In this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, host Audrey and host Audrey discuss the controversial topic of when life begins for a pregnant woman. Audrey and Charlie discuss their personal views on the matter and give their thoughts on the late-stage abortion debate. If a mother's life is at risk, should she be allowed to keep her baby or should it be delivered via cesarean section? Is it better to keep the baby in the mother or should she try to deliver the baby at a later stage of pregnancy? What is the best type of birth control for pregnant women? Is there a difference between a birth control pill and a C-section birth? Does it matter if the baby is still alive at that point in pregnancy or if it's stillborn? Should the mother live or should the baby be delivered at the later stages of pregnancy, or is there another birth control option? Are there any exceptions to the law regarding late-term abortions? Do you agree with Audrey and Audrey's views on this topic? Or do you disagree with them? Listen in to find out what they think! Charlie and Audrey discuss their thoughts and opinions on the topic. Learn how you can protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investments, a company that specializes in gold and other precious metals. That's where I buy all of my gold! Go to noblegoldinvestments.co/TheCharlieKirkShow.co and get 20% off your first order of a piece of gold and I'll send you all of your brokerage account! to receive 20% of your first month of the month! FREE PRICING HERE! Learn more about Noble Gold Investing with me on the show! I'll be giving you access to all the best deals on the best gold and precious metals you can get anywhere else in the world! Thank you, I'm giving you a discount code: TheCharlie Kirk Show! Charlie Kirk and all of the gold I can get you a chance to receive 5% off of the show, plus an extra $5,000 at The Charlie Kirk is giving you $5 or $10 or $20 or $50, and you get $50 or $25 or $55 or $75,000 in the show gets you an ad discount when you sign up to receive $25,000 gets you a VIP discount, and I can receive $75 or $100,000 is a maximum of $150,000 and I get a VIP offer!
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00:01:55.000How tall you are, your eye color, your weight disparity, your tastes, your likes, your dislikes were all put into place at that moment of conception.
00:02:13.000How tall you are right now or how tall you could be absent medical intervention, your eye color, your skin color, your hair color was all decided at that moment.
00:02:21.000So basically, the blueprint for your life came into being at that moment.
00:02:28.000And what distinguishes you from your mother is that you have two separate forms of DNA. So I believe you should be able to do what you want with your body, and I believe that everybody should be able to not be interfered with in their body.
00:02:39.000Therefore, if it's not your DNA, it's not your choice.
00:03:17.000According to Planned Parenthood's own website, up until recently, it was a distinct and separate medical procedure, not called an abortion.
00:03:24.000That's Planned Parenthood's own website for 30 years.
00:03:26.000And so, yes, if a mother's life is at risk, that is a separate medical procedure.
00:06:27.000I think Down Syndrome kids are a gift from the Lord and some of the most happy, joyful kids that should not be cast aside and terminated just because you get a blood test that you don't like.
00:06:37.000Thank you very much for your question.
00:07:49.000I think that the system for trans people to get hormonal therapy is pretty messed up because there's a lot of people who lie their way through therapy and then they end up regretting it in the future.
00:08:05.000Can we agree and have common ground maybe that minors should not be able to receive those drugs?
00:08:33.000The therapy, though, that involves drugs or surgery should be reserved to adults.
00:08:37.000I think hormonal blockers should be legal no matter what.
00:08:43.000Hormonal therapy, I think it's much more debatable.
00:08:49.000My position is that we should not give children something when they might be in a phase that could be irreversibly damaging to them.
00:08:58.000If a kid is in a certain phase, especially a young lady, because 75% of all trans youth that receive hormonal therapy are young women, that we should probably say, hey, this is more of a brain issue than a body issue, and let's try to do counseling, let's try to do cognitive behavioral therapy, not try to say that we're going to butcher you irreversibly.
00:09:18.000Therapy needs to be much more accessible.
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00:11:47.000There's disparities in how people were raised.
00:11:49.000And those are because of systems that Americans have put into place through policy.
00:11:53.000And that I think we need to be focusing on the future of America rather than going back in time where oppression was even more rampant than it is today.
00:12:01.000We still have a lot to fix, but I just don't see how we can go back and say that it was a perfect America when obviously it wasn't.
00:12:11.000No one says it's perfect, but let me ask you a question.
00:14:48.000So let me just be clear, though, just that according to Brookings Institution, which is a super left-wing Organization says that if you have a father around, you're less likely to go to jail, less likely to commit crimes, more likely to have raising wages.
00:16:27.000No, you said people get discriminated against their skin color, and there is active discrimination against white people in this country far more than black Americans.
00:17:28.000But, okay, it's a great book called Discrimination and Disparities, where he argues that it is an immature view to act, wow, there's a disparity, it must be racism.
