Someone who knows Kash Patel best, Robert O'Brien, talks about why he should be FBI Director, and then Eric Metaxas talks about his new Bonhoeffer film. Get tickets to AmericaFest today, Amfest.
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00:01:32.000Robert, who is Kash Patel and is Kash qualified to be FBI director?
00:01:36.000Well, it's great to be with you, Charlie.
00:01:37.000Thank you, and thanks for all the work you did.
00:01:39.000I haven't stopped smiling since the election, and you were a big part of that.
00:01:43.000I saw you at all the rallies, and you and your whole team just turned out millions of voters for the president, so thank you.
00:01:50.000And that led to Kash Patel being nominated as FBI Director.
00:01:56.000There's a character of Kash Patel that the left has tried to portray, which just isn't true.
00:02:01.000And I can tell you, Kash worked for me.
00:02:03.000He was my Senior Director for Counterterrorism at the National Security Council for two years.
00:02:09.000He did a great job, brought hostages home, helped us get al-Baghdadi, the mastermind of ISIS who killed Kayla Mueller and so many other Americans, and James Sheffoli and others.
00:02:21.000He's a highly qualified, I don't want to say young man now, we're all getting older, but he's one of the most qualified people ever to be nominated as FBI director.
00:02:31.000There's this myth out there that he's unqualified.
00:02:50.000He was personally involved in rescuing hostages from abroad.
00:02:56.000Then he went to the DNI and worked for Rick Grinnell, his chief of staff.
00:03:01.000And then he went over to the Pentagon at the end of the administration and worked for Chris Miller.
00:03:05.000So here's a guy who's got prosecutorial experience, defense experience, house intelligence experience under Devin Nunes, NSC experience, running counter-terrorism, and DOD and ODNI experience.
00:03:19.000So he's a superbly qualified man to take this job, and I'm really excited the president nominated him.
00:03:57.000And one of the things that, when I was a hostage envoy before I became National Security Advisor, we heard from the Syrians that they wanted a senior U.S. official to come negotiate with them in Damascus.
00:04:06.000But we had a policy of not sending U.S. officials there for various reasons, one of which was security.
00:04:11.000There was no real easy way to get to Damascus.
00:04:14.000You had to drive over land for Beirut.
00:04:16.000You had to get in a car and go across the Syrian desert.
00:04:19.000In other words, Al-Qaeda was there, ISIS was there, the Syrian regime was there.
00:04:25.000And I tried to get into Syria as a hostage envoy.
00:04:30.000But then when I was National Security Advisor, the Syrians said, okay, send in an official.
00:04:34.000And we sent Kash Patel and Roger Carstens, our hostage envoy.
00:04:38.000Those guys got in an SUV in Beirut, and they drove across that very dangerous, brutal landscape, and they got to Damascus.
00:04:46.000They could have been taken by the regime, they could have been taken hostage by al-Qaeda, by al-Nusra, any of these bad actors that are in the region, and they negotiated to get Austin out.
00:04:56.000Now, unfortunately, we didn't get Austin home.
00:04:59.000But the mission was so dangerous that Secretary Pompeo did not want them to go, and up until the last minute was opposed to it.
00:05:06.000But Cash went to the president and said, look, we've got to get this kid out.
00:05:11.000It may or may not work, but we've got to take every opportunity we can to free him.
00:05:15.000And so he went on that dangerous mission at personal risk.
00:05:20.000Never talked about it, never made a big deal about it, but it was something that always impressed the heck out of me.
00:05:25.000I can tell you, when I heard it was back in Beirut and back at our embassy, I was, you know, I got called in the middle of the night and I was told he was back safely, and Roger, his compatriot, were back safely.
00:05:35.000I was so thrilled, but when people tell me about Kash Patel and who Kash Patel is, I want to look at them and say, hey, why don't you do what Kash Patel did and go into Syria and negotiate with Bashar al-Assad's bad guys and drive through Indian country to get there, and then tell me about Kash Patel.
00:06:13.000Play cut 13. Yeah, I think, though, when you put, like, a partisan hack in place of the FBI, that doesn't restore faith with the general American public, not just the people who voted for Donald Trump, but the people that he has to represent, which are all Americans.
