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00:02:44.000At my house, I have a framed poster that's the cover of the Roswell Daily News that shows the day after the Roswell crash where it says that the Air Force came and recovered the wreckage.
00:02:57.000I've been obsessed with this shit since I was a little kid.
00:03:47.000Yeah, and they also time travel, which is different than what people think in like a movie where they sit in a machine and you're in the 1930s and you've got to go save humanity.
00:03:56.000When you use the technology, there's a time difference between...
00:04:03.000What they're doing inside of an artificially created bubble of gravity of sorts and then what's on the outside.
00:04:10.000So if you're on the inside of one of those machines, everything would be skewed more black and white.
00:04:15.000There would be like a redshift and everybody would look frozen.
00:04:19.000So you literally could fly around and grab a Coke out of someone's hand and put it in someone else's hand.
00:04:58.000He's the creator of the CIA Psychic Spy Program, but he also has done really exotic, advanced, forefront propulsion work for the past decades and decades, actually.
00:05:11.000I mean, he's deep into the quantum this and that.
00:05:15.000So he's the one that actually told me about the redshift.
00:05:45.000So Steve Justice was head of advanced programs at the Skunk Works, and the Skunk Works are who built, you know, The famous secret bases you hear about, Skunk Works did, you know, the U-2 spy plane, the SR-71 Blackbird, the F-117 Stealth Fighter.
00:07:00.000So when you look at the people that are a part of my company, it's Undersecretary of Defense and Senior Intelligence Service.
00:07:07.000Is there a list of these people that we could see?
00:07:10.000Yeah, I thought you guys would have had that.
00:07:11.000Yeah, but I mean, is there like a list where folks could see it online?
00:07:15.000Yeah, they can go to tothestarsacademy.com and scroll down and you'll be able to see who they all are.
00:07:22.000So how did you get linked up with all these people?
00:07:25.000That story might be a better way to start because a lot of people don't know this part of the story and I think you're going to find it pretty fucking funny.
00:07:33.000Okay, so we'll back up a couple years.
00:07:36.000I started the band Blink, and Blink went places.
00:07:42.000But we always had a weird band relationship, like most bands.
00:07:47.000And we also thought that we would never be big, so we started companies on the side.
00:07:51.000And I had a company that incubated a lot of small startups, like software and apparel and hardcore skate surf companies and stuff like that.
00:08:00.000Well, I learned a lot from that, and I pulled out an entertainment startup called To The Stars, and I knew I was going to be doing kind of like science fiction franchised stories, just like Disney, but science fiction for adults.
00:08:14.000And what that means is, you know, I make a story, I title it, I brand it, and I put out the book, and I put out the merchandise, and I go make a movie, you know?
00:08:21.000And it's a vertically integrated kind of model.
00:08:25.000Well, one of the stories I knew I wanted to put out was Secret Machines, which was kind of a historical fiction, but based on real events about the UFO phenomenon.
00:08:35.000But I also knew that I knew shit That most people don't know.
00:08:39.000Because I've studied it for so long, and I happened to put some pieces together that most people don't put together.
00:08:45.000So before I came out with that book, and before I came out with the plan to take that, make major motion pictures and all that kind of stuff, I knew I needed to ask permission.
00:09:33.000So that started me out near D.C. taking some other high-level meetings.
00:09:37.000And there was somebody at a very high level that...
00:09:41.000That closed the door, looked me in the eye and says, okay, I'm going to introduce you to somebody.
00:09:45.000And that person comes to San Diego, puts me on the phone with a general.
00:09:51.000And the general is listening to my little stump speech about what I want to do with this franchise.
00:09:55.000Because I definitely didn't want to, you know, I wasn't looking to like force disclosure and I wasn't looking to be rogue and break secrets.
00:10:02.000I was like, look, I know what's going on here.
00:10:05.000And you guys are doing a kick-ass job, and I would have done the exact same thing should I have been the guy at the top that had to make some really hardcore decisions 70 years ago.
00:10:21.000All these people are just coming up with a bunch of bullshit to say, oh, you know, they don't want us to know or we can't handle it or it's all about oil and money and all this weird shit.
00:10:29.000But you had put these pieces together independently.
00:10:37.000You know, people think that like places like the CIA and the DIA, all these intelligence organizations have, you know, a monopoly on information.
00:10:45.000They get their information from the real world, too.
00:10:48.000You know, they do have access to, you know, archives of information.
00:10:52.000They do have access to some amazing, you know, satellite data and stuff like that.
00:10:58.000But if you're smart and you take your time, you know where to look and you find patterns, you can pretty much put together all the same shit they can.
00:12:16.000And everything that they did and every decision they made at the time was because of the consciousness of the Cold War.
00:12:22.000And why has this guy decided to meet with you at an airport?
00:12:24.000Because the only way you meet with these people, the only way you ever would have anyone talk to you is if you can provide a service that they need.
00:12:31.000And my service was pretty interesting to them because I said, look, you guys, you struggle with saying disclosure.
00:12:39.000You want to tell everybody everything, which I don't think everyone should know everything.
00:12:43.000And then you say, they can't handle it, so don't tell them anything.
00:12:45.000And I'm like, there's a middle road there.
