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00:01:32.000That is so crazy you didn't have enough credits.
00:01:34.000Guess so or maybe they didn't have the right credits or maybe they just didn't care like whatever you know, I didn't know I wasn't even that mad about yeah, whatever Credits yeah, how gross yeah, she said something like that But she was trying to be really nice like she was trying to let me down easy because she felt bad because we were friends And she wanted to go like you just don't qualify to come here and look at these tits Which is really her It was a weird place because it was super outdated.
00:04:31.000It's a 2018. Well, how the fuck is that even possible since it's 2017, you monkeys?
00:04:37.000It's got to be something about the anticipation of getting...
00:04:39.000It's almost like when a Halloween movie doesn't come out October 30th, because you're sick of Halloween by then, so it comes out, like, you know, say September 15th, and then by the time Halloween comes, the movie's finished, you're like, ugh, fuck Halloween.
00:04:50.000No, but that makes sense, because they're not pretending it's Halloween.
00:06:00.000So it's playing on the irrational thoughts that we have about certain things.
00:06:05.000Yeah, there's specific anecdotes about a Best Buy ad and why there's three washing machines and they're really trying to get you to buy the middle one, but they have two other priced ones.
00:06:14.000It goes into things just like that all over different aspects of life.
00:07:54.000Your body just hits, all that sugar hits your system and your body's like, what the fuck is this?
00:08:00.000And it's actually probably worse for me because I don't do it very often.
00:08:05.000Like if your body gets used to sugar, if you're drinking sugary sodas all day and you're eating White bread all day, and if your body gets used to processing that stuff, it has a better handle on what to do with it.
00:08:16.000Whereas with me, it only gets it every few days.
00:08:19.000So when it gets it, it's like, what the fuck is this?
00:08:21.000Especially if I overload, get crazy, eat a banana split or something like that.
00:09:42.000But it's one of those things where I know that, and I know that it's a fun gig, and I love doing it, but it's one of those things that's not about feeling like I haven't been blessed.
00:13:21.000So we said, okay, how about no drinking for the entire month of October, and you got to do 15 hot yoga classes in a month, which is fucking hardcore.
00:14:23.000See, Ari Shafir was supposed to, see, Bert and Tom had a fucking contest, and if they lost 25 pounds, Ari was supposed to take them on a trip to wherever they chose, and Tom wanted to go to Europe to watch a soccer game, and Bert wanted to go to watch some crazy football game, and Ari completely welched on the bet,
00:14:39.000and then took off and went to Asia for four months, and left me holding the bat.
00:14:44.000Not only did he take off, he took off and went off the grid.
00:14:47.000And don't think the two aren't related, Shafir.
00:16:04.000Tom lost the weight and kept the weight off, because Tom is like really disciplined, you know, which is why he just did another Netflix special.
00:16:11.000In like three and a half, four years, he's done three Netflix specials.
00:17:46.000Like, a lot of people have a misconception in jiu-jitsu where they think of it as being a bunch of, like, really aggressive, mean guys that are, like, attacking each other.
00:17:54.000But it's more, much more a bunch of, like, really smart...
00:17:59.000Analytical, stoner, sensitive, nerd-type characters who are also very strong because they do jiu-jitsu all the time.
00:18:06.000Or if they lift weights and get in really good shape, a lot of those guys, it's because of jiu-jitsu.
00:18:10.000And then, of course, there's people that come to it from football or wrestling or something like that.
00:19:04.000He fought Felix Trinidad, and I believe he was 36 at the time, and Trinidad was in his prime, and everybody really thought that Trinidad was going to run him over.
00:19:12.000And he beat the fucking shit out of Trinidad.
00:19:14.000And it was a weird, controversial fight, because he was in Puerto Rico, and he took the Puerto Rican flag and threw it on the ground, and everybody went crazy and wanted to kill him.
00:19:22.000Yeah, he wanted to get inside Trinidad's head and get him to try to brawl with him.
00:20:25.000I mean, Floyd is a natural 147-pound fighter.
00:20:28.000Like, when he weighed in for the fight with Conor, he weighed 149. And Bernard was fighting 175. It's just so much larger.
00:20:36.000Yeah, maybe he was talking about coming down.
00:20:38.000I don't remember the conversation, but obviously they would have had to have a catchweight.
00:20:42.000He fought this guy, Joe Smith Jr., who's a young guy who's a murderous puncher, and he just got fucked up and knocked through the ropes, and he fell on his head.
00:20:59.000And I love guys like that who don't try to give off...
00:21:02.000Just that shitty energy and I don't think I've ever gotten that energy off of fighters Well, you won't get it off the successful ones because to get successful you want to have as few Things that are in your way that are cumbersome as possible few ego issues and as few Distorted perceptions of reality as possible in order to weave your way through to the top Yeah,
00:21:26.000I mean there's exceptions to that where you have like Phenomenal physical specimens that are incredibly dedicated and dealing with a lot of demons like Tyson in his prime.
00:21:36.000You know, but I don't know if that would work in MMA the same way it worked in boxing.
00:21:40.000Like, I just don't know with all the variables in boxing.
00:21:43.000Like, with Tyson, or in MMA rather, with Tyson, like, in his prime, he could just wade towards guys bob and weave and throw bombs and figure out a way to just smash them.
00:21:53.000He was just so much faster than everybody and he hit so hard.
00:22:46.000I remember, by the way, Mirko, when you're talking about his stare, that's probably, whatever year he came over to UFC, was it 2008 or 2007?
00:22:52.000You were on our show on K-Rock, and you were talking about this guy Mirko Krokop's coming over and his fucking stare, and we were watching his stare down.
00:23:56.000Because if no one finished anyone, that was the other thing.
00:23:59.000Nobody finished anybody then decided that it was gonna be a draw.
00:24:02.000And the rounds were, were they 10-minute rounds?
