On this episode of The CharlieKirk Show, host Charlie Kirk sits down with Homeland Security Secretary Kirsti Noem to discuss her transition to the White House and her new role as the new Homeland Security Chief of Staff for the President Donald Trump.
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00:01:35.000Just in this, right down the street neighborhood, suburban areas are being broken into by illegal migrant gangs, Venezuelan gangs that have deportation notices on them.
00:03:07.000You are the czar, which I don't love that term, but meaning you're going to be coordinating what agencies are involved.
00:03:12.000I mean, it is everything from ICE to Border Patrol to Department of Homeland Security to even the Homeland Security Investigations, HSI. Kind of paint the picture of the personnel that you're going to have to coordinate to be able to first secure the border and then get this deportation effort underway.
00:03:32.000Well, one thing we're doing different, why we created the borders are, which is the official title is Senior Advisor to the President.
00:05:03.000We're going to bring, I'm pushing hard to bring DOD, Department of Defense as part of this.
00:05:11.000What the Department of Defense can do, we got a lot of guns and badges processing, doing infrastructure, transportation.
00:05:18.000We want DOD to come in and do all those non-enforcement jobs, and that releases a hell of a lot more guns and badges to the street, the rest of the bad guy, because day one, day one, we're going out of the gate, going to prioritize public safety threats and national security threats, and there's plenty of them to find.
00:05:33.000So, Tom, day one, President Trump does the inauguration ceremony.
00:05:39.000He walks into the outer room of the Capitol building, and he has a bunch of basically things to sign for him.
00:05:45.000What executive orders are you going to be advising and pushing for him to sign day one, minute one of January 20th?
00:05:51.000We're going to uncuff ICE and let them do the job they're supposed to do rather than sit.
00:05:56.000Right now, the current secretary, Alejandro Mayorkas, who should have been impeached to remove the first day he got the job, He has instructed ICE, if you're in the country legally, without a serious criminal conviction, ICE can't even arrest them.
00:06:12.000He's telling immigration officers not enforce immigration law.
00:06:15.000We're going to cut these guys loose day one.
00:06:17.000We're going to change the priorities of ICE priorities, and the priorities are going to say this, public safety threats, national security threats go to the biggest danger, but no one's off the table.
00:06:25.000If you're in the country legally, you've got a problem, and we're going to look them for.
00:06:31.000You know, we got Remain in Mexico needs to come back.
00:06:33.000The Third State of Country is going to come back.
00:06:35.000And I'm sure the president's going to sign, I'm hoping, a Title V to allow DOD to help us on the border and interior.
00:06:44.000Other agencies, Looking for help from U.S. Marshals and the FBI. This needs to be a whole of government approach because what we're dealing with right now is the biggest national security vulnerability I've seen in this nation in my lifetime.
00:08:16.000So there's so many questions that I have on this.
00:08:20.000So you will inevitably, within a couple hours, get some lawsuit from ACLU in the northern Mariana Islands saying you can't do this.
00:08:29.000Has a lot of this work already been worked to the courts in previous years with the Supreme Court so that these ridiculous legal challenges can't stop the will of the voters?
00:08:38.000Yeah, we got good judgments from the last administration.
00:08:41.000Of course, they're going to sue again.
00:10:18.000Because we made it clear we're concentrating on public safety threats.
00:10:21.000And I can't believe there's an elected mayor or elected governor in this country who doesn't want public safety threats removed from their communities.
00:10:28.000That's their number one responsibility.
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00:13:32.000Because they like to say, well, we need sanctuary cities because it protects victims and witnesses of crime so they can feel comfortable coming to law enforcement.
00:13:42.000No, we're not working with ICE. That is a bunch of crap, right?
00:13:45.000Because what we want in the sanctuary city, we want access to your jail.
00:13:49.000Well, you already locked the guy in a jail cell.
00:14:02.000And look, most immigrant communities, even if they're illegal aliens, they committed a crime crossing this border, and that's an issue.
00:14:08.000They hear it illegally, and that's an issue.
00:14:09.000But most of them are family people, God-fearing people, a lot of them.
00:14:14.000They don't want to predator in their neighborhood either.
00:14:16.000They don't want to child molester in their neighborhood either.
00:14:18.000So if any of these politicians go to the immigrant community and ask them a simple question, where would you rather see ICE operate, the county jail or your community?
00:14:26.000They don't want the bad guy out either.
00:14:28.000And sanctuary cities, they protect the criminal.
00:14:31.000And you wonder why Chicago has a crime rate and New York has a crime rate?
00:14:34.000Because criminals will flock to a sanctuary city because they can commit a crime and no one's going to call ICE because they're a sanctuary city.
