The Ben Shapiro Show - July 09, 2020


Vox Tyrannide | Ep. 1048


Episode Stats

Length

56 minutes

Words per Minute

221.79953

Word Count

12,613

Sentence Count

749

Misogynist Sentences

11

Hate Speech Sentences

15


Summary

Ben Shapiro's take on what's going on on the left and the right in America's colleges and universities, and why it's a good time to diversify your portfolio into precious metals. He also discusses the growing influence of radical leftist ideas on America's universities and how they are having a major impact on our nation's political discourse. Ben Shapiro's Daily Mail article on the "Vox" scandal, and the White House's response to it, and how it's affecting the economy, the stock market and the economy's impact on the economy are two of the most important stories of the past week. The Ben Shapiro Show is sponsored by ExpressVPN. Don't let others track what you do, don't let them track you, keep yourself safe at Express VPN. Keep yourself safe on the internet. Protect yourself and your family by using the term "crypto-dividend" or "cryptoconomy" in the Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. Use the promo code: "ELISSA" at checkout to get 10% off your first month of Bitcoin or any other digital good you choose, up to $10,000 in Bitcoin. You can get 20% off the first month with the offer of a Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies, including Bitcoin, if you sign up for a 5-year Bitcoin membership, and get access to all the best Bitcoin and precious metals options, including Gold, Treasuries, Gold, Metals, Copper, Silver, and Silver, at no additional fees, and more! You'll get a FREE 7-day trial offer when you place an order of $100 or more than $150 in Bitcoin or $200 in Bitcoin and $300 in Bitcoin, plus I'll get $5,000 off of $5 or more in total value, and I'll send you 5-day shipping, plus 3 other options, plus an additional $5 gets you an additional 3 months of a maximum of $50 or $50 in 3 months, and you'll get an ad-free 7 days of free of course, I'll receive $5 of Bitcoin and 2 other options. FREE 7GBs and 2GBs, and 5GBs of RMSMSRP, plus 2 Audible membership when you get an epsiode of your first week of the show is available for 4 months of the offer starts in two months, plus they get 7 months of my review of The Right Side of History, and they get a discount on my review begins in two weeks of my book "The Right Side Of History."


