The Ben Shapiro Show - April 16, 2019


What Notre Dame Means | Ep. 760


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50 minutes

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205.00491

Word Count

10,445

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750

Misogynist Sentences

18

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

Notre Dame burns, and the west mourns, while Bernie Sanders heads over to Fox News, and Nancy Pelosi struggles with the fresh faces. We're going to get to all of that in just one second, but first, let's talk about the burning of Notre Dame, and what it means to the people of France. Ben Shapiro's Daily Wire digs into the history of the Notre Dame Cathedral, and why it's one of the most important cathedrals in the world. And, of course, there's a brief history lesson on the cathedral, and a review of the cathedral's most famous spire and spire, which were destroyed in a massive fire that broke out in the middle of the day in the heart of the French capital, Paris, on Monday evening. Enjoy this special bonus episode of The Ben Shapiro Show, wherever you get your news and information. Subscribe to the Daily Wire to get immediate access to all our newest episodes and listen to the latest breaking news, breaking news and breaking headlines every single day. Use the promo code "UPLEVEL" to receive 20% off your first month with discount code POWER10 at checkout. ZipRecruiter is the smartest way to hire, and you'll get 10% off the entire site plus free training and support from the best recruiters in the entire world! Check out their newest product, POWER10, right here at the Dailywire. That's right, you won't want to miss it! No credit card, no fees, no strings, no swiping, no credit card required. Just paypal, no fw/online training, no spam, no insurance, just free, no questions asked, just the whole world will get it all the answers you need to get the best of it. That's what you get when you're hiring, and it's all FREE, no commitment required, no scamming, and no obligation, only the best recruiter gets it all, no more than $10, and they'll get it, no frills, no broker, no third-party marketing, no second-party, no guarantee, no fee required, just like that's all they're gonna get it anywhere else will get that'll get the whole thing, and there's gonna work it, right there's only $5, no less than $50, no matter what you say it's FREE, guaranteed, no other than that's what they say, right?


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00:00:00.000 Notre Dame burns and the West mourns, Bernie Sanders heads over to Fox News, and Nancy Pelosi struggles with the fresh faces.
00:00:06.000 I'm Ben Shapiro.
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00:00:08.000 Man, yesterday was a rough news day.
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00:01:28.000 So obviously the big news of the day yesterday was the burning down of most of Notre Dame's cathedral.
00:01:35.000 They're the outer structure was indeed saved, according to French fire services.
00:01:39.000 Sky News says flames broke out at the 12th century building on Monday evening, quickly devastating the spire and roof and sending plumes of smoke into the sky.
00:01:47.000 One fire was serious.
00:01:48.000 Firefighter was seriously injured.
00:01:50.000 Local media say police were treating the blaze as an accident.
00:01:54.000 French President Emmanuel Macron said he was so sad tonight.
00:01:56.000 to see this part of us all burn and declared a national emergency.
00:01:59.000 Speaking from the scene in Paris, he expressed sympathy with Catholics around the world following the terrible tragedy, but added that the worst had been avoided and then he vowed to launch an international fundraising campaign.
00:02:09.000 Apparently, wealthy investors have already pledged to give 100 million euros for the rebuilding of Notre Dame.
00:02:14.000 France's interior minister originally warned that the 400 firefighters scrambled to the scene would not be enough to save the cathedral, but a junior minister from the department later said they were more optimistic that the cathedral itself could be spared...
00:02:25.000 A French firefighter official confirmed that Notre Dame's structure and two towers had indeed been saved from total destruction.
00:02:31.000 Prime Minister Theresa May said her thoughts are with the people of France tonight and with the emergency services who are fighting the terrible blaze.
00:02:37.000 The video of it was just astonishing and shocking.
00:02:41.000 The area where the spire once was was still burning with sparks falling from the cathedral's vaulted ceiling as of Monday night.
00:02:47.000 People outside were singing hymns and gasping as they watched much of the cathedral burn to the ground.
00:02:54.000 The Paris mayor, Anne Hidalgo, urged the public to respect the security perimeter around the cathedral while firefighters tackled the terrible blaze, added that the areas close to the scene were evacuated.
00:03:03.000 Rich Lowry Over at National Review has a good review about what exactly Notre Dame means.
00:03:09.000 The great novelist Victor Hugo, who did so much to revive interest in the cathedral when it was in disrepair in the 19th who did so much to revive interest in the cathedral when it was in Every surface, every stone of this venerable pile is a page of the history not only of the country, but of science and art.
00:03:34.000 It was the work of generations, completed across three centuries in a triumph over considerable architectural and logistical challenges.
00:03:41.000 It arose at the original site of a pagan temple.
00:03:43.000 Thousands of tons of stone had to be transported from outside Paris, one ox cart or barge at a time, So achieve its soaring height and hold up its ceiling and walls, it relied on the architectural innovations of the rib vault and the flying buttress.
00:03:55.000 France built 80 cathedrals and 500 large churches across this period, says Rich Lowry.
00:03:59.000 There was only one at Notre Dame of Paris, a Gothic jewel, whose towers, prior to the advent of the Eiffel Tower, were the tallest structure in the city.
00:04:06.000 It is, or one hates to think was, adorned by what are culturally significant artifacts in their own right, the statuary meant to illustrate the story of the Bible and to all worshippers who couldn't read, the stained glass windows that took ingenuity to embed in stone walls and are themselves artistic marvels, the organ with more than 8,000 pipes, the bells with their own names, including the largest, the Masterpiece Emanuel, dating back to the 15th century and recast in 1681, not to mention the religious relics that mean so much to the Catholic faithful.
00:04:33.000 It has been the site of countless processions and services to petition and thank God on behalf of the French nation.
00:04:38.000 It is where illustrious marriages and funerals occurred, where Napoleon crowned himself emperor, where Charles de Gaulle attended a mass to celebrate the liberation of Paris in 1944, rifle fire echoing outside.
00:04:48.000 It survived the rampages of iconoclastic Huguenots in the 16th century, The depredation of radicals during the French Revolution into the 18th century, they transformed it into a shrine to the cult of reason, used it as a warehouse and wanted to melt down the bells, an incidental damage during two world wars in the 20th century.
00:05:03.000 All the while it accumulated layers and history and meaning.
00:05:06.000 Its great advocate Hugo, author of the famous Hunchback of Notre Dame, wrote of how, the greatest productions of architecture are not so much the work of individuals as of a community, are rather the offspring of a nation's labor than the outcome of individual genius, the deposit of a whole people, The heaped up treasure of centuries, the residuum left by successive evaporations of human society in a word, a species of formations.
00:05:26.000 Each wave of time leaves its coating of alluvium.
00:05:29.000 Each race deposits its layers on the monuments.
00:05:31.000 Each individual contributes his stone to it.
00:05:34.000 And that, of course, is exactly right.
00:05:36.000 It's amazing.
00:05:36.000 Yesterday, I tweeted something out that I thought, frankly, was really uncontroversial.
00:05:41.000 I tweeted out that Notre Dame was a totem to Western civilization and of Western civilization, and people got very upset with this.
00:05:50.000 Particularly a lot of folks on the left were very upset with this.
00:05:53.000 I tweeted out, if we wish to uphold the beauty and profundity of the Notre Dame Cathedral, that means re-familiarizing ourselves with the philosophy and religious principles that built it.