00:12:47.000And here's the way I would do the middle road.
00:14:22.000Essentially, it's the book, Secret Machines, where you have a lot of private finance, you have some world bankers, and you have a lot of people internationally working together To figure out a plan of how to push back against something that's been coming here for a very long time,
00:14:40.000but using off-the-books finances and using mechanisms that we're not totally aware exist.
00:14:48.000And what people have to realize is, you know, the UFO phenomenon isn't a phenomenon.
00:14:55.000The universe is fucking gigantic and there's life everywhere.
00:15:02.000And there's a lot of life that's way more advanced than we are.
00:15:06.000And just like Voyager left our solar system, a little dinky satellite from the 70s, and just like my company is going to be building, you know, this electromagnetic craft that really can do the same thing to time that I've been telling you about,
00:15:21.000other civilizations have that too, which means you can traverse those distances of space.
00:15:26.000And what you have to think about is what happened when we first discovered that and what did we do about it?
00:15:32.000And there's no, you know, you got to look at 47 in a very peculiar way.
00:15:37.000Ninety days after the Roswell event, the CIA was created.
00:15:40.000The Air Force was separated from the Army.
00:15:41.000The National Security Act was created.
00:15:43.000And all those things are mechanisms to start learning more and to start getting private industry off the ground.
00:15:48.000So that had nothing to do with World War II. You think it had to do with aliens?
00:16:51.000These regular dudes without access to communication like you have, how have they managed to disseminate this information and sort of confuse everybody?
00:16:59.000I think, well, I don't know how they did it.
00:17:02.000I do know that they infiltrated UFO groups.
00:17:04.000That was the very first thing they did in the 50s.
00:17:07.000Sort of like how FBI agents and undercover cops infiltrated Occupy Wall Street and pretended to be radical hippies and started fights.
00:17:16.000They get access to what the civilians are learning, how information transfers from one group to another, and then they start deflecting all their knowledge and putting in leaks and this and that and getting them off the main track, not because of disdain for citizens and not because Of any other reason than picture ISIS. We don't know what ISIS is.
00:17:39.000They got a nuclear bomb and we caught a guy trying to sneak in this bomb.
00:17:44.000Are they going to stop and come sit on your couch and tell you all about it?
00:17:53.000You know, you're not going to fucking die, but we need to learn more about this and we got to figure it out before we sit down and talk to you about it.
00:18:32.000Just 25 years of reading shit and watching videos and studying physics and studying, you know, the secrecy acts and all that kind of weird shit.
00:18:40.000You know, you put it together and a lot of it's bad information.
00:18:43.000But after a long time, I realized I just realized what was going on.
00:18:49.000I've studied enough of international finance, some mechanisms that happened after World War II, what the Nazis were doing technologically that no one really talks about to this day.
00:19:01.000They were 100 years ahead of us about what their guys did at the end of the war in South America.
00:19:06.000And the paperclip, paperclip was like, there's two levels of paperclip.
00:19:10.000Paperclip is the operation that brought over all these ex-Nazis Into NASA and into all of our aerospace programs.
00:19:19.000Well, because they knew some shit that was very important.
00:19:23.000And we said there might be a bigger issue out there to deal with, so why don't we side with the devil or side with someone bad because there might be a devil out there.
00:19:35.000I thought it was about competing with Russia to try to advance rocketry.
00:19:39.000I believe that there was, you know, I believe that there's a reason why the Cold War never got hot is because we're working with Russia on this specific issue.
00:19:50.000You think the reason why the Cold War never turned into an actual war?
00:19:55.000So it had nothing to do with the fact that Russia was a communist empire and essentially we outspent them and they really went under and collapsed.
00:20:10.000Does that mean the CIA did it or the DOD did it or Homeland Security did it?
00:20:15.000You're dealing with, it's a trillion dollar organization.
00:20:18.000It's like if somebody in Apple leaks an iPhone, you know, are you going to say, oh my god, Apple is doing, Apple's like, well shit, we're a $800 billion company.
00:20:28.000We have so many things going on worldwide.
00:20:30.000It's impossible to say the entire organization believes one thing.
00:20:34.000And the government's the same kind of way.
00:22:46.000I need people that are from different areas in the government because everyone has their own perspective.
00:22:51.000You have people at the National Reconnaissance Office that have a perspective based on the satellite feeds they're getting and these things are coming in and out of the atmosphere.
00:22:59.000Then you also have people from the agency That are worried about and collecting information of what's going on with people in different countries and here.
00:23:07.000But then you also have, you know, engineers that have a perspective on how the technology is made and what that might mean because there's a lot of consciousness stuff that falls in this category.
00:23:43.000They can pick up very, very specific heat signatures, and they have algorithms because what you have is a satellite is a device that can pick up what you program it to pick up.
00:23:56.000Now, you put a sensor on there, but you've got to tell the sensor what to do.
00:24:00.000So if the sensor says, look, something traveling at this speed with this kind of heat, you've got to record that, you've got to focus on it, and that's what we call an ICBM. But if something comes in and zigzags, stops, and turns left, and it's traveling 10 times faster than that, we need you to record that and focus in on that as well.