00:14:41.000And what really upsets me and the reason I'm so passionate about this is because the men and women are ICE. Put themselves in harm's way every day.
00:14:49.000It's safer to get a bad guy in the safety and security of a county jail rather than going to the community and knocking on the door.
00:14:55.000He has access to who knows what weapons.
00:14:57.000Sanctuary cities are dangerous for the immigrant community.
00:15:00.000They're dangerous for law enforcement officers.
00:15:17.000One of the more chilling pieces of television happened on MSNBC, which obviously we don't watch, but we saw a clip.
00:15:24.000It was Rachel Maddow, I don't know if you saw this, interviewing Anthony Romero, who is the head of the American Civil Liberties Union.
00:15:31.000Anthony Romero was saying that they're leading the charge to have cities not allow the federal government access the jails, To say that, oh, Tom Homan, you want to deport someone with a DUI? We're going to expunge their record so they no longer have a DUI and give them blanket amnesty.
00:16:14.000Yeah, if I'm being off at all, he was going on for a minute and a half of how he at the ACLU are going to prevent you from doing your job in the next couple of weeks.
00:16:24.000You haven't had a chance to see it and to read it, but what is your reaction to the ACLU basically saying, we need to protect these criminals by not making them criminals any longer and preempting the work of federal agencies?
00:16:51.000And it's shocking to me that anybody, the world's upside down.
00:16:56.000You know, my grandfather was a cop, my dad was a cop, I knew I was always going to be a cop.
00:16:59.000Back in a world where cops are respected, now all of a sudden with the HCU and other groups, All of a sudden, the people who enforce the laws are bad guys, the ones who broke the laws are victims?
00:18:04.000It's going to take the will of all of us, and this is where we come in, everybody, is that, and by the way, yeah, so just to be clear, Blake looked up the quote.
00:18:18.000The ACLU chair said that the cities need to sever relationships with the federal government.
00:18:34.000And by the way, this will last two hours when all of a sudden Medicare, Social Security, and food stat benefits all of a sudden stop flowing into San Francisco.
00:18:42.000And he also said, quote, he wants to declare jails off limits to federal agents.
00:18:55.000They are terrified of this man because President Trump, Tom Holm, and the whole team are going to end the invasion, the occupation of the United States once and for all.
00:19:05.000That's why they are talking like this.
00:19:10.000So, but of course, and can you speak to this, Tom?
00:19:15.000There will be a massive psychological media operation run.
00:19:19.000And we must be ready for this, everybody.
00:19:21.000It'll be kids in cages with an exponent.
00:19:25.000Can you talk about, Tom, about how they lie about this, what we should brace for, and how we need to just keep our head down and do the work and fulfill the mandate the American people gave us?
00:19:34.000Well, this, I explained to President Trump, this is coming, right?
00:19:37.000The first crying female, the first crying baby.
00:19:40.000But, you know, we're going to enforce it.
00:19:43.000Immigration enforcement has always been controversial.
00:20:52.000Mother of five that was murdered brutally in Maryland by an illegal alien.
00:20:57.000Lakin Riley's family will not be here, but also has spoken out in support of President Trump.
00:21:01.000Lakin Riley was the young lady at Athens, Georgia, University of Georgia.
00:21:04.000We're going to educate American people, such as Lake and Riley, her killer was arrested in New York City, but because of Sanctuary City, wasn't handled over the ice, and he went to Georgia and did a terrible thing to this young lady and took her life.
00:21:16.000So weekly briefings, we're going to tell American people exactly who we're arresting, How bad they were, and where we arrested them, and where the sanctuary cities put these people back on the street.
00:21:26.000We're going to be very transparent, and we're going to be, and we're going to, we need to control the messaging, right?
00:21:32.000Under the first Trump administration, during zero tolerance, the left took the messaging, they ran with it, and we didn't respond quick enough.
00:21:39.000And they're still, right, to this very day, as of yesterday, I read a story about Tom Holm and the grandfather of family separation.
00:21:46.000Let me explain this real quick in case you don't know.
00:22:19.000They won't talk about the thousands of young children that American parents buried because their children were killed by someone that's not supposed to be here.
00:22:27.000They won't talk about that separation.
00:22:30.000So, in this administration, I'm going to make a...
00:22:33.000Real hard effort to be very transparent in what we're doing and every week telling people exactly what we're doing because we can't lose the faith in American people.
00:22:43.000We're not going to let you lose faith in us.
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00:24:54.000Tom, you mentioned something that is critical, which, and I don't want to speculate, but let's go into this for a second.
00:25:01.000The threats against the homeland of people that are gotaways, that might have dirty bombs, chemical weapons, might be scouting out critical infrastructure.
