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00:03:33.000The reason why I brought up Mussolini is because obviously we know that people who we call that pro-war – John Trump's quote on that was just – we're leveling just on the same facts.
00:03:43.000He said, these radical lunatics are the enemy within.
00:04:06.000There's also a common talking point when it comes to talking – a common talking point Republicans have is that there was no new wars when he was – Yeah, what war did he start?
00:04:16.000Well, when it comes to no new wars, he assassinated Soleimani.
00:04:42.000Because we actually had a chance to have a peace deal five days into the war, and it was the United States of America that came in and blew up the peace deal in Istanbul, Turkey.
00:06:25.000Kamala Harris is continuing to fund the Russia-Ukraine war and said she would continue to vote in favor of it.
00:06:29.000Under which candidate was there a major war in the Middle East?
00:06:31.000Was there a major war in the Middle East under Donald Trump?
00:06:33.000To the first point, when it comes to Ukraine and Russia, America is funding the Ukraine because of an agreement we had in, what, 2014?
00:06:43.000We're holding up a peace treaty with NATO that if any country who wants to join NATO— We have to give them some type of funding.
00:07:12.000Yeah, so look, the NATO treaty that actually says we're going to defend a NATO ally, Article 5, that doesn't apply to Ukraine because Ukraine is not a member of NATO. I know what you're talking about.
00:07:34.000So the U.S. actually made a commitment back in 1990 to say that NATO would expand not one inch past East Germany.
00:07:41.000Our Secretary of State made that commitment to his counterpart in – actually, it was Gorbachev who led the Soviet Union.
00:07:47.000So – We've actually, in some ways, been responsible for creating the conditions that have created global instability, but that's actually gone up under Joe Biden.
00:08:26.000The Abraham Accords was bringing all the people to the table, cut Palestinian Authority funding, also cut Iranian funding so that the Iran piggy bank could not fund terror throughout the region.
00:08:35.000Brought Saudi Arabia, the United Emirates, Bahrain, and Israel in the room and signed a historic once-in-a-generation peace deal between those Arab partners and Israel.
00:08:42.000And that region was the quietest it ever was in 50 years.
00:08:45.000With Russia, Ukraine, he told Vladimir Putin, you go into Ukraine, I will bomb Moscow immediately.
00:09:08.000Trump literally talks about deals or secret meetings that he had.
00:09:13.000No, but it's just a very simple question.
00:09:14.000If Trump was bought by Putin or was friends with Putin, why did Putin not expand his country under Trump and every other president he expanded his country under?
00:10:04.000Well, Russia's not the enemy, exactly.
00:10:06.000How many of your friends have died because of Russians?
00:10:08.000How many of your friends died because of Ukraine?
00:10:10.000A lot of your friends have died here because of the cartels, and we don't call them an enemy, and they are an enemy within.
00:10:14.000So when Donald Trump is talking about the enemy within, he's talking about the cartels that are here that are poisoning our streets with drugs, that are bringing illegal guns into the country.
00:10:23.000Russia has never attacked the United States of America.
00:10:25.000There is proof that Russia has been funding far-right groups in America – Russia is also very tied to a lot of prominent right-leaning figures.
00:10:35.000There's a lot of Russian money funding in right-wing circles.
00:10:38.000In order to play that out, first of all, you're talking about a couple right-wing podcasters that received Russian cash.
00:12:04.000I'm more anti-Trump than I am pro-Kamala Harris.
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00:14:03.000I mean, yeah, I'm mainly talking about news corporates or like news outlets and also big media figures who can spin sort of disinformation and that can swing the election.
00:14:14.000For example, like Elon Musk targeting people on his platform that are liberal and targeting or like pushing out.
00:15:11.000I don't even blame you because the government stopped you from being able to know that.
00:15:14.000So right now, we're having a conversation where you believe that the pandemic did not begin, that COVID-19 did not begin in a lab in China, because guess what?
00:15:23.000That's exactly what our government required you to believe.
00:15:26.000If anybody said it did, they required it to be censored.
00:15:28.000What evidence do you have that was created in life?
