Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, we go through the January 6th pardons and why it was the right move by President Trump. Then Charlie recaps the last couple of years, the triumph that we are experiencing, and more.
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00:02:32.000So the pardon, as the president said during the signing ceremony, last night is a full pardon.
00:02:38.000So that applies to close to now 1,600 J-6 defendants.
00:02:45.000There was a carve out there, Charlie, for 14 individuals whose sentences have now been commuted.
00:02:51.000And those were all members or associates of the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers.
00:02:58.000And I believe that he said that those cases will be reviewed.
00:03:02.000Also, for pardons, and I believe his final decision will be similar to what we saw yesterday, pardoning those individuals, many of whom were convicted of seditious conspiracy, which is a terrorism statute usually reserved, Charlie, for real terrorists, not political protesters.
00:03:20.000So I'm sure the president will reach the same decision.
00:03:24.000And then what's happening today, Charlie, there were several J6-related court proceedings in Washington scheduled for today, including one case going to the jury for a verdict.
00:03:35.000And you have the new D.C. U.S. attorney, Ed Martin, who I believe that you know, who is a friend of mine, and he's already filing motions to dismiss those indictments.
00:03:45.000And I know that judges were forced to do that today.
00:03:50.000I wish I was there to have seen those judges have to drop those cases.
00:03:53.000That would have been another incredible moment.
00:03:56.000And so this is so profound, and I hope everyone here understands what's going on, is that the president could have done the watered-down version, right?
00:04:59.000And Charlie, that obviously was something you were very adamant about, is emphasizing the lack of due process, the constitutional rights violations at play in this prosecution.
00:05:11.000So that is, of course, something that we added to the consideration.
00:05:14.000And I know that the president himself is fully aware of what these prosecutors and judges have been doing for more than four years.
00:05:22.000But I think the most egregious violation is that judges systematically, for three years, Charlie, as we discussed, denied every single change of venue motion filed by every J6 defendant, arguing that they could still get a fair trial in a city most entirely populated by Democrats, and not just Democrats, Trump-loathing radical left-wing Democrats who view the events of January 6th as they do compare it to 9-11.
00:05:52.000I have sat in some of those jury selections.
00:05:54.000You cannot believe what the residents of Washington, D.C. think about January 6th.
00:06:00.000So the judges would claim, okay, well, we'll go through this Wadir process.
00:06:04.000We'll really, you know, drill down into their political views about Donald Trump in January 6th.
00:06:12.000And so it resulted in the DOJ having this perfect conviction rate after now almost three years of trials.
00:06:18.000So that right there is an indication that these J6s did not have their constitutional rights of an impartial jury going before an impartial jury.
00:06:28.000And certainly the judges were a big part of that, but also withholding discovery, Brady materials, exculpatory evidence, concealing the use of not just FBI informants, but other undercover agents from numerous law enforcement agencies.
00:06:44.000So there were so many things just systematically happening there that resulted in more than a thousand going to federal prison.
00:06:53.000So I know that that was part of your strong argument, not that we needed to.
00:06:58.000Again, the president was on board, but I think just developing the argument and the record for this extraordinary measure that he took yesterday.
00:07:17.000Because to your point, the easy one, the low-hanging fruit, and I think what a lot of people thought was going to happen, and CNN and the Washington Post actually erroneously reported this a few hours before he issued that pardon, is, okay, we'll just...
00:07:32.000Just dismiss the counts, pardon those who were convicted or accused of the four or five common misdemeanors, which is still hundreds of people.
00:07:41.000And then we'll go case by case for the 300 or so with those federal, it's 111 charges, assault interfering, impeding certain officers.
00:07:52.000I think that's what everyone was sort of suggesting, and you know this, Charlie, pressure from Republicans in Congress.
00:07:57.000We had U.S. senators very strongly come out during Pam Bondi's confirmation hearing.
00:08:03.000Tom Tillis and Lindsey Graham very unequivocally saying.
00:08:07.000There should not be pardons for anyone accused of assaulting police.
00:08:11.000So this was such a courageous decision by President Trump.
00:08:16.000This was not an easy thing for him to do, but he did it because it's the right thing, and he feels personally passionate about restoring justice and making these people whole.
00:08:27.000It was a phenomenal act of courage, a breathtaking act of courage.
00:08:34.000The other element of J6 News is that in the morning, every member of the J6 committee and their staff received a preemptive pardon from the scum of the earth, Joe Biden.