00:24:16.000But if something just is moving low and it's only going 300 miles an hour and it has these big wings and a low whatever, that's just a plane.
00:24:24.000So what it captures is based on how it's programmed.
00:24:54.000Episodic, meaning they have time periods?
00:24:57.000I saw a paper where the Department of Defense figured out a physicist there, an algorithm of how to compute when the things fly in and collect smaller ships, like motherships, small ships,
00:25:12.000at what longitude and latitude and essentially what orbit it would land at when it would collect these other machines.
00:26:29.000So I go out and I put the book out there and I start doing national radio, like the Art Bell, so Coast to Coast, where I do all that stuff.
00:26:35.000Next thing you know, I get approached by somebody at a certain agency.
00:26:39.000And that guy comes to San Diego and puts me in a small room.
00:26:44.000And I got what you would call interrogated for two days straight, saying...
00:27:03.000Everything I've been telling you today when you're dealing with there is a concerted international effort.
00:27:10.000To deal with this stuff and that was in my book and that is – it's not like Roswell crashed and it was not like – like all the typical UFO shit that people dwell on isn't the story.
00:27:22.000It's just that something crashed or someone saw – got abducted and saw this or someone pulled a little piece of metal out of their body.
00:27:28.000But no one has put together what we're doing about it because our countrymen since World War II aren't stupid.
00:28:46.000I mean, if somebody said, hey, we're going to have you in a room, we're going to talk to you for two days, I'm like, dude, I don't have two days.
00:29:00.000I'm saying, what are you guys looking for?
00:29:02.000They're going to just sit you down and ask you questions for two days because you put together this idea that somehow or another there's some sort of an international collaboration to deal with the threat of alien life?
00:29:36.000But I'm saying some pretty provocative shit.
00:29:39.000You've got to realize no one else has gone up there and talked about – once again, I'm in a tricky spot right now because a lot of what happened back then I can't really get into now because of the positions and the things I'm involved with.
00:30:32.000When WikiLeaks broke into John Podesta's emails and I was having video conferences and conference calls with – he was Obama's senior advisor at the time.
00:30:44.000So the Wall Street Journal broke the story like what's this rock star talking about UFOs with Hillary Clinton's campaign manager?
00:30:52.000No, he was Obama's senior advisor, so it had nothing to do with Hillary.
00:30:55.000So we were setting these up, and when that broke, I had to call up my partner from the CIA, and I said, you know, I had to say, now I can talk to you a little bit more about who these people are.
00:31:07.000And that's where I gained a really large amount of credibility with them, but also where they realized that we've got to figure out a better way to do this.
00:31:22.000Me and some very important people coming together to do something that I think is really beneficial to society.
00:31:28.000But we have a lot of work to do because a lot of people, they don't know what to think of it.
00:31:32.000At first they thought I was nuts when I was talking about my book.
00:31:34.000I'm all, oh, I got these advisors, you know.
00:31:36.000And then all of a sudden the Wall Street Journal broke this story and there's all these multi-star generals and head of some really big aerospace companies.
00:31:45.000Then the big news organizations were like – Holy shit, this might be real.
00:31:50.000A lot of kids still don't know and they're having fun on the internet.
00:31:54.000And then I came out a couple weeks ago on stage with all these people and now it's like, now all the big huge, I'm dealing with some crazy big mainstream press that we're trying to keep at bay for a variety of reasons.
00:32:36.000And then people will start to understand over time why they did what they did.
00:32:40.000They didn't lie to people Just out of, like, ego.
00:32:44.000They're like, okay, there's this group called ISIS, and they're here, and we need to understand them, and we need to fucking figure it out quick.
00:32:52.000But the problem is, these are extraordinarily advanced civilizations that have been coming here forever.
00:32:57.000That's why it's all in all the ancient fucking scripts and texts and carved into rocks and all that shit.
00:33:05.000But trying to figure it out, trying to connect the dots, and trying to...
00:33:10.000Debris that they probably still have in a warehouse and we have no fucking clue how to make this or back engineer this stuff.
00:33:18.000I mean there's a piece of metal from a crash that I've seen and I've seen the science on it and it's atomically aligned and it's layered in like 80 layers within just a few microns of purities of metal that aren't even in our solar system.
00:33:39.000They think it needs to be made in an area where there's no gravity.
00:33:43.000So number one, it has to be made in space.
00:33:44.000Number two, even if we were to create a machine that can potentially do some of this stuff, 3D printing layers of different metals of obscene purities, it would cost hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars.
00:34:09.000It resonates some kind of harmonic, and then it gets lighter.
00:34:13.000And if you hit it with enough terahertz, it'll float.
00:34:15.000So we're going to be showing people this stuff.
00:34:17.000We're going to be bringing out some of the hardware.
00:34:20.000We're going to be bringing out implants.
00:34:21.000We're going to be bringing out videos.
00:34:23.000We're going to be bringing out some other stuff.
00:34:24.000So you're going to be showing people this actual physical piece of metal that was constructed in a zero-gravity environment in space, and if you hit it with enough energy, it becomes weightless.
00:35:13.000And I was actually on a phone call today about it.
00:35:15.000I talked for about 45 minutes in the car on the way up here about some of the...
00:35:20.000How would they even be able to regulate whether or not they have a single electron?
