The Ben Shapiro Show - October 11, 2023


Why I’m Showing You Hamas’ Atrocities


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 6 minutes

Words per Minute

185.45728

Word Count

12,336

Sentence Count

931

Misogynist Sentences

18

Hate Speech Sentences

85


Summary

Hamas is not like the rest of us. They are not like you. They do not care about your kids the way you do. They hide behind their own kids. They cannot be reasoned with, and they cannot be negotiated with. And that is why they will continue to do horrible things to innocent people, even if they are hiding behind your own children. They will not negotiate with you, and you will not be able to reason with them. You are not the only one who loves death for Allah like you do, you are not even the most decent human being. You do not share the same values and values as you do about the things you seek in life. And you do not seek freedom the same way we seek freedom. We all seek a decent way of life, but not all human beings think the same thing about their own children, and we do not all care about them the way we do about our own kids, and that's why they do not hide behind them. They are a group of people who have been indoctrinated, cult-like since youth, in a system of cancerous hatred so strong, they are willing to commit the worst atrocities since the Nazis, and then post them online and celebrate them, and revel in them online, in the name of martyrdom, and in the banner of Allah. We shall liberate its land with blood, with blood. We shall return as liberators, with our heads held high and carrying the flag of freedom, and carry the banner that bears the banner of There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is his messenger and Muhammad, our messenger is His messenger, and He is our messenger, our messiah, and he is His messiah And He is the messenger, the messenger of His messenger. And he is not a monster, but a good and good, not a bad person, and so on, and his messenger, so we can be rational, and not a good person, not bad, and a good, good, and good and bad, not good, but good, we are a good man, not evil, and beautiful, not ugly, and evil, not hateful, but beautiful, and brave, and wise, and noble, and fair, and strong, and compassionate, and kind, and lovely, and nice, and all of that, and also good, etc, etc., etc., and so forth, etc. etc. And so much so that they don t care about their kids.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 I know the past few days have been really hard to watch.
00:00:02.000 I know this show has been really difficult to watch and to listen to.
00:00:06.000 And so I want to take a moment to explain why I'm showing you all this video and playing all the audio and showing you all the pictures of the atrocities that the terrorist group Hamas has taken and released.
00:00:15.000 Why I'm showing you the abduction of raped women and the kidnapping of families and the murder and burning of children.
00:00:21.000 So there's a reason I'm doing this.
00:00:23.000 Because there is an intellectual self-centeredness that predominates among a lot of us in the West.
00:00:28.000 We think everybody thinks like us.
00:00:30.000 So we see somebody do something truly evil, and we think to ourselves, well, that is terrible, but the only reason I would do something like that is if something truly awful happened to me.
00:00:39.000 After all, people are generally reasonable, generally peaceable, generally decent.
00:00:42.000 Everyone I know is.
00:00:43.000 So, what awful circumstance could force someone into such terrible, evil behavior?
00:00:48.000 We think, well, if only someone had just made a few concessions, dismantled a few settlements, offered a little more land.
00:00:53.000 After all, we all want the same thing, right?
00:00:56.000 Well, no.
00:00:57.000 No, we don't.
00:00:59.000 That is the point.
00:01:00.000 We can all tell ourselves these comforting little lies before you see the pictures of what true evil does, but you can't tell those lies to yourself after you see the pictures, after you see the videos, after you listen to the audio, because here's the thing.
00:01:12.000 Nothing anyone has ever done to you or could ever do to you would cause you to do these things.
00:01:19.000 No territorial dispute would cause you to butcher babies.
00:01:22.000 No squabble over territory would cause you to rape and abduct women.
00:01:27.000 No so-called occupation would cause you to kidnap entire families or burn them alive in their homes.
00:01:33.000 The only type of person who would do something like that is a person who isn't like you.
00:01:38.000 A person who thinks differently than you do.
00:01:41.000 A person who does not value life or children or decency the same way that you do.
00:01:46.000 A person who might proclaim, for example, that they love death like you love life.
00:01:51.000 I am not going to talk to you, you know that. I am not telling you. Give me my passport.
00:01:58.000 Today you Israelis are fighting those who love death for Allah like you love life.
00:02:04.000 And who compete among themselves for martyrdom like you flee from death.
00:02:08.000 A person who might say we love martyrdom.
00:02:12.000 Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh.
00:02:17.000 We love death like our enemies love life.
00:02:20.000 We love martyrdom, the way in which Hamas leaders died.
00:02:24.000 The kind of person who might call for killing their own children to wipe out the Jews.
00:02:32.000 As Hamas' spokesperson from the Al-Sawarqa tribe in Gaza, the Palestinian people shall never relinquish the right of return.
00:02:39.000 The Palestinian people shall liberate its land with blood, with martyrs, with women, with children.
00:02:52.000 We shall return as liberators with our heads held high and carrying the banner of there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger.
00:03:11.000 See, contrary to the peculiar narcissism of many Westerners, there are lots of people around the world who don't think like we do.
00:03:17.000 Who don't actually care about their children the way we do, which is why they hide rocket launchers behind their own kids.
00:03:23.000 Who will willingly murder Jewish babies just because they are Jewish babies.
00:03:26.000 Who have been indoctrinated, cult-like since youth, in a system of cancerous hatred so strong, they're willing to commit the worst atrocities since the Nazis, and then post them online and celebrate them.
00:03:36.000 Hamas is not like you.
00:03:39.000 Those who celebrate Hamas are not like you.
00:03:41.000 And here's the thing, they exploit that fact.
00:03:43.000 They murder your children and they hide behind their own.
00:03:46.000 They rely on your cultural narcissism to make you believe the death of the kids they are hiding behind is somehow your fault.
00:03:52.000 You see, if they care about their kids the way you do, it must be your fault when their children die in airstrikes they provoke while hiding behind their own children.
00:04:00.000 They expect you to care more about their kids than they do themselves.
00:04:03.000 But what's more important, they expect you to believe that they care about their own children when they manifestly care more about other things.
00:04:10.000 About destroying the state of Israel.
00:04:12.000 About murdering every Jew in their bed.
00:04:16.000 They cannot be reasoned with and they cannot be negotiated with.
00:04:19.000 Now listen, all of this is awkward for those who believe in a supposed universal human liberalism in which we all seek the same thing.
00:04:25.000 We all seek freedom.
00:04:26.000 We all seek a decent way of life.
00:04:27.000 Here's the thing.
00:04:29.000 Not all human beings think the same way.
00:04:31.000 We don't.
00:04:33.000 I know this is hard to believe about any human beings, but it happens to be true even if it is a seriously hideous truth.
00:04:38.000 Perhaps the most hideous truth.
00:04:40.000 Hamas does not think like you.
00:04:42.000 We do not all seek the same thing.
00:04:44.000 We do not share the same values.
00:04:47.000 Now you know why I know we don't?
00:04:49.000 Not just because Hamas says it and proclaims it.
00:04:51.000 Because of what they do and then what they broadcast and celebrate doing.
00:04:55.000 The Nazis at least tried to hide their genocide.
00:04:56.000 Hamas cheers it.
00:04:58.000 They hand out candies to children to celebrate the murder of babies and the rape of women.
00:05:02.000 I've seen the pictures and I've seen the videos and I've watched the tapes.
00:05:05.000 The tapes they release, the tapes they celebrate.
00:05:07.000 You've seen them too on this show.
00:05:10.000 The myth that everyone is a Westerner underneath has to end, or the West is going to end, because narcissism is the preserve of the safe and the fat and the happy, but reality comes with shocking and brutal violence, unless we wake up.
00:05:24.000 And the only thing that wakes us up, the only thing, is looking the ugly reality of evil directly in its evil face.
00:05:31.000 And that's why I'm showing you this ugly reality, that hideous reality.
00:05:35.000 I don't want to do it, but we have to do it, because we have to wake up, because if we don't, The West, we will sleepwalk our way right into our own extermination.
00:05:46.000 So, I'm gonna show you more stuff today that's going to shake up your sleep.
00:05:50.000 I'm gonna show you more stuff today that's gonna remind you of the people that the West faces down, the people that Israelis are facing down right now in the Gaza Strip.
00:05:57.000 I'm gonna show you more of what they do, what they say, what they celebrate.
00:06:01.000 I'm gonna show you more of that.
00:06:03.000 Because this peculiar, pseudo-sophisticated idea about foreign policy, well, it's all just about negotiations.
00:06:08.000 That you can negotiate your way into magic with people who wish to murder you and your children.
00:06:15.000 That is not just foolishness, it's dangerous foolishness, truly dangerous foolishness.
00:06:20.000 So, I've been combing through all of the video and audio.
00:06:24.000 It is flowing out at an extraordinary rate from Hamas videos posted on various websites, from people on the ground, first responders who are taking pictures of what's happening.
00:06:36.000 These are pictures of the entrance to Kibbutz Be'eri.
00:06:39.000 That is one of the sites where over a hundred Jews were found murdered.
00:06:43.000 These are civilians who are attempting to drive out of Kibbutz Be'eri.
00:06:47.000 Hamas stopped them and then burned them alive.
00:06:50.000 I mean, these are Holocaust-level images.
00:06:53.000 There's just...
00:06:54.000 That's what it is.
00:06:55.000 These are pictures of Kfar Aza.
00:06:57.000 Kfar Aza is the site of, as I'm sure many people have heard by now, apparently 40 babies were murdered there and some were beheaded according to media sources.
00:07:06.000 Kfar Aza is also where the Hadad family was burned alive.
00:07:09.000 You can see in these pictures that the house is burned down.
