The Charlie Kirk Show - November 06, 2024


The Greatest Comeback Story in American History


Episode Stats

Length

49 minutes

Words per Minute

185.90756

Word Count

9,252

Sentence Count

989

Misogynist Sentences

20

Hate Speech Sentences

4


Summary

Donald Trump has been elected President of the United States of America. On this episode of the CharlieKirkShow, host Brett Schafer and co-host Andrew Yang Yang celebrate the historic victory of Donald Trump in the presidential election and reflect on the incredible work of the Turning Point USA youth organization, which helped elect the President-Elect Donald Trump on Tuesday, November 8, 2020. They also discuss the impact of turning out the vote on the ground game in Wisconsin and the impact it had on the outcome of the election and how important it was to have a candidate like Charlie Kirk on the campaign trail and on college campuses across the country. They also talk about the importance of having a candidate who is truly dedicated to our country and who is willing to put in the work to make a difference in order to elect a President. Thank you to everyone who helped elect Donald Trump, and thank you to all the activists who worked so hard to get him on the ballot and helped get him elected. It's been an honor and a privilege to have Charlie on the show. Peace, Blessings, Cheers, Brett and Andrew. -Jon Sorrentino - The Charlie Kirk Show and the Andrew Yang Podcast is a production of Noble Gold Investments, a company that specializes in gold and precious metals and physical delivery of precious metals. Learn how you can protect your wealth with noblegold.investments. That's where I buy all of my gold. That is noblegoldinvestments! Go to your gold! -Noble Gold Investments is the official sponsor of the show, Noble Gold Investing Investments. . (NobleGoldInvestments.co) , the official gold sponsor of The Charliekirk Show, the company that provides you with the best gold and silver and precious metal delivery service in the entire world. (Sponsored by NobleGold.investing in the world! ) & much more! , go to noblegoldindications.co/theCharlieKirkshow.co to receive a discount code: at NobleGoldInvesting.org/thecharliekirkshow to get 20% off your first order of $200 or more than $200,000 in the show when you buy a piece of gold and receive 5% off the offer of $300,000 or more? Learn how to protect your gold and other precious metals at Noblegold.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:01.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
00:00:03.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:07.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:00:10.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:11.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:12.000 His spirit, his love of this country.
00:00:14.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:00:29.000 That's why we are here.
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00:00:57.000 Hey everybody, what a day!
00:01:00.000 Oh my goodness.
00:01:01.000 Woo!
00:01:03.000 Did anybody sleep?
00:01:06.000 Like an hour.
00:01:07.000 I slept two and a half hours, and I've never had more energy.
00:01:10.000 Yeah, no, I feel totally fresh, but I mean, I was arguing with reporters at 5 in the morning, so...
00:01:14.000 I slept for 89 minutes, and then I was arguing with activists.
00:01:18.000 I want to say, guys, you had to endure with me in this audience every day when I said, find new voters.
00:01:23.000 Remember all summer?
00:01:24.000 I said, find new voters.
00:01:25.000 I said, go chase new voters.
00:01:27.000 Now, I want to say this, guys.
00:01:28.000 Based on the emails we received yesterday and the ground game we have in Wisconsin, I can say you guys made a difference in winning Wisconsin.
00:01:35.000 And with that, getting Donald Trump declared the victor on election night, which was massive, right?
00:01:41.000 Massive so that they couldn't continue their hocus pocus, right?
00:01:44.000 The American psyche needed it.
00:01:46.000 So Donald Trump, everybody, is president-elect.
00:01:49.000 Can we get the chyron just to say that?
00:01:51.000 Trump is president-elect?
00:01:53.000 Yes, that's what we need.
00:01:55.000 There should be a dash between President and elected.
00:01:57.000 I mean, I literally collapsed last night.
00:02:00.000 Dude, this video's going viral on the internet right now.
00:02:04.000 I don't think it's a bad video, though.
00:02:05.000 No, it's a great...
00:02:06.000 You retweeted it.
00:02:07.000 It's amazing.
00:02:08.000 It's the best video.
00:02:09.000 I love this video.
00:02:11.000 Actually, I'm not going to lie, I watched it back this morning and I got a little misty.
00:02:16.000 It's so amazing because people are used to political actors being slick.
00:02:21.000 They're used to thinking, to some extent, they're running a grift.
00:02:25.000 It really showed how much it meant to you, how much effort you'd put in for years that it really mattered.
00:02:32.000 You really cared exactly as much as you said.
00:02:34.000 I'm going to get emotional again, but the amount of people that...
00:02:38.000 I'm going to make people watch it.
00:02:40.000 No, I mean just the amount of people that wished us dead.
00:02:43.000 Tyler's still under indictment over this stuff.
00:02:45.000 Hold on.
00:02:47.000 They're going to want to kill us more.
00:02:50.000 Let's just relive it.
00:02:51.000 Let's bask a little bit.
00:02:52.000 Let's bask in the afterglow.
00:02:54.000 We control the executive branch of government.
00:02:55.000 Alright, here.
00:02:56.000 237.
00:02:57.000 Please play.
00:02:58.000 Charlie Kirk starts crying after hearing that Donald Trump won the election.
00:03:03.000 If anyone deserves to get tears in his eyes, it's Charlie...
00:03:07.000 I think we all agree.
00:03:08.000 I think Erica was chopping some onions or something in the break room.
00:03:11.000 No one has worked harder than Charlie for this.
00:03:13.000 We gotta hear some words here from you, Charlie.
00:03:16.000 You put all this together, my man.
00:03:17.000 Let's hear it.
00:03:18.000 I am just humbled by God's grace.
00:03:21.000 It's all God.
00:03:23.000 It's all God.
00:03:24.000 God alone.
00:03:26.000 God alone.
00:03:27.000 That's all I can say.
00:03:29.000 It's done.
00:03:32.000 It's beginning.
00:03:32.000 Brett, how are we doing at HQ? Are you still at HQ? That was awesome.
00:03:37.000 Yeah.
00:03:37.000 Gets me going again.
00:03:40.000 Again, it's just kind of one big thing.
00:03:42.000 I said it before.
00:03:43.000 I said, if we were to win, it's not us.
00:03:45.000 It's God showing his mercy and grace on an undeserving country.
00:03:48.000 We deserved judgment last night.
00:03:49.000 We turned our back on him.
00:03:51.000 But honestly, the American people began to turn the face towards him, as it says in 1 Chronicles.
00:03:56.000 And just this spiritual war.
00:03:58.000 Man, did we not feel the spiritual elements throughout this entire election, Andrew?
00:04:02.000 We talked about it a lot.
00:04:04.000 Especially the weekend leading into Tuesday.
00:04:08.000 We're just going to bounce all over the place, guys.
00:04:10.000 Blake, you would agree that Seltzer poll was an asymmetrical attack.
00:04:17.000 I'm not saying it was intentional.
00:04:18.000 I'm just saying that what it did to us, it was a legit demoralization campaign.
00:04:24.000 It freaked people out to a dramatic degree.
00:04:26.000 It was what the left seized on.
00:04:29.000 It gave them all that sense of momentum.
00:04:31.000 Any sense of momentum they had going in was from that poll.
00:04:34.000 It was...
00:04:35.000 You know, you heard people complain about hurting in the polls.