00:35:24.000Well, fuck, they're doing crazier shit than that at CERN. At CERN, they're taking particles of atoms and they're speeding them up to light speed.
00:35:52.000They do that with photons too, by the way.
00:35:54.000I read a really cool study about single photons and consciousness was interacting with it just by thinking it was changing the way the photon went.
00:37:14.000But you're timing how fast it takes an electron to move over the surface of the metal, then you charge the metal, and then you're timing the exact same thing, and there will be different times.
00:37:24.000And the positive result is that it lost mass, so it traveled faster or slower or whatever the hell is supposed to happen.
00:37:31.000And so I would imagine that just this piece of metal, if it exists, would be kind of game over.
00:37:37.000If you brought this piece of metal to the most advanced scientists in metallurgy or whatever they would be that would understand this kind of shit.
00:37:52.000There's some of this stuff, not this piece in particular.
00:37:55.000They came out as arts parts on Arts Bell a long time ago, and they're different layers of business and magnesium.
00:38:01.000But this one came from a crash in 48, not the 47, and I know nothing more about it.
00:38:09.000But I don't think it's anything they're going to come in here with a chain of custody and say, this came from Air Force or something like that.
00:38:54.000And so we'll release the videos and we'll show the experiment as a proof of concept so everyone knows this shit's all real.
00:39:00.000Because right now they're just looking at a drawing and they're looking at this guy from the Skunk Works, you know, and just going, how the fuck are they going to build a machine that plays with time and plays with the fabric of space-time?
00:39:10.000And so we have to kind of educate people and say, it's possible, it's possible.
00:39:24.000So what that does, what the machine does that we're building is there's an electromagnetic...
00:39:30.000It's a wave that is the foundation of everything, of all mass, of everything.
00:39:35.000Some people call it zero-point energy.
00:39:37.000Some people call it the vacuum energy.
00:39:41.000But like one inch of air could power the United States for like hundreds of years kind of thing or maybe more.
00:39:46.000So what they've got to do is isolate very specific atoms to where all the noise of all matter and cell phones and everything that's going on on Earth can be separated from this one atom.
00:39:57.000And if you can do that with the right material, you can get access to that electromagnetic wave that's powering the atom.
00:40:05.000The invisible wave pattern that's under everything of all existence.
00:40:09.000And once you do that, it's not like splitting an atom.
00:44:26.000He got brought in for a job and during the interviews they said, we have another idea for you.
00:44:33.000And they put him in a place he claims had all these disks and he was on a back engineering team as a physicist.
00:44:40.000But what happened was they rushed him in there because, per his story, they tried to cut into one of the propulsion devices and it exploded and killed a bunch of scientists.
00:44:49.000So the Nevada test site, which is the area where Area 51 and all that stuff is, released a statement that they were just doing a small little nuke test.
00:44:56.000But it was really because of this thing.
00:44:58.000And so they rushed him in there without doing all of his background checks because it takes six months to a year.
00:45:03.000And during those background checks, he was already working on this stuff.
00:45:08.000They found that his wife was going a little haywire because he couldn't tell her what he was doing.
00:45:14.000And he would leave in the middle of the night.
00:46:24.000So he runs to the news station with George Knapp, who's another host on Coast to Coast, and he tells him what he's doing, and he just goes live on Las Vegas News, and it caught like wildfire across the world.
00:46:39.000And so then these guys grabbed him, put him in a room, put a gun to his head, and said, when we told you not to say anything, we didn't mean to say everything.
00:48:30.000Oh, well, Lawrence Livermore and JPL. JPL. Yeah, JPL's in Pasadena, yeah.
00:48:35.000Well, whatever it was, it was in New Mexico that they had found that he actually did work in the building, even though they tried to say that he didn't.
00:48:43.000So that he did something with somebody, and however much...
00:48:47.000Of his story was true always gets fishy when you find one thing that's not true, like that he didn't go to MIT. You know Stanton Friedman, who's a very famous UFO researcher.
00:48:59.000He's one of the main guys arguing that Bob Lazar is full of shit.
00:49:03.000You know what's interesting is there is a – I know the guy that did all the research on that, and I know the guy that studied it for decades, and he's actually writing a foreword on the book.
00:49:17.000The journalist is one like – Eight Peabody Awards and Emmys and shit.
00:49:22.000But George Knapp, who I told you about, and he's just got, like, he can speak for hours on that entire thing.
00:49:28.000He's always on the Coast to Coast show, right?
00:49:30.000Yeah, he does, like, a couple Sundays each month.
00:49:39.000Popular Mechanics article about it right here.
00:49:43.000Welcome Element 115. Now, what's your real name?
00:49:46.000Researchers create Element 115 in the lab for the second time overall in the first time in a decade, paving the way for its official status as a member of the periodic table.
00:49:56.000And so, Google Bob Lazar Element 115. Yeah.
00:49:59.000Because I would think that if he knew that, like, that long ago, like, that alone would make people want to take him more seriously.
00:50:05.000All the stuff that he said, well, first of all, we know that there is a Groom Lake.
00:50:09.000We know that there is an Area 51. We know they denied its existence, and so they wanted to expand the perimeter.
