Trump is sworn in as the 45th President of the United States, and it's an amazing day in American history! First, we have a live reaction from President Trump's press conference at Mar-A-Largo where he announces his plans for the Inauguration. Then we are joined by Cain from Citizen Free Press to get his live reaction, and then Raheem Kassam helps make sense of the meta news from the day.
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00:00:17.000Not only was Charlie in Greenland meeting the MAGA faithful in Greenland that love Trump, love America, but Trump then simultaneously held a historic We're opting to include the entire press conference in this podcast because I truly believe it's historic.
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00:03:07.000All right, everybody, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:03:09.000Andrew Colvin in for Charlie, who surprised me this morning by letting me know he's in Greenland with Don Jr. and other representatives from the Trump administration, incoming Trump administration.
00:03:22.000But President Trump is speaking right now at a press conference at Mar-a-Lago, so more on Greenland later, more on Facebook later.
00:03:29.000Let's go ahead and throw back to President Trump.
00:03:58.000And I'm thrilled to announce today that DMAQ... We'll be investing at least $20 billion over a very short period of time into the United States, and they may go double or even somewhat more than double that amount of money.
00:04:14.000It's a great thing, and I believe he will say that he's doing it because of the fact that he was very inspired by the election.
00:04:24.000They wouldn't do it without that election, I can tell you.
00:05:33.000It's been amazing news for me and my family when he was elected in November.
00:05:41.000We've been waiting four years to increase our investments in U.S. to a very large amount of money.
00:05:48.000We are a company operating in more than 20 countries around the world.
00:05:52.000We have delivered more than 45,000 luxury units and another 45,000 in the pipeline.
00:05:59.000In data center, we are in 10 countries around the world, in Asia, Europe, and Middle East.
00:06:05.000And we're very, very excited now with his leadership and his open strategy and policy to encourage businesses to come to U.S. For the last four years, we've been waiting for this moment.
00:06:17.000And we're planning to invest $20 billion.
00:06:20.000And even more than that, if the opportunity in the market allow us.
00:06:24.000But at the moment, we're planning $20 billion in data center, catering for the AI, and cloud business for the hyperscalers.
00:06:45.000So, Hussein, we're going to work with you and make sure everything goes smoothly.
00:06:49.000we have powers that haven't really been used in terms of environmental.
00:06:53.000If you invest over a billion dollars in the United States, we're going to give expedited reviews to everybody because everyone's afraid they're going to come in and get caught in the quagmire, which is very prevalent in the United States, unfortunately.
00:07:08.000The quagmire of environmental and various other regulations and rules.
00:07:12.000And I made it a point of telling people if you invest a billion dollars or more And we'll do this for people with far less, too.
00:07:47.000I've been a victim of that myself over the years.
00:07:50.000And I think I know all the games and all the tricks that are played.
00:07:53.000And much of it is just done to stop progress.
00:07:57.000So we're going to be helping you and everybody else that comes to the United States and wants to invest their money that you don't get tied up for the rest of your life and you can't do anything.
00:08:06.000This commitment further underscores that many of the greatest business leaders on Earth are seeing a very bright economic future for America.
00:08:15.000Since the election, as you know, a lot of positive things have happened.
00:08:22.000We are inheriting a difficult situation from the outgoing administration, and they're trying everything they can to make it more difficult.
00:08:33.000Inflation is continuing to rage, and interest rates are far too high.
00:08:38.000And I've been disappointed to see the Biden administration's attempt To block the reforms of the American people and that they voted for.
00:09:35.000We're going to be drilling in a lot of other locations.
00:09:38.000And the energy costs are going to come way down.
00:09:40.000they'll be brought down to a very low level, and that's going to bring everything else down.
00:09:45.000That's what caused it to go up, along with the ridiculous spending on the Green News scam, all this money, trillions of dollars.
00:09:53.000It's like throwing it right out the window, what they're doing.
00:09:55.000And they're trying to spend so much now, they're just taking money and giving it to anybody that wants it for any project at all, if it's certified under the Green News scam.
00:12:28.000But we would have been out of Afghanistan with dignity and strength as opposed to looking like a bunch of fools with 13 dead and many, many badly, horrifically injured.
00:13:05.000I think it's one of the reasons it was so badly handled, that withdrawal, where people are jumping onto airplanes, falling off the sides of airplanes when they're 3,000 feet in the air.
00:13:15.000And nobody's ever seen anything like that.
00:20:10.000They also want to go back, and they have already started that, to when you buy a faucet, no water comes out, because they want to preserve.
00:20:17.000Even in areas that have so much water, you don't know what to do.
00:21:58.000And he sort of said yes, but let's say it's 100, but it might be 200. Right, Brian?
00:22:03.000Dollars United States creating more than 100,000 jobs.
00:22:08.000Hussein just announced a tremendous investment that he's going to make, and that's money that's in the bank.
00:22:14.000He's going to come and do it, and he'll do a great job, and he'll build the best centers in the country, I guarantee, because I know the way he bills.
00:22:20.000Since my election, the stock market has set records.
