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00:02:52.000Well, us, you know, the Daily Wire people, the Prager, who are really cool, you know, Ben Shapiro, those guys, those guys there at Forward Publishing, and then a bunch of think tanks.
00:02:59.000And everyone sat there and played nice, and they bring out this whole spread, they bring you into the Google offices.
00:03:52.000They're like, well, you know, things that are hate speech, things that could be offensive, things like current events that could be controversial, and so everyone's sitting there.
00:03:59.000Yeah, but I just said, what about BuzzFeed women painting in period blood in the trending feed?
00:04:04.000Painting in viscous-y, chunky period blood on the home feed that's on YouTube trending.
00:06:52.000So later in the day was when they came up with this next-gen news.
00:06:56.000It got to a point where we were just pissing ourselves laughing.
00:06:59.000So explain this because you explained it to me earlier.
00:07:00.000Well, I was like, the problem is, right, I have to be careful because otherwise they'll take it out of context.
00:07:04.000So then this is the news portion of the day, this whole YouTube conference, bringing out conservatives and, you know, the salmon pate plate, which I don't think there's anything grosser.
00:07:11.000He was eating pasted fish in the car in the way here.
00:07:27.000It's like hip-hop and sneakers, you know, like a sneaker haul with whatever the guy from the show Black-ish Anthony, whatever, that kind of stuff.
00:08:22.000Considering that you deal with hip-hop and a lot of pretty adult, pretty profane content, have you been hit by, at the time it was called the adpocalypse.
00:09:21.000They don't want to intimidate everybody.
00:09:21.000But if she went to like a really fucking heavy-duty hip-hop place and started throwing that word around, they would look at her like, hey, is she even allowed?
00:10:03.000I mean, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with using that language.
00:10:06.000I had a conversation, I told you about this, that I had a conversation with this woman from YouTube, and one of the things that we were talking about was demonetization, and we were talking about, like, why things get flagged, and I was talking about a conversation that got flagged on some...
00:10:21.000When someone recommends something and they have it in their feed, like their preferred playlist, like a regular person, not a content creator.
00:14:04.000And he was one of the early, early YouTubers, early adopters, first other conservative on YouTube, very analytical, very dry, very smart.
00:14:11.000And he did a video that was just called something like, the Japanese were not the victims in World War II. And it was a video about the atrocities, I think, the Japanese committed against the Chinese.
00:14:24.000But he was basically talking about, like, people just look back and they look at Hiroshima, but let's actually look at the aspirations of the Japanese Empire.
00:14:30.000Historical, it was removed as hate speech.
00:14:32.000And here's the thing, he came to me, and because we had those contacts directly at YouTube, they immediately apologized and fixed it.
00:14:39.000But what worries me is, well, what if you don't have a million-plus subscribers?
00:14:41.000You know, what if I weren't there for him?
00:14:44.000And that's the one thing that I always get worried about with comedy and with a lot of entertainers is they kind of pave a path and sometimes you see these guys close the door behind them.
00:14:51.000Like, well, it was okay for me to say it, but now this is, that's really, I've learned better, we shouldn't say it.
00:14:56.000And it's like, well, hold on a second, we're in the boat where you were.
00:15:01.000There's a lot of famine thinking going on in that regard where people automatically want to protect what they have and get nervous about it and they forget what got them there in the first place.
00:15:09.000What makes any of us popular is the ability to express yourself online in a way that resonates with other people that are listening.
00:15:17.000Now, as soon as you restrict that, as soon as you change that and say, well, I just want to do real good and I'm making a lot of money now.
00:15:52.000Regardless of the rules that they claim, which are so ambiguous, in practice, there's no way to make it work.
00:15:59.000Well, I think this is indicative of the ideology that radiates throughout Silicon Valley, which is radical, left, progressive, neo-Marxist sort of ideology.
00:16:11.000And there's so much of that going on throughout Silicon Valley, so much in the tech community, so much uber-progressive thinking.