00:50:16.000Because people would sit on a ledge, and they would watch all these test flights of whatever the fuck they had, whatever it was they were doing, whether working on stealth bombers, whatever it was.
00:51:13.000Play some of that, though, because that dude's a trip.
00:51:15.000Because he's one of those weird guys where, even if you're a skeptical guy, you listen to Bob Lazar talking like, this guy's obviously smart as fuck.
00:51:38.000A particle is accelerated to high speed and then deflected up a small tube and it's aimed at the 115. This transmutes the 115, similar to the way we do that in a normal particle accelerator.
00:51:55.000This causes a reaction, a radiation emission that we really haven't seen before.
00:52:04.000This antimatter is guided down a tuned tube and reacts with a gas.
00:52:12.000When matter and antimatter react, they convert to 100% energy.
00:52:19.000This energy is converted, heat energy, is converted to electrical power in the reactor itself.
00:52:26.000This is done through a thermoelectric converter.
00:52:32.000And its electrical power is used to power other subsystems on the craft, though there is no wiring, you know, as we would know it.
00:52:39.000Also, that's almost a byproduct of the reactor.
00:52:43.000The reactor also sets up a gravitational wave from the 115 being bombarded.
00:52:48.000This gravitational wave is present at the top of the reactor and is essentially guided in the same way microwaves are guided, through tuned tubes.
00:52:57.000And this goes to their amplifying cavities and through the projectors that are in the bottom of the craft.
00:53:03.000God, I wish I was smart enough to know whether or not he's full of shit.
00:53:05.000Well, so what he's saying is that there's a gravity wave that's accessible on a really large element that extends beyond the perimeter of the atom.
00:53:15.000And when you bombard that element with one particle, kind of like what we were talking about before, it goes through a tuned tube, like a very tiny miniature CERN. The CERN's like a big magnet.
00:53:24.000It holds a particle in a very specific spot.
00:53:29.000It becomes this matter-antimatter reaction.
00:53:32.000These generators can convert all that energy into power, and then they can amplify that wave that's coming off and emanating from that element.
00:53:40.000And they amplify it like you would amplify a radio wave.
00:53:44.000Now, there's no wires in the craft because most likely it was 3D printed.
00:53:47.000We didn't know about 3D printing back then.
00:54:20.000Craft that he had found inside one of these bays in area 51 He realized very quickly that it wasn't something that we had created and that it was somehow another powered through intention Yep, that would go through like touch or feel or put their hands would be on this thing and consciously you would Somehow or another control all the various aspects of this machine.
00:54:54.000I've seen many, many documents on the studies of these things and I've seen a lot of the science associated with What the technology is and what it does.
00:55:08.000Like, I could show you, if I fold up pieces of paper and stuff, what's going on with it.
00:55:13.000But basically, you know, these craft, you know, when you...
00:55:18.000They travel in a straight line, but they're folding space-time.
00:55:21.000Like in Event Horizon, where they explain it by folding a piece of paper and punching a pencil through it.
00:56:08.000So they have some way of interfacing with space itself that's very different than our idea of traveling in a linear way from point A to point B. Space, the fabric, they call it the fabric of space-time because it's like a fabric.
00:57:10.000So if you look at the people involved, we have senior...
00:57:14.000When you get to the senior levels of government, you're either called an SES or SIS, Senior Intelligence Service, Senior Executive Service, or you're a brass.
00:57:22.000But either way, the civilians have the same kind of ranking charter that the brass does.
00:57:27.000So SES-3, SES-3 would be the same thing as a three-star general.
00:57:32.000That's who these people are around me.
00:57:34.000So I had the head of the Skunk Works Engineering.
00:57:36.000I got, you know, SIS Two Star from the Clandestine Directorate of Operations.
00:57:41.000I have a guy under Secretary of Intelligence for the Senate Intelligence Committee and was...
00:58:52.000of what those machines are doing that gives off all these types of effects that people are witnessing but there's also a very large group of people that have had within government that have had close contact like hundreds and it's connected to my group and there's just more coming in that way so that program is trying to figure out what those technologies did to those people and how those technologies work even though And
00:59:22.000it's more about tasking our assets like satellites and other things to be able to find these things better.
00:59:29.000But this is different than the Secret Machines book, which is more of another thing altogether.
00:59:36.000So is there communication between the United States government and alien life forms?
00:59:40.000I personally, I mean, I don't know any of this stuff because I'm not invited to those types of meetings, but I personally wouldn't doubt it, yeah.
00:59:48.000You wouldn't doubt it, but they've never alluded to it or discussed it with you in any way?
01:00:43.000Now, is there any sort of speculation as to why life forms from other planets, other galaxies, other solar systems, different kind of gravity, different environments, would create a life form that's exactly similar to us?
01:00:54.000Or are they imitating what we look like in order to infiltrate our world and hang with us?
01:01:32.000And it kind of makes sense a little bit, right?
01:01:35.000I mean, if you're a living thing and you're traveling through space, obviously you have biological limitations in terms of the need for oxygen and gravitational interactions and all these different things.
01:01:47.000Well, one of the scary hallmarks of those ones, the rumor is it in the back of their head is a transmitter.