00:07:12.000 They set the house on fire and then you had two choices to stay in the house and be burned alive or to run out and be shot on site by Hamas terrorists.
00:07:20.000 They found grenades, found burning wreckage, and you can see in those pictures the charred skeleton.
00:07:28.000 You can see another charred skeleton outside of a truck.
00:07:32.000 You can see the burned bodies of Jews murdered by the Hamas terrorists.
00:07:45.000 You can see people burned alive.
00:07:51.000 I mean, this is a picture of a child's blood-soaked bed in another kibbutz, Kerem Shalom.
00:07:58.000 That is a child's bed.
00:07:59.000 That's the size of the bed of my three-year-old.
00:08:02.000 And that is a blood-soaked bed.
00:08:05.000 I'm seeing morons on Twitter saying, oh, staged, staged.
00:08:09.000 Conspiracy theories.
00:08:12.000 Where did the kids go, then?
00:08:14.000 Where are they?
00:08:15.000 Where are the women?
00:08:17.000 Where are the elderly?
00:08:18.000 Did they just magically disappear?
00:08:20.000 What happened to them?
00:08:21.000 Why is there blood on this bed?
00:08:23.000 Is that grape juice?
00:08:25.000 The unbelievable willingness of people to believe nearly anything continues to inspire awe.
00:08:37.000 There's video that has now emerged of people In one of these villages who are coming through the village after dark.
00:08:47.000 You know, they're coming after dark after all of this has ended and finding the burned bodies of their friends.
00:08:52.000 This is unwatchable.
00:08:55.000 So, again, all of our shows the last few days are shows that are not appropriate for anyone who's not an adult.
00:09:00.000 They're not appropriate for adults either, but they're something adults need to watch.
00:09:03.000 This is Israeli stumbling on the front.
00:09:04.000 We've blurred out the genitals of this particular young woman.
00:09:08.000 She's obviously been murdered.
00:09:10.000 She's been burned.
00:09:12.000 I mean, this is the kind of stuff.
00:09:14.000 She was just in a village, that's all.
00:09:16.000 She was just living, and that's what we are seeing here.
00:09:20.000 You can hear her friends crying out in Hebrew.
00:09:22.000 You can see baby seats, baby seats covered in blood.
00:09:30.000 Baby seats covered in blood.
00:09:31.000 They came to murder everyone.
00:09:33.000 Children.
00:09:35.000 These are your child's car seats.
00:09:37.000 These are my child's car seats.
00:09:38.000 My children's car seats.
00:09:40.000 You can see they're covered in blood.
00:09:42.000 Is that all mythical?
00:09:44.000 What would cause you to do something like that?
00:09:46.000 To murder a baby?
00:09:47.000 Is there anything that could cause you to murder a baby?
00:09:50.000 If your answer is no, that's because you think like a Westerner.
00:09:54.000 It's because you think like a decent person.
00:09:56.000 But there are people who don't think like that.
00:09:58.000 There are people who believe that they have done the world a service by murdering Jewish babies.
00:10:06.000 There's no shame for these folks.
00:10:07.000 It's not as though they're hiding the fact.
00:10:10.000 Again, they took a lot of these videos themselves.
00:10:14.000 People were burned alive.
00:10:15.000 There are trucks with bodies in them of people burned alive.
00:10:19.000 You can see the charred remains here.
00:10:21.000 Some of it's been blurred out.
00:10:23.000 Yosef Haddad, by the way, who's the source of some of this material, is an Israeli Arab who's been covering some of this from Israel.
00:10:30.000 According to Bild, which is the German newspaper, one of the terrorists had a two-year-old child with him, beat him, and threw him on the porch.
00:10:36.000 The child cried, I want my daddy.
00:10:37.000 The boy tried to run away.
00:10:39.000 I was afraid that they would shoot him.
00:10:40.000 And to prevent him from running away, I spoke to the child.
00:10:42.000 Come stay with us, I said.
00:10:43.000 This is according to one witness.
00:10:44.000 Other Kibbutz residents were brought to the site by the terrorist, including an eight-year-old child and a wounded mother.
00:10:48.000 She had a gunshot wound in her stomach.
00:10:50.000 She was having trouble breathing.
00:10:50.000 Her hand was swollen.
00:10:51.000 She said she was shot.
00:10:53.000 She told me her husband had been shot and her baby was dead.
00:10:55.000 And I asked her, are you sure the baby is dead?
00:10:57.000 She said, yes.
00:10:58.000 They shot him in the head.
00:11:01.000 This is what they do.
00:11:04.000 CNN has confirmed the atrocities in Kfar Aza.
00:11:08.000 Again, a lot of pathetic rumor mongering around yesterday because Israel ushered in the foreign press into some of these areas that you could see the site before it was cleared so people can see the atrocities that had taken place.
00:11:21.000 And multiple members of the press confirmed 40 babies dead in this village.
00:11:25.000 And that's not a particular shock because Israel's an incredibly young country with a lot of children.
00:11:29.000 Israel values its children like no country on earth, truly.
00:11:32.000 The secular people in Israel have three kids apiece.
00:11:34.000 It is the only country in the West I've discussed many times that actually has an above replacement rate demography.
00:11:40.000 People love kids in Israel.
00:11:43.000 They butcher them if they're members of Hamas.
00:11:46.000 And it was confirmed by multiple news sources, 40 babies dead, some beheaded.
00:11:51.000 Here is CNN.
00:11:54.000 What I saw, hundreds of terrorists with full arms, full gear, with all the equipment and all the ability, make a massacre.
00:12:03.000 Go from apartment to apartment, from room to room and kill babies.
00:12:09.000 Itai Vera from the Israeli military.
00:12:11.000 You were telling me some of them, when you went in, their hands were tied together.
00:12:14.000 Some of them locked themselves in the protection rooms of the barn, their house, and people
00:12:18.000 ran out with their children and they killed them.
00:12:21.000 They killed babies in the front of their parents and then killed the parents.
00:12:26.000 They killed parents and we found babies between the dogs and the family that killed before
00:12:33.000 him.
00:12:34.000 They cut head of the people.
00:12:36.000 I mean, just absolute atrocities, obviously.
00:12:43.000 The, um, what's amazing to watch is also the parsing online.
00:12:47.000 I'm loving the parsing online.
00:12:49.000 Well, they didn't behead 40 babies, they may have just beheaded some babies.
00:12:51.000 Well, clearly, then, these are people who think just like you, and negotiations should take place, and probably a ceasefire should be declared, obviously.
00:12:58.000 Um, we have videos that have emerged of families being held captive.
00:13:01.000 We now know that in this particular video, the daughters are missing.
00:13:04.000 Pictures of them have been found in Gaza.
00:13:05.000 This is the family being held captive.
00:13:06.000 This is video that was put out by Hamas.
00:13:08.000 We are here.
00:13:11.000 Listen, we are in Nakhil Ola.
00:13:17.000 This is a Facebook live stream.
00:13:22.000 The Hamas group is here.
00:13:23.000 You can see the terrorists in the background.
00:13:25.000 This is a father and a mother, and they have two very young daughters here.
00:13:29.000 We are here with the girls.
00:13:30.000 They have a son as well.
00:13:32.000 Terrified, helpless, and injured, that's what they're saying.
00:13:34.000 By the end of this video, they're forcing the son, who appears to be a mid-teenager,
00:13:45.000 to go to other houses in the area and try and force people out of their homes, try to
00:13:52.000 drop people out of their homes so Hamas can kill them.
00:13:57.000 They're doing it at gunpoint, obviously.
00:14:02.000 Again, this is Hamas-produced video.
00:14:04.000 This is not Israeli-produced video.
00:14:05.000 This Hamas produced video.
00:14:07.000 The girls are still missing at this point.
00:14:14.000 Anybody here?
00:14:16.000 The girls are still missing at this point.
00:14:18.000 I'm going to go get my phone.
00:14:22.000 Again, at gunpoint, they're forcing this boy to draw other people out.
00:14:24.000 The streaming stopped at 10 o'clock in the morning.
00:14:30.000 Those kids, there are pictures of them that have now emerged from Gaza, apparently.
00:14:35.000 What is happening to the people in Gaza?
00:14:36.000 Well, we know that they're missing children, six-month-old babies, nine-month-old babies.
00:14:41.000 There's a compendium of pictures of the small children who have been stolen and taken to the Gaza Strip by Hamas monsters.
00:14:49.000 And what's happening to them?
00:14:50.000 Well, we now have video that has emerged of one of the Hamas terrorists who was captured alive being interrogated.
00:14:57.000 By Israeli authorities.
00:14:59.000 And admitting what it is that they are doing to these women and children who they are taking back to the Gaza Strip.
00:15:07.000 Here is a video of that interrogation.
00:15:08.000 I'm going to read you the translation.
00:15:10.000 What do they want to do with them?
00:15:16.000 And the terrorist says to have their way with them.
00:15:17.000 He says, what does that mean, have your way with them?
00:15:20.000 He says, I don't want to talk.
00:15:22.000 They say, talk.
00:15:23.000 And he says, what do they want to do with them?
00:15:28.000 Now, there are a lot of people out there who are then calling for some sort of sympathy for what's going on in Gaza.
00:15:33.000 to rape them.
00:15:35.000 That is what Hamas does.
00:15:37.000 To dirty them, of course, to sully them, that's the idea.
00:15:42.000 Now, there are a lot of people out there who are then calling for some sort of sympathy
00:15:49.000 for what's going on in Gaza.
00:15:51.000 Now, we can all be sympathetic to the civilians who are stuck in Gaza, obviously.
00:15:56.000 We should also remember that the only people who seem to give any shit at all
00:15:59.000 about Palestinian life in Gaza in this conflict the Israeli troops.