00:22:23.000The S&P 500 index has broken above 6,000 points for the first time ever, never even close.
00:22:30.000In a single month, small business optimism soared 41 points.
00:25:12.000But they want $3 billion to fix the Panama Canal that's run by China and makes a lot of money, China.
00:25:18.000One of the most profitable structures ever built, because you have ships lined up back to Florida, frankly, and they just keep going through, and the numbers are staggering, half a million to a million dollars a ship.
00:25:53.000Working with the Republican majorities in Congress will cut taxes, slash regulations, raise wages, and boost incomes at a pace the world has not seen before.
00:26:29.000We'll impose new tariffs so that the products on our stores will once again be stamped with those beautiful words made in the USA. And we are not treated well, as you know, by Canada.
00:26:43.000Canada is subsidized to the tune of about $200 billion a year, plus other things.
00:26:51.000They don't essentially have a military.
00:27:39.000And we're going to be announcing at a future date pretty soon we're going to change because we do most of the work there and it's ours.
00:27:49.000We're going to be changing sort of the opposite of Biden where he's...
00:27:53.000Closing everything up, essentially getting rid of $50 to $60 trillion worth of assets.
00:27:58.000We're going to be changing the name of the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America, which has a beautiful ring that covers a lot of territory.
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00:29:28.000And we're going to put very serious tariffs on Mexico and Canada, because Canada, they come through Canada too, and the drugs that are coming through are at record numbers, record numbers.
00:29:40.000So we're going to make up for that by putting tariffs on Mexico and Canada.
00:31:19.000You see what's happening up in the Massachusetts area with the whales, where they had two whales wash ashore at, I think, a 17-year period.
00:31:46.000It's amazing the way a true environmentalist would say, oh, we love wind.
00:31:50.000It sounds good, but that's about where it ends.
00:31:52.000You know, after 10 years, you have to redo them.
00:31:54.000And what happens is they don't do that.
00:31:57.000They let them stand and they rust and they say, because of the environment, I'm not a believer in this, but they say you can because it's a certain fiberglass.
00:32:05.000That the blades cannot be buried in Earth.
00:32:38.000Doesn't make sense, but that's what they say.
00:32:40.000So we are at the beginning of a great, beautiful golden age of business.
00:32:47.000And I think we're also at a golden age of common sense.
00:32:50.000because everything I'm saying to you, from a simple water faucet that doesn't allow water to come out appropriately to all of the other elements of what we do and what we're going to do, to take $50 to $60 trillion off our to take $50 to $60 trillion off our country's balance sheet because some man that has no idea what he's doing has no idea.
00:33:30.000You destroyed the economic viability of drilling in the ocean.
00:33:37.000And with AI coming along and all, you know, a lot of people don't realize that AI is going to be a big thing, but you'll need double the electricity, at least, that we have right now.
00:33:48.000So right now we produce electricity for many, many different things.
00:33:51.000AI is a very big deal in terms of the future.
00:33:56.000China is already building electric facilities, big, bold electric facilities.
00:34:01.000And you know how they're being fired up?
00:34:06.000And we're going to build bigger and better ones.
00:34:10.000People like Hussein, that are doing the same thing as he is, I'll bet they don't do it as well, because I know how he does it, but they're doing...
00:36:16.000I wanted to touch on the world on fire that you mentioned, but let's start, if we could, with your references to Greenland and the Panama Canal and so forth.
00:36:27.000Can you assure the world that as you try to get control of these areas, you are not going to use military or economic coercion?
00:37:33.000But if you remember, and nobody wants to talk about the Panama Canal because, you know, it's inappropriate, I guess, but because it's a bad part of...
00:37:41.000Of the Carter legacy, but he was a good man.
00:37:55.000It cost us the equivalent of a trillion dollars, maybe more than that, probably the most expensive, they say it was the most expensive structure, if we call it a structure, which I guess you can, ever built.
00:38:09.000Giving that away was a horrible thing.
00:38:11.000And I believe that's why Jimmy Carter lost the election, even more so than the hostages.
00:38:38.000To hold on to leverage in dealing with President Putin, would you make a commitment to the Ukrainians that you will keep supporting them during the negotiations?
00:38:48.000Well, I wouldn't tell you if that were the case.
00:38:49.000And would you make a commitment to provide a security guarantee if they do enter into an armistice or a ceasefire along the lines of the French and the Germans?
00:38:59.000So, you know, a big part of the problem was Russia for many, many years, long before Putin said you could never have NATO. And
00:39:35.000To be much worse than it is right now.
00:39:40.000Well, my view is that it was always understood.
00:39:43.000In fact, I believe that they had a deal and then Biden broke it.
00:39:47.000They had a deal, which would have been a satisfactory deal to Ukraine and everybody else, but that Biden said, no, you have to be able to join NATO. And that's always been, and nobody knows more about NATO than I, you know, years ago when I first started this, I didn't know too much about NATO, but I got it right anyway.
00:40:04.000I'm the one that got, and the Secretary General was here, as you know, two weeks ago, saying that if it weren't for me, NATO wouldn't even exist right now because I raised from countries that weren't paying their bills.