00:06:01.000 That means re-familiarizing ourselves with the precepts of Catholicism, with Western history, with what Catholicism was, with how it contributed to the West.
00:06:12.000 All of this stuff seems deeply important to me.
00:06:14.000 This became very controversial.
00:06:16.000 A lot of folks on the left were very upset with me for suggesting this.
00:06:19.000 They said, why can't we just appreciate it just as a piece of art?
00:06:23.000 You can appreciate it however you want, but if you want to know why so many people in the West were deeply affected by the burning of Notre Dame, it wasn't just because it was iconic, it's because Notre Dame holds deeper meaning.
00:06:33.000 Because it is a totem of a chain of history that culminates in the modern West.
00:06:38.000 That's why Notre Dame means something different than just any building anywhere on Earth burning, than the Taj Mahal burning, for example, which would be, of course, a phenomenal tragedy, but would not have quite the same resonance in the Western mind as Notre Dame burning, of course.
00:06:53.000 And you can see the sort of anodyne version of mourning for the cathedral from Ilhan Omar.
00:06:59.000 Who, of course, is no big fan of Western civilization.
00:07:01.000 I mean, she said so.
00:07:02.000 She says America was founded on slavery and genocide.
00:07:04.000 I can only assume she means that the rest of the West was as well.
00:07:06.000 She tweeted out, Art and architecture have a unique ability to help us connect across our differences and bring people together in important ways, thinking of the people of Paris and praying for every first responder trying to save this wonder.
00:07:17.000 Again, it's fine to look at Notre Dame as just art and architecture, but it has deeper resonance than that.
00:07:22.000 And that was the point that I was making, is that the deeper resonance of Notre Dame is about the faith that inspired Notre Dame.
00:07:28.000 And listen, this is coming from a Jew.
00:07:30.000 This is coming from an Orthodox Jew.
00:07:32.000 Notre Dame apparently had certain statues that are anti-Semitic in nature, talking about the supersession of the Catholic Church over Jews in the past.
00:07:41.000 That's important to remember.
00:07:42.000 It's also important to remember that Notre Dame is, again, a historical monument to the chain of history of which we are a part.
00:07:50.000 I wrote an entire book about this.
00:07:51.000 My book, The Right Side of History, talks about this chain of history, the Judeo-Christian history of the West.
00:07:57.000 And how Judaism and Christianity combined with Greek reason in play and intention created the world in which we live.
00:08:04.000 I want to read you a section from the book talking about the period during which Notre Dame was built.
00:08:08.000 Notre Dame, of course, was built during the 12th and 13th centuries.
00:08:11.000 It took a couple of centuries to complete, which in and of itself is an amazing testament to the human mind and to the power of the eternal to inspire the human mind.
00:08:19.000 Because after all, why plant a tree if you're not going to get to sit in its shade?
00:08:22.000 Why build a building if you know that you're not going to get to complete it?
00:08:24.000 Because our task is not to complete the building.
00:08:27.000 Our task is to join in the building of that structure in the first place.
00:08:31.000 Here's what I talk about in my book with regard to this period in Western history.
00:08:34.000 From the fall of Rome through the 12th century, Christianity would spread from its base in the Italian peninsula to the British Isles, France, Germany, and eventually the Nordic countries as well.
00:08:43.000 While Augustine had posited a great divide between the city of God and the city of man, The Catholic Church was quite active in the City of Man.
00:08:50.000 The Church received tithes from Christians the continent over, had its own ecclesiastical courts.
00:08:54.000 By the 10th century, the Church was the single largest landowner in Western Europe.
00:08:58.000 Kings found their legitimacy through the conduit of the Church and battled with the Church to expand their own power.
00:09:03.000 Holy Roman Emperor Henry IV walked barefoot in the snow to earn back the approval of Pope Gregory VII, Henry II of England, 1133 to 1189 had himself flogged in order to win back the approval of his Christian population after accidentally ordering the death of Archbishop Thomas Becket.
00:09:18.000 Popular history maintains that this period represents the Dark Ages, but that's simply inaccurate.
00:09:23.000 Progress continued as Christianity spread.
00:09:25.000 The monastic system centralized learning in monasteries, where priests and nuns devoted themselves to ascetic pursuit of divine understanding.
00:09:32.000 In educational terms, this devotion revolved around Scripture.
00:09:36.000 The Benedictine monks, for example, lived under the rules created by St.
00:09:38.000 Benedictine 480-547, a set of orders regarding the hierarchy of monasteries, the behavior by which to abide, and the requirements of work.
00:09:46.000 The arts thrived in the monastic system.
00:09:48.000 Manuscripts were preserved by monks devoted to writing new copies and beautifying them.
00:09:52.000 In the monastic system, the liberal arts taught by the Greeks and the Romans, as championed by Cicero and Seneca, among others, survived, albeit in spiritualized form.
00:10:01.000 Augustine himself, despite his distaste for paganism, suggested that the liberal arts education could be hijacked for service to God.
00:10:07.000 Augustine likened such cultural appropriation to the Jews taking Egyptian gold during the biblical exodus.
00:10:13.000 These liberal arts were categorized by the philosopher Boethius into the famous quadrivarium, music, arithmetic, geometry, and astronomy, and trivium, grammar, rhetoric, and logic.
00:10:22.000 Meanwhile, The Middle Ages saw a technological revolution in agriculture, the rise of commerce, the institution of new forms of art ranging from polyphonic music to Gothic architecture.
00:10:32.000 Notre Dame would be a perfect example of Gothic architecture.
00:10:35.000 It also saw new developments in the art of war, with technological developments that would allow the West to defeat its enemies in the course of coming centuries.
00:10:41.000 While many historians tout the power of Islamic civilization during this time period, and Islamic civilization did thrive on the Arabian Peninsula particularly, when Islamic civilization came up against Western civilization at the Battle of Tours, Islamic forces were soundly defeated.
00:10:55.000 By the 8th century, Christian leaders were crusading against enslavement, except notably for the enslavement of Muslim war captives.
00:11:01.000 Monasteries were engaging in proto-capitalism as well.
00:11:04.000 Furthermore, the Catholic Church was responsible for learning and teaching.
00:11:07.000 Virtually all literacy sprang from monasteries.
00:11:10.000 Still, the modern world could not have been created under these circumstances, is what I write in my book.
00:11:15.000 Faith provided individual moral purpose.
00:11:17.000 Faith provided collective moral purpose.
00:11:19.000 But while individual capacity was bolstered by the doctrinal belief in free will and the value of work, reason had been made secondary to faith.
00:11:26.000 While collective capacity was bolstered by the presence of a strong social fabric, the all-encompassing power of the Catholic Church and the rule of monarchs meant that individual choice was heavily circumscribed.
00:11:36.000 Even education had been radically reoriented toward the Church.
00:11:39.000 All true knowledge lay in the Bible.
00:11:40.000 The liberal arts were only useful so far as they bolstered the biblical story.
00:11:44.000 For science and democracy to take hold in the West, reason would have to be elevated once more.
00:11:48.000 In a second, I'm going to explain how the reintroduction of reason did happen in the West and within the Catholic Church.
00:11:54.000 Again, reorienting ourselves to this history means that Notre Dame means so much more to us because we look at it and it means something beyond just a beautiful building.
