On this episode of The CharlieKirk Show, host Andrew Yang is joined by his good friend and former Democratic presidential candidate, Andrew Yang. The guys discuss how the Democratic Party failed to connect with young voters in 2016 and how they were able to flip the vote to Donald Trump. They also discuss the impact of TikTok and the impact it had on the Democratic nomination and why the party should have been worried about it. Finally, the guys talk about why Joe Biden won the primary and why he should have won the election in 2016. Click here to listen to the full episode and share it with your friends and family. Tweet me and let us know what you thought of this episode! Timestamps: 4:00 - How did Biden win the primary? 6:30 - Why Biden did so well among young voters 7:15 - How much money did Biden actually have to spend to win 8:20 - What happened with the young vote? 9:00 11:40 - How Biden won with young women 13:30 16:40 17:10 - What did Biden did with young men? 18:10 19:15 21:20 22:00 -- How did Hillary Clinton win with young white voters? 23:30 -- What's next for the Democrats? 26:00 | What's the next step for the Dems? 27:30 | What s next for Biden's campaign? 29:00 // 32: What s going to happen with young people? 35: How will the Democrats in 2020? 32:10 | How will Biden's path to victory? 36:30 // 33: What can we learn from this election? 37:00 + 33:00 & 35:00 @ what s next? 39:00 #1 40:00 What s the best way to win the 2020 election 44:00 Is Biden s path to 2020 45:00 And so much more? 47: Is Biden going to win in 2020 ? 46:00 Can we have a chance to take back the White House? 41: Is there any chance that Biden s chance of winning in 2020 with the 2020 primary & so on? & much more! , , 41:30 + 42:30, 47, 45, 47
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00:03:53.000Put bluntly, her performance among young voters was an abject disaster for Democrats and a troubling omen for the party's political future.
00:04:02.000The youth gender gap that was supposed to favor Harris with an army of young women showing up under the battle flag of abortion never materialized.
00:04:12.000Yes, Harris won young women by 20 points, but she was supposed to do even better.
00:04:16.000The gold standard Harvard Youth Poll had her winning those women by 30 points just a few weeks ago.
00:04:22.000Meanwhile, Donald Trump won young men by 10 points, flipping them from Biden.
00:04:27.000And for the first time in decades, Republicans won young white voters outright.
00:04:35.000I mean, what's your take on that, Blake?
00:04:39.000It's just, it's, I don't even, like, know where to begin in terms of how badly the party allowed themselves to be led astray, where they spent years basically constantly expanding the group of people that you had to, like, hate.
00:04:58.000They just always level up, so they're going to bash people.
00:05:02.000They're going to bash you for being white.
00:05:04.000We're probably going to get people like these think pieces on like Hispanic men and how they're like too toxically masculine to be trusted.
00:05:12.000And what did Joy Reid do last night when the results didn't look good?
00:05:16.000She started doing this sickening bit on, oh, white women in America decided to vote on race instead of gender.
00:05:27.000And I think the most important narrative to take away from last night is the country revolted against this sick hegemony that you need to obsess about these identity categories and that's all that matters.
00:05:40.000Again, I'm so tired I'm not thinking as crisply as I should, but they made this an unhappy country.
00:09:46.000The reason why they opposed Trump so much is because he wanted to come here and do an anti-illegal immigration rally, which was the first thing.
00:09:52.000And they saw that that worldview, being able to seep in, was going to be uber destructive to the future of what they could control.
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00:10:52.000In the next few days, I'm going to be writing a whole piece on how Gen Z has powered so much of the outcome.
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00:17:08.000And by the way, for those abortion activists that were praying outside of the clinics, the pro-life activists, I mean, they get a pardon, right?
00:17:14.000I mean, these January 6th people that are still in pretrial detention, we've got to get that all sorted out, right?
00:17:18.000And again, if they assault the police officers, I think they've got to serve time if they were violent.
00:17:22.000But there are a lot of people that weren't.
