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00:01:49.000Very gorgeous. Yeah, beautiful day out today.
00:01:51.000It's not too cold. Just tilt up the mic a little bit.
00:01:53.000Yeah, yeah. All right, so I just want to get in and get out.
00:01:56.000I just want to ask you... How you think our country's current efforts, I'm an environmental science student, and I'm just wondering how you believe our country's current efforts in promoting sustainability and respecting our resources are, and how you plan on addressing that in the future, or what your stances are on that.
00:02:15.000Natural resources, yeah. We're noticing water levels in a lot of different bodies of water depleting, and we're just, I don't think, on the right path at this current moment.
00:02:26.000I'm just wondering what your stance is on that.
00:02:28.000Yeah, my stance is a human-first perspective.
00:02:30.000So, I mean, of course, I love the environment and I want it to be clean and clean air, clean water.
00:02:34.000I guess my question for you, if there's a decision to be made and if it harms humans but it helps the environment, what is the right decision?
00:02:41.000I believe the correct decision is to protect the environment.
00:03:23.000I think that the fact that people can own their own cars, go where they want to go, when they want to go, is a sign of liberty and independence and not have to be captive to the government.
00:03:58.000And for what reasons? Well, a couple things.
00:04:01.000Carbon is life. So carbon does not necessarily cause rising global temperatures.
00:04:05.000We don't know why temperatures are going up.
00:04:06.000It might be because of carbon or human activity.
00:04:08.000Do you know that there's actually more greenery on the planet than any time ever before?
00:04:13.000The Earth is greener than it's ever been because, of course, as you increase carbon dioxide, carbon dioxide is plant food, so the world becomes greener.
00:04:21.000As a result of that, most human beings actually die as a result of cold-based natural disasters, not warm-based or heat-based natural disasters.
00:04:30.000I guess the question is, then, what do we do about it?
00:04:32.000And the radical environmentalists are not saying you're one of them wanting to get rid of fossil fuels completely, which I think would be a catastrophic mistake.
00:04:39.000Yeah, I do believe that getting rid of fossil fuels completely would be a mistake if we did it incorrectly.
00:04:45.000Yes. But I also think that it's somewhat ignorant to say that more fossil fuels, like more CO2, is just plant food.
00:04:51.000How about natural gas? Natural gas, are you in favor of that?
00:05:26.000Unfortunately, it's not a disagreement, so sorry.
00:05:28.000But I do have a question, which is, what advice or input do you have regarding all these young voters with this huge influx of endorsements coming from these highly influential celebrities?
00:05:42.000Yeah. Such as, like, Taylor Swift and people like that?
00:05:46.000Yeah. Nerds, you know, huge thing with Supernatural and Nerds for Harris.
00:05:54.000Well, I mean, first of all, I mean, if you're accepting political advice from people whose lives are totally screwed up, that's a really bad idea.
00:06:01.000And when you're making a political decision, it should be less about what someone who's good at music or playing guitar says and more about what's going to improve your life.
00:06:08.000And we've seen that Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have destroyed this country over the last three and a half years.
00:06:13.000Donald Trump had this country in a phenomenal place.
00:06:15.000Better economy, secure border, no foreign wars.
00:06:18.000And so, yeah, I mean, some rapper is going to tell you to go vote for Kamala Harris But don't you want to be able to own a home?
00:06:23.000Oh, but some rapper told me to go vote Kamala Harris.
00:06:26.000Well, don't you want to not be drafted into World War III? But some rapper told me to go vote for Kamala Harris.
00:06:55.000You got security here. So like, why do you as like a professional pundit think it's fair to come to college campuses and debate like college freshmen?
00:07:04.000Like, doesn't that seem like kind of unfair to you?
00:07:07.000Well, hold on. I mean, let's stop talking down to college kids.
00:07:41.000I mean, like, you come here, you say, this is not adversarial, but, I mean, on the text message you sent out, it says, come to the debate.
00:07:47.000You have this sign that says, prove me wrong.
00:07:49.000It seems like you, like, want this, like, debate to happen so you can put it on YouTube and upload a clip of you, dunk it on the libs or whatever, dude.
00:07:55.000It seems like a grift is what it seems like to me.
00:07:57.000Okay, but hold on a second. Don't you agree that more speech, not less speech, is better for a free society?