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00:13:26.000 So we're talking about the history of Western civilization and where Catholicism, where Notre Dame fits into that history because it means more to us when we watch that building burn than just a building burning.
00:13:37.000 So I've been talking about the dominance of the Catholic Church and the reintroduction of reason to balance out the faith orientation of Catholicism.
00:13:47.000 That process began, I write in my book, The Right Side of History, with the reintroduction of Greek reason to the West in the 11th century.
00:13:53.000 Christianity, comfortable now in its dominance, could afford more exploratory thinking when it came to secular learning.
00:13:58.000 This bred a new movement called Scholasticism, and that movement encouraged Christians to extend the prominence of God's dominance over all of the areas of human knowledge.
00:14:06.000 Scholasticism would open the door for a renewed investigation into the unity between God and His created universe, and between faith and reason.
00:14:13.000 Leading Scholastic, Hugh of St.
00:14:14.000 Victor, 1096-1141, famously said, He followed through on his own injunction by attempting to write a book that covered the gamut of human knowledge known as the Summa.
00:14:26.000 Scholasticism became the dominant philosophy of the church.
00:14:29.000 The church launched a program of support for universities, the University of Paris, also known as the Sarbanes, the University of Bologna, the University of Oxford.
00:14:36.000 As Thomas E. Woods Jr.
00:14:37.000 writes, the church provided special protection to university students by offering them what was known as benefit of clergy.
00:14:43.000 The popes intervened on behalf of the university on numerous occasions.
00:14:47.000 And then, the Christian world moved into Thomism under Thomas Aquinas.
00:14:52.000 So, the bottom line here, and the reason that I'm recounting this history, is because if we don't reorient ourselves to this history, why are these buildings important?
00:14:59.000 They're just buildings after all.
00:15:00.000 Sure, they're beautiful, but they are more than beautiful.
00:15:02.000 They're testaments to an ongoing battle between faith and reason that has bred the West And that battle has had victims.
00:15:09.000 That battle has had people who have suffered, for sure.
00:15:11.000 But that does not change the story of the West.
00:15:14.000 We are part of that great river of history.
00:15:16.000 And that's why when we see something from our past burned to the ground like that, it's devastating to everybody involved.
00:15:23.000 Okay, meanwhile, speaking of people who don't know their history, so Bernie Sanders has apparently taken the lead in a new Emerson poll in the Democratic 2020 race.
00:15:32.000 Mayor Pete is on the move as well.
00:15:34.000 He's up to 9%.
00:15:35.000 He's getting all sorts of glowing media attention right now.
00:15:37.000 And of course, people are very, very excited about the fact that he speaks French.
00:15:41.000 So yesterday, while Notre Dame was burning, they asked him for a comment, and then he gave comments in French, which is cool.
00:15:46.000 John Kerry could do it as well.
00:15:47.000 So can Melania Trump, I guess.
00:15:50.000 I guess that's neat for what it's worth.
00:15:52.000 In any case, Bernie Sanders has taken the temporary lead and people are concerned in the Democratic Party that his win in the nominating process will mean, I guess, the end of the chances to stop Donald Trump.
00:16:06.000 And this has led to the New York Times actually writing a full piece about it in which they talk about how terrible it would be if it were to be that Bernie Sanders, if he would win the nomination, how terrible all of this would be.
00:16:22.000 So, the New York Times suggests that there is a new group that is out there fighting Bernie Sanders.
00:16:27.000 Quote, When Leah Dautry, a former Democratic Party official, addressed a closed-door gathering of about 100 wealthy liberal donors in San Francisco last month, all it took was a review of the 2020 primary rules to throw a scare into them.
00:16:39.000 Democrats are likely to go into their convention next summer without having settled on a presidential nominee, says Ms.
00:16:44.000 Dautry, who ran her party's conventions in 2008 and 2016.
00:16:47.000 the last two times the nomination was contested.
00:16:49.000 And Senator Bernie Sanders is well positioned to be one of the last candidates standing, she noted.
00:16:53.000 I think I freaked them out, said Ms. Daughtry.
00:16:55.000 From Knapp-filled fundraisers on the coast to the cloakrooms of Washington, mainstream Democrats are increasingly worried that their efforts to defeat President Trump in 2020 could be complicated by Sanders in a political scenario all too reminiscent of how Trump himself seized the Republican nomination in 2016.
00:17:11.000 Well, this is what I have been saying here on the program for months, is that Bernie Sanders is in fact well positioned to do serious damage in the Democratic primaries.
00:17:19.000 Why?
00:17:19.000 Well, because he's got somewhere between 25 and 30 percent of the vote and it is a very solid 25 to 30 percent.
00:17:25.000 Everybody else is moving around.
00:17:26.000 Beto's been bouncing around between 8 and 12.
00:17:28.000 Biden has been bouncing around anywhere between 35 and 25.
00:17:30.000 Bernie Sanders is incredibly stable.
00:17:34.000 And Joe Biden is going to get torn down as the frontrunner.
00:17:37.000 And everybody in the Democratic Party feels the need to pay homage to Bernie Sanders in much the same way that many in the Republican Party felt the need to pay homage to President Trump because Trump was in fact this deeply popular figure.
00:17:48.000 An extraordinarily famous to boot.
00:17:50.000 Republicans basically ignored Trump during the 2016 election cycle, thinking, this can't last, the guy's gotta collapse.
00:17:56.000 And when he collapses, for sure his support will go to me.
00:17:58.000 This was the strategy of both Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz.
00:18:01.000 It's why they ignored Trump and went after each other.
00:18:03.000 Of course, Trump lasted the test of time, and the other candidates did not.
00:18:06.000 You can see very much the same thing here happening with Bernie Sanders.
00:18:09.000 If you attack Bernie, the Bernie bros come after you.
00:18:11.000 If you leave Bernie alone and you go after Joe Biden and you try to cannibalize his support, then perhaps you're able to pick up support in spite of Bernie Sanders.
00:18:18.000 But that means that Bernie Sanders is still standing.
00:18:21.000 And this is freaking out the Democratic bigwigs.
00:18:24.000 The New York Times reports how some Democrats are beginning to ask do they thwart a 70-something candidate from outside the party structure who is immune to intimidation or incentive and wield support from an unwavering base without simply reinforcing his, the establishment is out to get me message, the same grievance that Trump used to great effect.
00:18:40.000 Stopping Sanders, or at least preventing a contentious convention, could prove difficult for Democrats.
00:18:45.000 He has enormous financial advantages.
00:18:46.000 He's already substantially outraising his Democratic rivals.
00:18:49.000 He is well positioned to benefit from a historically large field of candidates that would splinter the vote.
00:18:54.000 And he'd pick up a formidable number of delegates for the nomination because there are no superdelegates this time.
00:18:59.000 That prospect is not only spooking establishment-aligned Democrats, it's also creating tensions about what, if anything, should be done to halt Sanders.
00:19:07.000 There's a Never Sanders movement that apparently is cropping up among Democrats.
00:19:10.000 Some in the party still harbor anger over the 2016 race when he ran against Hillary Clinton and his ongoing resistance to becoming a Democrat.
00:19:17.000 But his critics are chiefly motivated by a fear that nominating an avowed socialist would all but ensure President Trump a second term.
00:19:23.000 David Brock, who is a Clintonista hack, he's the founder of Media Matters, he says there's a growing realization that Sanders could end up winning this thing, or certainly that he stays in so long he damages the actual winner.