00:06:27.000This is kind of the authoritarian approach of come in, disrupt, without a real plan forward.
00:06:43.000It's a terrible development for the men and women of the FBI and also for the nation that depends on a highly functioning, professional, independent Federal Bureau of Investigation.
00:06:57.000The fact that Kash Patel is profoundly unqualified for this job is not even like a matter for debate.
00:07:04.000The installation, or the nomination, I guess we should say at this point, of Kash Patel's FBI director can only possibly be a plan to disrupt, to dismantle, to distract the FBI, and to possibly use it as a tool for the president's political agenda.
00:07:29.000Here's a guy who did more damage to one of the great institutions of America, the FBI, which I believe in.
00:07:35.000The FBI is one of the things that makes America great.
00:07:38.000And McCabe and Strzok and Comey, These people ruined the FBI. They turned it into a partisan branch of the Democrat National Committee, the police force of the Democrats.
00:07:48.000But they were so inept at what they did, they even took down Hillary Clinton by mistake.
00:07:58.000And for them to come after someone with integrity like Cash Patel, who's got a better resume by far than McCabe has, it's just an embarrassment.
00:08:07.000That guy should not be on TV. Yeah, and can you just speak for a second?
00:08:11.000You were the former National Security Advisor for President Trump.
00:08:16.000One of your predecessors actually was a victim of an illegal FBI entrapment plot by Peter Strzok from the FBI. Can you speak about that intersection here and remind people, Andy McCabe launched an illegal FBI entrapment plot in the halls of the White House.
00:08:37.000Please remind our audience of how your predecessor, Michael Flynn, was a target of McCabe's FBI. Yeah, so I was at the State Department at that time as a hostage.
00:09:16.000In fact, Jim Comey laughed about it later and said how funny it was that he entrapped the National Security Advisor.
00:09:22.000I mean, can you imagine an FBI director, this guy with the godlike comics, Comey, who destroyed the institution of the FBI? You know, Chris Ray, the current director, is a good man.
00:09:32.000I mean, he's tried to do his best to clean up the The culture of corruption that Comey put into place, the partisanship that Comey put into place and McCabe and Strzok and these people that just ruined the institution, but he wasn't able to.
00:09:49.000Comey laughed about getting Mike Flynn to bring charges against Mike Flynn and thought it was funny that they entrapped the National Security Advisor.
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00:11:47.000Cash will be super because he's going to expose the corruption and the partisanship at the top of the FBI. Charlie, we need the FBI to get back to going after crooks and criminals and thugs and cartels and fentanyl pushers.
00:12:02.000Look, we've had 30,000 Chinese agents come over the border over the last two years.
00:12:20.000And instead, we've got FBI agents going to PTA meetings or going to Latin masses where practicing Catholics want to enjoy the Latin mass or going after a Republican presidential candidate and former president.
00:12:33.000Let's get them off the partisanship and going after GOP activists and parents And have them round up the Chinese spies that have come over our border.
00:12:42.000I mean, let's get someone like Kash Patel who's going to restore the luster of the FBI and make it the great institution it once was.
00:13:03.000When the FBI is worried about stupid stuff, not national security, list off what some of the priorities should be as you were the national security adviser.
00:13:11.000Well, look, the number one challenge we have, Charlie, and you know this, and I've talked about it on your show a lot, is the People's Republic of China, the Communist Party, and they've got massive numbers of subpoenage agents here.
00:13:22.000And they're not just spies in the traditional sense.
00:13:25.000Some of them are propagandists and they're people that are trying to influence our politics.
00:13:42.000Number two, we've got a lot of Russians here and we've got to be on top of the Russians and make sure they don't Get the upper hand.
00:13:48.000But what really worries me are all the jihadis, all the terrorists that have come over.
00:13:52.000We know we've got people on the terrorist watch list that have come over our open southern border.
00:13:56.000I mean, that's been a huge domestic national security threat.
00:13:59.000And when you include the Godaways, we don't even know who is here.
00:14:04.000I'm terrified of an attack like October 7th that took place in Israel, taking place here.
