20:11.000 And now they're going to go to Michael Cohen, who until five minutes ago was the worst person in the world, according to Democrats.
00:20:15.000 But now he's a truth telling hero.
00:20:18.000 He's the whistleblower.
00:20:18.000 He's the insider.
00:20:20.000 He's going to get Trump.
00:20:21.000 Yeah, good luck with that.
00:20:22.000 Good luck with that.
00:20:23.000 Maybe it turns out that Trump knew about the meeting at Trump Tower.
00:20:28.000 Maybe not.
00:20:29.000 But I am not really going to believe Michael Cohen's word.
00:20:34.000 I just don't buy it.
00:20:35.000 OK, so in just a second, I'm going to show you that the Trump team does not buy it either.
00:20:39.000 We're good to go!
00:20:54.000 We're good to go!
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00:22:19.000 So, obviously, the Trump team is unhappy with Michael Cohen.
00:22:23.000 Rudy Giuliani, who is President Trump's new lawyer, and who has not demonstrated tremendous credibility on a lot of issues himself, he says that Michael Cohen is a pathological liar.
00:22:33.000 So here's what he has to say about it.
00:22:34.000 I expected something like this.
00:22:36.000 From Cohen, he's been lying all week.
00:22:38.000 I mean, or for two, he's been lying for years.
00:22:40.000 I mean, there's nobody that I know that knows him that hasn't warned me that if he's, back is up against the wall, he'll lie like crazy because he's lied all his life.
00:22:48.000 Okay, so there's a famous logical conundrum in which you go up to, in which you go up to a knight.
00:22:54.000 Okay, this is called the knights and knaves problem in logic.
00:22:56.000 And the knights and knaves problem goes something like this.
00:22:59.000 You walk up to a guy on the road and you say to him, are you a knight or are you a knave?
00:23:05.000 And he says, I am a knave.
00:23:07.000 Now, is he a knight or is he a knave?
00:23:10.000 You don't know.
00:23:11.000 Because if he's a knave, then he would say that he were a knight.
00:23:14.000 And if he's a knight, he can't say that he's a knave.
00:23:16.000 Right?
00:23:35.000 For example, rewriting Donald Trump Jr.'
00:23:37.000 's statement on the Trump Tower meeting, or with regard to Stormy Daniels, or with regard to a myriad of other topics on this particular subject.
00:23:44.000 You can't necessarily believe what President Trump has to say just because he said it.
00:23:48.000 And then you've got Michael Cohen, who lies an awful lot and also doesn't know what polls are.
00:23:52.000 So you've got a lot of things to worry about with Michael Cohen.
00:23:54.000 Then you've got Rudy Giuliani, who in the last several weeks has backtracked several times on a variety of different topics.
00:23:59.000 So which one is lying?
00:24:00.000 I don't know.
00:24:01.000 I don't know.
00:24:02.000 I mean, you don't know either.
00:24:03.000 So the only thing I will say is that if Michael Cohen, in fact, were aware that Donald Trump knew about the Trump Tower meeting, the serious question to be asked is why there are no tapes of it.
00:24:14.000 Because obviously the guy was taping everything.
00:24:16.000 The guy had an obsession with tape.
00:24:18.000 He has tapes of himself and Donald Trump chatting about everything under the sun.
00:24:23.000 That's how we now have glorious, glorious audio of the president ordering a Coke from one of his associates.
00:24:27.000 So, there's, I just, I find all this non-credible.
00:24:31.000 It seems like there are a lot of stretches going on in this entire attempt.
00:24:35.000 So, another stretch that's going on.
00:24:36.000 According to Michael Schmidt and Maggie Haberman over at the New York Times, quote, for years, President Donald Trump has used Twitter as his go-to public relations weapon, mounting a barrage of attacks on celebrities and then political rivals, even after advisors warned he could be creating legal problems for himself.
00:24:49.000 If you have to go through President Trump's Twitter feed for evidence of obstruction of justice, I'm going to say you don't have much, okay?
00:24:55.000 We all saw all of those tweets, and the explanations are just what they always were.
00:25:13.000 Either President Trump is obstructing justice and trying to stymie the Mueller investigation because he's trying to hide something, or the President is just mouthing off about things.
00:25:22.000 The President is just frustrated with Mueller, and he's frustrated with Comey.
00:25:25.000 End of story.
00:25:25.000 Which one of those do you think is more likely?
00:25:27.000 That the President is really obstructing justice, that he has something deep and dark to hide, or that the President of the United States says a lot of stuff on Twitter.
00:25:36.000 Now, as I've said, my belief on this is very clear.
00:25:39.000 The president says a lot of stuff on Twitter, and if your best evidence is going to be stuff that he says to 50 million people on Twitter, then he's really bad at collusion, right?
00:25:46.000 He's really bad at collusion and obstruction.
00:25:48.000 Like, I just, I don't buy any of this, and I find it difficult to believe that this is what's going to take down President Trump is going to be Twitter.
00:25:58.000 Now, they are also saying that federal investigators in Manhattan have asked to interview Allen Weisselberg, who's the chief financial officer of the Trump Organization, as part of their investigation into Michael Cohen.
00:26:06.000 Now, what's really fascinating about the kind of Michael Cohen and Robert Mueller of all of this is that while everybody is focused on the Mueller investigation, it really is going to be the Cohen stuff that is going to be more damaging to President Trump, if there is anything that damages President Trump.
00:26:19.000 It's so funny.
00:26:20.000 Everybody is so polarized now that when you say things like, why don't we just wait for the evidence to come out?
00:26:24.000 People immediately jump to, well, you must be a shill for President Trump or you must be a shill for Robert Mueller.