00:04:37.000 What if all the polls are fake, but this time they're overestimating Trump?
00:04:41.000 I saw pretty smart people say, what if actually the numbers show that Harris is going to win in a landslide, but they're just too scared to say it because they've been burned before?
00:04:49.000 Because they predicted a landslide in 2016?
00:04:51.000 Didn't happen.
00:04:52.000 They predicted a landslide in 2020?
00:04:55.000 Didn't happen.
00:04:55.000 This time they predicted a close race and we got a Trump landslide.
00:04:59.000 So, here's the best analogy.
00:05:01.000 On election day, I said this.
00:05:02.000 I said, have you guys ever been in a plane where you're in the clouds and you can't see the ground and you're a passenger and it kind of freaks you out and you know you're descending?
00:05:10.000 Do you know what I'm talking about?
00:05:11.000 Yes.
00:05:12.000 And you're the window seat.
00:05:13.000 Especially a small plane.
00:05:14.000 Yeah.
00:05:14.000 So, do you know what I'm talking about?
00:05:16.000 Do you know this phenomenon?
00:05:18.000 Oh yeah, I totally do.
00:05:19.000 Especially Santa Barbara.
00:05:20.000 There's so much fog.
00:05:21.000 I turned to Mikey and I said, you know what this election's like?
00:05:23.000 It's you're in the pilot and you have to trust your instruments even though you can't see the ground.
00:05:28.000 Because all the data was telling us something, right?
00:05:30.000 And you have to be like, okay, our instruments say that we're 3,000 feet above the ground.
00:05:34.000 Our instruments say that the runway is right there, and we're in the clouds, and we don't know where we're going.
00:05:39.000 And all of a sudden, boom, we broke through last night.
00:05:42.000 Tony Fabrizio from the Trump campaign.
00:05:44.000 Again, we were allowed to look at these numbers for data and canvassing purposes, right?
00:05:48.000 We were, because of the FPC ruling.
00:05:49.000 Grassroots.
00:05:50.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:05:51.000 Grassroots.
00:05:51.000 Tony Fabrizio deserves so much credit here.
00:05:54.000 He's the Trump pollster.
00:05:55.000 He got this thing so right.
00:05:58.000 And I'm not saying, like, again, he literally said, if Trump does not win Pennsylvania by three, all my polling is wrong.
00:06:05.000 Final canvas, Trump won Pennsylvania by three.
00:06:07.000 I mean, he got this thing to a chef's kiss.
00:06:10.000 The night before the election was like, Wisconsin's going to be a little bit closer, point, point and a half.
00:06:15.000 He's like, Michigan, I think it's going to be a point and a half to two points.
00:06:17.000 He's like, I think we win Florida by 15 points, like 13 points.
00:06:20.000 This guy had it all.
00:06:21.000 And again, I was working the phones with JD, with the team.
00:06:24.000 And they're like, the data's the data.
00:06:26.000 This is the best pollster in the business.
00:06:28.000 Fabrizio is the gold standard.
00:06:30.000 And...
00:06:30.000 I was like, guys, I don't know.
00:06:33.000 He deserves a lot of credit.
00:06:36.000 They framed the entire work in working with outside groups, like us, around those polls.
00:06:45.000 That's what's understandable.
00:06:46.000 The understanding of where you need to target, how much you need to do.
00:06:50.000 And obviously the campaign went all in on Pennsylvania because it became very clear that that's what matters the most.
00:06:56.000 They got it across the finish line to that exact number.
00:07:00.000 And if something goes wrong there, it throws off the entire machine.
00:07:07.000 And Blake, it turns out that they were confident for good reason.
00:07:10.000 They really did nail it.
00:07:12.000 It's so interesting to see the stuff that we speculated could play a factor, and it really did pan out.
00:07:19.000 I'm looking at Michigan right now.
00:07:21.000 Most counties in Michigan shifted to the right, but by two points, three points.
00:07:26.000 Wayne County, Detroit, ten points more Republican.
00:07:30.000 Are you kidding me?
00:07:30.000 The most by far.
00:07:31.000 I mean...
00:07:32.000 The Dearborn thing worked.
00:07:33.000 It mattered.
00:07:34.000 Guys, I mean, there's so many great clips to play here.
00:07:36.000 And I just...
00:07:38.000 There was...
00:07:39.000 Andrew, to his credit, was like, Charlie, I think this is a nationwide refutation that's going to be against wokeism.
00:07:46.000 And Andrew's actually a good bearing for this, being in Santa Barbara.
00:07:50.000 And can I just share...
00:07:51.000 Actually, you know what?
00:07:52.000 There's a lot...
00:07:52.000 People in Santa Barbara are fed up with it, too.
00:07:54.000 So, and guys, by the way, we're live right now on AM 560.
00:08:01.000 So the Illinois data is not clear.
00:08:03.000 People said it's four points.
00:08:04.000 It's really now seven, eight points in Illinois.
00:08:05.000 That's what I was seeing last night.
00:08:06.000 That's why I was getting confused.
00:08:07.000 But MSNBC was doing four points.
00:08:08.000 They were.
00:08:09.000 The point being is Illinois is way closer than it should be.
00:08:11.000 New Jersey.
00:08:12.000 Look at New Jersey.
00:08:14.000 Somerset County in New Jersey moved to the right by 25 points.
00:08:17.000 And by the way, that is one of the big storylines.
00:08:20.000 Hispanics.
00:08:21.000 Trump...
00:08:23.000 Outright won.
00:08:24.000 This one right up here?
00:08:25.000 Sussex County?
00:08:29.000 Passaic County?
00:08:30.000 Passaic County is a majority Hispanic county that Trump won.
00:08:33.000 There's a county that's 96% Hispanic, Starr County, I believe, on the U.S.-Mexico border.
00:08:39.000 Hillary won it by 60 points.
00:08:42.000 60?
00:08:42.000 60 points in 2016.
00:08:44.000 Trump flipped it.
00:08:46.000 I think it's Trump plus 16 even.
00:08:48.000 A 76-point realignment.
00:08:50.000 And by the way, I have to say, one of the most delicious things I've ever had in my life was waiting up until 4 a.m.
00:08:56.000 local to watch Morning Joe.
00:08:57.000 And I have to say, I have to say something.
00:09:00.000 Joe Scarborough was like eerily professional.
00:09:02.000 He nailed it.
00:09:04.000 And he was, I don't know.
00:09:05.000 It was like his inner Republican.
00:09:07.000 It was like the orders on high.
00:09:08.000 He didn't make, and by the way, he was right.
00:09:10.000 He's like, this is bigger than Trump.
00:09:11.000 This is a, can we, can we, can we get the tape of that?
00:09:15.000 Yeah.
00:09:16.000 Everybody, this is a beautiful day.
00:09:17.000 By the way, this is, you know, it's not like just like winning the Super Bowl.
00:09:19.000 You forget about it.
00:09:20.000 This is, guys, this is an era now.
00:09:22.000 I have breaking news.
00:09:24.000 Is it about Arizona?
00:09:25.000 But it's good.
00:09:26.000 What?
00:09:28.000 Yeah.
00:09:29.000 The Democrat that was running for county recorder in Maricopa County called Justin Heap and already conceded.
00:09:36.000 That's amazing.
00:09:37.000 No, it's over.
00:09:38.000 Once you concede, you're out.
00:09:40.000 Wow.
00:09:41.000 We have a conservative Freedom Caucus member as county recorder for the next four years in Maricopa County.
00:09:47.000 So wait, can we fix this?
00:09:47.000 Just so we're clear.
00:09:48.000 We still only have 63% of the vote in.
00:09:50.000 Guys, just so we're clear.
00:09:51.000 I'm looking at the country.
00:09:52.000 Maine has 81% of its votes counted.
00:09:54.000 Alaska has 71% of their votes counted, and they literally have to put votes on planes.
00:09:58.000 It's literally tomorrow.
00:10:00.000 We're beating California, and that's it.
00:10:02.000 Yeah.
00:10:03.000 We have 63% of our votes counted.