01:01:53.000So you got to wonder where it's sin and shit.
01:01:55.000But at the same time, you know, I can tell you that when you look at the Bible, the angels and the demons of the Bible would be the humans and the androids that I just told you about.
01:02:06.000So you think the grays are the androids, right?
01:02:28.000You could tell me Star System 483. Well, you know about Element 115. I would want to know about Starship, Enterprise, Coordinate, 115, B6, 5, Polaris, wherever the fuck it is.
01:02:57.000That there's a very advanced group that left after a catastrophe and hung around in a small outpost here and throughout time would push civilization forward and that's who the Greek gods were.
01:04:49.000So something you've got to realize is, for example...
01:04:53.000The sixth biggest defense contractor in the world, at least there used to be six, is a company called Science Applications International Corporation, SAIC. Their headquarters are actually in San Diego.
01:05:04.000And in the front of the building, you have an ablisk coming out of a fake lake and two Atlantean on thrones.
01:05:55.000I don't think he was exact, but it's interpretive.
01:05:57.000You know, if I was to show you some symbols.
01:05:59.000For people who don't know what that is, explain that.
01:06:00.000Zechariah Sitchin is a Palestinian scholar that decoded a lot of ancient Sumerian texts that were written in Akkadian.
01:06:08.000Sumer was like kind of the first civilization that was advanced that we even know of just out of nowhere here, like 3,500 years before Christ.
01:06:16.000There's mathematics, astronomy, and all this different shit.
01:06:46.000His take on the definition of Nephilim.
01:06:50.000You find that in Genesis, the Nephilim.
01:06:54.000So, you know, he was able to tell a really interesting story based on these texts.
01:07:01.000But some people don't agree with them.
01:07:02.000But at the end of the day, I think it's the closest thing we got.
01:07:05.000And in my early conversations, when I was being given some interesting science fiction stuff for my book...
01:07:13.000The Greek mythology part, I brought up the Sumerians, and they showed me one particular king.
01:07:19.000They said, we find this one very interesting, and I can't remember his name, but it fired so quick when I asked the question, it came right back with this whole thing on this one Sumerian king.
01:07:30.000Well, what's fascinating about them is that they really did know a lot about our solar system.
01:07:35.000And you think about the fact that they were around 5,000 years ago, they had a detailed model of the solar system with all of the planets, and they were all relatively close in size.
01:07:44.000This is a clay, one of those clay cylinders that you would, what you would do is you would put out a flat piece of clay, and you would roll the cylinder over it, and that's how they would print things.
01:08:08.000Well, you've got to remember, Galileo was almost killed and confined to his house arrest because he said that the universe doesn't revolve around us.
01:08:29.000And then we went kind of backwards, you know, and there's probably a bit more to that story, too, that hopefully one day we'll get into it.
01:08:36.000Well, it's just, it's really interesting when you look at these ancient civilizations and their attempts to decipher the world around them and you try to figure out what did they know?
01:11:49.000So you think there's some sort of a primitive life form that's under the ice?
01:12:19.000Can only happen if you explode a nuclear weapon that's artificially made, not like something that happens naturally, like a moon exploding on the surface.
01:12:52.000All peer-reviewed science that the signature of the radioactive activity from this very specific isotope that only comes from artificial nuclear explosion or something shit.
01:13:26.000He was one of the main proponents of the face on Mars and all the pyramids that they found on Mars.
01:13:33.000They would find these weird connections between one point to another point and somehow or another they made some arbitrary distinctions that those were indicative of intelligent design.
01:13:43.000Did you know Elon Musk wanted to drop nukes up there too?
01:14:09.000The second thing we're doing, he might really actually be interested in.
01:14:12.000So the two aerospace projects to the stars is doing, one is we're building something that will, in effect, be anti-gravity, but that's actually not the mechanism it does in building a spacecraft.
01:14:23.000But the second thing that we're doing is called beamed energy propulsion, which is something I think Musk will be very interested in.
01:14:31.000So the Air Force Research Lab kind of broke the science back in the 90s and a bunch of people associated with that program got it declassified and they're working for us on building it.
01:14:43.000So it'll take a handful of years to do, but what you do is you use very strong either microwaves or some other kind of wave and it ignites and explodes the air underneath a mechanism that carries a CubeSat.
01:14:54.000And so essentially what happens is you don't use any fossil fuels.
01:14:59.000And it can bring the cost of launching a CubeSat from like 50 grand down to 5 grand.
01:15:04.000So that means colleges and neighbors and anyone else can launch CubeSats quite easily.
01:15:10.000Now have you had any debates with people about this stuff?
01:15:13.000Have you ever like had someone who thinks that this is all nonsense and sat down with you, understands physics, understands rocket propulsion, space and elements and all that shit?
01:15:47.000You said that there's some ridiculous sort of propulsion system that allows you to move through time, that they visit this planet all the time and extract resources, that there's people in the government that are trying to disseminate this information,
01:17:08.000Yeah, but if you go back to the early days when Oprah used to do that stupid show where she'd have like KKK members on and everybody sat on white plastic seats.
01:17:58.000So you think that they took some lower hominids and that they did something to them to create human beings.
01:18:04.000That is a very popular theory among UFO fanatics, or should you say fans, devotees.
