Trump picks Bill Barr to be his next Attorney General, and it's not even close to being a boring news day. Charlie and I discuss why Bill Barr is the perfect choice, and why he deserves to be the next AG. We also discuss why he is a perfect fit for the job, and what he should do now that he's been confirmed as Trump's next AG pick. We also talk about how the Department of Justice has been used as a Soviet-style attack vector against the citizen-led populist movement, and how they have destroyed the reputation of a man who has spent his life fighting for the rights of all Americans. And we talk about why they should be embarrassed by what they've done to Matt Gaetz and his family, and the damage they can do to a person's reputation. We wrap up the show with a special guest who has been a long time supporter of Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk. Thank you Charlie for being on The Charlie Kirk Show, and for fighting for freedom on campuses across the country! Tweet me if you like the show! with your thoughts, opinions, or thoughts on any of the topics covered in the show. Timestamps: 1:00:00 - Who should be next AG nominee? 2:30 - Who do you think is the best choice? 3:15 - What kind of attorney general should Trump pick? 4:00- What are you would you like to see? 5:20 - What would you want to see next? 6:40 - What are your thoughts on Bill Barr? 7: What do you want in a new AG pick for President Trump? 8:00 9: What does a good attorney general look like? 11:15- What would be your priorities? 13:30- What is your biggest weakness? 14:00 | What are some sort of paper shuffling person? 15:30 | What does he deserve? 16:20 | What is a good candidate? 17:20 16 - Is he a good lawyer? 18:40 | Is he good at lawfareer? 19: Does he deserve to be an attorney general? 21:10 | What s a good guy? 22: Is he not good enough? 23:00 +16:30 Is he likely to be a great attorney general or not? 25:00 //
00:00:41.000His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:01.000Noble Gold Investments is the official gold sponsor of The Charlie Kirk Show, a company that specializes in gold IRAs and physical delivery of precious metals.
00:01:10.000Learn how you can protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments at noblegoldinvestments.com.
00:03:17.000Matt Gaetz, a story came out in the New York Times back in the spring of 2021 saying that Matt Gaetz was involved in underage sex trafficking, like the worst thing you could accuse somebody of.
00:03:30.000And then his father was blackmailed illegally and the people that were doing that ended up going to prison.
00:03:35.000And Matt Gaetz was guilty until proven innocent and he fought and he fought.
00:03:39.000These were anonymous sources and there were no charges.
00:03:42.000And this is what the Department of Justice made Matt Gaetz and his family go through.
00:03:46.000Look, Matt Gaetz would be the first one to tell you he's lived a full life.
00:03:50.000Found the love of his life and married Ginger Gates.
00:03:52.000Matt Gates is a great friend of mine, a friend of the program.
00:03:55.000But he is a victim of lawfare and he knows personally and intimately how vicious and unfounded these accusations can be.
00:04:05.000They can ruin your life just with a subpoena and a leak to the New York Times.
00:07:14.000John Cornyn voted for Merrick Garland.
00:07:16.000Merrick Garland, the craven lunatic that went after Donald Trump that we see, that bitter, angry, small man running DOJ. So if Republicans are willing to vote for Merrick Garland, why would you not vote for Matt Gaetz?
00:09:02.000So all of those Republicans voted for Merrick Garland that I just mentioned.
00:09:08.000If you're going to vote against Gates and you also voted against Merrick Garland, then maybe you're consistent.
00:09:12.000There is not a universe where we will accept on this program or at Turning Point Action where you will vote for Merrick Garland and you will vote no for Matt Gates.
00:09:21.000That will trigger an immediate primary challenge.
00:09:52.000Then why should Trump not get his cabinet?
00:09:55.000If the rules that you allow Joe Biden to get his Attorney General, why is it that you will not allow Donald Trump to get his Attorney General?
00:11:09.000If you give Joe Biden his people, why would you not give Donald Trump his people?
00:11:15.000And look, there's a psychological operation that is being run in the media right now trying to make it seem as if Matt Gaetz is not qualified.
00:11:43.000Gates also worked as a lawyer for many years.
00:11:47.000Look, here's the fundamental issue in front of us.
00:11:51.000Did the American people vote for more of the same or did they vote for fundamental change?
00:11:58.000Given that our past qualified nominees did things like unleash unprecedented political warfare, maybe our qualifications aren't a good measure.