00:16:04.000 Those are the only people who seem to be perturbed at all about the civilian casualties.
00:16:09.000 In fact, Palestinian civilians have told NBC that Israel is telling them to evacuate.
00:16:16.000 In terms of how Israel goes about reducing civilian casualties, they say that they use very precise intelligence before they strike any specific location.
00:16:26.000 I've been inside Gaza when Israel has been bombing, and you meet Palestinians who say that their phone rang, and on the other end of the line was an Israeli military officer telling them in Arabic, We're going to strike your apartment building because there is Hamas infrastructure in it, but we want you to go door by door first and make sure that there's nobody inside the building before we strike.
00:16:51.000 And by the way, this has been substantiated on every score.
00:16:53.000 Israel was putting out publicly media yesterday in Arabic telling civilians where to evacuate from and where to evacuate to.
00:17:00.000 Here is some of that.
00:17:00.000 I'm going to translate it for you.
00:17:02.000 Translation has been provided by an Arabic speaker.
00:17:07.000 He's an Israeli soldier speaking in Arabic.
00:17:10.000 The operations of terrorist organizations force the IDF to act against them in your place of residence.
00:17:15.000 May peace be upon you.
00:17:16.000 Residents of the Shirk area, Al-Shuwaya neighborhood specifically, please go to the shelter or to the center of Gaza City.
00:17:22.000 And then there's a map showing where you need to evacuate from and where you need to evacuate to.
00:17:26.000 We are talking about these instructions for your purpose, protection and assistance in distinguishing between terrorist organizations and citizens.
00:17:32.000 Citizens, in order to help us in this, you must follow our preparations.
00:17:37.000 That is Israel literally providing maps to the civilians on the other side of the border.
00:17:42.000 An IDF commander yesterday went on TV explaining how they are working to minimize civilian casualties.
00:17:49.000 Here he was, here he was yesterday.
00:17:52.000 What we have been doing from the air over the last hours and actually an entire day
00:18:00.000 is striking Hamas targets with great power and severity.
00:18:06.000 We have been striking all of the different targets, the military targets belonging to Hamas.
00:18:11.000 Now, you may have seen footage on TV or on social media, and you may see a building standing, and then flashes, and then the building collapses.
00:18:21.000 And you say to yourself, well, that looks very much like a civilian building.
00:18:25.000 What I want to tell you is that no, that isn't a civilian building.
00:18:30.000 It is a legitimate military target.
00:18:32.000 And why is that?
00:18:33.000 Because Hamas uses all, locates all of their offices, headquarters, their research and development, and all of their other military assets.
00:18:45.000 If it's above ground, they locate themselves in civilian buildings.
00:18:51.000 And Hamas being the cowards that they are, they never put signs on their buildings saying, welcome to the Hamas headquarters for planning terrorist activity in Israel or welcome to the Research and Development Center for drones and projectiles.
00:19:08.000 You will never see that because Hamas wants to disguise itself as civilians and they use civilian buildings for military purposes, which makes it a legitimate military target.
00:19:21.000 And those are the targets that we are striking with tremendous force over the last days.
00:19:27.000 Those are the images that you're seeing coming out of Gaza.
00:19:32.000 So Israel is attempting to minimize the civilian casualties on the Hamas side, on the Hamas side of the line.
00:19:38.000 What is Hamas doing?
00:19:39.000 They're literally telling their own people not to evacuate.
00:19:41.000 They're telling the citizens that they are, remember, they are the legitimate government of Gaza.
00:19:45.000 They are the legitimate government.
00:19:46.000 They were elected in 2006.
00:19:48.000 They enjoy broad popular support inside the Gaza Strip.
00:19:52.000 A poll from June 15th, 2021 found that three quarters of Palestinians viewed the Islamic militants as victors in the last battle against Israel.
00:20:03.000 A scientific poll by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research found 53% of all Palestinians believed Hamas was the most deserving of representing and leading the Palestinian people.
00:20:13.000 53%.
00:20:13.000 That was in 2021.
00:20:14.000 Okay, so.
00:20:19.000 Israel is trying to save the civilians and meanwhile, Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Hamas have put out audio telling people not to leave.
00:20:27.000 There's a message in Arabic and here's what it says, quote, we will renew the call to the citizens not to deal with the recorded voice messages that the occupation randomly sends through the citizens' phones asking them to leave their home, which aims to cause panic and fear as part of the psychological warfare accompanying the occupation's aggression against our people.
00:20:46.000 In other words, stay and be murdered for the cameras.
00:20:48.000 Stay and be killed for the cameras.
00:20:50.000 That's what we want you to do.
00:20:51.000 Murdered by us because we are telling you to stay.
00:20:53.000 There is a reason.
00:20:54.000 There is a reason they put their headquarters underneath a hospital.
00:20:59.000 There is a reason that they locate their armaments in a university.
00:21:03.000 There is a reason they use schools in order to shield terror activity.
00:21:07.000 This is what they do.
00:21:08.000 Because again, they are playing on your sense of cultural narcissism.
00:21:12.000 You wouldn't do that.
00:21:13.000 So why would we accuse them of doing that?
00:21:14.000 Because they do.
00:21:16.000 They know what you're thinking.
00:21:17.000 They know how you think, but you don't know how they think.
00:21:20.000 That's why we show the atrocities.
00:21:23.000 Again, it's not even like they're hiding the ball.
00:21:24.000 You have to be willfully blind at this point.
00:21:26.000 More anti-semitic.
00:21:27.000 Or just Jew-hating and you don't care about the truth.
00:21:29.000 In order to not see what's going on here.
00:21:31.000 Here's a flashback.
00:21:31.000 This is just a couple of years ago.
00:21:33.000 This is tape of the IDF telling a Hamas person to get people out of a building.
00:21:38.000 This is an IDF phone call to Gaza to evacuate a building with civilians before a bombing.
00:21:43.000 This is just a couple of years ago.
00:21:44.000 And here's how the conversation went.
00:21:51.000 I can't get all the people out.
00:21:52.000 I need at least two hours to get them out.
00:21:55.000 And the Israeli says, listen, we're gonna bomb the building.
00:22:00.000 You want to bomb?
00:22:00.000 Bomb whatever you want.
00:22:01.000 He says, no, brother, we need to do everything we can so you don't die.
00:22:04.000 He says, we want to die.
00:22:05.000 We want to die. And the Jew says, but you have a responsibility for children's lives.
00:22:17.000 And the Hamas operative says, if the children need to die, then they'll die.
00:22:21.000 And the Jew says, God forbid, God forbid.
00:22:23.000 What do you want to die?
00:22:23.000 He says, this is how we reveal your cruelty.
00:22:25.000 The way we reveal your cruelty is we refuse to move our children from bombing sites after hiding munitions in the sites.
00:22:34.000 Are those people who think like you?
00:22:37.000 So again, so much of the West is built around this presupposition.
00:22:40.000 That you can negotiate magically, you can diplomacy your way out of a clash of civilizations, which is what this really is.
00:22:46.000 This is tip of point of spear for a serious clash of civilizations.
00:22:50.000 And so you can see it just written in how the media covered this sort of stuff.
00:22:54.000 Because if there's one group of people on planet Earth who are culturally narcissistic, it is members of the legacy media in the West.
00:23:01.000 They truly believe everybody thinks like them.
00:23:03.000 They think that on everything.
00:23:05.000 From pronouns to taxes.
00:23:07.000 And they certainly think that when it comes to international conflict.
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00:23:50.000 And so, the pseudo-sophisticates in the West refuse to see the truth, or they simply don't want to see the truth.
00:23:57.000 Honestly, some of this is just astonishing.
00:24:01.000 The level of support that is enjoyed by Hamas is very real.
00:24:06.000 This is a massive rally last night in Dearborn, Michigan.
00:24:09.000 For Hamas.
00:24:10.000 For Hamas.
00:24:10.000 Look at the size of this rally.
00:24:12.000 For Hamas.
00:24:15.000 I don't need to retell you the atrocities.
00:24:19.000 I've been showing it all week.
00:24:20.000 Look at the size of this rally.
00:24:21.000 Look at all these people waving Palestinian flags and Hamas flags.
00:24:30.000 This is in Dearborn, Michigan.
00:24:31.000 Again, this is right here in the United States.
00:24:36.000 We have reporters already lamenting the death toll in Gaza.
00:24:40.000 We all ought to lament the death toll in Gaza, and every ounce of blood that is spilled in Gaza, every ounce of blood spilled in Gaza is the result of Hamas.
00:24:49.000 Every single ounce.
00:24:51.000 Every ounce.
00:24:53.000 But there's going to be an attempt.
00:24:54.000 You can already see it starting in the media.
00:24:55.000 It's moral equivalent, you see.
00:24:56.000 When people break into your home and murder your children in front of you.
00:24:59.000 And then you go, and you attempt to kill the people who did that.
00:25:03.000 And they hide behind their children.
00:25:06.000 That's a moral equivalence.
00:25:08.000 You attempting to protect your children and them killing your children and then hiding behind their own to protect themselves.
00:25:12.000 Moral equivalence.
00:25:13.000 That is the direction this is going.
00:25:14.000 You can hear how some Israelis are rather unsympathetic to this point of view.
00:25:19.000 An Israeli mom whose kids were taken by Hamas was pressed on this by Andrea Mitchell.
00:25:26.000 And I gotta say, this is just astonishing sort of stuff from MSNBC.
00:25:32.000 What are your feelings about the The attacks against Gaza right now.
00:25:42.000 You're looking for a symmetrical situation, and I must say, it isn't.