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00:10:57.000 One of the crazy things is that in Penn State, Center County...
00:11:01.000 We said we were going to pull a flag there.
00:11:04.000 We freaking won Center County.
00:11:07.000 The youth vote.
00:11:09.000 Michigan.
00:11:11.000 We won the youth vote in Center County.
00:11:14.000 This fits perfectly.
00:11:16.000 Riley Lenting, who is our rep in Michigan, right outside of Wayne County, so we're just talking about that, she's right in that Detroit metropolitan area, won against her Democratic opponent last night by 2,000 votes, a little less than 2,000 votes, and I think it was like a D plus 6 district.
00:11:41.000 That's crazy.
00:11:43.000 Let's play some of the national reaction here.
00:11:47.000 Do we have some of the kind of libs melting down?
00:11:50.000 Let's play...
00:11:50.000 Do we have Scarborough or no?
00:11:53.000 Yeah, we do.
00:11:54.000 I want to wait for radio to get that...
00:11:55.000 Rav and radio for that one back here.
00:11:58.000 But...
00:11:58.000 Jeez.
00:12:00.000 The monumental shift here.
00:12:02.000 We always were like landslide.
00:12:04.000 We actually got the landslide, guys.
00:12:06.000 We got the landslide that we were always hoping for and wishing for.
00:12:10.000 Was there a county where Kamala did better than Biden?
00:12:12.000 There's a few counties.
00:12:14.000 Nothing too dramatic.
00:12:15.000 Let me bring up the map here.
00:12:17.000 Some of those in Georgia.
00:12:18.000 Some of them.
00:12:18.000 Georgia is the most notable one in terms of you have several counties looking at them.
00:12:24.000 Georgia was a squeaker.
00:12:24.000 They're all exurbs of Atlanta.
00:12:26.000 So I think what they are is because some of them are actually quite Republican.
00:12:29.000 I think what it is is Atlanta is encroaching on those places.
00:12:32.000 So you have blue Atlanta people in what was once a super red county.
00:12:37.000 Some parts of Colorado has a lot of points that moved pretty blue.
00:12:41.000 I don't know what's going on there.
00:12:42.000 Maybe it's people who moved there during COVID or something.
00:12:45.000 It's Californians that moved to Colorado.
00:12:47.000 I know a ton of Californians.
00:12:49.000 The libs of California moved to Colorado.
00:12:51.000 The conservatives moved to Texas, Florida, Tennessee, Nevada.
00:12:54.000 Yeah, you have a similar thing.
00:12:56.000 Parts of North Carolina got more blue.
00:12:57.000 I think it looks, again, it's like suburban counties outside these big metros.
00:13:01.000 The North Carolina counties were hurricane- It was turnout-related.
00:13:09.000 Transylvania County?
00:13:11.000 Yeah.
00:13:11.000 Okay, that can make sense.
00:13:13.000 I've seen analysis on that, and it checks out.
00:13:18.000 Okay, everybody.
00:13:19.000 By the way, I want to see and hear what you guys were doing to celebrate.
00:13:23.000 Freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:13:24.000 Send us pictures, videos.
00:13:25.000 Freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:13:27.000 That is freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:13:29.000 My goodness.
00:13:31.000 Look at this.
00:13:32.000 Harris is running behind Biden in Dane County, University of Wisconsin.
00:13:36.000 Pitt, ECU. Clark, UGA. Tweet.
00:13:42.000 Wait, we mean all the campuses we visited?
00:13:44.000 Every single one that we visited?
00:13:46.000 And she's currently losing to Trump in Center County PA, home of Penn State.
00:13:50.000 Biden won it by four.
00:13:52.000 Wait, so every place that we did approve me wrong and that we brought in thousands of young people, we actually end up overperforming the Democrat candidate?
00:13:59.000 It's weird how that works.
00:14:01.000 Strange stuff.
00:14:02.000 It's called muscle.
00:14:04.000 Grassroots muscle.
00:14:05.000 Grassroots humility.
00:14:06.000 Grassroots humility at the start.
00:14:09.000 Everybody, this is just historic.
00:14:11.000 I am blown away.
00:14:11.000 I am humbled that we could play a role.
00:14:13.000 And you guys played a big role.
00:14:14.000 Every single one of you, by the way, that registered a new voter.
00:14:18.000 Every one of you that wore that MAGA hat and found a new voter.
00:14:20.000 You did this, guys.
00:14:21.000 You did this!
00:14:22.000 Remember, I was nagging them every day.
00:14:24.000 How many times over the summer was I wearing those shirts?
00:14:26.000 Find new voters.
00:14:27.000 Find new voters, right?
00:14:29.000 And I was like, it was like 119 degrees outside.
00:14:31.000 I was like, go find new voters!
00:14:33.000 And it worked.
00:14:34.000 You guys did the work.
00:14:36.000 We outworked the Democrats.
00:14:37.000 And I have a lot of thoughts here, guys, on low sleep.
00:14:40.000 Can someone tell me where Kamala Harris spent her $1 billion?
00:14:44.000 Seriously.
00:14:45.000 It's called consultants.
00:14:47.000 Evidently.
00:14:47.000 And just a ton of ads.
00:14:48.000 I think it was a cash grab for Democrats, the likes of which.
00:14:52.000 And this ground game.
00:14:53.000 Yeah, ground game.
00:14:55.000 I'm getting the most beautiful text messages.
00:14:57.000 I just want to say the gratitude people are showing me.
00:15:01.000 I feel weird when people say, Charlie, congratulations.
00:15:03.000 I'm like, man, I didn't get married.
00:15:05.000 The country is saved.
00:15:06.000 This is your victory as much as mine.
00:15:08.000 You know what I mean?
00:15:08.000 I'm like, we're not done yet.
00:15:11.000 We're not done yet.
00:15:12.000 That's the stream for later.
00:15:13.000 They don't even realize that it's even a victory for liberals in the end.
00:15:16.000 No, it's a better country.
00:15:18.000 By the way, avoiding World War III is objectively good for libs.
00:15:21.000 Yes.
00:15:21.000 Like, a secure border.
00:15:22.000 This is a victory for every human being on the planet.
00:15:25.000 This is good for Ukrainians right now that are getting mowed down.
00:15:28.000 Well, I mean, to the Joe Scarborough point, he made some great points.
00:15:32.000 You and I were watching it live.
00:15:33.000 I was watching it on my YouTube TV with Erica in bed.
00:15:36.000 I was like...
00:15:37.000 I had to watch it.
00:15:38.000 Still up at 4.
00:15:38.000 No, I had to watch it.
00:15:40.000 Of course I was.
00:15:41.000 I couldn't sleep until 5.
00:15:43.000 Okay, so there was a certain NBC reporter that said we didn't have a ground game, so I had to call a certain NBC reporter and debate that fact with him.
00:15:53.000 He's short.
00:15:54.000 And then I started watching Joe Scarborough, and I said, you know what?
00:15:58.000 To be honest, to his credit, Joe got this mostly right.
00:16:01.000 I thought he was going to be apoplectic, like a Nazi in the White House.
00:16:05.000 This is a first, whatever.
00:16:06.000 And he actually was like, hey, we have an issue with immigration.
00:16:10.000 We got to knock off this woke stuff.
00:16:11.000 I mean, it was really interesting to hear that take.
00:16:14.000 But here's the deal, Charlie.
00:16:16.000 When he comes to ground game, I'll still concede that the Democrats have more canvassers across the board, and they have unions, but they didn't have the union as much this time, which is a key insight.
00:16:26.000 But secondly, if they don't like what you're selling, you can knock on all the doors you want.
00:16:30.000 I'm thinking of those text messages from your friend that was knocking on public housing doors, and they're like, oh, we're voting for Trump.
00:16:36.000 Or even more telling, hearing 10-year-olds say, I think my parents like Trump.
00:16:42.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:16:43.000 Before I went to sleep, I looked up, I said...