00:12:08.000Maybe all the people we told are qualified end up being incredibly dangerous and treacherous against the American people.
00:15:06.000And I had this thought earlier and he distilled it better than I could have put it into words.
00:15:11.000Here is one factor that those who say Matt Gaetz is dead and not considering.
00:15:15.000Every Republican senator has donors, friends, staffers, constituents, and in some cases, kin, who want something from the incoming Trump administration, especially jobs.
00:15:25.000You think that the Trump White House is going to help out any senator who comes out against Gaetz?
00:16:23.000The story of MyPillow is a testament of faith and transformation.
00:16:27.000Mike Lindell, once battling addiction, found a new path when he embraced faith and began following Jesus.
00:16:33.000In gratitude, Mike is excited to share an exclusive offer with our listeners.
00:16:37.000Right now, the standard MyPillow is available for $14.88.
00:16:41.000The savings, that's too good to pass up.
00:16:43.000There's a limit of 10 per customer, so don't wait to take advantage of this amazing deal now with promo code KIRK. Mike believes God gave him this idea for MyPillow in a dream, and it's designed with your comfort in mind.
00:16:55.000The pillow holds its shape and adapts perfectly to your unique sleep position, helping keep your neck aligned for the best night's sleep.
00:17:03.000Take home a four-piece kitchen set for only $25 and enjoy their new mattress topper starting at $99.99, or pick up the luxurious MyPillow bed sheets starting at $49.98.
00:17:15.000Visit MyPillow.com or call 800-875-0425.
00:17:19.000Use promo code Kirk to unlock huge discounts.
00:18:18.000But I tell people we can't be out to lunch just because we won the election.
00:18:23.000And so to all the activists out there, to everybody that thinks, you know, we can just celebrate and go home, this is the time to shine.
00:18:30.000We have to hold—and by the way, I'm talking about Republicans—we have to hold a lot of these Republicans accountable to make sure that what we're doing actually fulfills the mandate that the American people send Trump back to office, took over the Senate, continue to keep the House, and now we need those policies that they are mandating that we bring to the American people.
00:18:55.000And speaking of Republicans, this is John Cornyn, cut 414.
00:19:00.000He's saying he wants to review the ethics report that was coming out of the House before Matt Gaetz decided he was going to resign, effective immediately.
00:19:15.000On the issue of vetting, though, how critical is it to have access to what the House Ethics Committee has found in their investigation?
00:19:22.000I think there should not be any limitation on the Senate Judiciary Committee's investigation, including whatever the House Ethics Committee has generated.
00:20:11.000I tell people that, you know, he is by far, it's an honor to have somebody like him represent me and my family because, you know, he's a fighter, right?
00:20:20.000And to have him now appointed as AG, of course the swamp's going to push back, right?
00:20:24.000But when, you know, when you have Republicans like John Cornyn, who needs Democrats?
00:20:28.000So I totally agree that this is going to be a knock-down, drag-out fight.
00:20:33.000Yes, they should ask Matt the tough questions, but he's ready for them.
00:20:40.000And look, the reason we love him is he doesn't have a lot of friends in Washington, D.C. But the reason I think that this Trump appointment of Matt Gaetz as Attorney General is so smart is because we're going to know right out of the chute Who's ready to fight for the America First movement?
00:20:56.000And who's ready to stand on the side of the swamp?
00:20:59.000That's what's the most important about this.
00:21:01.000John Thune has a great opportunity here.
00:21:17.000And if we, A, do the recess appointment, that'll show us right away that Thune's ready, at least for these first couple battles, to be on our side.
00:21:26.000And if it goes to a floor vote, I mean, we're going to know.
00:21:31.000And I'm going to stand here with Charlie, with you, and I'm going to say that I'm going to put the full force of my entire grassroots operation behind primarying any Republican that stands in the way of the America First movement.
00:21:50.000But if these folks don't get in line, if they block Donald Trump and his agenda, we will go to war and we will take them out politically.
00:21:58.000we will be on the ground in their state We will be turning out voters to primary them out of office.
00:22:05.000You have my word right here on the Charlie Kirk Show that we will stand there with you guys.
00:22:09.000We will put all of our time, energy, resources, everything we've got into primarying any of these Republicans who are weak and attempt to block Donald Trump.