01:18:09.000I don't want to speak again for my company, but one of the people on our board, they call it a SAP, Scientific Advisory Board, is a lead geneticist from Stanford who, I think he was up for the Nobel this year.
01:18:38.000What's the science that makes people think that?
01:18:40.000Well, there's a lot of junk DNA. There's certain parts of our DNA that seems to have been turned off.
01:18:45.000There's a bunch of things in there that we don't understand, and we don't have the leaps of humanity over the past 5,000 years to really show what happened in the past 5,000 years that wasn't happening for the hundreds of millions of years before that.
01:19:03.000They just found a footprint that was like 100 million years old or something like that.
01:19:20.000Like, there was a librarian that said that she didn't believe that she was a young Earth creationist.
01:19:26.000She thought that there was a picture online that showed a human footprint inside a dinosaur footprint that it proved that people walked with dinosaurs.
01:19:37.000I think there's been cycles of civilizations.
01:19:39.000And I think the people on the inside know that.
01:19:42.000And that's why at that defense contractor, multi, multi, multi, multi-billion dollar defense contractor, the ones that chose the government of Iraq after we took over Iraq, and the ones that looked after all of our nukes...
01:20:27.000Right, but that's like the whole reason why we're supposedly here, that it killed off the dinosaurs and allowed whatever, they think there was some sort of a mole, mole-type creature that evolved over 65 million years to become us.
01:20:42.000No, I think that at some point in history, someone came here and tampered with existing creatures and made us, and upgraded us at very specific intervals.
01:20:52.000But who tampered with them, and what came first, the chicken or the egg?
01:21:30.000You know, that's why we're doing the fighting, right?
01:21:33.000So if you think about it that way, if you think about that all life somehow or another continues to evolve and advanced and through natural selection, genetic mutation and random mutations that things move from one stage of existence to what they are today,
01:22:19.000That's the big leap, and it's over the period of two million years.
01:22:22.000Obviously, I'm too stupid to really understand this, but from what I've read and what I've heard people talk about, that's apparently one of the biggest mysteries when it comes to the human fossil record.
01:22:32.000But there's a pretty clear line, apparently, from Australopithecus to, you know, to the homosexuals.
01:23:46.000Why not just concentrate entirely on revealing the truth?
01:23:50.000Because it has to be managed in a certain way for people to understand and I think that someone sitting down and watching a debate play out and having an idea of what What went on over the past 70 years, they'll come out of that with an emotional response and more of an understanding and then want to go watch the documentary and then want to buy some of the nonfiction works that we've done.
01:24:10.000I've already put out one of our nonfiction books with Secret Machines.
01:24:53.000Well, it's not every—I mean, look at Lou Elizondo, the guy that works for me that just came from the Pentagon, literally quit the Pentagon two weeks ago.
01:25:00.000I was—I can't tell you where I'm at.
01:25:04.000But he's with me, and he was on stage with me.
01:25:09.000On the live event we did on the 11th saying, I left the Pentagon days ago, I ran this particular UFO program, and this is what we know, and they are real, and we're going to continue that program here at To The Stars.
01:25:21.000Now, so your goal is to release this information through documentaries, through films, and to educate people of the existence of this, and is it to make a ship?
01:25:32.000No, so this is, once again, look, by putting together, you can't attack this subject by just, like, if you make a movie, that's a crazy movie, if you make a science paper on it, no one's going to read it, and the technology will never see the light of day because it's been modified as weaponry or whatever it is,
01:25:51.000that the only way to get people to understand what the fuck is going on is by first present them the story so they have an understanding that it Is real, and it is happening, and lay it in a way that's grounded and practical, but still moves you,
01:26:09.000and then follow up with the science, and then show them that that thing you're watching in the movie can be engineered and created.
01:26:18.000But there's a thing called a community of interest.
01:26:20.000So To The Stars is also building a portal with the Department of Defense to share information, to educate people, to put some declassified, now declassified videos of UFOs, some science and documents and have open forums and have current military people talk to young adults.
01:26:39.000So you're gonna expose people to this narrative and explain to them through stories what this could be.
01:26:57.000Well, the endgame is to, the technology itself is like, so when you make, when you create this energy source that powers the spacecraft, it's called an overunity machine.
01:27:08.000So it puts out more power than what's put into it.
01:27:11.000You can desalinate ocean water with it.
01:27:13.000You can get rid of atomic power so there's no radio, no more Fukushima, you know.
01:27:18.000It could do a lot of different things, but it also will rapidly, rapidly transform our entire transportation and communication network.
01:27:27.000So the end result with that is that'll get spun out into a company that's probably partners with major aerospace organizations, with whom I'm already talking.
01:28:38.000So a year and a half ago, maybe 24 months ago, the SEC wanted to democratize going public with companies, just like an IPO, but not have to spend millions of dollars and do it.
01:28:50.000So they launched what's called a Regulation A direct public offering.
01:28:53.000And we had a file with the SEC. So we had to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to do this, and we spent the last six months doing it.
01:29:15.000So you're spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to anticipate someone coming in and closing the doors, and yet you're talking about it in advance.
01:29:25.000You're essentially telling them that you know, but you're letting them know that you know that they're going to come and get it.
