This week, the boys talk about cigars, Bitcoin, and the people who make them. They also discuss the current events in the world, including Bitcoin's halving in value and the current state of the stock market. And, of course, there's a new segment called "The Cigar Guy" where the boys try to figure out who's making the most money out of cigars and who's getting the most out of them. And, as always, we have our Hot Water, FMK, and FMK's of the week, and we're joined by special guest, comedian and friend of the show, Joe Pesci. Enjoy, and tweet us what you thought of this episode! Timestamps: 4:00 - Cigars and Bitcoin 6:30 - Who makes the best cigars? 7:20 - How much money does it take to make a good cigar? 8:40 - What's the difference between a good and bad cigar 9:15 - What does it mean to be a man of cigars 10:00 - Who is making the best cigar 11:30 - What do you think of the cigar industry? 12:15 13:20 14:40 15:00 | Cigar companies? 16:30 | Cigars? 17:40 | Who makes them? 18:00 // Cigar company? 19: How much are they getting paid? 21:20 | Who are they making these things? 22: Who makes a good life? 23:00 / 22: What do they make the most of it? 25:00: What kind of cigars do they roll? 26: What are they make? 27:30 // Is it a good day? 29:00/30: What is the value of a good night? 32:30/33: Is it hard to make the best thing? 35:30 / 32:50/35:00 & 35:00 +40:00 Can they make it better than a good time? 36:00 Is there a better way to make money in the best place to live in New York City? 37:30 + 35:40: Is Bitcoin worth $20,000? 39:00 How much do they get paid in a good place? 45:00 Are they making a good deal? 47:00 Do they make a better gig?
00:03:34.000And I had a hard time with it because...
00:03:39.000I felt like what they're giving us in a place to go and do stand-up every night and have an audience there, the value I was getting for my act was so much more valuable than the $20 I was getting paid.
00:03:55.000I wanted them to give me a place where I could go work on my act and then take that To some other city or some other bigger gig, and that's where I would make my money.
00:04:34.000Yeah, and I love that place, and I love Bob, the guy who owns it.
00:04:37.000And I don't mean a partnership like I have an ownership in it, but I feel like there's...
00:04:41.000I have a bit of an obligation, I think we all do, to perform at the great clubs.
00:04:46.000Just to keep them floating, and to keep everybody happy, because you can, and because it's good for you, and it's good for me, and it's good for everybody.
00:04:55.000Instead of a partnership, maybe that's not the best word, but there's some sort of...
00:14:46.000Sometimes something's happening between two people, like you're upset about something, and instead of thinking about how you're conveying your thought to them, all you think of is what you want to happen.
00:15:06.000Even though you want someone to shut the fuck up, the problem is when you say that, you're not really thinking about communicating with them through their eyes.
00:15:15.000Nobody wants anyone to say, shut the fuck up, but we say it because we want people to shut the fuck up.
00:15:55.000I find like, getting older, that thing I'm more aware of.
00:16:01.000It's that big part of not thinking about you all the time.
00:16:06.000You're always thinking, especially when you're young and you're coming up and it's just me, me, me, me, because you're just trying to survive, you're trying to figure, you don't even know what you want.
00:16:13.000When you shut that part down and think about the person across from you, it opens up the whole world.
00:16:21.000But it's a difficult thing to learn, especially when you're young.
00:16:25.000It's also contradictory to success, like you think, but not.
00:16:31.000If you don't think about yourself, no one will.
00:18:42.000Yeah, and I think the more we recognize that, the more we see evidence of that, even in groups or chunks of people that share our mindset on other things.
00:18:58.000Like, say, if you're a Republican and there's, like, some Republican candidate or something that's running for president, but they're really shady in one way or they're corrupt or whatever.
00:19:08.000And, you know, you don't want to talk about it because it's a part of your party.
00:21:43.000Like, if your next door neighbor's a Jew and the guy on the other side of you is a Baptist and you're an atheist, there's no reason why you can't all be great friends.
00:22:03.000And isn't it more effective, if you are really politically minded and you really love Hillary and you love what she stood for and you want that, isn't it more effective to invite this guy into your life and let him see that he has a lot more in common with this liberal family at the end of the block than putting up walls and keeping him out?
00:22:25.000I think that people were given a real disservice by being forced to choose only on one side or the other.
00:22:34.000One of them is Donald Trump, and the other one is Hillary Clinton.
00:22:37.000This hustle system that they put together of a two-party system is the reason why it's so difficult, because a party has to choose a candidate.
00:22:45.000You have to vote in the primaries, so you have to be registered.