00:19:36.000 He has had discussions with other operatives about an anti-Sanders campaign.
00:19:39.000 He believes it should commence sooner rather than later.
00:19:41.000 Man, the bloodbath in this primary is going to be amusing to watch from the right and horrifying to watch if you're on the left.
00:19:47.000 R.T.
00:19:47.000 Reibach, the former Minneapolis mayor, who was vice chairman of the DNC in 2016, complained bitterly about the party's tilt toward Mrs. Clinton back then, warned that it would backfire if his fellow mainstream Democrats start with the idea that you're going to try to stop somebody.
00:20:00.000 If the party fractures again, or if we even have anybody raising an eyebrow of, I'm not happy about this, we're going to lose.
00:20:05.000 And they'll have this loss on their hands.
00:20:06.000 So now, the never-Sanders movement is getting pilloried by the pro-Sanders movement as people who will be responsible if Trump wins re-election.
00:20:14.000 All of this sounds very familiar.
00:20:17.000 Mr. Sanders' populist agenda is exactly what the country needs, and he has proved his mettle.
00:20:25.000 The good news for his foes is that his polling is down significantly in early nominating states from 2016.
00:20:28.000 He is viewed more negatively among Democrats than many of his top rivals.
00:20:32.000 He has already publicly vowed to support the party's nominee if he falls short.
00:20:37.000 I'm not sure that matters.
00:20:37.000 If you recall, President Trump's negatives were much higher than his opponents, and he cruised to the nomination on the back of 35 to 40 percent support.
00:20:44.000 It started off at 25 to 30, and then it grew to 30 to 35, and by the end, he was winning 35 to 40 percent in all of the major nominating contests.
00:20:53.000 Sanders is already sending blistering letters to his enemies.
00:20:56.000 He sent a blistering letter to the Center for American Progress, which is a Clintonista outfit, accusing them of playing a destructive role in democratic politics and being beholden to the corporate money they receive.
00:21:07.000 He's also trying to woo a lot of veteran party strategists in places like Iowa.
00:21:11.000 Tads Vine is Sanders' longtime strategist.
00:21:14.000 He says, if anybody thinks Bernie Sanders is incapable of doing politics, they haven't seen him in Congress for 30 years.
00:21:19.000 No, what we've seen is a guy who actually hasn't gotten anything done, but he has maintained his spot.
00:21:23.000 And that's all he really has to do.
00:21:25.000 So Democrats are starting to get very, very nervous.
00:21:27.000 Very nervous.
00:21:29.000 The matter of what to do about Bernie and the larger imperative of party unity has, for example, hovered over a series of previously undisclosed Democratic dinners in New York and Washington, organized by longtime party financier Bernard Schwartz.
00:21:40.000 The gatherings have included scorers from the moderate or center-left wing of the party, including Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senator Chuck Schumer, former Governor Terry McAuliffe of Virginia, Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Indiana, and the president of the Center for American Progress, Mira Tandon.
00:21:54.000 He did us a disservice in the last election, said Mr. Schwartz, a longtime Clinton supporter who said he's going to support Biden.
00:21:59.000 Man, if I had to lay money right now, I'd be hard-pressed not to lay it on Bernie, considering the fanaticism of the people who support him and the fact that Democrats have no strategy for stopping him.
00:22:10.000 In a second, we'll show you that Bernie Sanders went on Fox News last night.
00:22:12.000 It was kind of interesting.
00:22:13.000 We'll get to that in a second.
00:22:15.000 It can be a little frustrating, especially if you're in a hurry or running late, to find yourself at a railway crossing waiting for a train.
00:22:21.000 If the signals are going and the train's not even there yet, you could feel a bit tempted to try and sneak across the tracks.
00:22:26.000 Do not do this.
00:22:27.000 Ever.
00:22:28.000 This is a stupid and bad idea.
00:22:29.000 Trains are often going a lot faster than you expect them to be, and they cannot stop.
00:22:33.000 Even if the engineer hits the brakes right away, it can take the train over a mile to stop.
00:22:36.000 By that time, what used to be your car is just a crushed hunk of metal.
00:22:39.000 What used to be you, well, Then you got a problem.
00:22:43.000 The point is, you can't know how quickly the train will arrive.
00:22:45.000 The train can't stop, even if it sees you, and the result is disaster.
00:22:48.000 If the signals are on, the train is on its way.
00:22:50.000 Just remember, one thing, you can stop, trains cannot.
00:22:54.000 Go check, make sure that you, please, for God's sake.
00:22:58.000 Don't run train crossings.
00:23:00.000 My goodness.
00:23:01.000 It's just a huge, huge mistake.
00:23:03.000 It's amazing that people think they can do this.
00:23:04.000 I mean, there are a number of deaths every year from people who think that they can just cross a train crossing in the middle of a signal and that everything will be hunky-dory.
00:23:13.000 That's not the way this works.
00:23:14.000 So be smart.
00:23:15.000 Stop because the trains can't.
00:23:16.000 All right.
00:23:17.000 So Bernie Sanders.
00:23:19.000 He was on Fox News last night, and while he was on Fox News, he basically laid out his agenda, which is, you're gonna pay more.
00:23:26.000 You're gonna spend a lot of money.
00:23:27.000 So he's asked about healthcare, and he says, yeah, my agenda is, you're going to be, he's with Brett Baier and Martha McCallum.
00:23:32.000 He says, yeah, you know, you're gonna, it'll cost more money from your pocket.
00:23:35.000 Let's just say hypothetically, you are self-employed and you've got a husband and two kids, family of four.
00:23:43.000 Do you know how much that family is paying today for health care?
00:23:46.000 How much?
00:23:47.000 $28,000 a year.
00:23:47.000 We're spending $11,000 per person.
00:23:51.000 We are saying to that family of four, you ain't gonna pay that $28,000.
00:23:54.000 You're not paying any more premiums.
00:23:57.000 You're not paying any more copayments.
00:23:59.000 You're not paying any more deductibles.
00:24:01.000 How's that?
00:24:01.000 $28,000 you're not paying.
00:24:03.000 But, does that mean you're not gonna pay something?
00:24:05.000 Of course it does.
00:24:06.000 You're gonna pay more in taxes.
00:24:08.000 Okay, you're going to pay more in taxes.
00:24:09.000 I love that he says it costs you $28,000.
00:24:11.000 Your employer is paying that.
00:24:13.000 So your employer is presumably not going to pay for your health insurance anymore.
00:24:16.000 And that means that your pay is presumably going to be cut.
00:24:19.000 So your top line pay is going to be cut.
00:24:21.000 And then you're going to pay a lot more in taxes.
00:24:23.000 Now, how much more in taxes?
00:24:24.000 A lot more in taxes.
00:24:25.000 Because the fact is that if you want to pay more in taxes, a nationalized healthcare system is the best way to do it.
00:24:30.000 There's a reason.
00:24:31.000 The Nordic countries all have tax rates kicking in at anywhere.
00:24:35.000 In Norway, it's 36% because of the giant oil slush fund.
00:24:38.000 But in other places like Denmark, you've got top tax brackets kicking in at like 50 to 60% if you make $60,000 a year.
00:24:44.000 That's what Sanders is talking about.
00:24:46.000 It's funny that nobody ever asks him a follow-up.