00:25:28.000So I've got a couple of whistleblowers that call me and I turn them over to Jim Jordan to become whistleblowers.
00:25:35.000But I've heard from Border Patrol Agency that says, this administration, the number one instruction to Border Patrol Agency is process quick, release quick.
00:25:43.000Because there's no overcrowding, nothing to see here, we've got a secure border.
00:25:47.000So, the Border Patrol has been under such pressure from this administration to process and release quickly, sometimes they're released before the vetting gets back.
00:25:56.000And at least two occasions, the vetting came back after they released and it turned out being hot.
00:26:00.000Now, luckily, ICE was able to find one of them.
00:26:10.000I already said, border patrols arrest the people from 180 different countries.
00:26:13.000Some of these countries sponsor terror.
00:26:16.000We know that we got over 300 people on terror swaths since we're encountered on the border, so obviously there are morons because terrorists are trained out of made law enforcement.
00:26:39.000After 9-11, we created all these different databases.
00:26:43.000Let's prevent people from getting a plane ticket.
00:26:45.000Let's prevent people from getting a visa to come here and blow something up.
00:26:48.000And so we created the TSA No Fly, the FBI Screening Database, the DOD Intel Database, the The visa security program, where if you want a visa coming to the United States, you're vetted heavily.
00:26:58.000If there's any derogatory information, you're not getting a visa.
00:27:01.000And we rented thousands of people from getting a visa.
00:27:03.000But those systems, even though they've been very successful the last two decades, what terrorist today is going to ask for a visa or a plaintiff, known as a vetting procedure, when you simply go to Mexico, pay the cartels a little bit of extra money, and be a gotaway.
00:27:16.000Because here's what you need to ask yourself.
00:27:17.000You pay two amounts of money to the cartels.
00:27:20.000You pay one amount to get to the border.
00:27:27.000But if you want to be a gotaway, you pay a hell of a lot more money if you want to get to Chicago and New York.
00:27:32.000Why did 2.2 million people pay more not to get a free airline ticket to the city of their choice, not to get a free hotel room, not to get three meals a day, not to get free medical care, not to get work authorization within 90 days?
00:27:45.000Why did 2.2 pay more not to take advantage of the giveaway program?
00:27:50.000Because they didn't want to be vetted.
00:28:30.000For those who claim asylum at the border, nearly 9 out of 10 people who claim asylum will get a removal order because they simply don't qualify for asylum.
00:28:41.000They're not escaping fear and persecution from their home government because of race, religion, political affiliation, or participation in a specific social group.
00:28:53.000And while all this asylum fraud is occurring, we got a lot of people in this world that really do need asylum, that really are escaping fear, and they're sitting in the back seat.
00:29:01.000So, 9 out of 10 people get order removal.
00:29:33.000Everybody, this is not going to be easy, but it is the only way you get your country back.
00:29:38.000And this is where us, as the grassroots and the vanguard, need to keep driving this forward on social media, need to drive into conversation.
00:29:45.000Every day on the Charlie Kirk Show, we are going to be driving this and saying, guys, you're getting your country back, but it's going to have to pierce through the media.
00:30:32.000What we know about, because God of Ways, when we say known God of Ways, because you're captured on video, drone traffic, sensor traffic, there's an image or a footprint or something, where Border Patrol couldn't respond because they were too busy changing diapers, making baby formula, taking care of the humanitarian crisis.
00:32:08.000We're both, you parents knowing something just ain't right.
00:32:12.000Whether you see a child at a workplace, whether you see a child in an uncomfortable position, your instincts are going to kick in.
00:32:18.000So we're going to create a 1-800 number that if you see something, say something, because even if one out of a thousand phone calls turns out to be...
00:32:59.000Will it be sped up so they don't have to go through the quagmire that they have to go through now, which encourages more illegal crossing?
00:33:06.000Yeah, you know, President Trump, during the first administration, had a great immigration plan.
00:33:10.000I saw, I read it, and I was part of it.
00:33:12.000And he wanted to base illegal immigration on merit, you know, who can come to this country and help improve this country and serve this country.
00:33:19.000But he also left in there mothers, fathers, sons, and daughters, so he did have a family component in there.
00:33:26.000Of course, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer wanted nothing to do with it.
00:33:29.000Same thing about DACA. Everybody asks about DACA. President Trump had a fix to DACA, But because Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer didn't want to give any money for the border wall, that got blown up.
00:33:40.000Look, President Trump, despite what anybody thinks, the man has a heart too.
00:33:44.000The man doesn't hang his heart on the cohort when he goes to work.