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00:00:00.000 All hell breaks loose at Vox when the boss unleashes hell on a top staffer, racial issues continue to rile the nation, and nasty debate breaks out over reopening schools.
00:00:08.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
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00:00:23.000 We're going to get to all the news in just one moment.
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00:01:48.000 Alright, so, all hell has broken loose over there on the left.
00:01:52.000 On the left, there is this internecine war that is now going on between old-school liberals and the hard left.
00:01:58.000 And you've seen hints of this before.
00:02:00.000 Nancy Pelosi was going at it with the squad.
00:02:02.000 You've seen hints of it at places like Evergreen State College, where Brett Weinstein, who's a socialist, I mean, an actual member of the political left, and was basically cast out of the college and was threatened with physical violence for deciding to teach in spite of a call for him not to teach because of his race.
00:02:18.000 And there have been sort of hints at it here and there.
00:02:21.000 But now it is broken into full-scale warfare, particularly inside the nation's institutions that are not universities.
00:02:26.000 I think it's important to note this stuff has been happening on universities for a very long time, right?
00:02:30.000 People like Nicholas Christakis over at Yale being ousted from the campus for the great sin of having said people wear Halloween costumes sometimes.
00:02:36.000 You've seen college campuses trying to ban speech from people ranging from me to Heather MacDonald to Charles Murray to like everybody.
00:02:43.000 On the right or anywhere near the right has been basically canceled from at least one campus or been threatened with violence for appearing at a campus.
00:02:50.000 And this sort of stuff happens all the time.
00:02:52.000 But the liberals in the media particularly, they didn't want to believe this was coming for them.
00:02:57.000 They wanted to believe that this was only aimed at the right.
00:03:00.000 And so the way they shied away from this is by saying a couple things.
00:03:02.000 One, this is just Enthusiasm on college campuses.
00:03:06.000 It's just too enthusiastic, right?
00:03:07.000 I mean, these are people, they're young, they make mistakes, but we need their enthusiasm to really drive the movement forward.
00:03:13.000 We need to channel that enthusiasm, and as they grow, and as they mature, and as they enter the real world, some of those rough edges will be sort of sanded off, but we certainly don't want to denounce their behavior right now, and we certainly don't want to magnify it or pretend that it's outsized or means anything.
00:03:26.000 It doesn't mean anything.
00:03:27.000 And the right is constantly pouncing on college campuses and using college campuses as a sort of example of how radical we are.
00:03:33.000 But come on, guys, those are just college campuses.
00:03:35.000 At the same time, the people who are doing this stuff, they're good hearted.
00:03:38.000 And so can we really blame them?
00:03:39.000 So that was one angle that was being used, right, was that these are college campuses.
00:03:44.000 And so that's nothing like how the real world is going to work.
00:03:47.000 And the second angle that was being used is these are enthusiastic people who are going to become our people now.
00:03:52.000 As you may have noticed from the last few years in politics, as soon as you say to the most radical element of your membership that you need their passion, they immediately take over the entire party, right?
00:04:01.000 That is the way that it works.
00:04:02.000 As soon as you say to a group of people who are sort of on the fringe that you need their passion to drive us forward, they take over the party.
00:04:08.000 You've seen this with Bernie Sanders inside the Democratic Party.
00:04:10.000 You could certainly say that this happened inside the Republican Party in 2016 with President Trump, is that there was this very disaffected group of populists who basically A lot of people, you could see this with all the other presidential campaigns, the other presidential campaigns did not want to hit Trump directly because they were saying, well, eventually Trump will fall away and we'll need the support of these people and their passion really means something.
00:04:29.000 So Trump just takes over the party, right?
00:04:32.000 The same, this sort of stuff happens in political movements all the time.
00:04:34.000 Well, now it turns out that the left's cancel culture that started on campuses has moved into mainstream liberalism.
00:04:41.000 And it turns out that mainstream liberalism had no immune system for this.
00:04:45.000 Now normally, you have to have an immune system against bad stuff happening inside your political movement.
00:04:49.000 And the immune system relies on you being able to toss people and elements out of your movement when you don't like what they're doing.
00:04:56.000 To say certain tactics are off-limits in your movement.
00:04:58.000 The problem is that the mainstream liberal left Didn't have an immune system for the hardcore left because basically all the hardcore left is they just extended the argument of mainstream liberals a little bit in ways that the mainstream liberals just could not fight back against.
00:05:13.000 So let me explain what I mean here.
00:05:15.000 So the difference, I think, between liberals and the hard left in the United States is that liberals in the United States were all about fighting inequality from within the system.
00:05:24.000 This is what liberals in the United States used to share with sort of classical liberals or even conservatives was the idea the American system wasn't necessarily inherently bad, it just had some problems with it.
00:05:34.000 And if we just fix the problems, if we tinker with the problems in a technocratic way, if we harness the power of the American economy, if we harness capitalism to a bunch of regulations, Then we can end up with something that looks a lot more like gear up, a lot more equal in outcome.
00:05:46.000 Now, what the left and liberals held in common was a goal of ending inequality.
00:05:50.000 And not an inequality of opportunity or inequality of rights, ending inequality of outcome.
00:05:54.000 That's what the left and liberals held in common.
00:05:56.000 What the left and liberals were divided about was working within the system or working to destroy the system from outside.
00:06:02.000 And so these two groups, the liberals and the left, they decided to basically make a common cause.
00:06:07.000 Okay, well, we're not sure whether we're gonna tear down the system or whether we are going to work inside the system, but we have a common enemy, and that common enemy is the right, and the right must be fought.
00:06:16.000 And so you saw these two groups of people basically combining forces, and this is sort of the difference between the radical left wing of the Democratic Party that was rioting at the 1968 Chicago Convention and the Hubert Humphrey wing of the Democratic Party that was still in charge of the party in 1968.
00:06:30.000 You've seen this debate play out for decades inside the Democratic Party.
00:06:33.000 One group of Democrats basically saying that The system itself is not completely broken.
00:06:38.000 It's not completely wrong.
00:06:40.000 It doesn't have to be completely vitiated.
00:06:42.000 What you have to do is work, tinker inside the system, and we draw closer every day to utopia.
00:06:47.000 But you can't tear down the entire system because, while we don't like some of the roots of the system, we do like some of the things about the system.
00:06:53.000 Like, we still like the culture of rights.
00:06:54.000 This is why the ACLU used to be very much in favor of freedom of speech.
00:06:58.000 And the radical left's like, no, all of this is bad, right?
00:07:00.000 Everything has to go.
00:07:01.000 We need to tear everything down in neo-Marxist fashion, and we need to build up a new Marxist utopia.
00:07:05.000 So that divide was there, but it was papered over by general oppositions to the right.
00:07:10.000 Now, liberals always had the upper hand here because the mainstream American population was never in favor of tearing down the system.
00:07:16.000 And when the Democratic Party was most successful historically is when the Democratic Party was making the liberal argument, not the hard left argument.
00:07:21.000 Whenever the Democratic Party made the hard left argument, the Democratic Party lost.
00:07:25.000 Whenever the Democratic Party argued we're tearing down the entire system, then they realized the American people are not up for that.
00:07:30.000 The American people kind of like the American system.
00:07:33.000 And so liberals always had the upper hand inside the party.
00:07:37.000 But the problem, and this was the pitch the liberals made, was, you know, the reason you, on the left, you need to deal with us is because we can channel your program into action points that are palatable to the American people.
00:07:47.000 But here's the problem.
00:07:48.000 The liberals never had any immune system against the arguments of the left basically soul-sucking them.
00:07:54.000 Why?
00:07:55.000 Well, because the liberals made a move in the 1960s that they really never let go and really opened them up.
00:08:01.000 Their own case for maintaining the system.
00:08:03.000 It opened them up to a critique from the radical left that they simply could not rebut.
00:08:07.000 So what was that argument?
00:08:08.000 Well, in the 1960s, the left began to make the argument that if you were against their programs, if you were against their political programs that stood in favor of ending inequality, right?