01:29:30.000It's going to be much harder to shut it down when the whole world has paid for it, invested in it, owns it.
01:29:35.000So you're trying to get people to buy things.
01:30:52.000Look at you, you multi-talented motherfucker.
01:30:53.000Well, look, that's where I'm going with most of this stuff, but the company I had to get up and get going and set it up and we bring in a CEO and all that kind of shit.
01:31:06.000Well, the heart of it is when we do what's called confirmation, not disclosure, confirmation, the heart of it is how do we tell stories that galvanize the human race and let them know a little bit more about what's going on, and how do we present them science so they understand that consciousness and a lot of other things are real,
01:31:25.000and how do we build a technology associated with those stories and with those science that can change the world?
01:31:58.000So, now, what's the timeline for moving forward with all this stuff?
01:32:02.000Okay, so in the next few weeks, we're going to be releasing the first declassified videos of these advanced aerial threat UFOs.
01:32:10.000And they are current videos that were just caught, and with audio and everything of the people tracking them.
01:32:16.000And we're going to launch the beta version of the Community of Interest, which is the partnered website that's going to be hosting all this declassified information, where we're going to be having the hardcore conversations with people that want to understand this stuff.
01:32:29.000We're going to be Also doing an experiment with that piece of metal to show the world that the technology is not only real, but it's demonstrable.
01:32:39.000And the videos are very much a proof of concept.
01:32:42.000We're showing you, look, it works, so we're going to build it.
01:32:45.000Do you think it's going to be weird for people to take you seriously because you're a rock star?
01:32:49.000Maybe if you were some sort of a physicist or a scientist, they would listen to you more.
01:32:54.000Well, you know, I remember when Elon came out years ago, and he started SpaceX, and then he started Tesla.
01:33:00.000I'm like, here's this dude saying all this ambitious shit.
01:33:26.000On my scientific board, advisory board, is one of the guys at CIA that headed up the entire bio-warfare program and the director of operations, the clandestine division.
01:33:50.000Was tying together a mechanism that can perpetually fund itself and can communicate and can I created a roundtable with engineers,
01:34:05.000scientists, high-ranking intelligence officials, and some others I can't tell you about, obviously.
01:34:12.000In the defense world, it's called stove piping.
01:34:17.000So when they compartmentalize a secret, they put them into these vertical categories that can't talk to each other.
01:34:23.000I created a horizontal structure where all these people in these amazing, accomplished, Positions in government, we're able to come together at the same table, and they can discuss what we want to teach the world and how we want to do that.
01:34:39.000But the way to do that is including the public and making it a public benefit corporation.
01:34:45.000And what that means is we're able to spend money, and it's in our charter, on things that can benefit the world and not just provide a return to the investors.
01:34:54.000But what we're doing happens to be extremely lucrative.
01:36:31.000You point lasers at the bottom of a CubeSat, which is like the size of a shoebox, and you can put it into low-Earth orbit, and you can put it up even higher without using any fossil fuels, with using light.
01:36:51.000If you watch the video at the top of the tothestarsacademy.com page, you'll see shots of it where little things glowing and it's getting beamed up into the sky.
01:37:27.000It's probably 80% of the satellite business, but now they've got to put all these CubeSats together on Musk's rocket that's also launching giant satellites for DoD or whatever, but it's super expensive because you have a rocket and you have all the fossil fuels and all this stuff.
01:37:44.000If you launch these CubeSats with lasers because they're not that heavy and you can, like I said, it would take a cost of launching a CubeSat from 50 grand a pound down to 5 grand.
01:38:03.000And then you go to the entertainment division, which is my primary spot.
01:38:09.000You know, making movies and selling millions of books and licensing this stuff out is the reason why Disney's $300 billion and Warner Brothers is $5 billion.
01:38:27.000And we have three television series that are...
01:38:33.000Probably, one of which will be announced probably in the next couple weeks.
01:38:36.000The other two, we're a little further out on that.
01:38:38.000The first film, our first film, is first quarter next year.
01:38:41.000I wrote that one, and I'll be directing that one.
01:38:44.000It's called Strange Times, which is like a hard R version of The Goonies, but funny, but scary and fucked up, but with 17 and 18-year-old kids.
01:38:53.000And then Secret Machines, the motion picture.
01:38:58.000So Strange Times has an animated series that's coming out.
01:39:00.000We have a wonderful writer from Saturday Night Live that's showrunning the thing.
01:39:04.000We have an unscripted show coming out on the entire company, just following us in a very national geographic way as we do all these things.
01:39:13.000And as we build lasers, as we're on the movie sets, as we're in the lab, you know, Pinging those pieces of metal I told you about.
01:39:22.000So there's a lot of things like that going.
01:39:25.000So when you ask about how do we monetize all this shit, we have a full functioning entertainment division.
01:39:33.000And we've put out Seven novels already, but your end goal is ultimately to expose all this information my American my end goal is not just that my end goal is to build a company that changes the world and By doing a traditional IPO in the next five to seven years and to do that I grabbed Very,
01:39:55.000very high-ranking people from various areas in the government to achieve all this stuff.
01:40:00.000And they don't need to come in on the movies.