00:10:03.000I can't say enough good stuff about them.
00:10:05.000You can consolidate and pay off all your debt, lower your payments, save thousands in interest, and possibly even pay your home off sooner.
00:10:32.000How are you? So, I know close to nothing about politics, and I've seen you on TikTok a couple times, and you seem to have had some really good points.
00:10:42.000And I guess I was wondering, why should I vote for Trump and Sheehy over Jon Tester and Kamala Harris?
00:10:51.000That's a great question. What's your name? My name is Anthony.
00:10:53.000Anthony. Give it up for Anthony. That's a great question.
00:10:55.000Thank you. So, let's start with Trump.
00:10:59.000There's no guesswork in this election.
00:11:00.000We know the type of president that Trump was and that he will be.
00:11:03.000The three things that matter most is I bet you want to own a home in your life, right?
00:11:07.000Definitely. That's one of my biggest concerns.
00:11:09.000Absolutely. When Trump was president, interest rates were 2%.
00:11:24.000Gee. In just four years under Kamala Harris.
00:11:27.000Why is that? It's because Kamala Harris has decided to print six to seven trillion dollars that we do not have, flood the zone with money, and increase asset prices everywhere.
00:11:36.000I bet as a fair-minded person, you don't want to see yourself drafted into World War III and that seeing these wars abroad are not good for your country or generation.
00:11:46.000In fact, I think the Iraq war was a mistake.
00:12:10.000Right now, over 10 million people have crossed the southern border illegally under Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, 13,000 of which are convicted murderers from other countries, 15,000 of which are convicted rapists from other countries.
00:12:22.000That means that there are 28,000 people that were convicted of rape and murder just In the interior of the country, people have no idea where they are.
00:12:30.000Donald Trump had the southern border the most secure it ever was in American history.
00:12:35.000And to come into this country, he had to come in legally and come in orderly.
00:12:38.000So when Donald Trump was president, young people were flourishing, owning homes, being able to start families.
00:14:23.000We have Russia, Ukraine. It's a disaster.
00:14:25.000to run the we are on the verge of a nuclear third world war which is a
00:14:29.000disaster on and then as far as the border statistics that is straight from
00:14:32.000immigration customs enforcement the CBP which is the border patrol council border
00:14:37.000patrol and then finally this last weekend the immigration customs
00:14:40.000enforcement issued the letter that said that 13,000 murders are just in the
00:14:45.000interior the United States we don't know who that who they are or where they are
00:14:47.000and and 15,000 people convicted of rape so those are the citations
00:14:51.000Got it, got it. And I wanted to just have you say that just so no one could tell you, like, oh, I don't have any sources, I don't have any of this or that.
00:15:01.000I like that. It's good. And my final question is, do you think that Trump would be able to help bring down, like, overall costs, bring up income, make America livable again?
00:15:12.000Absolutely. He will make America affordable again.
00:15:14.000How? Number one, we will drill baby drill and bring down the price of energy so that it does not cost as much to heat your home in the winter to drive to be able to go on vacation or to drive to work.
00:15:25.000We're going to bring down the price of oil.
00:15:27.000Donald Trump will drill baby drill and bring down the price of oil day one.
00:15:31.000Number two, inflation is a byproduct of wasteful government spending.
00:15:35.000Donald Trump will stop all of this bloated government COVID nonsense.
00:15:39.000He will bring down the spending, and instead he will bring more money in your pocket, delivering no tax on tips, no tax on Social Security, no tax on overtime.
00:15:49.000So what that does is it brings more money back into your pockets, less money in the government's pockets, which will be the greatest tax cut in American history.
00:15:57.000Donald Trump is running on the biggest middle-class tax cut in American history by promising no tax on tips, no tax on Social Security, no tax on overtime.
00:16:06.000And finally, and most importantly, one of the reasons why housing prices is going up is when you allow 10 million people into your country that were uninvited, you guys have to now compete against foreigners for homes.
00:16:19.000It's supply and demand. There's now more demand for homes and a huge supply of purchasers, which brings the price up.
00:16:26.000And so instead of saying, well, you have to compete against the Honduran for a house in Missoula, Americans should come first when it comes for housing in this country, not people from the third world.
00:16:38.000So Donald Trump doing the largest deportation effort in American history will put you guys first when it comes to housing and affordability, not the people that illegally came into this country.
