Joe Biden wants to negotiate drug prices with the government, and he's got a list of 10 drugs that could be subject to Medicare price negotiations. What's the catch? They're not going to cost less than $50,000 a year, and they're all made by Big Pharma. Is this a good deal or a bad deal? Alex Blumberg explains what's going to happen if the government does negotiate with Big Pharma about drug prices, and why it would be a bad idea. Plus, a look at the impact of the Biden administration's new drug pricing plan, and how it could affect the price of prescription drugs in the United States and around the world. And, of course, there's a bonus segment at the end of the episode about how the government is going to pay for all of this with a $2,000 cap on how much members of the Medicare program can spend on prescription drugs starting in 2025. Thanks to our sponsor, Unilever, for sponsoring this special bonus episode. Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus Whitehead. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. We'd like to learn more about you, the listeners. Please take a few minutes to fill out this brief survey. Send us your thoughts and suggestions on topics you d like to hear us talk about in the comments section below. Thanks for listening, and we'll get back to you next week with a new episode on the next episode of HAPPY BONUS EPISODE! Subscribe to our newschedules! Subscribe, rate, review, and subscribe to our newest podcast, and leave us a review of your thoughts on the latest episode of The HAPPINESS! on Apple Podcasts! and other podcasting services! Thank you for listening to our latest episode and share it with your fellow podcast listeners! in iTunes! Timestamps: 5 stars! 6 stars 7 stars 8 stars 9 stars 10 stars 11 stars 13 stars 12 stars 15 stars 16 stars 17 stars 18 stars 19 stars 21 stars 17 thumbs up 18 thumbs up? 19 thumbs up! 19 20 stars 22 stars 25 stars 27 stars 26 stars 23 stars 24 stars 20 21 27 24 26 23
00:00:01.000There is no such thing as a free lunch.
00:00:04.000Well, apparently there are a lot of people out there who believe there is such a thing as free medicine.
00:00:08.000And the way that they are basically making the case is that Big Pharma in the United States makes a lot of money.
00:00:13.000Now, there are a lot of problems with Big Pharma, for sure.
00:00:16.000There are drugs that are really not great for people that are marketed as though they are amazing for people.
00:00:21.000The most obvious example being Oxycontin.
00:00:23.000But it is also true that every single drug you take was developed by Big Pharma.
00:00:27.000Every single medicine you take was developed by Big Pharma.
00:00:30.000So if Big Pharma is responsible for OxyContin, they're also responsible for Advil.
00:00:33.000If Big Pharma is responsible for the mRNA vaccine that you didn't want to take, Big Pharma is also responsible for all of the chemotherapy medications that your mother is taking.
00:00:42.000So Big Pharma is responsible for all of those things.
00:00:45.000And the medical advances in the United States have led to a tremendous Expansion of life expectancy in the United States, the five-year cancer survival rate in the United States is much higher than anywhere else on earth.
00:00:57.000The reason being, we have better medicines than anywhere else on earth.
00:01:00.000It also happens to be that we develop a huge number of medical patents right here in the United States.
00:01:05.000Well, the reason for that is because the United States, when it comes to drug pricing, is maybe the last country on earth that actively allows patients and doctors to buy drugs at the price that pharma is selling the drugs at, as opposed to using the government To cram down particular pricing.
00:01:20.000Now, this has been a bugaboo for a lot of politicians, because they look at Canada, or they look at Germany, or they look at Europe, or any place else on earth, and they say, well, they're buying those American drugs for far less than we are paying for those American drugs.
00:01:32.000This is what led, yesterday, the Biden administration to, through the Inflation Reduction Act, that had nothing to do with inflation reduction at all, it turns out that pretty much the entire thing was about giving away money for green boondoggles, and also apparently screwing up the drug markets, Yesterday, the U.S.
00:01:49.000government named 10 drugs that will be subject to the first-ever price negotiations by Medicare, taking aim at some of the most widely used and costliest medicines in the country.
00:01:56.000According to the Wall Street Journal, at stake is arguably the government's strongest effort to date to tackle high drug costs if drug makers can't persuade courts to scuttle the negotiating powers that Medicare was granted last year.