00:25:50.000 If you were dealing with a war between two countries, countries don't take children hostages, I'm sorry.
00:25:58.000 It's against It's against the laws of war.
00:26:01.000 It's against humanity.
00:26:02.000 It's against anything that we all believe in.
00:26:05.000 Every time we had missiles shot at us, I used to say to my children that they should be sympathetic towards the children of Gaza because they suffer a lot more than they do.
00:26:16.000 I'm not sure I still believe in it now.
00:26:19.000 And I must say the only worry I have now from the bombings in Gaza is the fact that my children are there.
00:26:27.000 I can't be sympathetic anymore.
00:26:29.000 I can't be sympathetic to animal human beings.
00:26:32.000 Well, they're not really human beings who came into my house, broke everything, stole everything, took my children from their bedrooms and took them to the Gaza Strip.
00:26:42.000 Israel never done that and will never do.
00:26:47.000 So there is no symmetry.
00:26:49.000 I'm sorry.
00:26:51.000 But they want the symmetry.
00:26:52.000 The media wants it.
00:26:53.000 People on the left particularly are looking for the symmetry.
00:26:56.000 Because again, all cultures are created equal.
00:26:59.000 This is the premise of so much left-wing thought.
00:27:03.000 A full-scale moral idiot, Hasan Piker, he's an emissary of this.
00:27:06.000 Yesterday, he was ranting and raving on his Twitch stream about this and suggesting, of course, why would you... that the only reason, the only reason that you might murder a Jewish baby is because, obviously, years of victimization.
00:27:17.000 That's clearly the problem.
00:27:18.000 Israel's skirt was too short, you see.
00:27:21.000 That's why you walk into a village and you rape women and drag them back to the Gaza Strip.
00:27:25.000 That's why you do this.
00:27:26.000 There's a moral...
00:27:29.000 They didn't deserve it, you f***ing idiot.
00:27:35.000 My goal is solutions.
00:27:37.000 Your goal is the continuation of violence.
00:27:39.000 You want way more than 260 people dying.
00:27:42.000 You want every single Palestinian to be f***ing executed ruthlessly in the streets so that you can build another f***ing theme park in Gaza.
00:27:53.000 BAYING PIG!
00:27:54.000 YOU F***ING BLOODTHIRSTY VIOLENT PIG DOG!
00:27:58.000 SUCK MY D***!
00:28:00.000 How do you think this happens?
00:28:02.000 You think it happens out of nowhere?
00:28:04.000 You think these people are just like, oh, we're violent because we want to be violent.
00:28:07.000 You think that's where violence culminates from?
00:28:09.000 Or do you think it's because you have entrapped them, you have bullied them, you have subjugated them, you have humiliated these people.
00:28:18.000 Two million people live inside of Gaza.
00:28:21.000 They're not even f***ing people in the eyes of Isra- So, uh, that's presumably, according to Hasan Piker, why
00:28:32.000 you would murder a baby.
00:28:33.000 That's why you would murder a baby and burn entire families in their homes in peaceful villages.
00:28:38.000 That's why you would do that.
00:28:41.000 Now, I'm going to attribute this to, again, the peculiar narcissism of people like Hasan Piker who believes that everybody thinks like they do.
00:28:48.000 And I would ask people like Hasan Piker, okay, if that's the case, if you really believe that victimization is what causes people to murder babies in their beds for the crime of being Jewish and breathing, then what would cause you to do something like that?
00:28:59.000 Is there any level of victimization you could undergo that would cause you to do something like that?
00:29:03.000 Because I don't think so, actually.
00:29:05.000 I think highly enough, even of people who I think are intellectual cretins like Hasan Piker, that I don't actually think that he thinks that.
00:29:13.000 There's nothing that could make him do something like that.
00:29:15.000 I'll give him at least that much credit.
00:29:17.000 But the peculiar narcissism that drives you to believe that everybody thinks like you do and then to immediately jump to Israel is attempting to wipe out.
00:29:26.000 Israel has not had a presence in the Gaza Strip since 2005.
00:29:31.000 Since 2005.
00:29:33.000 The last thing Israel wants to do is send its own sons and daughters into the streets of Gaza.
00:29:37.000 That's the last thing they want to do.
00:29:40.000 I know many of the people who are going to be going into Gaza.
00:29:43.000 I know some of the people who undoubtedly will die in Gaza trying to protect their brothers and sisters in Israel.
00:29:47.000 You think they want to be there?
00:29:50.000 They tried to hand the entire Gaza Strip to Egypt.
00:29:52.000 You know what Egypt said?
00:29:53.000 Hell no!
00:29:53.000 We don't want any piece of it.
00:29:56.000 This belief that Israel is land hungry for Gaza is the most bizarre piece of propagandistic trash and ignorance I've ever heard.
00:30:03.000 It's so bizarre and strange.
00:30:07.000 That's what this is really all about, according to... And again, I can attribute to one of two things.
00:30:11.000 There are only two possible reasons.
00:30:12.000 Ignorance or you hate Jews.
00:30:13.000 Those are the only two possible reasons.
00:30:15.000 So I'll attribute to ignorance.
00:30:17.000 Speaking of ignorance and hating Jews crossing streams...
00:30:20.000 Black Lives Matter, which I remember a lot of people were strangely perturbed when Black Lives Matter in its earliest iterations had a bunch of statements on its website in support of the Palestinians and against Israel.
00:30:31.000 And they're like, what does that have to do with Black Lives Matter?
00:30:33.000 The answer is the intersectional anti-Western coalition that suggests that freedoms and liberties are essentially a tool of a white supremacist patriarchy.
00:30:43.000 They cross streams.
00:30:45.000 They cross streams in taking on institutions and values of the West.
00:30:49.000 Black Lives Matter photographic yesterday said, I stand with Palestine.
00:30:52.000 And it is a picture of a person in a hang glider with a Palestinian flag on top.
00:30:57.000 Now.
00:30:59.000 Are Palestinians famous for their hang gliding?
00:31:01.000 Is that a cultural thing?
00:31:02.000 Just big on hang gliding?
00:31:03.000 Or is the reason they're using the hang glider in this graphic because Palestinian terrorists, Hamas terrorists, took hang gliders to an EDM festival and murdered 260 people.
00:31:15.000 Gunned them down.
00:31:16.000 Murdered them in cold blood.
00:31:18.000 And BLM supports that.
00:31:19.000 That's what that graphic is.
00:31:21.000 They literally put on the graphic a terrorist in a hang glider and they said, I stand with Palestine.
00:31:26.000 So first of all, for all the people who are claiming that the Palestinians don't support this sort of stuff, I feel like you think they do.
00:31:33.000 I mean, that's it.
00:31:35.000 Why would standing with Palestine entail standing with Hamas?
00:31:37.000 I'm just confused.
00:31:39.000 I don't think it has to, but I've noticed an enormous number of cross streams here from you guys.
00:31:45.000 And then they put out a statement, perfectly egregious, as usual, for Black Lives Matter and for all you fools who gave them money under the auspices of you were trying to help.
00:31:52.000 You were just trying to help because you're ignorant and stupid.
00:31:55.000 You gave them money and you marched with them, believing that they were on your side, on the side of broader human rights and liberalism.
00:32:01.000 And it turns out they're just intersectional trash, the Black Lives Matter organization.
00:32:06.000 They put out a statement.
00:32:06.000 statement, Black Lives Matter grassroots stands in solidarity with our Palestinian family
00:32:09.000 who are currently resisting 57 years of settler colonialism and apartheid.
00:32:13.000 Well, I just would like to point out at this point, the 57 years of settler colonialism
00:32:17.000 and apartheid, supposedly, which includes 20% again of Israel is Arab.
00:32:24.000 I would just like to point out at this point, look at that number.
00:32:26.000 The state of Israel is not 57 years old.
00:32:29.000 The number 57 is related to the 1967 war.
00:32:31.000 You know where these villages were not?
00:32:33.000 Inside Judea and Samaria.
00:32:35.000 These so-called occupied territories.
00:32:36.000 They were outside there.
00:32:39.000 But it's all the same then, doesn't matter.
00:32:40.000 As black people continue to fight to end militarism and mass incarceration in our own communities, let us understand the resistance in Palestine as an attempt to tear open the gates of the world's largest open-air prison.
00:32:50.000 As a radical black organization grounded in abolitionist ideals, we see clear parallels between black and Palestinian people.
00:32:57.000 Man, America better hope that's not true.
00:33:00.000 That is astonishing stuff there.
00:33:03.000 We, too, understand what it means to be surveilled, dehumanized, property seized, families separated, our people criminalized and slaughtered with impunity, locked up in droves, and when we resist, they call us terrorists.
00:33:11.000 We, too, dream of a world where our people may live freely on decolonized land.
00:33:14.000 This is what decolonization means, by the way.
00:33:16.000 It means murdering babies in their homes.
00:33:18.000 It means raping women.
00:33:19.000 It means burning entire families alive and then filming it and putting it online.
00:33:23.000 That's what decolonization means.
00:33:24.000 They say it, not me.
00:33:25.000 They say it.
00:33:26.000 They say it.
00:33:28.000 So either again, this is ignorance, or are you asking to be lumped in with the people who you're lumping yourself in with?
00:33:33.000 Because if so, that says some things.
00:33:36.000 That says some pretty awful and terrible things.
00:33:41.000 So on the left, a lot of this boils down to This sort of bizarre decolonization narrative whereby murdering Jews is fine because Jews are white people and because Jews are white people.
00:33:53.000 By the way, most Jews in Israel are not.
00:33:55.000 They're actually brown.
00:33:56.000 They're Sephardic.
00:33:57.000 But put that aside.