00:14:10.000Can you imagine even if you get 10 jihadis who stole deer guns, deer rifles, and handguns out of homes and then descended on a small Midwestern town, the damage that they could do to a town that maybe has one or two sheriffs total population?
00:14:24.000And so the FBI's got to get out there, and they've got to round these people up.
00:14:27.000And that's what the FBI should be doing.
00:14:29.000Leave the PTAs alone, leave Catholic mass alone, and go get the Chinese spies, the Russian spies, and the terrorists who are here.
00:14:38.000We've got known Hezbollah cells in America.
00:14:40.000We've got Iranian agents all over the place.
00:14:42.000There's plenty for the FBI to do that's productive and helps all Americans.
00:14:47.000They don't need to be a branch of the Democrat National Committee.
00:15:14.000One of the things President Trump just said, and I've been talking about this since the hostages were taken in Israel, American hostages and Americans killed in the October 7th attack.
00:15:23.000President Trump came out with a very strong truth social post yesterday saying if the hostages aren't released, you're going to have hell to pay.
00:15:31.000And the American people aren't going to put up with it.
00:15:35.000I mean, this is what people don't understand.
00:15:38.000Peace through strength isn't about building the most aircraft carriers and having the most number of fighter jets.
00:15:43.000It's about what American strength, economic strength, military strength, diplomatic strength, cultural strength, it's what that shows to the rest of the world.
00:15:51.000When America's strong, the world's safe.
00:15:53.000When America's weak, that's very provocative.
00:15:56.000You have events like the Ukraine war, you have the attacks on Israel, you have the attacks on Taiwan and the South China Sea by China.
00:16:04.000But when President Trump was in office, we didn't have these things.
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00:17:35.000Joining us now is a dear friend that I've been meaning to have on for the last week and a half, and he is the life force behind this incredibly important film.
00:17:44.000He wrote the book that has been translated into dozens of languages.
00:17:49.000I'm sure you've heard of this very popular man, Eric Metaxas.
00:20:23.000So that's a very powerful trailer, Eric.
00:20:27.000For those that don't know, why is Bonhoeffer one of the most heroic and underappreciated figures of not just the 20th century, but of Western civilization?
00:20:39.000Yeah, that's exactly what I would say, Charlie.
00:20:42.000I'll tell you, a lot of people have heard of Bonhoeffer.
00:20:46.000A lot of people haven't heard of Bonhoeffer.
00:20:48.000But when I wrote my book, it came out in 2010.
00:20:51.000I had no clue how the story would speak to people.
00:21:19.000And you cannot really fail to be inspired by his story.
00:21:23.000That's to me why it's so powerful is that anybody who comes in contact with it, you will be inspired to be like him and to want to stand up against evil and to put aside your dead religious faith and to live out your faith heroically in the real world.
00:21:38.000That was Bonhoeffer's central message.
00:21:41.000And so, you know, that's all through my book.
00:21:44.000But to see it, to see his story as a film, it's unbelievable.
00:21:49.000I mean, the nutshell version, people say to me, what's it about?
00:21:53.000Well, Bonhoeffer is a German pastor who, because of his faith in Jesus, spoke up for the Jews, spoke against Adolf Hitler, and called the church of his day to stand up politically.
00:22:09.000That's why the whole movie, the whole story is a message for today.
00:22:15.000It's as if, I mean, anybody who watches it, you're going to see present events in the film.
00:22:20.000You're going to say, this is happening now.
00:22:22.000That's what people said when they read my book.
00:22:24.000It's an extraordinary story, specifically because it speaks to where we are now.
00:22:28.000And because you partnered with us in making the film Letter to the American Church, that spells out The Bonhoeffer story is happening now.
00:22:38.000And the question is, will we get it right?
00:22:39.000And, you know, it's one thing if most of us get it right.
00:22:44.000I mean, I think about all the people that they don't know the Bonhoeffer story or they kind of think like, well, you know, I just go to church and we just preach the gospel.
00:23:21.000But the fact that they made a mainstream film, this is not a cheesy Christian film made by people who got laid off from the Hallmark Channel.
00:23:29.000This is a major, major film with people that have worked closely with Mel Gibson, with Clint Eastwood, on and on and on.