00:24:04.000Well, back then they were 10-minute first rounds, and then you'd have a five-minute second round and a five-minute third round if it was a championship fight.
00:24:12.000But I think with Vanderlei and him, they shortened the rounds as well.
00:26:07.000I'm trying not to as much, but there's so many fun things to watch.
00:26:11.000I've been jerking off during the day because it's so ritualistic for me that when I jerk off during the day, I'm like, okay, I can be a person and I don't have to think about that for the rest of the day.
00:26:21.000It really helps my day go much more productive.
00:26:42.000Yeah, if I smoke too much weed before a show, I get phlegmy.
00:26:45.000I think it's a combination of maybe coffee and eggs like the eggs I think do it I went to like one of these alternative doctors I thought maybe my my adrenal glands were fucked up so he's like well you got to cut out the eggs or cut out the coffee and I can't stop with the coffee Fruits good for like before a show like apples,
00:27:04.000you know certain fruit fucks me I went around the corner.
00:27:06.000I wanted a nice veggie Thing and a pure vegetable juice.
00:27:10.000By the way celery in a fucking vegetable juice blows because it just dominates the entire juice I hate it.
00:27:15.000It's great for cleaning out your system though.
00:27:20.000Oh, okay Celery juice is one of the best juices like if you have to take a shit and You know, I've been constipated because I've been on a new medication that's supposed to cause diarrhea, but I have not been shitting.
00:28:23.000I just, I mean, isn't that a, that's a thing with, like, Vicodin and a lot of those painkillers, it gives you constipation?
00:28:30.000Yeah, I've only taken Vicodin once after I had my sinuses fixed.
00:28:35.000But the prep I took, and I don't have any more of them, and I'm like, I'm gonna go back and see the guy, and I don't even know if I'm gonna do it again.
00:28:41.000I just, at one point I was being crazy, so I'm like, I just wanted to make sure I don't get that.
00:28:45.000Yeah, you know, I would rather have some kind of a I know I wouldn't be on it forever, right?
00:28:49.000But I'm like while I'm fucking acting like an ass Let me at least One of the podcast episodes that I took the most amount of heat for early in the day was I did a podcast with a guy named Peter Dewsburg He's a biologist out of the University of California Berkeley and he's a very respected biologist.
00:29:07.000He's done a lot of great work on cancer and But he's got a very controversial take on HIV, and he does not believe that HIV causes AIDS. He thinks that HIV is evidence of a weak immune system.
00:29:22.000And he thinks that when people have HIV, it's because their immune system is compromised.
00:29:29.000It's not that HIV compromises their immune system.
00:29:32.000And he feels like all these people that are catching AIDS and getting HIV, what's happening is they're doing a lot of party drugs.
00:29:40.000They're doing amyl nitrate and crystal meth.
00:29:43.000And that's very, very prevalent inside the gay community.
00:29:45.000You know, gay guys party a ton, right?
00:29:49.000And he points to the high correlation between all these people doing these party drugs and HIV. His work is widely criticized amongst legitimate scientists, and most people just do not agree with him.
00:31:07.000Is he saying we all have it, or you can catch it?
00:31:11.000No, he's not saying we all have it, but he's saying you can catch it, but he's saying The evidence of it is only in people that have a weakened immune system.
00:31:20.000Again, this is not something I believe, ladies and gentlemen.
00:31:24.000Because then you have kids like Ryan White, where there's a million different cases of people who obviously got it in very weird ways, or again, through blood transfusions, or they were born with it.
00:31:34.000Well here it says, Arthur Ashe says he believed he contracted HIV, the viruses causes AIDS, through a transfusion of tainted blood during his second round of heart bypass surgery in 1983. First learned of his infection.
00:31:48.000Now here's the other issue that Peter Duisburg was saying, was that what they were giving people when they first tested positive for HIV was AZT. And that AZT is a medication they used to use for chemotherapy, but they stopped using it for chemotherapy because it was killing people quicker than cancer was killing people.
00:32:07.000I mean, it was just a brutal, brutal drug.
00:32:09.000And they had a bunch of it in his mind.
00:32:12.000They had a bunch of it laying around after that, and they decided to try to use it on AIDS patients.
00:32:20.000And you wonder, and I guess the conspiracy thing is like the pharmaceutical company had all these drugs that they wanted to get rid of and needed, or do they think that, hey, they were just trying to do something?
00:32:40.000And AIDS back then was essentially a death sentence.
00:32:43.000But there was a lot of people that didn't do anything that got AIDS, that got HIV... And never got AIDS. They just took care of their body and took a holistic approach and used nutrition.
00:32:54.000I just think it's super controversial, like anything else.
00:32:56.000I mean, there's people that get cancer and don't die.
00:33:12.000No, I thought his was, they said, a fairly curable one that he had listened to his friends and tried to go so holistic, and they said if he had gone and just had it treated, he probably would have survived it.
00:33:23.000Well, there's probably a lot of that going on.
00:33:26.000There's always a lot of fucking wacky people with their wacky ideas about holistic medicine.
00:33:30.000Dude, I saw a guy do a TED Talk on basically saying, like, strawberries are really good because they cause their anti-angiogenesis or something, which is about it stops the production of new blood vessels, and that's what feeds cancer.
00:33:44.000Like, he literally had me convinced you could eat fucking strawberries and not get cancer in large quantities.
00:33:49.000So, I mean, if you hear somebody talk who really knows what they're talking about, even if they're wrong...
00:33:53.000A lot of people are convinced by that.
00:33:54.000Well, that's one of the problems with YouTube videos, right?
00:33:57.000Where people have wacky conspiracy theories.
00:33:58.000As long as they speak with big words and they say things in complete sentences and they sound articulate, you start to believe them.
00:34:06.000The one thing that has been proven to be effective with cancer, some forms of cancer, is ketogenic diets, diets where you're fat-based, where you eat a lot of avocados and coconut oil, and your body burns those rather than glucose.