00:33:58.000 Because the Jews are supposedly white people, this means that it's an act of decolonial resistance to murder Jews wherever they are in the state of Israel.
00:34:07.000 That seems to be the line from so many people on the left these days.
00:34:12.000 The elected student president of the NYU Law School Bar Association sent out a message, for example, refusing to condemn Hamas's mass slaughter and cheerleading it.
00:34:19.000 Quote, Israel bears full responsibility for this tremendous loss of life.
00:34:23.000 This regime of state-sanctioned violence creates the conditions that made resistance necessary.
00:34:27.000 Oh, you see, it's all a territorial dispute, guys.
00:34:28.000 It's all a territorial dispute.
00:34:29.000 If only Israel had just, you know, conceded the Gaza Strip and gotten out in 2005, which they did.
00:34:34.000 If only they had done that, clearly, peace would have been on the horizon.
00:34:36.000 It's all the Israelis' fault that Jews were murdered by the most vicious anti-Semites of our era.
00:34:44.000 I will say that there is a great irony to this person who was the NYU Law School Bar Association president, lost her job at, she was going to come out and work at a big law firm, to work for a big corporation, a big corporate law firm, and they preemptively fired her.
00:34:59.000 You know, I'm not a fan of cancel culture generally, but I've said before that there is an Overton window.
00:35:04.000 It seems to me that when you openly support a terrorist group murdering babies and raping women, at that point I feel like, I feel at that point as though you probably don't have to be hired by a law firm.
00:35:13.000 Call it, call it, call me crazy, call it, call it whatever you want.
00:35:15.000 Once you start supporting the murder of babies, I feel like at that point, fair game for you to lose your job.
00:35:21.000 That seems like that one is pretty obvious.
00:35:24.000 Meanwhile, campuses are plotting a day of resistance in support of Hamas.
00:35:27.000 This would be the students for justice in Palestine.
00:35:29.000 They are not for justice.
00:35:31.000 Many of them are not students.
00:35:33.000 And Palestine as a state does not exist specifically because the Palestinian leadership, the PA, Islamic Jihad, and Hamas have rejected every single peace deal ever offered to them in the history, in the history of this entire conflict.
00:35:46.000 So they're putting out a presence on college campuses across the country.
00:35:49.000 By the way, I'm noticing that all the microaggression folks, all the folks who are saying, you know, it really is offensive and microaggression for you to use the wrong pronoun.
00:35:56.000 It's a microaggression for you to say things like, I'm colorblind.
00:36:00.000 All those same people are peculiarly silent when it comes to mass rallies across the United States on college campuses in support of a terrorist group.
00:36:07.000 Suddenly they go, all the microaggression crowd, they're silent, just quiet.
00:36:11.000 Very weird, very weird.
00:36:14.000 Our people chose resistance over negotiated cages on our homeland, the group states in a Day of Resistance toolkit.
00:36:20.000 Fearlessly, our people struggle for complete liberation and return.
00:36:24.000 Quote, national liberation is near.
00:36:25.000 Glory to our resistance, to our martyrs, and to our steadfast people.
00:36:28.000 This is according to Students for Justice in Palestine.
00:36:31.000 We have an unshakable responsibility to join the call for mass mobilization.
00:36:33.000 By the way, this is nothing new.
00:36:34.000 I mean, when I was at UCLA, there was a student newspaper that was put up by the Muslim Student Association.
00:36:40.000 It was called Al-Talib.
00:36:41.000 And just before, like the issue before 9-11, they literally joked about changing the name of the magazine to Al-Taliban.
00:36:48.000 And they attempted to put out publications that acted as fundraisers for terror groups.
00:36:51.000 So this is nothing new.
00:36:54.000 Meanwhile, left-wingers, who undoubtedly would be thrown from buildings were they actually living in the Gaza Strip.
00:37:00.000 One of my favorite elements of the left is the intersectional coalition that calls themselves things like Queers for Palestine.
00:37:06.000 Which, quick note of irony, if you are a queer person in Palestine, you are dead.
00:37:12.000 That is how that works.
00:37:13.000 They throw you off a f***ing building.
00:37:16.000 But I'm glad that you guys have your intersectional coalition of cute terror support.
00:37:22.000 A labor union championed by Bernie Sanders and representative Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez and other liberals expressed solidarity with Hamas terrorists.
00:37:29.000 According to the Washington Free Beacon, Starbucks Workers Unified, an affiliate of the Service Employees International Union, expressed solidarity with Palestine and deleted social media posts.
00:37:38.000 Union chapters in Iowa, Chicago, and Boston promoted rallies in support of Palestinian attacks, including a long-lived Palestinian resistance rally to be held in Boston on Monday.
00:37:47.000 That Starbucks Union represents 9,000 baristas and joins other American liberal groups in siding with Palestinians over their Israeli targets.
00:37:55.000 The DSA, the Democratic Socialists of America, which counts six House Democrats as members, held rallies in several American cities calling for support for the Palestinians.
00:38:03.000 The original organizer of the union, Jaz Brissac, has praised Palestinian terrorist Razmi Odeh as a freedom fighter and has chanted, from the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free.
00:38:13.000 And in the middle of this, tweeted, quote, there's no two sides to apartheid-free Palestine.
00:38:18.000 Meanwhile, one individual union member, Kyle, of the Starbucks Workers United, freeing Palestine was never going to be flowers and baby animals.
00:38:25.000 What the f*** did you expect?
00:38:28.000 This is what the left thinks.
00:38:32.000 And then there are the pseudo-sophisticates on the right.
00:38:35.000 So let me first say, right up front, America does not have coincident interests with Israel always.
00:38:41.000 They're two separate countries.
00:38:42.000 They're sovereign countries.
00:38:43.000 Israel sometimes wants to do things that are not in America's interest, and America frequently wants to do things that are not in Israel's interest.
00:38:48.000 Like, for example, cut deals with Iranian terrorists, terror regimes.
00:38:53.000 That sort of stuff happens all the time, because sovereign countries are sovereign.
00:38:57.000 Also worth noting, You can be a realist on foreign policy without being immoral.
00:39:02.000 There's a segment of the Republican Party that has basically decided that if the bad idea in foreign policy for years was, there's a moral conflict, let's jump in, then the reverse of that, and what we need is, there's a moral conflict, let's butt out.
00:39:17.000 Take no sides.
00:39:18.000 Downplay.
00:39:19.000 Now there is a happy medium.
00:39:21.000 The happy medium is, sometimes it actually is in America's interest.
00:39:24.000 To back people who are fighting, you know, monstrous terrorists who behead babies.
00:39:28.000 Sometimes that is in America's interest, actually.
00:39:30.000 Not always.
00:39:32.000 There are times where you can make the case that America should not sacrifice blood and treasure even for a moral good.
00:39:36.000 You can make that case.
00:39:38.000 But being a realist does not mean being a foolhardy isolationist who is somehow morally puzzled by all of this.
00:39:46.000 And this is some of the stuff that I'm seeing on the right.
00:39:48.000 Let me make clear.
00:39:49.000 Israel has not called on the United States to attack Iran.
00:39:52.000 No one wants a full-scale war with Iran, including Israel.
00:39:55.000 Because you know how many Jews would die in a full-scale war with Iran?
00:39:57.000 A lot.
00:39:58.000 No one wants that.
00:39:59.000 Iran has used Hamas as a proxy here.
00:40:02.000 And even then, Israel is not striking Iran, you may have noticed.
00:40:05.000 Nor is Israel calling on the United States to strike Iran.
00:40:09.000 And yet, there's been this attempt by some on the pseudo-sophisticate, right?
00:40:13.000 To say, well, you know, no blood and treasure.
00:40:15.000 What?
00:40:15.000 Who's called for blood and treasure, exactly?
00:40:17.000 Who?
00:40:17.000 I'm just, I'm wondering.
00:40:20.000 Dissuading Hezbollah from attacking the north of Israel is an attempt to prevent regional and then global warfare.
00:40:25.000 That's what it is.
00:40:26.000 If Hezbollah gets in, let me explain this to you in small, short sentences so you understand.
00:40:30.000 Hezbollah is a terror group.
00:40:32.000 Hezbollah is backed by Iran.
00:40:34.000 Hezbollah has 150,000 rockets pointed at the north of Israel.
00:40:37.000 If Hezbollah attacks Israel with those rockets, Israel will be stretched to the breaking point.
00:40:42.000 If Israel is stretched to the breaking point, it is not going to worry about the niceties of war.
00:40:46.000 It is going to eviscerate the entire southern border of Lebanon.
00:40:50.000 If Israel eviscerates the entire southern border of Lebanon and also has to then hit all the supply chain roads into the southern border of Lebanon, Syria will get involved.
00:41:00.000 If Syria gets involved, Israel will have to hit bases in Syria.
00:41:03.000 If bases in Syria get hit, Iran will get involved and Iran will drag in its client state or its sponsor state, Russia.
00:41:12.000 Remember, Iran is a state that is joined with Russia.
00:41:15.000 Russia basically runs Syria at this point, and Russia's already signaling support for all of this.
00:41:19.000 So, if you wish to prevent this cascading into a war into which the United States inevitably will be drawn, you know what would be good?
00:41:25.000 Like some threats.
00:41:25.000 You know what would be good?
00:41:27.000 Arming Israel to the teeth so they can actually prevent this from escalating into a broader regional war.
00:41:31.000 If the idea in the war in Ukraine is that most of the goals have been achieved, Ukraine has been protected, Kiev is not going to fall, But the end goal is not clear.
00:41:40.000 The end goal is pretty f***ing clear right now for Israel.