00:26:29.000 It's weird.
00:26:30.000 When Mueller comes out with indictments and I say, OK, well, there's some good stuff and I'm waiting to see more evidence on President Trump.
00:26:39.000 Then people say, why don't you just go along with Mueller?
00:26:42.000 Why don't you just believe, just believe that collusion happened and that obstruction happened?
00:26:45.000 And I'm like, well, I'm waiting for the evidence.
00:26:47.000 But when Trump says that there is no, that this is all a witch hunt, that there's nothing there, I say, well, listen, I'll just wait for the evidence.
00:26:52.000 And then people on the right say, how dare you wait for the evidence?
00:26:55.000 How dare you?
00:26:56.000 You know why?
00:26:57.000 Because I'm a lawyer and also a rational human, and you should be too.
00:27:00.000 If you don't have evidence of an allegation, you should wait for the evidence of the allegation to amount to something before you jump to the conclusion.
00:27:08.000 And the fact that everybody is willing to jump to conclusions without waiting for the evidence is more than slightly troubling to me.
00:27:14.000 Okay, meanwhile, the Republicans are signaling to their own base a lot.
00:27:19.000 Now, Jim Jordan, a guy who I really like, Representative Jim Jordan from Ohio, a strong Freedom Caucus member, a very, very conservative member of Congress,
00:27:27.000 He is running for Speaker of the House.
00:27:30.000 And I think that he would make a very good Speaker of the House or a House Minority Leader if, God forbid, the Democrats win back Congress in 2018, because he is quite strong.
00:27:37.000 He is quite militant.
00:27:38.000 He is willing to go up against the Democrats with everything at his disposal.
00:27:41.000 He is more of a blunt instrument than Paul Ryan in terms of taking on the left.
00:27:46.000 And I like that about Jim Jordan.
00:27:47.000 He's not somebody who's going to pull his punches.
00:27:49.000 So I'm very much in support of the idea that Jim Jordan is going to run for Speaker of the House.
00:27:55.000 He said that he's sending a letter to his colleagues as we speak.
00:27:58.000 That said, I think that the sort of signaling that is going on from the right wing of the Republican caucus with regard to, for example, Rod Rosenstein, as I said yesterday, I think is a mistake.
00:28:07.000 The attempt to impeach Rod Rosenstein is counterproductive, and it signals to the country that you're trying to cover up something from President Trump.
00:28:14.000 That's what it actually signals.
00:28:15.000 There's what you think it signals to your base, which is, Rosenstein and the deep state are out to get Trump, let's fire Rosenstein.
00:28:20.000 And then there's what it signals to the rest of the country, which is Congress is a lackey of the president, and they're doing his dirty work for him.
00:28:25.000 Because guess what?
00:28:26.000 If Trump wanted to fire Rod Rosenstein, he has every capacity to do so right now.
00:28:30.000 He doesn't have to wait to do it.
00:28:31.000 He can also declassify all the materials that the Republicans in Congress want Rod Rosenstein to release.
00:28:37.000 I think that, you know, Paul Ryan has this right.
00:28:40.000 He says he doesn't support Rosenstein's impeachment.
00:28:42.000 Frankly, I don't either.
00:28:43.000 I don't think that it's a good idea.
00:28:45.000 I think it's politically stupid to move for the impeachment of Rod Rosenstein.
00:28:49.000 I understand why some of the leaders in the House are doing it.
00:28:51.000 I think they're doing it because they want to show that they are very much in support of President Trump and that they're standing up to the deep state and that there are going to be a lot of rah-rah cheerleaders on the conservative side of the aisle who are happy because fight, fight, fight, fight, fight, MAGA, MAGA.
00:29:03.000 I don't think it's smart politically.
00:29:05.000 I have to agree with Speaker of the House Ryan on this.
00:29:08.000 Here's what he had to say.
00:29:09.000 It is appropriate that we conduct oversight of the executive branch and that we get full compliance with the executive branch on what are very legitimate document requests.
00:29:18.000 Do I support impeachment of Rod Rosenstein?
00:29:20.000 No, I do not.
00:29:21.000 Okay, and here's something for Republicans to remember.
00:29:24.000 If you set the precedent that somebody ought to be impeached over not being completely transparent with oversight committees in Congress, wait till the Democrats have control of Congress.
00:29:32.000 Wait till they're subpoenaing documents from members of the Trump administration.
00:29:35.000 Wait until they call Trump before them for testimony.
00:29:39.000 Wait until all that happens and then launch impeachment on the back of this kind of stuff.
00:29:42.000 It's just, it's not particularly smart.
00:29:45.000 Okay.
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00:30:41.000 All right, let's mailbag it up.
00:30:42.000 Let's talk about, let's talk about your questions.
00:30:44.000 Okay, Nicholas says,
00:31:01.000 He said at some point he hopes that I'll come and speak at the University of Kentucky because they have great bourbon, which is a strong, strong pitch.
00:31:07.000 Okay, so here's the answer with regard to interest.
00:31:09.000 So in Judaism, first of all, there's a huge portion of Talmudic law that is basically designed to work out
00:31:18.000 Variations on interest.
00:31:19.000 Because interest is quite good for the economy.
00:31:22.000 Because one of the big problems is that if I am not allowed to loan money at interest to Senya, I might loan money at no interest to Senya because I'm friendly with Senya.
00:31:31.000 But if I have to loan money at interest to Austin, I'm not going to do it.
00:31:35.000 Without interest?
00:31:37.000 Because what if he never pays me back?
00:31:38.000 I mean, he's a Cubs fan.