00:16:47.000 My student polls are undefeated.
00:16:50.000 Remember, I told you guys those student polls.
00:16:52.000 So it's so funny.
00:16:53.000 We hosted Donald Trump in Vegas and we hosted him in...
00:16:56.000 No, okay, no, this is actually when the Tucker-Trump event.
00:16:58.000 So I'm holding court with the Trump team because they're exhausted, right?
00:17:01.000 So I actually had some energy.
00:17:02.000 It was Scavino.
00:17:03.000 It was Caporal, all these guys.
00:17:04.000 I was like, I'm going to leave you with one last piece of data.
00:17:06.000 And they're like, what, Charlie?
00:17:07.000 I was like...
00:17:09.000 Every four years in the state of Maine, eighth graders are polled on who they think should become president of the United States.
00:17:16.000 And they're rolling their eyes.
00:17:17.000 In 2016, Trump won narrowly.
00:17:20.000 In 2020, Trump got crushed.
00:17:22.000 In 2024, Trump won by 12 points.
00:17:25.000 And they were like, what is the significance?
00:17:27.000 I said, one eighth grader is mirroring what they're hearing at home.
00:17:30.000 It's a reflection of a culture.
00:17:32.000 It's way more accurate than a poll because these eighth graders are unfiltered.
00:17:35.000 It's two things.
00:17:36.000 It's mirroring what they hear at home from their parents and it's mirroring the 18 to 22-year-olds that they watch on YouTube.
00:17:43.000 Totally.
00:17:44.000 And I was like, I trust that more than any public poll.
00:17:50.000 And I said, see you guys later.
00:17:51.000 And I was like, Hope we win.
00:17:53.000 And honestly, of all the data that I thought, it was these student polls.
00:17:58.000 The California one was close.
00:17:59.000 The Minnesota one was close.
00:18:01.000 These 8th grade polls are actually way more accurate than anything Nate Silver put out.
00:18:06.000 It's more accurate than any of these multi-million...
00:18:09.000 Blake, I'm not wrong here.
00:18:11.000 Nate Silver being a fan.
00:18:12.000 Can we tweet this out?
00:18:14.000 The student polls have ended up being a greater predictor of who runs the country than our...
00:18:20.000 No, seriously.
00:18:23.000 Than our incredibly sophisticated polling class.
00:18:25.000 Oh, can we just say...
00:18:26.000 And bakery sales!
00:18:28.000 Has anybody done a wellness check on Ann Seltzer this morning?
00:18:32.000 She's gone completely silent, by the way.
00:18:34.000 Did she retire already?
00:18:35.000 By the way, to her great credit, her social security won't be taxed.
00:18:42.000 Let's just put her out to pasture now because what an all-time, god-awful, terrible, historically embarrassing dumpster fire of a poll.
00:18:54.000 Ann Seltzer, the gold standard, the Des Moines County Register.
00:18:59.000 That wasn't just a miss, man.
00:19:01.000 Donald Trump ended up, by the way, I think because of the poll, more people showed up in Iowa.
00:19:05.000 I think the poll electrified Iowa.
00:19:07.000 I know you don't.
00:19:11.000 Trump ended up winning Iowa by 13.2 points.
00:19:15.000 Okay?
00:19:16.000 That's a 16.2 point miss.
00:19:18.000 That is the worst polling miss.
00:19:21.000 She's like explaining to Mark Halperin, well, what does R&D mean?
00:19:25.000 And I had some very in-depth conversations.
00:19:27.000 I didn't actually see that.
00:19:29.000 Oh, no, no.
00:19:29.000 It's legit.
00:19:30.000 Was she actually being serious when she said that?
00:19:32.000 Hold on.
00:19:33.000 I need to throw this picture up.
00:19:35.000 I'm going to have a heart attack today.
00:19:37.000 I can't do this.
00:19:38.000 Kylie, throw this picture up.
00:19:39.000 This right here.
00:19:41.000 Remember, I just sent you the screen grab.
00:19:43.000 Trump's advisor on election turnout, voter turnout, is straight up panicking.
00:19:47.000 Trump's turnout mastermind panics.
00:19:49.000 We need more.
00:19:49.000 By the way, again, I know all of you this week, we will go methodically and tweet at every single one of you and humiliate you.
00:19:56.000 Because we actually had a ground game and we're going to have a great story to tell.
00:19:59.000 And it's not over.
00:20:00.000 To Tyler's point, Kerry Lake can become a U.S. Senator.
00:20:04.000 It's like, again, we'll get there.
00:20:06.000 And that would be a story to tell.
00:20:08.000 Again, no guarantees, but that is a real thing.
00:20:11.000 And to be clear, without turning point action and our advocacy in Wisconsin, I don't think we win Wisconsin.
00:20:17.000 I don't think Donald Trump would have gotten the call last night.
00:20:19.000 We have the numbers.
00:20:19.000 I have the numbers.
00:20:20.000 We have the numbers.
00:20:21.000 We have the data to prove it.
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00:21:22.000 Okay, do we have the morning Joe, Ryan?
00:21:30.000 Yeah, we do.
00:21:31.000 No, it's not the one I want.
00:21:32.000 I want the intro.
00:21:34.000 I want the one right out of the gate.
00:21:35.000 He handled it professionally.
00:21:36.000 It was like a weird AI morning Joe.
00:21:39.000 It's like he sucked it up and was like, this is a moment.
00:21:42.000 I'm going to do it.
00:21:43.000 It's all of a sudden he was like a decent gentleman.
00:21:45.000 And he wasn't good towards Trump.
00:21:46.000 He was good to the country.
00:21:48.000 So I have the long version.
00:21:49.000 Let's just go ahead and play that version, Kylie, and we'll tell you when to stop it.
00:21:52.000 No, no, no.
00:21:52.000 I don't want Al Sharpton.
00:21:53.000 No, no, no.
00:21:54.000 We have him and Al Sharpton going.
00:21:56.000 I don't want that.
00:21:57.000 I do think.
00:21:59.000 No.
00:22:00.000 Okay.
00:22:00.000 I want the intro right out of the gate.
00:22:02.000 As soon as Morning Joe panned to Morning Joe, Joe went right to the camera and explained it in a very succinct, bizarre way, actually.
00:22:11.000 Email us, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:22:13.000 By the way, AmFest right now, can we get a close shot, please, is the biggest conservative end of the year.
00:22:18.000 And oh my goodness, can we please get a close shot?
00:22:20.000 It is going to be unbelievable.
00:22:24.000 AmFest is...
00:22:25.000 Tyler, this is going to be crazy.
00:22:28.000 People are just going to lose it.
00:22:30.000 This will be Mardi Gras.
00:22:31.000 This is the largest conservative event in the year.
00:22:34.000 This will be the largest conservative event ever.
00:22:36.000 December 1920, 21-22, Phoenix, Arizona.
00:22:40.000 Guys, you've got to get it.
00:22:41.000 AmFest.com.
00:22:42.000 A-M-F-E-S-T.com.
00:22:44.000 That is AmFest.com.
00:22:45.000 I bet we're going to have some great speakers.
00:22:47.000 We're going to have 30,000 people there plus.
00:22:50.000 By the way, if you want to find your future wife, your future husband, I'm telling you right now, it's going to be unbelievable.
00:22:56.000 Phoenix Invention Center, get your tickets for $47.
00:23:00.000 You're not going to beat that.
00:23:02.000 There's going to be hundreds of dollars later on.
00:23:03.000 By the way, price is going to go up soon.
00:23:05.000 Amfest.com, amfest.com.
00:23:07.000 Get your ticket right now.
00:23:08.000 Tucker Carlson will be there.
00:23:10.000 Obviously, I'll be there.
00:23:11.000 I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if J.D. Vance will be there, our VP, and maybe President Trump.
00:23:18.000 We don't know.
00:23:19.000 That's not confirmed.
00:23:20.000 But it's going to be the who's who, right?
00:23:23.000 It's going to be pretty amazing.
00:23:25.000 So go to amfest.com, amfest.com.
00:23:27.000 It'll literally be the biggest thing we've ever done.
00:23:29.000 We're going to take over that entire convention center.