00:08:18.000 We're working within the system to end inequality was the argument.
00:08:21.000 If you were against any of those programs, it's because secretly you were racist.
00:08:25.000 And the right was hit with this over and over and over again.
00:08:27.000 And the right couldn't understand it.
00:08:29.000 I mean, the right got this all the time.
00:08:31.000 If you were in favor of welfare reform, it's because you were secretly a racist.
00:08:35.000 If you were against Obamacare, it's because you're secretly a racist.
00:08:38.000 If you were against any of the left's programs, the liberals' programs, in terms of shifting the nature of American government, it's because you were secretly a racist.
00:08:47.000 So they allied with the radical racial movement to racialize everything in order to again push forward.
00:08:52.000 So the liberal left, which wanted to work within the system, built alliances with two groups of people now who wanted to tear down the system.
00:08:58.000 One, radical racialists who saw the entire system as an outgrowth of American brutality.
00:09:03.000 And two, neo-Marxists who wanted to see the entire system ripped down about their ears.
00:09:08.000 And liberals were like, okay, we still have the upper hand here.
00:09:10.000 We still have the upper hand.
00:09:12.000 Now the problem is that by bringing everybody into this fold and creating this alliance, the liberals basically made themselves a minority inside their own movement.
00:09:21.000 And how did this work?
00:09:23.000 So basically you had a bunch of people who said, listen, When we say that you stand in favor of systems, you on the right, that you stand in favor of systems that perpetuate inequality.
00:09:33.000 And so we want to change those systems because that's racist that you want to perpetuate inequality.
00:09:37.000 That is the argument liberals make.
00:09:38.000 The left said, it's not just that the systems have to be changed from the inside to stop racism.
00:09:43.000 The systems have to be torn down as a whole to stop racism.
00:09:46.000 In fact, every element of the system has to be torn down to stop racism.
00:09:50.000 And the liberals wanted to maintain at least some semblance of the system were taken aback by this argument.
00:09:55.000 They had no immune system to this argument because they'd been using the exact same argument to attack the right for years.
00:10:01.000 For years, the attack on the right had been, you guys are secretly racist because you don't agree with us.
00:10:06.000 And then the left said to the liberals, you guys are secretly racist because you don't agree with us.
00:10:11.000 And liberals had no comeback to that because they'd been using the same exact argument for literally decades.
00:10:17.000 Now, normally, there'd be a couple of pushback points from the liberals to the left here.
00:10:21.000 One would be, guys, we can't win like this, right?
00:10:24.000 Tearing down the system is not a winning strategy.
00:10:26.000 Tearing down the system is not going to be successful, right?
00:10:28.000 This has always been the liberal talking point against the hard left, which is, we're gonna take your more radical viewpoints, we're going to channel them into a more palatable form to the American people, and then we will win a broad victory.
00:10:38.000 But if it's just you guys, you're a rump, right?
00:10:40.000 You don't actually have enough votes in order to win things.
00:10:43.000 Well, now the left says to liberals, guys, have you seen our cultural dominance?
00:10:47.000 Have you seen the kind of cultural power we can exert?
00:10:50.000 Have you seen the fact that we can take shows off the air?
00:10:52.000 Have you seen the fact that we can take over Hollywood?
00:10:54.000 That we can take over mainstream media institutions?
00:10:57.000 Have you seen the fact that we can club people into submission?
00:10:59.000 Have you seen this?
00:11:00.000 Don't pretend that we are the minority anymore.
00:11:03.000 We are now the majority.
00:11:05.000 We have a coalition of the dispossessed.
00:11:07.000 Or at least the purportedly dispossessed.
00:11:09.000 And we are going to mobilize against the system and you guys are standing in our way.
00:11:12.000 You're either with us or you're against us.
00:11:14.000 So point number one that the liberals had against the left was gone.
00:11:17.000 Because the left said, listen, you've been saying we need you for victory.
00:11:20.000 What if we don't need you for victory?
00:11:21.000 What if actually, if you join us, we have victory?
00:11:25.000 What if the left sides behind Bernie Sanders and maybe we can still win?
00:11:29.000 And this begins to look much more like a plausible outcome when they're running against somebody like Donald Trump because they say everybody hates Trump so much that, you know, we can be as hard left as we want to be and we don't need you to uphold the system anymore.
00:11:40.000 So that was point number one that the liberals used to use against the left and that the left has basically destroyed.
00:11:44.000 Point number two is that the liberals used to have a principled point with regard to the left, which was, listen, even if we are the majority, the reality is that one of the ways we became the majority is by using many of the rights that are now decrying, right?
00:11:58.000 The right to freedom of speech.
00:11:58.000 We used to like that thing because that was what gave us the power to overcome culturally immobile obstacles.
00:12:06.000 Right.
00:12:06.000 It was the way that we overcame that is the right had certain cultural dominance.
00:12:10.000 We used freedom of speech in order to overcome that sort of dominance.
00:12:14.000 And so the institution of freedom of speech is inherently good.
00:12:16.000 Right.
00:12:16.000 And you can't just you can't just tear down systems that infringe people's rights.
00:12:21.000 The left used it.
00:12:22.000 Some people in the liberal left used to believe in rights.
00:12:26.000 And the left said, oh no, no, no, you're getting this all wrong.
00:12:28.000 You're getting this all wrong.
00:12:30.000 Rights are not even implicated here, guys.
00:12:32.000 Rights are not even implicated.
00:12:33.000 What we're doing is we're trying to stop violence.
00:12:36.000 We're trying to stop violence.
00:12:37.000 And you are complicit in violence if you stand for rights.
00:12:40.000 So the left came up with a clever tactic, right?
00:12:42.000 This started on college campus with all the safetyism.
00:12:45.000 The argument is that if I say something you don't like, it is not that I am exercising my freedom of speech and we ought to have a discussion.
00:12:51.000 It is that I am enacting violence upon you.
00:12:54.000 And so rights are not implicated anymore.
00:12:56.000 Rights themselves, in fact, are a shield for violence being done.
00:13:01.000 And again, the liberals really had no comeback to this because the liberals had been using very similar arguments on a variety of issues.
00:13:08.000 Liberals had been using this argument, for example, on freedom of association, right?
00:13:11.000 They said, freedom of association is bad.
00:13:13.000 The federal government now has to regulate freedom of association because some people misuse freedom of association.
00:13:18.000 They don't want to associate with people because they're racist, for example.
00:13:20.000 And therefore, freedom of association cannot be used as an excuse to do bad things.
00:13:26.000 And so the hard left said, okay, well, if that applies to freedom of association, then it also applies to things like freedom of speech.
00:13:31.000 And so freedom of speech has to be curtailed in order to protect people's feelings, because people's lives are being ruined.
00:13:37.000 People are feeling unsafe.
00:13:39.000 And so the left has basically co-opted the mainstream liberal movement.
00:13:43.000 And this is what you are getting.
00:13:45.000 This is all a big lead up to what you are seeing right now in mainstream media institutions around the country, major institutions around the country, as liberals, I think, are giving sort of their final gasp of breath before they are drowned in the bathtub of leftism.
00:13:58.000 That's what's happening right now.
00:14:00.000 What's happening right now is that the liberals, having thought all along that this alliance was going to serve them, it turns out that the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact has now been broken.
00:14:12.000 And it turns out that somebody's invading the Soviet Union.
00:14:14.000 It turns out that the heretofore alliance was always a shield for a betrayal that was going to come and take over the leadership.
00:14:25.000 There was gonna be an internal battle, liberals didn't expect it, and now they're looking around and they're going, oh, wait a second, oh no.
00:14:32.000 The Committee on Public Safety, they're the first people to the guillotines, as it turns out, that if you humored all these folks, that eventually they would turn on you.
00:14:39.000 They figured they'll never turn on us, they're just, you know, we'll use their passion.
00:14:43.000 The liberals felt about the mainstream left, the big radical left, the same way they felt about the college campus kids.
00:14:49.000 Well, we'll humor them.
00:14:50.000 We'll toss them a bone.
00:14:51.000 They'll provide the passion.
00:14:53.000 They'll provide the impetus.
00:14:53.000 We'll pat them on the head and we'll tell them that they're doing nice, good things.
00:14:57.000 And then everything will be okay, right?
00:14:58.000 We'll just work with them, even though they're really, really radical.
00:15:01.000 And then the left is like, well, what if we don't want to work with you?
00:15:03.000 What if instead we want you to become an adjunct to us?
00:15:06.000 We are sick of riding shotgun.
00:15:08.000 What if we take the wheel and you ride shotgun for a little while?