00:34:24.000So to starve them, you go on a very low-sugar diet and a very high-fat diet, and apparently there's real science that shows There's some benefits to that.
00:34:36.000But it's only certain kind of cancers.
00:34:37.000Yeah, certain kind of cancers it doesn't affect at all.
00:34:39.000Certain kind of brain cancers it doesn't affect at all.
00:34:41.000It doesn't matter what the fuck you do.
00:36:38.000Yeah, yeah Revelation came with the end of the southern transplant mark boo boo boo boo say that name peru squee pera perus Aperic wait, that's cool.
00:36:49.000Yeah Praskia Praskia Praskia Praskia Praskia front-page story rr r u s q u I a Praskia Front page story, Thursday in the Memphis Commercial Advocate.
00:37:04.000Peace paints a vivid picture of the life-saving operation, although it takes most of the details about jobs from the Walter Isaacson biography, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:39:07.000He was not stressed unless he swallowed it and never showed it, but he seemed like a very zen guy.
00:39:14.000And it was something with his went in for a breathing thing and just died I guess on the table and I don't have the details fuck man, but yeah, he was not that old I mean it was like you know 64 when you're I'm 49 so when you're someone 64 That's fucking that's a graspable age.
00:39:28.000I wonder like you know obviously There's so many different factors that play into the lifespan, the difference between lifespans today, lifespans 100 years ago, 200 years ago.
00:39:39.000And obviously there's been some big advances in medicine.
00:39:42.000But I wonder how much our diet plays on the amount of cancer.
00:39:48.000I mean, it's got to have a huge factor.
00:39:49.000All the sugar, all the bullshit people eat, all the preservatives, smoking, pollution.
00:39:56.000They say that just living in a city can take up to 10 years off your life.
00:40:00.000That's also probably, like, it's probably the air and it's probably the stress, too, because people in the city are just, are stressed.
00:40:06.000Yeah, I'm sure all that stuff goes into it.
00:41:16.000We have this workout equipment, and when we wipe the workout equipment, like if we go back there right now and put a wet paper towel to that reverse hyper machine, the top of it, it's all black.
00:42:18.000So if you're, now I wonder if it's the same in Manhattan.
00:42:20.000I'm sure it is, but, or maybe because Manhattan has less, you probably have a lot less cars going by your street in Manhattan than you do there.
00:42:39.000Everybody a mile from the highway is getting poisoned.
00:42:42.000Jesus you hope it but how old is that study and is it still happening as much like our our break our breaks made me better now than they were a Few years ago.
00:42:55.000They're they're the same fucking things They've always had these pads they press down they wear out you got to replace them and when they're wearing out They're grinding down that powder isn't going anywhere, right?
00:43:04.000Someone should probably figure out a way how to contain that I mean it seems like What we're doing now is it just it just goes out into the atmosphere.
00:43:13.000Maybe they should be like contained like where the powder the brakes would work the same way But the powder would have to be like sucked up into some sort of a pouch or something You have to change it like a filter.
00:43:25.000How often would you have to change it?
00:43:26.000Probably all the time, but that seems like That would be like a real viable alternative like some sort of encased brake thing You know, I mean, that doesn't seem like outside of the realm of engineering.
00:43:38.000Well, can they make the breaks, if that sounds unfeasible, can they make the breaks out of something that's actually just not as bad for you?
00:43:44.000Is there anything they can do that might be a little bit of a fix?
00:44:45.000Yeah, the issue is it has to get into your body.
00:44:48.000But I know that people get sick all the time from having a cut and then getting someone's blood in their cut.
00:44:56.000That's happened to people in hospitals that have done surgery and cut their finger while they're doing it and they get infected by the blood of someone else.
00:46:25.000It probably is harder to get unless you have a cut on your dick and she has a cut in her pussy and they happen to just go airtight against each other.
00:48:46.000Yeah, he probably should've kept his mouth shut about that, but she was like, Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't she suffering from some serious mental illness, like some ruthless bipolar type shit?
00:52:52.000I've interviewed people and they don't remember me, but I get that because I've done radio shows and I don't know who the fuck you are ten minutes later.
00:53:14.000Did he get shot in the eye or something?
00:53:16.000I don't know how his eye, I believe he got shot or he did something like that was in a children's story, like there was something similar in his real life when he went to jail, like that rapid children's story, but I don't know exactly how his eye went.
00:53:28.000I thought he had an interesting story for that, but maybe he didn't.
00:53:32.000I interviewed Coolio before he won Fear Factor, and the last stunt that he won, he was telling me that this is already over, he's already done this, he's lived a thousand lives and a thousand universes, and he was just so barbecued.
00:55:06.000I think they didn't do any gross stuff this time around.
00:55:09.000That's because the lawyers probably got involved.
00:55:10.000They probably now, it's corporate, and the lawyers are probably like, oh, you know, and then they're, like, worried about lawsuits, and no matter what you sign, they're still going to sue.
00:55:17.000So the lawyers probably chopped a lot of that shit out, or they couldn't get insurance.
00:55:19.000Well, with NBC, the second iteration of Fear Factor in like, what was it, like 2012 or something like that, and we did it again?
00:55:28.0002011, 2012. When we did it again, they were off, I think it was 11. They did it, it was off the deep end scary.
00:58:15.000Why don't you get in their head and you just tell them, like, look, you just put one foot in front of the other and just don't entertain any thoughts of quitting.
00:58:31.000Whereas if you can just force yourself to push those aside and don't entertain those thoughts at all, you can get through a lot of things you can't get through.
00:58:57.000It's like if you get your mind accustomed to convincing your body that enough is enough, and then you start entertaining those thoughts and thinking of those thoughts more than thinking about concentrating on the task at hand, you start thinking about, boy, if I just quit now,
00:59:24.000Like, you see a lot of times, Before fights, we've had several instances over the course of the history of the UFC. Most of the time it doesn't happen, but several instances where people get anxiety attacks.