00:16:18.000Which, you know, look, I think all of it comes from the right place.
00:16:47.000They take an authoritarian approach to solving the whole thing, and then refuse to accept the results, which is the Donald Trump presidency and the things they've created.
00:16:56.000Well, in their defense, one of the things they did say to me, that the problem they're dealing with is blunt tools.
00:17:05.000They're saying these tools that demonetize things, they're not good yet.
00:17:09.000And she said within the next six to eight months, they're going to get better.
00:17:42.000Well, it's a weird thing where these things get put on a kid's playlist.
00:17:46.000You know, it's like Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse getting drunk and then like someone throws a bottle up in the air and it hits a baby in the head and there's blood everywhere.
00:17:54.000And these same patterns are repeated over and over again in hundreds of these videos, maybe thousands.
00:17:59.000A lot of them have been removed from YouTube, right?
00:18:10.000I found a weirder playlist of this guy dissecting candy and making weird voices over it, and then there was a whole list of videos of people saying, like, what the fuck is this channel?
00:18:26.000Is it different than the YouTube kids thing?
00:18:28.000No, I think you're talking about the YouTube kids thing.
00:18:30.000Yeah, the kid thing though is more fucked up because it's always the same pattern.
00:18:35.000It's like these kids get together with a parent, the parents give the kids booze, the kids get drunk, they throw bottles, the baby gets hit in the head with a bottle, there's blood everywhere.
00:18:45.000It's like the same thing over and over and over again.
00:18:47.000There's been all these videos exposing these videos, like people that are analyzing and saying, what the fuck is this?
00:20:38.000They seek us out because it's worth octuple to them because they want to reach our audience.
00:20:43.000Whereas YouTube says, well, no, it's not advertiser friendly.
00:20:45.000No, no, it's not advertiser friendly for the people you have on there.
00:20:47.000It's not gay crews advertiser friendly, but you're telling me you have the most advanced algorithms in the world, and you're running ads for Young Turks on my video.
00:23:05.000I just think, like most people, they get embroiled in conflict and then they lose perspective and then it builds up and then it becomes something stupid.
00:23:13.000And I think, you know, his thing with Alex Jones is handled very poorly when they start screaming at each other and Anna called him a fat fuck.
00:23:20.000I'm like, God damn, you can't do that.
00:23:22.000Like, this is against everything you guys stand for.
00:24:12.000And for them, they, you know, this far left sort of, I guess, progressive viewpoint, and they've gotten increasingly worse, is not popular.
00:24:20.000And when that's your only argument, when that's your whole identity...
00:24:23.000It's a very short time between that and when the pendulum swings.
00:25:13.000Well, that's why the left doesn't do it.
00:25:15.000And I know people say, well, okay, we do a segment where the biggest success for us this year that we're really grateful for is the Change My Mind segment.
00:25:21.000And that's just where I literally sit down, we put up a booth that says, I'm pro-gun, change my mind, or I'm pro-life, change my mind, or there are only two genders.
00:25:48.000And everyone, when I worked at Fox News, everyone in cable news would have told you this would not work and no one's going to watch an hour-long discussion.
00:25:54.000But there's no one on the left who does that.
00:25:56.000Well, they can't do it in their format.
00:25:58.000They can't do it when they have an 8 to 10 slot or an 8 to 9 slot and there's every 15 minutes you have to sandwich in a commercial and then you have all these segments that you have to play.
00:26:43.000I think they also called me right-wing, too, which is like, alright.
00:26:48.000One of the things they were saying was that people just decide, like, that these people, that we decide to help each other out, that the right supports themselves and they support, like, other right-wing people, but the left needs to figure out how to do that.
00:27:07.000I have people that are completely neutral to politics on all the time.
00:27:09.000I just think when you box yourself into these ideologies, when you're only pro-left and you can't see any perspective outside of that, it becomes an issue.
00:27:21.000It's going to be an issue for you today after a double feature of Jordan Peterson and us.