00:02:06.000On the list of targeted medicines announced by the Biden administration Tuesday are treatments for cancer, diabetes, and heart disease that can cost tens of thousands of dollars a year or more, including the blood thinner Eliquis and diabetes treatment Jardians.
00:02:17.000Medicare spent $50.5 billion on those drugs last year, according to JPMorgan Chase.
00:02:23.000The 10 drugs include many drugs fighting diabetes.
00:02:26.000There's an arthritis drug from Amgen called Enbrel, it's on the list.
00:02:29.000There's a psoriasis drug from Johnson & Johnson.
00:02:33.000Stacey Duzina, a health policy professor at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine,
00:02:37.000said this is a major step toward reducing drug spending.
00:02:40.000And of course, Joe Biden is very excited about all of this. He says we pay way more for prescription
00:02:45.000drugs than any other economy on the world, in the world. And here he was yesterday
00:02:50.000explaining that if it's sold in Chicago, you are paying more money than if you are buying
00:03:10.000But the reason that that's true is because basically the United States has allowed a bunch of other countries to free ride off the prices that Americans are paying.
00:03:19.000So, what exactly would the downstream effects of this be?
00:03:22.000Well, according to the Wall Street Journal, the positive downstream effects would be lower prices.
00:03:52.000There's only one problem, which is that medical innovation in the United States is about to crater.
00:03:56.000And when the government can cram down pricing in any particular area and remove the profit margin from the actual pricing mechanism, that means people are not going to invest the kinds of money that are necessary in order to create the drugs in the first place.
00:04:09.000In the same way that rent control decreases people building and constructing, because why would you build a new apartment knowing there's no profit in it?
00:04:16.000The investment in the biotech sphere is going to utterly dry up if the government via Medicare continues to cram down policies like this one.
00:04:24.000By the way, the policy itself is absolutely wild.
00:04:27.000I mean, the way that they are cramming this thing down is that they go to the companies, that Medicare goes to the companies that produce the drugs, and then they tell them that they are now going to be subjected to this sort of arbitrary choice where they pick your drug out of the lineup and they say, from now on, we are going to cram down a price on you.
00:04:50.000The CMS can only select drugs that have been on the market for a certain period of time.
00:04:54.000For instance, a small molecule drug, a product in pill form like aspirin, must have been on the market for 9 years or more to be negotiation eligible.
00:04:59.000A biologic drug, a vaccine or a gene therapy, must have been marketed for 13 years or more for eligibility.
00:05:06.000There are a couple of exemptions that drug makers can use.
00:05:09.000They can say that they're small biotechs and they manufacture like one drug or biologic drugs that have a high likelihood of getting biosimilar competition within a couple of years on the list.
00:05:16.000There's no reason to cram down the price.
00:05:17.000There's going to be somebody who develops a generic, but this is the start of the negotiation process.
00:05:22.000Basically, they are notified by Medicare that they are now subject to a price cram down and they have to decide then whether to enter into talks.
00:05:30.000If they choose not to, they would then face an excise tax scaling up to 95%.
00:05:36.00095% so they they would still be able to sell their drug to medicare but medicare would then claw back via the power of the federal government 95% 95% of any income from that drug or they would have to leave medicare or medicaid altogether which by the way doesn't help patients on medicare or medicaid a whole hell of a lot Assuming drug companies then enter into the talks, the final negotiated rate on the first set of drugs applies to the pharmacy counter starting January 1st, 2026.
00:06:02.000So, what is the downstream effect of all of this?
00:06:05.000Well, here is the thing that people are not seeing.
00:06:07.000To develop a drug, yes, you're looking at the drug, you see it come across the counter, you're like, whoa, look at the sticker shock on that thing.
00:06:13.000That is, and it doesn't cost nearly that much to produce the drug.
00:06:16.000The amount of money that is put in R&D on drugs is insane.
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00:07:45.000Okay, so in order to understand why the government can't just simply name prices for drugs and then magically the price comes down, you have to see the downstream effect.
00:07:54.000The prices on those drugs will indeed come down.
00:07:57.000It's the drugs that will never be developed that are the unintended consequences.
00:08:00.000So, in 2019 alone, the pharmaceutical industry spent $83 billion in 2019.
00:08:06.000$83 billion on R&D, research and development.