00:09:11.000But the real outrage, Charlie, is pardoning what I call the four J6 celebrity cops, Mike Fanone.
00:09:19.000Aquilina Ganel, Harry Dunn, and Daniel Hodges, who not only committed perjury under their sworn testimony during that first hearing in July of 2021, they have showed up as victims and witnesses in J6 hearings and trials and sentencing, begging judges to throw the book at J6ers based on the lies about...
00:09:43.000Their injuries or what they saw or what they endured.
00:09:46.000All four of them committed perjury multiple times.
00:09:49.000And that is proven by the fact that Joe Biden has had to issue a pardon to exonerate them.
00:09:55.000They caused arguably more damage to J6ers than Liz Cheney and that committee.
00:10:01.000Really a despicable move by Joe Biden on top of so many.
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00:11:12.000Have we ever seen anything like the January 6th show trials and, let's just say, blitzkrieg in American history?
00:11:20.000Has there ever been an equivalent to this?
00:11:36.000That post-Enron obstruction that was overturned by the Supreme Court in June, saying that the DOJ wrongfully applied that statute in 300-plus cases.
00:11:46.000Nonetheless, the DOJ, DCUS Attorney Matthew Graves at the time, pushing forward with trying to make that charge stick, even after the Supreme Court overturned them.
00:11:58.000This was a rogue, reckless, destructive political persecution.
00:12:02.000And Charlie, people have to pay for what they have done.
00:12:06.000This cannot be the last word on the travesty of the J6 defendants.
00:12:11.000Those in charge, Matthew Graves, Lisa Monaco, even Merrick Garland, have to be held accountable for the lives that they have destroyed or tried to destroy.
00:12:38.000We are just getting amazing testimonies.
00:12:40.000I mean, one in particular, let me just read this to you from my pastor, Pastor Rob McCoy.
00:12:45.000A very disturbing one was Mark Ibrahim.
00:12:50.000So Mark Ibrahim was a J6-er who was an active DEA agent who never stepped foot in the Capitol, but publicly testified that he knew that they were undercover FBI agents there because his brother was an FBI agent who was there and he trained with others.
00:13:05.000He was an active DEA agent, therefore legally allowed to possess a weapon in Washington, D.C., allowed to possess a firearm.
00:13:14.000He was arrested for carrying a weapon with the intent to support an overthrow of the U.S. government and was facing 16 years in prison and lost his job.
00:13:23.000Well, Mark Ibrahim is now completely pardoned and he has his life back.
00:13:36.000The other one that we're going to have on the program later this week is Siaka Masakwai.
00:13:40.000Siaka Masakwai was hunted by the federal government.
00:13:44.000For years, an actor, a supporter of President Trump, and was found eventually at an airport with his pregnant wife and was shook down as if he is El Chapo or some sort of child sex trafficker or drug smuggler.
00:14:01.000He was actually facing trial last week.
00:14:39.000Truthfully been exonerated as the innocent, brave citizens that we were that day, showing up when it was unpopular and uncomfortable to do so, to stand up for constitutional integrity and our constitutional rights.
00:14:53.000This is a day of incredible victory, vindication, and a recommitment to The reality of truth.
00:15:02.000I thought it was incredibly beautiful and incredibly important what President Trump acknowledged in his historic inauguration speech, that there is a God and in him we trust.
00:15:13.000That is what this republic is built on.
00:15:15.000That there are only two sexes, male and female, that God has created.
00:15:20.000And this truth about January 6th is also incredibly important, that we no longer live in the lunatic left paradigm of a false reality about January 6th being an insurrection or any of this other rhetoric that was clearly not only false but deeply malicious.
00:15:37.000Julie Kelly was spot on in her comments about the malicious An unprecedented nature of a weaponized DOJ that waged what was tantamount to a kinetic war against its own citizens.
00:17:59.000And what that means is we need a national reckoning with the truth of what happened, with the weaponized government, with the corruption of the DOJ and the prosecutors, and with the harms and catastrophe inflicted on these folks.
00:18:16.000We want to work in cooperation with the incoming Trump administration to make sure this happens in the right fashion.
00:18:20.000And also that there is serious accountability, as Julie Kelly mentioned.
00:18:24.000We must hold these government officials to account and make sure that as a prosecutor and as a judge that you are upholding the Constitution and you are not willfully participating in a collusion to violate civil rights.
00:18:37.000Title 18. Code 242, under color of law, violating civil rights.