00:22:50.000When you think about the actual numbers of people that vote in the primaries, it's a fraction of the people that vote in the general election, right?
00:22:55.000And that's a fraction of the population.
00:22:57.000And so if you're forced to choose between this really lackluster candidate and people say, oh, she had all this experience, regardless of what you think about Hillary, whether they supported her or not, you'd have to look at it objectively and say, well, she's a deeply flawed candidate.
00:23:28.000...that gay people shouldn't have the same rights in terms of, like, bonding in a relationship than a straight person, well, that's a crazy person's idea.
00:24:02.000Everything was fine, and everything was no big deal, and he's like, it's a fucking huge deal, and they, like, she would say that, you know, there was no evidence of this, and he said there was evidence of this on multiple occasions, and it's like, you look at the two of them back to back, you go, what the fuck, man?
00:24:17.000And people got mad at me for making a big deal out of that.
00:24:19.000Like, there's a lot of people that say, hey, man, you know, you're partially responsible, and people like you, for pointing out all this Hillary Clinton shit, like, no, no, we're talking about reality.
00:24:29.000We're not responsible for reality-sucking.
00:24:32.000But the idea is the opposite is don't talk about it at all.
00:26:08.000Going after public lands and rolling back all this EPA stuff.
00:26:11.000And then you see Trump make a deal yesterday with Pelosi and Schumer saying, we're going to try and make sure that these DACA kids are allowed to stay.
00:31:32.000Maybe he's right 30% of the time that he does this.
00:31:36.000Maybe that cop does that all the time and catches these guys that are there that are illegal immigrants and they're just there to try to hustle and work on people's houses.
00:33:58.000Yeah, with fecal matter all over the fucking room.
00:34:01.000I mean, we could radically cut down on the amount of fecal matter available if we just had jets of water that clean our asshole like the rest of the world.
00:39:22.000He worked at that fucking pipe for years, man.
00:39:25.000You gotta admit, the dude put his time in.
00:39:27.000There's a lot of weeds out there that are complaining about Harry, but these fuckers, they grow real fast, and then they just stay the same size.
00:40:47.000When you see what's going on around the world in these horrible places, my daughters have friends and in the summer their parents take them to Haiti or someplace and they work for a week or two helping build these places.
00:42:46.000Like, you can get a job, and you can work, and you're part of this community, and you do whatever you do, whether you're a fisherman or whether you're a carpenter or whatever you do.
00:45:43.000I feel like it keeps you making stuff and keeps you...
00:45:47.000You know creating and doing things um, it can it can be either or right?
00:45:51.000I mean it could be a good thing because people who aren't ambitious and don't get things done a lot of times We all know like lazy guys and they're you know, sometimes their family can suffer Yeah, they don't make ends meet and it's not because of a lack of opportunity Right because they fuck up and they're lazy and they don't just gear with it and get together but At a certain point in time,
00:46:13.000we definitely know people that are caught up in it to the point where that's all they're concerned with.
00:46:18.000All they're concerned with is moving up and the numbers and the ladder and the...
00:46:34.000This is why I like to look at, this is a fucking very hippie way to look at things, but I honestly like to look at all my pursuits, like everything I do, or I try to do, as something that hopefully makes me a better person.
00:48:12.000Anytime you talk about whether it makes you a good person, any kind of a thing like that, like what you're talking about, is kind of similar to yoga.
00:48:21.000It's kind of similar to what we're talking about, like going and helping the pygmy.
00:50:52.000It's like, oh, it's just like this, but you know, there's that thing.
00:50:56.000Talking about living in these communities in other countries and you're a fisherman and you do your little thing.
00:51:02.000Is that wallowing in shit and just staying small?
00:51:05.000Or is there beauty and a great life living in something small like that?
00:51:10.000There's beauty and a great life in doing things that make you happy.
00:51:13.000And there's a lot of people that believe that subsistence living, like those folks that live off the land in villages and they catch fish and they have a whole setup, and they're not without food.
00:51:24.000They have food, but their life essentially is about procuring food.
00:51:28.000It's not about getting a job at a factory somewhere.
00:51:45.000And you're making whatever fucking brand of sneakers that they sell in America, because they can make them down there and pay a guy $2 a day.
00:52:29.000It's called Happy People, something in the Taiga, Life in the Taiga.
00:52:35.000It's about the Taiga River in Siberia, and these people that live up there, and they have almost no money.
00:52:41.000Everything, whatever money that they do have, like if they trap furs and stuff like that, they'll trade it in for equipment and some money to get supplies.