00:08:08.000According to one 2020 study, which covered 632 new therapeutic drugs and biologic agents approved by the FDA, the estimated median capitalized research and development cost per product was $985 million, counting expenditures on failed trials.
00:08:22.000But you should count because the vast majority of drugs that are originally developed never make it to market.
00:08:28.000Somewhere between 85 and 90% of all drugs that enter phase one testing never make it through FDA approval process.
00:09:26.000It used to be, in the 1970s, that a huge percentage of drugs were actually developed in Europe.
00:09:30.000Today, a huge percentage of drugs are developed in the United States.
00:09:33.000According to one 2010 study, the United States accounted for 42% of prescription drug spending and 40% of total GDP among innovator countries, and was responsible for 43.7% of what are called NMEs, new molecular entities.
00:09:47.000According to the BLS, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the pharmaceutical and medicine manufacturing industry is responsible for about 332,000 jobs in the United States.
00:09:56.000And it's a big business because there's actual freedom of pricing in the United States.
00:09:59.000So what exactly would happen if Medicare gets away with cramming down this pricing structure?
00:10:05.000According to National Review's Jeff Zimera, drug development would drop off.
00:10:08.000And that's not according to him, it's according to the CBO.
00:10:10.000The Congressional Budget Office has predicted the scheme provided for under the Inflation Reduction Act would lead to a manufactured revenue loss of 15%.
00:10:18.000Such a cut in CBO's predicted 45 new drugs per year would suggest around 7 fewer drugs per year.
00:10:24.000That means 121 drugs lost over an 18-year time horizon, as one report estimated.
00:10:29.000So which drugs would be most likely to disappear?
00:10:31.000The drugs most likely to disappear would actually be the ones that are for rare conditions, right?
00:10:34.000The ones that have less of a profit margin to begin with.
00:10:38.000So you can forget about drugs being developed for the rare condition that your mother just got diagnosed with.
00:10:42.000Those are just not going to be in the market anymore because who the hell is going to develop them if there's no money on the other end?
00:10:49.000There's another solution to this, by the way.
00:10:51.000That solution would be to aggressively make other countries pay their fair share when it comes to American medication.
00:10:56.000We could use every lever at our disposal in order to do that.
00:10:59.000This is where a trade war would actually be somewhat useful.
00:11:02.000Saying to Canada, or saying to the National Health Service, you guys are going to pay American companies what we here in the United States pay.
00:11:10.000And we're going to use the levers at our disposal in order to make that happen?
00:11:15.000Because right now, basically, America is subsidizing the rest of the world when it comes to drug creation.
00:11:19.000But the solution to that isn't for American government to then cram down a pricing mechanism on the big pharma companies and the drug companies and the medicine companies.
00:11:27.000When you do that, you just get rid of all the innovation.
00:11:31.000Imagine, for a second, if the United States and any other industry decided that we were just going to ratchet down cost, supposedly government cost, on any other area of American life.
00:11:41.000Take the tech sector, or take the financial sector.
00:11:43.000We're just going to ratchet up taxation.
00:11:45.000And we're going to do so in order to lower, supposedly, the cost to the American taxpayer.
00:11:49.000We're just going to tax that particular sector.
00:12:18.000Therefore, I will use government to cram down a new price on that drug.
00:12:22.000Sure, it means that a bunch of drugs aren't going to participate in Medicare.
00:12:25.000You're still gonna have to get them over the counter.
00:12:26.000Sure, it means that you're going to lose the innovation by these companies or have them base themselves somewhere else.
00:12:33.000But at least you'll feel good about having supposedly brought down the cost.
00:12:36.000By the way, like Democrats care about the cost of Medicare.
00:12:39.000Since when have Democrats cared about the cost of Medicare?
00:12:41.000They won't even restructure Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, which represent 66% of the American mandatory budget every year.
00:12:47.000Anytime anybody mentions, maybe we should restructure those programs in order to lower the costs, they're like, no, no, no, we can't touch it.
00:12:54.000Apparently the only way to touch it is to confiscate money and innovation from the private sector.
00:13:00.000We'll get to another genius idea that's going under the radar and is being crammed down by the Biden administration via the National Labor Relations Board in just one second.
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00:14:11.000Okay, so the other big move the Biden administration has made over the course of the last week is going completely unnoticed, and it's going to utterly wreck a huge number of industries.