00:31:40.000 I can't trust Cubs fans.
00:31:41.000 So why exactly would I loan him money at no interest?
00:31:43.000 One of the great incentives to loan people money is that you are able to charge them interest and that creates a sort of security for you to lend them the money in the first place.
00:31:51.000 Well, it is important to understand the context in which the rules on interest are written in the Bible.
00:31:57.000 Religious communities are supposed to be seen as charitable social safety nets.
00:32:01.000 That's what they're supposed to be seen as.
00:32:04.000 And so, in Judaism, if you have a business that is loaning money to another business, it's not clear that that is actually banned.
00:32:09.000 So this has actually become an issue with, for example, Bank Leumi, which is the Israeli national bank, is that if you loan at interest in your institution, it may not be quite the same thing biblically as me loaning money to Senya.
00:32:21.000 Or me loaning money to, take a more specific religious example, me loaning money to a fellow member of my synagogue.
00:32:26.000 The idea in Christianity and Judaism is that members of a community should act as support structures for one another and loan each other money at no interest so that everybody can prosper.
00:32:37.000 This is also true, by the way, under Qur'anic law.
00:32:40.000 The Qur'an is very much against interest.
00:32:41.000 Now, there are people who suggest that that's because these are all human-written
00:32:47.000 Documents supposedly then people just didn't understand how interest works.
00:32:50.000 I find that a little bit I find that a little bit cynical I think instead the basic idea here is the same as it is in the New Testament when it says that that Jesus's disciples lived in common and then people use that as a as a as evidence and
00:33:03.000 That Jesus was a communist?
00:33:04.000 And the answer is no.
00:33:04.000 They lived as a family.
00:33:05.000 You also live in common with the members of your family.
00:33:08.000 I wouldn't lend money to my wife at interest.
00:33:10.000 I wouldn't lend money to members of my community at interest.
00:33:12.000 I mean, I've lent money to people in my community at no interest rate, right?
00:33:17.000 Because I think that that's the moral thing to do.
00:33:20.000 But that is, in fact, an act of charity.
00:33:23.000 If you actually want to have a functional economy, obviously you have to lend money at interest.
00:33:26.000 Jordan says, Okay, so this is a basic marital rule.
00:33:28.000 You ready for this?
00:33:28.000 Basic marital rule.
00:33:29.000 It's your wife's job to tell her parents to stop.
00:33:51.000 It is not your job to tell her parents to stop.
00:33:53.000 It's just going to be a terrible disaster if you do that.
00:33:55.000 If you tell her parents, listen, mom, I need you to back off, then she's just going to go complain to your wife.
00:34:00.000 Your wife's going to say, why were you so mean to my mom?
00:34:02.000 And then you got trouble because she's not sleeping anyway and she's nursing the six month old.
00:34:05.000 So what you actually want, and this is a rule that we have in my family, is that if there's a problem with my parents, if my wife has a problem with my parents, it is my job to convey that to my parents, particularly because you have to be open minded about your own parents that maybe, listen,
00:34:18.000 Your parents, this is one of the toughest lessons in life, seriously, is when you grow up, part of growing up is realizing that your parents are human beings, too, and they make mistakes, and sometimes they're annoying, and sometimes they do silly things.
00:34:28.000 My parents are wonderful.
00:34:29.000 They are wonderful.
00:34:30.000 I mean, they basically provide secondary childcare to my kids all the time.
00:34:35.000 But there are times when I will have to say to my parents, listen, Dad, that's not the way that I really want to do that, or listen, Mom, that's really not the way that we want to do that.
00:34:42.000 And my parents are really, because they're good people, they're willing to hear that out.
00:34:44.000 They understand my kids are my kids, and I'm raising my kids as I want to raise my kids.
00:34:48.000 The same thing is true of my wife's parents.
00:34:50.000 If there is a problem with my wife's parents, it is her job to speak to her parents.
00:34:54.000 You should talk to your wife.
00:34:55.000 You should have a conversation about what it is that bothers you.
00:34:56.000 And if your wife is open-minded and she does the right thing, have her listen to the segment.
00:35:01.000 It is open-minded of her to listen to your critique and then go talk to her parents and tell them to back off.
00:35:05.000 Because parents take it a lot better coming from their own kids than they do from the in-law who stole their child from them.
00:35:10.000 Now Clayton says, Hi Ben.
00:35:12.000 So Taylor Swift is my absolute favorite artist.
00:35:17.000 No!
00:35:18.000 No.
00:35:21.000 I believe her musical abilities rival that of great composers such as Bach, Brahms, and Mozart.
00:35:26.000 Senya.
00:35:28.000 Senya must have planted this.
00:35:30.000 Every day after the show, if I don't do my ad reads, the extra ad reads that I have to do properly after the show, Senya will play Taylor Swift in my ear as a sort of Chinese water torture in order to get me to do what she wants me to do.
00:35:46.000 She loves Taylor Swift.
00:35:47.000 Yeah, now we're playing.
00:35:50.000 Why would you do this?
00:35:51.000 Stop that!
00:35:52.000 Stop it right now!
00:35:53.000 I have to finish this show, and if I die, I won't finish the show.
00:35:57.000 God, and you played the worst of all of her songs, Bad Blood with Lena Dunham, how dare you?
00:36:01.000 Says, could you please tell me how much you love Taylor Swift?
00:36:04.000 Thank you, Shapiro2020.
00:36:06.000 How much do I love Taylor Swift?
00:36:08.000 Let me count the ways.
00:36:09.000 Okay, zero!
00:36:11.000 Zero are the ways in which I love Taylor Swift.
00:36:14.000 Okay, Kevin says, The answer is no.