00:59:36.000And you could attribute that to a lot of different things, right?
00:59:39.000You could say, well, some people just have anxiety, and well, what is an anxiety attack?
00:59:43.000Well, some people believe that a lot of what's happening is...
00:59:47.000The mindset that you're entering into a fight with and that you're allowing your mind to just sort of run rampant rather than corralling it and Channeling your mind into very distinct pathways like very distinct pathways of only beneficial thoughts and You will vacillate and deviate from those thoughts but always bring it back to those very Important thoughts and to have some sort of a mantra like you are here to do your very best That's it and all thoughts of quitting
01:00:24.000Don't stop it Don't entertain those thoughts And there's a guy named David Goggins, we've talked about him on the podcast almost too much, but he's a very famous endurance athlete who's a, I think he's a Navy SEAL. And he has the world record for the most amount of chin-ups in a day.
01:01:22.000Yeah, and I think that's absolutely accurate.
01:01:24.000Yeah, I think about that all the time.
01:01:27.000I think about all the time when I'm on a hard run.
01:01:29.000Like, you got to know when you're running like hills in particular, you got to know when you're just fucking exhausted and you're running the risk of falling down and you really can't breathe right.
01:01:57.000But when is it failing and when are you quitting?
01:02:00.000Because there's some uncomfortable moments where my heart's like 150, 160, where if I was feeling like a pussy, I'd be like, let me just take a break here and breathe.
01:02:31.000Like say if you were watching Platoon and you're running on a treadmill and it's right in front of you or Apocalypse Now and you're listening to it.
01:04:20.000I mean, running is definitely a good thing as long as you're doing it the right way and running on the balls of your feet and not on the heel.
01:07:04.000I was watching season two again of The Ultimate Fighter, and there's one thing where they do, like, how long, how many rotations around the heavyweight can, I think they were either a middleweight or a welterweight do, where he climbs on top of the heavyweight.
01:07:27.000I mean, it was fucking like a hundred or two hundred times that went around.
01:07:32.000The ability to hold somebody else up is just...
01:07:34.000But see, the thing about something like that is doing a contest like that, you got to realize that person's blown their body out for days after that.
01:07:41.000If that's not something you're accustomed to and you're doing on a daily basis, That's like doing a chin-up contest, like David Goggins.
01:07:49.000If you do that, don't plan on fighting in a week, because your arms are going to be blown out.
01:07:57.000It's definitely a good skill to have, but doing something like that You could do it one time to find out what your max is, but don't plan on recovering from that anytime soon.
01:08:08.000That's the thing about people and injuries.
01:08:10.000One of the big problems with injuries with MMA fighters, jiu-jitsu people, a lot of people, is overtraining.
01:08:16.000Meaning, you're not prepared for what you're doing.
01:08:19.000I have a friend, my friend Cam Haynes runs a marathon a day.
01:09:12.000So like doing something like that where you're doing like these rotations around someone or you're doing like how many times you climb to the top of a 30-foot rope, you know, someone's doing something like that.
01:09:20.000If that's not something you do all the time and you just try to do it once like on a television show for funsies, you could fuck yourself up.
01:09:31.000Yeah, no, I'm just saying things along those lines like when you're trying to do as many as you can, anytime you're doing as many as you can, like how many bodyweight squats can you do?
01:09:41.000Maybe a hundred, you know, like, okay, let's see if you can get to 500. Good luck walking for the last couple days if you try to do that.
01:13:25.000Jim Florentine is hilarious, and what he used to do is he'd make his girlfriend mixtapes of all these romantic songs, and he would put fucking bits from The Day the Laughter Died, and The Day the Laughter Died in just a line or two.
01:13:36.000He'd play a really nice song, and then, I want to eat your cunt in a big red chair, and then a nice song.
01:13:42.000You're about as funny as a glass of milk.
01:14:21.000I did a show there once where I think my spot was probably like at 9 o'clock, and I got there at 8.30, and there was just a couple of comics hanging out at the bar.
01:16:20.000So that day the laughter died for comedians, there was a guy named Mike Donovan, who's a Boston comedy legend, a fucking hilarious, hilarious comedian.
01:16:28.000And he is the one who told me about the day the laughter died, didn't he?
01:16:31.000We were at the back of the Comedy Connection, and he was just laughing until he was crying, talking about Dice doing an impression of Nixon while he's eating ass.
01:16:46.000I mean he was doing a Nixon impression while he's eating ass and for whatever reason Mike Donovan thought it was the funniest thing he'd ever heard in his life.
01:17:05.000It's beautiful that he did that because there is a flow to it, but it's the greatest watching a comic's mind just fucking randomly bounce from joke to joke to bomb to joke and just really exploring and grabbing for shit.
01:17:19.000Yeah, and there's no material preparation.
01:17:41.000They're like, this sucks, what is this?
01:17:42.000But Chris Rock was at the cellar one night, and I forget how, and he goes, the best comedy album ever, or one of them, he said, I'll have to die by Angela.
01:17:50.000Yeah, but that's also the best comedy album for him.
01:18:45.000Just dig in on people and they wouldn't know whether to laugh or be upset and it would be like it was almost angry at them for being alive.
01:18:53.000He described women's tits and he goes, look at those big fat fucking motherfucking fat fucking tits.
01:19:00.000And it was really dirty, but I'm like, my God, that's emotionally the best description of tits.
01:19:09.000You can't get the words that will describe the lust of big breasts more than fat fucking motherfucking fat fucking.
01:19:16.000There was something so guttural about that.
01:19:17.000I'm like, that's the greatest description of tits anybody's ever given as far as emotionally for a guy.
01:19:22.000Well, you know what Dice did, too, that nobody else had ever done before or since, is he created punchlines that everybody wanted to repeat.
01:19:51.000Like Robin Williams did in the album called Reality With A Concept, which was the first dirty album I ever had, was Robin Williams' Reality With A Concept before or even prior.