00:15:11.000 And liberals have no idea how to counter this.
00:15:13.000 And so instead, they're signing open letters saying, we support freedom of speech, and then they're being canceled for doing so.
00:15:19.000 You can see this playing out in the halls of Vox.com, one of the less good publications on the internet.
00:15:25.000 We'll get to the battle that's broken out At Vox.com, because it is quite fascinating and indicative of exactly what is happening inside the left versus liberal internal battle.
00:15:34.000 Now, normally, by the way, I would say I would just sit back and enjoy this, right?
00:15:37.000 I mean, this is like a bunch of people who I'm not necessarily the most fond of who are eating each other.
00:15:41.000 But I think that the liberals, their perspective must be upheld here, because if you're going to have an alliance at this point in American life that allows for conversation, the liberals have to win this battle with the left.
00:15:51.000 I think right now they're losing and they're losing pretty badly.
00:15:53.000 We'll get to this in just one second.
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00:17:21.000 Okay, so cancel culture has now come for Vox.com.
00:17:24.000 So Vox.com, a supposed explanatory journalism website.
00:17:27.000 It is very much of the political left.
00:17:30.000 And let's be frank about this.
00:17:31.000 Vox.com has for a very long time been on the side of the cancel culture, right?
00:17:35.000 They've been deeply enmeshed in the cancel culture.
00:17:38.000 When Steven Crowder said some not very nice things about Carlos Maza, who was then working for Vox, Carlos Maza claimed publicly that he had been victimized and that he was, his feelings had been hurt, his safety had been imperiled because somebody said mean words about him on the interwebs, which as a person who's, I think it's fair to say I've taken my fair share of mean words on the interwebs.
00:17:56.000 It's like, come on.
00:17:58.000 Get over it, dude.
00:17:59.000 Like, seriously, just move on with your life.
00:18:01.000 Grow a thicker skin.
00:18:02.000 As Don Lemon might say, right?
00:18:04.000 Just grow a thicker skin.
00:18:05.000 But, Vox went all out and tried to have Steven Crowder basically ban from the YouTube platform.
00:18:10.000 Like, they issued a full letter from the editorial board trying to ban.
00:18:13.000 So they've been very involved in cancel culture for a long time.
00:18:17.000 But one of the people over at Vox.com, Matthew Iglesias, Again, is not a person who I think I've spoken about positively much on this program other than maybe in the last couple of months when it seems like he has had an awakening to the fact that free speech is actually a good thing.
00:18:29.000 Iglesias signed on to this Harper's Weekly letter that was signed by 150 different people, all of whom were from center to central left, I would say.
00:18:37.000 The most right-wing figures there were people like David Frum, right?
00:18:39.000 Not a single Trump voter among them, obviously.
00:18:42.000 It was signed by about 150 intellectuals and pseudo-intellectuals, like Noam Chomsky.
00:18:46.000 And it was basically just a statement that we don't like cancel culture.
00:18:50.000 So Iglesias signed it, and he was immediately hit with an accusation by one of his own staffers, who is a trans woman, meaning biological male, who believes that he is a female, that Iglesias was somehow threatening his safety, right?
00:19:04.000 That Iglesias was somehow targeting him.
00:19:07.000 Which is patently absurd.
00:19:09.000 There's nothing in the letter about trans issues at all.
00:19:12.000 In fact, a couple of different trans people signed the letter because it had nothing to do with trans issues.
00:19:17.000 This person sends this letter, an open letter, right, on the interwebs, just throws it out there to the editors of Vox.com.
00:19:24.000 Ezra Klein is one of the heads of Vox.com.
00:19:28.000 Is he technically editor-in-chief?
00:19:30.000 I'm not sure what, Ezra.
00:19:31.000 I don't think so.
00:19:32.000 I think somebody else is the actual editor-in-chief of Vox.com.
00:19:36.000 But Ezra is a high-ranking staffer.
00:19:38.000 He's a co-founder at Vox.
00:19:40.000 He's currently editor-at-large over there, I believe.
00:19:42.000 So Ezra, obviously a very high-ranking staffer over there.
00:19:44.000 And Ezra, who's always been semi-warm toward cancel culture, and you can view our Sunday special that I did with him.
00:19:50.000 Perfectly nice guy, Ezra Klein, but not somebody who has fought very hard against cancel culture, and in fact has sort of sat there sort of cheering it for a while.
00:19:57.000 Ezra Klein and Matthew Iglesias get into a flame war.
00:20:00.000 Now remember, Iglesias is another co-founder of Vox.com, right?
00:20:03.000 Matthew Iglesias and...
00:20:06.000 And Ezra Klein were, I believe, co-founders of this thing in 2014.
00:20:13.000 He's currently an editor and columnist over at Vox.com.
00:20:15.000 So Iglesias signs this letter and then he gets into a flame war with Ezra Klein.
00:20:20.000 And meanwhile, other people at Vox.com are basically flaming, like really flaming Iglesias online.
00:20:27.000 And here's how it happened.
00:20:29.000 So here's some of the tweets that started flying back and forth last night about cancel culture.
00:20:36.000 So what happened is that Iglesias tweeted out, I've committed to not doing contentious stuff on Twitter anymore.
00:20:42.000 So I seriously can't get comments on this.
00:20:43.000 I would appreciate being taken out of the thread.
00:20:46.000 There was a whole thread about Iglesias and whether he was sort of being canceled from within over at Vox.com.
00:20:51.000 And then Ezra Klein basically subtweeted Matthew Iglesias.
00:20:55.000 Right?
00:20:55.000 He subtweeted him.
00:20:56.000 He tweeted, a lot of debates that sell themselves as being about free speech are actually about power.
00:21:01.000 And there's a lot of power in being able to claim and hold the mantle of free speech defender.
00:21:04.000 So that is Ezra Klein dishonestly suggesting the exact radical left rationale for shutting down freedom of speech.
00:21:10.000 If you stand for freedom of speech, what you're actually standing for is evil people taking advantage of freedom of speech.
00:21:15.000 And Matthew Iglesias, that's what you're actually defending.
00:21:17.000 Right?
00:21:17.000 It's a very obvious subtweet.
00:21:18.000 There's only one reason that Ezra Klein is tweeting about this.
00:21:21.000 Which makes him kind of a nasty person, right?
00:21:22.000 I mean, this is pretty nasty stuff.
00:21:24.000 To take the co-founder of your website, who signed a letter that basically says free speech is good and cancel culture is bad, and then tweet, actually, what he means, actually, what he means is he wants to be powerful.
00:21:35.000 He gets power out of defending free speech.
00:21:36.000 First of all, let me just make something perfectly clear on the left today.
00:21:39.000 There is no power in claiming you're about free speech on the left today.
00:21:42.000 None.
00:21:43.000 The amount of power and prestige to be earned on the political left for being pro-free speech is very low.
00:21:50.000 By the way, it ain't that high on the right either.
00:21:52.000 Because I end up having to defend a lot of people that the right doesn't like particularly much.
00:21:55.000 I've ended up defending people like James Gunn on this show.
00:21:58.000 I've ended up defending people on this show Who have been hired by the New York Times after saying anti-white stuff.
00:22:04.000 I've defended a wide variety of people.
00:22:06.000 You're not going to earn friends and influence people, really, by defending free speech.
00:22:09.000 But according to Ezra Klein, if you say you're for free speech, you're for the re-enshrinement of power, which is a trick that Ezra does a lot, and I find it really, really ugly, is this idea that when you say one thing, what you actually mean is this other thing.
00:22:20.000 You don't even know.
00:22:21.000 But what you actually are about is re-enshrining hierarchies of power.
00:22:25.000 And that's what Ezra Klein says about Iglesias.
00:22:28.000 So then Iglesias fires back, should I reply to this with a concrete example or stick to my commitments to you?
00:22:32.000 Which is basically him saying, do you want me to violate my confidentiality that I've signed with Vox.com and the commitments that I've signed to Vox.com and the personal commitments?
00:22:41.000 You're flaming me online, but I'm not going to flame you, is what Iglesias is saying right there.
00:22:47.000 Okay, then, so it appears like people online are speculating that basically it looks like Vox is going to fire Iglesias, right?
00:22:53.000 It's not me, right?
00:22:54.000 Yasha Monk over at The Atlantic is sort of suggesting that this looks very much like Ezra Klein's talking about power here.
00:23:00.000 Ezra Klein is editor-at-large and co-founder of Vox.
00:23:02.000 He has a little bit of weight over there.
00:23:03.000 So then Iglesias and Ezra Klein at the very end of the night, they decide that they're going to go sort of weapons down.
00:23:08.000 So Iglesias tweets out, I would like to deescalate this.
00:23:10.000 Nobody is losing their job.
00:23:11.000 I think I've spoken my mind very clearly on this subject.
00:23:13.000 I'm just trying to move on to other things instead of endless rounds of Twitter wrangling, which of course is not what's going on at all.
00:23:19.000 Basically.
00:23:20.000 He is trying to keep silent so that he is not ousted from Vox.com and publicly bashed by his former co-founder partner, Ezra Klein.
00:23:29.000 And then Ezra Klein does the same thing.
00:23:31.000 They must come to some sort of agreement.
00:23:32.000 Ezra Klein tweets out, The idea that I would try to get Matt, literally my co-founder and the oldest friend in journalism, fired over this letter is risible.
