The pressure campaign against Joni Ernst continues, an update on Pete Hegseth and also what is going on the front lines in the U.S. Senate. Chip Roy joins us to talk Doge and Poundman Act, cutting spending and more.
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00:02:21.000Let's begin kind of connecting yesterday's news cycle to today.
00:02:25.000Yesterday, we were very clear that if anybody were to vote against Pete Hegseth as a Republican from a Republican state, that they will be met with a primary challenge.
00:02:34.000And we went to Twitter, otherwise known as X, and we named names, specifically the alleged, but we know what's really going on here, leader of the campaign against Pete Hegseth, which is the queen of the neocons in the U.S. Senate.
00:02:47.000Again, I'm sure she's a nice person, great table manners, very polite.
00:02:50.000I've never met her, so I can't speak to her character.
00:02:52.000I can speak, though, to her publicly stated positions, her policy, and her campaign to try and thwart and undermine Pete Hegseth.
00:03:00.000The only downside of what happened with Matt Gaetz is these senators are feeling a little uppity.
00:03:06.000They feel as if they can challenge the president and basically embrace a pocket veto We're good to go.
00:03:35.000Because the Bobby Kennedy fight is going to be nuclear.
00:03:38.000It'll be different, but it's going to be nuclear.
00:03:40.000You see, with Pete Hegseth, it's not yet identified what special interests specifically are against Pete Hegseth.
00:03:46.000With Bobby Kennedy, Pfizer, Eli Lilly, AstraZeneca, Moderna, Johnson& Johnson, they're going to have artillery shells.
00:03:53.000Well, I actually think they're really good parallels.
00:03:55.000I think the three biggest fights are going to be I think I put her in 1B or maybe even 2, but it's going to be RFK and it's going to be Pete because they are looking to helm the agencies that have the largest amount of private corruption surrounding them.
00:04:15.000I mean, with Pete, it's the Defense Department, right?
00:07:38.000Playcut 139. So, the example of transgender people serving in our military.
00:07:44.000We have transgender people serving in our military.
00:07:48.000They will bleed red just as the rest of us.
00:07:51.000But I also take a stance that we should not be integrating transgender people into certain situations where it does make, if you have a female barracks and you have a transgender woman who has not transitioned, We shouldn't make the rest of the unit uncomfortable about that setting.
00:08:11.000There are certain accommodations we can make for that transgender individual.
00:08:16.000But if they bring value to our unit, if they have specialties that we can use, especially if we want to maintain an all-volunteer force We want to bring that talent into our services.
00:08:29.000And I know that's controversial, but again, I'm looking at what's good for our nation.
00:08:36.000And believe me, when we're facing a recruiting challenge right now, if people are physically willing and able to serve our country, we want them to do so.
00:08:46.000Look, let's make the enemy uncomfortable.
00:09:14.000There was an article out of Real Clear Politics from Phil Wegman.
00:09:19.000But basically, this reporter, Phil, brought up Charlie's tweet.
00:09:24.000Noting that she voted for Secretary Lloyd Austin.
00:09:28.000And so this reporter brings up this tweet, Charlie pointing this out.
00:09:32.000And she says, no, no, Ernst said of the accusation that she was working behind the scenes to sink the nominee.
00:09:38.000And believe me, I have been feeling this.
00:09:40.000The senator insisted that there is absolutely no campaign against Pete, adding that her focus remains strictly on ensuring a thorough and fair confirmation process.
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00:12:00.000To your point, the fact that donors are already showing this much enthusiasm to take out senators that put an RNX their name, are happy to go on a stage with Trump when he comes to your state, or try and draft off his coattails,
00:12:16.000and yet, when it comes down to defending his Picks in the cabinet and you get in the way of that, this is the base and not only the base, the donor class is totally fed up with it and they're sick of it.
00:12:31.000So if you think that this is 2012 anymore and that you're just going to get away with this, times are a changing, as somebody once wrote.
00:15:47.000Yes, and if you continue to do this rubbish where you are pushing against nominees that obviously are qualified, the grassroots is just waking up.