00:19:50.000I really am looking forward to, we'll get more of these, but the post-mortems by people on the left really just digging into what a disaster it was.
00:20:02.000There's this far-left columnist named Sam Chris.
00:22:22.000By the way, they were going full dark Soviet.
00:22:25.000And what's so funny is, sometimes I think, they could have prevented all of this, but they couldn't help themselves if they hadn't charged Donald Trump with those crimes.
00:23:26.000And they could lay out how Biden was a disaster on the economy, how Biden was a disaster on speech, why they thought this election was so important.
00:23:37.000And I think we were so used to, oh, they're just going to try to buy the election.
00:24:10.000I want people who are in jail that shouldn't be in jail to get out of jail.
00:24:13.000That's what I'm going to Mar-a-Lago for this weekend.
00:24:14.000I'm going to Mar-a-Lago this weekend because people that went and peacefully protested in their capital having to go through hell, and I want pardons for them.
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00:28:41.000We've been working towards this moment for the last decade.
00:28:46.000All the toil, all the sweat equity, all the knocking on doors and voter registration, it finally has culminated to...
00:28:57.000Yesterday, we made history, and we, for the time being, have saved our country.
00:29:02.000And just, you know, I do want people to know, voter registration does make an impact, does matter.
00:29:10.000And flipping counties like Bucks County, as silly as that sounded to so many, and people were saying, you know, oh, Scott, oh, Charlie, you can't make a difference by registering voters.
00:31:49.000It was confusion over Berks versus Bucks, and you hit the nail on the head.
00:31:55.000So Berks County is one that has flipped to a plurality of registered Republicans since 2020, and that has our Dominican community and our Puerto Ricans.
00:32:06.000And I'll tell you, we've made a concerted effort, and we even had signs made with early vote action listening to the community that said, Bariquas con Trump and Dominicans for Trump.
00:32:18.000And if you go to some of these bodegas, you'll see signs now everywhere plastered over Berks County.
00:32:24.000And so the interesting thing is, despite the left trying to pander and placate and make a big deal over the Madison Square Garden, I can tell you comfortably that President Trump not only expanded his margin of victory in Berks County, but Kamala's share of the vote actually decreased from what Joe Biden got in 2020.
00:32:49.000And so no amount of pandering from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez could ever negate the hard work of the grassroots and the patriots in Berks County that delivered for Donald Trump.
00:33:02.000Scott, what are the greatest lessons that you take away from this cycle?
00:33:07.000Just can you give the audience some detail of how hard you pushed yourself and what are the lessons that you take away from this?
00:33:15.000I think a doggedness, a determination that is just unbridled and untethered is something that I'll live with, that even when people tell you that you can't or you won't, never listen to the naysayers.
00:33:46.000I mean, these are all people that never gave up.
00:33:49.000And furthermore, I just want to give a shout out to some members of our team, Charlie.
00:33:54.000There's a young man named Hagan Who lived in Washington State.
00:33:58.000He drove in his car from Washington to Pennsylvania to move here just to vote for Donald Trump.
00:34:06.000And we were so inspired by him that we hired him on the team.
00:34:12.000And his work helped to flood Erie County from blue to red.
00:34:15.000And there's another young man, his name is Will, a veteran, a father from Missouri.
00:34:20.000He moved to Pennsylvania just to help southwest Allegheny County.
00:34:25.000And we were able to deliver 40 percent of that county for Donald Trump in less because we have so many amazing members of our team.
00:34:33.000There's a woman named Tricia who she's never had to work and she chose to be a part of the early vote action family and especially courting the Amish vote.
00:34:45.000And I can tell you from the numbers that Donald Trump in this cycle, he improved in Lancaster and Juniata and Mifflin and Huntington and Indiana in Armstrong on all Amish centric counties.
00:34:58.000And it's because of people like Hagan, like Will, like Tricia that saw this election that it required urgency in order to win.
00:35:08.000And it was really these people on the team that their heart translated into real tangible results.
00:35:14.000And we were able to deliver Pennsylvania.