00:14:54.000We abide by all available laws and regulations here at Daily Wire.
00:14:56.000Okay, so, with all of that said, I'm gonna keep saying it over and over because the fascistic NLRB, literally, if you make a joke, they literally will launch an investigation into you, requiring you to obtain a lawyer to explain what a joke is.
00:15:09.000This is a thing that didn't just happen to me, it also happened to Ben Dominich over at The Federalist, it's happened to a bunch of people.
00:15:13.000So, these dolts over at the NLRB, or union-based socialists, they have decided, they've now issued a decision in a case called CEMEX Construction Materials Pacific.
00:15:26.000They announced a new framework for determining when employers are required to bargain with unions without a representation election.
00:15:32.000So normally, you'd have to have a representation election, right?
00:15:35.000You have your entire base of your employees vote on whether to form a union or not.
00:15:41.000I think the National Labor Relations Act is ridiculous on its face.
00:15:44.000If employees wish to unionize, then by all means, go ahead and unionize.
00:15:49.000But that means that you have to get all the employees to be part of the union, not by voting a majority, but by getting them to actually join the union.
00:15:55.000If I don't wish to join the union, I wish to independently negotiate my salary with the employer, that should be my prerogative in a free country.
00:16:01.000I shouldn't be forced to join a union just because a majority of my employees, of my fellow employees, wish to join a union.
00:16:08.000What if I'm better at my job than they are?
00:16:11.000What if I'm willing to work for less because I need the money?
00:16:13.000There are a bunch of reasons why you might not want to join a union, which is presumably why union membership in the United States has dropped to a small fraction of what it once was.
00:16:21.000Union membership in the private sector in the United States is now, what, 7%?
00:16:25.000It's because unions weren't doing their jobs.
00:16:27.000They were just bankrupting the companies that they were siphoning money away from.
00:16:30.000In any case, many of these unions They would have a representation election.
00:16:38.000The National Labor Relations Act posited that if a majority of members of your employee base vote to form a union, you then, by law, must negotiate with the union.
00:16:51.000You should be able to say, I don't wish to negotiate with the union, and I'm sorry if I lose those employees, but there are other employees out there.
00:16:56.000But that's not what the National Labor Relations Act says.
00:16:58.000We abide by all laws and regulations here at The Daily Wear.
00:17:04.000At least, they used to have to hold an election.
00:17:07.000They used to have to actually have an election.
00:17:08.000Now, the National Labor Relations Board is saying the opposite.
00:17:12.000They say, the new framework will both effectuate employees' right to bargain through representatives of their own choosing and improve the fairness and integrity of board-conducted elections.
00:17:20.000Under the new framework, When a union requests recognition on the basis that a majority of employees in an appropriate bargaining unit have designated the union as the representative, an employer must either recognize and bargain with the union or promptly file a petition seeking election.
00:18:16.000One, they can either accept the union as fully formed and negotiate with it, or they can petition seeking an election.
00:18:23.000However, If an employer who seeks an election commits any unfair labor practice that would require setting aside the election, the petition will be dismissed, and rather than rerunning the election, the board will order the employer to recognize and bargain with the union.
00:18:37.000This means, let's say that you find out, for example, that somebody has actually been pressuring employees inside your company to sign a petition, and they didn't want to, and so you fired them for interference with your labor force.
00:18:48.000The NLRB could come in the back door and they could say, ah, you weren't allowed to fire that person.
00:18:51.000And now you are automatically forced to bargain with the union.
00:18:54.000Automatically forced to bargain with the union.
00:18:59.000This is why the American prospect is extremely excited.
00:19:04.000They say, So a lot of the employers would basically say, let's hold an election, but let's wait a month so we can actually, you know, poll people and give them some material as to the cost of implementing a union here.
00:19:11.000Now the board's like, no, gotta hold the election right away.
00:19:14.000curtailing employees to ability to delay them often indefinitely.
00:19:17.000So a lot of the employers would basically say let's hold an election but
00:19:21.000let's wait a month so we can actually you know poll people and give them some
00:19:24.000material as to the cost of implementing a union here. Now the board's like no,
00:19:28.000gotta hold the election right away. So let's just be clear, no election necessary in the
00:19:31.000first place because you can get people to sign a petition. Two, if they do request
00:19:34.000an election, the election has to be held like now.