00:36:20.000 Okay?
00:36:22.000 Tariffs are not a good thing unless you're using them as a ratchet to get another country to lower its tariffs and you have to use it as a sort of leverage point.
00:36:31.000 Also, you can punish cheating in terms of like, if somebody's stealing IP and then shipping the product back into the country, if they're actually violating fraud laws, then tariffs are appropriate as a punishment.
00:36:42.000 But,
00:36:43.000 If the idea is that somebody else is just making cheap products that people want to buy, I don't see why it's any of your business if I want to buy a Japanese Walkman.
00:36:49.000 Like, that really is none of your business at all.
00:36:57.000 Well, honestly, I'm not sure I'd have a lot to say to Bernie Sanders, because I'm not sure that Bernie Sanders is the kind of guy who listens to things.
00:37:03.000 I'm not sure that we would actually have a good conversation.
00:37:05.000 I'd probably try to avoid politics if I wanted to have a pleasant evening with Bernie Sanders, because what could I say to him that would actually convince him?
00:37:14.000 This is actually a serious question.
00:37:16.000 You do have to assess whether conversations are worth it.
00:37:18.000 I'm not sure a conversation with Bernie Sanders is worth it.
00:37:20.000 A debate with Bernie Sanders is definitely worth it.
00:37:22.000 And with that in mind, I issue this open challenge.
00:37:24.000 Anytime, anywhere,
00:37:26.000 You can shoot me up with Valium, you can club me in both kneecaps, and I'm happy to debate Bernie Sanders under any physical condition.
00:37:36.000 Like, any physical condition, anywhere in the United States, basically, so long as I'm half-sentient.
00:37:41.000 I'm happy to do that.
00:37:42.000 As far as what kind of pudding cups would I bring, well, I mean, I know the man loves pudding cups.
00:37:48.000 But I think I would deprive him of pudding cups.
00:37:50.000 I think what I would do is I would only bring one type of pudding cup.
00:37:52.000 And then I would suggest that a free market system provides too many different options for pudding cups.
00:37:57.000 And clearly what we need is a government centralization of all pudding cups and redistribution of pudding cups.
00:38:01.000 And if he has to pay with less pudding cups, then that's just the way it goes.
00:38:04.000 Justin says, on tariffs, other than having strong leverage, how does a nation get other countries to lower their tariffs without threatening them with our tariffs?
00:38:10.000 There are actually a lot of ways to get other countries to lower their tariffs, without actually increasing our tariffs.
00:38:16.000 First of all, if they want to increase their own tariffs on our products, that doesn't actually hurt our economy in any significant way, since we are just getting cheaper products and inputs, and then we can generate our own products, and then we can sell that to other markets.
00:38:27.000 Thank God there are not only two players in the global system.
00:38:30.000 But let's simplify economics for just a second.
00:38:34.000 There are only two people in the world, you and the guy who owns the grocery store.
00:38:37.000 And the guy who owns the grocery store does not want to, and you're a carpenter, he doesn't want to use you to make the shelves, right?
00:38:42.000 He says, I'm not going to use you to make the shelves.
00:38:43.000 I'm tariffing you.
00:38:45.000 The groceries are still cheap at the grocery store.
00:38:47.000 Would you rather go in your backyard and farm all of your stuff yourself and then you have to do your carpentry and you also have to grow your own wheat in the backyard?
00:38:55.000 Or would you be better off just going and buying the groceries and then spending the extra time trying to find another client?
00:39:02.000 You know, the idea that you actually make yourself better off by taxing yourself at a higher rate, I think, is completely silly.
00:39:07.000 The highest leverage for free trade is the fact that people would actually, in their own countries, want access to your products and services, which is why the
00:39:18.000 Again, if you're temporarily increasing tariffs in order to lower other people's tariffs, I don't really have a problem with that.
00:39:23.000 But if you're using tariffs as a way of strengthening your own economy, I think that's idiotic.
00:39:28.000 Well, first of all, I think the president really needs to stop saying things that make him unpopular, because as I've said with my balloon theory of politics a little bit earlier this week, I think the president has squeezed all the air out of the presidential side of the balloon.
00:39:41.000 Anything he does from here on in doesn't affect the presidential polling, but it does affect the congressional polling.
00:39:46.000 Other than that, I'm not sure what the Republicans can do, frankly.
00:39:49.000 I mean, I think the Republicans should just go out and campaign on the economy, they should go out and campaign on the tax cuts, they should go out and campaign on getting rid of the individual mandate.
00:39:55.000 There are a lot of good things for them to campaign on.
00:39:57.000 They're going to need to stop making big boo-boos because congressional elections turn on big boo-boos.
00:40:02.000 Let's see.
00:40:03.000 Alexander says, Hi Ben, could you please make the case for why I should have you as a role model as opposed to Michael Knowles?
00:40:08.000 Thanks so much.
00:40:08.000 Yes, I've been married for 10 years.
00:40:10.000 I have two children.
00:40:11.000 I was a virgin until I was married.
00:40:14.000 I live a clean lifestyle and I am significantly richer than Michael Knowles.
00:40:19.000 Well, I'd sort of have to know what the job interview was.
00:40:22.000 All I would say is that
00:40:39.000 Being honest with your employer when they ask you trick questions, like, what is your greatest flaw, is probably a better way to tackle things than trying to outsmart the question.
00:40:48.000 Usually what people do is they say, well, what is your greatest flaw?
00:40:51.000 And you say, I'm too diligent.
00:40:53.000 I work too hard.
00:40:53.000 You know, I'm a workaholic.
00:40:55.000 I work too many hours.