00:53:03.000And then also these two questions, right?
00:53:06.000Like, are they happy because we evolved that way?
00:53:10.000And that those motions of going out and catching fish and hunting and growing your own vegetables and having a tight-knit, small community, is the benefit in that is that it hits all the old notes that we've had since we evolved, you know,
00:53:25.000from the time we were lower primates to living in these small clusters of monkey people to Living in villages to working together and living off the land.
00:53:34.000And then that has been going on for so long.
00:53:57.000Passaic and Patterson, these places that were booming and now they've kind of fallen off.
00:54:02.000And she creates these city gardens in all these different places and brings young students in to sit and work with the earth and grow vegetables.
00:54:12.000The change in these kids who are just on their phones and just in this tough city world and there's no money and it's like this desperate...
00:54:33.000Because just what you're saying, it's what we're supposed to do.
00:54:36.000It's our nature as beasts to do these things.
00:54:40.000I'm not necessarily saying it's what we're supposed to do as much as I'm saying it's what we did do for so long that we know it and the grooves have already been cut.
00:55:07.000Now think a human being that's living in like the taiga, you're talking about grooves that have been polished and cut and the exact fit for the environment.
00:55:15.000So all their human reward systems for survival, they're not based on some sort of technological innovation that will move us towards a world of artificial intelligence and fucking the internet going through your brain, pumping through the sky and Wi-Fi all over the globe.
00:56:03.000I mean, the very thing that we enjoy most, watching and performing stand-up comedy, is all done with electric lights and a microphone in a completely unnatural environment that's air-conditioned.
00:56:14.000Yeah, but you're dealing with human beings.
00:56:16.000You're dealing with heartbeats and sweat and breath.
01:01:18.000And I was thinking I should do, because I'll go run three miles, but, you know, it's a little hilly, but I was thinking, like, if I were to just spend the workout going up and down that hill...
01:02:12.000There's great benefit in those things, but they lost a class action lawsuit, and I should clear this up for a lot of people that have been texting me about this or messaging me or commenting on my Instagram posts about those things.
01:02:24.000I learned, first of all, I'm not paid by these people.
01:03:22.000And then when you put on those five-finger shoes, those muscles have to work in a way they really don't have to work when they're in a shoe.
01:03:37.000But you have to be careful because if you go too hard, a lot of people get plantar fasciitis, I think that's what I'm saying, which is like really bad pain in the bottom of their foot.
01:04:41.000When you get up at night to go to the bathroom where you wake up in the morning, I get up and my ankles are like, I'm waking up kind of a thing.
01:05:07.000Because when you're throwing kicks, like you think about especially like a side kick or a front kick, there's so much pressure on the ankle.
01:05:29.000So when I run, I feel a big difference in the workout when I run up a straight hill versus I run up like a trail with rocks and shit where I have to jump from one stone to another.
01:06:41.000Oh, man, it was just, when you would take off and you're jumping from rock to rock, you know, especially when you know the trail and you know where you've got to jump and slide.
01:08:41.000He was saying the dirty secret among sadhus is that really what they're concentrated on is how many chillums can you smoke and still be there?
01:10:08.000This was before I was doing yoga regularly, but I had to do this show, and I was particularly nervous because someone I really didn't like was in the audience.
01:10:27.000So what I did was, I smoked weed, and I got really stretchy, and I started stretching out.
01:10:35.000And in my stretching, in this severe stretching, this is going to sound super fucking hippie, but I felt a severe sense of forgiveness for this person that I don't like.
01:10:48.000And I still don't like him to this day.
01:12:11.000And it's also the act of stretching, this intense act of stretching and holding positions, it does something for the overall way that your mind interacts with your body.
01:23:47.000Well, the tie problem with me is that some people have choked me too many times.
01:23:51.000So you feel like someone's getting, it's like that Hedberg joke.
01:23:54.000I've been choked hundreds of times, like literally.
01:23:58.000The average person has been choked, like the average person in the street, if they get choked once or twice in their life, you're like, what the fuck happened?
01:24:05.000And the journey from white belt to black belt, I was choked for sure hundreds of times.
01:24:56.000Nobody would go for anything other than the belt.
01:24:59.000All you have to do is get a hand under that belt, grab it, and twist, and you're out cold.
01:25:04.000All I have to do is secure some part of your body where it can keep you from moving.
01:25:09.000Like in maybe a side mount or a crucifix position, where I trap an arm, and I trap the other arm with my neck, and I'm going to choke the shit out of you.
01:25:19.000This isn't happening in your daughter's school function.