00:15:30.000You now actually have the genetics of the virus to be able to go back to actually the lab that was manipulating a non-human virus.
00:15:36.000It was never a naturally occurring virus.
00:15:38.000The only way that they now know based on the genes.
00:15:41.000SARS is not a naturally occurring virus?
00:15:44.000It was designed to spread more rapidly, which is exactly why I did.
00:15:48.000But suffice to say that now at least every major scientist or medical researcher today who said two years ago that it did not believes this is the most likely origin of the pandemic.
00:15:58.000And yet most of the public, including even yourself, believes what the government told us two years ago.
00:17:25.000We got a lot of kids who are now suffering from mental health disorders.
00:17:28.000You got a lot of kids who have failed to acclimate socially, who are two, three, four years old, that grew up into that and never going to be the same again.
00:17:33.000More importantly, should I have been able to say during the pandemic that closing schools was wrong?
00:17:46.000On this one, we're going to agree to disagree.
00:17:47.000We have a Stalinist view of speech, basically.
00:17:50.000Charlie, even the labels aside, if somebody believes that you should not have been able to say during the pandemic that schools should remain open, if it's your belief that a media company should not have been allowed to say that...
00:18:02.000Then I think if you're voting for Kamala Harris, you are voting for the right candidate for you.
00:18:37.000So again, the beauty of this country is that she gets to have that view and vote for who she wants.
00:18:43.000And I think we have laid out here, this is a Kamala Harris voter.
00:18:47.000If you believe men can give birth, vote for Kamala Harris, not Donald Trump.
00:18:51.000If you believe that you should not have been allowed to say as a media company that schools should not have closed during COVID-19, that you should have been banned from saying it, absolutely Kamala Harris is your candidate, not Donald Trump.
00:18:59.000But this lays out the choice in the election.
00:19:02.000Your media companies should not put out this information.
00:19:32.000We believe that the Earth was in the center of the universe.
00:19:36.000Should a media company be allowed to say that climate change is not an existential risk to humanity?
00:19:44.000It depends on what type of data that they're putting out.
00:19:48.000So if a media company says the climate change agenda is made up on false premises and that, you know what, global surface temperatures will be allowed to go up, should they be banned from saying it?
00:19:57.000Should a media company say that bleach is good to drink?
00:20:07.000And they should be allowed to say it, of course, because the First Amendment protects all speech, hate speech, disinformation, misinformation, and correct speech.
00:20:59.000Okay, that's the point, is that at some point, that's why you should have First Amendment, because whoever's in charge gets to determine what is right or wrong.
00:21:50.000Okay, so I'll try to be as quick as possible because I have to go to class, but I want to go back to January 6th real quick.
00:21:57.000Let's just start with a point of common ground.
00:22:00.000Hypothetically, if one of our candidates had insurrected the government, or at least attempted to, do you think that candidate is eligible to be voted upon?
00:22:08.000Well, the Constitution says no, but it wasn't an insurrection.
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00:24:28.000Is it not true that he also thought that his plan to attempt to coup to the government, or attempt to, let's say, subvert the electoral process in 2020, would lose 7-2 of the Supreme And then he later amended that comment by saying it would actually probably lose 9-0 of the Supreme Court.
00:24:43.000So what is the question you have as it relates to January 6th?
00:26:17.000But however, I don't think Obama should be able to go to prison because you should get immunity as president against your actions or else a president would never be able to do anything.
00:27:57.000The people aren't voting for that, correct?
00:27:58.000In a primary campaign, Kamala Harris was not on the ticket, and you know that's correct.
00:28:02.000Joe Biden received 16 million primary votes without Kamala Harris as her VP. And all of a sudden, they said— Also, I love who we're pivoting all the way out of this.
00:28:15.000No, actually, one person died on January 6th.
00:28:16.000And it was Ashley Babbitt, an unarmed Trump supporter, who got shot in the head by one of— Maybe she shouldn't have trespassed in the Capitol.
00:28:54.000The whole country blew up for George Floyd, and yet a Trump supporter gets shot in the head, peacefully and patriotically protesting, and that's basically fine.
00:29:02.000I am for all of you to read the first section of Jack Smith's court filing.