00:23:31.000 I'm telling you, I don't know if we can fit much more than $30,000.
00:23:34.000 I think we're going to sell out.
00:23:35.000 Oh, we're going to sell out.
00:23:37.000 This is going to be the biggest thing ever done.
00:23:38.000 This will be, and by the way, celebration well deserved.
00:23:42.000 You know we've never done an AmFest where we're celebrating?
00:23:45.000 You know we've never done an event post-2016 where we're actually celebrating?
00:23:50.000 Oh, I know.
00:23:51.000 It's usually like looking forward or recalibration or reloading.
00:23:55.000 Never.
00:23:56.000 This is one where I'm like, honestly, I have no call to action.
00:23:59.000 Enjoy.
00:24:00.000 That's literally what it's going to be.
00:24:02.000 The CTA will be, have fun, folks.
00:24:04.000 Don't get arrested.
00:24:06.000 Stay alive.
00:24:07.000 Literally.
00:24:08.000 That will be my call to action.
00:24:09.000 It's like, let some steam off, right?
00:24:11.000 It'll be unbelievable, actually.
00:24:14.000 Amfest.com.
00:24:15.000 It's at the Phoenix Convention Center.
00:24:17.000 Breakout sessions.
00:24:18.000 In-depth seminars.
00:24:19.000 It's going to be epic.
00:24:20.000 I can't wait.
00:24:21.000 I mean, guys, this is going to be the greatest thing ever, right?
00:24:25.000 Amfest.com.
00:24:26.000 Get your tickets right now.
00:24:29.000 We haven't promoted it all.
00:24:30.000 You know why I told the team?
00:24:31.000 I said, we're election-focused.
00:24:33.000 You're going to love this.
00:24:34.000 Look at this.
00:24:35.000 A reporter out of Alabama.
00:24:36.000 I personally worked the polls yesterday, and I have to say I was so shocked by the amount of students from Auburn University driving home to vote yesterday.
00:24:43.000 It was absolutely incredible to witness that and the number of first-time voters.
00:24:47.000 Please say a big thank you to Charlie and the team.
00:24:49.000 What an incredible win.
00:24:50.000 Very sweet.
00:24:51.000 Let's play cut 240.
00:24:52.000 This is not the clip that we want, but it's still a good one.
00:24:54.000 Play cut 240, please.
00:24:56.000 Let's dig a little deeper.
00:24:59.000 Because you have that...
00:25:01.000 Stacked on top of what happened on college campuses this fall?
00:25:06.000 Stacked on top of what's been happening on college campuses over the past four or five years?
00:25:12.000 I have said this on the air, and every time I've said it, people say, oh, you're just saying that because you're a white conservative.
00:25:19.000 No, I'm just saying it because every Democrat that we have ever sat down with dinner with over the past five years who have kids that go to colleges...
00:25:28.000 Say their kids are afraid to speak in class because they'll be cancelled.
00:25:32.000 Let me say that again.
00:25:34.000 And they're all Democrats.
00:25:36.000 Everybody that we've had dinner with, if they have a kid in college, you go, how are the Red Sox going?
00:25:41.000 Yeah, thanks, yeah, yeah.
00:25:42.000 And they're eating.
00:25:43.000 Beautiful day today, wasn't it?
00:25:46.000 Yeah.
00:25:46.000 You know, my daughter at University of Virginia, she's afraid to raise her hand in class because if she says something that's politically incorrect, she'll immediately be canceled.
00:25:56.000 She'll be shunned from class.
00:25:57.000 She'll be destroyed in social media by noon.
00:25:59.000 So they just sit in class quiet.
00:26:02.000 You know what, Joe?
00:26:03.000 You might have a redemption arc in you, man.
00:26:06.000 Whoa.
00:26:06.000 Look, Payne is a teacher.
00:26:08.000 Okay?
00:26:09.000 And Joe is deciding...
00:26:11.000 You know, you gotta wonder, is the Trump thing blinded?
00:26:15.000 Deep down, does Joe actually hate the woke stuff?
00:26:18.000 Morning Joe.
00:26:18.000 You know what I mean?
00:26:19.000 Because that right there, that's verboten on MSNBC. You don't say those things unless you've been thinking them for a long time and keeping them in.
00:26:27.000 I mean, listen, on the one hand, I have a ton of respect for what he did, but I'm also, I hate that they all knew this.
00:26:35.000 Mark Halperin joining us next.
00:26:37.000 I can't wait for this discussion.
00:26:39.000 Great man.
00:26:40.000 Email us at freedom at charliekirk.com.
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00:27:47.000 Okay, everybody.
00:27:48.000 What a day.
00:27:49.000 We are on No Sleep, and I'm sure our guest is as well.
00:27:52.000 To his great credit, from Two Way TV, right?
00:27:55.000 TwoWayTV.app.
00:27:57.000 Is that right?
00:27:58.000 I can't...
00:27:58.000 Yep.
00:27:59.000 Two Way TV. It's on YouTube.
00:28:01.000 It's everywhere.
00:28:01.000 To his credit, he has been the best reporter of this cycle.
00:28:04.000 He saw things before they were coming, and he actually had the courage to report it to Mark Halperin.
00:28:08.000 Mark...
00:28:09.000 Welcome to the program.
00:28:11.000 We are celebrating here, as you might imagine.
00:28:14.000 And give your analysis, the historic ramifications here.
00:28:18.000 And you to your great credit came on our program yesterday.
00:28:22.000 You said, Charlie, it's either going to break to Trump or break to Kamala.
00:28:25.000 I don't think it's going to be close.
00:28:27.000 Mark, welcome back.
00:28:29.000 Thank you, sir.
00:28:29.000 Thank you for your kind words.
00:28:31.000 My analysis is your one person, good cop, bad cop, won the election for Donald Trump.
00:28:36.000 Guys, you're not turning out.
00:28:37.000 Guys, you're not turning out.
00:28:39.000 Guys, you're turning out.
00:28:42.000 Mark, you're too smart, man.
00:28:45.000 You're too smart for your own good.
00:28:46.000 Wait, you mean that I actually knew what I was doing, Mark?
00:28:49.000 You were not engaged in what I call the pluff bluff.
00:28:55.000 You were figuring out you got to get people energized and you got to get them on the bandwagon.
00:28:59.000 And most campaigns have two different people do it.
00:29:02.000 But Charlie Kirk wears two hats.
00:29:05.000 Nicely done.
00:29:06.000 Like eight hats, but yeah.
00:29:07.000 Yeah, but two hats in this case.
00:29:09.000 No, look, I know what it's like in a different realm to have people out there saying...
00:29:15.000 These people don't know what they're doing.
00:29:17.000 You and a guy named Elon were engaged in something that people said these are amateurs playing a pro game, and you guys delivered.
00:29:27.000 So congratulations to you.
00:29:28.000 It's quite something to play at the highest level of one of the most competitive You guys are justifiably proud of that.
00:29:38.000 And as I said, I know I'm using a jokey tone, but what you did yesterday to use your megaphone was really smart because getting young men to do anything but The thing they like to do the most, which I won't say, is hard to do.
00:29:53.000 It's hard to do.
00:29:54.000 I meant play video games, by the way.
00:29:56.000 It's hard to do.
00:29:57.000 It's the most fun.
00:29:58.000 This is Charlie's line.
00:29:58.000 It's the most fun you can have with your clothes on, I will tell you.
00:30:01.000 Winning a presidential election.
00:30:02.000 That's very kind, Mark.
00:30:03.000 And yes, now that we can get the inside baseball, is that we knew what we were doing the whole time.
00:30:09.000 The media, by the way, they carried the water for us.
00:30:11.000 I said, how do I get them to write a bunch of articles that women are outvoting men, even though we're not that worried about it, but we want to spike male turnout and then trigger a right-wing influencer chatter to then be able to get an extra one or two points where we need it.
00:30:25.000 I said, I know.