00:19:37.000And three, you are not allowed to take any action the NLRB deems irresponsible or bad.
00:19:43.000And if so, they'll just automatically declare the union.
00:19:47.000As the American Prospect, a far-left magazine says, taken together, this one-two punch effectively makes union organizing possible again after decades in which unpunished employer illegality was the most decisive factor in reducing the nation's rate of private sector unionization from roughly 35% to a bare 6%.
00:20:01.000All of this is rude, by the way, in a perverse and stupid version of economic history in which it was unionization in the American workforce that led to American prosperity.
00:20:09.000That is unbased in American economic history.
00:21:29.000There are certainly circumstances in which unions are necessary and good.
00:21:32.000Coal miners unions would be an excellent example.
00:21:34.000Or let's say you have a company town and the company town is effectively an oligarchy.
00:21:40.000And you have to have the ability to unionize in order to change conditions of the company town.
00:21:45.000However, unionization in America's car industry absolutely destroyed the American car industry.
00:21:50.000In the 1950s, because America was the only place capable of actually making cars, we were the only industrialized nation on earth that hadn't been wiped out by World War II.
00:21:58.000We had big profit margins, and the unions organized, and they signed themselves extraordinarily rich contracts.
00:22:03.000And those extraordinarily rich contracts ended up basically bankrupting all those car companies by the 70s.
00:22:09.000This is very often what happens when unions are giving outsized ability to organize.
00:22:13.000This is particularly true in the public sector, by the way.
00:22:15.000You want to talk about the bloated public sector in the United States?
00:22:17.000Private sector unions in some cases are at least understandable.
00:22:23.000Public sector unions are the most corrupt bargain in American politics.
00:22:25.000Essentially what happens is that you have a bunch of union organizers And they negotiate with legislators for some sort of big giveaway deal, including very often the ability for the state to actually take out of people's paycheck union dues and hand it over to the union.
00:22:39.000The union then uses that money to get a bunch of Democrats elected, and then it negotiates with those people to sign more giveaways for themselves.
00:22:46.000It's super duper corrupt, and it's one of the reasons the cost of government has been skyrocketing year on year for literally my entire lifetime and beyond.
00:22:55.000If you think that the combination of this sort of top-down economic control, centralization of control of the American economy by the Biden administration is going to have long-term effects, you're wrong.
00:23:04.000It's going to have wild effects when it comes to the drug industry.
00:23:07.000It's going to have wild effects when it comes to business overall with regards to these new unionization rules.
00:23:13.000And the Biden administration doesn't care.
00:23:15.000They don't understand economics and they don't care about it.
00:23:18.000And they're like small children when it comes to economics.
00:23:22.000Therefore, I will use the power of government to yell about high prices to bring them down.
00:23:26.000Okay, but there are second-order effects of this sort of stuff.
00:23:28.000There are unintended consequences, always.
00:23:31.000These are the kind of idiotic thinkers, truly, who believe that in what they call the broken windows fallacy with regard to economics, that if you throw a rock through a window, you just help the economy because now somebody has to go buy a new pane of glass.
00:23:43.000Neglecting the fact that when you break the window, that shop owner was going to use that money to invest maybe in another employee.
00:23:50.000Maybe that shop owner was going to buy new equipment and now they have to waste their money on another pane of glass.
00:23:55.000This bizarre notion in economics that the only thing you have to focus on is the thing right in front of you as opposed to all of the outsized effects beyond that thing.
00:24:13.000Meanwhile, Joe Biden has to lock down those political allies because the entire American public knows that Joe Biden is unpleasant.
00:24:21.000There's a growing impression that he is corrupt.
00:24:22.000That growing impression should have been launched, you know, at the beginning of his political career because he's been corrupt for literally half a century at this point in American politics.
00:24:32.000But the biggest thing that's sticking to him right now is that the man obviously is no longer with it.
00:24:36.000Yesterday, Kareem Jean-Pierre tried to defend Joe Biden's virility, saying, well, he did go to Ukraine.
00:24:41.000You mean he took a plane and then wandered around there?
