On January 6th, 1981, a young man named Timothy Hale was in the streets of Washington, D.C. taking selfies with statues. He was arrested and convicted of a crime he didn't commit. He served 3 years in prison, served 14 months, and had to have his conviction overturned. On this episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, we take a look back at the events that took place on that day.
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00:04:18.000In the aftermath of the violence that occurred on January 6, 2021, Congress took steps to make it harder for Congress to overturn an election result.
00:04:28.000Back before then, the law allowed for one House member and one senator to vote to overturn any individual state's election results.
00:04:36.000By having one member from each chamber actually could force a vote in both chambers of Congress to get rid of that state's certified electoral result.
00:04:45.000In the aftermath of 2021, Congress required now one-fifth of both the House and the Senate.
00:04:51.000That is a threshold for the number of members who have to agree to force a vote to overturn a state election result.
00:04:57.000That much higher threshold will make it much harder for anyone to try to get rid of any electoral result that was certified by individual states.
00:05:05.000Joining us now as they are trying to frame it in that...
00:05:11.000Context is Timothy Hale, January 6th defendant who had his conviction overturned.
00:05:24.000I had a pretty egregious story, though unfortunately with January 6th, it's not the most egregious.
00:05:31.000I was actually incarcerated with dozens of other J6ers in the D.C. jail, what they call the D.C. gulag.
00:05:37.000And we were essentially deprived of our civil liberties for quite some time.
00:05:41.000On January 6th, as you alluded to in the introduction, I was working for the United States government, and I was also an internet comedian, and I was smeared as a domestic terrorist and a far-right extremist.
00:06:43.000President Trump did not direct us to commit crimes.
00:06:46.000I walked into the Capitol building because I followed a crowd and the doors were open.
00:06:51.000Forty minutes later, the Capitol police asked me to leave and I left.
00:06:54.000And so after that, I was hunted down by the FBI and NCIS. And I was sentenced to four years in prison, and I ended up doing three years on that bid.
00:07:05.000There's a lot to talk about with regard to January 6th, and I'm happy to answer any questions and elaborate.
00:07:12.000How did your life change because of this and go through the personal financial cost and difficulty that you had to go through because of it?
00:07:21.000Well, I suppose the first most obvious thing is that I... Inevitably, I became a convict, though fortunately my conviction has now been vacated a few weeks ago.
00:09:39.000We know the names of several Antifa members who were there.
00:09:42.000We have reason to believe that there were hundreds, according to the confessions of some.
00:09:47.000But we also need to understand that there were plainclothes police officers there, Capitol Police and Metro, especially the electronic surveillance units.
00:09:56.000You had undercover FBI agents who were there.
00:10:02.000And there were Defense Intelligence Agency assets there that were there that day.
00:10:06.000There were people on satellite phones.
00:10:07.000And the government is covering this up.
00:10:10.000And I'm sure you saw the report recently where the government finally admitted in a report that, oh, there might have been 20 or so confidential human sources who were there.
00:10:19.000But most of them just happened to be there.
00:10:28.000And we finally secure the Department of Justice, the Department of Defense, the Department of Homeland Security, and all the other three-letter agencies.
00:10:36.000I think we're going to see that there was a staggering level of infiltration.
00:10:40.000And there were quite a few assets deployed there that day who were encouraging violence, who were encouraging breaches of the Capitol perimeter, and who were inciting the crowd to go inside the Capitol.
00:10:54.000And of course, those entities largely face no consequences.
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00:11:59.000I just want to ask you before we cut into the Congress that is certifying the vote.
00:12:03.000What would it mean, both for you and more broadly, for all of the January 6th defendants to get a pardon on the first day from President Trump?
00:12:12.000Well, to an extent, it would mean vindication.
00:12:17.000But, you know, there are a lot of different cases with a lot of different factors, and we've all had different stories.
00:12:23.000But I think I could speak for a lot of January 6th defendants where I say that a pardon would be welcomed, but what we really want is exoneration.
00:12:33.000We want the world to know that we were innocent and that we were set up, and we would like the evidence to finally come out, to stop being hidden.
00:12:40.000And we want those who set us up to be held accountable.
00:12:43.000So I look forward to President Trump Offering clemency to those who are behind bars still.
00:12:49.000I look forward to my friends from the gulag being let out and rejoining their families.
00:12:54.000But more than anything, I want this country to be secure in the future.