00:40:15.000At that time, 28 countries, 20 of them were not paying their bills, 21 to be exact.
00:40:22.000They weren't paying, or they were paying a very small portion.
00:40:27.000And I raised over $680 billion, that was the number he gave, by saying, If you don't pay, we're not going to protect you.
00:40:35.000And as soon as I said that, the money came pouring in.
00:41:56.000If we don't pay our bill, and at that point it was 2%, it should be 5%, it should be 5%, not 2%, but at that point it was 2%, but many people didn't pay.
00:42:06.000Some people didn't pay anything, but many people were away, including Germany.
00:43:23.000First, you said on your first day of office you're going to pardon January 6th defendants.
00:43:28.000Are you planning to pardon those who were charged with violent offenses?
00:43:32.000Well, we're looking at it, and we have other people in there.
00:43:35.000And as you see, I guess 24 or 28 people came now from the FBI. That came out very quietly.
00:43:41.000Nobody reported it, but they had people in some form related to the FBI. They had four or five people that were strongly related to the FBI. We have to find out about that.
00:45:13.000He started, and I said, please don't do that, and he didn't do it.
00:45:18.000But if you look at what happened with Syria, Russia was weakened, Iran was weakened, and he's a very smart guy.
00:45:28.000And he sent his people in there through different forms and different names, and they went in and they took over, and that's the way it is.
00:45:36.000Do you have concerns about HTS taking control?
00:46:52.000Well, I think we're making a lot of progress.
00:46:55.000And I don't want to say too much because...
00:46:59.000I think they're doing a really good job back in Doha.
00:47:02.000I'm leaving tomorrow back to go to Doha.
00:47:06.000But I think that we've had some really great progress, and I'm really hopeful that by the inaugural, we'll have some good things to announce on behalf of the president.
00:47:17.000I actually believe that we're working in tandem in a really good way, but it's the president, his reputation, the things that he has said.
00:51:59.000And let me tell you, the people that you're talking about have a lot of guns in their home for hunting and for shooting and for entertainment, a lot of good reasons.
00:52:07.000But there wasn't one gun that they found.
00:52:11.000And why didn't they find the bomber, the pipe bomber?
00:52:14.000You know, they know who the pipe bomber is.
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00:53:21.000The status of the FBI has gone down so far, and the status of the DOJ, or as I call it, the Department of Justice, it's the Department of Justice, being laughed at all over the world.
00:53:34.000And hopefully with Pam Bondi and with Kash Patel and with other people that we're putting in, that will all come back.
00:53:41.000Agents of the FBI. But they have hurt, hurt that incredible place.
00:56:18.000Secondly, sir, Elon Musk has drawn some criticism and a lot of attention for some of his actions and provocative statements about foreign affairs, including in Europe.
00:56:29.000Your reaction to that, is that appropriate for him?
00:56:31.000You mean where he likes people that tended to be conservative?
00:56:50.000I wanted to ask you about Ukraine and Putin.
00:56:54.000How soon do you anticipate going to meet with Putin to discuss the Ukraine situation?
00:57:00.000Well, I can't tell you that, but I know that Putin would like to meet.
00:57:03.000I don't think it's appropriate that I meet until after the 20th, which I hate, because, you know, every day people are being — many, many young people are being killed, soldiers.
00:58:13.000Mr. President, if you were under the assumption that you're serious about making Canada the 51st state of the United States, the leader of the Conservative Party in Canada said, under no circumstances, he'll never be the 51st state.
00:58:25.000Maybe he won't win, but maybe he will.
00:58:42.000Because Canada and the United States, that would really be something.
00:58:47.000You get rid of that artificially drawn line, and you take a look at what that looks like, and it would also be much better for national security.
00:58:55.000Don't forget, we basically protect Canada.
01:02:03.000You may not be aware of this, but it looks like Cannon has blocked the DOJ from releasing the Smiths report until further court proceedings.
01:02:14.000So, if I get it right, the fake witch hunt started by the DOJ. Having to do with books and records, and Biden had many more, and he wasn't protected by the Presidential Records Act, I was.
01:02:30.000But all of that fake stuff that took the lives of people, I mean, literally destroyed people.
01:02:36.000People are destroyed because of what they did.
01:02:52.000They said, It's illegal, but he's unfit to stand trial.
01:02:56.000So he can stand and be president of the United States, but the prosecutor found that he's unfit for trial.
01:03:03.000I was going to use that as a major talking point, but I never got to use it because all of a sudden I had a new candidate who was also sort of unfit to stand trial, right?
01:03:13.000So what you're saying is that the judge just blocked the...
01:09:06.000Would be double what we paid for it then, six years ago.
01:09:10.000But let me just tell you, they were selling it for 5 cents on the dollar to people, and those people were calling us, asking us to pay them 200 cents, because it's a good deal because we can have it immediately.
01:11:11.000Could you give us a preview of what you might be talking to leaders of Congress who expected to come here in the next couple of days, and you've got a very supportive Congress behind you?