00:35:16.000And so to my team, if you're watching this right now, I'm forever grateful for the work that you have done this cycle.
00:35:47.000It's just, how do we scale this, Scott?
00:35:51.000Well, A, I want people to know that we're not stopping for a gosh darn second.
00:35:57.000Sure, we'll probably take, you know, 48 hours to take a little victory lap.
00:36:02.000But the fight begins towards 2026, we go straight for the governorship.
00:36:08.0002028, we already work towards winning the presidency again in four years.
00:36:12.000And we continue to do it in an inspirational way where we are putting out so much positivity and good, strong work ethic that we're going to draw good people to want to work with us.
00:36:25.000And furthermore, I think the most important thing that we did differently this year, Charlie, is I want to say thank you to Turning Point Action and Tyler Boyer and Noah Formica.
00:36:35.000I want to say thank you to the PHAs with Cliff Maloney.
00:36:38.000I want to say thank you to Jenny Beth Martin with the Tea Party Patriots.
00:36:42.000One thing that I think when the story is written about 2024 that we did differently than any other cycle is everybody played together.
00:37:04.000Scott, I got a question for you, and I'm not here to really, you know, litigate the past here, but it was well documented that, you know, you didn't really get a call from Ronna McDaniel, and you wanted one.
00:37:17.000And then, you know, we took a lot of grief for being part of the group that got her out at the RNC, and then there was a new leadership at the RNC. How much of an impact did that have, do you think, on the grassroots, Scott?
00:37:37.000Guys, we saw the impact of a change of leadership in real time.
00:37:44.000Even with things like Bucks County, where because we flipped it, the Democrats were trying to disenfranchise our voters from voting.
00:37:55.000And because Chairman Michael Whatley, RNC Chair and Co-Chair Laura Trump, We're litigious and immediately sued and immediately got a lawsuit.
00:38:05.000They were able to extend three additional days of in-person voting in Bucks County.
00:38:11.000And I'll tell you, that's where then the grassroots organizations like Turning Point Action, Early Vote Action come in.
00:38:18.000And I'll tell you, we used every hour of those three additional days to And it translated into results like, for example, we won Bucks County, a county that we now have a plurality of registered Republicans.
00:38:33.000And this county, this is the first time that a Republican has won Bucks County since 1988.
00:44:45.000If the left is honest, they'll have to reckon with that, that in 2020, they ignited a legit cultural revolution, and it was terrifying to live through.
00:45:39.000They bragged about putting Sam Brinton in a position of authority, and then the dude started stealing everyone's luggage.
00:45:47.000And there's a line I think Voltaire, the French writer, I don't know if he actually said it, but allegedly he did, where he said, you know, I pray to God to make my enemies ridiculous.
00:50:18.000They don't want a black woman as President of the United States.
00:50:21.000You know, the Democratic Party, I've always found when you're sitting around talking, they love to just sort of Balkanize everybody into these separate groups and say, oh, white people don't like women and black people.
00:50:38.000It is time for the Democrats to say, okay, and you and I have talked about this before, a lot of Hispanic voters have problems with black candidates.
00:53:32.000But if you think that right now is the time to tell me that you don't believe in astrology, who gives a f*** about astrology right now, dude?
00:53:42.000Who literally f***ing cares about that?
00:53:45.000That is like the least of our f***ing worries.
00:55:18.000We knew that we were fighting for something, I want to say, virtuous.
00:55:22.000It would have been very easy for us to give up.
00:55:24.000And I think also the true realization that you can confront the left in venues that we heard really, at least since the Obama years, were just innately left-wing.
00:56:30.000They know that 90% of permanent change comes from the mind and they work on eliminating the reason you gain this weight in the first place.
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00:59:04.000And I mean, if you listen to Mark Halperin, uh, He's essentially a once-in-a-generation political leader.
00:59:11.000We hope that that's not true on our side.
00:59:15.000But you take that and the hero's journey, the arc that he's been on, from media mogul and developer, darling of the media, to then the pariah of the media, 95 to 5 negative coverage.