00:27:24.000It's probably going to come fast and heavy.
00:27:50.000What I wanted to talk to you guys about is some of my favorite stuff that you've done.
00:27:55.000And some of my favorite stuff that you've done is the undercover shit.
00:27:58.000And one of the things that I found the most disturbing was when you two posed as a gay couple and you went to that place where they were advocating transgender children and transitioning children as young as three years old.
00:28:11.000I don't know if it was three years old, but puberty blockers, they were talking about.
00:28:14.000Yeah, but I think it was really fucking...
00:28:17.000Actually, three years old was Owen Benjamin got in an argument on Twitter and lost his manager because he was saying that someone is fucking insane for giving puberty blockers to a three-year-old kid, for giving hormone blockers to a baby, which I am...
00:31:42.000Yeah, I mean there's no way giving a kid a puberty blocker, letting them go through life with a puberty blocker and then at 17 or whatever the fuck it is decide to take that shit off, you're gonna be the exact same human being you would have been without that.
00:31:52.000These are the same people worried about a little estrogen in milk cartons.
00:32:14.000No, he's just picking his nose and wiping his booger off on the couch three minutes ago and now you're letting him decide his hormonal profile.
00:32:20.000Yeah, the idea that a child who's six years old or whatever would know the consequences, but them saying that 18 is too late and that they would disagree with your primary care physician that it's too young based on the research that I've done.
00:32:34.000What fucking research have you done where you can clearly point that it's a good idea to transition a six-year-old?
00:33:51.000Like, should you choose to transition or transition the other way?
00:33:54.000You mean, should you choose to not cut off your penis?
00:33:57.000That's transitioned the other way now?
00:33:59.000Well, not only that, there's a lot of people in the transgender community that think it's offensive to assume that you have to get an operation, get your penis removed in order to be transgender.
00:35:41.000Well, she's anti all this stupid shit.
00:35:43.000Well, I'm saying they don't give any leeway to Asians.
00:35:45.000It's the minority group that they actually get more crap.
00:35:47.000It's like, well, you have to be better than everyone to get into a good college because there are too many Asians.
00:35:50.000To get into universities because there are so many really good ones.
00:35:51.000Okay, Dr. Q Van Meter, a pediatric endocrinologist with extensive experience in gender dysphoria, which, by the way, is hate speech, says there is 0.0 evidence that the concepts of gender fluidity and gender identity have any scientific basis.
00:36:54.000Well, she, remember, said, like, I identify as someone with bigger breasts.
00:36:58.000And she was asking how to get this covered under, you know, Medicare, Medicaid, because they were talking about getting all these operations.
00:37:03.000And Mr. Rex, God bless him, Dr. Rex Butt was like, I think you should mention that, you know, talk about that gender dysphoria.
00:37:10.000So for her, they use gender dysphoria to try and file it medically to get new tits on the taxpayer dime, but it was considered hate speech to say it to the transgenders in the room.
00:37:26.000Well, I mean, anything that you can mock is bullshit.
00:37:28.000I mean, if you can mock it that openly, if that's that obvious, like getting bigger tits because you identify as someone with bigger tits, I mean, that's bullshit.
00:39:43.000And if you can explain to me where you feel happier being a man, I'm 100% in support of you doing that.
00:39:50.000What drives me crazy is people making decisions for six-year-olds, people pushing six-year-olds in certain directions, and I know that this does happen, and I can't get too personal about this, but I have a friend who has an ex-wife that turned his child into a girl.
00:41:25.000You know, less than room temperature IQ. Some doctor can come in who's pro-transgender and explain something and make it sound like we don't know what we're talking about.
00:41:37.000What terms are there that you don't know about a child's biological development?
00:41:42.000Well, what they point to is, well, actually, there are these studies that show that the brain alterations occur before across hormone sex replacement therapy, and it's actually not true.
00:41:50.000So we had a few transgender people on our show.