00:19:06.000As a student, if I don't want to claim this woke ideology, how...
00:19:15.000Do I advance and get my degree in something I love and really want to do and would be really good at without being failed unless I fall into their agenda?
00:19:34.000Thank you. Yes, there is no easy answer.
00:19:37.000Number one, there's strength in numbers.
00:19:38.000Confronting professors or administrators with you plus 10 or 30 other people is the first way to do it.
00:19:43.000You should not go to appeal by yourself.
00:19:45.000You should go with the Turning Point chapter and ask for a remedy with many people alongside of you.
00:19:51.000Number two, though, and I'm just going to be as blunt as possible as you were, I really don't think grades matter that much in the world.
00:19:58.000I know they matter to you for advancement.
00:20:00.000My advice to people is that your character and your integrity and standing for what is right matters a lot more than pandering to some sort of an agenda.
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00:21:51.000I'm a high school student. I'm a junior, and I'm thinking about going to college, so I hope I don't have a similar experience as that woman had.
00:22:01.000And I have questions about the health care, the public health here in the United States.
00:22:08.000Sorry, I'm going to pull out my notes.
00:22:13.000He's currently working in healthcare benefits.
00:22:15.000And he doesn't have a clear political ideology about this, but he works a lot with the direct statistics about this.
00:22:22.000So I can trust a lot of what he says about this, which...
00:22:27.000For example, in healthcare in all of the developed countries, regardless of people's incomes, there is a lot of free public healthcare.
00:22:39.000And the fact that it has better outcomes and it costs less in other developed countries than the United States, Is, I think, something that we need to work on.
00:22:48.000And so, in your opinion, why do you think the United States continues to resist such a model of the healthcare system?
00:22:56.000Yeah, it's a great question. What's your name again?
00:24:09.000I'm sorry. Maybe before we give people Ozembic, we should tell them to start walking three miles a day and get out of their house and eat better than just injecting themselves with some Danish drug.
00:24:20.000And then I'll get to the second part of your question in a second.
00:24:23.000And so we have to talk about root causes, which is a healthier approach to life, which is more movement, more activity, and better food.
00:24:30.000When it comes to treatment, though, we are very, very good in America when it comes to acute treatment.
00:24:37.000I agree. So let me just explain what that means.
00:24:40.000So acute, we're the best in the world.
00:24:42.000If you guys have a heart attack right now, you know, God forbid, a gunshot wound, we have the best immediate care on the planet.
00:24:48.000So our hospitals are trained to make sure you live.
00:24:51.000We have the worst in the Western world when it comes to chronic.
00:24:55.000When it comes to chronic, which is autoimmune disease, Lyme disease, ulcerative choleritis, we're really bad at that because we don't get to root causes.
00:25:02.000Do you have a point you want to take? Yeah, I totally agree with you with that.
00:25:05.000My dad, in fact, has told me many times that like you can go to the hospital, you get totally treated.
00:25:10.000But let's say you live in Hamilton and you're dealing with rural health care.
00:25:14.000It's terrible. These costs are just so much, which is kind of what I was asking you.
00:25:19.000Why do you think that they're so high?
00:25:21.000Why do you think these prescription drugs are so high?
00:25:23.000And why do you think that we still have a system like this?
00:25:25.000Is it is it not just a political ideology or is it something like a bipartisan effort that we need to solve as a country as a whole?
00:25:33.000First of all, there's too much demand for drugs because we resort to drugs when lifestyle changes could otherwise fit.
00:25:39.000So therefore, the price of drugs go up.
00:25:41.000That's number one. Number two, this is a much deeper and wonkier conversation, but it's very, very expensive to become a doctor in this country.
00:25:48.000In my opinion, we should reserve doctors as specialists.
00:25:51.000When nurse practitioners could deal with 90 to 95% of things, but otherwise you have to go see a doctor to be able.
00:25:58.000You guys probably sympathize with that, right?
00:25:59.000And a doctor is selling you his prescription pad.
00:26:42.000Our healthcare system is awful, and also the hospital lobby is too strong.
00:26:45.000Sorry, one more, I guess, rebuttal to that.
00:26:48.000I actually do speech in a vase, so this is really fun for me to talk with you.
00:26:53.000And basically, I guess, in regards to that, it's not exactly just because people are buying so many drugs that they're so expensive.