00:23:38.000 I've asked Matt and others at Vox to not subtweet colleagues.
00:23:41.000 My mistake here is this tweet read like a subtweet of him when it honestly wasn't.
00:23:44.000 I am sure that it was not a subtweet of Iglesias.
00:23:46.000 Sure, sure it wasn't a substitute of Iglesias.
00:23:49.000 The bottom line is that the sort of Iglesias versus Klein battle inside Vox.com is quite indicative of the extent to which the radical left has influenced the debate.
00:23:57.000 Right?
00:23:57.000 That is the real key here.
00:23:59.000 Is that there's a whole contingent at Vox that doesn't like free speech.
00:24:02.000 There's a whole contingent at Vox that wants cancel culture to win.
00:24:05.000 And it sees cancel culture as an ultimate good.
00:24:08.000 And it sees rights as an obstacle to the building of a new society.
00:24:12.000 The radical left has attacked the liberals and many people who are sort of wavering, like I think Ezra was kind of wavering here.
00:24:17.000 Some of the people who may have been wavering or reportedly publicly wavering are not wavering much anymore, obviously.
00:24:23.000 And now, does Ezra actually have the power to fire Iglesias?
00:24:25.000 No.
00:24:26.000 The actual EIC of Vox is a woman named Lauren Williams, who tweeted out, Okay, well, if you're the EIC of Vox, you might want to get your house under control, lady.
00:24:33.000 I don't tweet, so folks who don't know or work with me seem to think a variety of other people wield that power.
00:24:38.000 Okay, well, if you're the EIC of Vox, you might wanna get your house under control, lady.
00:24:41.000 I mean, like, let me just put it this way.
00:24:43.000 I am the founder of Daily Wire.
00:24:46.000 And if people inside my shop were subtweeting other people inside my shop, the way that this is going on at Vox, somebody would be on the breadlines tomorrow.
00:24:55.000 This is not the way you run a business.
00:24:57.000 But again, the way that you run a business now is to basically let your woke staffers control the whole thing.
00:25:01.000 And the liberals, do the liberals have an immune system to this?
00:25:04.000 I really wonder.
00:25:05.000 I really wonder because once you have that combination of tear down the system and also anyone who says don't tear down the system is a racist.
00:25:12.000 Once you have moved from traditional liberal views of racism to the anti-racism of the Ibram Kendi, Robin D'Angelo crowd, there is no immune system among liberals to fight this.
00:25:21.000 I think the battle's over and I think that the liberals just haven't acknowledged it yet.
00:25:24.000 Or they're going to have to acknowledge that they are on the outside of their own party.
00:25:26.000 And I think that, let me just say this, I've spoken to many, many liberals at mainstream organizations in the past three weeks.
00:25:33.000 I never reveal who I talk to because I understand the way this works.
00:25:35.000 If they say they've ever had a conversation with me, they're immediately canceled.
00:25:39.000 Right?
00:25:39.000 I can say, I could say it with no fear, right?
00:25:41.000 I can say it because guess what?
00:25:42.000 I don't care.
00:25:43.000 But if you're a liberal working inside a mainstream media organization, You can't say you've ever had a conversation, like, you've never glanced at me publicly.
00:25:50.000 If you ever glance at me publicly, you might get canceled.
00:25:52.000 Let me just say, I've gotten a bevy of texts, not just from one or two people, from many, many people, who are mainstream liberals, asking me what the hell is going on.
00:26:00.000 I'm like, guys, sorry that you're late to the party.
00:26:02.000 Sorry I've been warning you about this for a while.
00:26:06.000 Just, I hate to break it to you, but welcome.
00:26:08.000 I feel like Bruce Willis in Die Hard looking down on Carl.
00:26:12.000 Welcome to the party, pal, as the shots rain down from the third floor from Hans Gruber's crew.
00:26:18.000 It's pretty incredible.
00:26:19.000 Meanwhile, you know how much the... So, a couple of the key arguments that have been made here by the radical left, you can see that, again, their argument is not absolutely wrong, right?
00:26:29.000 The liberals made a couple of arguments.
00:26:30.000 One is that rights are good.
00:26:31.000 And the second is that if you don't adopt our tactics, you're going to lose.
00:26:34.000 And the radical left is like, well, we don't have to adopt your tactics.
00:26:36.000 We could just tear down the entire system and we'll win.
00:26:39.000 I'm gonna show you evidence that the radical left is not wrong here.
00:26:42.000 The radical left is not incorrect here.
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00:28:02.000 Okay, so as the liberals lost, I think, their unity with the country.
00:28:08.000 As they began to give ground over time to the radical left that claimed that the entire system was corrupt and evil and anybody who opposed institutional change was racist.
00:28:15.000 As that happened, as they went along with the full-scale destruction of America's history, culture, philosophy, the destruction of the elements of which I talk about in my upcoming book, comes out very soon now, in about a week and a half, my new book, How to Destroy America in Three Easy Steps.
00:28:30.000 As the liberals and the left basically formed an alliance to go along with the destruction of these things in pursuit of political power, it turns out that the left gained the upper hand because as the culture changed, as people began to accept liberal arguments, that to oppose changes to the system was in fact an element of racism, an element of bigotry, the great stain on American history.
00:28:50.000 As people began to accept this, the left began to credibly make the argument in the institutions of power that they could make as radical an argument as they possibly wanted and people would basically go along with it.
00:29:00.000 And they're not wrong.
00:29:02.000 I mean, they've spent an inordinate amount of time, an inordinate amount of money, people on the radical left, to push this message.
00:29:08.000 They've captured institutions.
00:29:10.000 They've participated in institutional capture.
00:29:12.000 The most obvious example of the institutional capture is, of course, the 1619 Project.
00:29:16.000 The 1619 Project, by the way, one of my favorite things about the New York Times, their dishonesty is just astonishing.
00:29:22.000 The New York Times spends day after day after day trying to browbeat companies like Facebook into shutting down all the outlets they don't particularly like.
00:29:30.000 The New York Times has column after column suggesting that Facebook is evil and horrible and risible and terrible because they allow sites like Daily Wire to exist and monetize.
00:29:41.000 You know, this kind of stuff is very bad, according to the New York Times.
00:29:44.000 Every single day, there's a columnist at the New York Times who'll tweet out how popular my Facebook page is.
00:29:48.000 And it's like, well, thanks, dude.
00:29:49.000 What he's really doing, obviously, is he's suggesting that Facebook is evil for allowing my page to be popular.
00:29:54.000 Listen, it's not my fault that you write good headlines over at the Daily Wire and people want to click on our stuff, you jerk.
00:29:58.000 But the reason that people at the New York Times are doing that is because the New York Times is simultaneously dropping millions and millions of dollars in marketing on Facebook.
00:30:06.000 You know how much money the New York Times spends on the 1619 Project marketing?
00:30:11.000 There's a good story over at Daily Wire today by the new editor-in-chief over there, John Bickley, in which he talks about how much money the New York Times has spent on the 1619 project.
00:30:20.000 According to the marketing intelligence platform, Pathmatics, the New York Times, which has spent all of its time suggesting other outlets should basically be shut down on Facebook, the New York Times has spent around $65 million over the course of the last 12 months on Facebook advertising for all of its various promotional campaigns.
00:30:36.000 A review of just three ads promoting the 1619 Project, which of course reimagined America as a racist hellscape from inception to now, over the course of about two months, in fall 2019, estimates a spend of around $3 million for three ads.
00:30:50.000 Three ads.
00:30:51.000 Basically, the New York Times used Facebook to purchase a Pulitzer for Nikole Hannah-Jones.
00:30:56.000 Essentially, what happened here.
00:30:58.000 Okay, so the radical left, they can incredibly make the arguments of the liberals, listen, we don't need you guys.
00:31:02.000 We don't need your soft peddling.
00:31:04.000 We can go as hard as we want.
00:31:06.000 I mean, Nicole Hannah-Jones, what a racist hellscape America is.
00:31:08.000 I mean, what's hilarious about this is the more the radical left takes over the institutions of American culture, the harder their argument should actually become.
00:31:15.000 Because their argument, particularly the racially radical left, their argument is that America is a racist hellscape, bigoted, evil in every way.
00:31:23.000 And at the same time, they're in charge of all the major cultural institutions of the country, right?
00:31:27.000 Colin Kaepernick is earning millions of dollars from Disney for some sort of first-look deal, plus millions of dollars from Nike for kneeling.
00:31:33.000 Nicole Hannah-Jones, who spends her entire life talking about how racist America is, is now working with Oprah Winfrey, perhaps the richest woman on planet Earth, a black woman from America, partnering with Lionsgate to bring the New York Times' project to a series of films and TV shows.
00:31:49.000 Does this sound like people who are shut out of the halls of power by a racist hellscape system?