00:41:51.000But the point is, whether it's a conspiracy or this, you say, okay, I'm not a doctor.
00:41:58.000I can't just say, this doctor says X. So I do have to, at this point, accepting that I'm not a doctor, accept the preponderance of evidence from the overall medical community And combine that with the anecdotal, and combine that with, is there a motive here?
00:42:20.000Now, I can understand how someone might benefit from a conspiracy where it's like, oh, they make a lot of money off of this, or was it Tim Kennedy as a hunting Hitler thing?
00:42:28.000I'm not saying, but it's like, okay, I understand after war, they thought maybe they had Hitler, and they needed the healing for the country.
00:45:30.000And this cast-able thing, and I've said this...
00:45:33.000One of the reasons why I have no actor friends is because I have a couple that I'm friendly with, but as my inner circle of people I hang around with on a regular basis, comics and fighters and just people that I know, they deal in reality.
00:45:47.000The actors are always trying to get cast in things, and there's a dynamic that occurs when you're always trying to get cast in things where you never want to say anything that's controversial.
00:45:55.000You don't want to have any opinions that don't fit into the standard, acceptable, digestible Hollywood dogma.
00:46:48.000This is like what Milo talked about, okay?
00:46:50.000And this is all very taboo stuff, but in the gay community, it's far more acceptable for a man to be dating a 15-, 16-, 17-year-old boy that's openly gay than it is in the straight community.
00:47:02.000In the straight community, if you find out that a 40-year-old man is dating a 14-year-old girl.
00:47:08.000That guy is a piece of shit, and he should be locked in a fucking cage.
00:47:12.000But if you find out that in the gay community, it's not thought of the same.
00:47:20.000I mean, I can name you several people when we worked in Canadian TV, particularly makeup artists who were like, no, be careful, Michelle likes them young.
00:47:29.000I'm not at all saying it's acceptable with Kevin Spacey, but what I am saying is what bothers me is the same thing with the Me Too campaign.
00:47:36.000Like Meryl Streep coming out, everyone coming out with the Harvey Weinstein thing.
00:48:42.000I think what really got Kevin in trouble was not just the initial story, but then that he was grabbing dicks on the set, and he was just...
00:49:34.000But what he was saying essentially was that when you're a young boy and you're gay, you can have a very positive relationship with an older man who acts as a mentor.
00:49:43.000And that was extremely controversial and that ultimately cost him.
00:49:46.000And he was also saying that he had that done to him.
00:49:49.000On my podcast, that's what he said, that when he was young, he was molested.
00:49:52.000But he said, he goes, please, he goes, I was a predator.
00:50:00.000Like, you know that if you try working that out in the club and you're like, believe me, I was a predator, the crowd is going to go from laughing to, uh, what?
00:50:09.000But he's 14. If you're 14 and you're saying that you were the predator and you're the guy on stage, you're not the man who's talking about a 14-year-old boy that you want to fuck.
00:50:20.000You're talking about you being 14 and loving the fact that a priest molested you and that you went after him.
00:50:37.000What he does is a lot of it is shtick and like it's sort of like a gonzo journalism type thing right like you don't know when where's the shtick where's your real feelings on these things and then where is the distinction between how Some heterosexual people look at this and some gay people look at this.
00:50:57.000Because I think the spectrum is different.
00:51:00.000Like, the spectrum of heterosexual people that think it's acceptable for a grown man to have sex with a 14-year-old is fucking very small.
00:52:15.000James Damore let go for what he wrote.
00:52:17.000On Google, not a single person we asked at the YouTube conference had ever owned a gun or knew someone who owned a gun.
00:52:24.000YouTube, Google, Facebook, NBC, ABC, CNN, CBS, all of them, none of them are standing up and having this conversation saying even the highly controversial issue of puberty blockers, with which most people disagree, they just go, puberty blockers, a new topic of discussion, they go, the left cannot have this conversation because you have to draw the line before puberty blockers.
