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00:00:05.000Also, Brendan Carr joins the program to talk about why we should ban pharmaceutical advertising from television.
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00:01:35.000Joining us now is Jeffrey A. Tucker from the Brownstone Institute.
00:01:40.000Jeffrey and I used to run into each other at libertarian conferences about a decade ago, and I've always thought he is wicked smart, very wise, and really understand what's going on.
00:02:06.000In January, February 2020, the Deep State did the unthinkable and abolished the Bill of Rights and established martial law under the guise of virus control.
00:02:16.000Well, I'm very concerned about the next two months and we're seeing some very terrible trends.
00:02:20.000The idea of authorizing war against Russia without congressional mandate, the forgiving of $4.7 billion in debt owed by Ukraine, the quick efforts to approve these judges.
00:02:32.000What you have is a regime that has been totally discredited by the American system, thrown out, bonked on the nose, really repudiated and denounced by the American people.
00:02:44.000And now they're using all their power in a kind of a panic to clean up the messes, you know, with shredder trucks out in front of the Department of Justice, this authorizing of war is next level crazy.
00:03:00.000So I'm very concerned about the next 60 days.
00:03:04.000What's remarkable about this is that the efforts that they're doing right now, all their actions are transparent.
00:03:12.000And everybody understands exactly what is going on.
00:03:15.000We've got a regime in panic, DC's in panic about what's coming.
00:03:19.000And they're doing everything they possibly can to, I mean, what it really means is that they're willing to burn down the house rather than leave it, essentially.
00:03:41.000Charlie, thank you just for saying that.
00:03:44.000I mean, when I first saw all this happening, my mind raced back To a comment made by the economist Gunther Reimann in 1939, writing from Berlin, and he said, I think that these people are going to be willing to go to war and destroy everything about the German nation, everything about society.
00:04:05.000There's nothing they won't do to preserve the party.
00:04:09.000They're going to go down with it and they're willing to torch everything.
00:04:13.000And that's what he said and that's what he predicted in 1939. And those words have been echoing in my head because there's nothing more awful than a corrupt totalitarian would-be totalitarian regime that's been discredited by the people still holding on to power.
00:04:30.000They have 60 days and it's a very dangerous time for America.
00:04:35.000When the founders left this period between the election and the inauguration, the presumption was that the outgoing regime was going to be responsible and adhere to the rule of law.
00:04:49.000And we would have a smooth transition.
00:05:18.000No, but this is really important, though, Jeffrey, is that, and as someone who understands the power of the administrative state over the last 100 years, I mean, you've done more research and more talking about this, speaking about this, is that we're not being governed by a president anymore.
00:05:33.000We have veered off in the last couple decades.
00:05:35.000We are now being governed by this super elite of a couple hundred experts, and that is even more dangerous than You know, a quote-unquote dictator in some ways.
00:06:34.000And I began to realize this more and more.
00:06:37.000We've all learned so much about government over the last years.
00:06:41.000But I remember there was this moment where Fauci was being grilled by somebody in Congress about the approval of these shots that caused several officials of the FDA over vaccine safety to resign.
00:06:53.000And they said, you know, why did you approve that?
00:06:55.000And he said, well, I didn't approve that.
00:06:58.000This committee over here at FDA. And they said, well, why did that committee approve?
00:07:01.000He said, well, I mean, well, they didn't really approve it.
00:07:04.000All they did was ratify the decisions by another committee in the CDC. And then you ask that committee, and it's like, oh, well, was that another guy?
00:07:30.000The founders did not set up the government to be so detached from the people this way.
00:07:36.000Their specific plan was that the people would rule in America through their elected representatives.
00:07:43.000They would take responsibility for their decisions.
00:07:45.000And if they were the wrong ones, they'd get voted out of office.
00:07:47.000But these bureaucrats who are making the decisions behind the scenes are nameless.
00:07:53.000They bear no responsibility for the consequences of their decision and you can't even get rid of them according to the rules of the civil service.
