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00:01:16.000Okay, everybody, let me tell you one of the reasons why we vote early.
00:01:18.000By the way, Andrew, my co-pilot and producer is here.
00:01:21.000I'm getting reports in North Carolina that Democrats are kind of throwing up their hands like volunteers.
00:01:27.000And they're saying there's just so much Trump surge, they don't think they can win North Carolina, and they're just starting to kind of give up in the mountains.
00:01:34.000That doesn't mean that we're going to win.
00:01:36.000What I'm saying, though, is one of the reasons you vote early is that you kind of punch the enemy in the face a little bit, metaphorically.
00:02:16.000Going back to our dichotomy between conservatives and progressives, conservatives thrive off optimism and progressives thrive off being their backs against the wall.
00:02:28.000But that is different than being dejected, right?
00:03:48.000So, yeah, no, honestly, we had the earlier book this year, and thank you for having us on and the great intro there.
00:03:55.000And by the way, I have my I Voted sticker because, yes, even in the great state of Pennsylvania, just like all the swing states, you can vote early.
00:04:38.000What I mean is you can go even on the weekend to the county board of elections or to various, they have like mobile election centers that are set up around the counties in some areas.
00:05:48.000Literally, you can just drive down to the election board.
00:05:51.000But I always tell people, just check with your county because each county, as you say, does have slight differences in terms of the times.
00:05:57.000In terms of the ways that you do it, but in all of the big counties that I've been traveling around in, going up to Scranton, going down to the Philadelphia area, going out to the Pittsburgh area, going into the Harrisburg area, State College, etc., where Charlie and I were, that's basically been the same, that system.
00:06:39.000And we went through the history of that.
00:06:41.000And then as that book was coming out, two things happened.
00:06:44.000Number one, Steve Bannon, who wrote the forward to that book, was sent to jail as a political prisoner.
00:06:49.000And then number two, just about two weeks after that book came out, Donald Trump was shot in Butler, Pennsylvania.
00:06:57.000And as we were in the course of basically doing the press for the previous book, my co-author Joshua, who's here, he came to me and said, Jack, we need to write a book about this.
00:07:12.000And then I said, well, there's no way our publisher would want to do this.
00:07:15.000And then, of course, the publisher hits us up from Skyhorse and says, you guys need to write a book about this.
00:07:19.000Because this is something that, unfortunately, we had actually predicted in the prior book, is that if we were in a regular communist revolution, what are some of the things we would see?
00:07:28.000We would see political prisoners, we would see lawfare, and we would see political assassination attempts.
00:07:33.000And then all three of those things happen within two weeks of the book coming out.
00:07:37.000And so we put it together and just a huge labor of love, a lot of late nights, a lot of deep research as much as possible.
00:07:46.000And then as we're putting the final touches on it, they try it again.
00:07:53.000Well, of course, a manuscript had actually been due on September 12th.
00:07:56.000So I got to make that fun phone call and use that great Hollywood phrase, stop the presses.
00:08:02.000But Charlie, I know you know that I also got to learn that in real life when you say stop the presses, it's actually very expensive to stop the presses because you've obviously been printing and so you have to scrap and pulp everything that's been printed up to that point.
00:08:15.000But I said, guys, They just try to do this again, and we need to get that information in there because this second one has direct ties to Ukraine, direct ties to the Azov Battalion, direct ties to a lot of the shady stuff that this election is all about.
00:08:30.000But most importantly, the idea is that no one's talking about this.
00:08:35.000It's just not been part of the zeitgeist.
00:08:37.000We all saw a miracle happen on July 13th.
00:09:05.000And so it was just very special that he was able to do that for us.
00:09:09.000And that's just the kind of people the Trumps are.
00:09:11.000That if you ask them for help with something, they will come in and help you as much as they can.
00:09:16.000And it was just an incredible experience.
00:09:18.000And yeah, we've got the book out and it comes out today.
00:09:20.000And we've even got, in fact, more information than is in the public record.
00:09:25.000Because I said, I don't want to just run around and like, You know, pull a bunch of the articles together.
00:09:29.000I need to produce something new so we even have new information in this that has not yet been revealed.