01:21:22.000He went out, and Kurt Loder was on TV talking about how unfunny, terrible unfunny period jokes.
01:21:29.000You know, it's like, but it was this air of like pompousness, like when he was talking about this, like this progressive, you know, Kurt Loder type character who was always like the guy who told you about the amazing cool new bands, was telling you that Dice is just terrible and unfunny and he'll never be on MTV again.
01:21:48.000And I remember thinking that, like, whoa, they banned him from Saturday Night Live.
01:21:51.000They banned him from MTV. He didn't give a fuck.
01:21:56.000Well, Kenny, again, Kenny told me that the guy...
01:23:02.000You know, like you talk to someone who lives in a small town about a small town and the stuff that he does in that town, that motherfucker can remember everything.
01:23:17.000I was fucking, I'll tell you one of the most nervous I've ever been was when I took the, just to digress for a second, was to take the, I was so convinced I had HIV, and I fucking took this oral test that you can get from CVS. And there's a weird thing where you just, they said it's like a good up until the last three months.
01:24:02.000Only for a second, because I literally thought I saw the beginning of a second line, and I remember closing it, and I'm like, I have HIV. I was fucking convinced.
01:25:21.000Where it's not visible, because they can knock it down to where it's undetectable, and I really do think you can't pass it then, because there are drugs that you won't be able to pass it, and PrEP, you won't be able to get it.
01:25:31.000But I still think you're obligated to say it.
01:25:33.000You're obligated to say it, and then you let that person make the decision.
01:25:58.000What I heard about the blackmail, and I really wish I knew who was blackmailed, but I don't, was that somebody got a picture of medication in his medicine cabinet.
01:26:07.000I heard there was a video of him sucking a guy's dick.
01:26:41.000I think that at a certain point in time when you're doing that kind of drugs, like you're doing crazy disassociative Piles of blow and you're fucking, you don't know where the fuck you are.
01:27:33.000Well, do you remember he wrote an open letter to President Obama?
01:27:36.000He's a big fan of Alex Jones, and a friend of Alex Jones.
01:27:43.000Alex Jones called me up, hey man, Gary Busey wants to talk to you!
01:27:47.000And he gave the phone to fucking Gary Busey, and Gary Busey talked to me, and he's like, I mean, Gary Busey's completely out of his fucking mind.
01:29:00.000That's fucking, the way they call it, TBIs, a traumatic brain, that fucking wide-open look that you get.
01:29:05.000When you see guys with both eyes like that, they're fucking cooked.
01:29:07.000Well, there's a little bit of that, but I believe there's structural damage to his actual skull itself.
01:29:11.000I think, I'm almost positive that he hit the curb without a helmet, is when L.A. didn't have helmet laws, and he wiped out And curbed his fucking brain and was lucky to be alive, if I remember correctly.
01:29:26.000Yeah, I don't remember when that was, but...
01:30:25.000Did you get nervous when you got in the car?
01:30:26.000No, I've driven with you before, but if I didn't know you, I might.
01:30:29.000But just having a Porsche is just known as somebody who's going to move.
01:30:33.000That car in particular, because it's so loud and so bouncy and But I figured you had a lot more to lose than I do, so I figured you'd be driving safe.
01:30:42.000You don't want to drive with a guy who has nothing.
01:33:01.000There's a bunch of guys that I've had sex with in the past, and I like them, and they pay me, and I'll go over there, and it's almost like people I really like, and I have sex with them.
01:33:11.000And I say, like, how many times a week?
01:33:12.000She goes, I only need to do it a few times a week, and I pay my bills.
01:33:15.000You know, girls like that, after I stopped going on certain sites, girls like that who I knew, it was important to me, like, I knew their lives.
01:33:23.000Like, I knew who they were, I knew their real names.
01:33:26.000Like, you know what a person's life is.
01:33:28.000And they're just choosing to do this on the side, because A, you have a chemistry with them and they like you, and B, some of them are just dirty.
01:33:34.000I've met plenty of people that are just dirty and enjoy it.
01:33:36.000Well, I didn't know her too well, and I didn't ask too many questions, but from what she was saying, It's essentially like, you know, she had done porn, she didn't want to do porn anymore, and she didn't want to be just a quote-unquote hooker, but she had a few guys that wanted to have sex and would be willing to pay her,
01:33:53.000and I guess they would pay her a couple thousand bucks, and she would just have sex with these guys a couple times a week, different guys, and she'd make four or five thousand dollars a week, and she wouldn't have to worry about shit, and she could do whatever she wanted to do for as long as her body holds up.
01:36:29.000I know I know a woman who's a very smart woman and when she was younger she had done and she's an artist and she had done some sex work But it was just like she fucked some guys for money and like it for her was like easier than working Yeah, and I'm not saying I think it should be legalized.
01:36:44.000I think that people should be able to do that.
01:37:56.000And it's also like you didn't write it for other people to hear.
01:38:00.000And there's things you say to your friends, right, that if they took out of context, people would go, well, Jim Norton's a fucking asshole.
01:38:08.000Like, even in jest, like this thing that I did with Ari, you know, where I sent him a text message and then I put it on Instagram.
01:38:15.000I thought pretty obvious that it was in jest, but so many people thought it was real.
01:38:20.000Like, the context of your friendship and people who don't understand, they don't know you, and then there's also the comedian factor.
01:38:27.000Like, the way we talk to each other on a regular basis is so different than the way a lot of folks can, because if you're working in a fucking office job, 9 to 5 every day, you're controlled by human resources and the office standards of behavior.
01:38:42.000You have to follow some sort of firing guidelines of what you can get terminated for.
01:38:49.000Those people are on the edge and tiptoeing on fucking...
01:39:00.000And I'm fucking, I'm a fucking dirty comic, and I'm more careful around the women there than half of the fucking newscasters you hear about getting shit.
01:39:07.000It's like, if I know that as a fucking dirtbag, you don't fucking hit on the women at work.