00:08:02.000This is un-American and this is why so many people are outraged and clamoring, screaming, yelling, demanding dramatic changes immediately.
00:08:19.000At least, you know, Team Trump is going to do everything they possibly can to achieve it.
00:08:25.000What worries me are the next 60 days because DC is in a total Panic right now.
00:08:34.000They freaked out about Schedule F, you remember, in October of 2020, which was just a, it was nothing other than a, hey, what do you guys do around here?
00:08:46.000If you're doing policy and you're not And you're not really supposed to be doing that.
00:08:51.000You know, you're going to be reclassified as an employee who can be terminated, maybe.
00:10:27.000I could probably say it was nothing like this in Reagan's first term.
00:10:29.000I mean, this is a definite public consensus and a real fever pitch for reform.
00:10:35.000But now you've got Washington in a total freak-out mode.
00:10:38.000We've got 60 days between now and then.
00:10:41.000It's going to be a tug-of-war between the totalitarians on one hand and the reformers and the freedom lovers on the other.
00:10:48.000It's an epic battle, and it's going to take us right up to the inauguration.
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00:11:51.000That is patriotmobile.com slash charlie or call 972-PATRIOT. Jeffrey, let's go deeper into the administrative state.
00:11:59.000The idea that there is not accountability is so smart because we don't know who actually does the action.
00:12:05.000And instead, it is this tyranny of a quasi-collective where it's 10 or 12 people in a room.
00:12:13.000Can you build that out more for the audience?
00:12:15.000Because it almost makes accountability impossible if you don't know who is responsible.
00:12:22.000Well, everybody who's worked for a large company knows the way this works.
00:12:26.000If somebody suggests a committee, they'd say, oh, we're all going to get that in there and brainstorm.
00:12:30.000What that really means is that somebody has some item, an agenda item that they want to shove through, but they don't want to take responsibility for it.
00:12:38.000They want to make it mushy and make the decision-making crowd-based so that if something goes wrong, they don't have to take responsibility for it.
00:12:46.000And it's the same thing true in science.
00:12:49.000I was thinking about this the other day.
00:12:50.000John Ian Eadies, a great scientist at Stanford University, said you can always tell a piece of fake science because it's signed by more than three authors, right?
00:12:59.000And we've seen this over the COVID period, right?
00:13:01.000Lots of huge studies coming out, and it has 18 authors, right?
00:13:14.000Nobody seems to take responsibility for the fake science.
00:13:17.000And he's done a lot of research in fake science and he discovers that it's more than likely the case that it's fake if it's signed by more than three authors because if you diffuse the responsibility that broad, Then nobody's actually doing the work.
00:13:31.000There's some bad guy hiding somewhere.
00:14:09.000It was the COVID period that exposed it all.
00:14:11.000You know, this sort of corrupt relationship between agencies and their committees and corporations with their lobbyists and then their media outlets and this whole sort of what people are calling the blob You know, hard at work, and they've been able to get away with it.
00:14:27.000And finally, America just woke up and said, wait, who's running this country?
00:14:32.000You know, what is the law and what isn't?
00:14:52.000Let's get back to the system the founders established, where the people are in charge through their electric representatives, and somebody's going to be held accountable for what kind of system we're running.
00:15:03.000I don't want to live in a regime over which I have absolutely zero control, which is really where we are right now with 420 some odd agencies and two to three million bureaucrats that nobody knows anything about that can't be fired.
00:15:19.000So Trump comes to Washington with an excellent cabinet picks with a mandate to clean up the system and do something about it and get us back to a system whereby we have actual accountability in government.
00:15:35.000And that's what they're planning to do.
00:15:36.000But like I said, my worry is that we have 60 days between now and then.
00:15:40.000What's coming to Washington is a revolution like we've never seen.
00:16:10.000However, the House Republicans need to get more involved with war oversight powers right now.
00:16:16.000I mean, they have a mandate from the American people.
00:16:19.000We're not just going to sit idly by and allow Joe Biden to sleepwalk us into World War III, which, by the way, would act as a diversion device against that coming revolution.