00:09:34.000I mean, as you were talking about that, Jack, I just kept thinking to myself, like, you know, of all the times I wish Jack Posobiec and Joshua Lysak were not right, this would be the time.
00:09:45.000And what a tragedy that you were right, frankly, and that you were, you know, I think a lot of people with these types of topics think, oh, you're being hyperbolic, you're being, you know, you're intentionally provocative, like, actually, you were spot on and what a tragedy.
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00:11:11.000Yes, so the moment that I had heard that Donald Trump had survived an assassination attempt, I was sitting in a Thai restaurant and one of the Moms for Liberty ladies texts me.
00:11:24.000And she texted me, this one text, She said, referencing my book, So Good They Call You a Fake.
00:11:30.000And I have like a little shtick about that.
00:11:31.000She said, so good they tried to kill you.
00:12:23.000And immediately that very same day, I began writing about this.
00:12:28.000And the way I started the writing was I asked myself if this was written as if it were a novel with that sort of story element and the narrative and the emotion and the vibe and the feel that was compelling in that way versus a Wikipedia-style recitation of facts, true and false.
00:12:50.000I began writing the first chapter, which is now the first chapter, the opening chapter, The seconds leading up to the seconds of and the seconds following the Butler, Pennsylvania assassination attempt.
00:13:02.000I began writing it that very night, July 13th, that Saturday.
00:13:07.000It was in the following days that we began working on this more.
00:13:11.000And we looked at some of the best-selling books that cover the JFK assassination and how those were structured.
00:13:20.000We looked at others that have been successful.
00:13:22.000And we began structuring an outline for this book based on that.
00:13:25.000And my process with books is I like to do the hard stuff first.
00:13:29.000And the most difficult part of any book is the structure.
00:13:32.000What goes where in what order and how deep do you get into the material?
00:13:35.000And so that was the process is laying out those nine days in July, how everything changed, how this shot meant for Donald Trump took out Joe Biden.
00:13:45.000And then after that failed, they tried again.
00:13:51.000And so the process of first getting the outline and then going from outline to opening hook for each chapter.
00:14:00.000And then Jack, meanwhile, is Sending me every five minutes, three or four links or PDFs or reports or interview transcripts that he's had.
00:14:10.000All of the above he is getting me and it's a compilation process and is turning facts and figures and tweets and interview transcripts and all that into narrative so that the final product, the bulletproof book, it reads like a whodunit mystery, but it's nonfiction.
00:14:29.000And furthermore, What Jack spearheaded was this private investigation into the life and times of the butler shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks and did his deep dive digging into Ryan Wesley Routh and his background.
00:14:42.000He broke some stories related to both of those through his show and through his reporting and we have even more material on both of that that is exclusive reporting and it's inside of the private investigative report that appears inside the Bulletproof book.
00:14:57.000The unfortunate aspect of this is yes, We do believe that it was a miracle that Donald J. Trump survived.
00:15:05.000But our reality seems to be one that has two sides.
00:15:55.000The consolation though, of course, was that What they witnessed was 100,000 people surrounding them in grieving with him and celebrating the life of this great American hero.
00:16:09.000And of course, when Lee Greenwood is up there singing God Bless the USA, and there's that line about remembering those men who died to give that right to me as an American, all of us are thinking that's Cori Compertori.
00:17:32.000Jack, let me ask you, in your research of this book, what did you learn about Trump almost dying a couple millimeters away that you want our audience to know?
00:17:40.000What was the most shocking piece of information that you learned?
00:17:46.000Well, that's exactly what I was going to say, Charlie.
00:17:49.000So look, I don't trust the federal government.
00:17:51.000I think that's something that probably all of us in the MAGA and MAHA and just libertarian and whatever you want to call it sphere all share is that we don't trust the feds or the crypto guys, etc.
00:18:03.000And the idea being here that we should just trust the FBI and the CIA and the Secret Service, and they're going to put out all the information that we want, especially when the House is coming out saying that the Female lead agent on this only had four years on the job at the Secret Service, four years out of Fletzi, which is their academy down in Brunswick, Georgia.
00:18:25.000Or the fact that the guy who was operating the drone only had done one online course in drone work before this and spent most of the day on customer service and customer support.
00:18:36.000We don't trust them, and we hired our own private investigators who are licensed in the state of Pennsylvania.