00:59:30.000Two impeachments, multiple indictments facing 700 years, and he has bested every single one of his enemies.
00:59:40.000Really, a big part of it is that the grassroots...
01:03:03.000They just thought they couldn't go with anyone else.
01:03:05.000You have a person whose job is to be the replacement if the president is gone, and she was in that job.
01:03:11.000And they thought if we try to rush a primary, it will alienate our black women voters who will think we're throwing out this person who's not for a white guy.
01:03:21.000I think their ideology actually imprisoned them to some extent.
01:03:27.000They felt there are rules that we as Democrats can't break, and it locked them into nominating someone who was not a good candidate.
01:03:37.000What you just said is a really phenomenal point, because before Donald Trump came into our lives as a political figure, there were things I felt like I couldn't say about, specifically, immigration.
01:03:53.000He gave us permission to be loud and proud against the fact that, no, I don't want my country to be overrun by people that didn't grow up here.
01:04:24.000And he basically gave us permission to cut the shackles to these really dumb ideas that weren't winners, that basically ensured that we were going to be in a permanent minority or never win the popular vote again, and gave us this populist boost that turns out is really popular.
01:04:43.000I have a friend who is not American, lives in Europe, and is on the left politically, and I was explaining to him why I was voting for Trump and why I thought Trump was important.
01:04:54.000And I was actually saying, one of the most important things about Trump is he is based.
01:04:59.000A lot of people don't really get what it means.
01:05:01.000But if you dig down into the slang, to be based means basically you're doing your own thing and you don't let attacks from other people move you off your position.
01:06:05.000Whatever you think of his position on it.
01:06:07.000He was by far the most steadfast on just arguing it, where you would have people who would superficially be more pro-life than Trump, but they were scared to talk about it.
01:06:16.000They wouldn't say, oh, Democrats love radical positions.
01:09:09.000People remember the Trump years better because they were better.
01:09:12.000Kamala Harris will destroy this country, bring us closer to World War III, allow 30 million illegal people into the country, and bring us to a Great Depression.
01:09:19.000Donald Trump will restore the American dream for your generation.
01:09:23.000When I decide, just in case, can I have a hat?
01:13:13.000A comment I've seen is, if you have any fretting about 2020, just the fact that you won this big, this way, delegitimizes it for so many people already.
01:13:21.000I do think that there needs to be a serious conversation in this country about the way we do elections.
01:13:27.000Some of the states are so backwards, and there is so much dirt.
01:13:32.000You could do that as a Florida initiative.
01:13:36.000Say, we'll give you another $500 million in highway funding if you do these Florida-style things.
01:13:41.000But honestly, the Attorney General of the United States should come in super hard against BLM, Antifa, and the cartels that are trafficked, and all the NGOs on the border that are breaking international law.
01:15:40.000And by the way, it wins even in California when the voters are presented with that.
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01:17:23.000Delta between what they expect based on campaigning and his actual voting record is one of the largest in the Senate.
01:17:29.000So by the way, James Woods, who is very rarely to do this, just sent out a tweet.
01:17:35.000President Trump's virtue last night was the product of many things, not the least of which was his astonishing energy.
01:17:39.000One person must be recognized as Charlie Kirk, whose organization managed to break the woke stranglehold on college campuses and deliver the youth vote.
01:18:37.000Remember after 2016 where Paul Ryan gets up and he goes, he freaking hated Trump the whole time, and he gets up and he goes, you got to give him credit, he had coattails.
01:18:47.000And it's like, well, these are amazing numbers.
01:18:49.000I'm going to read through these on the New York Times where they have subtypes of counties.
01:18:54.000And so in counties that Trump won by more than 20 points in 2020, in 2020, those had moved one point to the left relative to 2016.
01:19:03.000They just moved 2.8 points to the right.
01:19:06.000But places where Biden won by more than 20 points four years ago, those moved four points to the right.
01:19:12.000He got five points better in urban areas, four points better in suburban areas.