00:18:37.000And obviously, first of all, thank you so much to you and to the entire movement you've built.
00:18:41.000I mean, the listeners here probably don't need me to say that, but you have helped to fundamentally reshape not just the conservative movement, but now Washington, D.C. itself.
00:18:53.000And it's time for people to come into the administration, President Trump's administration, that are fully 100% aligned, that are on board.
00:19:00.000And that are going to deliver on all of these ideas that you have championed, that President Trump has championed.
00:19:40.000And the FCC oversees everything from the wireless industry to the broadcast media industry.
00:19:45.000We are tasked with ending the digital divide, extending broadband to rural America, efforts of which have stalled drastically under the Biden-Harris administration.
00:19:55.000We're charged with a national security docket.
00:19:57.000We've taken action on things like Huawei and ZTE at the hardware And for me, you know, first steps as President Trump has designated me as chair is get with his team and make sure that there's, you know, 100% understanding what his agenda is.
00:20:12.000After all, he's the one that's been elected at the end of the day.
00:20:15.000And for starters, for me, it's a couple things.
00:20:17.000One, it's going to be We absolutely have to smash the censorship cartel.
00:20:25.000There's going to be a role for the FCC there, for sure.
00:20:27.000We're going to need other agencies and Congress's help as well.
00:20:30.000The second piece is taking a look at the broadcast media industry.
00:21:09.000We're going to unleash private sector builds.
00:21:11.000We're going to get the space economy going.
00:21:13.000Whether it's Elon Musk, Starlink, or other providers, they've been completely hamstrung by the government the last four years.
00:21:19.000They've succeeded nonetheless, but we're going to let the private sector cook, and it's going to be really good for the economy and for jobs.
00:22:51.000Look, if I ever needed to know how to throw a tight spiral through a tire swing or figure out a good location to put a bathtub overlooking a cliff, then those pharma ads would probably be helpful.
00:23:04.000My own personal view is, look, this is a longer discussion, but I think we're way too medicated in this country, and there's precedent for doing exactly what you're talking about.
00:23:13.0001970, President Nixon signed a law to ban cigarette advertising.
00:24:08.000You know, the process that's been used before has been a two-step process, which was, in that context, it was a law passed by Congress that sort of made those types of advertisements effectively illegal on broadcast medium.
00:24:21.000And then the FCC can step in based on that and take action.
00:24:25.000My guess is we'll probably need some sort of two-step.
00:24:27.000Maybe that first step could come from An HHS determination rather than from Congress itself.
00:24:32.000But I think it would require that type of two-step process.
00:24:49.000Brendan, what are some of the other big battles that you are having at the FCC to maintain freedom of speech, But also make sure that we're not living under a permanent corporate oligarchy.
00:25:01.000Yeah, I mean, the tech censorship has got to be a top priority here.
00:25:04.000I wrote a letter about a week ago to the CEOs of some of the largest tech companies, Google, Apple, Microsoft, Meta.
00:25:13.000And I made a lot of points there, but the narrow point was about this outfit called NewsGuard.
00:25:18.000I can't remember how much you've dealt with them before, but they hold themselves out as the Internet's fact checker and sort of the arbiter of truth, which is – it'd be funny if it weren't so damaging.
00:25:28.000But remember, NewsGuard has on their board of advisors at least one person that signed onto the Hunter Biden laptop story that itself spread a consequential set of misinformation stories.
00:25:42.000The reporting is that they rate CCP propaganda as more reliable than U.S. publications.
00:25:49.000They're under investigation right now by House committees for impact on free speech, and the list goes on and on.
00:25:54.000And so what I said to these tech companies is, look, you've enjoyed these special protections, Section 230, but under the statute, 230 only applies if you are operating as relevant here in good faith.
00:26:12.000So my question for them is, how can you continue to rely on this outfit called NewsGuard for content moderation or otherwise When they're clearly engaged in such concerning conduct and spreading of misinformation.