00:31:53.000 Apparently the answer is yes, but the broader argument the left can make now is, listen, we're in control.
00:31:59.000 We don't need to tolerate rights anymore.
00:32:00.000 You used to need those things like freedom of speech in order to push your point of view, because it turns out that most Americans didn't agree with it.
00:32:06.000 We don't need freedom of speech anymore.
00:32:08.000 We control the means of distribution.
00:32:10.000 We control the dissemination of information.
00:32:12.000 And if we don't, then we'll try to bully platforms into mirroring us, right?
00:32:16.000 We'll try to bully Facebook into shutting down all other dissemination of information.
00:32:20.000 Once the left has taken the reins, it's totalitarian.
00:32:22.000 I mean, that is what is going on here.
00:32:25.000 According to the New York Times, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Nicole Hannah-Jones and the New York Times have chosen global content leader Lionsgate to be the home for a wide-ranging partnership to develop Ms.
00:32:34.000 Hannah-Jones' landmark issue of the New York Times magazine, The 1619 Project, and hit New York Times podcast, 1619, into an expansive portfolio of feature films, TV series, and other content for a global audience.
00:32:45.000 Wow, I mean, what a racist hellscape America is.
00:32:47.000 What a terrible, terrible place where people of color simply cannot get ahead.
00:32:51.000 Like Nikole Hannah-Jones, who's made a living, an incredible living, and an incredible profile out of suggesting that America is, from root to branch, the worst place ever.
00:33:00.000 Really amazing stuff.
00:33:01.000 So again, the left's argument is really effective against liberals.
00:33:05.000 They say, listen, we don't need any of those rights that you used to talk about.
00:33:08.000 You know, we're old enough to remember when you used to say things like, we'll defend your right to say anything, even if we disagree with it, but we don't.
00:33:14.000 Because really what you're doing is you're enabling evil, guys.
00:33:16.000 You're truly enabling evil.
00:33:19.000 And this is why you see people on the hard left who feel no shame at defending, openly defending just terrible behavior, so long as the person who's engaging in the terrible behavior is a member of a victimized minority group.
00:33:33.000 It truly is amazing what people are willing to go along with.
00:33:36.000 For example, there's this football player named Deshaun Jackson.
00:33:39.000 Deshaun Jackson is a wide receiver for the Philadelphia Eagles, very talented guy.
00:33:44.000 He also happens to be apparently a rabid anti-Semite who is fond of quoting Hitler on his Instagram page, which is always a delight.
00:33:50.000 Okay, he quoted Hitler, he quoted Louis Farrakhan.
00:33:53.000 We already know that Ice Cube does this, right?
00:33:55.000 There was all this blowback for about 24 hours about Ice Cube.
00:33:58.000 Does anyone actually think Ice Cube won't be hired to play a part anytime in the next year or two?
00:34:03.000 Imagine somebody white in Hollywood quoting Hitler about the Jews and think whether that person would be hired anytime in the near future.
00:34:10.000 They'd at least lose a decade, right?
00:34:12.000 Mel Gibson lost a decade of his career because he did this sort of stuff, right?
00:34:15.000 But if you are on the left, and you are on the hard left, and you're a person of color, you can basically say what you want about the Jews.
00:34:21.000 So, Deshaun Jackson is openly quoting Hitler, and Shannon Sharp, the former tight end for the Denver Broncos, and I believe Green Bay Packers at one point, Shannon Sharp, he comes out and defends Deshaun Jackson and Louis Farrakhan on national television.
00:34:37.000 Because this is, the radical left does not have to have, they don't even have to abide by their own rules.
00:34:41.000 The only rule is domination of power.
00:34:42.000 They don't have to abide by their anti-bigotry rules after all.
00:34:45.000 They're moving in pursuit of the destruction of the system.
00:34:48.000 And if that means allying with people like Deshaun Jackson, they'll do it.
00:34:50.000 Here's Shannon Sharp defending Deshaun Jackson.
00:34:53.000 Where are the calls to boycott first, to boycott undisputed?
00:34:58.000 Right, really, if this happened on Fox News, right, not on Fox Sports, if this happened on Fox News, And it was right-wingers talking about excusing pro-Hitler commentary from a white guy.
00:35:08.000 How fast would the boycotts mobilize?
00:35:10.000 Where would Sleeping Giants be?
00:35:11.000 But here's Shannon Sharpe defending Louis Farrakhan and defending Deshaun Jackson.
00:35:15.000 By the way, my favorite is that Shannon Sharpe tweeted out, where are Jews defending people when they say stuff like this?
00:35:20.000 Wait, what, you want the Jews to defend a guy who's quoting Hitler?
00:35:22.000 I'm kind of confused, Shannon.
00:35:24.000 Here's Shannon Sharpe defending Deshaun Jackson.
00:35:26.000 No matter what you think of Louis Farrakhan, Nation of Islam, he has made it pretty clear over the years He does not like Jewish people.
00:35:35.000 Is that fair to say?
00:35:37.000 Well, not from the conversation that I've had with the minister.
00:35:41.000 He said this abundantly.
00:35:42.000 He's made it clear to anybody that sat down with him.
00:35:45.000 He says he doesn't.
00:35:46.000 House Representative Omar, when she said it was all about the Benjamins, they jumped all over her.
00:35:52.000 President Trump said the exact same thing.
00:35:53.000 You guys won't vote for me because you care about your money and you can't control me.
00:35:58.000 He said the exact same thing.
00:35:59.000 Nobody said a word.
00:36:01.000 Okay, I love the whataboutism on behalf of Louis Farrakhan.
00:36:03.000 Really solid stuff there from Shannon Char.
00:36:05.000 Bottom line is, if you're on the proper side of the left, all defenses are available to you.
00:36:10.000 If you're not on the proper side of the left, no defenses are available to you.
00:36:13.000 And again, the cultural commanding heights have been captured by the radical left to the point where bloviating idiots like Chelsea Handler are fully compliant with the line, right?
00:36:23.000 The new line is it's time to dismantle the entire system.
00:36:25.000 Here is Chelsea Handler talking about this yesterday.
00:36:29.000 Coming to the realization that my success has a lot to do with my skin color, I wanted to really do something that set an example about how to, you know, contribute.
00:36:42.000 Because at this point, it's not enough to just say you're not racist.
00:36:46.000 You know, you have to be, we have to be working to dismantle the system because we are reaping the benefits in exchange for people losing benefits.
00:36:55.000 We have to, we have to dismantle the system.
00:36:58.000 Okay, well, when you've got the entire culture echoing the message, it's time to not just work within the system, the old liberal line, right?
00:37:03.000 Not to change the system, to dismantle the system, to fundamentally transform the system.
00:37:09.000 Then, you got a problem.
00:37:11.000 Now, this is why.
00:37:13.000 The line that is being used about Joe Biden right now is pretty damn dishonest.
00:37:17.000 Joe Biden is going to be a bulwark against these folks.
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00:38:39.000 Joe Biden was nominated on the basis of the liberal promise, not the hard left promise.
00:38:43.000 But can Americans trust that Joe Biden is going to be a bulwark against this sort of stuff?
00:38:47.000 In other words, would Joe Biden have signed the cancel culture letter or would he be on the Ezra Klein side, basically pooh-poohing cancel culture, pretending it doesn't exist and suggesting that if you care about free speech, it's about relationships of power, right?
00:38:58.000 Where does Joe Biden lie here?
00:38:59.000 And can Joe Biden be trusted to basically stop The radicalism of a movement that wants to tear it all down.
00:39:06.000 We'll get to that in just one second.
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00:40:47.000 So can Joe Biden be trusted to stop the march of the radical left?
00:40:52.000 So remember, Bernie Sanders was going to be the guy.
00:40:55.000 You go all the way back to February, Bernie Sanders was sort of the apotheosis of all of this.
00:40:59.000 He was the pinnacle of it.
00:41:00.000 I mean, he was having rallies where he literally had indigenous people get on stage and talk about how the rally was taking place on stolen Native American land.
00:41:08.000 He was going up there and apologizing for America's history.
00:41:10.000 He was going up there and suggesting that America's entire system was thoroughly corrupt and evil and had to be torn down and built anew.
00:41:17.000 And this is stuff that Bernie Sanders talked about.
00:41:19.000 So all the kind of most radical stuff that you're hearing right now about Mount Rushmore and tearing down statues.
00:41:23.000 Bernie was ahead of that stuff.
00:41:24.000 Bernie had already made his peace with the radical racial left and he had made the alliance.
00:41:29.000 And then Joe Biden waltzed to the nomination because it turns out most Americans are still not up for this.
00:41:33.000 So the great lie that this is what the liberals really should be resisting along the lines of is That the old promise is still kind of true, which is you can't win, except that the radical left thinks they can win and that they're going to use Joe Biden as their vehicle for winning.
00:41:49.000 So Joe, is Joe Biden a captured vehicle is really the question of the moment for the 2020 election.
00:41:55.000 Because Joe Biden basically won the primaries by saying, I'm not Bernie.
00:41:59.000 And most Democrats were like, you know what?