00:18:42.000They're operating, and by the way, continue to operate in Bethel Park, Pennsylvania and Butler, Pennsylvania and thereabouts, because we want to find out through the shoe leather reporting, knocking on doors, going to the gun range, going to various places associated with Thomas Matthew Crooks and being a little cagey about that, but it all will be explained in due time to find out really what was going on.
00:19:09.000And look, knocking on the doors of his neighbors and finding out that there were cars and vehicles going to visit that home in days and weeks leading up to the shooting.
00:19:22.000We actually did device analysis that goes beyond what Heritage Action put out or Heritage Oversight put out.
00:19:28.000Yeah, Jack, so you're getting at something that is kind of one of those long running rumors online that you're not going to hear about from official sources.
00:19:37.000You're talking about he had devices that were encrypted, had overseas connections.
00:19:45.000I don't know much about it because, you know, a lot of the details that I've seen have not been reliably sourced.
00:20:03.000First of all, yes, regarding the foreign encrypted email accounts, it does look like he used those to procure some of the weapons or at least the ammo that he used, maybe not the gun itself, which he bought from his father, which, by the way, we broke the story in the course of researching this, that Eric Olshan, the U.S. Attorney for the Western District of Pennsylvania, has opened a grand jury investigation into this and more than likely is looking at the father.
00:20:27.000You can see that based on the Defense firm that he's hired.
00:20:30.000And we've also been able to see just through our own reporting that it does look like he was in communication with some devices that have, I will just say they have the profile of burner phones, phones that were active for periods of time.
00:20:44.000They go dormant for long periods of time, come active again late at night in locations that are quite remote, not like, you know, a work or a home, but, you know, these remote locations, they become active, then go dormant again, both leading up to on the day before, on the day of the shooting.
00:21:02.000And then after the shooting, even these devices, these burner like devices stay active.
00:21:08.000So that's something that we're following up on.
00:21:10.000And again, the information about the grand jury investigation, which I guess Politico and the Washington Post and the New York Times just really weren't interested in.
00:21:17.000But, you know, Joshua Lysak and I found that out just doing basic document requests in the area.
00:21:22.000And one of the document requests that we did came back and said, hey, we can't give you that from the Allegheny Community College said we can't do that because those are subject to a grand jury subpoena.
00:22:05.000You know, I actually had a conversation with Noah Formica of Turning Point Action, who, as it turns out, interacted with Thomas Matthew Crooks.
00:22:14.000You can see him in that sort of TikTok video where Crooks was walking around the vendor area and Turning Point had the, you know, had the sign-up sheet and Noah, just doing his job, is saying, hey, are you registered to vote?
00:22:26.000You registered your current address, absentee ballot, all that, like we were talking about earlier.
00:22:30.000And he said Crooks was It was very arrogant to him and sort of stuck his nose up in the air, wouldn't respond, but he said he almost scoffed.
00:22:40.000He said he almost scoffed with an arrogance of some sort, or as if he had some sort of secret knowledge about something that was about to happen, as if almost, you know, looking back through it, In hindsight, almost if he knew that he would be able to get up on the building.
00:22:56.000And by the way, he was not walking around with his backpacks.
00:22:59.000We still don't know to this point where exactly the gun was when he was walking around.
00:23:03.000I'm sure that Noah Formica and probably everybody would have stopped him if they saw him with a gun walking around.
00:23:29.000Then, Ryan Wesley Ruth, this guy, Ruth was more...
00:23:34.000Prone, I would say, to flights of fancy.
00:23:37.000He had a lot of main character syndrome, I guess, is what you would call it psychologically.
00:23:43.000You know, he believes he's this dashing figure who's going off to Ukraine to fight evil and save the world.
00:23:49.000He wrote a manifesto of sorts and uploaded the entire thing to Amazon, which You know, we have where he's talking about trying to get foreign fighters from Afghanistan and bring them to Ukraine and going on and on and on about how Donald Trump needs to support Ukraine more and how this is the fight for freedom and the fight for heroes.
00:24:09.000So I would say there's a contrast because while one has these delusions of grandeur, but Perhaps where the similarity lies is one has delusions of grandeur in that they think that they are the main character of these great epochs of history and that by perhaps taking out Donald Trump, and again, he even wrote this dead man's letter that he gave to his neighbor talking about a bounty on Trump that Trump needs to be taken out, and the DOJ, of course, puts that out without any redactions.