00:22:19.000Well, Cliff, on that note, you know, we floated this that we were willing to go to South Dakota, we're willing to go to Texas, and I can't even tell you how many people in the grassroots came out and were basically like, hey, we have this venue, we've got these insiders, the grassroots, we've been looking for help and support.
00:22:38.000These guys have to know that this is not business as usual.
00:22:41.000This is not, you just, you got an R next to your name, you get through the primary if you're an incumbent, and then you just keep doing it.
00:22:59.000We're going to give these guys a chance.
00:23:01.000You know, Senator Thune, if you want to support the mandate that Trump won, not you, that Trump won, not you, if you want to support that mandate and give his nominees a chance because the American people gave President Trump a chance, it's great.
00:24:00.000Yeah, this is why when we launched the PA chase, I told people, I said, yes, we want to increase Trump's share of mail-in votes to 33%.
00:24:07.000But the reason I said that was not just because I thought we could win with 33% of the mail-ins.
00:24:13.000But because I knew that if we won by less than the amount of provisional ballots, we would be going through right now what Dave McCormick is going through, and they would drag this thing out for months, okay?
00:24:26.000And obviously, I'm very proud to say that we hit 34.5% of Trump getting those mail-in votes versus Harris.
00:24:40.000Got to give turning point action, early vote action, America first works, the Trump campaign, everybody gets credit, right?
00:24:46.000It was a grand just finale of people coming in to get us where we needed to be.
00:24:51.000But here's where we're at with McCormick, okay?
00:24:53.000We're up by roughly, let's say, 30,000 votes, and there's about 100,000 provisionals in the state.
00:24:59.000Okay, now provisionals, people have to understand what a provisional ballot is.
00:25:03.000In the old days, you'd think of a provisional as, well, they didn't fill in the circle fully, or they kind of marked both candidates, or somebody shows up and they're not registered to vote there, they're registered in a different precinct, so they put all these in a provisional pile, and typically they don't look at them because they're not needed unless the election is razor thin like it is now.
00:25:24.000But what's happened is, because of the mail-in voting, it causes a lot more issues that then get deemed provisional.
00:25:31.000Let me explain what those provisional issues would be.
00:25:34.000One, they don't sign the envelope on the provisional mail-in ballot.
00:25:41.000And three, they don't use the proper secrecy sleeve for the envelope.
00:25:46.000And so what happens there is that creates all of these different issues that then get put into a separate pile, batch by batch, county by county, that are considered provisional.
00:25:57.000And then yes, you have a couple of those like the old days where you have irregularities and somebody that came in and the ballot had some sort of issue.
00:26:05.000Okay, what's happened now is in Bucks County specifically, they are going against the Supreme Court's ruling that if they're not signed or they're not dated correctly, They're going to count them anyway.
00:27:33.000Even if all of the provisionals count, all 100,000, we still feel like we are in a position where he does not have the votes.
00:27:42.000There are not enough votes out there for Bob Casey, but Democrats want to put Dave McCormick through this pain, and they are the type of people I don't think they're going to relent.
00:27:56.000We could get to work for the American people within the U.S. Senate.
00:28:00.000I don't think he's going to do it, and unfortunately, that's the Democrat playbook.
00:28:05.000All right, so Mark Elias, real quick, boil it down, 30 seconds for us, Cliff.
00:28:10.000What's his role in this, and how is the RNC countering him?
00:28:13.000Yeah, so what he's doing right now is he's going out to counties that they think are going to be favorable for Bob Casey, and he is using every legal trick in the book to count these votes.
00:28:24.000Because remember, listen, when you're down, you want as many more potential votes as possible, right?
00:28:29.000You're not guaranteed to win in some of these counties, but you need more votes anyway, so why not go for them?
00:28:34.000So Elias is going county by county in Pennsylvania.
00:28:37.000He is working to pressure or file lawsuits to pressure these boards of elections to count all these provisionals.
00:28:45.000How many more votes can he get to count?
00:28:48.000And their hope is the more votes they count, the more likely it is they can make up for it.
00:28:55.000If your approach to everyday aches and pains is to mask them, you know, feel better for a few hours only to have the pain return and then repeat the cycle all over again.
00:30:12.000M-A-L-O-N-E-Y. Look, the Pennsylvania Chase was a smashing success.
00:30:17.000And like I said earlier, we've got all of our partners, including Turning Point Action, to thank for that.