00:52:44.000You have to draw the line at how far do we have to play along with your delusion.
00:53:37.000Well, the reason is because my mom, who did wardrobe for the Just for Laughs and a lot of Canadian sitcoms, so she does wardrobe for us now as we've grown and do these sketches.
00:53:43.000And so Blair White was the ghost of Christmas Past in this parody that we did.
00:54:53.000He's going from D.C. to Burlington, Vermont, and he is, I swear to you, I took a picture, on the absolute last row of Economy Plus Plus, where that...
00:57:52.000You know, I think the problem is like, you know, even if you have people who are economic socialists who are on board with him, we have a lot of people who are pro-Bernie who then changed because they just said, well, then he went full SJW and the Black Lives Matter and feminism.
00:58:04.000And that's why I say even if you find a leftist.
00:58:14.000And that's why they say you're right-wing, because the truth is, you could be considered right-wing, just like he could, just like I could, just like Jordan Peterson could, just like Milo could, just like Ben Schiff.
00:58:22.000And all of us have wildly differing views.
00:58:24.000If you were to check the box off with Chank, Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, take your pick, they would check the same boxes, because they have to.
00:58:31.000And I think that's why they're losing so much ground culturally.
00:59:23.000There are a few people, like we've had, you know, like Gary Sinise in the show, we've had some bigger name actors where they have screw you money where it doesn't matter.
00:59:36.000But there are other actors we can't even necessarily name who are like, I'd really like to do the show, but, you know, I can't yet when I get to this stage in my career.
00:59:43.000I'm sure you've probably heard from those people, too.
01:01:46.000Like NAC or Coca, when you would do college stuff.
01:01:49.000So that was my experience with colleges, and I hated it.
01:01:51.000But for the first time, I know now that people are going to be protesting to a significant degree.
01:01:57.000And I just wanted to go out and do some— Kind of is their degree.
01:01:59.000Yeah, do some—like I was telling them, like, I don't know what I do here because, like, they're just going to speak and lecture and I want to do just, you know, a 20-minute set.
01:02:05.000It's really tough because if you don't acknowledge a heckler, if you don't acknowledge the person, but then when you come out and it's just Trigglypuff who doesn't have enough middle fingers to give, I've never given anyone the figure from the stage.
01:02:16.000I realized immediately I'm not going to be able to do stand-up, and that was the rant that went viral, which I didn't expect.
01:02:23.000I was like, I'm just going to stay, I'm just going to do my set, and then afterwards we'll do a Q&A. They wouldn't allow it.
01:02:28.000And I just saw her and I just couldn't.
01:02:30.000She looked like the broad from Monsters, Inc.
01:04:41.000She is a super feminist, but she calls herself the factual feminist.
01:04:46.000And her idea is that when you distort reality, when you distort biology, when you distort facts, you are doing your cause a disservice, which is her cause, being an actual feminist.
01:04:56.000She's a real feminist, and she doesn't think there's anything wrong with being a woman.
01:04:59.000She doesn't think there's anything wrong with wearing dresses, putting on makeup or lipstick.
01:06:17.000You see this far-right rise in Europe.
01:06:19.000Because if you call someone a Nazi for so long, you're like, well, hold on a second, I'm not a Nazi.
01:06:22.000I just don't want Paris to become a rape then.
01:06:25.000Yeah, well, when you go from calling someone a Nazi and then you see Charlottesville, when you see guys with Nazi tattoos, you go, oh, well, that's a Nazi.
01:07:13.000And I was telling Jamie before the show, like, I'm not...
01:07:17.000I'm not without my criticisms for Trump, but I gotta admit, every time stuff just rolls off his back like water on a duck, I start fucking laughing.
01:07:25.000They were like, this Stormy Daniels thing is gonna sink him.
01:07:27.000I have a friend of mine who's gay and he's the nicest guy in the world, but he's so ridiculous.