00:40:55.000 It's like, no, that's not what they're looking for.
00:40:57.000 What they're looking for is for you to say something like, you know, I need to be more self-critical of my own work, right?
00:41:05.000 Stuff like that.
00:41:06.000 As far as negotiating a salary,
00:41:09.000 Pick a number higher than the one you want.
00:41:10.000 I used to make this mistake in negotiations.
00:41:12.000 And the negotiation used to go, me saying what I actually wanted, and then somebody coming back with a lower number.
00:41:17.000 I would negotiate based on what I need, not what I can get.
00:41:19.000 If you're actually negotiating on salary, you should try to assess what the other side thinks you're worth, and then try to go a little higher than that number and let them negotiate you down.
00:41:27.000 I know, it's stupid.
00:41:27.000 It would be better if everybody could just be honest about what they actually want, but unfortunately nobody is in these negotiations.
00:41:32.000 Alexander says,
00:42:03.000 I think that there are folks on the left who basically suggest that if you disagree with them, you are not a legitimate person of minority status.
00:42:10.000 And listen, the same thing has happened to me as a Jew, right?
00:42:13.000 When I was critical of the alt-right, then it was Jewish commentator Ben Shapiro.
00:42:18.000 And when I am critical of Barack Obama, then it is white nationalist critic Ben Shapiro.
00:42:24.000 I'm the same person.
00:42:25.000 I didn't change.
00:42:25.000 We're in the same yarmulke.
00:42:27.000 Nothing has changed.
00:42:28.000 But this is how the left acts because the left has now identified all core goods with minority, ethnic, racial, cultural status and all core bads with majoritarian white status.
00:42:39.000 So it's really that simple and it's really gross.
00:42:43.000 I'm a stay-at-home mom of a six and two-year-old.
00:42:46.000 My husband and I have pretty much decided we are not going to have any more children, but lately I've been having some second thoughts.
00:42:51.000 Not because I want more kids, it is a challenge handling the ones I have now, and I feel like we'll be able to offer more attention and opportunities to our kids since there's just two, but I almost feel like we have some sort of responsibility to have more since we're a stable Christian home, we have a great relationship, and my husband has put in the hard work so that I can be home full-time.
00:43:05.000 Just curious about your thoughts on this.
00:43:06.000 Thanks.
00:43:08.000 You know, I do believe that people should have more than two children.
00:43:12.000 I believe people should have lots of kids.
00:43:14.000 You know, I'm not saying, listen, you gotta make the judgment for yourself.
00:43:17.000 I've suggested that I think that healthy, able-bodied people who are responsible with their lives should definitely have kids.
00:43:23.000 I think that it is selfish not to have kids if you can provide a kid with a good home because the next generation is significantly more important than your pleasure over the next 20-odd years.
00:43:33.000 Or over the rest of your life, for that matter.
00:43:34.000 But, that said,
00:43:37.000 Listen, I have two kids who are under five.
00:43:39.000 Is it rough sometimes?
00:43:40.000 Absolutely.
00:43:40.000 Are they little terrors?
00:43:41.000 A hundred percent.
00:43:43.000 Are we going to have more kids?
00:43:44.000 You bet.
00:43:44.000 Because will it be a little more stressful?
00:43:46.000 Yeah, but I've also heard that peak stress is three, and then four it starts to decline again.
00:43:51.000 Because then you have number one taking care of number four, and you have some helpers around the house.
00:43:56.000 And also you can turn them into your child slaves, basically.
00:43:58.000 And they make cheap shoes for you, and it's really great.
00:44:01.000 So you can go check that out.
00:44:03.000 Free labor and all that.
00:44:05.000 Yes, I think that if you can sustain more kids and it's not going to hurt your relationship, then why not?
00:44:09.000 Children are wonderful and terrible and wonderful at the same time.
00:44:13.000 Should we be investing more into it?
00:44:20.000 Well, I mean, if you're talking about nuclear power plants, then absolutely.
00:44:23.000 Yeah, of course, we should be having more nuclear power plants.
00:44:25.000 The fact that we have, like, two in the state of California, and we have rolling brownouts every single year during the summer, and the government says every year, turn off your air conditioner when it's summer.
00:44:33.000 It's like, did you not get the memo that over the past several billion years, it gets hot in the summer?
00:44:38.000 Did you not get the memo?
00:44:39.000 That's when I need my air conditioning, is during the summer.
00:44:42.000 And you idiots have cut off all the abilities to build nuclear power plants, and instead you're like, oh, well, what if we just have windmills?
00:44:48.000 Yeah, the windmills are gonna do it in the middle of the summer when there's no wind and it's 190 degrees outside, you idiots.
00:44:54.000 Yes, of course nuclear would be a good solution.
00:44:55.000 Listen, most of, I believe most of France's energy is based on nuclear power, which is significantly cleaner than any other form of power that can provide mass amounts of electricity.
00:45:05.000 Cadence says, hey Ben,
00:45:06.000 How can conservatives respond when liberals quote that this land is stolen from Native Americans as a response to illegals coming into the United States?
00:45:12.000 They use this to justify open borders.
00:45:14.000 Well, there are a couple of responses to this.
00:45:15.000 First of all, the history of the world is movement of populations.
00:45:21.000 The truth is that Native American tribes
00:45:23.000 Move routinely and took over each other's lens and made war with one another.
00:45:28.000 It is also true that there was no sovereign state in the United States when settlers arrived.
00:45:32.000 It wasn't like there was a sovereign nation that had claimed actual territorial ownership over particular areas as far as I'm aware.
00:45:39.000 And so was the treatment of Native Americans decent?