00:27:02.000It's also because of the companies themselves, because it's a, as we know, it's a private versus a public healthcare system.
00:27:08.000And definitely, like, these private healthcare companies can gouge up these prices.
00:27:14.000And so I think it's the responsibility of the government.
00:27:16.000Maybe. That we are free market people, but our current private drug companies want to sell you something for the rest of your life and not actually get you healthier.
00:28:07.000I think Bobby Kennedy being part of Donald Trump's a good start.
00:28:09.000Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you.
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00:29:28.000Then why do you continue to do tours and speak at them?
00:29:31.000Could you clarify this apparent contradiction?
00:29:34.000Yes, absolutely. So I believe college is a scam.
00:29:36.000I believe you college students are being scammed.
00:29:39.000So we at Turning Point are on a rescue mission to save as many students as possible from the woke mind virus to make sure you guys know you're not alone and you can live in a better and free society.
00:29:49.000So you students are, that's who I'm talking to, right?
00:29:52.000But to be very clear, why do I believe college is a scam?
00:29:56.000Half of you guys, if you graduate with a four-year degree, If you graduate, will not use your degree when you get a job.
00:30:20.000What is out-of-state tuition here at University of Montana?
00:30:25.00020 grand? That is low compared to most schools.
00:30:28.000What is in-state? Is it nursing in-state or out-of-state?
00:30:35.000That's actually not bad. It's still a lot of money, but with room board, I bet it's closer to 30, right?
00:30:40.000And so that's actually some of the lower in the country.
00:30:44.000But said differently, and I'll say this as simply as I can, we have a generation of young people that's borrowing a bunch of money to study things that don't matter, to find jobs that don't exist.
00:30:52.000Okay. Also, like a couple minutes ago, you were referring about, you quoted how taxes, like Trump is going to stand that no taxes, so people will have more money on their pockets.
00:31:06.000But don't you think that will make a social difference?
00:31:09.000Because actually what you're saying is that if there's no money on the...
00:31:14.000Government, then they cannot help minorities or people that, for example, cross the border that do it because they don't have any, like, how do you say, like food, money, resources.
00:32:35.000In Spain, the sticker price is lower, $1,400.
00:32:39.000But you pay a lot more in taxes, more in income tax, more in sales tax, so on and so forth.
00:32:44.000And so the belief system we have, you say, well, the government will not be able to do all these things.
00:32:49.000Well, yes, we believe that the government actually has far overreached what its role is, and that you, the citizen, should actually be able to keep more of your money.
00:32:59.000How do we help the disadvantaged in this country?
00:33:01.000Of course, we want a safety net, but most important, we want charities, we want churches, we want individuals helping individuals.
00:33:08.000We don't always want to look to the government to be able to step up and help our fellow men.
00:33:20.000Do you just quote it? I'll make better, like you believe that people will make better decisions.
00:33:25.000Yes. But if you're encouraging people to vote for Trump, like in a government, shouldn't you be trusting what Trump will make with your money?
00:33:31.000Well, not necessarily. I mean, Trump represents a five million person federal government if he becomes president.
00:33:38.000But even if it's Trump as president, I still think, you know, what's your name?
00:33:52.000The point is that there is individual nuance and complexity to all of our lives
00:33:58.000and that putting more money in your pocket...
00:34:01.000Mason. It allows you to have the agency to do that, not just government being able to tell you what to do, right?
00:34:07.000And so that is in lockstep with the American tradition of when it comes to, it's first and foremost our money, not the government's money.
00:34:15.000Final question, yes. My final question is that in Spain, where I'm from, different political parties have representation in the House of Representatives based on the number of votes that they receive.
00:34:25.000With your tour, books, podcasts and interviews, you're aiming to spread and promote your political view.
00:34:31.000Do you think adopting a system like one in Spain, where various voices are represented proportionally, would help unify different forces, encourage discussion and lead to more compromise instead of fostering devised arguments?
00:34:44.000No, and with all due respect to you, the Spanish political system is a mess.
00:34:47.000I think you can agree with that, right?
00:34:50.000I mean, it's constant bedlam, protests in the streets.
00:34:53.000You've got part of your country that wants to secede, right?
00:34:56.000I mean, it's not exactly, I'd say, a stable political system.