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00:01:30.000So I think a lot of people here are trying to get you with gotchas and stuff like that.
00:01:34.000I agree with a lot of what you say, but there's a fundamental issue I have, I think, with some aspects of our society today.
00:01:41.000Vivek brought up that we don't have a Central American identity anymore.
00:01:45.000And largely I think that's because when the Constitution was written, we were primarily Christian, we were primarily European.
00:01:52.000The literacy rate was very high back then because the Puritans forced their kids to read.
00:01:57.000So we had a very literate and effective democracy.
00:01:59.000But today, in the absence of identity, people have sort of gone back to this very materialistic relationship with politics.
00:02:06.000And my question for you is, I think throughout history, you see that every society generally has a spiritual center.
00:02:13.000And our spiritual center was meant to be the Constitution.
00:02:16.000And it strayed significantly from then.
00:02:18.000Even back hundreds of years ago, we had aristocracies that were given the divine right by God to rule.
00:02:27.000Today, in the absence of a military-landed aristocracy with an economic elite, do you think that because people's self-interests have sort of superseded this larger identity of what it means to be an American, for example, during the Vietnam War, you had the song Fortunate Son because these senators you had the song Fortunate Son because these senators would not be participating in warfare, whereas in the past the landed aristocracy would.
00:02:51.000How do we get back to a greater identity of America and actually fighting for America rather than all these politicians that are looking out for their self-interest rather than making America stronger and more powerful on a global stage?
00:03:05.000This is why Donald Trump needs to win, is that we're losing our commonality as Americans right now.
00:03:10.000And you're right, the Constitution needs to be the North Star.
00:03:12.000The premise of the Constitution is that you are made in the image of your Creator, that you have agency, that liberty is God's idea, not man's idea, and that when a free society is allowed to occur and ensue, it's amazing what human beings can do.
00:03:26.000As we stray away from the Constitution, our country disintegrates.
00:03:32.000So because we have become largely materialistic and consumerist, don't you think that as part of our government, we need to have more of like an actual central institution which promotes a central culture rather than all these individual interests that kind of come together?
00:03:45.000I don't, but I think this other guy wants to get in here.
00:04:40.000That's actually part of the trick of this election, is that they're trying to convince you she's not an incumbent.
00:04:45.000Usually incumbents, so that's actually a really, really smart question.
00:04:49.000Usually you want to be an incumbent, unless you've been an awful president and vice president, and now they're trying to act as if they're not an incumbent.
00:04:56.000Do you notice that, where she's like, oh, I'm gonna...
00:04:58.000How many times does she say, we need to turn the page?
00:05:01.000Yeah, turn the page on you, Kamala Harris.
00:05:03.000You're the current Vice President of the United States.
00:05:05.000Like, oh, we need a change after the last 10 years.
00:05:08.000And you're kind of like, wait a second, you're the change candidate as the Vice President?
00:05:12.000And so it's a smart question because typically you want to be the incumbent and run on your record.
00:05:17.000Now it seems as if that's changed dramatically.
00:05:19.000And do you feel like she was legitimately elected to be the vice president?
00:05:24.000I mean, it was legitimate through the Democrat Party, but, I mean, for all of you Democrats out there, I know you're out there, you guys should be really, really upset that you guys did not have a fair and open primary.
00:05:34.000Sixteen million people voted for Joe Biden.
00:05:37.000Not for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, just Joe Biden.
00:05:40.000And you guys all of a sudden had to be, you know, stuck with Kamala Harris.
00:05:44.000Yeah, of course, I don't know if it was like a Zoom call or something or the delegates met.
00:05:47.000No one's ever explained to me how this worked, by the way.
00:07:10.000But one thing that is kind of a concern to me about America first is both Kamala and Trump's, they've pledged so much money and support to Israel as if it's an extension of the United States, as if it's part of the United States.
00:07:22.000So how can we say we're putting America first as Trump supporters when all this dialogue about sending billions of dollars to protect Israel?
00:07:38.000So America first then allows you to be involved in international affairs.
00:07:41.000America only would say we don't want to be involved.
00:07:43.000And so I will agree that there should be a suspension of all foreign aid until immigration is completely shut down and we've done a deportation effort.
00:08:05.000And then, last thing, so would you agree that we should be putting a little bit less money into Israel, that we're doing too much right now, but we should probably decrease that spending?
00:08:12.000I will agree with this, that during the last spending bill, it inexplicably went up by like $15 billion, and no one gave me a good explanation.
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00:10:15.000Me personally, I just wonder because for me, it gives you a list of classes.
00:10:19.000There's only a couple of classes that are required for each person to take, whether that be for your major or for that be for your core.
00:10:26.000I believe at one of the schools, it's like government's like the only required core class in English that you take, but all the other classes you get options.
00:10:33.000So I'm like, you should pick the most useful out of those options.