01:08:06.000I don't even know what happened with that exactly, but to me, I was, remember, I just was like, I gotta disconnect for a bit, because I've been just going, going, going, so I disconnected, and I kind of popped my head in for half a day, just because we're moving to a new studio, kind of like you've been doing, and I popped my head in, and I was like, what's the news?
01:08:46.000Yeah, it's not the appropriate thing for the President of the United States to say, but does it make sense that Donald Trump would say that?
01:09:28.000They're very unfortunate that they're in a bad place.
01:09:29.000Yeah, but how is it racist if especially you're criticizing a government which comprises of black people who are screwing a black citizenry?
01:09:53.000No locale and a couple of the other shitholes.
01:09:56.000I mean, I just like it's one of those things where I think if nothing else Donald Trump has allowed people and we weren't Trump but people we got so much flack from the alt-right because we didn't support Donald Trump.
01:10:06.000Right, I remember that and you were more in support of Ted Cruz, right?
01:10:44.000There's a lot of people that are really fucking smart at things, but they are not wise in terms of how they behave and how they think and how they conduct their life and whether or not they pay for a Jesus painting when he's holding their shoulder.
01:12:26.000A transgender woman is a man, and just because you feel something like that, it does not overtake biology, and it's just a long thing.
01:12:36.000This transgender person wanted to file a human rights violation case against her and get her arrested, and said, That the only way this person would be willing to not do that would be to sit down with this woman and have coffee with her,
01:14:38.000Now it affects the person who says, if you're born a man, you're a man.
01:14:41.000And now it affects Mike Ward, the comedian who was put before Human Rights Tribunal for making fun of the Make-A-Wish Kid Foundation.
01:14:47.000At a certain point, you have to draw the line.
01:14:49.000And do we want to decide that we're going to draw the line when it comes to, for example, puberty blockers?
01:14:53.000Or do we draw the line when someone tries to strangle Ben Shapiro on the Dr. Drew show because he implies that the guy with the penis is still a man?
01:17:41.000Like, I don't care if it's AIDS or if you could give someone cancer.
01:17:47.000If you have cancer and you know you have cancer, I mean if it was a communicable disease and you decided to make out with someone who doesn't have cancer and you gave it to them, like fuck man, you just killed somebody.
01:17:56.000You just smoked a pipe and kissed me and now I have esophageal cancer.
01:18:00.000You know, the bigger conversation on that too is...
01:18:03.000They're like, obviously it's not fatal anymore because of protease inhibitors and all this stuff, but the reality is...
01:19:32.000The guy with the beautiful leather vest with no shirt on underneath it, wandering through the streets with a tire on his neck that looks suspiciously like a leash.
01:19:42.000It was on sale with the Hello Kitty backpacks.
01:19:46.000So his argument, I remember, was, well, these laws, these disclosure laws, and by the way, for people who don't know, it means you have to disclose that you have AIDS if you're having sex with somebody.
01:19:56.000These disclosure laws only serve to stigmatize people.
01:20:17.000I mean, what does it take to say, like, well, you know what, okay, maybe we should stigmatize...
01:20:21.000If I were to use an absurd example in a bit, it would be like, okay, maybe we should stigmatize knowingly transferring AIDS to somebody through unprotected butt sex as a goof.
01:20:30.000But instead, we don't want to stigmatize that.
01:20:32.000Well, you're not even supposed to say AIDS, right?
01:20:33.000Because it's HIV, and then HIV gives AIDS. You get AIDS because your immune system is compromised, and what AIDS is is a syndrome, acquired immune deficiency syndrome.
01:20:43.000I never got more hate in all the years I did this podcast than one of the early, early, early episodes.
01:21:01.000He wrote an article in Spin Magazine way, way, way back in the day, and his assertion was that HIV is a very weak virus and that HIV is appearing in the systems of these people because they have compromised immune systems.
01:21:16.000It's not AIDS. It's not HIV that's giving these people compromised immune systems.