00:24:48.000 Like, what kind of tax rates are you talking about and at what level will they kick in?
00:24:52.000 Nobody asks him that because it would be awkward for him to answer.
00:24:55.000 In any case, Sanders then continued.
00:24:56.000 He said, listen, health care isn't free.
00:24:58.000 Except that he keeps promising everybody it's going to be free.
00:25:00.000 So there's that.
00:25:02.000 It will drive up taxes to pay for health care.
00:25:05.000 And not just the wealthy will pay for that.
00:25:06.000 The middle class will also pay for it.
00:25:08.000 Very good.
00:25:09.000 So how do you justify it?
00:25:11.000 Martha, what are you not including in your discussion?
00:25:15.000 You tell me.
00:25:15.000 I will tell you.
00:25:16.000 You're not going to pay any health insurance premiums.
00:25:19.000 Let's hear it.
00:25:23.000 Okay, it's free at the point when you use it.
00:25:25.000 That's idiotic.
00:25:26.000 I mean, that means it's not free.
00:25:27.000 Look, healthcare is not free.
00:25:29.000 You never heard me suggest that we're going to marginally...
00:25:31.000 You just said it was going to be free for everyone.
00:25:33.000 It's going to be free at the point of when you use it.
00:25:36.000 Okay, it's free at the point when you use it.
00:25:38.000 That's idiotic.
00:25:39.000 I mean, that means it's not free.
00:25:40.000 So if I pay a subscription fee to go to Daily Wire, it is then free when I click on Daily Wire.
00:25:47.000 It is not free because I am paying the subscription fee.
00:25:50.000 If I pay taxes for something, that makes it not free.
00:25:53.000 I love that Bernie Sanders has been getting away with this for a while.
00:25:55.000 Martha McCallum calls him on this, and Sanders simply falls apart.
00:25:59.000 This wasn't the only point at which Sanders fell apart.
00:26:01.000 The most amusing point at which Sanders fell apart is he was asked, okay, you know, Bernie, you make a lot of money, and he does.
00:26:06.000 He's been making about a million dollars a year for the last several years.
00:26:09.000 And he was asked specifically, OK, well, you know, you could just pay extra taxes.
00:26:13.000 So why aren't you paying the extra taxes?
00:26:15.000 And Bernie Sanders had no good answer to this, because, of course, if you are a socialist and you want the government to have more money, you could do this.
00:26:21.000 Your taxes do show that you're a millionaire.
00:26:24.000 You did make a million in 2016, 2017.
00:26:26.000 You're right to 561 in 2018.
00:26:29.000 But your marginal tax rate was 26 percent because of President Trump's tax cuts.
00:26:34.000 So why not say, you know, I'm leading this revolution.
00:26:36.000 I'm not going to take those.
00:26:41.000 Come on.
00:26:45.000 I pay the taxes that I owe.
00:26:47.000 And by the way, why don't you get Donald Trump up here and ask him how much he pays in taxes?
00:26:52.000 I really will.
00:26:53.000 Would you be willing to pay 52% on the money that you made?
00:26:56.000 You can volunteer.
00:26:57.000 You can send a check.
00:26:58.000 You can volunteer too.
00:26:59.000 We have a... But you suggested, you suggested that that's what everybody in your bracket should do.
00:27:06.000 Martha, why don't you give?
00:27:08.000 You make more money than I do.
00:27:09.000 I didn't suggest a wealth tax.
00:27:11.000 And she's not running for president.
00:27:12.000 And I'm not running for president.
00:27:13.000 Okay, it's hilarious to me that Bernie Sanders is saying to Martha McCallum, well why don't you pay more in taxes?
00:27:18.000 Why don't you?
00:27:20.000 She asked you because you say that everyone should and she has not said that.
00:27:23.000 That's the thing.
00:27:25.000 It's amazing.
00:27:25.000 I love the Bernie bros in the audience who are just like, yeah Bernie!
00:27:28.000 Saying Martha McCallum should pay more taxes!
00:27:31.000 She's not running for president.
00:27:33.000 She did not suggest a wealth tax.
00:27:35.000 You did.
00:27:36.000 So he's running away from the implications of his own program because this is what all socialists do in the end.
00:27:41.000 They sort of like their lifestyle, and they don't want to sacrifice it, but they do want to seem as though they care a lot about government expenditures and tax rates.
00:27:50.000 The voluntary minimum is what you pay when you pay taxes.
00:27:53.000 That is the minimum that you pay or the government comes and gets you.
00:27:57.000 You can always sign a check for more.
00:27:58.000 Bernie Sanders is not doing that.
00:28:00.000 Bernie Sanders is incredibly radical.
00:28:02.000 He made that clear last night.
00:28:03.000 He was talking about abortion.
00:28:04.000 He suggested that aborting babies until birth would be a worthwhile goal.
00:28:08.000 And then he suggested it was sexism to believe otherwise.
00:28:11.000 With regard to abortion, do you believe that a woman should be able to terminate a pregnancy up until the moment of birth?
00:28:17.000 Look, I think that that happens very, very rarely.
00:28:20.000 And I think this is being made into a political issue.
00:28:25.000 So I think it's rare.
00:28:27.000 It's being made into a political issue.
00:28:28.000 But at the end of the day, I believe that the decision over abortion belongs to a woman and a physician, not the federal government, not the state government.
00:28:41.000 It's being made into a political issue.
00:28:43.000 Now, it was funny.
00:28:43.000 A lot of the commentators yesterday were noting, wow, look how on Fox News people are cheering for Bernie.
00:28:48.000 Yeah, who do you think shows up to a Bernie town hall?
00:28:50.000 You think a bunch of right-wingers show up to a Bernie town hall?
00:28:53.000 It's a bunch of Bernie fans.
00:28:54.000 So listen, it was very smart of Bernie to appear on Fox News.
00:28:57.000 It made him look good.
00:28:58.000 It made him look as though he was willing to take hard questions from people outside his own party, which apparently nobody else in his party is willing to do.
00:29:05.000 And Bernie's populism does have some crossover with Trumpian populism.
00:29:10.000 It does.
00:29:11.000 And this is how you end up with a situation in which Bret Baier pulled the audience on Medicare for All, and people cheered, and the media were like, oh my god, people in a Fox News audience cheering for Bernie?
00:29:19.000 Yeah, they're Bernie fans.
00:29:20.000 That's why they're there.
00:29:21.000 They're there because they like Bernie.
00:29:23.000 Who shows up to a Bernie town hall unless you like him?
00:29:25.000 This audience has a lot of Democrats in it.
00:29:27.000 It has Republicans, Independents, Democratic Socialists, Conservatives.
00:29:33.000 I want to ask the audience a question, if you could raise your hand here.
00:29:37.000 A show of hands of how many people get their insurance from work, private insurance, right now.
00:29:43.000 How many get it from private insurance?
00:29:45.000 Okay, now of those, how many are willing to transition to what the Senator says, a government-run system?
00:29:54.000 A raucous applause from the same people who are applauding all night.
00:29:56.000 And again, it was very funny to watch disingenuous people in the media saying, look at that Fox News audience cheering Bernie.
00:30:02.000 Now he's popular among Fox News audience.
00:30:04.000 Yeah, sure.
00:30:05.000 I'm sure that's what happened right there.