00:15:59.000And by the way, there's a lot of time left on the clock if you guys want to avoid a primary.
00:16:04.000When Bobby Kennedy names come up, get behind it.
00:16:45.000You know, we're a pretty good state of affairs right now when you've got the administration coming in.
00:16:52.000You know, I was down in Florida with some friends just a couple days ago.
00:16:55.000Come back, we've got Elon and Vivek Meeting with the Republican conference to talk about what they're going to do with Doge, right?
00:17:03.000This Department of Government of Efficiency.
00:17:05.000My only complaint is that efficiency really should be elimination more than efficiency.
00:17:09.000But at the end of the day, we had a really good conversation.
00:17:12.000And look, I think their primary and best role is going to be to expose the absurdity of government spending, demonstrating to the American people, which will then increase pressure on Congress to do its job.
00:17:28.000But also the incoming administration, Russ Vogt coming in as the OMB director.
00:17:32.000Those guys will be able to work closely with them, and they are already working closely to identify, you know, where they can cut.
00:18:15.000So I have a wonky question here, Chip, that is being debated and has definitely been discussed in transition circles, both publicly and privately.
00:18:25.000If the executive branch is appropriated from Congress, let's say $200 billion for the Department of Education, And the Department of Education, Linda McMahon, is doing a great job.
00:18:36.000And the president only spent $150 billion.
00:18:40.000Is the executive branch allowed to then send that money back to Congress and say, this was unnecessary.
00:18:50.000So what you're talking about in broad terms is what my friend Russ Vogt and others have been talking about is impoundment.
00:18:57.000And that is the authority of the president, effectively, to not spend all of the money that Congress sends to the president.
00:19:04.000I happen to believe that that is, in fact, constitutionally correct, that we appropriate the president and the executive function can choose within some degree of reason, right?
00:19:15.000This is always some of the questions you have to deal with.
00:19:19.000I don't think the president has the unilateral authority to just say I'm zeroing out an agency without Congress saying, oh, hold on a second, we appropriated for the Department of Defense X. You can't just zero that out.
00:19:31.000But I think if the president says, look, there's waste, there's fraud, I don't agree with these particular directions, I'm going to direct as the executive this particular agency to go do ABC, maybe it's the Department of Homeland Security.
00:19:42.000But yeah, I don't think we need to spend all this money on these ridiculous programs, DEI and other stuff.
00:20:18.000I think he has the authority within some degree of reason to do that and should.
00:20:21.000And I think Elon and Vivek, Russ Vogt, and others will be ready to do that.
00:20:25.000I hope everyone understands, this is very important, that if we have a budget fight in Congress that we lose, which we're going to win some and lose some, you know this, Chip, and then all of a sudden the executive branch says, but hey, we have Doge, we have Vivek, we have Elon, and we're able to just be, we're only going to spend 80% of what Congress sends us, and we're able to prove it, you can then actually cut spending even if Congress fails the test.
00:20:50.000Potentially, theoretically, if the Supreme Court can come in in favor of the Impoundment Act.
00:21:15.000And I think the Supreme Court, again, within reason, would fall in behind the president's authority to do that and pretty aggressively be able to do that.
00:21:24.000You just can't fundamentally rewrite it all and just zero it out.
00:21:28.000So, you know, courts would probably set some parameters.
00:21:31.000I think Congress could probably set some parameters, but I don't think Congress can say that the president is unable to reduce the spending.
00:21:39.000It will be critical, to your point, for the president through his OMB and through all the people working with him and for him.
00:21:46.000Doge is kind of its own island over here.
00:21:48.000I'm not even 100 percent sure yet how it will be formally structured.
00:21:51.000But however that plays out, the president is going to be very important to shrinking the bureaucracy, shrinking the weaponized government, undoing the damage of the bloated government.
00:22:04.000Congress needs to come in behind them and do smart appropriations and back them up and say, no, you do have the authority to do that.
00:22:13.000And here are our appropriations bills.
00:22:15.000But I don't want Congress to be absolved of the responsibility to pass responsible appropriations bills and handle the reconciliation process properly.