00:30:22.000What I'm doing right now is pretty much over the next 30 to 60 days, we're going to be compiling our formal plan to relaunch the Pennsylvania Chase January 1 of 2025.
00:30:32.000Let me say that again, because I think people miss this.
00:30:57.000Yeah, so, you know, everybody thinks about 26 and 28, and at the end of the day, it's like, I want to match the Democrats, line item for line item of what they do.
00:31:06.000We did that during the presidential race with the PHAs.
00:31:09.000I mean, Scott Pressler registered more people than I think existed on the target list, you know, for Republicans in the past, and we have to keep matching them.
00:31:17.000So Scott's going to continue to register like a wild man that he is that gets it done.
00:31:22.000Turning Point Action is going to continue to do what they're doing in all the target states, building up.
00:31:27.000I mean, heck, if I could get Charlie Kirk to do an event at each of the target counties in PA, we'd probably be a permanent red state, right?
00:31:34.000But the idea that we can wait until 2026, we need to stop thinking about things like this.
00:31:51.000Okay, they were preparing for the 2024 election in 2021, right, after they won Pennsylvania.
00:31:58.000So we can't just show up every four years.
00:32:01.000We can't just show up every two years.
00:32:02.000So the next 30 to 60 days, yes, I'm going to put a plan together that really has a budget, and we're going to have exactly the operations that we want or that we need.
00:32:11.000And January 1 of 2025, we're going to launch it.
00:32:14.000We have three Supreme Court races in Pennsylvania in 2025.
00:32:18.000Okay, there is no off year in Pennsylvania.
00:32:21.000And so folks can follow me on x at Maloney.
00:32:25.000They can email me directly, cliff at pachase.com.
00:32:28.000We're going to need all hands on deck, and we are just simply doing one thing, fighting fire with fire and matching the Democrats' tactics.
00:32:37.000If we do that, I feel very confident that 2026 will not be some setback here, and that 2028 will be an even larger victory when we have in place permanent infrastructure.
00:32:51.000So how does this work in PA? You've got three PA Supreme Court justices up for retention in November 2025.
00:33:00.000So then if they vote no to retention, then there's special elections in 2027?
00:33:07.000But yes, the other thing I will share with you guys that are not that familiar with Pennsylvania is our mail-in ballot requests, they reset every year.
00:33:18.000So when you go to request your mail-in ballot, in some states, everybody gets sent a ballot.
00:33:23.000Every registered voter, the ballots go out when they go out and everybody gets them.
00:33:27.000In Pennsylvania, the reason we got crushed in 2020 is because Democrats understood this and they worked it to get people to request the ballot.
00:33:36.000If you got a ballot at your door, you were three to four times more likely to vote when you're just looking at those low propensity voters that we all targeted.
00:33:48.000Everybody has to request a ballot again, and we're trying to create that culture, that behavior of them being confident in requesting it and then dropping it off at their county office.
00:33:58.000So yes, we'll have retention elections to vote no.
00:34:01.000We'll have other local municipalities, school board races.
00:34:04.000But there are going to be races all across Pennsylvania.
00:34:07.000But the most important thing here is that it resets.
00:34:39.000The RNC, between 2020 and 2024, when you have Las Evita, Blair, Wiles, the whole, Whatley and Trump, I mean, everybody.
00:34:49.000They understood that we had to triple down on lawfare.
00:34:53.000We had to triple down on making sure that we're protected and we have election integrity.
00:34:57.000They've been three steps ahead on any issue we've had in Pennsylvania.
00:35:01.000And look, I'm grateful because I don't have the bandwidth.
00:35:04.000Scott Pressler doesn't have the bandwidth.
00:35:07.000We have the things that we were assigned to do.
00:35:09.000We went out and did our job, but none of it would have been worth it if we didn't have a legal team behind us backing up everything that we were doing to make sure that this was a fair election.
00:35:20.000So I feel very confident and I'm proud to say the RNC has just really stepped up and been there when the country needed them most.
00:35:31.000We don't have to litigate it now, but the change at the RNC, the timing of it turned out to be critically important to the outcome of this election.
00:35:39.000So, Cliff Maloney, P.A. Chase, keep doing your work.
00:35:41.000I have a feeling we're going to just, you know, keep doing even more work together in the years to come, Cliff.
00:35:47.000So, I'll see you tonight, hopefully, in South Florida.