01:25:28.000If someone had a belt around their neck, like Jiu-Jitsu guys, I'm saying Jiu-Jitsu guys were rolling around, the ultimate goal would be to get the belt around the guy's neck.
01:25:36.000Like if you could do that, that would be the number one thing to do.
01:25:39.000And if you already had it knotted around your neck, like that was how you started, the way you knot around your waist, people would kill each other.
01:25:47.000They'd immediately grab that rope around your neck and choke you with it.
01:28:26.000The type of consciousness that you have when you are rolling with a person in jujitsu, when someone's trying to get you and you're trying to defend yourself, that type of feeling that you get...
01:28:36.000Is very different than any feeling that you get in most of life other than an actual conflict with a person, which is pretty rare.
01:28:43.000Luckily, we have a nice society, right?
01:30:16.000You can't elbow someone to the back of the head, which is...
01:30:20.000In a way, healthier for the athletes involved, but in another way, more delusional because it removes a very dangerous...
01:30:29.000Eddie Bravo's always talking about that, that when guys used to take guys' backs in the early days, what they would do instantly is elbow to the back of the head.
01:30:36.000It didn't matter if you defend the choke or not.
01:30:39.000If someone starts smashing the back of your head, you're fucked.
01:30:43.000That is removed from MMA. So because that's removed from MMA, You almost have to look at an MMA fight, which is absolutely a fight, as in a way, kind of a match.
01:31:27.000I mean, you're smashing each other, right?
01:31:28.000Not trying to kill, but you are using your explosive force on a person, trying to take them out, and it's a very dangerous encounter with severe consequences for your brain.
01:31:44.000Because like a Muay Thai fighter, a really good Muay Thai fighter, would kill most really good boxers if the boxer didn't know what was going on.
01:31:53.000Because a really good Muay Thai fighter, it's going to be very hard to hit him to get that close to him, and he's going to start kicking your legs immediately.
01:34:10.000That anybody outside of that, like, if Floyd Mayweather wanted to fight Sanchai, you let Sanchai kick him, it would be one of the most lopsided fights you've ever seen.
01:34:38.000When McGregor encountered with Floyd Mayweather, he would encounter in Thai boxing with a fantastic, one of the greatest ever, and a guy like Sanchai.
01:34:48.000So it sounds like the rules actually make it more interesting.
01:34:58.000Because with striking, there's all this other stuff involved.
01:35:00.000You hurt people with punches and knees.
01:35:03.000But when you want to look at a complete system, a complete system, mixed martial arts is as close as it comes without the elbows to the head and the kicks to the head on a down fighter and the stomps and the knees to the head on a down fighter.
01:37:39.000Yeah, there's so many of these little farmers, and some are pretty big for being little, but compared to what these giant things are, that really concentrate on...
01:37:52.000Growing the wheat the way that it used to be grown.
01:37:54.000Yeah, you have to have the heirloom seeds though, right?
01:38:33.000And I'm still learning and cranking out a lot and giving it away and stuff.
01:38:38.000So I'm going through a lot and won't sit forever.
01:38:41.000The way it's been described to me, the difference is between the difference of a tomato that you get in a grocery store today, even a good one, in comparison to an heirloom tomato.
01:38:51.000Yeah, that those tomatoes that we have today, like Neil deGrasse Tyson did a speech about this where someone was asking him, not a speech, but an answer to a question.
01:38:59.000I think it might have been in one of those talks that he does, those town hall talks.
01:39:03.000And someone was asking him about GMOs.
01:39:06.000And he said, virtually everything that we eat has been modified.
01:39:10.000Everything, from the oranges to the corn.
01:39:13.000Like, you wouldn't want to go back to the original corn.
01:39:31.000But when you do eat a tomato, like an heirloom tomato, you get a farmer's market that this guy grew in this tiny little farm and just happens to have them that week.
01:40:49.000The only thing I found was an article about a guy that just started a business and it said somewhere in there that as cheap as they could be made was like 30 cents a piece and it was as expensive as $5 a piece for the cigar itself.
01:41:01.000That included A highly skilled rapper to do it.
01:43:21.000I think between the original corn being that weird knobby thing and the corn that we have year round, I think there's probably an era in there where the corn tasted better.
01:44:21.000You're going to be driving home in your electric car and you're going to be thinking, hey, why the fuck all this comedy bullshit?
01:44:27.000What I need to do is get a big piece of land and start growing my own wheat and then chopping it down and making my own bread and have Tom Papa's Bread Restaurant.