00:45:41.000 Absolutely not.
00:45:43.000 But can you say that the United States quote unquote stole the land?
00:45:46.000 In rare cases, I think you probably can.
00:45:48.000 But in most cases, I think the answer is no.
00:45:50.000 There's a lot of unoccupied land out there.
00:45:52.000 And I also do hold by the Lockean theory of property that property ownership is largely based on your ability to cultivate the land, which is why I believe in a legal thing called adverse possession, which is basically if you own 200 acres and you're not doing anything with it ever, you don't ever visit it, you don't do anything with it.
00:46:06.000 And I go out there and I set up a farm on your land.
00:46:08.000 And 20 years later, you come by and you say, why do you have a farm on my land?
00:46:11.000 I say, well, right, it's my farm.
00:46:13.000 The law basically says, under English common law, that's my land now.
00:46:15.000 I cultivated it.
00:46:16.000 So I think there is benefit to cultivation of land.
00:46:19.000 Any advice?
00:46:19.000 Yes.
00:46:19.000 Sack up.
00:46:26.000 Yes, marry her and sack up.
00:46:28.000 That's my advice.
00:46:29.000 You've been living with your girlfriend.
00:46:31.000 It turns out, when you have sex with people, of the opposite sex particularly, and specifically, then there is a serious possibility that pregnancy may be the result, because this has been true throughout all of human and animal history.
00:46:43.000 So, I'm glad that you're having fun, but now I think that it's quite important that you provide a home to that child.
00:46:49.000 Be a man.
00:46:50.000 This is your job on planet Earth.
00:46:53.000 Your job on planet Earth is now to marry your girlfriend and take care of your child.
00:46:56.000 And if you feel that you couldn't be responsible for that, that's a decision you should have made before.
00:47:00.000 But now, responsibility has been thrust upon you.
00:47:03.000 And you can either be a man, or it can be a child.
00:47:05.000 If you decide to be a child and either abandon the kid, or you decide to do something much, much morally worse, and...
00:47:12.000 Do something or convince your girlfriend or discuss with your girlfriend doing something to the baby itself, which is an act of not only ultimate irresponsibility, but deep evil.
00:47:19.000 If you do that, you've betrayed your purpose on the planet.
00:47:24.000 You've betrayed my purpose on this planet.
00:47:27.000 Everything else gone, right?
00:47:28.000 I lose the show.
00:47:29.000 I lose my career.
00:47:30.000 My sole purpose on this planet is to protect my wife and children.
00:47:34.000 That is my sole purpose.
00:47:35.000 So now, you have a situation you didn't want.
00:47:37.000 Guess what?
00:47:38.000 That situation is going to be the best thing that ever happened to you, too.
00:47:40.000 It's going to be the best thing that ever happened to you.
00:47:42.000 You're now going to become a more responsible human being.
00:47:44.000 You're going to become a better human being.
00:47:46.000 That kid is going to make you better because you're not going to be thinking about you anymore.
00:47:48.000 You're going to be thinking about, how do I protect my daughter or my son?
00:47:51.000 You're gonna be thinking about what standards and values do I need to make solid in this world to make a better world for my kids.
00:47:57.000 You're gonna now need to sit there and think about what kind of, what kind of child you want to raise.
00:48:01.000 You're gonna have to start thinking about something beyond the next 24 hours.
00:48:04.000 You're gonna have to start planning.
00:48:07.000 You're going to have to start making career goals, right?
00:48:10.000 You're going to become a man now.
00:48:11.000 Okay, kid?
00:48:13.000 This is the way that it works.
00:48:15.000 You're a man now.
00:48:16.000 Be a man.
00:48:17.000 This is your job.
00:48:18.000 Okay, one more question.
00:48:20.000 Michael says, Are you a coffee drinker?
00:48:22.000 If not, what is your go-to beverage?
00:48:24.000 So, I was not a coffee drinker until the last two weeks.
00:48:27.000 You may have noticed that I'm a little more hyper-unusual on the show.
00:48:30.000 That is because I've started drinking coffee.
00:48:32.000 There are two reasons for that.
00:48:34.000 One is, when I get up at 4.30 in the morning for Fox & Friends, man, I need a shot of coffee.
00:48:38.000 I mean, like, I didn't think I did.
00:48:40.000 And then I did.
00:48:41.000 And also, I wasn't getting enough sleep.
00:48:42.000 And one day, I had a cup of coffee before the show, and I pumped out that show, man.
00:48:46.000 I mean, it was great.
00:48:47.000 Everybody's like, that was a great show.
00:48:48.000 And I was like, good!
00:48:50.000 If coffee's good, like Black Rifle coffee, if that stuff's good,
00:48:53.000 Try some Coke.
00:48:55.000 But I thought, OK, well, I'm not going to do cocaine.
00:48:58.000 Not Coca-Cola.
00:48:59.000 I'm not going to do cocaine.
00:49:00.000 And I'm not going to do Coca-Cola, which is unhealthy.
00:49:02.000 Instead, I will do coffee, which is only slightly unhealthy.
00:49:06.000 And then I went out and I made the mistake of buying an Amazon Prime Day.
00:49:10.000 I gave myself the gift of an Escafe machine.
00:49:14.000 And I've been having coffee ever since.
00:49:16.000 It's probably not the best thing for me, but I've lost some weight.
00:49:20.000 There's that.
00:49:21.000 You know, one more question because I can't end on that one.
00:49:23.000 Gregory says, Hey Ben, I listen to your podcast every day along the likes of Bill Burr and Joe Rogan.
00:49:28.000 I'm a huge comedy fan.