01:39:21.000It's not that they were hitting on them.
01:39:23.000I mean, office environments are just...
01:39:24.000Whitney Cummings has a very funny joke about that.
01:39:27.000I don't want to say it because it's one of her new bits about working in an office, but...
01:39:31.000There's so much sexual tension when you're stuck in a room with people for eight hours a day.
01:39:36.000And if two people are attracted to each other and they're working side by side on a daily basis, occasionally they test the waters and say fucked up things.
01:39:43.000And in saying those fucked up things, women are allowed to do whatever they want, essentially.
01:43:16.000But again, if I don't like you and if I'm not attracted to your scent, I have no desire for that.
01:43:20.000So that's how I know I'm meant to be with somebody.
01:43:22.000You know, Chris Ryan, Dr. Chris Ryan, a friend of mine, was telling me that women, when they're on birth control pills, their ability to smell whether or not a mate is sexually compatible with them gets hindered by the birth control pill.
01:43:48.000Like there's a literally a specific scent and that scent they think is not just like whether or not you're sexually attracted to someone's smell, but whether or not you're biologically compatible with them.
01:44:06.000There was a thing that they used to talk about, like people would have tests to see, I don't even know if it was legitimately scientifically valid, but they would have tests, like a blood test, and I remember people talking about this when I was in high school, like that married people would go and have these blood tests to see if they could,
01:44:24.000not pregnancy, no, no, no, not pregnancy, but whether or not they were compatible, like as far as like raising healthy kids.
01:44:33.000There was some weird, I mean it might have been some bullshit, Fake science that they tried to pass off back in the 70s and the 80s.
01:44:42.000But I distinctly remember people talking, this is like before I was anywhere near, blood type incompatibility.
01:44:50.000Blood types are categorized by A, B, and O. We're reading something here.
01:44:54.000And given the RH factor of positive or negative, ABO and RH incompatibility happens when a mother's blood type conflicts with that of her newborn child.
01:45:03.000It's possible for the mother's Red blood cells to cross into the placenta or fetus during pregnancy.
01:45:10.000Yeah, but that's incompatibility between a mother and a child.
01:45:13.000I think it's between a man and a woman and the way they have...
01:45:17.000It's probably bullshit, but it was something that people used to do a lot.
01:45:34.000I'm like, what if you love somebody and you want to get married to them and you find out that you take a blood test and it doesn't work out?
01:46:45.000Today's parent says that you should be getting blood tests for genetic screening because they can find out if you're going to have potential blood diseases.
01:47:00.000This was like an article that says tests you need to be getting before pregnancy and there's like a pre-pregnancy checkup For the man and the woman, right?
01:47:07.000Yeah, prenatal vaccinations and then sexually transmitted diseases you need to check for, too, and genetic screening, it says.
01:47:12.000So they just do, like, probably overall blood tests.
01:47:14.000Yeah, it's very interesting because you don't hear about that anymore.
01:47:17.000It's not like, you know, you don't hear about that from doctors.
01:47:22.000You don't hear about that when people are trying to get pregnant.
01:47:24.000You don't hear about that from newlyweds.
01:47:28.000Yeah, like getting blood tests to make sure that your kids would be healthy.
01:47:31.000Or I wonder now, though, if there's so much stress put on disease shit, like AIDS, that we still say get a blood test and get tested, and all this stuff is handled, but maybe we just don't talk about the other aspect of it because the big one is HIV or whatever.
01:47:43.000Or hey, like, you know, you gotta check to see what diseases your family has.
01:47:48.000Like, maybe we're still talking about it, but it's just not being phrased the same way.
01:47:51.000Well, this is why I don't think it's true, because we went to a very good doctor, and, you know, I have kids.
01:48:07.000I don't know about the science of all that stuff, and I just don't know why it was never discussed.
01:48:11.000But I do remember being a kid where that was a big deal, like, that a parent, these two parents would get a blood test before they got married to make sure they could have kids, and I just never hear about that shit anymore.
01:48:21.000Yeah, I don't even remember hearing about it back then, to be honest, but it does make sense.
01:48:25.000Like, hey, let's just see if there's going to be, like, if there's an obvious problem that will show up through the blood test.
01:48:30.000Well, how fucking weird is it that you could have a different kind of blood than me?
01:48:33.000Like, your blood might be A, and mine might be O. Like, your blood is in my body.
01:49:37.000Universal plasma donor has AB blood type.
01:49:42.000In general, Rh negative blood is given to Rh negative patients and Rh positive blood or Rh negative blood may be given to Rh positive patients.
01:49:52.000Universal red cell donor has type O. O negative blood type.
01:50:51.000I actually, yours is better because to me that's a more normal thing to be and then it's just a healthier thing without needing bells and whistles and fucking juggling and you know.
01:51:00.000Like if I see a woman with like perfect features and she's cold and she's not friendly and nice, I don't find her attractive at all.
01:51:07.000But a woman who's way less classically attractive, but she's very affectionate and very kind and sweet and fun to be around, I find that very attractive.
01:51:15.000That will vary for me from person to person.
01:51:17.000I can go with kind and sweet, or I can go with certain words I like when they say it.
01:51:21.000Some people just get it, and they know how to talk, and they know your fucking triggers, and it's just...
01:51:42.000Like, what, What is it about, like, trigger words and weird things and weird stuff that, like, gets you turned on?
01:51:49.000And is it how you're interfacing with the world?
01:51:52.000Is it how you're choosing to address all of your issues and that you can escape them with, like, really, like, crazy behavior?
01:51:59.000And that, like, maybe you have all these anxieties and neurosis and that through this really bizarre, dirty talk and freaky behavior, you can escape those because It's so naughty.
01:52:26.000The whole world you live in is different.
01:52:28.000And then you have all this kinky shit, and then you add addictions to dirty stuff.