00:24:37.000We go, thanks so much, DOJ, really appreciate that.
00:24:41.000And then second, whereas with Crooks, again, that arrogance, that belief that perhaps he was superior, that belief that I'm going to take this guy out.
00:24:52.000Remember, Crooks is an ActBlue donor to do so in order to achieve notoriety.
00:24:59.000And, you know, people have tried to put him more in a school shooter type of vein where, you know, he'd been looking up Ethan Crumbly and some of the other school shooters.
00:25:09.000And so, you know, it does seem, though, that both did so looking for fame, looking for celebrity, looking for doing something where they'd be able to make their mark on the world stage.
00:25:20.000And both of them viewed taking out Donald Trump as the best way that they would be celebrated by The media is celebrated by history, and I think that it really is an indictment of our times to thinking that killing a man, a father, and a grandfather, and of course, by the way, Cory Campatore was also killed in all of this, was murdered, and his family deserves answers on this.
00:25:42.000That psychologically, we live in a society where half of the country kind of thought it would be good.
00:25:49.000And I think there's a polling that 32% of the country wished that the assassin's bullet on July 13th had found purchase.
00:25:57.000Joshua, let me ask you, in your research of this, we only have about two and a half minutes remaining.
00:26:02.000Do you believe that the United States Secret Service was at any point compromised?
00:26:07.000This is an interesting question because it's one that has been largely ignored in both the mainstream and alternative spaces where we see the phrase security failures, multiple security failures, unprecedented security failures.
00:26:20.000We believe that that's going in the wrong direction.
00:26:23.000And in fact, what if these security failures were in fact tactical successes?
00:26:29.000So when we went to Butler, Jack's been there a couple of times now, and we scooped this whole place out.
00:26:33.000What we noticed is how deep in the pocket of presidential security, Thomas Matthew Crooks, was we noticed his behavior on video and in images and from multiple bystanders and eyewitnesses.
00:26:46.000He's acting calm, cool, collected, confident, and as Jack pointed out, cocky.
00:26:51.000This is not somebody who's acting like he needs to hide or is concerned about getting caught.
00:26:57.000And with all the security failures that just so happened to all happen on that same day, we did a little social experiment.
00:27:03.000We ran the probability and we found That there is a one in one septillion chance that Thomas Matthew Crooks was 140 yards away with a firearm at the same time on the same day that all these other security failures are all happening all at once.
00:27:21.000The odds of that happening all by chance probability is one in one septillion, which is the equivalent of flipping a coin and it lands on heads 93 times in a row.
00:27:36.000I mean, I'm laughing because I am not a conspiracy theorist, but of course.
00:27:44.000And Jack, you kind of started out this whole interview by saying, I don't trust the federal government.
00:27:48.000And the Democrats will tell you that that's terrible and our side is corrosive on the institutions of America, whatever.
00:27:56.000It's like, no guys, you didn't earn it.
00:27:58.000We've been through this so many times, whether it be COVID, whether it be laptop from hell, whether it be any number of things.
00:28:05.000And we just don't trust these people anymore.
00:28:08.000And I laugh because, you know, you either laugh or cry at this state of things because I want to trust our authorities and I just, you know, I think it's terrible for our country that we can't and that we don't.
00:30:12.000And Charlie, you know that we see this throughout the Bible, that God uses the lesson of humility and becoming humble when he wants to raise up a great leader.
00:30:25.000And for all of the incredible attributes and qualities that Donald Trump has, I don't know that humility is something that I'd put on the top of the list.
00:30:32.000But there seems to have been since this moment, in this very moment where it looks as though he's in prayer.
00:30:40.000I believe that he spoke to his creator in that moment.
00:30:44.000And that's what gave him the strength to then raise himself up on his feet.
00:30:52.000As bullets were flying, something you've never seen and talked to anybody, SEAL Team 6, Delta Force, whatever, that you don't get up when there's bullets flying, when the snipers come out.
00:31:02.000No, you stay down and you get to your SUV, you get to your Humvee, whatever it is, you get out of there, get off the X.