00:30:26.000 I'm going to send a panic tweet because they're looking for copium on the other side.
00:30:30.000 And we mapped this whole thing out.
00:30:32.000 And next thing you know, as you know, they took the entire narrative.
00:30:35.000 It was one of the number one news stories.
00:30:38.000 So many reporters asking me.
00:30:40.000 I remember we talked it out, and I was like, okay, women are ahead, but this is early vote.
00:30:44.000 This will balance out.
00:30:45.000 Yes, but I said, we don't want balance.
00:30:47.000 We want that one to two extra spike, and it worked.
00:30:50.000 Then all of a sudden, every right-wing influencer was talking about that.
00:30:54.000 So let me ask you about that, Mark, and thank you for the kind words.
00:30:56.000 It's very appreciated.
00:30:57.000 Just to be clear, I was born at night, but it wasn't last night, and I decoded your secret plan all the way here in Manhattan.
00:31:03.000 Well, yes, but for whatever reason, the other side seemed to do my work for me.
00:31:11.000 Because what they did is like, Charlie Kirk is worried.
00:31:13.000 I said, yes, this is exactly right.
00:31:16.000 All right, so Mark, but we were expecting at least a surge in young female and female vote.
00:31:24.000 That was something that we were worried about.
00:31:26.000 Did that manifest or materialize anywhere?
00:31:29.000 Yes.
00:31:30.000 Well, there's no way to know, because people rely on the exit poll, and I know from having used to work on the exit poll, and it's only gotten cheaper since then.
00:31:36.000 You can't really say.
00:31:38.000 But the proof's in the pudding, right?
00:31:39.000 Donald Trump won the popular vote overwhelmingly.
00:31:42.000 And on a qualitative side, on my platform, on Two Way, in the last couple days, we've had young women...
00:31:49.000 Who are pro-choice, who voted for Donald Trump, and their explanations of why they didn't vote for the pro-choice candidate helps explain, to the extent there was an under-voting of young women, helps explain it.
00:32:03.000 You can have been pro-choice and not voted for Kamala Harris or not voted at all because it was not The energizing issue that the left and the press have said it was for a long time.
00:32:14.000 There was evidence to think that it would be.
00:32:17.000 But again, every day folks come on our platform and explain why it wasn't for them.
00:32:22.000 So I'm sure there's a lot of finger pointing going around right now.
00:32:26.000 Is there any evidence, any evidence at all that Biden was, let's say, not as helpful as he could have been?
00:32:39.000 I don't think on purpose.
00:32:40.000 I think he's limited in what he can do.
00:32:42.000 It's why he wasn't any longer on the ticket.
00:32:44.000 I think that there's one big story for each of the parties.
00:32:51.000 For the Republican Party, it's that Donald Trump's realignment has reflected in not just his victory, but the nature of his victory.
00:33:00.000 Again, I don't like to overalign the exit poll, but to say it's roughly directionally correct.
00:33:04.000 Donald Trump got less of the white vote But now has created a party of the working class, white, black, Hispanic, young, independent.
00:33:15.000 That's an incredible story.
00:33:16.000 And it's not clear that any other Republican could have done that or can take the mantle from him when he's done.
00:33:21.000 But in the short term, Donald Trump has done something nobody thought was possible and put a lie to the notion.
00:33:27.000 That his appeal is to the, quote, extreme MAGA base.
00:33:30.000 When you win the popular vote, you're not just appealing to the, quote, unquote, extreme MAGA base.
00:33:35.000 That's an incredible story.
00:33:36.000 On the Democratic side, it's their blindness.
00:33:39.000 It's the mirror image of that.
00:33:40.000 It's their blindness to Donald Trump's appeal.
00:33:42.000 Oh, he can't win the popular vote.
00:33:45.000 He's got a ceiling too low to win the battleground states.
00:33:49.000 He's a racist.
00:33:50.000 He's a fascist.
00:33:51.000 He talks about issues that simply appeal to the extreme MAGA base.
00:33:55.000 And I'm answering this in response to your question about the finger pointing.
00:33:59.000 I wrote a piece the other day for foxnews.com about this.
00:34:02.000 Their first impulse is going to be, say, it's all Joe Biden's fault.
00:34:05.000 He shouldn't have run at all.
00:34:06.000 He should have gotten out sooner.
00:34:07.000 He should have allowed time for there being competitive primary.
00:34:09.000 Or it's all Kamala Harris's fault.
00:34:11.000 She gave bad answers on The View.
00:34:15.000 Those are part of the story.
00:34:17.000 But the fundamental thing is the party has moved so far to the left on issues and is not able to appeal to the groups that Donald Trump did very well with for a Republican.
00:34:29.000 And so I have no doubt that you're going to hear more stories both about what's happened in the past and what happens going forward between, if not Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, at least between their camps.
00:34:39.000 But to me, the more the Democratic Party focuses on that, the less likely they are to figure out how to solve this.
00:34:44.000 Because what happened to them yesterday was a repudiation, not so much of Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, although it was that too, but of the party's complete failure to understand that Donald Trump was eating their lunch in the center of the electorate.
00:34:58.000 And so, Mark, let me now just take a little detour here.
00:35:02.000 One thing that was a good, I guess, unintentional op on their side was the Seltzer poll.
00:35:07.000 We were feeling great until someone that I've been watching for a while came out with this poll and said, Kamala up three in Iowa.
00:35:14.000 You asked great questions on two-way and you gave her a fair chance to go through it and all the cross tabs.
00:35:21.000 Just help me just clear the air.
00:35:23.000 What the heck is all that, Mark?
00:35:24.000 I mean, how do you have a 16-point polling miss?
00:35:29.000 Yeah.
00:35:30.000 So look, Ann is my friend and she was my pollster when I was at Bloomberg.
00:35:35.000 And what I want to do is avoid people saying it was a conspiracy.
00:35:40.000 She was trying to hurt Trump.
00:35:41.000 No, I'm not saying that.
00:35:41.000 I'm not saying that.
00:35:42.000 Well, I know you didn't.
00:35:44.000 I know you didn't.
00:35:44.000 But when people bring this up, I wanted to make it clear it's not that.
00:35:48.000 The best pollsters, no matter what methodology they use, one in 20 polls is going to be off.
00:35:53.000 Okay?
00:35:54.000 It's just the nature of how polling works.
00:35:57.000 And...
00:35:58.000 So figuring out who the electorate was going to be was very difficult this cycle because of COVID, because of Harris replacing Biden, etc.
00:36:07.000 Trump always makes it difficult.
00:36:09.000 So I think the fault is not in Ann, who had a faulty poll, and she's done an interview with The Register that published the poll in Des Moines, and people can listen to her explanation about it.
00:36:22.000 The fault is not with Ann.
00:36:24.000 The fault is with a consumer of polling, a culture of consuming polling, treating them there like predictions in the Rosetta Stone.
00:36:34.000 They're not.
00:36:35.000 And one poll that's an outlier, people should look at as either an outlier or on the cutting edge.
00:36:42.000 Ann has done polls in the past that were outliers that turned out to be on the cutting edge and showed where the thing had been heading and where it would be on Election Day.
00:36:51.000 Ann had a bad poll.