00:41:43.000 Depose Hamas.
00:41:45.000 Control the violence in the Gaza Strip.
00:41:46.000 That's the end goal.
00:41:47.000 That's the only end goal.
00:41:50.000 Providing support necessary to do that seems pretty contained and pretty doable.
00:41:53.000 And yet you're seeing this kind of knee-jerk anti-morality on the part of some on the right.
00:41:59.000 Because you have to stroke your chin and pretend that it's a sophisticated perspective to take a sort of morally ambiguous view of all this.
00:42:06.000 I'm seeing this from some people who I like people whose work I've enjoyed in the past, and I gotta say, it's either ignorance about foreign policy, or cowardice, or something darker and worse.
00:42:20.000 So to take an example of just moral ambiguity for no reason at all, Jason Whitlock, for some odd reason, who again, I like Jason, I know Jason, I like a lot of his work, Jason has decided that it's important to sound off to me generally and say, well you know what, you have to understand why people are not so exercised about babies being killed in their beds in their room. I mean,
00:42:38.000 after all, there have been a lot of conspiracy theories out there. Yeah, I know. What's the
00:42:43.000 conspiracy theory to which you're referring right now that people should give credence? What
00:42:46.000 is it? Seriously, like, spell it out for me. I'd like you to spell it out. What is the
00:42:51.000 conspiracy theory that leads people to somehow draw a morally ambiguous line here? Explain it to me in
00:42:57.000 short words. We've been fed so much bad information about historic events
00:43:09.000 that we have a what what the theme of today's show is.
00:43:16.000 We're conspiracy weary.
00:43:19.000 We're conspiracy leery.
00:43:23.000 We got the thing I thought about watching Ben Shapiro get upset with Andrew Tate and others as I've watched Ben's Twitter feed.
00:43:34.000 And he seemed he's very outraged and justifiably so.
00:43:37.000 But he seems very upset.
00:43:40.000 That everybody doesn't have the same level of outrage, the same level of emotion about this event that he does.
00:43:49.000 I've seen a lot of this where people are policing other people's thoughts and emotions about what's going on in Israel between Israel and Hamas, Israel and Iran, Israel and Palestinians.
00:44:04.000 People are put, Hey, this is how you should feel.
00:44:07.000 And we're getting all these images of the atrocities that happened in Israel and everybody's commenting, how can you not be outraged?
00:44:15.000 And this is the face of evil.
00:44:17.000 And, and there's a lot of stomping of feet of like, this is it.
00:44:22.000 This is the end all be all.
00:44:24.000 And, and everybody must feel the exact same way.
00:44:29.000 that I do about this situation.
00:44:31.000 I don't even know what he's attempting to say.
00:44:32.000 You can pause there.
00:44:32.000 You don't have to feel the exact same way that I do, but I would recommend that you at least acknowledge
00:44:36.000 that this is in fact the face of evil.
00:44:37.000 That seems like a pretty baseline decent thing to do.
00:44:40.000 It seems like pretty, pretty baseline.
00:44:42.000 He references there a bit of a Twitter spat that I got into with, with Andrew Tate.
00:44:47.000 So Andrew Tate, he tweeted out in the middle of all this, there is no, there is but one certainty in this mess.
00:44:52.000 There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.
00:44:55.000 Is that really the, the one sure certainty?
00:44:57.000 Uh, that, that's, that's an interesting certainty that comes out.
00:45:00.000 Literally, he tweeted that in the middle of all of this while the, while the invasion was going on.
00:45:06.000 And then he says, it must have been that Israel brought it on itself and actually wanted this to happen.
00:45:11.000 That's really what this is.
00:45:12.000 Okay, so, he responded to a tweet that I sent.
00:45:13.000 of thought ushered into another psyop. They all cooked for COVID just the same. I see it must have
00:45:17.000 been that Israel brought it on itself and actually wanted this to happen. That's that's really that's
00:45:20.000 really what this is. Okay, so he responded to a tweet that I sent in the middle of all of this.
00:45:25.000 The UN special rapporteur for human rights in Palestine said we are horrified by what is
00:45:29.000 happening and we call for a truce. Okay, they called for a truce by the way, like the day after
00:45:34.000 the massacre, which is absurd.
00:45:35.000 It's absurd.
00:45:36.000 And so I tweeted, they can f*** right off because that's exactly right.
00:45:41.000 It turns out that when people murder your kids, you have no obligation to call a truce.
00:45:45.000 In fact, you have a moral obligation not to call a truce.
00:45:48.000 This drove Andrew Tate Who is a very important person because he flexes his muscles a lot and doesn't wear shirts and does a lot of curls.
00:45:55.000 The height of human moral and intellectual achievement is, of course, that you used to punch people in the face, you do curls now, and you openly bragged about trafficking women on webcams.
00:46:08.000 We have to take you incredibly seriously as a tough guy because of that.
00:46:11.000 Very tough.
00:46:12.000 He wrote, Mr. Tough Guy, let me assure you, as someone who does his own fighting,
00:46:15.000 as opposed to excitedly encouraging others to do it for him while sitting at home on a comfy chair,
00:46:19.000 peace is always worth a conversation. And I wrote back to him, let me assure you,
00:46:23.000 as someone who has not pimped women and bragged about it, the morality requires that those who
00:46:26.000 rape women and kidnap children must be eradicated, not negotiated with. Again,
00:46:30.000 this is a pseudo-sophisticated bulls**t nonsense.
00:46:32.000 I'm sorry.
00:46:34.000 What else would you call it when you have terrorist murder kids in their beds, for God's sake, and your immediate response is, well, peace is always worth a conversation.
00:46:41.000 Again, either you're ignorant or you don't give a s***.
00:46:43.000 Those are the only two.
00:46:44.000 There's no third option.
00:46:47.000 And don't give a s*** includes you don't like Jews.
00:46:49.000 That's what's in that conversation.
00:46:52.000 And sad to say, but this kind of pseudo-sophisticate point of view has also been mirrored by Tucker Carlson.
00:46:57.000 So Tucker sets up straw men and then burns them to the ground.
00:47:00.000 So he played a clip of Nikki Haley.
00:47:01.000 Nikki was talking, presidential candidate Nikki Haley, she was talking about how Israel has every duty to eviscerate Hamas.
00:47:07.000 She has not called for an invasion of Iran.
00:47:08.000 She has called for removing $6 billion in funding that America has cleared for Iran.
00:47:12.000 She has called for more sanctions on Iran.
00:47:14.000 She's not called for a ground invasion or American troops to be used against Iran.
00:47:17.000 But watch.
00:47:18.000 As Tucker spins this into, well, the only reasonable point of view is to basically go hands-off on this whole thing, even morally.
00:47:25.000 Yeah, sure, it's bad, but is it as bad as, like, things happening in the United States?
00:47:29.000 So, here is Tucker finding the morally ambiguous line here, somehow.
00:47:35.000 This is not just an attack on Israel.
00:47:38.000 This is an attack on America.
00:47:39.000 Because they hate us just as much.
00:47:42.000 And what we have to understand is, this is the reason that we have to unite around making sure our enemies do not hurt our friends.
00:47:51.000 America can never be so arrogant to think we don't need friends, just like we needed them on 9-11.
00:47:57.000 That's why Ukraine needs us when Russia's doing this.
00:48:00.000 That's why Israel needs us when Hamas and Iran are doing this.
00:48:05.000 Prime Minister Netanyahu, finish them.
00:48:08.000 Finish them.
00:48:09.000 Hamas did this.
00:48:10.000 You know Iran's behind it.
00:48:11.000 Finish them.
00:48:12.000 They should have hell to pay for what they've just done.
00:48:15.000 This was an attack on America, she says, when in fact it was not.
00:48:20.000 And for that reason, we must, quote, finish Iran, a nation of nearly 90 million people.
00:48:25.000 What are we watching here?
00:48:26.000 That's not a quote.
00:48:27.000 This is not sobering.
00:48:28.000 That's a paraphrase.
00:48:28.000 A wrong paraphrase.
00:48:29.000 She's a child.
00:48:30.000 And this is the tantrum of a child.
00:48:32.000 Ignorant, cocksure, bloodthirsty.
00:48:35.000 Yet no one in Washington scolded her for it.
00:48:38.000 In fact, they aped her hysteria.
00:48:41.000 They aped her hysteria.
00:48:42.000 It's hysteria now.
00:48:44.000 All she said is that Netanyahu should finish off Hamas.
00:48:46.000 And he calls that bloodthirsty.
00:48:48.000 Propagandistic nonsense here from Tucker.
00:48:50.000 He's better than this.
00:48:51.000 And it's pathetic that he engaged in this sort of nonsense.
00:48:53.000 Truly.
00:48:54.000 Truly.
00:48:54.000 He's a smart person.
00:48:56.000 And either he thinks you're stupid or he's engaging in stupidity.
00:48:58.000 I don't know which it is.
00:49:00.000 Tucker, by the way, then continued along these lines.
00:49:02.000 He did an interview with Vivek Ramaswamy, and he likened what just happened in Israel, the kidnapping of women, and their rape.
00:49:09.000 I mean, he's showing video of this happening, like, as he's talking about this.
00:49:12.000 He compared that to drug overdose deaths in the United States.
00:49:16.000 Now, I believe we should fully care about the 100,000 drug overdose deaths that happened in the United States.
00:49:20.000 These are two completely different issues.
00:49:23.000 To go this far afield to link the issues, the only reason you're doing this is because you wish to downplay the atrocity that just happened in Israel.
00:49:30.000 You're not upplaying the atrocity of what's happening on America's streets.
00:49:32.000 Those are two different types of atrocities.