01:19:16.000He got nine and a half points better in counties that are over 25% Hispanic in the U.S. He got four points better in counties that are over 50% college educated.
01:23:00.000But even if Teddy Roosevelt did do it, they did try to kill Teddy Roosevelt, but they didn't try to imprison him, destroy his family, destroy his businesses, destroy his supporters, throw his supporters in jail, weaponize everything against the culture and politics and in the judiciary.
01:23:21.000I don't want to use that because it's such a cliche, but this was the biggest take back of voter sovereignty in the history of human civilization.
01:24:21.000I think even upper class, because I was listening while I was waiting, like this mandate is much bigger, much more significant than in 2016.
01:24:31.000This wasn't done on the back of white working class turnout and low turnout in certain urban areas.
01:24:38.000Like they're going to get pretty close to their targets in Philadelphia.
01:24:41.000The story is less black voters came out to vote for Hillary Clinton.
01:24:46.000Then they, I mean, came out to vote for Kamala Harris, then Hillary Clinton as a share of the electorate, because some of them said, no, no more.
01:24:54.000And then others said, I'm just going with Trump.
01:24:57.000And then yet we could also point to places on the map like Oakland County in Michigan.
01:25:02.000This is a very affluent, wealthy, educated white area north of Detroit.
01:25:10.000North of it, it's to the west of Macomb where there are more working class, old school, what we used to refer to as Reagan Democrats and that kind of a demographic.
01:25:19.000Oakland County, Biden thrashed Trump in 2020.
01:28:00.000Well, you look at the way Wisconsin's breaking down, 30,000 Delta there.
01:28:03.000I mean, you know, thankfully she was off in North Carolina wasting her time instead of, you know, trying to gin up 30,000 more votes in Wisconsin, right?
01:28:12.000I mean, our chasers, Rich, we're not publishing the exact numbers, but let me just say that without our chase in Wisconsin, we could definitively, because we could track all this stuff.
01:28:30.000What's also crazy is we can look at Arizona.
01:28:33.000We don't know the final numbers in Arizona because it's a third-world country when it comes to running elections, but that's our margin right there, and then some.
01:28:43.000It was a full-team effort, but I will tell you, the low props came out, and they came out roaring.
01:28:49.000Yeah, I was just going to say that you guys, you focused a lot on Arizona.
01:28:55.000You had groups like Pressler's Group and others in Pennsylvania, too, doing work, and you can very clearly see that the local Republicans there, especially in Bucks, man, they knew what they needed to do, and they needed to add some extra help to do it.
01:31:20.000Because you guys, you definitely focused as you should have on Maricopa, but there are a lot of votes coming in from counties that are changing the math in Arizona.
01:31:28.000Yeah, because we staffed heavily in Yavapai.
01:31:51.000But why don't we just extract more votes out of Mojave and Yavapai?
01:31:56.000Yeah, Rich, when we did the math and we're like, oh wait, you didn't mean to tell me there's 50,000 people in Andy Biggs' district that are registered Republicans that just don't vote?
01:33:05.000I get a call from a reporter this morning, Rich, and the reporter goes, "You would agree that the election was run really smoothly, actually, across Arizona." It's like, "We have 63% of the vote in!
01:34:46.000The only person it is good for is Charlie Kirk because we stream all week and we get millions of people wondering what's going on in Arizona.
01:34:52.000Literally, it is the only beneficiary.
01:34:54.000And for Rich because we'll bring you back in.
01:34:56.000We're streaming tonight because it's the only suspense left is the Arizona Senate race.
01:36:05.000Like the Alita Bensons of the world...
01:36:07.000Running around, doing the same work, registering low and no-prop voters, getting them to the polls, closing the Democrats' registration edge.
01:36:14.000This stuff is not sexy work, but it's the work that wins elections.
01:36:18.000And once upon a time, when Joe Biden went into this race, Democrats had an advantage three times the size they have now.