01:45:19.000Does that appeal to you as an overall life, or does it appeal to you as a vacation from the current life that you enjoy, which is very hectic and kind of stressful, writing material, performing, traveling?
01:45:37.000I do feel like the process of making it and doing it matches up with writing really well.
01:45:45.000When I'm at home and I'm writing a lot and in between taking breaks and going and tending to the bread and then coming back to the writing, that back and forth is very satisfying.
01:47:08.000Do you think that it's that you've experienced these jolts of fun that you get from stand-up and that you become addicted to these jolts of fun and then seeing the happiness in people's faces when they're laughing?
01:47:22.000Yeah, that relating to people, that isolation of writing is...
01:47:27.000Okay, but until I can take that idea out, share it with other human beings, that's what I'm built for.
01:48:32.000You know that feeling where you're like, oh.
01:48:34.000I've always thought, no disrespect, people from Florida, but that's one of the reasons why people think of people that live in the South as being dull.
01:48:42.000Because I think for the longest time, before they invented air conditioning, those fucking people didn't have time to think deep.
01:49:13.000Because it was so evident to me during that time that we really can't even exist in this environment without the way we do and enjoy the way we live without the modern conveniences of the electrical grid and air conditioning units and the delivery of food and all this shit that we just get super accustomed to.
01:49:37.000Now, of life without that stuff as being impossible.
01:49:40.000But at one point in time, we were adapted.
01:49:42.000At one point in time, life without that, like those fucking people that live in the taiga, the worst it gets for them is it gets crazy cold, they bundle up, and they go inside and they burn wood.
01:49:51.000They have a whole system built in to survive that environment.
01:50:24.000Like, it's off and you'll step away and it'll dim up and then you stand right in front of it and it lights up and you're like, this is freaky.
01:50:53.000When I walk in after that heat wave and I would walk into my house, you take your shoes off and you put that bare feet on that cold tile, I'm pretty happy.
01:51:46.000In a lot of ways, almost like a mental marathon, because you're on this one thing for a long time.
01:51:52.000You're sitting there staring at this thing, and you're writing, and you're thinking about it, and you're focusing on it, and then you're going back at it, and you're thinking about it, and you're focusing on it.
01:52:00.000It becomes a part of your daily thoughts, even when you're not doing it sometimes.
01:52:04.000What was really remarkable was, you know, when you're writing your stand-up, you know, it's like in blocks.
01:52:36.000It's no different, really, than writing your stand-up.
01:52:39.000Do you take notes, like chapter-to-chapter notes?
01:52:43.000Like you have a notebook that you have sitting on the side, and you say, chapter one, here's all the things that I like or don't like.
01:52:50.000Not that specifically, but if there's something that I can't wrestle to the ground, and I'm like, I gotta fix that ending, I'll just write on the side pad, page 35, ending.
01:53:55.000Do you find that sometimes you have an idea that you're not getting out totally, but you leave it as is as a placeholder, and you review it later?
01:54:08.000But maybe there's something, if I just, like, leave it there like that, maybe I'll come at it from a different angle, but at least then I know to think about this one subject that I thought had some promise.
01:54:20.000It kind of taught me how much your subconscious goes to work on it without you being conscious.
01:54:27.000Like you don't realize that your brain is actually going to work on this.
01:54:32.000When you shut the computer and walk away and you think that's it, your brain is still going at it without you even being aware that it's happening.
01:54:41.000You ever read Stephen King on writing?
01:54:45.000One of the things I thought was the most shocking was that he doesn't really have a whole outline of his stories before he starts writing them.
01:57:17.000And she got back at them all because we realized that at the worst case scenario for a human is someone that could do that to some poor, misfortunate girl like Carrie.
01:58:24.000Yeah, when he really starts going nuts and the family realizes he's actually losing his fucking mind and being taken over by something that lives in this house.
02:02:24.000But the original stuff that he did, he was...
02:02:28.000I mean, was it that he was just fucked up and he was writing amazing stuff?
02:02:32.000Or was it that he was writing amazing stuff because he was fucked up?
02:02:36.000Clearly it has an effect on your mind.
02:02:38.000And your mind is where all your creativity, allegedly, is coming from, right?
02:02:43.000I mean, you're writing and you're concentrating the way you're thinking about things directly affects the work.
02:02:48.000So if you're thinking about things on coke and drinking, and you get this psychotic overview of life on earth and the interactions that people have with each other, and this is how you're writing, influenced by these drugs has a giant effect on creativity.
02:03:04.000Without talent to harness it and, you know, if you don't have that talent that he has, you can get just fucked up and then just you don't do anything with it.