00:24:30.000And of course, I gotta mention, the lunatic progressive Christians have written all these articles, like, denouncing the film, denouncing me, denouncing...
00:25:44.000And the Bonhoeffer courage was really won when he was in the resistance and did not control political power.
00:25:52.000And I think these last couple of years under the Biden regime, Bonhoeffer spoke to us in a very personal way to not give up and to rally the church.
00:26:00.000However, if we're honest though, Eric, just because we won an election does not mean that we have a spiritual majority amongst the people of the country.
00:26:10.000Look, Charlie, this is why I love you because what you just said, I'm saying it everywhere I go.
00:26:16.000There are tons and tons and tons of Christians who do not understand that your faith requires you to act heroically, that your faith requires you to put your faith into action.
00:26:28.000And if you don't, I believe God looks at that and says, well then, obviously you don't have faith.
00:26:37.000If you're not acting heroically, if you're not putting your life on the line for beautiful things, for liberty, for truth, if you're not doing that, why do you claim to have faith?
00:26:48.000And there are many people in churches where the pastors are basically, they're not preaching this Bonhoeffer message.
00:26:55.000They're preaching this, you know, it's kind of like this thin gruel.
00:27:01.000It's about sharing the love of Christ.
00:27:02.000The love of Christ is obvious when you lay your life on the line, when you lay your career on the line, when you stick your neck out for truth.
00:27:11.000That's when people see something compelling and beautiful, And they think there is truth.
00:27:16.000There is goodness and beauty in the world.
00:27:18.000And I see it in people who live that out.
00:27:21.000Bonhoeffer, to me, he's the ultimate example of that.
00:27:23.000And so there's so many Christians and so many churches that I would not darken their door.
00:27:29.000I mean, a few years ago, I would have thought, oh yeah, we're on the same page.
00:27:31.000And I realized, no, we're not on the same page.
00:27:34.000And so to me, part of the Bonhoeffer story's power is to wake up people.
00:27:38.000I mean, by the grace of God, Only we won this election.
00:27:43.000By the grace of God, Donald Trump is not dead, and this nation is not dead.
00:27:48.000God saved Donald Trump, and God saved this nation.
00:27:52.000We didn't deserve to be saved, but he saved us for his purposes in history, and he wants Christians to be at the center of that, not to be peripheral.
00:28:03.000If Christians do not step up, and again, I hope this film will inspire people, But if they don't step up, God sometimes does his best work outside the church.
00:28:12.000And he can find people, don't tick all the theological boxes.
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00:30:19.000Eric, we have not had a chance to do a show together since President Trump's victory.
00:30:24.000Can you just reflect on what you've always said?
00:30:27.000You've said this clearly and under the really nasty treatment by the media and some in the church.
00:30:33.000You have said, and I've agreed, that God has his hand on Donald Trump.
00:30:37.000Yeah, first of all, here's what anybody says.
00:30:40.000The fact is that there are people that I know who have said that, and I, you know, I don't say this lightly, like when somebody speaks prophetically or says God said, I take that very seriously, because if God didn't say, then you should shut up.
00:30:57.000But there are people I know who hear from God, and to some extent I do, and you try to see what is God saying.
00:31:07.000Some people kind of hear directly, but I will just say bluntly, Donald Trump, a flawed vessel, a human being like you, like me, has been prepared by God for this moment in history.
00:31:22.000He is outrageously talented and gifted.
00:31:27.000And God has prepared him for this moment, and not just that, but I believe has his hand on him.
00:31:33.000I believe has anointed him to do God's work.
00:31:37.000And so that's not really a religious thing, to do God's work, to do good, to do right, to do...
00:31:42.000I have a keen sense of that, and I have known that for some time.
00:31:48.000And I also know, Charlie, and you know, we're in a war.
00:32:35.000God preserved this nation just as God preserved Donald Trump's life for God's purposes.
00:32:42.000And those of us who claim to care about what's good and true and beautiful, who claim to love America and freedom, We have to do everything we can, but it is a holy privilege that we get to fight.
00:32:58.000It would be like fighting with George Washington for the cause of liberty.
00:33:02.000What a glorious thing that we could fight for such a thing as liberty in America.
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