00:42:00.000 We could use a not Bernie in order to win.
00:42:03.000 But as Trump becomes more unpopular and the radical left gains more and more credence in the culture wars, the radical left has been able, as I've been talking about, to suggest that it does have the power to win elections on its own without the soft peddling of people like Joe Biden.
00:42:18.000 And here's the problem for Joe Biden.
00:42:20.000 Joe Biden basically knows it.
00:42:22.000 Joe Biden, secretly, and not quite that secretly, is making overtures to the radical left.
00:42:28.000 He's still making noises about how he's gonna be sort of a bulwark, but we know that the bulwark doesn't really exist.
00:42:33.000 In the same way that Barack Obama, in 2008, was suggesting that he was very much pro-traditional marriage, when everybody basically knew that he was lying, everybody kind of knew, because he'd already talked about it in 2006, 2007, that he was pro-same-sex marriage, but in 2008, running for president, he was like, I don't think the American people are ready for that, so I know, I'll just lie.
00:42:48.000 And he went out there and he was like, I'm pro-traditional marriage, In fact, the same election that elected Barack Obama basically brought a proposition in California to fruition, Prop 8, that protected traditional marriage.
00:43:01.000 And it was largely on the back of black votes, right?
00:43:02.000 A lot of black voters voted for Obama and also voted to preserve traditional marriage.
00:43:05.000 And those were not in conflict in 2008 because Barack Obama was saying he was for traditional marriage in 2008.
00:43:11.000 So now it feels kind of the same thing with Joe Biden and him standing up for quote, America's values and America's history, right?
00:43:17.000 Joe Biden was asked, would you tear down statues?
00:43:19.000 And he said, well, I would let them tear down the Confederate statues, but I wouldn't tear down statues of Washington, Jefferson and Columbus, which is, by the way, the sort of mainstream American position.
00:43:27.000 But it's a holding pattern, isn't it?
00:43:29.000 Isn't it a holding pattern?
00:43:30.000 Like, do you think that Joe Biden is genuine?
00:43:32.000 There are two questions.
00:43:33.000 Is Joe Biden genuine when he says that sort of stuff?
00:43:35.000 That he's going to provide some sort of wall against the radical left, destroying our culture from within, turning us into a censorious Mao struggle session?
00:43:44.000 Shaming culture.
00:43:45.000 Is he going to be with the people who signed this Harper's letter?
00:43:48.000 Or is he going to be on the side of the people who are attacking the people who signed the Harper's letter?
00:43:52.000 Or is he just going to enable those people?
00:43:54.000 Or is he just going to stand back and let it happen?
00:43:55.000 And my bet is on the third.
00:43:57.000 Joe Biden will say whatever he has to do to get elected, but Joe Biden is not going to be an activist on behalf of traditional American history, philosophy, or culture.
00:44:04.000 When it comes right down to it, if Joe Biden thought he could get away with signing into law a hate speech regulation, I think Joe Biden would probably do it.
00:44:13.000 I think that if Joe Biden thought he could get away with signing into law slavery reparations, I think Joe Biden would probably do it.
00:44:18.000 He wants to be seen as a historic figure.
00:44:20.000 You're not seen as a historic figure for holding the line.
00:44:22.000 You're seen as a historic figure on the left for radically changing things.
00:44:25.000 Okay?
00:44:26.000 And the best indicator that Joe Biden is really not what he is campaigning as, which is, you can trust me.
00:44:34.000 I'm not going to change too much.
00:44:35.000 I'm an old dead guy.
00:44:36.000 I'm not even alive.
00:44:37.000 I'm Joe Biden and I'm not...
00:44:40.000 The best indicator that this is not the case is what's happening right now with the Democratic Party platform.
00:44:45.000 So as Steve Guest from the GOP points out, the Biden platform is purely ripping off Bernie at this point, purely ripping him off.
00:44:54.000 So Biden has picked up the Bernie criminal justice unity task force idea.
00:45:00.000 He just picked it up directly from Bernie's platform, like word for word.
00:45:03.000 He's plagiarizing.
00:45:04.000 I mean, Joe Biden is famous for plagiarizing, but he's now plagiarizing Bernie Sanders' platform straight.
00:45:09.000 Biden copied Bernie's workplace democracy plan straight, word for word.
00:45:13.000 His economic agenda copies directly from Bernie's disability rights agenda.
00:45:18.000 Biden's social security agenda is copied directly, word for word, from Bernie Sanders' agenda.
00:45:25.000 That's the story here, is that while Biden is posing himself as this kind of Moderate Democrat you can feel safe with.
00:45:33.000 He's the return to normalcy candidate.
00:45:36.000 Donald Trump is this wild, crazy guy.
00:45:38.000 But here I am, barely alive, and I'm not going to change all that much.
00:45:41.000 We'll all go back to our daily lives and this craziness will end.
00:45:45.000 That's not where this is going.
00:45:47.000 That's not where this is going.
00:45:48.000 You know who knows this is not where this is going?
00:45:50.000 Bernie.
00:45:50.000 So Bernie was on MSNBC.
00:45:52.000 He said, listen, we have been able to basically shovel our entire platform into Biden's platform.
00:45:58.000 Bernie said on MSNBC with Chris Hayes, he said Biden could be the most progressive president since FDR.
00:46:05.000 Here's what it sounded like.
00:46:06.000 And these folks, needless to say, people who represented the progressive movement had a different perspective on things than did Biden's people.
00:46:14.000 But there was serious discussion and I think a real honest effort to come up with a compromise.
00:46:21.000 And I think the compromise that they came up with, if implemented, We'll make Biden the most progressive president since FDR.
00:46:31.000 So as you can hear, Bernie is sounding pretty happy there, right?
00:46:34.000 Bernie has engaged in institutional capture and the institutional capture is complete.
00:46:38.000 And Biden is now a tool of the radical left.
00:46:41.000 And this is one of the reasons, by the way, why I think that it's very likely that Biden is going to avoid debate with Trump.
00:46:46.000 Because I think Trump could simply ask him some very simple questions, some very simple questions.
00:46:50.000 He could ask him, do you believe that America was founded in 1776 or in 1619?
00:46:55.000 Do you believe that America was founded on slavery?
00:46:57.000 Do you think that America was an incredible system marred by the great sin of slavery?
00:47:02.000 Or do you think that America's systems are rooted in slavery?
00:47:05.000 Do you believe in slavery reparations?
00:47:08.000 Do you believe that the cops should be defunded, as so many members of your own party seem to have suggested?
00:47:13.000 Do you think the cops are endemically racist?
00:47:14.000 Forget about defunding them.
00:47:15.000 Do you think that they are systemically racist and targeting black Americans?
00:47:20.000 There are a thousand things that Biden could be asked that are part of the radical left's agenda.
00:47:24.000 Biden doesn't want to be asked those questions because his entire goal here is to elide those questions in very much the same way that Barack Obama was able to elide many of the questions about his own radicalism in 2008.
00:47:34.000 Barack Obama was very good at this.
00:47:35.000 Biden is not quite as quick on his feet as Barack Obama was circa 2008.
00:47:40.000 Also, he's not faced with an opponent.
00:47:43.000 Who was quite as conciliatory as John McCain in 2008.
00:47:45.000 In 2008, John McCain was not willing to ask Barack Obama any tough questions.
00:47:48.000 Donald Trump has no limits and will ask Joe Biden pretty much anything on a debate stage, which is why I think it is quite likely that Biden actually just does not debate Trump.
00:47:56.000 I think that, especially with coronavirus, I think it is quite possible that Joe Biden basically says, I'm not debating Trump and there's no reason for me to debate Trump.
00:48:03.000 I'm up double digits in the polls.
00:48:04.000 Right now, Cook Political Reports, which is a fairly, I would say, cautious, Cautious organization.
00:48:12.000 Cook Political Report basically says Biden's won the election already.
00:48:15.000 According to Cook Political Report, just looking at, they rank sort of states lean Republican, lean Democrat, solidly Democrat.
00:48:21.000 They say that Biden has already locked up 275 electoral votes.
00:48:24.000 They basically called the race already.
00:48:26.000 It's July.
00:48:27.000 Now that could change, but Trump's going to have to pull a rabbit out of the hat.
00:48:30.000 One of the rabbits he's going to have to pull out of the hat is a debate in which he just clocks Biden across the head.
00:48:35.000 And so Biden's best move here is to avoid all these questions.
00:48:40.000 Biden's best move here, because you know he's going to pick somebody radical for his VP.
00:48:44.000 There's just no way he's going to pick somebody who is not, in some sense, radical.
00:48:48.000 The least radical candidate on his list is Susan Rice, which does not speak very highly of the non-radicalism of your list.
00:48:54.000 But Thomas Friedman is openly suggesting now, in the New York Times, that Biden should not debate Trump unless Trump releases his tax returns for 2016 through 2018, which, of course, Trump is probably not going to do.
00:49:06.000 And second, Biden should insist, says Thomas Friedman, on a real-time fact-checking team approved by both candidates be hired by the Nonpartisan Commission on Presidential Debates, and that 10 minutes before the scheduled conclusion of the debate, his team report on any misleading statements, phony numbers, or outright lies either candidate had uttered.