00:49:35.000 People who are addicted to fentanyl, sticking needles in their arms, and overdosing is a moral blight.
00:49:41.000 It is a moral atrocity and a moral evil for people to kidnap women, rape them, and drag them back to the Gaza border.
00:49:47.000 Those are not the same thing.
00:49:49.000 And Tucker knows that.
00:49:50.000 But this is a cheap way of telling you not to look.
00:49:53.000 Don't look.
00:49:54.000 Stop caring.
00:49:55.000 Because after all, what does it matter?
00:49:58.000 What does it matter?
00:49:58.000 Now, again, I don't know who thinks that's a sophisticated point of view, especially when nobody is calling for America to go to war with Iran.
00:50:04.000 The entire purpose of having an aircraft carrier in the Mediterranean is to avoid that.
00:50:08.000 But here is Tucker playing, I don't even know the game he's playing.
00:50:10.000 This is just a dumb, it's a dumb game.
00:50:13.000 But you don't have to look far in the United States for moral outrages also on video.
00:50:17.000 There's not a city in this country, not just the big cities, but cities of 10,000 people.
00:50:21.000 I was in one yesterday.
00:50:22.000 It doesn't have some constellation of drug-addicted young people living outside.
00:50:27.000 We call them the homeless.
00:50:28.000 They're drug addicts.
00:50:29.000 What's that have to do with the price of tea in China?
00:50:32.000 I don't understand.
00:50:32.000 Well, you can't call it genocide.
00:50:33.000 Price of tea in China, I don't understand.
00:50:35.000 More than 100,000 a year.
00:50:37.000 Now, you can call it genocide, you can call it whatever you want, but it's the death of
00:50:41.000 over 100,000 Americans a year and the living death of millions more.
00:50:44.000 Well you can't call it genocide, it's not genocide.
00:50:47.000 So I don't understand.
00:50:48.000 I'm sorry, people who are addicted to drugs and living outside.
00:50:50.000 Oh, sure you do.
00:50:51.000 And again, I want to add my voice to that because I'm a human being.
00:50:53.000 Oh, sure you do.
00:50:55.000 You sound very outraged.
00:50:56.000 But the sale of the outrage among Republican presidential candidates was so much more intense.
00:51:00.000 One of them took to a bullhorn and started yelling about it.
00:51:02.000 I get it.
00:51:03.000 But no one would think to do that about the 100,000 American young people murdered every
00:51:10.000 Because who are you yelling at?
00:51:11.000 Who are you yelling at?
00:51:12.000 First of all, people are on bullhorns yelling about drug overdoses and the open border all the time.
00:51:16.000 All the time.
00:51:17.000 What is he even talking about?
00:51:19.000 What he's attempting to do is minimize what happened in Israel.
00:51:21.000 He's not attempting to maximize what happened in the United States.
00:51:23.000 He's attempting to minimize as though America can't walk and chew gum, morally speaking, at the same time.
00:51:29.000 Which is absurd.
00:51:30.000 And those two things are nothing alike.
00:51:31.000 I'm sorry, that is not alike.
00:51:33.000 It is not alike for drug smugglers to smuggle drugs over the border, which someone then takes and shoves into their arm and then they die of an overdose.
00:51:39.000 That is not the same thing.
00:51:41.000 I promise you, it is not the same thing as a terrorist breaking into your home and murdering your children in their beds in front of you and dragging your wife off to be raped in Gaza.
00:51:49.000 That is not the same thing.
00:51:51.000 Pretending that it is is immoral.
00:51:53.000 It's a moral blight.
00:51:54.000 It's idiocy.
00:51:55.000 It's just moral stupidity at the highest level.
00:51:58.000 Of course we should care about what happens with fentanyl.
00:52:00.000 Of course we should care.
00:52:02.000 We should close our border.
00:52:02.000 Have I been unclear about this?
00:52:03.000 Of course America should have closed borders when it comes to this sort of stuff.
00:52:07.000 I'm on the same side as Tucker on that.
00:52:09.000 I just don't understand why he's not on my side when it comes to Hamas has to be wiped off the face of the earth.
00:52:14.000 What exactly is the counter-argument?
00:52:18.000 In any case, this sort of moral sophistication is predicated on only one of a few possible hypotheses.
00:52:25.000 The most dark and terrible is the possibility that people just don't give a damn when Jews get killed by terrorists.
00:52:31.000 I'm not accusing Tucker of that.
00:52:32.000 I'm not accusing Whitlock of that.
00:52:33.000 In fact, I'm not even accusing the AOCs of the world of that.
00:52:37.000 Although I think she's closer to the border, considering the only tweet she has sent in this entire ridiculous situation is a tweet finding one Jew in New York saying a bad thing that the Israeli government does not even carry forth.
00:52:50.000 That's the only thing she's seen to tweet about this.
00:52:54.000 I'm not accusing all these people of that.
00:52:55.000 What I am accusing them of is a moral blindness that must be caused by a complete flattening of the cultural landscape.
00:53:03.000 In which everybody thinks the same way that we do.
00:53:07.000 And that every problem can be solved in the same way.
00:53:09.000 And that it is of no consequence whether evil walks the earth.
00:53:14.000 Because all problems are basically, that's what realism truly is.
00:53:17.000 Well, that's not realistic.
00:53:18.000 That's stupid.
00:53:19.000 Those are not the same thing.
00:53:21.000 Again, when it comes to policy questions about what should be done in the Middle East, that is a question of prudence, it's a question of pragmatism, it's a question of American interests, which, again, are not always identical with Israeli interests.
00:53:30.000 When it comes to comparing the Holocaust-level evil we just saw in Kfar Azza with people overdosing on the streets of Philadelphia, I have some moral questions.
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00:54:14.000 appropriate okay so
00:54:18.000 rare turn of events Joe Biden, he's been sending a few mixed signals.
00:54:22.000 The White House yesterday put out a statement suggesting that Israel needs to engage proportionally with Hamas.
00:54:27.000 I'm not sure what a proportion is.
00:54:28.000 What are we talking about?
00:54:29.000 100 to 1?
00:54:30.000 10 to 1?
00:54:31.000 How many dead Hamas terrorists account for one dead Jewish baby?
00:54:34.000 I'm just wondering how that works.
00:54:36.000 Proportionality is a mush word that means nothing in international relations.
00:54:40.000 It's stupid.
00:54:41.000 In fact, if you want to prevent further conflict, what you want is disproportionality.
00:54:44.000 You know what's rather disproportionate?
00:54:46.000 What's rather disproportionate is when Al-Qaeda took out 3,000 Americans on 9-11 and we took down two countries.
00:54:52.000 You know what's kind of disproportionate?
00:54:53.000 Pearl Harbor killed several thousand Americans, and so we launched a two-front world war against Japan and Germany.
00:55:00.000 Disproportionate.
00:55:01.000 Bad?
00:55:02.000 No.
00:55:03.000 No.
00:55:04.000 It turns out that the best way to deal with people who are murdering you is to disproportionately wipe them off the face of the earth.
00:55:09.000 That is actually the best thing to do with people like Hamas terrorists.
00:55:14.000 Well, that was a stupid note put out by Joe Biden yesterday, but Joe Biden then gave a press conference and he gave a speech.
00:55:21.000 Now, he's gotten some flack on this speech from some people on the right because he did not mention Iran in the speech.
00:55:28.000 Now, I actually understand, tactically speaking, why he's not mentioning Iran.
00:55:30.000 The reason, presumably, there's a good reason and a bad reason.
00:55:32.000 The bad reason is because this administration continues to idiotically support a deal with Iran, which is impossible.
00:55:39.000 Iran is run by the same kinds of people as Hamas.
00:55:43.000 They continue to sponsor and subsidize them to the tune of billions of dollars.
00:55:46.000 That's one reason why they're not mentioning Iran.
00:55:48.000 The other reason is because if you mention Iran in this context, then presumably you are creating an incentive for Iran to escalate.
00:55:54.000 I kind of hear that, but the speech that Biden gave yesterday was in a rare, shocking... Honestly, I was shocked by this.
00:56:02.000 A speech that actually had some moral clarity to it.
00:56:04.000 A lot of moral clarity, actually.
00:56:06.000 So here was Joe Biden yesterday talking about the atrocities in Israel.
00:56:12.000 You know, there are moments in this life, and I mean this literally, when the pure, unadulterated evil is unleashed on this world.
00:56:25.000 The people of Israel lived through one such moment this weekend.
00:56:29.000 In the bloody hands of the terrorist organization Hamas, a group whose stated purpose for being is to kill Jews, This was an act of sheer evil.
00:56:44.000 He continued along these lines.
00:56:46.000 He points out the history of the Jewish people and the state of Israel.
00:56:50.000 This attack has brought to the surface painful memories and the scars left by a millennia of anti-Semitism and genocide of the Jewish people.
00:57:03.000 So in this moment, we must be crystal clear.
00:57:07.000 We stand with Israel.
00:57:11.000 We stand with Israel.
00:57:12.000 And we will make sure Israel has what it needs to take care of its citizens, defend itself, and respond to this attack.
00:57:24.000 He then distinguishes the Hamas cause from the Palestinian cause, which, again, is perfectly fine and legitimate.
00:57:29.000 And then he says that Israel basically has free reign to take the gloves off, do what it needs to do to stop the terrorism.
00:57:38.000 Here he was talking about this, this clip four.
00:57:42.000 Like every nation in the world, Israel has the right to respond and, indeed, has a duty to respond to these vicious attacks.
00:57:51.000 I just got off the phone with — on a third call with Prime Minister Netanyahu, and I told him, the United States' experience of what Israel is experiencing, our response would be swift, decisive, and overwhelming.