01:12:36.000Nixon came here once, and he thought it was incredible, but he had a thing called Watergate, if anybody remembers that, in his mind, to put it mildly.
01:12:46.000And Jimmy Carter felt that it was too extravagant for the country.
01:12:51.000So fortunately for me, he gave it back to the foundation and I bought it from the foundation.
01:12:55.000On reconciliation, some Republicans say in trade for a massive bill that you and they shared the interest in, they want to see big spending cuts.
01:15:08.000I went to the military, I said, our country is being invaded.
01:15:12.000By very similar, nothing like what's invading our country now.
01:15:16.000They weren't releasing prisons into our country, and they weren't releasing mental institutions in, but some bad dudes were coming in, right?
01:15:25.000And I said, our country is being invaded.
01:15:28.000And I took that money largely from the military.
01:15:30.000I was sued nine times by the Democrats in Congress, and I won all those suits.
01:15:35.000And we ended up building 571 miles of wall.
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01:18:03.000It looks like President Trump has wrapped up his press conference at Mar-a-Lago Lodz.
01:18:10.000A lot of news that was made there saying he's going to, that military use forces on the table at the Panama Canal, potentially with Greenland, tariffs, he's going to be wielding those almost as a weapon, an economic weapon against possibly even Denmark, Panama.
01:18:30.000A lot of news that came out of that press conference.
01:18:34.000One of the main topics obviously being Greenland.
01:18:37.000This morning I woke up to a very early morning message from Charlie saying that he's in Greenland and that I had to host the show, which is, you know...
01:19:05.000Truth about this yesterday, saying that Don Jr. and his representatives were going to be on the ground.
01:19:10.000If you're watching this right now, you can see images of Charlie actually doing kind of live videos from Greenland and Nuke, I believe, is the town they flew over on Air Force One, landed, met with the people.
01:19:26.000What I've heard from Charlie directly is the Greenlanders love Trump.
01:19:34.000They follow Charlie on TikTok and on Twitter.
01:19:37.000X. What an amazing, amazing new era that we are all living in.
01:19:42.000You know, this idea of manifest destiny in the United States, of expansion, of building, of growing, was something that felt like a previous era, bygone era.
01:19:54.000Something when our pioneers were filling out the Western frontier.
01:19:58.000And now we have a president that is...
01:20:01.000We're reversing decades and decades and decades, really a century of stagnation.
01:20:07.000And he's saying, you know, we shouldn't have given away the Panama Canal for a dollar.
01:21:12.000We hold so many cards, both militarily and economically and technologically, and Trump is saying adamantly he is going to be the type of president that uses the force that America has.
01:21:31.000Economic might of America to leverage our position on the world stage and get this country's national interest put first again, whether that be immigration, whether that be technology, whether that be militarily.
01:22:03.000He doesn't get drawn into things he doesn't want to talk about.
01:22:08.000And he works them very easily, actually.
01:22:13.000It's something to behold how this president is able to basically throw off the legacy news media reporters and the pits and the landmines that they are Putting in front of him a truly, truly remarkable show.
01:22:29.000It's wonderful to see as somebody that, you know, personally, I love this country.
01:22:34.000I'm going to live and die in this country.
01:22:37.000My children are going to live and die in this country.
01:22:39.000And to love it as much as I do, and as much as I know many of you in this audience love it and feel the same as I do, to see a president just To boldly assert our interest and to stop apologizing for this country and stop apologizing for what we stand for and what we've accomplished and the amount of power that we can and should exert for the good of the world but mostly for the good of the American people.
01:24:55.000Everybody's saying how amazing it was.
01:24:57.000There was a new verve, a new energy, a new, like I said, swagger, confidence coming out of President Trump this morning.
01:25:06.000And if you just think about this sort of manifest destiny, This expansion, the vibe shift, if you will, out of this new incoming administration, it's truly historic.
01:25:24.000And we've never seen anything like it, where he's openly talking about the fact that Canada should become a state of the U.S., get rid of this trade deficit, that we want to take back the Panama Canal, that we want to make an actual aggressive play.
01:27:58.000Very excited, honored that the host of this show got to be included in such a historic trip and something that could ultimately be radically important for the history of this country.
01:28:13.000It's a renaissance, a constitutional reset.
01:28:16.000But it's an American renaissance all at the same time, and you can feel this happening.
01:28:20.000And for those of you who don't fully appreciate or understand the importance of Greenland, I just want to lay out a few points for you here.
01:28:29.000You know, Greenland is an autonomous territory of Denmark, but it's autonomous, and nobody really understands legally if Greenland has any right to Greenland.
01:28:40.000And Trump has just said in that press conference he is going to use Now, Greenland has said that they are going to vote for pure independence from Denmark.
01:28:54.000Apparently, the people want that there.
01:28:56.000There's not a whole lot of people, but the people that are there, as you saw in the video with Charlie, they love America.
01:29:05.000Now, the United States has had a military presence in Greenland since World War II. Trump is actually not the first president to float buying it.