01:52:33.000And so, like, whatever it is about, like, a girl saying something like this, she's gonna go with me on this crazy dirt, she's gonna fart in my mouth, yeah!
01:54:38.000That's what we were talking about earlier.
01:54:40.000Some of these gals, they get a little older, and all the pressure of the forbidden behavior, just the societal pressure, and all the things that led them to be that way in the first place come crashing down on them.
01:54:52.000For this scene, the two of them were on a bed, and they were eating each other's pussies, and there was a sound guy with the fuzzy mic that's on a stick that was hovering over him, and then there was another guy that was over there doing something.
01:55:07.000He was literally eating a sandwich while these girls were eating each other's pussies.
01:55:11.000And then there was a director, and then they were kind of aware that we were there watching, so she was sort of putting on this sort of self-conscious show And in between takes, they would go, okay, cut.
01:55:25.000And she would keep eating her pussy, and she would say something like, I love my job.
01:58:50.000He might be a guy who just can get his dick hard anywhere.
01:58:53.000Like, Nacho Vidal could literally fuck during a house fire.
01:58:56.000He's just one of those guys that nothing matters to him.
01:58:59.000You know, Rocco Sofredi, these guys, or Manuel Ferrara.
01:59:03.000These guys, the men impress me more than the women just because they have to keep their dick hard.
01:59:08.000And I don't know a lot of the newer guys.
01:59:10.000I just don't really watch as much with big names.
01:59:12.000But the fact that these guys can function under these conditions, whereas my dick...
01:59:16.000Is very very susceptible to having an issue.
01:59:19.000Well pre-viagra there were real superstars, right?
01:59:23.000There were real guys who were just freaks and now there's like chemically enhanced superstars.
01:59:27.000But even with viagra I've lost heart arms like I haven't taken Cialis in over a month I think maybe it's been three actually three or four months now I just stopped because my dick was horrible without it I'm like I can't even with it.
01:59:37.000It was like my dick was kind of half-masked I'm like you're training your body wrong, right?
01:59:41.000So I stopped taking you talk to someone to give you that advice What, to stop taking it?
02:00:11.000What's a genius thing that nature's done to make it so that there's all these different factors that keep you from getting erect, right?
02:00:18.000Nervousness, fear, anxiety, which makes sense, because you really shouldn't be concentrating.
02:00:25.000For a human male, sex is so overwhelmingly interesting, right, that if you could get it up in the face of danger, it would probably be terrible for your survival mechanisms.
02:01:04.000And the guy's fucking the girl, and like somebody came, like they were fucking outdoors, and there was a bad guy who was coming with a gun or something, and she said what she remembered is that they couldn't move, but she was like, I remember he stayed hard while he was inside me.
02:01:42.000But, like, the way you are, or the way other guys are, who are just like, hey, man, I kind of like this girl, and we connected, and it feels right.
02:02:03.000But other times I'm really comfortable.
02:02:06.000Sometimes on the radio, when we're going back, when there's no time to think, when there's like fucking six or seven comics in there and you're just being animals and everybody's moving and punching and shitting on each other, I'm very comfortable.
02:02:17.000Because there's no time to reflect or think.
02:02:20.000You're just kind of doing what you do comfortably.
02:02:22.000But in that environment, I realized that after, like, wow, I felt just really alive.
02:02:49.000Like, I think it's all shame-based, so I'm trying to, like, I figure if I talk about things, that helps.
02:02:55.000But if it doesn't, like, if it hasn't helped to the point where you're never comfortable now, at 49, it's like, boy, this, whatever this pattern is that you've followed your whole life.
02:03:14.000But that's why I'm asking you about yoga, and that's why I wanted to ask you about meditation, too.
02:03:19.000Just to wonder, like, maybe you can train your mind to relax when it comes to certain things, or train your mind to not entertain so many neurotic thoughts, or train your mind to concentrate on positive things and eventually build that up.
02:03:32.000The same way you build up endurance, like we were talking about those guys doing that exercise where we're circling a person through.
02:03:38.000You burn yourself out, unless you did it all the time.
02:03:41.000Or like my friend Cam who runs a marathon a day.
02:03:45.000Maybe you can do that also with your point of view.
02:03:48.000Maybe you can do that also with your mindfulness, with just thinking about the world itself around you.
02:03:53.000That you could maybe not entertain those same thoughts, these neurotic thoughts, Maybe it's akin to an endurance racer giving in to the idea of, oh, discomfort, and why don't I just quit now?
02:04:10.000Maybe these are mental patterns that you can stray away from, keep your mind on a positive track, and come up with some sort of really good ways of thinking about things.
02:04:21.000Because you're obviously a very smart guy, and you're obviously a very sensitive guy.
02:04:26.000You know, but if you let that thinking and that sensitivity sort of run amok without any control, without any discipline, that seems to be the issue.
02:04:34.000And I've had those issues myself in the past, which is one of the reasons why I bring it up.
02:04:38.000I mean, I'm way healthier now at this point in my life than I've ever been before because I've really worked at it and worked at...
02:04:47.000Being at peace and being calm and and then also I've worked at all the extraneous sort of influences that fuck with that and sort of eliminate them and then use exercise sort of as a drug in a lot of ways like there's a one of the reasons why I exercise so much is because if I don't it's not like a looks thing it's a mind thing like if I don't strain myself if I don't if I don't do something really difficult all the time you do it every day I
02:05:30.000This is one of the reasons why I thought about it way back in the day, because My dog would be so much calmer if I went and played with him for a few hours.
02:05:36.000If I took him for a walk and threw the ball and he ran around, he'd be chill.
02:05:40.000But if I didn't, he'd be like, come on, what's going on?
02:05:44.000No, I have a dog that doesn't get any exercise.
02:05:46.000He has physical requirements for him to be content.
02:05:49.000And I think people have physical requirements for them to be content too.
02:05:52.000But I think unlike people, or unlike dogs rather, people can go on these sort of downward mental spirals of self-hate, of self-analysis, of neurosis.