00:33:47.000So I'm sure he will come up with an immigration plan that makes sense.
00:33:50.000We just got hope that the people in Congress, even some Republicans who don't do the right thing, We've got to make sure that President Trump's immigration agenda is followed through on both sides.
00:34:00.000So we'll be pushing that hard, but I can promise you President Trump will have a great immigration plan that comes in that talks about legal immigration.
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00:36:25.000You put the license plate number, it may come back and say, this is a car you may want a secondary.
00:36:29.000So, of course, they seize most fentanyl at the port of entry.
00:36:33.000But if criminal cartels are going to use a route of least resistance, and that's between a port of entry where 70% of the border is no longer on the border because they're changing diapers.
00:36:42.000So, while we stop the fentanyl, we secure the border.
00:36:46.000Another thing we need to do at the same time, we need to educate the American people on the dangers of fentanyl.
00:36:50.000We need to have an educational program pushed off from the White House across the nation.
00:36:54.000Third, we got to address the drive for illegal drugs in this country.
00:36:58.000There has to be a push to educate the American people and stop.
00:37:02.000We are purchasing this stuff, so we got to push that too.
00:37:05.000Sealing the border is going to save lives with fentanyl.
00:37:08.000It isn't coincidence if we have quarter million young people dead from fentanyl, At the same time, they opened this border up.
00:37:15.000So securing that border is going to save a hell of a lot of lives.
00:37:18.000Yeah, we're at 110,000 drug overdoses.
00:37:20.000About 60,000 of them are now fentanyl.
00:38:23.000So if you want to complain about the collateral arrest, you put me in that position to do that, so you're going to get exactly what you don't want is more agents in the communities and more non-priority arrests because you forced that issue.
00:39:00.000My question, Director Holman, is when the current administration came in, the ICE officer union got dissolved and we're trying to bring it back.
00:39:10.000Would you throw your support in bringing it back?
00:39:13.000I already met with some of the representatives like Chris Delbaugh.
00:39:21.000Look, their concern is getting protection because they're going to be sued right and left, right and left.
00:39:26.000So we got to do something to protect them.
00:39:27.000So yeah, it's certainly a certain important discussion.
00:39:30.000I haven't talked to the president about it, but I met with them.
00:39:32.000I support what they're trying to do because this is about protecting ICE agents and not just from harm because they're going to put themselves in harm's way and violence is going to come because they're arresting really bad people, but they're going to be sued.
00:39:43.000So we got to come up with some sort of way to protect them and the union's one way to do that.
00:40:09.000Real quick, I do have a question, but I figured I had to shoot my shot.
00:40:12.000I know you just hired a chief of staff, and it would be the honor of my lifetime to come work for you and your team.
00:40:18.000But my question is, what do you do with these AUSAs when they refuse to prosecute the 1324, 25, 26 cases that we're going to bring?
00:40:27.000Because, you know, right now, for the past seven years that I've worked, They just tell us straight up, don't even file the case, we're not going to take it.
00:40:38.000Tell the audience what she was asking.
00:40:40.000All right, so immigration is not as sexy as a big narcotics case or a big bank fraud case or intellectual property case and all this stuff.
00:40:50.000So a lot of U.S. attorneys say, ah, it's just an immigration case.
00:42:03.000And my question is, in the veteran community, there's a ton of chatter and intel starting back about a year ago related to the potential Israeli-style attacks that happened in Gaza.
00:42:20.000How are you guys gonna plan on working with the local police departments?
00:42:24.000Because they're not talking about it locally right now.
00:42:27.000And my concern is there's gonna be significant violence that's not prepared for related to what happened in Israel.
00:42:37.000There's a plan in place to have White House...
00:42:42.000I forget what the position it's called.
00:42:44.000It's going to be a state and local liaison of the White House to deal strictly with local and state law enforcement agencies to feed concerns straight to President Trump at the White House.
00:43:06.000The men and women wearing that badge and gun, they want to help ICE. It's the leadership that don't want to help ICE. And as we take on the sanctuary cities and President Trump's committed to defunding them, once they start taking the money away, as Charlie says, they're going to come to the table and hope for better.
00:43:33.000But we want to let the law enforcement officers do what they do best.
00:43:36.000I have not met one single badge and gun in the four years I've been retired that doesn't want to help ICE. They don't want to be immigration officers.
00:43:45.000They want to be police officers that work with federal agents to protect their communities.
00:43:48.000So I think you're going to see a vast improvement in that.
00:43:50.000But there will be a liaison dealing strictly with that issue right from the White House.
00:43:57.000Tom, we worked as hard as we worked at Turning Point Action to get you to be able to do your job to save this country from this occupation.