00:12:58.000And I'm hoping that President Trump will ensure that those who entrapped us, those who set us up, and those who really tried to destroy our lives, that they're held accountable.
00:13:14.000And that means holding those accountable.
00:13:16.000So do you think that, final question, restitution, a payment of some amount to all the defendants for all that you guys had to go through, is that something that is even on your radar?
00:14:40.000Okay, let's cut right into Congress right now.
00:14:42.000...from that Donald J. Trump of the state of Florida received three votes for president, and J.D. Vance of the state of Ohio received three votes for vice president.
00:14:52.000Madam President, the certificate of the electoral vote of the state of Ohio seems to be regular in form and authentic, and the certificate of the electoral vote of the state of Ohio seems to be regular in form and authentic, and it appears therefrom that Donald J. Trump of the state of Florida received and it appears therefrom that Donald J. Trump
00:15:21.000*applause* Madam President, the certificate of the electoral vote of the state of Oklahoma seems to be regular in form and authentic, and it appears, therefrom, that Donald J. Trump of the state of Florida received seven votes for president,
00:15:48.000And J.D. Vance of the state of Ohio received seven votes for vice president.
00:15:54.000Madam President, the certificate of the electoral vote of the state of Oregon seems to be regular in form and authentic.
00:16:08.000And it appears therefrom that Kamala D. Harris of the state of California received eight votes for president.
00:16:13.000And Tim Walls of the state of Minnesota received eight votes for vice president.
00:16:26.000Madam President, the certificate of the electoral vote of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania seems to be regular, informed, and authentic.
00:16:35.000And it appears, therefrom, that Donald J. Trump of the state of Florida received 19 votes for president, and J.D. Vance of the state of Ohio received 19 votes for vice president.
00:16:46.000Madam President, the certificate of the electoral vote of the state of Rhode Island seems to be regular in form and authentic.
00:17:03.000And it appears, therefrom, that Kamala D. Harris of the state of California received four votes for president, and Tim Walls of the state of Minnesota received four votes for vice president.
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00:18:26.000For decades, in all kinds of British cities, mostly the British equivalent of the Rust Belt in Appalachia, places with de-industrialization and downscale whites, there's been a massive resettlement, legal resettlement, of Pakistani migrants.
00:18:42.000For decades, these Pakistani migrants have collectively groomed young girls, many not even teenagers yet, for abuse and sexual assault.
00:18:50.000The specific allegations are often really terrible, like women gang-raped, burned with cigarettes, tortured in various ways.
00:18:58.000One girl went missing and was allegedly turned into kebab meat.
00:19:01.000Her killers were set free after a jury could not.
00:19:06.000Now, police knew about this, but routinely did nothing because they feared accusations of racism.
00:20:50.000in the Labour Party back in 2003 but the same can be said for Sarah Champion who was part of Jeremy Corbyn's Labour team and she was forced to resign by Jeremy Corbyn when she wrote an article decrying the Pakistani Muslim rape gangs.
00:21:07.000Not only that, journalists have been called Racist every time they've tried to discuss the issue.
00:21:14.000Famously, Andrew Norfolk of the Times of London in his 2011 report.
00:21:18.000These are some of the most horrific murders and crimes.
00:21:22.000In fact, I would say it is the most horrific, terrible sex crime in British history.
00:21:30.000And it was brought to global attention for the first time thanks to Elon Musk, who about a week ago dug up...
00:21:39.000Some old, or retweeted, reposted some old clippings from transcripts and inquiries, a couple of which were, I think, about 10 years old, describing some of the torture of these young girls.
00:21:52.000I won't go into too many details, but some of these girls were doused in petrol.
00:21:58.000One girl, her whole house was set to light with her and her family, that's Lucy Lowe, were killed along the way.
00:22:05.000She was survived by her daughter, who was...
00:22:38.000But quite shockingly, I actually can't believe this, the response from the British left, from progressives, from the Westminster elite, has not been to finally decry this wide-scale raping of young British underclass girls.
00:23:01.000The very poorest, and like you described, like the equivalent of the Rust Belt, in 50 towns and cities up and down our nation, from Edinburgh down to Bristol and everywhere in between.
00:23:13.000And the British left, unbelievably, instead of talking about the perpetrators, talking about who of the politicians, of the judiciary, of the police, of the social force, of local councils, they are going after Musk!