01:29:15.000In 1946, Harry Truman proposed buying Greenland, but the idea was never really pursued.
01:29:21.000President Trump brought this up again in 2019. So he revived the conversation, and Denmark rejected the idea.
01:29:29.000And we're hearing reports that, you know, Greenland is saying it's not for sale, Denmark is saying it's not for sale.
01:29:51.000It can serve as a forward base for air and sea operations in the North Atlantic, and it has key resources.
01:30:00.000Greenland is extraordinarily rich in minerals like lithium and nickel, which are the key ingredients for an advanced military technology and energy economy.
01:30:11.000So when we talk about AI and we talk about crypto, these things are going to be key.
01:30:44.000And then fifth is just an economic and military advantage.
01:30:47.000Control over Greenland would secure trade routes and strengthen America's military presence, keeping China and Russia and other rivals at bay.
01:30:56.000So it's a huge, huge story developing.
01:30:59.000There's only 57,000 people in Greenland.
01:31:04.000Candidly, have a lot to gain from being closer because it's being closer to America.
01:31:47.000And to help make sense of what we have just witnessed and Charlie's trip to Greenland, of course, so much more is the one and only Kane from Citizen Free Press.
01:31:57.000Kane, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show, my friend.
01:33:38.000I'm going to be waiting on bated breath to hear what he has to say.
01:33:41.000But, Cain, what stood out to me, and I would love your reaction to this, is that the era of apologizing for America is over.
01:33:50.000Trump is boldly asserting our national interests, both here domestically from a policy standpoint, whether that be...
01:33:57.000You know, gas heaters, gas stoves, you know, how much water comes out of your faucet.
01:34:03.000He's pushing back against this domestic tyranny we've all been living under, especially in the last four years.
01:34:08.000But then he's also doing it abroad, whether it's the Gulf of America, Greenland, Panama, Canada, all of these different storylines about the hostages.
01:34:17.000You know, this was huge news that he made during this press conference, saying that you have two weeks, Hamas, and if there's not a deal done...
01:34:24.000To return the hostages from October 7th, hell will break out in the Middle East.
01:35:52.000You know, Trump is a little bit trolling.
01:35:55.000We know he's trolling Canada again with his true social post yesterday about the 51st state.
01:36:01.000But he does it in a way that makes sense.
01:36:04.000And it speaks to the sort of make Canada great again audience that we know that is at least 50-60% of the Canadian populace.
01:36:14.000And it's the same thing with Greenland.
01:36:16.000You know, I think he's trolling slightly less with Greenland, certainly, and the fact that Greenland has said they want their independence from Denmark and that now Trump, as you mentioned, has said that he'll use tariffs against Denmark if they attempt to intervene in any movement that we make to sort of align Greenland with the U.S., whether that's making them a territory.
01:36:38.000Or whatever, you know, that final result would be.
01:36:59.000You know, that's the last thing, dude.
01:37:01.000We earned this with hard work and every single day for four years.
01:37:06.000We didn't know if these days were going to come.
01:37:07.000And even if they came, we didn't know, for example, if we were going to hold the House and whether Jamie Raskin was going to attempt his Democrat insurrection.
01:37:16.000So it's really nice just to be able to take deep breaths and remind ourselves that we won.
01:37:40.000I mean, Trump is not usually somebody to use sort of flowery language.
01:37:44.000And when he says a new light is dawning over the world.
01:37:48.000You know, it feels a little bit out of character.
01:37:51.000But then I challenge myself to come up with a different way of saying it.
01:37:56.000And it really does feel like there is a new light dawning over the world.
01:38:01.000This tyrannical, that we've broken the back of this tyranny.
01:38:05.000And we haven't even talked about this yet, Cain, on this show.
01:38:09.000But in the midst of this, you're seeing Mark Zuckerberg from Meta, Facebook.
01:38:16.000It comes out with this huge, huge announcement this morning.
01:38:21.000And just to break it down for our audience, since it's new here, he's saying he's getting rid of the fact-checkers, that they have destroyed more trust than they've built, and it's become too politicized.
01:38:31.000He's moving the content moderation team from California to Texas.
01:38:36.000He's openly saying he wants to work with the Trump administration to push back.
01:38:42.000Against the censorship in these other countries because he says that America has the most robust free speech protections and that the last four years have been hard with America's own government pushing for censorship.
01:38:54.000Biden's administration under the bus while lifting up Trump and saying, we need help to fight back on the world stage.
01:40:15.000Again, it would be the biggest story of the day if it weren't for Trump just doing 90 minutes and blowing the socks off the national media.
01:40:21.000What Biden did four of those press conferences and they were all scripted in four years.
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01:41:49.000Kane, I... I'm just seeing something breaking across the wire here.
01:41:52.000It says, "EU MPs call for immediate action against Elon Musk.
01:41:58.000After Musk's promotional tour for the AFD in Germany, the next conflict arises.
01:42:05.000Platform X is said to be violating EU laws.
01:42:08.000Brussels MPs want to enforce stricter rules for X." There's a whole debate here going around Elon Musk of whether or not he's exerting influence politically and a billionaire shouldn't be exerting influence politically.