02:03:15.000But sit in your room, you know, but he it's there's like real talent there.
02:03:20.000Yeah, that then the drugs influence that it's manipulating that giant talent.
02:03:25.000I mean, I think you could also say the same about a lot of great comics, like Kinison and Pryor.
02:03:29.000Obviously, they had a great relationship, bad relationship, with some drugs.
02:04:37.000Like tune it in and have it come to you.
02:04:39.000But I think it goes back to what we're saying about...
02:04:42.000Ego and like getting out of your own way like sometimes when you're writing you're so immersed in these thoughts and these ideas that you are out of your own way Yeah that tunnel yeah think then the booze and the coke and the weed or whatever the fuck you're doing helps you stay in that crazy zone of Just letting these ideas sort of create themselves in your mind and letting the story play itself out in your brain But how much of it is from within your brain and how much is it in the ether?
02:05:19.000I mean, because whenever you talk about meditating or even the yoga or the jujitsu, all that stuff we're talking about, it is a relationship to the universe.
02:07:09.000I really think that great stand-up is like poetry because it's all paring you down to this one simple way to deliver all of that thing in that blog.
02:10:56.000And that's where you can tell very specific, like, there's very specific characteristics of certain antlers, and you can tell, like, by the sheds if it's the same antler if you catch them, like, a year later.
02:13:49.000He just heard, oh shit, it's mom's gotta be around here.
02:13:52.000Yeah, we got out of there really quick.
02:13:54.000A friend of mine has a ranch in British Columbia, and he was on his horse, and he got too close to the baby, so the mother moose started chasing him at full clip.
02:18:02.000It's just really nutrient-dense, very protein-dense, very different than any other...
02:18:07.000Again, if you want to eat meat, in my eyes, this is the best meat for you and the best case scenario because...
02:18:15.000This is not like a factory farmed animal, and if you don't kill it, its fate is sealed by mountain lions, or bears, or wolves, depending on where it is, or starvation, or freezing to death.
02:20:44.000Yeah, go to a pastrami, you know, a sandwich place, get a fucking big corned beef with Swiss and mustard, and you're sitting there with a friend, eating at Jerry's Deli, having a great time, eating some fries.
02:21:16.000Well, you can obviously do something, but I'm saying, like, the situation that we're in right now, it has to be, like, resolved, but it can't be resolved instantly.
02:21:24.000Because to try to get all these people...
02:21:27.000Some sort of ethically raised animals, pasture-fed animals that aren't forced to eat some shit they're not supposed to eat, so they're unhealthy, to get your vegetables all free of pesticides, but also a high yield.
02:21:42.000You protect them from insects and pests and bullshit and disease.
02:21:48.000Don't you feel like it's going to have to be, like there's this new, I think it's called Better Burger?
02:22:20.000I'm saying if you look at those gigantic combines that chew up all that grain, when you go over those fields after they've been freshly cut, you see vultures all over, circling.
02:22:32.000Because there's a ton of fucking things that got killed in those blades.
02:22:36.000Rodents and rabbits and all kinds of shit.
02:22:59.000Like, everybody wants everything to be natural and organic, which is totally true.
02:23:02.000But without preservatives, it's very difficult to get supplies of shit and, like, stockpile things and to have things in surplus.
02:23:08.000I mean, other than grains and beans, you know, and canned things.
02:23:14.000You know, you'd have to can everything, but a lot of, like, shipping and how we move stuff around and how long we want stuff to sit on the shelves and how long we want stuff to stay fresh and want to avoid mold...
02:23:26.000By putting stuff in that avoids mold, it also fucks with the natural gut flora that we have.
02:24:43.000Like, who do you care about how I eat?
02:24:44.000Well, the meat eater doesn't make any sense.
02:24:46.000The meat eater ragged on the vegan, to me, doesn't make any sense at all.
02:24:50.000Unless it's just, like, you ever meet a woman that is just so mad at men, because she's ran into a few fucked up men, and they're like, you can't even talk to them?
02:25:24.000There's a legit thought point that could be made that the people that are...
02:25:29.000A lot of the people, maybe, that are shitting on vegans and veganism, they're doing so because they don't want to address their own complicity in the suffering of animals.
02:25:39.000And they don't want to think about it.
02:26:15.000I mean, how many goddamn vegans out there have the word vegan in their Twitter profile or their Facebook profile or their Instagram profile?
02:28:46.000I was like, it's going to be one or the other.
02:28:48.000Once I started hunting, I was like, oh, this is the way.