00:23:32.000Now, our Prime Minister, Sir Keir Starmer, today, after a week, finally gave a press conference.
00:23:39.000I couldn't quite believe this when I watched it this morning.
00:23:44.000Three questions were asked by the mainstream media about Musk before any question was asked about the rape gangs.
00:23:53.000This is how perverse the mainstream media are in our country.
00:23:59.000I don't even have the language to describe how perverse, how morally inverted this all is.
00:24:06.000Starmer's response, well, he tried to claim that his record as director of public prosecutions when he was head of the Crown Prosecutions Service, his record was that he had tried to do something about this.
00:24:28.000There's one story by the Daily Mail, which was published last year.
00:24:34.000The investigative reporter Guy Adams discovered, and I quote, that during the period that Sir Keir Starmer was director of public prosecutions, he attended 21 of 23 meetings in which the Sentencing Council formulated new guidelines relating to 50 different sex offences.
00:24:53.000The crimes that were looked at during this review ranged from rape and sexual assault to prostitution, grooming, sex trafficking, voyeurism, exposure and child pornography.
00:25:03.000Eventually, the council decided that 20 of these crimes could, in certain circumstances, be punished via community orders rather than prison sentences.
00:25:23.000Not only did he do that, he said that those in Britain who wanted another public inquiry into the wide industrial raping of our children were on the far-right bandwagon.
00:25:38.000If you oppose mass gang rape of children, you are part of the far-right.
00:25:45.000So this is a very complex and big story.
00:25:48.000Musk immediately hit back on X, responding.
00:25:52.000Saying that actually he thinks that it would be Starmer who would be found guilty if there was truly to be an inquiry.
00:26:00.000Another thing about the inquiry that's worth noting.
00:26:03.000Jess Phillips, who rather ironically is Minister of Safeguarding, has rejected appeals from the people of Oldham, one of the towns in which famously these gangs were operating in.
00:26:54.000If I could summarise what had happened and tie it all together, it would be that the ideology of mass migration and multiculturalism combined with a failure of local councils, local police, a fear, as you rightly pointed out, of being called racist, lest you call this out.
00:27:17.000From everyone, from those people up to the politicians and to the mainstream media.
00:27:23.000All of these people have this ideology of diversity is our greatest thing.
00:27:30.000They all have this ideology of mass migration, of multiculturalism, and that it's a good and that there's no downside.
00:27:38.000And as a consequence, the most vulnerable in our society have been let down on a scale that...
00:28:34.000Well, anyone who dared say anything about it was...
00:28:38.000Was called far-right, was called racist.
00:28:41.000And so they were threatened by losing everything, losing their careers.
00:28:45.000Indeed, Jeremy Corbyn, as I said, sacked Sarah Champion when she brought something up.
00:28:52.000Gordon Brown, the former prime minister, whilst prime minister in 2008, said to the police, he put a circulation round to the police, he says, do not investigate the grooming gang's things.
00:29:40.000And can I say, as a Brit, if you're following this stuff on Twitter, you'll see a lot of the Westminster and the British establishment going after Musk.
00:29:47.000Well, can I say, as a Brit, thank you to Elon Musk for bringing this atrocity to the light of the world.
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00:31:18.000Kamala Harris resides over the counting of the election results to have to declare herself the loser.
00:31:24.000To have to declare herself that she did not win.
00:31:29.000Play cut 26. The votes for President of the United States are as follows.
00:31:35.000Donald J. Trump of the state of Florida has received 312 votes.
00:31:40.000Kamala D. Harris of the state of California has received 226 votes.
00:31:46.000This announcement of the state of the vote by the president of the Senate shall be deemed a sufficient declaration of the persons elected president and vice president of the United States, each for a term beginning on the 20th day of January each for a term beginning on the 20th day of January This is huge history, everybody.
00:32:09.000And I want to congratulate Kamala Harris for making history today.
00:32:13.000Kamala Harris is the first woman of color to ever certify her own election defeat.
00:32:19.000But we're not sure exactly what color she is.
00:33:19.000Today is a huge setback for the Great Reset.
00:33:22.000Today is a dark night of the soul for the globalists and let us not get too cocky or too prideful.
00:33:27.000Let us not get too ahead of ourselves.
00:33:30.000Let us still stay in the humble place that we were when we were in midnight 2021. When they were raiding our homes and they were going after all of our friends and they were going after Bannon and they were going after Navarro.