00:29:05.000No one's going to read that crap, okay?
00:29:09.000But we have gotten to the point where we don't trust the media, we don't trust our legislator, we don't trust the executive, we don't trust anything.
00:30:16.000One friend in particular has multiple children that have been born here.
00:30:20.000I've got other friends that have kids that they brought with them.
00:30:23.000And I'm curious what y'all's thoughts are on that group that doesn't really get talked about, these kids that are brought here before the age of consent.
00:30:32.000They don't have the – they're not citizens like kids that are born here, but they were brought here before the age of consent, and then they turned into adults and have lives to live.
00:30:40.000I was wondering what y'all's stance was on that.
00:30:42.000Yeah, I mean I'm not running for office.
00:30:43.000All should be deported back as a family, but again, that's why I wouldn't win an election.
00:30:49.000Yeah, so look, my view is we've got to restore the rule of law.
00:30:54.000If your first act of entering this country broke the law, then you have to be returned to your country of origin.
00:30:59.000Now, for kids, do they enjoy birthright citizenship?
00:31:02.000I think if you're here as the kid of illegals, birthright citizenship doesn't apply to you.
00:31:07.000And the reason why is even if – I'll give you a different example.
00:31:10.000The kid of a Mexican diplomat who's here in this country legally, if that kid's born on American soil, he doesn't actually get birthright citizenship.
00:31:20.000So if the kid of a Mexican diplomat who's here legally doesn't enjoy birthright citizenship, then certainly somebody who hears illegally doesn't automatically get birthright citizenship either.
00:31:29.000So it's uncomfortable on the surface, but you've got to think through it logically, and I think that that's the principle we have to apply.
00:31:42.000All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof shall be citizens.
00:31:48.000So the and subject to the jurisdiction thereof is the part that does the heavy lifting here.
00:31:52.000And because of that, the same reason the kid of the diplomat isn't a citizen, the kid of somebody who's here illegally doesn't enjoy that citizenship either.
00:31:59.000And so I think that is already contemplated by the 14th Amendment.
00:32:02.000It also doesn't apply to foreign invaders.
00:32:05.000So if there's a foreign invader that crosses the Rio Grande and then has kids in the United States, no legal scholar in American history believes that that kid enjoys birthright citizenship.
00:32:13.000And I'll give you one more example because you're asking a smart question.
00:32:15.000Turns out it didn't apply to Native Americans.
00:32:18.000So for a while it didn't even apply to the kids of Native Americans.
00:32:20.000They had to pass a separate law to make that true.
00:32:24.000So that's why the arguments of birthright citizenship from the left often get distorted and oversimplified to the actual truth of what the Constitution says, and I'm on the side of the Constitution.
00:32:42.000My name is Reggie, and I'm a proud American born in Chicago, raised here in Georgia.
00:32:47.000And my question is based on immigration.
00:32:49.000So I agree that illegal immigration is probably the biggest issue that America is facing right now.
00:32:55.000I mean, we see that the border crisis is, I mean, just devastating in major cities like Chicago, which is where I'm from, and New York.
00:33:01.000But my question is, for people like my grandmother, who is an immigrant from the Caribbean, we had this conversation, and she told me that she never even thought to come to this country illegally.
00:33:11.000She came using the law, following the law, and coming illegally never even crossed her mind.
00:33:16.000And she worked hard, and she now lives a nice life here in Georgia, like me.
00:33:20.000So my question to you, both of you, is how do we separate the people that come with good intentions, that want to build family legacies, and the people that come with bad intentions, like criminals, I appreciate the respectful question.
00:34:27.000She didn't have a lot of resources, but she worked very hard to build what she has today, so she wouldn't be able to come in.
00:34:32.000Well, I think if she's going to make contributions to this country and she fits the criteria people are going to assimilate into and love the United States, that's the kind of people our legal immigration system should select for.
00:34:41.000Today it selects for, you know who it selects for?
00:34:44.000The number one human attribute that our legal immigration system selects for isn't who's smart, isn't who's going to work hard, isn't who loves the country.
00:34:51.000It's are you willing to lie to the U.S. government or not?