00:24:46.000But I'm talking about what Americans see when they turn on the TV, and they see, you know, Joe Biden's been in politics literally since before you were born, and like, he's aged.
00:25:01.000Back when we were marking the one-year anniversary, right, of the war in Ukraine, the unprovoked war by Russia, what did the President do?
00:25:11.000He went to Kyiv, and he was there with the alarms blaring in the back, and people were so impressed that he was able to be there and look strong and represent the American people in Kyiv, in a war zone country.
00:25:30.000I know that she has to do this for a living, but I gotta say, that is pretty weak sauce.
00:25:36.000Even Morning Joe is like, yeah, we're all kind of concerned about his age.
00:25:39.00089% of Republicans say Biden is too old.
00:28:16.000We now have information that the National Archives has some 5,400 Joe Biden emails using fake names to dish government information to hunters and others as Vice President of the United States.
00:28:26.000According to the New York Post, the National Archives and Records Administration has admitted
00:28:29.000it is in possession of nearly 5,400 emails, electronic records and documents,
00:28:33.000potentially showing President Biden using a pseudonym during his vice president,
00:28:36.000vice presidency. NARA confirmed the existence of the trove in response to a June 2022 Freedom
00:28:42.000of Information Act request by the Southeastern Legal Foundation. The request sought emails
00:28:48.000pertaining to the accounts of Robin Ware, Robert L. Peters and J.R.B. Ware. Those are the, by the
00:28:53.000By the way, very, very, I would say, I would say no.
00:29:22.000The only way to preserve governmental integrity is for NARA to release Biden's nearly 5,400 emails to SLF and thus the public.
00:29:29.000They're accusing NARA of having dragged its feet since the FOIA request since June 2022.
00:29:36.000Earlier this month, the House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer demanded that NARA hands over any unredacted records in which Joe Biden used a pseudonym.
00:29:43.000Again, I'm confused as to under what guise NARA is denying access to these emails.
00:30:05.000The stupidest racial controversy of the day is non-racial at all.
00:30:09.000According to foxnews.com, a video circulating on X this week depicted a young elementary school student in Colorado Springs, Colorado being removed from class for having a Gadsden flag patch on his backpack.
00:30:20.000The clip appeared to be recorded by Jaden's mother as she, her son, and a school administrator discussed the boy being pulled from class at the Vanguard School that day because of the patch.
00:30:28.000According to the staffer at the Colorado Charter School, the patch was disruptive to the classroom environment in that it had origins with slavery.
00:30:44.000It was formed as another version of the snake flag, the kind of the join or die flag that
00:30:51.000was actually in play for the colonies since like the 1750s.
00:30:54.000It has nothing to do with slavery whatsoever at all.
00:30:59.000So this 12 year old kid who's campaigning for vice president.
00:31:03.000I love that the school is basically running like a steel dossier oppo on a 12-year-old kid.
00:31:10.000It's strong stuff happening right here.
00:31:12.000Apparently, Jaden's mom disputed the school staff member throughout the meeting, arguing the flag originated during the American Revolution.
00:31:18.000The video opens with Jaden, his mom, and an unnamed school administrator sitting down for a meeting in her office to discuss the child dismissal from class.
00:31:24.000And the staff member explains the reason they don't want the flag is due to the origins of slavery and the slave trade.
00:31:37.000So they're, um, the reason that they do not want the flag, the reason we do not want the flag to slay is due to its origins with slavery and slave trade.
00:31:54.000That is what was, um, that's the reasoning behind them not wanting the flag.
00:33:48.000By the way, this is so petty that even the governor of Colorado, who's a Democrat, Jared Polis, he's like, no, this is not a thing.
00:33:54.000Jared Polis was like, this is ridiculous.
00:33:58.000He shared remarks, he said, I think it's great when kids express themselves in different ways as long as they're not creating a disruptive environment.
00:34:03.000Certainly the Gadsden flag is a great iconic American flag.
00:34:06.000Other kids have LGBT flags, other have flags of major political parties.
00:34:13.000By the way, even comparing the Gadsden flag to the LGBT flag is absurd.
00:34:17.000The Gadsden flag is just a flag that symbolized the United States.
00:34:21.000By the way, we're going to be talking with Jayden a little bit later on in the show during member block.