02:28:50.000Because this is exciting and crazy and wild, and it puts you in tune with nature in this crazy way.
02:28:55.000And you have this deep, intense respect for wild things that I never had before.
02:28:58.000I didn't think about the management of wildlife or the resources of the land that we have, like public land.
02:29:05.000And that these animals roam these areas, and these areas have to be supported with money, and that money comes from hunting tags and a tax on sportsman's gear and sporting gear.
02:30:11.000So at one point in time, before Fish and Wildlife Management Company started managing all this stuff, There was a severe problem with the lack of wildlife and the possible impending extinction crisis.
02:30:26.000But since then, they've repopulated elk in a lot of areas.
02:30:30.000They repopulated deer almost everywhere it was before.
02:30:34.000I have family in New Jersey, and there are deer all over the place.
02:30:38.000And I always thought it was because there was so much development that the deer have nowhere to go.
02:30:43.000Well, it's because there's no predators.
02:30:45.000And New Jersey has more predators now than ever before.
02:30:48.000New Jersey has the densest population of black bears in the country.
02:31:36.000Similar to what you started thinking about how he's going to get his food and stuff, and he started hunting deer, and because it's in New Jersey, there's all these deer, so he goes out, he gets like two a season, and it feeds his family for the year.
02:33:18.000No, I would say a high percentage, without knowing anything, of people that hunt love the outdoors, love being out there.
02:33:26.000But then you have those stories, like you were saying, with the Ted Nugent, where people just kind of come in with their guns and shoot and get drunk and go off.
02:33:33.000Ted Nugent doesn't do that, but he is a very boisterous right-wing type character.
02:33:38.000No, I'm saying the guys who came in and just shot his bucks and split.
02:34:42.000Then I take it off, and then I heat up a cast-iron skillet.
02:34:46.000I've jied a bunch of different ways, but this is the method that works the best for me, that I like the best.
02:34:51.000I heat a cast-iron skillet very, very hot, and then I put some grass-fed butter in the cast-iron skillet, and then I sear the outside and put a crust.
02:35:00.000So after the internal temperature is already 125 degrees, I cook it real quick.
02:35:04.000So off the pellet, into the pan, which is on the stovetop?
02:37:39.000When animals smell us, I don't know, I would wish science could figure out what it is that hits an animal's nostrils when they smell a person.
02:37:49.000But like a deer, they're like, fuck this, they're gone.
02:37:57.000So, like, say if you're looking at these animals, and you're trying to make a stalk on one, and then the wind is blowing in your face, like, this is perfect, they can't smell me, because the wind's in my face.
02:38:07.000Then as you get closer, the wind can shift.
02:41:36.000People that live outside, like go to that video from Far Rockaway where these two 500-pound bear, I might be exaggerating, 500-pound bears are rustling and fighting in the street, knocking over mailboxes.
02:46:52.000When you grow up watching Yogi Bear or watching Foghorn Leghorn.
02:46:58.000But as a child, when I was watching that stuff, my mom was also making amazing meals at the same time, so it was like I did not connect it now.
02:47:07.000Yogi was Yogi, and mom just made lasagna.
02:47:10.000There's a real problem with representing something.
02:47:53.000Well, the other thing is that that animal, especially dogs, they have developed this intense sensitivity and connection with people over thousands and thousands of years of having this weird symbiotic relationship with us.
02:49:08.000Empathy and feeling for things and like emotion of like, you know, it was so similar that it really showed like, just genetically wired to feel and have emotion very similar to the way we do.
02:50:41.000And because it's a vegetarian household...
02:50:46.000It was only when, I don't make meat that often when I'm with the family, because it's just kind of, you know, it's kind of weird to be sitting there eating meat in front of them.
02:50:53.000So, but when I do, when we're alone, sometimes when they're there, giving her some meat, she started to see me as the one thing in the house that gave me whatever that was.
02:51:06.000Our relationship went to a whole nother level.
02:51:49.000It is a weird thing that we've created these animals, not created them, but sort of bred them to the point where they become a part of the household.
02:52:00.000And they could kill you, but they don't.
02:52:01.000When your dog sometimes is just face to face, she's licking you on the face, and you just see the teeth, and you're like, this is kind of weird that my face is close to this jaw.
02:53:25.000Yeah, well, it's not as bad as rabies, but for this one dog, whatever kind of distemper he had, it was major symptoms include high fever, reddened eyes, watery discharge for the nose and eyes, an infected dog become lethargic and tired and usually become anorexic.
02:53:42.000I had another puppy that had this as well, and his thing, well, he didn't have this, but he had something that gave him seizures, and they thought it was distemper.