00:30:07.000 I'll show you the rest of Bernie Sanders's radical pitch.
00:30:09.000 He has no actual...
00:30:11.000 On-the-ground hard policy suggestions that are anywhere close to reasonable.
00:30:14.000 But that's not what Democrats are looking for these days.
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00:32:31.000 Worthwhile pointing out at this point that Bernie Sanders has indeed released his tax returns.
00:32:41.000 And what they show is that he has not given an extraordinary amount of charity total.
00:32:46.000 And that's nothing new.
00:32:48.000 Many Democrats do not give an enormous amount of charity.
00:32:50.000 The dirty little secret about charity is that as charitable as Democrats pretend to be when they are seizing the money from your pocket, it is Republicans who are giving the vast majority of charity on a per capita basis.
00:33:00.000 It's really, it's really astonishing.
00:33:03.000 So Bernie Sanders apparently gave something like $10,000 the first year that he made a million bucks.
00:33:08.000 He gave like $10,000.
00:33:09.000 The second year he gave something like $36,000, which is not too bad, but this is not supremely shocking.
00:33:16.000 Apparently, according to the Washington Post, Bernie Sanders and his wife gave $19,000 to charity out of an income of $566,000 last year, or 3.4%.
00:33:22.000 Kamala Harris released 15 years of her tax returns on Sunday.
00:33:25.000 She and her husband earned $1.9 million last year.
00:33:27.000 of her tax returns on Sunday.
00:33:29.000 She and her husband earned $1.9 million last year.
00:33:31.000 They gave 27 grand to charity, 1.4%, and she gave no charity at all during her first three years as California's Attorney General.
00:33:39.000 Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and her husband donated about $6,000, $6,600, of their $340,000 income to charity last year.
00:33:44.000 It's about 2%.
00:33:44.000 Kirsten Gillibrand made $215,000 last year and gave $3,700 to charity.
00:33:46.000 The most generous was Senator Elizabeth Warren.
00:33:48.000 Kirsten Gillibrand made 215 grand last year and gave 3,700 bucks to charity.
00:33:52.000 The most generous was Senator Elizabeth Warren.
00:33:55.000 She gave about $50,000 last year of their $906,000 income.
00:33:59.000 Jay Inslee and his wife, who recently released 12 years of returns, They earned an income of $203,000 in 2018 and gave out $8,000 to charity.
00:34:10.000 Now, who exactly has been extremely charitable?
00:34:13.000 Well, Mitt Romney was extremely charitable.
00:34:14.000 In 2012, when he finally released his tax returns, it showed that he and his wife had given away $4 million out of the $13.7 million they took in during the previous year.
00:34:24.000 Almost 30% of what they earned that year, they gave away in charity.
00:34:28.000 By the way, speaking of charitable people, Barack and Michelle Obama gave away 22% of their income to charity in 2011.
00:34:32.000 They donated $172,000 out of $790,000.
00:34:33.000 You know who is particularly stingy?
00:34:34.000 and they donated 172 grand out of 790 grand.
00:34:37.000 You know who is particularly stingy?
00:34:38.000 Joe and Joe Biden.
00:34:40.000 They give 1.5% of their income to charity, about 50%.
00:34:43.000 And in 2008, you'll remember that Joe Biden released in 10 years, over the past 10 years, he had given over 10 years, $3,700 to charity, an average of $369 a year.
00:34:48.000 that Joe Biden released in 10 years, over the past 10 years, he had given over 10 years, 3,700 bucks to charity, an average of $369 a year.
00:34:58.000 So really ramping up that spending.
00:35:00.000 It's always fun to, it is always fun to see how much money Democrats actually give to charity as opposed to the supposed charitable mindset that they employ.
00:35:11.000 And you saw that again when you see Bernie Sanders scoffing at paying extra taxes and suggesting that Martha McCallum should because she's rich too.
00:35:17.000 And then the Bernie bros idiotically cheering along, yay!
00:35:21.000 Pretty amazing.
00:35:22.000 Bernie Sanders, by the way, is as radical as radical gets.
00:35:24.000 And most of his plans don't have any on-the-ground actual Teeth to them because they're never going to be implemented.
00:35:31.000 He has to get all this stuff through Congress.
00:35:32.000 So, for example, Sanders was asked about the situation along the border and he suggested we should build housing along the border for illegals, but the Democratic Party just rejected funding for that stuff.
00:35:43.000 If you were the President of the United States, we have overflowing facilities.
00:35:48.000 They need to go somewhere because they're in that asylum process.
00:35:51.000 Where would you put them?
00:35:52.000 What about building proper facilities for them right now?
00:35:55.000 That could be done right on the border.
00:35:58.000 So the people who live on the border should have more facilities in their states, but sanctuary cities which have said they're open to accepting people should not take more.
00:36:06.000 Now this is a political act on the President.
00:36:08.000 No, it's not.
00:36:08.000 It's a real question.
00:36:09.000 No, it's not a real question.
00:36:10.000 Yes, it is.
00:36:11.000 It's a political decision.
00:36:13.000 Okay, it's a political decision, it's not a spending decision, except the Democrats have not provided the funding.
00:36:19.000 Trump has been asking for billions of dollars in funding so that he can increase the number of beds.
00:36:22.000 This was the specific immigration fight that just took place.
00:36:25.000 Trump said, we need more money for beds on the border.
00:36:27.000 Democrats, including Bernie Sanders, said no.
00:36:30.000 And then Bernie Sanders is pitching, let's build more housing along the border for illegal immigrants.
00:36:34.000 I mean, he's just he's incoherent.
00:36:36.000 The fact that he is leading is a result of the stupid radicalism of a segment of the Democratic base that has no real relationship with reality.
00:36:44.000 And that's the funniest part about all of this is that there are leaders in the Democratic Party looking at this askance and going, this is insane.
00:36:51.000 I mean, Bernie Sanders, by the way, it is worth noting he's a radical on foreign policy, too.
00:36:56.000 He said that Ilhan Omar was not anti-Semitic.
00:36:59.000 Why?
00:36:59.000 She's just anti-Israel.
00:37:01.000 Never mind she hasn't actually critiqued any of Israel's policies.
00:37:03.000 She has just suggested that Israel hypnotized the world, that pro-Israel Jewish money was behind American support of Israel, and she suggested dual loyalty of people who support Israel.
00:37:14.000 But according to Bernie Sanders, that's just a critique of Israel.
00:37:17.000 Is not anti-Semitic to be critical of a right-wing government in Israel.
00:37:22.000 That is not anti-Semitic, okay?
00:37:26.000 Okay, that is not anti-Semitic.
00:37:27.000 However, you know what is also not anti-Islamic?
00:37:29.000 Opposing Ilhan Omar's radicalism.
00:37:32.000 That's not anti-Islamic, Bernie Sanders.
00:37:34.000 Well, all of this is handing a very large club to President Trump to wield against the Democrats, and they know it.
00:37:40.000 President Trump, yesterday on the campaign trail, he said, listen, socialism?
00:37:44.000 You know what that is?
00:37:44.000 That's a method to get to the poorhouse.
00:37:47.000 The numbers of blue-collar jobs have recently grown the fastest rate in more than 31 years.
00:37:54.000 So that's, you know, what we're talking about.
00:37:57.000 They can talk all they want about socialism.
00:37:59.000 All socialism is a method into the poorhouse.