00:49:29.000 I've learned to laugh at jokes thrown from both sides of the ideological spectrum.
00:49:32.000 That being said, I do feel like comedy has become a way for certain people to become motivational or inspirational icons without the repercussions that political commentators face.
00:49:39.000 What is the future for comedy in this country?
00:49:41.000 Do you have any particular favorite comedians?
00:49:43.000 Well, the future of comedy is dark and dismal because everybody is now made a virtue out of being offended.
00:49:50.000 Comedy is all about violating taboos.
00:49:52.000 If you're going to be offended when taboos get violated, you're not going to be able to laugh at things and it means that we're going to destroy anybody who tells a joke, even a bad joke.
00:49:58.000 Comedians are not going to hit 100% of the time.
00:50:01.000 They're going to violate all your taboos and sometimes it'll be funny and sometimes it won't.
00:50:05.000 But that's okay.
00:50:06.000 That's how comedy gets done.
00:50:08.000 Some of my favorite comedians, so I think that Mulaney is terrific.
00:50:12.000 His work, if you go watch his Netflix special, it's really, really good.
00:50:16.000 He's really a talented guy.
00:50:17.000 Until Louis C.K.'
00:50:18.000 's unfortunate fall, Louis C.K.
00:50:20.000 was definitely one of my favorites.
00:50:22.000 His bit on, whenever he talked, here's the thing about Louis C.K.
00:50:26.000 It's not even because I'm offended.
00:50:27.000 It's just because I like good comedy.
00:50:29.000 Blue comedy is the worst kind of comedy.
00:50:31.000 When people tell sex jokes, it's the easiest thing in the world.
00:50:33.000 When they curse, and that's the laugh line because it's shocking, that's really easy stuff.
00:50:39.000 Louis C.K.'
00:50:39.000 's bits on kids are just, they're spectacularly good.
00:50:43.000 He has a couple of bits on kids that are really, really funny.
00:50:46.000 One of them is my favorite bit on kids ever about his daughter asking him particular questions and the tendency of children to ask why until you basically die.
00:50:57.000 I mean, honestly, I think that he was rather honest about the fact that he was sleaze, right?
00:51:03.000 I mean, it wasn't like he was trying to hide the ball on that one in any sense.
00:51:07.000 But the fact is that, yeah, I think that Mulaney, Louis C.K., those are two good ones.
00:51:13.000 It's until until Bill Cosby turned out to be a horrible multiple serial rapist.
00:51:17.000 Allegedly, I think that a lot of his old comedy was was actually quite good.
00:51:21.000 I grew up listening to some of Bill Cosby's old CDs.
00:51:24.000 All right.
00:51:24.000 Time for a thing I like and then a thing that I hate.
00:51:27.000 And we'll get out of here.
00:51:28.000 So things that I like.
00:51:28.000 We'll finish up Jazz Week.
00:51:30.000 I know I know some of you meet that with great relief, but we're finishing up Jazz Week this week.
00:51:35.000 This is from an album called Crystal Silence with Chick Corea and Gary Burton.
00:51:38.000 Chick Corea is on piano.
00:51:39.000 Gary Burton is on vibes.
00:51:40.000 And this is a cut called Senior Mouse.
00:51:53.000 All right, well, if you want more good jazz, you know what I should have done?
00:51:56.000 I should have actually pulled a cut of my dad playing jazz, because my dad's really good.
00:51:59.000 We'll do it next week.
00:52:00.000 Somebody remind me.
00:52:00.000 And next week, I'll pull a cut of my dad playing jazz, because my dad's really, really good.
00:52:05.000 And we'll play that next week.
00:52:06.000 OK, time for a quick thing that I hate.
00:52:12.000 There's two quick things that I hate.
00:52:14.000 I hate cultural literacy.
00:52:16.000 And apparently it is rife at this office.
00:52:18.000 So I'm just going to mention the fact.
00:52:19.000 I'm just going to rant for just a second.
00:52:21.000 So this morning, Jess, who we all love and adore.
00:52:24.000 She's the makeup gal over here, the makeup and wardrobe gal over here.
00:52:27.000 She explained to me that she has never seen Star Wars episodes 4, 5, and 6.
00:52:32.000 Which is absolute cultural illiteracy.
00:52:34.000 I mean, that is just, that's like you can't read English.
00:52:37.000 I said to her, are you American?
00:52:39.000 Are you a real American?
00:52:41.000 How can you never have seen Star Wars?
00:52:42.000 That is just, that is, and she says, well, you know, I've never even seen the, I've never even seen the Godfather.
00:52:48.000 And I was like, what?
00:52:49.000 What now?
00:52:50.000 Like, you're making it worse.
00:52:51.000 Why are you still talking, Jess?
00:52:52.000 Why are you doing this?
00:52:53.000 You're making it worse.
00:52:54.000 And then she says, you know, I was one to the other movie that I've never really made all the way through is The Ring.
00:52:58.000 And I was like, well, who cares?
00:52:59.000 That's not a big deal.
00:53:00.000 She said, oh, no, I mean Lord of the Rings.
00:53:02.000 What?
00:53:03.000 Why?
00:53:04.000 What?
00:53:04.000 And then I was walking through the halls of the office.
00:53:07.000 There's certain moments in life where you feel like you've gotten old.
00:53:10.000 I was walking through the halls of the office, and I was trying to explain to people my outrage that Jess had never seen the Godfather.
00:53:16.000 And then Senya informed me she had never seen the Godfather.
00:53:19.000 And then Alicia Krauss informed me she had never seen the Godfather.
00:53:21.000 And then half the office informed me, Colton, have you seen the Godfather?