00:18:43.000There is strong law in place that must be enforced, and we need a reckoning with these institutions.
00:18:48.000Really quick, recount for our audience, you were in solitary confinement in federal prison.
00:18:54.000And now you have a full pardon from the President of the United States.
00:18:57.000Put that in the words the best you possibly can, John.
00:19:00.000I mean, what I am so grateful for is that by exercising what I call uncomfortable courage, knowing what's right and wrong, and choosing right, fighting against evil, I actually refused the plea deal, and therefore it was vindicated at the U.S. Supreme Court, and I am about ready to be vindicated and exonerated legally even before the pardon comes.
00:19:20.000So, that's a representation of the fact that we were innocent, betrayed by a corrupt government.
00:20:21.000And it's important to remember with the new golden age and all the joy and excitement from the past 72 hours that Trump was dead in the water.
00:22:27.000I saw, you know, it was six months or so before the...
00:22:30.000The first indictment, and we saw it coming, and we didn't know exactly how to react.
00:22:37.000That probably was part of the reason that Trump wasn't doing especially well in the polls, that he was tied with DeSantis, in addition to the donors turning their backs on him, is people didn't know how the base would respond when the indictments came.
00:22:52.000So you and I, we got nitty-gritty into the polls.
00:22:56.000And we were trying to analyze all of this stuff ahead of time.
00:22:59.000What is the first indictment going to do to him, right?
00:23:57.000We were reading these polls, trying to figure out if Trump was going to lose strength, how this was playing out, these indictments with the independents, right?
00:24:06.000That was really what we worried about, was the independent voters.
00:24:09.000And so for all of it to turn out well, and I started to say at the beginning of this broadcast, there's a great tweet that Charlie put up, you know.
00:24:16.000Charlie never stops working, and he never stops worrying.
00:24:20.000That's something people don't know, and it's a good thing to never stop worrying.
00:24:24.000And I think Charlie finally took, you finally took a deep breath as the inauguration happened, and you put that tweet up, and people really, really loved it.
00:24:48.000I cannot emphasize enough the role that Elon Musk played in all this.
00:24:52.000By the way, that also should get in the Smithsonian of President Trump with the sword.
00:24:56.000How should we think about Elon Musk's role in saving Western civilization?
00:25:00.000I'm 100% on Team Elon for what he did for Twitter.
00:25:04.000And you're right about it, getting the ball rolling.
00:25:06.000He made it easy for all of Silicon Valley.
00:25:08.000You know, Marc Andreessen, David Sachs.
00:25:11.000Jason Kalkanis, other big names in Silicon Valley.
00:25:15.000And he made it easy for, you know, young people tend to identify with that and with sort of that cohort.
00:25:22.000And in addition to the work that TP was doing on all the college campuses, there was sort of, you know, there was a meshing underneath it all that sort of young men, young women, Silicon Valley.
00:25:37.000All sort of turning and making it okay to talk about your support for Trump.
00:25:42.000Okay to admit that you plan to vote for him.
00:26:29.000You know, in the final three months leading up to November, and I'm convinced, you know, I really believe that there's social pressure involved in voting, and people talk to their friends, and I'm convinced that that social pressure had finally sort of abated, that you weren't allowed to talk about voting for Trump and weren't allowed to support President Trump publicly.
00:26:52.000So I agree with you that, you know, the day that he first mentioned, hey, maybe I should buy Twitter.
00:27:23.000You know, last thing I'll say is it gives me hope.
00:27:26.000What it makes me really feel is that we can grow this coalition for J.D. Vance, assuming he's our nominee, we can grow this coalition over the next 12 years.
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00:31:04.000And he emerged out of there, and it was smooth sailing from there.
00:31:07.000I think it wasn't any more than two or three weeks after that.
00:31:11.000Maybe it was all the way at the convention that Trump, I don't remember when he announced that he had chosen J.D. But it's really interesting.
00:31:19.000That he goes from third in the Senate primary in Ohio on the Republican side to winning that thing, to raising his profile for a couple of years in the Senate, and then really exploding last summer.
00:31:31.000And I think what you said is correct about J.D. just being a really, really nice person.
00:31:37.000You know him, so you're able to confirm that, but it comes across.
00:31:43.000You know, the way his sons and daughter, they're just, they're great kids and the way they parent them is so relaxed and like the Thanksgiving video when I think JD was cooking with his son, no, his daughter, he was cooking with his daughter.