01:42:20.000But it strikes me as kind of similar, and I think that's garbage, let me just say.
01:42:24.000I mean, where were they when George Soros was exerting political influence all over the world, especially in the United States?
01:42:30.000Bill Gates, so many other billionaires do the same.
01:42:33.000You know, Mark Zuckerberg was saying something similar, saying, you know, I need the U.S. government and President Trump's help to push back against these sanctions and these censorship laws in the rest of the world.
01:42:47.000What I mean, this is a this is looks like almost the new dividing line, the new fissure globally in the fight for free speech is now developing.
01:42:58.000In this European bloc that is terrified of the rise of populism.
01:43:04.000That's correct, and you see it, and that's really what it's about.
01:43:07.000It's their fear of populism as it spreads.
01:43:11.000We've seen, first it was Gert Wilders in the Netherlands, and we saw the French government kicked out.
01:43:22.000We know probably how that's going to turn out.
01:43:25.000We've seen what's happened in the UK and the rise of the Reform Party.
01:43:28.000So, and then paying attention to media, as I know you do, you know that these sort of, these free speech attacks and censorship requirements coming out of the EU have, this has really been going on for three or four years.
01:43:42.000I mean, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, they've all sort of been facing these kind of draconian laws.
01:43:52.000That free speech and our First Amendment right that our founders gave us, that does not exist in Europe, and it doesn't exist in the UK. I mean, everything that people have seen over the last six months, including what's going on with Tommy Robinson, shows you that there is no free speech in Europe and Great Britain.
01:44:19.000I think Elon Musk's transformation over the last six years from a pretty much regular voting Democrat all the way to a full embracer of the America First agenda and MAGA, I think it shows that people can change and we need to embrace these people when they want to help us.
01:44:37.000And I've seen the same thing this morning with Zuckerberg, right?
01:44:40.000And you've probably seen the same thing.
01:44:42.000You know, we've seen hints of this change.
01:44:46.000And yet our base is a little bit skeptical, right?
01:44:49.000They're like, oh, don't trust the guy.
01:44:51.000But I want to tell people, look, when you can sort of see this, this is organic, this feels real in Zuckerberg.
01:44:59.000Sure, he's looking out for his companies, but at the same time...
01:45:02.000What I mentioned before the break about sort of the MMA training.
01:45:56.000You know, Kane, it occurs to me that...
01:45:59.000We've been talking about exporting American democracy and values across the globe, and what do we get for it?
01:46:07.000We get LGBTQ flags flying at embassies, and we get DEI and CRT being injected worldwide, and we get anti-free speech laws through NATO and censorship in the EU. That time is over.
01:46:22.000We should be very, very blunt with Europe.
01:46:24.000If Europe doesn't have free speech laws, they don't have our support.
01:47:07.000You combine that with news out of Facebook, Meta, Zuckerberg, changing so much of what he does over at that company with Trump's historic press conference.
01:47:28.000To help us make sense of that and also how it affects us internationally, what's going on in Europe right now, is Rahim Kassam, thenationalpulse.com.
01:47:37.000Rahim, welcome to The Charlie Kirk Show.
01:47:47.000Raheem and I had a fascinating conversation last night.
01:47:50.000And so when Charlie surprised me with his trip to Greenland, I said, Raheem, let's continue the conversation on the show.
01:47:59.000So, Raheem, you are probably one of the...
01:48:04.000The top experts in the country, both in America but also internationally, when it comes to this topic of free speech.
01:48:11.000I mean, from your time at Breitbart to your time now at the National Pulse, you fought alongside Nigel Farage with Brexit and now with reform.
01:48:20.000I mean, you've seen it from both sides of the pond.
01:48:40.000Yeah, so, you know, a man from your neck of the woods once said trust but verify, but I'm sort of more the type that is just never trusting.
01:48:49.000So to answer that question very bluntly, and in the same way that President Trump answered the question earlier on in the press conference about using economic or military force to secure Greenland or Panama.
01:49:06.000I cannot say that I trust Mark Zuckerberg.
01:49:08.000I cannot even say that I trust his new so-called Republican apparatus.
01:49:12.000But what I will say is that since 2020, we have been deconstructing what this fact-check regime actually looks like inside Facebook, who they use as fact-checkers, right down to who the individual people are who are doing.
01:49:33.000And we had a great deal of, well, you know this, Andrew, you know, we at the National Pulse, we don't spend a lot of money on marketing and PR and, you know, going on, you know, Fox News or whatever, pumping up our stories, but we do that quiet, diligent, hard work behind the scenes.
01:49:46.000And what it led to was one of these fact-checkers, by the name of Lead Stories, actually having to remove some of their staff because we outed them as being Democrat donors, outright Democrat activists.
01:49:59.000And indeed, Lead Stories themselves had signed to work with the Chinese Communist Party's TikTok app a couple of years ago.
01:50:08.000So we've been chipping away and chipping away at this for quite some time.