00:12:03.000But we're talking about legalizing something that's currently illegal, rather than making something legal that is illegal, if that makes sense.
00:12:12.000Let me put it this way, and maybe we can find common ground.
00:12:16.000Would you agree that there are more side effects to the usage of marijuana than most people would be aware about?
00:14:00.000They said that it was going to lower usage rates, that once it's legal, people will use it less because the mystique of the illegality will be gone.
00:14:38.000So there's actually two things I want to talk about.
00:14:40.000The first thing is not necessarily a question, but I just want to tell you something that I experienced a little while ago.
00:14:45.000When I was in 2020, that's when I went to boot camp.
00:14:48.000And before boot camp, you know, this is during the height of COVID. And I didn't really, you know, have a plan or do anything and, you know, whatever.
00:14:55.000That's why I wanted to go into the Marine Corps.
00:14:57.000And when I was in the quarantined hotel before, it was my first year of voting that I could have voted, and they would not allow me to vote.
00:15:05.000I was registered and everything, and they kept me in that hotel, and I couldn't leave until voting was over.
00:16:40.000But I do think that we should fight for a government that we trust enough that they can at least control sophisticated weaponry, tanks, missiles, thermonuclear weapons.
00:16:51.000But I think you're coming after it in a good way, that more liberty, not less liberty on this topic is probably the right solution.
00:19:07.000For those who aren't voting early, my question is, because misinformation is a big deal, how has misinformation affected the decisions that voters make today on who they vote for or if they decide to vote at all?
00:19:19.000I will say that there are some mythologies out there that, let me get to it this way.
00:19:24.000Some people will say, but Charlie, I'm not going to vote because my vote won't count.
00:19:45.000You guys will wait in line to go, you know, take a leak at halftime at the UGA line for 30 minutes, and you can't go 10 minutes to go fill out a piece of paper to save the country.
00:19:57.000And so I just think we have to challenge people that say they won't vote, say, go do it, you'll wait in line for other things, and God bless you for voting early.
00:22:09.000And I want to just encourage you to depersonalize this election.
00:22:14.000So when you go and vote, don't even think about Donald Trump or Kamala Harris.
00:22:17.000Instead, when you vote, you're actually voting for 5000 people that are going to run your government, that are going to run all the different agencies.
00:22:24.000So Donald Trump is assembling a once in a generation bipartisan unity team of people that are going to run the government, including Democrats, independents and centrists.
00:22:34.000For example, Bobby Kennedy, the first Kennedy ever to endorse a Republican who ran for the presidency as a Democrat.
00:22:42.000And he endorsed Donald Trump because he believes Donald Trump would be best on issues he cares about, including public health, censorship and free speech.
00:22:51.000Tulsi Gabbard has now endorsed Donald Trump.
00:22:53.000I'm not sure if you're familiar with her.
00:22:55.000Yeah, she is the former co-chair of the Democrat Party and also ran for the presidency.
00:23:01.000So Donald Trump has two former Democrat presidential candidates that have endorsed him.
00:23:05.000And finally, I don't know if you'll find him compelling, but definitely one of the most, let's say, creative and productive entrepreneurs, Elon Musk, who has endorsed Donald Trump, who, of course, is behind Tesla, Starlink.
00:23:17.000And I will say, you're from Western North Carolina, right?
00:23:21.000Where you're from, they have internet access, thanks to Elon Musk and Starlink, actually, largely.
00:23:27.000So this team of people have come together and endorsed Trump because it's more about the 5,000 people that run the government than not.
00:23:33.000What Kamala Harris has exhibited over the last couple of years is an agenda where it's harder to own a home, Hyperinflation is crushing people.
00:23:41.000And also, we have mass illegal immigration on the southern border.
00:23:46.000So I would encourage you when you go and vote, say, wow, the guy that has two former Democrat candidates together are going to represent you.
00:23:53.000And I can understand because of the identifications you listed, you might be thrown to the left.
00:23:58.000I'm here to tell you that there's a place for you in our movement, and we'd love to earn your vote for Donald Trump today.
00:24:36.000So Kamala Harris is actually associating herself with John Bolton, Dick Cheney, Liz Cheney, Leon Panetta, who are the most aggressive warmongers of D.C., where Donald Trump is assembling himself with people that are promoting peace, such as Tulsi Gabbard and Bobby Kennedy.
00:24:52.000So you're right that the Democrat Party is creating their own unity, but it's more like a uniparty than a unity ticket.
00:24:59.000It's more about invade the world, Occupy other countries where Donald Trump has ideas that are far more consistent with traditional citizen-led values of this country.
00:25:29.000There's been a lot of talk today about limiting legal immigration, completely cutting out illegal immigration until America can deal with its internal problems.
00:25:37.000But how do you propose we deal with the estimated 10 to 20 million illegal aliens that are already in the country?
00:25:43.000And do you think this is a problem that a Trump administration or any administration for that matter can begin to deal with?