00:36:52.000 She's had some bad polls in the past, but she's mostly had a record of accuracy that exceeds almost any other pollster in the country.
00:36:59.000 That is correct.
00:37:00.000 So if there's a bad poll, if Michael Jordan scores six points in a game, we don't say, well, who says Michael Jordan is a good basketball player?
00:37:10.000 He only scored six points.
00:37:12.000 We also don't say, well, now I know in the next game, Michael Jordan's not going to score more than six points.
00:37:16.000 It's one poll.
00:37:18.000 Polls can be off for a variety of reasons, even with the best pollsters, with the best intentions.
00:37:22.000 The problem, I'll say again, was not Ann's poll, even though it was off.
00:37:26.000 The problem was the left saying, oh, this means Harris is going to win Wisconsin.
00:37:31.000 Or the right saying, how outrageous that she's got a poll that's an outlier.
00:37:35.000 That's what polls are like.
00:37:36.000 A sophisticated appraisal of an outlier poll And you hear that in my conversation with Ann, with whom I respect is.
00:37:42.000 Maybe it's telling us where it's headed.
00:37:44.000 Maybe it's an outlier.
00:37:46.000 And that's it.
00:37:47.000 And not treat it like some sabotage event or some inexplicable failure.
00:37:52.000 Polls can be wrong with the best pollsters, with the best intentions.
00:37:56.000 So Mark, help me understand, because you talked to Sorsa on both sides, what's the future of the Democrat Party short and long term here?
00:38:02.000 I mean, I'm sure that tonight's Kamala's speech will tell us a lot, but tell me, help me understand that.
00:38:09.000 I actually don't think her speech will say much because I don't think people are going to look to her for leadership.
00:38:15.000 Their problem is that, as I said, the only way to begin to solve a problem is to agree on what the problem is and then to work together and say, what are the best solutions to this problem?
00:38:26.000 Bernie will say and AOC will say the party wasn't left enough and populist enough on economics.
00:38:32.000 And others will say, we're crazy left-wing on all this trans stuff and parents in schools and Israel.
00:38:41.000 We've got to move to the center on that stuff.
00:38:43.000 Or we need more relatable candidates, whatever it is.
00:38:49.000 There's no agreement.
00:38:50.000 And when you see a party suffer the crisis that they suffered last night, and don't minimize it, not just Trump winning the Electoral College big, winning the popular vote big, but his encroachment on what have been traditionally Democratic constituencies.
00:39:02.000 You need a once-in-a-generation leader to step forward and do that.
00:39:06.000 And people say, well, you know, you never know when one's going to come up.
00:39:09.000 Bill Clinton and Barack Obama were tagged as once-in-a-generation leaders from the time they were in college, okay?
00:39:17.000 There's no one like that now.
00:39:18.000 And I think with all due respect to the people who were talked about as potential 2024 candidates or 28 candidates, I don't think any of them are once in a generational leaders.
00:39:27.000 I just don't.
00:39:29.000 And as I said, you know that.
00:39:30.000 It's not something you get when you're 40s or 50s.
00:39:33.000 You're tagged for it early.
00:39:34.000 So their future is partly a crisis of issues and the fact that the party is controlled by the extreme left.
00:39:41.000 It's also a crisis of leadership because I don't see a once-in-a-generational leader.
00:39:44.000 And it's also a crisis of a disagreement about what is the problem and therefore what is the solution.
00:39:49.000 That doesn't mean they're consigned to 50 years of doom.
00:39:52.000 It just means standing here today You can't identify, here's the consensus of the problem, here are the leaders who are going to execute a solution that we agree on.
00:40:01.000 None of that's in place, and that means they've got a problem, and they're running against the person who I continue to say is the second best presidential candidate or presidential political operator of our times after Bill Clinton.
00:40:14.000 Mark, thank you so much.
00:40:15.000 Can you please plug Two Way one more time, just for our audience to make sure they're aware of it?
00:40:19.000 Sure.
00:40:20.000 You're very nice.
00:40:20.000 You can see it on YouTube, Two Way TV. You can see it on my X account.
00:40:27.000 You can see it on our website, which is twoway.tv.
00:40:31.000 And there are programs that are free.
00:40:33.000 You come on.
00:40:34.000 You're part of a community that's bipartisan.
00:40:36.000 People who are very conservative, people who are very liberal, and interact with people who are journalists and scholars and activists and politicians.
00:40:44.000 Byron Donald's on tonight.
00:40:45.000 And it's a way to build community around long, sophisticated conversations about issues that are important to the country.
00:40:51.000 Thank you, Mark.
00:40:52.000 Talk to you soon.
00:40:53.000 Thank you.
00:40:54.000 Thank you.
00:40:54.000 You're nice to invite me back.
00:40:55.000 And congratulations again.
00:40:56.000 Really impressive achievement for a bunch of amateur hacks.
00:40:59.000 Thank you.
00:40:59.000 As Politico said the day of the election, they let the inmates run the asylum.
00:41:05.000 Direct quote from Politico.
00:41:06.000 But the punk inmates, not even like mature.
00:41:09.000 No, that's right.
00:41:10.000 I know.
00:41:10.000 I don't even wear a tie.
00:41:13.000 Thank you, Mark.
00:41:13.000 The brand new inmates.
00:41:14.000 All right.
00:41:14.000 Thank you, guys.
00:41:15.000 So much news happening.
00:41:17.000 Do we have the Morning Joe that I can play once Rav gets back, guys?
00:41:20.000 Do we have that intro for Morning Joe?
00:41:21.000 I think we do.
00:41:25.000 Charlie.
00:41:26.000 While we're pulling that up.
00:41:28.000 Once we get back, I will play it.
00:41:30.000 While we're pulling that up, the transition that was just there was about all this constant conversation.
00:41:36.000 And I want people to understand the amount of buckling that normally people do under the pressure of the Beltway losers and the hacks that are there that are so threatened by actual work.
00:41:50.000 Totally.
00:41:51.000 Is something that we're gonna have to get into depth and explain.
00:41:53.000 Oh, we have a real story to tell.
00:41:55.000 Which is, they put so much pressure on us, not to make sure that we succeeded, but to try to get us out and out of the way, because they knew that deep down, I think, that we had the capability of making sure that we could deliver some things here and prove some things.
00:42:13.000 And now it's out for everybody to see.
00:42:16.000 And that's really an important thing for the entire Republican movement, the entire Republican apparatus, to open their eyes open to, is that we have an opportunity in front of us to win a lot of stuff moving forward.
00:42:31.000 But it requires real diligence, real perseverance, real construction, real mechanics.
00:42:38.000 And yeah, it's offensive that people even...
00:42:43.000 Second guess some of it without introspection.
00:42:45.000 There's going to be a lot of record setting going on.
00:42:50.000 I'm going to go through the clock.
00:42:52.000 These people were nasty.
00:42:54.000 These people were...
00:42:55.000 While we were working and Tyler was taking red-eye flights to Wisconsin, these people...
00:42:59.000 I'm not going to say the names because we're streaming on other platforms.
00:43:01.000 There's adjectives that I would use.
00:43:03.000 They were leaking stories with us that we constantly had to feed.
00:43:06.000 That nasty crap.
00:43:08.000 You see it in Politico.
00:43:09.000 Everyone's pointing fingers.