00:49:23.000 Okay, there's no way Trump's going to agree to that, because there is no possible way he could come up with an actual bipartisan fact-checking team approved by both candidates.
00:49:30.000 It doesn't work that way.
00:49:32.000 I mean, check the fact-checking organizations.
00:49:35.000 The fact-checking organizations are dominated by the left.
00:49:37.000 There may be two fact-checking organizations on the right, and they're very, very small outfits.
00:49:42.000 So basically, Thomas Friedman is setting a bar that he knows that Trump will never clear, such that Biden will never have to debate him.
00:49:48.000 So that's the goal here.
00:49:49.000 The goal here is to wander through Biden, the radical left, to use Biden as the final sort of moderate elderly guys for what's coming next.
00:49:57.000 And everybody knows this, right?
00:49:58.000 Biden himself has said that he is a transitional figure.
00:50:01.000 He has said this openly.
00:50:02.000 He's the only candidate in my lifetime who's openly proclaimed that he's not running for president.
00:50:07.000 He's running to be the guy who's before the next president.
00:50:10.000 That's a pretty amazing statement, but it also happens to have a ring of truth to it.
00:50:15.000 So, all the people, this is why Trump's being off-putting is so bad for him, frankly.
00:50:23.000 Because if Trump were anything but the kind of off-putting candidate he is, there'd be a lot of people, liberals, who might be inclined to think, okay, well, I gotta think about the alternative here.
00:50:32.000 It's funny, I was talking to somebody yesterday who, again, is working inside one of these organizations that's currently experiencing the purge, and I said to him, have you thought about voting for Trump?
00:50:42.000 He said, I could never vote for Trump.
00:50:44.000 He said, I could never vote for Trump.
00:50:45.000 And I said, well, you do realize that Trump might be the last bulwark against the people who are trying to, you know, cleanse the culture.
00:50:50.000 He said, right, but I could never bring myself to vote for Trump.
00:50:52.000 And this is the biggest problem for President Trump, is that the conditions are lined up for Trump, not just to win, but to win enormous.
00:50:59.000 You've got an entire culture of people who wish to wipe out the livelihoods of an entire side of the political aisle and claim they are racist without any evidence.
00:51:08.000 And somehow Trump, the least politically correct president ever, is going to blow this?
00:51:13.000 If he does, it's one of the great political sins in American history, if that happens.
00:51:19.000 I understand that now Trump is the underdog again, and so we get to play the game where Trump is being batted about the ears by the media, and none of it's his fault.
00:51:29.000 He was always batted about the ears by the media.
00:51:31.000 That isn't his fault.
00:51:32.000 What is his fault is the fact that he's become so off-putting to so many people that the left can riot, send crime skyrocketing in every major American city, cancel everyone in the culture, including people who are just moderate liberals, and somehow he receives no political benefit from that.
00:51:49.000 I mean, that's a pretty damning indictment of how he's running his campaign.
00:51:52.000 He better turn this ship around.
00:51:53.000 He better turn it around fast.
00:51:54.000 Because it's my belief that Joe Biden is not going to be any sort of bulwark against the radical left.
00:51:58.000 And not only won't Joe Biden be a radical bulwark, I think that he is going to exacerbate the gains of the radical left by laundering their ideology into the mainstream.
00:52:08.000 And if that makes Trump's election a lot more important, not a lot less important.
00:52:13.000 So you should be upset with him if he's down 10 points at this point.
00:52:16.000 Okay, quick commentary on a piece of good news.
00:52:18.000 I may as well not say a couple pieces of good news here.
00:52:20.000 So the Supreme Court actually gave a couple of good 72 decisions yesterday.
00:52:25.000 There were two decisions on this.
00:52:28.000 One of the decisions was about the contraception mandate.
00:52:30.000 So the little sisters of the poor got dragged up again.
00:52:33.000 In front of the Supreme Court for the great sin of nuns not providing birth control in their healthcare coverage.
00:52:38.000 And 7-2, the Supreme Court said, no, they're nuns.
00:52:41.000 They can pretty much do that.
00:52:42.000 That's okay.
00:52:43.000 So according to the New York Times, the Supreme Court upheld a Trump administration regulation that lets employers with religious or moral objections limit women's access to birth control coverage under the Affordable Care Act.
00:52:54.000 Naturally, the New York Times says could result in as many as 126,000 women losing contraceptive coverage from their employers because we have to force people to violate their most dearly held principles.
00:53:04.000 I was amused to see people very, very angry at nuns yesterday.
00:53:07.000 That was pretty incredible.
00:53:09.000 Literally, this woman tweeted out, there's a picture of the nuns from Little Sisters of the Poor speaking to the press.
00:53:14.000 They said, nuns, the people that we should listen to on birth control?
00:53:16.000 I just thought, you, the person I should listen to on nuns?
00:53:20.000 So that was a good decision.
00:53:22.000 That's good.
00:53:22.000 It's good that at least sometimes you get good decisions from the Supreme Court.
00:53:25.000 The other one is a 7-2 decision in which Chief Justice Roberts sided with the court's conservatives, so did Elena Kagan and Stephen Breyer.
00:53:32.000 The two radicals on the court, like really truly radicals, are Ginsburg and Sotomayor.
00:53:35.000 They are always taking the most radical position.
00:53:38.000 The case before the court involved two Catholic schools, St.
00:53:40.000 James Catholic School and Our Lady of Guadalupe Catholic School, that dismissed employees who later sued, as Emily Zanotti writing for Daily Wire.
00:53:48.000 Religious institutions have a ministerial exemption that allows them leeway in hiring and firing and protection from employment discrimination suits.
00:53:55.000 The case before the Supreme Court tested whether there was a specific limit to the ministerial exemption.
00:53:59.000 So if you are an English teacher at a Catholic church, at a Catholic school, can you be transgender and be protected on that basis from firing, for example?
00:54:09.000 The ministerial exception says, yes, you can, because if you are working for a Catholic school, the assumption is that you're going to abide by basic Catholic principles, at least while you are in school.
00:54:18.000 Fox News reports the decision covered two cases involving teachers at religious schools who claimed that they were discriminated against.
00:54:24.000 In one, Agnes Morrissey Beru alleged that a Roman Catholic school in L.A.
00:54:27.000 did not renew her contract because of her age.
00:54:29.000 She taught a variety of subjects, including religion, but didn't have any religious training or title prior to working there.
00:54:36.000 She did take religious education classes at the school's request once she was working there and prayed with students.
00:54:41.000 In a second case, a woman named Kristen Beal claimed she was let go from another L.A.
00:54:44.000 Catholic school because she asked to take leave due to breast cancer treatments.
00:54:47.000 She too taught multiple subjects, including religion, prayed with students despite not having a formal religious title.
00:54:54.000 The Supreme Court affirmed that religious organizations have broad protection against employment discrimination suits.
00:54:59.000 Alito noted the court could not carve out loopholes to the exemptions or they would basically moot the exemption.
00:55:04.000 So this is more in line with the suggestion by my friend David French that what Justice Gorsuch was doing in the LGBT civil rights case is he was basically making it so that unless you are a church, you cannot fire people on this basis.
00:55:17.000 So if you're just a religious person in regular life, you can't fire somebody on the basis of same-sex marriage, for example.
00:55:21.000 If you are a religious organization, you can, which again is a distinction I think is really not protected by the Constitution or by the Civil Rights Act, but it's what has been called the Utah Compromise.
00:55:32.000 It's something that Utah has pressed forward with a lot of robustness in law.
00:55:36.000 Okay.
00:55:37.000 We'll be here tomorrow with a bunch of additional content, including your updates on everything COVID-related.
00:55:42.000 President Trump is now in a debate with Anthony Fauci about whether schools should reopen.
00:55:46.000 There's good evidence from Europe.
00:55:48.000 The brief story is there's good evidence from Europe that schools reopening is not endangering the kids in the schools.
00:55:52.000 The big problem is what do you do with the teachers?
00:55:54.000 The answer might be you have to hire some younger teachers.
00:55:56.000 Because if you don't want to endanger the teachers, but you also want kids to be able to go to school, which kind of is vital at this point, then you might have to just put in teachers who are less health vulnerable.
00:56:05.000 That might be a possible solution here.
00:56:06.000 We'll get to more of it tomorrow because hope it ain't going away.
00:56:09.000 So I'm sure that we'll still be talking about it tomorrow.
00:56:11.000 In the meantime, hang in there and we'll see you then.
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00:56:44.000 Joe Biden mutters incoherently, Don Lemon shows us why the left can't meme, and the Supreme Court magnanimously allows a group of nuns to pray another day.