00:34:25.000So apparently they're doubling down, but not on the Gadsden flag.
00:34:28.000They're allowing him the Gadsden flag, but he has a gun rights patch and that has to go away.
00:34:33.000So apparently, you know, patches that are associated with actual amendments to the United States Constitution, those probably need to go away.
00:34:41.000I have serious questions as to whether the school is banning other similarly political statements.
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00:36:32.000Whether it's changing the definition of words or trying to convince you 2 plus 2 actually equals 5, it sometimes feels like current culture is making you unbelievably stupid.
00:37:24.000It was up at 125 miles an hour in terms of the speed of the wind.
00:37:30.000I mean, catastrophic kind of stuff, obviously.
00:37:33.000The governor of Florida is on top of it, Governor DeSantis.
00:37:37.000He says that they have 1.1 million gallons of fuel that are stored for people.
00:37:41.000We're now up to 1.1 million gallons of fuel that is on standby to be able to mitigate any fuel interruptions, and sometimes you have it, sometimes you don't.
00:37:52.000We'd rather be safe than sorry, so that fuel is there, and that can be deployed as needed if there is an interruption in fuel.
00:38:00.000Also, there are 100,000 Florida households that have already had their power restored as of the morning.
00:38:06.000So, the state of Florida is on top of this thing.
00:38:09.000How you handle a crisis obviously can boost you, both politically, domestically, in terms of your home state, but also in terms of national politics.
00:38:18.000Meanwhile, Speaking of national politics, President Trump has said the quiet part out loud.
00:38:22.000He's now saying that he has opened the idea of Vivek Ramaswamy for Vice President, which is one of the most expected things I have ever heard in my entire life, since Vivek is basically running for Vice President at this point.
00:38:31.000Here he was with Glenn back yesterday.
00:38:33.000Have you thought of Vice President Ramaswamy?
00:39:43.000So MSNBC, everybody's got the early 2003 haircut.
00:39:48.000His haircut looks a lot like mine at the same time in my life.
00:39:51.000And Vivek is asking Al Sharpton about why he should vote for the person with the least experience in the race.
00:39:56.000So I assume Vivek at this time was a Democrat.
00:40:00.000Hello, I'm Vivek, and I want to ask you, last week on the show we had Senator Kerry, and this week, and the week before we had Senator Edwards, and my question for you is, of all the Democratic candidates out there, why should I vote for the one with the least political experience?
00:40:14.000Well, you shouldn't, because I have the most political experience.
00:40:21.000I got involved in the political movement when I was 12 years old, and I've been involved in social policy for the
00:44:20.000According to the Daily Wire, a Canadian father who was thrown in jail after quote-unquote misgendering his gender-confused teenage daughter has now scored a legal win in the British Columbia Court of Appeal.
00:44:28.000A judgment issued earlier this month said Robert Hoogland did not have to spend any more time behind bars.
00:44:32.000The court dropped an order for him to pay a $30,000 fine.
00:44:35.000Hoogland said I expected I would finish, if not all of that six months, a big chunk of it.
00:44:40.000What it does is, it was setting a precedent.
00:44:42.000What they wanted was a real deterrent for parents, especially when they're standing up against trans agenda, with what's being pushed through the schools, by the school counselors, and for all of these different things.
00:44:50.000Hoogland was featured anonymously in the Daily Wire's enormous hit documentary, What is a Woman?
00:44:55.000And he took legal action after a Canadian children's hospital in 2018 told him his daughter, who was 13, was going to be injected with testosterone without his consent.
00:45:05.000In British Columbia, the Infants Act permits minors to consent to their own trans treatments if doctors think it is in their best interest and parents' consent becomes irrelevant.
00:45:12.000The court said the girl could move forward with the testosterone and said Hoogland was barred from publicly misgendering his daughter, so he couldn't even refer to her as his daughter.
00:45:34.000By the way, this is the sort of stuff that if the left had its way, would come to America.
00:45:37.000In California, I'm sure they would pursue something like this.
00:45:41.000The good news is that he won an appeal court and he is now out for the moment.
00:45:45.000Alrighty, coming up, we're going to be speaking with Jaden, the 12-year-old who was kicked out of class in Colorado for wearing a Gadsden flag.
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