00:26:25.000So I want them to be clear that if they keep relying on NewsGuard for anything, they are really putting their Section 230 liability protections at risk.
00:26:32.000And I've asked for responses by them in the next couple of weeks.
00:26:35.000First of all, just so I can understand all of the webs in which NewsGuard is involved.
00:26:39.000Whether it's Search or App Store, it's AI. I mean, Microsoft has some sort of deep AI relationship with NewsGuard.
00:26:46.000And again, it's the tip of the iceberg, but it's a piece of this broader censorship cartel.
00:26:51.000Some of it is individual decisions that Facebook and others have made, but it's more than that.
00:26:55.000It's advertising agencies, it's marketing agencies, it's European government outfits.
00:27:00.000So we're going to do some pinpricks, but at the same time, we've got to try to get this whole thing Root and branch because free speech is just the cornerstone of democracy.
00:27:08.000We've seen this massive surge in censorship.
00:27:12.000And for people that are going to try to censor the rights of everyday Americans, I'm going to stand in the way.
00:27:37.000We're going to get that entire program turned around.
00:27:40.000Some money has been spent, but it's all been on government jobs up to now.
00:27:43.000But the vast majority of the $40 billion is still there.
00:27:45.000I met just yesterday here at the FCC. With a large group of broadband builders and telecom crews, and they were saying, look, we got totally hung out to dry by the Biden-Harris administration on this.
00:27:57.000We invested millions and millions of our own capital in construction equipment, getting ready to go, this $42 billion, and it's just been sitting there.
00:28:05.000And they're paying huge interest rates for the money they had to take out to make that purchase.
00:28:10.000And I've told them, we're going to get this sorted out.
00:28:13.000But we're going to get it sorted out We're going to get people connected, and I'm hoping we can do it in a way that's tech neutral so that, you know, whether it's Kuiper from Amazon coming online soon or Starlink, that they get to play a role here because that's how you quickly and efficiently connect people.
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00:30:48.000This is a good Samaritan who restrained this lunatic in a subway, and he is now facing murder charges for being a good Samaritan.
00:30:58.000Whoever ends up being Attorney General under Donald Trump, we have to find ways and we have to be creative to hold New York accountable if they convict him.
00:32:00.000So they're putting Daniel Penny on a show trial.
00:32:02.000Meanwhile, there are guys that just roam throughout New York City and stab people, get released, stab people, get released.
00:32:10.000Bottom line is that alpha men are a threat to the new world order.
00:32:15.000Daniel Penny and the Daniel Penny story is one of the most important things happening in the country that nobody is focused on right now.
00:32:22.000This should get Kyle Rittenhouse-style attention.
00:32:26.000And in fact, we need to spend more time.
00:32:27.000Let's get a guest on for Daniel Penny tomorrow.
00:32:30.000I know there's so much happening with transition, so much happening with Donald Trump.
00:32:33.000I mean, I'm right there in the middle of it.
00:32:35.000But the Daniel Penny is the last gasp of a dying, illegitimate, toxically feminine regime that sees Daniel Penny as a white, straight, Christian alpha male who stood up against a lunatic in a subway and should go to jail for that.
00:32:52.000We know that there will be outposts of resistance in New York City, LA, and Boston.
00:33:24.000This is why we need Matt Gaetz as Attorney General to balance the system of justice, in my opinion.
00:33:29.000But Steve Bannon is going to go up against a federal trial in February, not federal trial, I'm sorry, state trial in February for this ridiculous, we build the wall stuff.
00:33:38.000They're going to try to put Steve Bannon in state prison.
00:33:42.000Same Alvin Bragg junta that is going after Daniel Penny.
00:33:47.000The same junta that went after Donald Trump.
00:33:52.000This lawfare is not stopping, and the Daniel Penny situation is a metaphor.
00:33:57.000It is a metaphor for a sickness that we have in our society that we are shedding, by the way.
00:34:58.000For friends that I have in New York, my advice to them is, if a woman is being harassed and a woman is being hit by a homeless man, don't do anything.