00:58:07.000 Well, that is exactly correct.
00:58:09.000 And then he did, I think the most important thing in the speech here was actually a policy, a policy thing.
00:58:13.000 So he points out that America has strengthened its defense posture in the Middle East, which is important because again, if you don't want a regional war, you do have to threaten one.
00:58:20.000 You do have to say to Iran, listen, if you guys get in, this is not going to go how you think it's going to go.
00:58:25.000 Because people take advantage of situations.
00:58:27.000 And here was Biden.
00:58:29.000 Again, credit to the president for saying this.
00:58:31.000 The United States has also enhanced our military force posture in the region to strengthen our deterrence.
00:58:38.000 The Department of Defense has moved the USS Gerald R. Ford Carrier Strike Group to the Eastern Mediterranean and bolstered our fighter aircraft presence.
00:58:48.000 And we stand ready to move in additional assets as needed.
00:58:53.000 Let me say again, to any country, any organization, anyone thinking of taking advantage of this situation, I have one word.
00:59:03.000 Don't.
00:59:05.000 Don't.
00:59:08.000 That is right.
00:59:11.000 That is not interventionist, by the way.
00:59:13.000 That is the opposite.
00:59:15.000 Interventionist would be going and striking Iran right now.
00:59:17.000 That is not what he's talking about.
00:59:19.000 He is saying, guys, stay out.
00:59:22.000 This is a contained conflict.
00:59:23.000 Let it remain a contained conflict that Israel has to win.
00:59:26.000 Existentially, by the way, Israel does have to win this conflict.
00:59:28.000 If it does not, then the sense of military superiority that has allowed a tiny state of nine million people 7 million Jews to survive in the most hostile region on earth, historically?
00:59:42.000 That perception of military superiority is Israel's asset.
00:59:44.000 That has been punctured by what just happened with Hamas.
00:59:46.000 Israel has to restore that.
00:59:47.000 And they have to restore it in spades right now by destroying Hamas wholesale.
00:59:52.000 Well, unfortunately, the Democratic Party is also plagued by a bunch of Hamas caucus members, Rashida Tlaib leading among them.
01:00:02.000 Here's a video of Rashida Tlaib yesterday.
01:00:03.000 She was asked about, did she have any comment on Hamas' human atrocities, including the beheading of babies?
01:00:08.000 And she literally just keeps on walking.
01:00:10.000 Because why wouldn't she?
01:00:11.000 By the way, the easiest thing to do in the world here is to say, Hamas committed acts of evil.
01:00:15.000 Their cause is not the Palestinian cause.
01:00:16.000 Easiest thing in the world, but she won't say that.
01:00:19.000 She won't say that.
01:00:20.000 I wonder why.
01:00:23.000 She's gonna keep on walking.
01:00:24.000 She says ten separate times.
01:00:26.000 and burn children alive, do you support Israel's rights to defend themselves against this brutality?
01:00:32.000 We're just gonna go through here.
01:00:33.000 You can't comment about Hamas terrorists chopping off babies' heads.
01:00:38.000 She's asked 10 separate times.
01:00:44.000 Just keeps on walking.
01:00:45.000 Congressman, why do you have a Palestinian flag outside your office if you do not condone
01:00:55.000 Hamas terrorists in and out of Israel?
01:00:57.000 I don't know.
01:00:59.000 I don't have a clue.
01:01:00.000 Do Israeli lives matter?
01:01:02.000 Again, the easiest thing for her to do right there is to say, like, that last question is the easiest one for her.
01:01:06.000 She just says, I don't back what Hamas did, but I back the Palestinian self-determination.
01:01:10.000 She can't even say that, which leads to some questions.
01:01:13.000 What exactly is it that she backs?
01:01:16.000 Well, the White House for the first time actually came out and condemned Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib yesterday.
01:01:22.000 Karine Jean-Pierre, who must have been shocked at the message coming down from the top level here, they ripped into Omar and Tlaib for their lack of morality here.
01:01:31.000 What is the President's message to members of Congress who seem to be equating the Hamas terror attack with actions that were previously taken by Israel?
01:01:42.000 Look, here's the thing, and which congressional members?
01:01:46.000 Well, there have been some members of Congress who have called for a ceasefire, and they have not gone as far as backing the administration's call for support for Israel.
01:01:56.000 So look, I've seen some of those statements this weekend, and we're going to continue to be very clear.
01:02:01.000 We believe they're wrong.
01:02:03.000 We believe they're repugnant, and we believe they're disgraceful.
01:02:07.000 Our condemnation belongs squarely with terrorists who have brutally murdered, raped, kidnapped hundreds, hundreds of Israelis.
01:02:16.000 There can be no equivocation about that.
01:02:18.000 There are not two sides here.
01:02:20.000 There are not two sides.
01:02:23.000 So, good for them for saying that.
01:02:26.000 Now, maybe you ought to think about whether those people ought to remain members of your caucus.
01:02:30.000 There's a lot of talk all the time about Republicans expelling certain members of the caucus.
01:02:34.000 Seems like you probably shouldn't promote them as the squad and then have them on the cover of magazines with Nancy Pelosi.
01:02:40.000 Seems like that might be a good start.
01:02:42.000 And meanwhile, I just want to conclude with a few stories from Israel here because I'm getting updates, as I say, by the minute from friends in Israel who are living there, speaking with dozens of people a day from a wide variety of perspectives in Israel.
01:02:55.000 But there is extraordinary unity in the state of Israel.
01:02:58.000 This is just one example.
01:02:59.000 One of the people who was murdered at this electronic dance music festival was a Brazilian-Israeli woman.
01:03:06.000 And a call went out.
01:03:07.000 She was there by herself.
01:03:09.000 A call went out for people to come to her funeral.
01:03:11.000 They were trying to get 10 men.
01:03:12.000 Because in Jewish law, 10 men allows you to pray with a so-called minyan and say certain special prayers.
01:03:18.000 Her only family in Israel was her mom and her sister.
01:03:20.000 They called for 10 men to show up.
01:03:22.000 And here's what showed up.
01:03:23.000 Thousands of people.
01:03:25.000 Thousands of people showed up.
01:03:28.000 The same thing happened.
01:03:28.000 There's a lone soldier, meaning a Jewish American who had gone and joined the Israeli military and who was killed in Israel.
01:03:38.000 Lines miles long formed to get to the funeral.
01:03:43.000 This is a pretty extraordinary video of Bedouin.
01:03:46.000 These are Muslim IDF soldiers who are members of the Israeli army fighting for Israel, singing
01:03:51.000 in Arabic as they approach the front lines.
01:03:53.000 They, by the way, have to wear masks.
01:04:03.000 And one of the reasons they have to wear masks, unlike the other Israeli soldiers, is because if they are identified by Hamas and their allies, then they will be treated even worse than Israeli Jews would be if they were captured or trapped by Hamas members, because they are seen as traitors for defending the state of Israel.
01:04:23.000 I got a note that I wanted to conclude with here from a friend of mine in Jerusalem.
01:04:29.000 Her husband is a rabbi in Jerusalem.
01:04:32.000 She wrote me this.
01:04:33.000 Did I tell you about the wedding my husband formed on Sunday?
01:04:35.000 So remember, the attacks were still ongoing as of Saturday night.
01:04:38.000 Sunday evening, we traveled up north on relatively empty roads, passing many roadblocks, police cars, and army trucks along the way, so my husband could perform a wedding for a couple who was supposed to get married a few days later.
01:04:48.000 The chatan, that's the groom, called up and he told them he was supposed to have a wedding in two days.
01:04:52.000 The commander gave him another day, but couldn't give him more.
01:04:55.000 They wanted to get married before he left for war.
01:04:57.000 They called my husband.
01:04:58.000 He immediately agreed.
01:04:59.000 Friends of the family heard the wedding had to be moved up, so they kindly opened their home to allow the couple to get married on their roof.
01:05:04.000 It was a small, intimate ceremony, just family and close friends.
01:05:06.000 Super bittersweet.
01:05:08.000 Very moving.
01:05:09.000 There are men who are being called up right now from their families.
01:05:14.000 Remember, the front lines in Israel are essentially where people live.
01:05:17.000 I mean, there is no distance.
01:05:18.000 It's not like the United States where people get called up and then they get shipped off to some foreign country.
01:05:21.000 In Israel, when you get called up, you're serving.
01:05:25.000 A couple miles from where you live.
01:05:26.000 You're leaving your family at home knowing full well that they're more vulnerable because you're not home and they're going to serve.
01:05:33.000 And people are coming together in extraordinary ways in the state of Israel because that's what social fabric is all about.
01:05:40.000 The West needs to come together in that same way.
01:05:42.000 America came together that way after 9-11 for a very brief moment in time.
01:05:46.000 But America came together for a brief moment in time because we are very, very secure in the United States.
01:05:50.000 Thank God, America is the most secure, blessed by God in an extraordinary variety of ways, including our geography.
01:05:55.000 We are bordered on the North by Canadians, the South by Mexicans, and the other two sides by ocean.
01:05:59.000 That's it, it's an extraordinarily lucky geography, plus we're an enormous country.
01:06:03.000 And so we're very, very lucky.
01:06:04.000 But that very luck allows us to be morally foolhardy.
01:06:08.000 It allows us not to look evil in the face and to pretend that everybody thinks the way we do because the consequence of that sort of thought rarely arrive at our front door.
01:06:15.000 That is not the case with many of our allies and many people living around the world.
01:06:19.000 And as the forces of evil gain strength and coordinate, it is incumbent on any person who has any shred of moral decency to at least recognize the evil that they are staring down.