00:53:25.000 Colton says he has never seen the Godfather.
00:53:29.000 This is the collapse of Western civilization.
00:53:31.000 What is wrong with you people?
00:53:33.000 Like, really?
00:53:35.000 You've all seen the latest Infinity War.
00:53:37.000 Ooh.
00:53:39.000 Y'all went and saw Avatar.
00:53:40.000 Okay, jerks.
00:53:43.000 Yeah, I see you thumbs-upping over Avatar.
00:53:45.000 You've all seen the latest Taylor Swift music video.
00:53:48.000 Go watch some actual quality material.
00:53:51.000 I haven't seen the Godfather.
00:53:52.000 I said, what are y'all, 15?
00:53:54.000 And everybody got very offended.
00:53:55.000 Ooh, how dare you call us 15?
00:53:58.000 You're right.
00:53:58.000 I overestimated.
00:53:59.000 You're all children.
00:54:00.000 You're all small children.
00:54:01.000 I've already shown my four and a half year old Godfather one, two, and three.
00:54:05.000 Not true.
00:54:06.000 But when she's five.
00:54:08.000 OK, so finally, other thing that I hate today, on a more serious note, Iran has now threatened to send terrorists to the United States.
00:54:15.000 So this is just great.
00:54:16.000 Major General Qasem Soleimani, who's a really nice guy, has claimed that if the U.S.
00:54:19.000 starts a war, Iran will finish it.
00:54:21.000 Well, they will finish it by being a pile of glass if they start a war with us.
00:54:24.000 I mean, come on.
00:54:24.000 He said, as a soldier, it is my duty to respond to Trump's threats.
00:54:27.000 If he wants to use the language of threat, he should talk to me, not to President Hassan Rouhani.
00:54:31.000 Which is weird, since I thought that Rouhani was supposedly the leader of your
00:54:47.000 What could you have done against Iran in the past 20 years you haven't done already?
00:54:49.000 Well, we could have launched missiles to decapitate your entire regime.
00:54:53.000 We've been nice enough not to do that.
00:54:55.000 Turns out the U.S.
00:54:56.000 is really good.
00:54:57.000 We're really good at breaking stuff.
00:54:59.000 I mean, when we want to break stuff here in the United States, we break stuff in the United States.
00:55:04.000 For all the talk about the Afghanistan war and how it's dragged on forever and the Iraq war and how that was dragging on,
00:55:11.000 Saddam Hussein had the third-largest army on Earth.
00:55:13.000 In three weeks, we reduced him to hiding in a spider hole.
00:55:17.000 In Afghanistan, we had troops that had overrun the country within legitimately three weeks of having invaded the country.
00:55:24.000 The United States military is the most powerful force on Earth by a factor of about 10.
00:55:30.000 When people say that China could go to war with us, ah-ha-ha-ha-ha.
00:55:32.000 Ah-ha-ha-ha-ha.
00:55:35.000 Untrue.
00:55:35.000 So when you see the Iranians saying things like, we will defeat you in war,
00:55:40.000 We're not talking the card game, folks.
00:55:43.000 Legitimately, you think you can defeat the United States military in war?
00:55:47.000 Yeah, try that one.
00:55:48.000 Try that one.
00:55:49.000 If we wanted, we could blow up the moon.
00:55:51.000 Like, come on.
00:55:51.000 This is just nonsense.
00:55:53.000 And then he says, Trump should know we are a nation of martyrdom and that we await him.
00:55:56.000 If you guys launch a war against us, I mean, legitimately, you launch a war against the United States, then you will be a nation of martyrdom.
00:56:02.000 That can be a lie.
00:56:04.000 And he says,
00:56:05.000 He says that they will hit back with terrorism.
00:56:07.000 Now, here's the part that I love about this.
00:56:09.000 This was the regime that was supposedly moderate, remember?
00:56:11.000 This was the moderate Hassan Rouhani regime that we were supposed to hand billions of dollars in cash to, according to Barack Obama.
00:56:16.000 But they're not seeming so moderate.
00:56:18.000 Now, there are people who are like, well, that's because you ended the sanctions.
00:56:21.000 Let me ask you a question.
00:56:22.000 If you were a criminal who was seeking to invade my home, and I said to you, you know what?
00:56:27.000 I'm not going to let you invade my home.
00:56:28.000 And in fact, I'm going to call the cops on you.
00:56:30.000 And you said, that's terrible.
00:56:31.000 How dare you?
00:56:32.000 How dare you, sir?
00:56:33.000 I promise I will not invade your home if you don't call the cops.
00:56:35.000 And I say, you know what?
00:56:36.000 All right.
00:56:37.000 I feel like you're trying to moderate.
00:56:39.000 I'm not going to call the cops.
00:56:39.000 And then you say, you know what?
00:56:40.000 I'm going to invade your home.
00:56:43.000 Why would I possibly have thought that you were legitimate and sincere when you said you weren't going to invade my home?
00:56:48.000 If the Iranians want to be part of the family of nations, you know what they have to do?
00:56:51.000 Stop being a terrorist regime.
00:56:53.000 They can do it any time they please.
00:56:55.000 It isn't hard.
00:56:56.000 There are lots of regimes that do it.
00:56:57.000 But, you know, they've decided this is what they want to be.
00:56:59.000 And it just shows how much of a liar Barack Obama was when it came to policies like the Iranian policy.
00:57:04.000 OK, we'll be back here next week with all of the latest news.
00:57:07.000 And I hope I live till then.
00:57:09.000 I don't have a heart attack thanks to the ignorance of my own staff about basic cultural features of the United States.
00:57:14.000 We'll find out.
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