02:06:06.000Neurotic thinking of you can get yourself in these really bad patterns of like shitting on yourself or looking at yourself in a negative way You know and I think you tend to gravitate towards these negative things sometimes and then you you realize it and then you bounce back But it's like,
02:06:23.000what is causing you to gravitate towards them?
02:06:25.000And why can you never achieve just a few moments, like an hour or two, where you just chill?
02:06:30.000You could just sit at home and just read a book and have a cup of tea.
02:06:35.000Do you ever feel like that, where you're just comfortable and relaxed?
02:06:38.000You can watch a movie on Netflix and chill out?
02:07:10.000You sabotage things, and that's why you're so...
02:07:14.000And I've been going kind of up and down lately, but it's like whenever you're not doing something, it takes a while for you to adjust and go like, alright.
02:07:21.000When you feel something, now you've got to feel it.
02:07:23.000You can't feel it and then run and go on Eros.
02:07:43.000No, it's usually the same stuff around feeling like a failure, just the same shit that everybody has, the same feeling like, oh, I'm worthless.
02:07:49.000So I talked to her, and she was being nice, but she was not being helpful.
02:07:54.000And I didn't want her to rescue me, but I wanted her just simply to give some kind of an answer or trigger me to ask myself a question.
02:09:18.000Like the podcast, they're going to hate this week because we did it in LA and the women didn't know who Chip was and it was a very ugly experience.
02:11:16.000It's the only time I've ever been humiliated doing Chip.
02:11:21.000I was embarrassed and uncomfortable, and I also, like, this is what it's supposed to be.
02:11:27.000This guy stinks, and he's supposed to be disliked.
02:11:32.000Because people who are in on the joke love the joke, you know, and they get that the jokes are awful.
02:11:37.000So the fun part with people who love it is to at times give one, like my ex-girlfriend really knew Chip, and there was times I would do it when it was so bad and she would go, oh, even for you, that's fucking terrible.
02:15:17.000It was getting bad, and there was another producer in the studio named Paul, and he was videotaping it, and I think he had been on Roland's side, and he thought Opie was being a dick to him.
02:15:27.000He's like, you're being a dick to me, and Opie's like, yeah, because you chose Roland in this whole thing, like making it a public thing that was really uncomfortable, and then Paul goes, yeah, well, I thought it was wrong, and then Sherrod goes like, ah, he was having fun.
02:16:16.000I mean, it's just in a very weird place.
02:16:17.000The idea of paying money for these talk shows that are going to get interrupted by commercials and to have to listen to them only when they come on and not have them on demand, it's such an inferior distribution method.
02:17:42.000But the thing about it is that if you have your phone Bluetooth up, literally all you have to do is press play, and it'll immediately play whatever episode.
02:19:43.000It's like almost like investing and I mean if you're if you're someone who's got a piece of that It's like where's that going?
02:19:49.000Like how are you gonna keep you can't even use it in a tunnel?
02:19:52.000You know the thing was serious and this is this is like a scary for job security But they're really Scott is good at getting big-name talent like a Beatles channel and all this stuff there And they're good at getting good good name big-name people doing shows like Ferguson's on their channel.
02:20:08.000Yeah, I know faction We're those are on faction now Faction Talk.
02:20:12.000Yeah, I hate the name because it doesn't say comedy, but whatever, it is what it is.
02:20:15.000It's us, and then Camino and Rich, and then Ellis, and then Craig, and then Nick DiPaolo, who has a very funny show.
02:21:02.000I remember watching the one blowout that they had, where Nick was trying to do some read that they had to do, and Artie just wanted to kind of fuck off.
02:26:12.000It was so good, but you just go right back into that and Sam is so perfect in that moment, too.
02:26:19.000You just kind of go back into it and you flow and, you know, so I miss him a lot, but...
02:26:24.000Uncensored conversations, they're just hard to come by and when you're under the corporate umbrella, you're not really uncensored.
02:26:31.000There's always going to be something that you can't say, something that can get you in trouble, which is why I was always encouraging you to do a podcast, like even way back in the day.
02:26:56.000You know, I mean, I know you love doing the Sam and Jim show, too, but I really feel like even that show would be bigger if it was just accessible to everybody and not on Sirius.
02:27:06.000And again, we have one more year left on the contract, and it is something I would do as a podcast.
02:27:10.000It absolutely is something I would do as a podcast.
02:27:13.000But they don't want to say one thing in their favor, besides the fact, like, yeah, there's human resources, and, you know, you can't go around fucking grabbing clits.
02:27:41.000And what sunk, what almost happened was that made it to fucking Breitbart and then got onto Drudge and then became a big deal.
02:27:49.000And I heard later that the people who were making that a story were the people who worked in terrestrial radio who did not want that merger to happen.
02:27:58.000So the only reason the company pulled them off is they were literally scared that it was going to hurt whatever they needed in Congress to make the merger happen.
02:29:35.000I'll walk around and talk to myself in full-blown conversation.
02:29:40.000I'm actually embarrassed to admit this.
02:29:42.000I took a shit today and I got up and I was done and I went to the fucking to look at my computer and I had to shit again immediately and I stood up and out loud I said, oh that just jostled a little more loose and I walked back to the toilet.
02:30:29.000It's like things that just kind of come out, or I work through things, or I work through this girlfriend's argument, you know, whatever it is in the moment, and I logically talk things through.
02:30:38.000But yeah, that's where a lot of the character shit comes from, is I'll start thinking of it, or I'll talk in a weird voice, and there'll be something that resonates with me, and I'm like, ugh, I'm stuck in my fucking head, man.
02:30:47.000And once it's stuck in my head, then I bring it out on the air, and that's when it gets stuck in everybody else's head.
02:30:52.000Like, if it's bothering me for a month, you're gonna hate it.
02:30:55.000You know, and I like to bring that stuff...