00:38:03.000 You know, socialism is not so easy to beat when an economy is really doing well like ours.
00:38:09.000 We probably have the best economy.
00:38:10.000 We may have the best economy we've ever had.
00:38:13.000 Okay, he is right about all of that.
00:38:14.000 He is also right that socialism, in the end, is going to be rejected by the American people.
00:38:18.000 How do we know this?
00:38:19.000 Because even top Democrats recognize this.
00:38:21.000 So Nancy Pelosi has been having a very, very difficult time here because she knows that her own base loves the radical talk, but very few of them actually want the policy.
00:38:30.000 So she has been desperately attempting to fend off all of the radicals inside her own party.
00:38:35.000 This is why she speaks disparagingly About members of her own party.
00:38:39.000 This is why in an interview yesterday with Leslie Stahl on 60 Minutes, she suggested that there were just five, there were five radicals in the Democratic Party.
00:38:47.000 She specifically said that AOC, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, she said that those like five people.
00:38:54.000 And then when she was asked, well, they're the progressives, aren't they?
00:38:56.000 She said, no, I'm the progressive.
00:38:57.000 Right now there's a battle for the soul of the Democratic Party.
00:39:00.000 Are they going to be Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer progressives?
00:39:02.000 Or are they going to be open radicals like Bernie Sanders, AOC, Ilhan Omar, and that ilk?
00:39:07.000 So here's Nancy Pelosi yesterday rejecting socialism, saying, listen, I'm not in favor of socialism.
00:39:12.000 Medicare for all, it's not only being pushed by some members of your caucus, but also some of the presidential candidates.
00:39:20.000 And it is allowing the president to say you're all socialists.
00:39:24.000 Do you know that when we did, when Medicare was done by the Congress at the time, under Lyndon Johnson, Ronald Reagan said, Medicare will lead us to a socialist dictatorship.
00:39:34.000 This is an ongoing theme of the Republicans.
00:39:37.000 However, I do reject socialism as an economic system.
00:39:42.000 If people have that view, that's their view.
00:39:44.000 That is not the view of the Democratic Party.
00:39:47.000 Well, she's going to have to fend off people like AOC, who is in fact a socialist.
00:39:51.000 She's a member of the Democratic Socialists of America.
00:39:53.000 And that group explicitly says that they reject the profit motive.
00:39:58.000 So Nancy Pelosi is going to have to battle that off.
00:40:00.000 And she's not going to have a lot of success in doing that at the same time that she's hosting people like Jeremy Corbyn.
00:40:04.000 Yesterday, Pelosi and Corbyn got together to apparently discuss myriad issues, not including anti-Semitism.
00:40:11.000 It is pretty astonishing.
00:40:12.000 She apparently said that she discussed with Jeremy Corbyn anti-Semitism.
00:40:16.000 During her UK trip, she said she had a candid discussion.
00:40:20.000 She said, Yeah, I'm sure that went great.
00:40:21.000 Yeah, I'm sure that went great.
00:40:33.000 I'm sure Nancy Pelosi has some very harsh words for Jeremy Corbyn, considering how few harsh words she has had for Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar, open anti-Semites in her own caucus.
00:40:42.000 So Nancy Pelosi wants it both ways.
00:40:46.000 On the one hand, Nancy Pelosi wants the enthusiasm that comes along with this young socialist base.
00:40:52.000 On the other hand, she doesn't want them taking control of the party.
00:40:54.000 So how do you train the 16-year-old to take the wheel if you don't actually have a set of backup brakes in the passenger side of the seat?
00:41:02.000 Nancy Pelosi is trying to grab that wheel, and the Democrats are shrugging her off.
00:41:05.000 The newfangled Democrats are shrugging her off the same way they're shrugging off Joe Biden.
00:41:09.000 Here is Nancy Pelosi, though, trying to downplay AOC's importance saying, listen, anybody who is a Democrat in that district wins.
00:41:15.000 When we won this election, it wasn't in districts like mine or Alexandria's, However, she's a wonderful member of Congress.
00:41:25.000 I think all of our colleagues will attest.
00:41:27.000 But those are districts that are solidly democratic.
00:41:31.000 This glass of water would win with a D next to its name in those districts.
00:41:37.000 And not to diminish the exuberance and the personality and the rest of Alexandria and the other members.
00:41:45.000 Okay, yes to diminish them, right?
00:41:47.000 She's saying, I want the exuberance, I don't want their thinking.
00:41:49.000 So if they could door knock, that would be great.
00:41:52.000 She's right, by the way.
00:41:53.000 Anybody who's a Democrat wins in that district.
00:41:54.000 I've been saying this for a long time.
00:41:56.000 This idea that she is the leader of the newfangled Democrats because she won in a heavily blue district after winning 15,000 votes in a primary is patently insane.
00:42:03.000 There are a bunch of Democrats who are in purple states or in red districts who have to battle for their political lives.
00:42:09.000 It's somewhat like saying that The new wave of the Republican Party is whoever is the rightmost member of the Republican Party.
00:42:16.000 Even if there are a bunch of Republicans in purple states, in Ohio, in Florida, who still have to win their districts.
00:42:22.000 Parties happen to be diverse because different areas of the country are diverse.
00:42:26.000 But the media are treating AOC with kid gloves.
00:42:29.000 And not only kid gloves, they are pushing her.
00:42:31.000 They're really... And by the way, so is Pelosi.
00:42:33.000 Pelosi stood on the cover of Rolling Stone with Ilhan Omar and AOC.
00:42:39.000 I think that Nancy Pelosi is trying to feed the alligator a little bit of the time, hoping that the alligator eats her last.
00:42:45.000 It ain't gonna eat her last, it's gonna eat her first.
00:42:47.000 There's a reason that Rashida Tlaib came out yesterday and suggested that the leadership of the Democratic Party was racist.
00:42:53.000 These kids, as Nancy Pelosi might put it, are not going to sit in the back of the car for very long.
00:42:58.000 They are going to try to take control of the car.
00:43:00.000 They are doing that right now.
00:43:01.000 And they don't know anything.
00:43:04.000 Nancy Pelosi knows this.
00:43:05.000 Chuck Schumer knows this.
00:43:06.000 Everybody who watches politics knows this.
00:43:08.000 The people, the AOC wing of the party, is ignorant as all hell.
00:43:12.000 Here's an example of this.
00:43:13.000 So AOC yesterday, so fresh, so face.
00:43:16.000 She was appearing on Yahoo News and she suggested that America should cut aid to Israel because Benjamin Netanyahu, the elected Prime Minister of Israel, five times over, who's made territorial concessions including the Y River Accords in the past, who unilaterally undertook a 10-month ceasefire with Hamas and a settlement stop, a settlement freeze in 2007-2008, Now this, this dolt AOC is suggesting that America should cut aid to Israel because of Netanyahu.
00:43:42.000 Now, if you want to argue that America should cut foreign aid generally, that's an argument that I think is fair.
00:43:47.000 But if you want to argue that America should continue giving aid to countries like Egypt and Saudi Arabia, that America should continue giving foreign aid to countries that are ruled by dictators, but should cut aid to Israel because you don't like Bibi Netanyahu, you're just a dolt.
00:44:01.000 What we're really seeing is the ascent of authoritarianism across the world.
00:44:06.000 I think that Netanyahu is a Trump-like figure.