00:25:50.000Yeah, as I mentioned earlier, that's why there has to be a deportation effort, but it starts with the people who committed crimes, right?
00:25:55.000So there are hundreds of thousands of individuals that have committed crimes on newcomer status, and they must be returned to their country of origin, and then you must go through a process for the rest and, you know, figure that out.
00:26:10.000How would you propose we deal with countries, and there are probably going to be a lot of them, I'd assume, that have no interest in taking back criminals?
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00:29:40.000Because on the inverse, what have we seen over the last 40 years?
00:29:43.000The last 40 years we've seen mass de-industrialization, we saw the decaying of the inner part of the country, and there was a deal that was cut.
00:29:50.000And the deal that was cut is that we're going to shut down American factories, we're going to then re-import all the stuff that we used to make here into the country, a bunch of plastic and cheap stuff, and make us wealthier.
00:30:02.000Turns out that never actually materialized.
00:30:04.000Okay, but what I was trying to say is these countries like China and Korea, where we get cheaper labor from Vietnam, Laos, India.
00:30:17.000So if you bring the production back to the U.S., will it not cause these items to increase in price?
00:30:22.000They might modestly increase in price, but it will be made by an American.
00:30:26.000And I will say this, but it will be a higher quality good.
00:30:29.000I think we can all agree that you would rather pay a little bit more for less stuff if it's made in America, if it's higher quality.
00:30:36.000So it's going to be more expensive then?
00:30:43.000But let me give you just like a theoretical example, which is if you are going to buy a clothing, not even just a clothing item, but any product, does it matter where it's made at all to you?
00:30:57.000I think I actually try to buy American whenever I can, and maybe I'm a sucker for that stuff.
00:31:00.000I know for you, like, but there's some people that, like, I know for us, like, for me and you and probably most people here, like, a little bit price difference won't make a difference, but that's, like, the whole point of, like, what Kamala Harris is campaigning about is for, like, the middle class people who aren't as lucky as us.
00:31:50.000I mean, again, you're falling for propaganda because here's the thing.
00:31:54.000How did the middle class do under Donald Trump?
00:31:56.000The middle class had a renaissance, the likes of which we've never seen before in American history.
00:31:59.000Under Biden-Harris, the middle class has gotten crushed.
00:32:02.000But here's how you actually make products cheaper.
00:32:05.000The number one thing that is driving inflation, two things, energy and cheap money.
00:32:10.000You stop the over excess of government spending and you drill baby drill.
00:32:13.000But again, I would just ask the question, if Kamala Harris was going to do all those things, why hasn't she done any of that in the last four years?
00:32:19.000I mean, there's nothing really for her to do as vice president.
00:32:23.000I don't know really what you expect her to do.
00:32:24.000Right now she could say, let me just give you one example.
00:32:27.000She could tweet out, I am structing the Internal Revenue Service to no longer collect tax on tips.
00:32:32.000But she won't do that because she actually doesn't believe in it.
00:32:35.000Because she stole it from Donald Trump's campaign.
00:32:37.000She right now could just say, I as vice president, being in charge of the border, am completely shutting down the border and will not allow another individual into the United States of America.
00:32:45.000But she won't do that because she's using it as like a campaign rhetoric thing.
00:32:48.000And I would just encourage you to look at...
00:33:18.000She'll fight for the foreigner that's invading the country.
00:33:21.000She'll fight for, for example, if you break into America, you get a luxury hotel, you get taxpayer-funded benefits, and it routinely puts the American citizen and taxpayer last.
00:33:32.000Alright, well, thank you for your time.
00:33:54.000She's actually the executive director of Georgia Right to Life.
00:34:00.000I want to say also I am a Christian, so go Jesus Christ, that's my guy.
00:34:04.000But I wanted to say I have three younger siblings, two of which are 11 and almost three, so I wanted to say What's advice for steering them in the right direction as they grow up in this next presidency era?
00:34:17.000Just with all the LGBTQ propaganda and stuff, what do you think is the best way to steer them away from that, but with a Christian basis, I guess?
00:34:28.000By the way, good that the high school is here, so that's awesome.
00:34:32.000Put God first and try to make Bible reading a regular discipline in your family.
00:34:37.000And the only one of the Ten Commandments that involves, this is what you tell your siblings, the only one of the Ten Commandments that involves a promise in your nation, you know which one it is?
00:34:46.000Is it the commandment about honoring your father and mother?
00:34:48.000Honor your mother and father so that you may live long in the land of which you are in.
00:34:52.000You need to be an example to your siblings about honoring and submitting to your parents, even when it's difficult.
00:34:57.000And your siblings will have a better life if they submit to your parents, as long as your parents aren't abusive, which I can't imagine they are, right?
00:35:04.000And so it's going to be difficult, but your siblings will look at you, about how you treat your parents, and that will keep your family closer together and closer to God.