01:50:15.000To my skepticism, my cynicism, and perhaps my negativity over Mark Zuckerberg, I do think we are starting to make the right inroads, and this is a development that shows you that.
01:50:28.000The fact-checking regimen at Meta, at Facebook, and by the way, it's not just them, but it's a huge platform that lots of people still use, has been so opaque.
01:50:41.000It has lacked transparency, and we've tried to shine a light on who these people are and what their so-called fact checks do.
01:50:47.000I'm delighted that we're moving to a more community-based, like a community note system like X or Twitter has, but let's see how it actually is implemented, because the devil, once again, will be in the detail.
01:51:00.000Well, and one of the things I want to bring, and I appreciate that skepticism, on some level, one of the things I heard in the Zuckerberg video was that It just feels a little bit too...
01:51:12.000It's easy for him to sort of move that Titanic.
01:51:17.000I know it's slow, and he said it's going to take some time, but what happens if the political winds shift again?
01:51:22.000Is he just going to move it back in a direction that's anti-American?
01:51:27.000But I will say, and now I want to broaden this conversation to make it...
01:51:36.000You know, because one of the things he says in that video is he wants to work with President Trump and that because of America's robust free speech laws, it has made the last few years incredibly difficult for a company like Facebook because he didn't have the backing of the American government.
01:51:52.000As a matter of fact, they were coercing Facebook and Meta to become more censorious.
01:51:57.000You see this, it's just breaking right now, is that European MPs are now calling for stricter rules against Elon.
01:52:04.000They want to go on the attack against Elon because he's exerting force.
01:52:43.000Very terrifying videos of people having police come to their homes because they posted something on Facebook, right, that they weren't supposed to about migrants or the like.
01:52:55.000How does this news from Facebook, how does this apply to the UK? Are we seeing an expansion or is this going to be a World War III transatlantic from a free speech perspective, of course?
01:53:08.000And in the very few hours that we've had since the Zuckerberg announcement this morning, these are the type of questions that we're mulling over that we're trying to figure out the answers to.
01:53:17.000Of course, European members of parliament, the European Commission, all of these bureaucrats, and the entire vast operation that has worked for so long to try and tamp down on people's free speech, they will absolutely be having a freakout right now.
01:53:38.000They will be in a full-on meltdown over the fact that ordinary people might get to say what they think once again, without being tamped down on, without their accounts being deleted, restricted, suspended.
01:53:51.000All of the things that have happened to me, by the way.
01:53:53.000The irony is, just last week, I got three strikes in a row on my Facebook page telling me that I'm about to lose it because some fact-checker...
01:54:04.000It may have been lead stories, may have been another one that they used, disagreed with my framing of a story in some way, shape or form.
01:54:10.000So I look forward to the end of that regime, but the Brussels apparatus, the Davos apparatus, certainly won't.
01:54:16.000As it pertains specifically to the United Kingdom, look, if I were in the UK today, I suspect I would already be behind bars for some of the things that I share on social media.
01:54:45.000But what is at the heart of the things that he posts and the things that he shares is his love for his country and his willing intent to try and shine a light on these Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Muslim grooming and rape gangs, scandals which have been going on for two decades now plus in the United States.
01:55:14.000But because a comma might be in the wrong place or an I isn't dotted or a T isn't crossed in some of his posts, the authorities use that as a cudgel by which to beat him with.
01:55:26.000He, as far as they are concerned, is one of those grubby, working-class, deplorable garbage types who shouldn't actually be able to have their say.
01:55:37.000There can be arguments about the things that he's done and the way he's gone about them.
01:55:41.000You have to bear in mind at its core what this is about.
01:55:45.000To answer your broader question, yeah, look, we have a newly elected Labour left-wing of the Democrats' government in the United Kingdom.
01:55:54.000They will resist what Mark Zuckerberg is doing, what Donald Trump is bringing back to Washington, D.C., and of course are already resisting what Elon Musk is doing, to the point where yesterday they said they may even sever.
01:56:07.000The United Kingdom's national security agreements with the United States, if Donald Trump agrees with Elon Musk on this stuff, that is not small beer.
01:56:17.000That is a fundamental reorientation of the geopolitical order.
01:56:22.000If Labour want to reorient and tie themselves more up with Brussels and perhaps even more up with Beijing, yes, there may be, as you say, some transatlantic, I don't know.
01:56:35.000Warfare might be a strong word, but some irreversible friction.
01:56:40.000Yeah, I mean, I think that's really...
01:56:42.000I mean, you brought up a number of really good points there, Rahim.
01:56:45.000I, for one, am personally in the camp that America should be exerting its economic and military...
01:57:00.000Defend Europe via NATO. There are levers that we can pull to, you know, instead of exporting the LGBTQ flag at our embassies and ensuring that the censorship regime is alive and well with our transatlantic partners, is to say, hey, you know, instead of that, we're actually going to defend free speech.
01:57:17.000And we're going to defend nations that protect the free speech of its countries.
01:57:20.000Because it occurs to me, Raheem, the Tommy Robinson example, and I do want to understand...