01:36:28.000So Brown could conceivably pull this off because what we expect to be outstanding in Clark is not Enough for Rosen with the amount that she's winning it by if Nye comes in as we expect and as Washoe comes in as we expect.
01:36:45.000Now, if he loses the remaining vote that's in Washoe, if he loses that by a greater margin than we expect, she can eke it out.
01:37:37.000Our polling showed that if you broke, if you had a large enough sample size, and you broke down 18 to 24 versus 25 to 29, you could see somewhat of a difference in their response.
01:37:48.000But overall, she was underperforming 18 to 29.
01:37:51.000And if you believe the exit polls, she only beat Trump by about eight points with the 25 to 29, which was his more vulnerable one.
01:37:58.000In the end, she says that she beat him by 10 with the 18-24.
01:38:02.000However, again, that's not the case in different states.
01:38:07.000In some of these battleground states, Trump absolutely overperformed.
01:39:02.000And if the poll does not make sure that super seniors who are more difficult to get and stay on that call when you're giving an interview, if you're not careful and your 75 plus is not an accurate representation of the overall 65 plus group, you're going to have too many of those boomers and your senior sample is going to be too Democratic.
01:40:08.000I talked to you guys about some of this stuff privately, right?
01:40:10.000And we had some conversations on the show as well about it.
01:40:13.000This is not her first red flag, all right?
01:40:18.000Going back to 2020, she spiked that poll before the Democratic caucus because Biden was in fourth place.
01:40:24.000And then they fabricated, using Buttigieg as the foil, they fabricated some ridiculous excuse as to why they were spiking the poll because one interviewer, a May or may not have zoomed in her screen so much that Pete Buttigieg was cut off.
01:40:46.000Mike Cernovich, separately from another source, got it as well.
01:40:50.000And he knows that they tanked that because the Biden campaign laid on CNN and CNN laid on the Des Moines Register and they in turn laid on Ann and she caved.
01:40:58.000And she came because she's a liberal, all right?
01:41:01.000And I'm being told, fast forward to 2020, by the way, she was doing headline polling.
01:41:09.000We pulled Iowa off the table in September because the public polling project has to make decisions based on what is and what isn't, you know, justifiable to poll.
01:41:19.000And that was Trump plus eight in September.
01:41:39.000Almost as if she knew that Democrats were going to replace Joe Biden with Harris.
01:41:43.000Because she only released it a month later.
01:41:46.000When they re-polled Harris separately and then could use it as a narrative.
01:41:50.000And in the story it said, and by the way, the Des Moines Register poll actually polled last month in something we didn't show you, and it shows that Harris was much stronger than Joe Biden.
01:42:10.000The reason I knew about the Des Moines Register Poll's results two days before they were released is because the source told me that Ann was cackling up a storm on the phone with Harris surrogates saying, I'm going to drop a bomb in this son of a bitch's lap.
01:42:27.000So this is not appropriate behavior for a credible pollster.
01:42:31.000This is the behavior of a political activist, a partisan.
01:42:36.000And I'm done with this idea that Ann Seltzer's above reproach.
01:42:40.000I'm done with this idea that she's a respected pollster.
01:42:50.000That isn't a miss that can be explained away even by response bias, guys.
01:42:55.000This is like And this is what the source told me.
01:42:58.000After January 6th, something broke in Ann's brain.
01:43:01.000And she's been seeing what she wants to see in the data, and it's getting worse.
01:43:05.000And they can't raise any questions about their concerns about her ability to remain objective because her reputation is so bulletproof they'll be fired.
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01:46:04.000Because I think he did an Ann Seltzer thing too with that.3 call for Kamala based on the EV. Everybody's looking at it going like, what the hell are you talking about?
01:46:23.000And he goes, he said, it's not going to be nearly enough to save him, the culinary union, and it's probably not even going to be enough to save Rosen.
01:49:06.000I also think this thing, we just anecdotally hear a lot of voters will throw in their own things when we're, especially in these texting interviews because they feel like they could just say something real quick off the cuff.
01:49:18.000The transgender thing, the watching of a woman.