00:22:28.000I'm skeptical at times that the beast is going to be able to be stood up to.
00:22:34.000So am I. That's where I think the executive branch having some agility and some capacity could end up saving hundreds of billions of dollars.
00:22:50.000Hope everyone understands this, is that the bond markets will look for signals that spending will get under control and the deficit can be controlled.
00:22:59.000Inflation is being driven by our deficit.
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00:24:16.000You have never been a rubber stamp for President Trump.
00:24:19.000You support him when you can, and you're an honest broker.
00:24:23.000Grade his cabinet picks and grade this transition, please.
00:24:27.000Look, I think the president has been doing an exceptional job since November 5th.
00:24:31.000And yeah, I try to be an honest broker.
00:24:34.000I'm constitutionally required to be an honest broker.
00:24:36.000But look, the president did an exceptional job on the campaign.
00:24:40.000He built a coalition that is representative of, I think, the shifting sands and the political climate and landscape.
00:24:47.000And I think he's made a lot of exceptional picks.
00:26:04.000These are people that are going to change the way we focus on the power at the FDA and the power that we've got in all of the bureaucracy over there and undermine the power that the insurance companies and hospitals and all those guys have.
00:26:18.000Now, do I agree with those guys on everything?
00:26:38.000There's one or two others that aren't necessarily my favorites, but I think Cash Patel will be great at rooting out the FBI. Sorry, I'm just going around the list from my memory, but I think it's been really good.
00:26:49.000Now we've got to get busy getting the reconciliation packages and getting structured to deliver in January.
00:26:54.000In closing here, Congressman, help me and the audience understand, speculate a little bit of the Senate.
00:27:00.000Why is it that Senate Republicans from deep blood red states are enthusiastic at one point to vote for Biden's nominees, but put up all this drama for Trump's nominees?
00:27:11.000Help the audience understand the psychology here.
00:27:14.000Yeah, well, look, let's just speak very directly about Senator Ernst in Iowa, who's been attacking Pete Hegseth.
00:27:19.000This is somebody who wants to draft our daughters, Charlie, which I strongly oppose.
00:27:23.000Over my dead body, are we going to pass and draft our daughters?
00:27:26.000This is someone that was, you know, voting for gay marriage.
00:27:29.000This is This is somebody that's voted for all of those bad nominees you just talked about.
00:27:34.000She was out there championing the bad Senate border bill and then criticizing President Trump for opposing that bill.
00:27:42.000These are people who do not share the perspective of the American people that sent President Trump back into office, that gave us the House and the Senate, and they want change.
00:29:13.000So, yeah, so it's been rumored that she is considering running for president.
00:29:17.000Apparently she said this like 10 years ago.
00:29:21.000She put on the calendar, 2028, that was when she was going to make her move.
00:29:27.000So, because of how the turmoil surrounded the Democrats and the disarray, they can't figure out which way is up.
00:29:35.000You know, their new DCC chair, whatever, DCCC, he's saying we don't have to abandon immigrants and we don't have to abandon trans rights and all this stuff in order to win.
00:29:46.000I mean, they're not learning, Charlie.
00:29:50.000There's a congressman out of Massachusetts, I forget his name off the top of my head, Blake will have it for me, who just said, hey, you know, I don't want my daughters playing on a sports field with men.
00:30:29.000So she's saying all of these right things.
00:30:32.000Now, meanwhile, Politico has a new story that Ocasio-Cortez is set to launch bid for top role on the Oversight Committee and Dems are predicting that she's going to win.
00:30:43.000Look, AOC, if you look at her social media, she has extraordinary amount of followers for a lawmaker.
00:33:13.000Is the future of the Democrat Party, given that we still have an Electoral College, thankfully, is it going to be going in the way of George McGovern, very, very far left, or going in the way of Bill Clinton?
00:33:24.000There has not been a successful Democrat candidate, unless it's Obama, that has been able to kind of build that coalition.
00:33:31.000Because the Electoral College, temperamentally, in a political year, presidential year, tilts center-right.