01:57:26.000From you, more of what the dynamics within reform and Nigel and Tommy and Elon, I think that's an important conversation.
01:57:34.000But it occurs to me that what's happening with these grooming gangs is directly tied to the free speech conversation that we're having today.
01:57:43.000Because if it was more robust, the protections for citizens to speak out, I understand there's a social...
01:57:52.000Where it becomes, you know, the scarlet letter, you know, you're a racist, you're a xenophobe or whatever, that you don't speak out more broadly, right?
01:57:59.000I mean, there is a social pressure that it's not necessarily legal.
01:58:29.000If people had the ability to speak out more profoundly, more boldly, without fear of reprisal, attack, fines, or even imprisonment, little girls would have been saved.
01:58:46.000That's why we started reporting on it back when I used to run Breitbart's London Bureau, back in 2013 and 2014. You know, I am somebody who most people will realize doesn't actually care about the blowback and the reprisals, bring it on as far as I'm concerned.
01:59:00.000And when you're right, it's tens of thousands of people who have been targeted with this stuff.
01:59:05.000Then to stay quiet, to not speak would be the greatest.
01:59:09.000Yeah, I think you're absolutely right.
01:59:11.000And by the way, for the audience that maybe isn't read in on this, the actual reports of what's happened to these little girls, it's so chilling.
01:59:56.000And how does reform take it to the next level when you've got Nigel basically going on the record saying, hey, you know, that's a bridge too far with the Tommy thing.
02:00:06.000And then Elon Musk saying, Nigel doesn't have what it takes.
02:00:08.000Now, I know you're a big Nigel supporter.
02:00:11.000You've been with Nigel for a long time.
02:00:12.000How does reform pick it up and get to the next level and really help make, you know, Britain great again?
02:00:20.000Yeah, you're asking a question that really goes back decades in political history in the UK now.
02:00:32.000The lid was blown off on this issue years and years ago in the United Kingdom.
02:00:38.000Rupert Murdoch's The Times newspaper had splashed it on the front pages.
02:00:43.000It's been in the Daily Mail, the Express.
02:00:44.000So it's not to say that the media has not covered this.
02:00:48.000I understand that a lot of Americans and people...
02:00:49.000People around the world are waking up to this story now.
02:00:52.000But credit where it's due, the story has been covered.
02:00:57.000Now, it's been euphemistically covered, not by us.
02:00:59.000We cover it in the most kind of literal and demonstrative ways possible.
02:01:05.000The gruesome stories that you mentioned before the break.
02:01:08.000You know, are part of that wider narrative that has to be told.
02:01:12.000And so places like the BBC will try and hide it.
02:01:14.000They will allude to the background of these men.
02:01:17.000They will just say Asian, whereas what they really mean is Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Muslim men account for the vast, vast, vast, over 90% majority of the perpetrators of these heinous crimes against young girls.
02:01:31.000But what you're talking about here is this really odd dynamic on the political right in the UK where...
02:01:40.000You know, you've got kind of the street activist, extremely working class end of things in Tommy Robinson's group, formerly of the English Defence League.
02:01:50.000That organisation has had lots of running street battles with Antifa, you know, physical fights, brawls, smashing things up, fights with police, you know, almost what, you know, the papers and the middle classes would call, you know, football hooliganism or yobbish behaviour.
02:02:10.000I don't subscribe to those definitions.
02:02:12.000I'm just kind of trying to lay the land here.
02:02:15.000On the flip side of the political right in the UK, you've got Nigel Farage, who is a private school-educated former metals trader in the city of London who has worked since the mid-'90s to extricate Britain from its relationship with the European Union and has focused on mass immigration as a critical topic there.
02:02:36.000Over the last year, Nigel has taken this party, and it was originally the UK Independence Party, then it became the Brexit Party, and now it's the Reform Party.
02:02:46.000From being a 5% party in the polls 10 years ago, to beating...
02:02:52.000The Labour Party and indeed the Conservative Party in national polls today.
02:02:57.000So Nigel's perspective on this is we did all of this without having to go there.
02:03:02.000Don't tell me I have to go there and allow us to be besmirched as yobs and hooligans and whatnot.
02:03:09.000You also have to understand that there is a significant chunk of the British middle class voter.
02:03:17.000Who are looking for reasons to stop voting for Labour and the Conservative parties.
02:03:21.000And if you tell them that reform is necessarily linked over here, they just won't do it.
02:03:26.000So it's a very fine line that has to be tread, a political fine line that has to be tread here to ensure that reform can actually take over from the two legacy establishment parties.
02:03:52.000The people who have been critical of Nigel over the last couple of days because he doesn't want to be allied with Tommy Robinson, I will say this.
02:04:01.000This is not the time to be watching a party.
02:04:05.000The only political movement that could surge and replace the Tories and Labour and trying to drive a wedge through the political right.
02:04:13.000In fact, the people who are doing that I regard as splitters.
02:04:17.000I regard as contrary to the greater cause.
02:04:20.000And I just think this is a fight that the establishment, the EU, Davos and the left absolutely love.