00:17:36.000There are hundreds of other contributing factors.
00:17:42.000So firstborn privilege is that if you are the firstborn kid, you're more likely to have a higher income, more likely to gain wealth, less likely to go to prison just because you got more attention from your family.
00:18:12.000And the biggest of which is when you have kids that are being raised without dads, you're setting them up on a course for permanent failure.
00:18:20.000And I agree, like, there's a whole array of issues, but I do think racism is an issue that we need to address and shouldn't be covered up by other issues.
00:18:30.000Give me an example of racism in America that is macro, not micro.
00:18:36.000I mean, you're going over the same endless circle.
00:18:41.000Give me a macro example of racism that affects all people.
00:18:45.000Not just one person being a jerk to another.
00:20:25.000Board of Education banned segregation.
00:20:28.000My school did not complete the fully integrated status until like 2016.
00:20:36.000So the dragging feet of our systems, like, that's an example of it, because that keeps perpetuating these problems that, sure, don't only have to do with racism, but racism is a part.
00:23:50.000So why is it that graduation rates are lower for black individuals?
00:23:54.000Because dads aren't around putting pressure on the same school.
00:23:56.000And, unfortunately, because affirmative action, unfortunately, more and more black individuals are going to colleges that they're not qualified for.
00:24:03.000Because the criteria is lowered for them.
00:24:06.000And so then you get lower graduation rates.
00:26:30.000I am unaffiliated, but I am a Christian who believes in the right to an abortion.
00:26:35.000And a lot of the things that you were talking about with her, I really had a lot of answers for that.
00:26:40.000So, the reason I actually wrote this down on a notebook, of course, I was prepared.
00:26:45.000So, the reason why I believe the right to an abortion, why, just anyone, if you feel that's what you need to do, then you should do it, because Matthew 7, 1 says, do not judge or you too will be judged.
00:26:57.000Although Jesus does tell us to tell people, do not sin, it's not our place to judge them, you know?
00:27:02.000And then another thing that I wanted to bring up, this is crazy, but also the time, I just really wanna know why you feel that abortion should be illegal.
00:27:13.000Do you think murder should be illegal?
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00:30:56.000Why I believe that abortion should be legal is because of instances like rape and incest, but I already know that your belief on that because you've already stated that if your daughter were to be raped at 10 years old, you would make her give birth to the baby.
00:31:07.000Well, the baby would be delivered, and let me tell you why.
00:31:09.000But first of all, let me try to find common ground.
00:31:12.000If I say we will make rape and incest abortions legal and get rid of all the other abortions, would you agree with that?
00:31:20.000If I say that we will allow abortions to continue for rape and incest life of the mother, but all other abortions should be illegal, which is 99.4% of the time, can we make those 99% of abortions illegal?
00:31:47.000So you're actually not that pro-choice, actually.
00:31:49.000But I am because I feel like there's no way to kind of divide the basis of what abortion is being used as birth control and what abortion is being used.
00:33:41.000For example, if a single mom has two kids, and all of a sudden she loses her job, and one of the kids is super annoying and has a learning disability, should she be able to murder that kid?
00:34:45.000There's no difference in the physical appearance of it, but the complete difference is the mental toll that it would take on the mother and the person who has to carry the baby for nine months.
00:35:40.000But again, the issue is that there is a demand of families that want the babies.
00:35:46.000Okay, and my last question that you had started to answer, but you didn't answer what you said you were going to, was why, if your daughter were to be impregnated by rape, why would you force her to have the baby?
00:35:57.000Well, first of all, because we don't murder in our family.
00:36:01.000No, but at the same time, I've done a little bit of research, and I just wanted to let you know that the chance of a 10-year-old surviving giving birth, her and her baby, is below 10%.
00:36:10.000So in reality, if you want your child to have a baby at 10 years old...
00:36:18.000Okay, again, to be very clear, I said if there was no issue with the mother's health.
00:36:24.000And understand, this is an extreme, hyper-personal example that someone used.
00:36:29.000And I'm happy to own it, but let's just be clear.
00:36:33.000Why is that example getting people so fired up?
00:36:36.000Because it's easy to say that you can murder a baby if it's small and that it's just a quote-unquote a clump of cells.
00:36:42.000No, I think that one instance got people so fired up because the age of your daughter and just because of the likelihood that she would survive and the baby would survive.
00:36:50.000No, my answer was that if there were no medical complications.
00:36:53.000You don't even remember the full answer.
00:37:18.000Because with age comes medical issues with birth.
00:37:21.000I said with no other medical issues, though, so you have to understand the preface there.
00:37:24.000I want to understand, though, maybe you can help me understand, why the women of America are so enthusiastic about the right to be able to kill preborn babies.