00:43:11.000 They're really sweating.
00:43:12.000 They trusted Charlie Kirk with all of this stuff.
00:43:15.000 They're not doing anything.
00:43:16.000 What the media tried to do is they said if Trump loses, we're going to blame Charlie Kirk.
00:43:22.000 That's literally what the narrative was.
00:43:24.000 And the table was set for that.
00:43:26.000 And I was like, let's do the work, guys.
00:43:27.000 If we win Arizona-Wisconsin, that's our firewall.
00:43:30.000 Imagine if they worked as hard as Charlie, we could have flipped another state.
00:43:35.000 There's Minnesota.
00:43:37.000 They're too busy cashing consultant checks.
00:43:38.000 The consultant class needs to be purged, and it is worse than you could imagine.
00:43:43.000 Again, we dealt with, no joke, 20 time-consuming, potentially jeopardizing to our status as an organization media articles that if we don't spend time with the reporters, it can impact donors, it can impact Oh, hey, Tyler Montag.
00:44:02.000 You said we're not winners.
00:44:05.000 Wait, we got a U.S. Senate race.
00:44:07.000 We got a U.S. Senate race.
00:44:09.000 Wait.
00:44:09.000 We're almost there.
00:44:10.000 I want a close-up on my face.
00:44:12.000 Let me finish.
00:44:12.000 Let me cook.
00:44:14.000 There's a whole arc to this, guys.
00:44:15.000 I got it all in my head.
00:44:18.000 We're not doing names yet.
00:44:19.000 Let us cook.
00:44:20.000 We go broad, then we go specific.
00:44:22.000 Let him cook!
00:44:24.000 Anyway, just to reiterate though, these people spent hours backgrounding reporters on fake BS that we then had to deal with to try to destabilize us and to go after us.
00:44:36.000 And we just kept working.
00:44:37.000 And Andrew, to his credit, this guy spent so much time away from his family because of these people.
00:44:42.000 And you have to go on the reporters like, no, that's not true.
00:44:44.000 Let me walk you through it.
00:44:45.000 Okay.
00:44:47.000 Thank you for that.
00:44:48.000 No, it's true.
00:44:48.000 It's great.
00:44:49.000 And by the way, but you should also have a little bit of bitterness towards these people.
00:44:53.000 Oh, I've been texting them all.
00:44:54.000 No, because they took valuable time away from us.
00:44:57.000 Because again, you can't ignore the press when they're like, well, five people say what you're doing is illegal.
00:45:00.000 Okay, you got to drop what you're doing and you have to clarify it or else it could result in criminal investigation.
00:45:05.000 You know what else was really sick about it is there's a lot of incumbents in, and I'm not going to be specific, so don't worry.
00:45:11.000 Not yet.
00:45:11.000 No, it will come.
00:45:12.000 There's a lot of incumbents that were, to Tyler's point, really, really threatened.
00:45:18.000 They wanted to see Turning Point's efforts fail, because guess what?
00:45:22.000 They think of it as a money game, and they think that you're moving in on their turf.
00:45:27.000 And by the way, we succeeded...
00:45:32.000 And I want the audience to understand this.
00:45:34.000 We can see in the data that without our efforts in Wisconsin, Trump does not win Wisconsin.
00:45:39.000 We can see in the data that without our efforts in Arizona, Trump does not win Arizona.
00:45:45.000 And by the way, there might be an argument to be made in Michigan when all is said and done.
00:45:49.000 We're in Michigan 7.
00:45:50.000 We're chasing ballots in Michigan 7.
00:45:51.000 Do we win that congressional seat?
00:45:52.000 That's huge.
00:45:54.000 Everyone laughed at us.
00:45:56.000 So there's a congressional seat in Michigan that we can point to.
00:46:00.000 And by the way, we don't know what's going to happen with Sam Brown in Nevada.
00:46:04.000 We have a lot of cases in Nevada, and Trump won Nevada.
00:46:08.000 Our team in CD3 is still working.
00:46:11.000 And we're curing ballots.
00:46:12.000 And I just got off the phone with other groups that are working in Nevada that are running point on curing.
00:46:19.000 And we're curing there.
00:46:21.000 We're curing here.
00:46:22.000 Yeah.
00:46:23.000 All right.
00:46:24.000 I want to play Joe Scarborough while we have Real America's Voice here.
00:46:27.000 Let's play cut.
00:46:29.000 I think this is what we asked for 242.
00:46:31.000 We'll see.
00:46:33.000 Latino men came out in force for Donald Trump.
00:46:36.000 Boy, what a huge difference that made.
00:46:38.000 And you know, that was really just part of the stunning outcome.
00:46:42.000 I mean, America, first of all, is far more to the right than any time in our lifetime.
00:46:47.000 Even going back to the Reagan years.
00:46:49.000 And Donald Trump won in dominating fashion.
00:46:52.000 It's a right-wing revolution.
00:46:54.000 Did that along with other Republican candidates in the Senate races and the House races.
00:46:59.000 They're likely to dominate all branches of government for the next several years.
00:47:03.000 Donald Trump not only broke out through that sort of hard ceiling of 47, 48 percent.
00:47:10.000 Think about this.
00:47:12.000 He became only the second Republican to win a majority of the popular vote since 1988.
00:47:20.000 In 36 years.
00:47:24.000 Yeah, by the way, the popular vote is worth a whole hour.
00:47:26.000 Let me actually play the intro to that clip.
00:47:28.000 I screwed it up.
00:47:29.000 Play cut 241.
00:47:31.000 Joe, we'll start with your take.
00:47:34.000 Well, I mean, so much to go through.
00:47:36.000 So many questions.
00:47:37.000 I came onto the set and Willie said, hey, by the way, because we were talking about the historic nature of this week.
00:47:45.000 And Willie said, do you know, he only lost Illinois.
00:47:51.000 By four points.
00:47:52.000 New Jersey by five.
00:47:55.000 I mean, you talk about a...
00:47:56.000 We had talked about a red wave two years ago that never materialized.
00:48:02.000 I've got to say, this is the biggest red wave I've seen since...
00:48:07.000 Ronald Reagan's 49th state victory in 1984.
00:48:12.000 It seems every Republican across the country improved.
00:48:17.000 Guys, this is the equivalent.
00:48:19.000 You're never going to get a Reagan-Mondale.
00:48:21.000 This is as close as it gets in the modern era.
00:48:23.000 The country's too divided now.
00:48:25.000 You get within knocking distance in New Jersey.
00:48:28.000 Orange County voted for Trump, by the way.
00:48:29.000 Jungle primaries.
00:48:30.000 So far, you know, they're going to take another three weeks or so to...
00:48:33.000 But, guys, I just...
00:48:34.000 It's just...
00:48:35.000 I want to just take a step back here and reiterate what Joe is saying, and he's right.
00:48:41.000 My whole political career, I've heard folklore of the Reagan election.
00:48:48.000 84, yeah.
00:48:50.000 You just lived through it.
00:48:52.000 You just lived through the entire country sweeping red.
00:48:55.000 And again, when people would say that, I would cringe.
00:48:57.000 I'd be like, oh, don't say that, landslide.
00:49:00.000 It's true.
00:49:01.000 It happened.
00:49:02.000 It's real.
00:49:04.000 Every single place in the country, except for a couple micro-counties, we've got to get that red map.
00:49:09.000 It's almost done.
00:49:09.000 When California and Arizona comes in, I'm going to frame that, by the way.
00:49:12.000 We should frame that.
00:49:13.000 We should paint it on a wall.
00:49:15.000 It's right-wing revolution, right?
00:49:18.000 We should.
00:49:18.000 We should do wallpaper of it.
00:49:21.000 That's awesome.
00:49:22.000 At AmFest, we have to have it.
00:49:24.000 We'll wallpaper.
00:49:25.000 Everywhere at AmFest has to be that bad.
00:49:27.000 We'll wallpaper the hallway with that.
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