02:53:51.000See, fifth, seizures, paralysis, and attacks of hysteria.
02:56:39.000That's why it's like really funny, not funny, but it's really odd when like super light-skinned black people are like really radical black activists.
02:56:49.000You're like, hey, are you making up for something here?
02:57:05.000You have to like show your, you know, because it's one thing that a friend of mine said who's black, he was talking about black racism, and he was like, one of the weirdest racisms that I've had to accept is dark people versus like lighter black skinned people.
02:57:43.000Yeah, that's a whole mindset that I could never try and understand.
02:57:49.000But just give people enough time and they'll eventually find a group to belong to that they, even inside the group, like if you ask the black people who are light-skinned, do they identify more with the dark-skinned black people or white people, they'd probably see more of the dark-skinned black people.
02:58:03.000This is obviously a great generalization about these people that have these issues with this thing.
03:00:25.000I started watching because I heard you talk about him.
03:00:28.000He bailed on Colorado and now he's moved into the grizzly infested mountains of Montana.
03:00:37.000But not only that, he documented Officially documented grizzly bears in Colorado, where people are saying there's no grizzlies in Colorado, and there's even a website that deals with it and says that people who say they sighted a grizzly bear in Colorado, it's oftentimes like Sasquatch,
03:01:33.000He drove into Idaho, and now he's making his way down from Idaho into the parks in Idaho, and he's hiking into Montana, into grizzly-infested backcountry.
03:02:23.000Not a lot of people can do it that way.
03:02:24.000Even most bow hunters will tell you, like, man, I'll go for a backcountry camping trip for like seven days by myself or ten days, but this guy's just gone so deep.
03:03:43.000Well, he has a company in Australia, and he's kind of his own boss, so he gets to decide that he goes on the road for 30 days at a time and do this.
03:05:37.000I was just saying this before, Jamie, that I think living in LA, I just feel like I'm going to end up being the cranky guy that can't be around people.
03:05:57.000When I come back from the woods, if I go somewhere, especially camping, and then you come back to civilization, you kind of appreciate restaurants and movie theaters.
03:07:23.000You know what's interesting about that number, man?
03:07:26.000I remember when 250 million, when I was a kid, the population was 250. Because I remember thinking, me and my friends were sitting around, we were in high school, we were like, 250 million.
03:12:26.000We should look at it, but understand what we're looking at.
03:12:30.000We're not worshiping a statue of Christopher Columbus, but it is a fascinating thing to know that this monster got in a boat and sailed across the ocean.
03:12:37.000If it wasn't for him, likely wouldn't be a whole population here, or him and the people that he went with.
03:12:42.000I think you gotta add some new statues.
03:12:56.000What's fucked up was when you look at when those things were built, those things weren't built, like, way before the Civil Rights Movement and they're a relic of an ancient past.
03:13:11.000A lot of the Robert E. Lee ones and all that shit, where people were like, you know, we're gonna take back the world, and the South's gonna rise again.
03:13:17.000Yeah, no, they weren't around, right, since the 1800s.
03:13:21.000It was like 1965. And a lot of them are made really quickly and shittily in response to the civil rights movement, and that they were made out of, like, copper and bronze and shit, because it was easier to do than stone.
03:14:28.000Why do I look at it and go, I have a problem with this because they did it during the racist 1960s or during the early 1900s and the NAACP was created.
03:14:38.000I would accept it better if it was 200 years old instead of 100. Like, what's wrong with me?
03:15:28.000That's not putting a statue up there out of love.
03:15:32.000Do you ever think, though, that those people that were doing all this stuff back then, they really didn't have a direct connection with the world the way we have today?
03:15:40.000And then one of the reasons why we're seeing all these people tearing these things down now is because we all have a direct connection with each other, and we realize that, hey, these Civil War statues, they're fucking horrible.
03:15:50.000Like, what the Civil War was was horrible.
03:15:53.000Like, saying that it's a part of your culture, this is horseshit.
03:15:55.000Like, no, this is a part of a terrible attempted genocide on black people, demonizing to the point where they were the other and it was okay to enslave them for hundreds of years.
03:16:06.000No, you could live in New York State and not have any idea, really, what was going on in the South at the time.
03:16:29.000And two, it doesn't mean that, like, when you guys define yourself by a war that you lost, and the war had a big part of what the war was about with slavery, that's a giant problem.
03:17:03.000How strange is it that people lived better when you fed them and they lived in fucking cages than when they were released with no skills and no education and couldn't read and had to repopulate.