00:44:10.000 I think that we There are so many ways to approach this issue.
00:44:18.000 I would hope and wish that a diplomatic approach could change some and impact policy.
00:44:25.000 It doesn't all have to be legislative.
00:44:28.000 Would you be in favor of reducing military or economic aid to Israel?
00:44:32.000 I mean, I think it's on the table.
00:44:34.000 I think it's certainly on the table, and I think it's something that can be discussed.
00:44:38.000 A Trump-like figure?
00:44:39.000 Okay, Bibi Netanyahu served in the Special Forces, went to MIT, served as Foreign Minister, served as Prime Minister, has a long political history, is one of the smartest men in politics.
00:44:48.000 Like, he is not a Trump-like figure.
00:44:49.000 This is absurd.
00:44:50.000 It's absurd, but these are the dolts that the Democratic Party has decided.
00:44:54.000 Must be treated with kid gloves.
00:44:56.000 And then they're surprised when those people try to take control of the bus.
00:44:58.000 Good luck with that.
00:44:59.000 Okay, time for some things I like and then some things that I hate.
00:45:02.000 So, things that I like today.
00:45:04.000 Obviously, The Burning of Notre Dame is at the forefront of everybody's mind.
00:45:07.000 The best movie about Notre Dame.
00:45:09.000 The best book about Notre Dame is obviously "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" by Victor Hugo, which is a great book.
00:45:14.000 There is yet to be a movie of "Hunchback of Notre Dame" that actually finishes the book the way the book finishes.
00:45:19.000 The book is extraordinarily dark, I mean, incredibly, incredibly dark.
00:45:23.000 No movie could end that way.
00:45:24.000 They all usually change the ending so that it's a happy ending.
00:45:26.000 But the best version of "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" is the original 1939 version with Charles Lawton as the Hunchback and Cedric Hardwick as the priest and Maureen O'Hara as Esmeralda It's really a terrific film.
00:45:38.000 It really does hold up and stands the test of time.
00:45:41.000 Huge budget film, also from the best year in the history of movies, 1939.
00:45:44.000 Here's a little bit of the preview.
00:45:45.000 It's Casabundo!
00:45:55.000 The Hunchback of Notre Dame!
00:45:57.000 Okay, the movie itself...
00:46:05.000 It's really good.
00:46:05.000 Lawton is terrific.
00:46:08.000 And Lawton is one of the great actors of this time period in film.
00:46:12.000 The music is great.
00:46:12.000 It's just, it's really rich.
00:46:15.000 If it were in color, and Cedric Hardwick is terrific.
00:46:17.000 The whole movie is really, really good.
00:46:19.000 So go check out the original Hunchback of Notre Dame.
00:46:22.000 Also, it was the first movie for Maureen O'Hara, who was a beautiful woman back in the day.
00:46:25.000 So go, as I say, really good movie.
00:46:28.000 Was nominated for Best Picture.
00:46:29.000 Did not win, but worthy of a watch for sure.
00:46:32.000 Okay, time for some things that I hate.
00:46:38.000 Okay, so there's a story out of Arizona that is just devastating.
00:46:42.000 Apparently, according to ArizonaCentral.com, immigration officials last week deported the spouse of a U.S.
00:46:48.000 soldier killed in Afghanistan in 2010, leaving the couple's 12-year-old daughter in Phoenix, then abruptly reversed its decision on Monday when the deported man was allowed to return to the United States.
00:46:57.000 José González Carranza, 30, was arrested by Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers last Monday on the way to his welding job and then deported to Nogales, Sonora early Thursday morning, according to González Carranza and his attorney, Ezequiel Hernández.
00:47:11.000 González Carranza was married to Army Private First Class Barbara Vieira, who was killed on September 18, 2010, while serving in the U.S.
00:47:18.000 Army in Afghanistan.
00:47:19.000 She was 22.
00:47:20.000 Apparently, González Carranza told the Arizona Republic he's allowed to re-enter the United States through the De Conciencia Port of Entry in Nogales, Arizona.
00:47:28.000 On Monday afternoon, he said he was then driven back to Phoenix, where ICE officials dropped him off at the agency's headquarters near downtown.
00:47:34.000 ICE officials offered no explanation for the decision to allow him to return to the U.S.
00:47:38.000 Hernandez believes the reversal was triggered by media attention the deportation received.
00:47:42.000 Gonzales Carrera said he was eager to see his daughter who lives with her grandparents.
00:47:45.000 We obviously have to be careful in how we handle illegal immigrants in the United States illegally.
00:47:50.000 This particular case is obviously ridiculous.
00:47:53.000 So bad that the Immigration and Customs Enforcement had to reverse it.
00:47:57.000 His wife was killed in Afghanistan and then he was deported leaving his daughter alone in Arizona.
00:48:02.000 I think it is fair to say that we should be looking at giving citizenship to people whose spouses die in the line of duty in the military.
00:48:08.000 Does that seem fair?
00:48:10.000 This would be a good place to start to change the law if the law does not already state that.
00:48:16.000 Okay, other things that I hate.
00:48:18.000 So MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell is already going after Pete Buttigieg.
00:48:22.000 And this should be amusing.
00:48:23.000 The Democratic woke left is saying that Buttigieg is not intersectional enough.
00:48:27.000 So she says, well, maybe the reason Buttigieg is rising in the polls is because he is less threatening, a gay white man is less threatening than a woman of color.
00:48:36.000 There are a number of women who have not been getting very much traction, have been overlooked, shall we say.
00:48:41.000 Klobuchar, Gillibrand, even Kamala Harris with her very big rollout has not been getting as much attention as Pete Buttigieg.
00:48:48.000 Is it possible that, you know, a married, gay, white man from South Bend, Indiana is less threatening to some of the voters than a woman?
00:49:01.000 Or a woman of color?
00:49:02.000 I think that's one thing that Democrats, some Democrats, are believing.
00:49:05.000 Okay, well, this is amazing.
00:49:07.000 If the Democrats turn the attack into Buttigieg, into he's not intersectional enough because he's just a gay guy, as opposed to a woman of color, it'll be amusing to watch the Democrats tear each other apart over this whole thing.
00:49:18.000 The real reason that Buttigieg is rising in the polls is because Buttigieg comes off well, because he is an articulate guy who happens to have a sterling intellectual background, and also, more importantly, because he comes off as a moderate.
00:49:31.000 He's running as a moderate.
00:49:32.000 Now, he's not a moderate.
00:49:33.000 His policies are not moderate.
00:49:35.000 Every policy that Bernie Sanders espouses, Buttigieg basically follows.
00:49:38.000 But I don't know that that's actually going to change anything for Buttigieg at the moment.
00:49:45.000 He's going to continue to be portrayed as the optimistic moderate in the same way that John Edwards was in 2004.
00:49:50.000 I don't think he has a pathway to the nomination.
00:49:52.000 But I do think that it is very likely he's selected as a VP candidate on anybody's ticket, given his early rise.
00:49:59.000 OK, we'll be back here a little bit later today with two additional hours.
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00:50:04.000 We've got Bishop Barron showing up to talk about Notre Dame Cathedral.
00:50:08.000 We've got Daniel Hannan who is stopping by.
00:50:10.000 We've got Dennis Miller stopping by.
00:50:11.000 So you're definitely going to want to be part of the show today.
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