01:21:21.000They already have compromised immune systems.
01:21:23.000And he was saying the reason why they're having these compromised immune systems is because of Amyl nitrate and crystal meth and party drugs.
01:21:33.000And he showed overwhelming, like in his mind, overwhelming evidence that all these people that got AIDS were getting...
01:21:42.000Their immune system was compromised because of partying.
01:21:45.000They were saying this is why it's so prevalent in the gay party community.
01:22:21.000But if it wasn't a gay thing, here's the thing.
01:22:24.000If AIDS was just something, you found truck stop people who were just doing meth and shooting heroin, and they're all, for whatever reason, they're getting this disease, you would go, oh, I bet a disease is probably, maybe has something to do with the fact they're all doing meth.
01:25:13.000And that's the thing when we do, you know, the Change My Mind segments, most time people, it's pretty amicable, and then you just get someone who comes up and wants to commit assault.
01:25:40.000So finding the balance of seeing there are a lot of people out there now who are open to hearing these points, who are open to hearing these ideas, being able to identify them, and then being able to identify the people who are so bought in they won't even listen.
01:25:52.000You need to make an example of them for the people you can convince.
01:25:56.000And understanding the two different kinds of people, the Trigglypuffs versus, you know, I don't know, Jordan Peterson, who probably never saw himself as even political at all until he came out and said something that would seem to be so benign and cause an uproar.
01:26:09.000I think being able to identify those two, it's not so much just about left and right, who can hear, who won't, and how to handle them.
01:30:16.000We found all of his online message board, his pseudonyms, his usernames, and coded language about grooming.
01:30:25.000Grooming, you mean like you're grooming kids online.
01:30:27.000So we found all of it and we released an article on it.
01:30:29.000And then Salon released another article where he responded and didn't call us up by name, but was like, my week in the right-wing hate sphere.
01:30:38.000And they ran it on Salon like, we're the bad guys because we found out that you're grooming children?
01:30:43.000And they released a few and we just realized, okay, this is the thing, kind of like hormone blockers for kids.
01:30:48.000Salon's cool with an active pedophile.
01:31:08.000We kind of knew what they were planning with Ben Shapiro going into Utah.
01:31:12.000As a matter of fact, we were going to go to Berkeley right before that, but then last minute we found out that they weren't going to do it because we know where they meet.
01:31:37.000So they committed crimes, again, later that day and were arrested.
01:31:40.000So the same person who handed him a shank later that day assaulted someone and was arrested.
01:31:44.000So Reg gets you the information and then you, how do you make contact with these people?
01:31:51.000We were part of their Facebook grouping, so we found out where they wanted to meet, when and where, and we showed up to campus, and I walk in as Jason...
01:32:02.000Antifa person, new to the organization, say I want to be involved.
01:35:05.000And we had security and everything, but I remember you were really...
01:35:08.000And then, after the clips you'll see, after they gave you the knife, and we were filing out reports with the cops, at that point he goes, I'm going to go back in.
01:37:41.000Because I don't know about the weapons at this point.
01:37:43.000I'm expecting like 40s guys in what they call black block, all black, goggles, everything, and it just looks like a really sad social club.
01:37:51.000So I get there, sit down for a bit, and like three minutes in, they start telling me, they start passing me stuff, telling me everything you just saw.
01:37:59.000And I'm thinking, oh my lord, this is not...
01:38:07.000And meanwhile, I'm on the other side of the school, because Ben Shapiro is speaking.
01:38:10.000So I'm on the other side of the school, and Ben Shapiro is there, so there are a lot of fans, so I'm kind of taking pictures, and I got spotted, so I'm taking pictures, and my phone's vibrating like, hold on a second, let me just shut off my phone.
01:38:19.000Taking pictures, and I see it, and Jared's like, they're handing me knives!
01:39:19.000He gave us a brief spot when they actually put together, weeks later, after our video came out, so he had to acknowledge it, but he put together a small little brief montage of our video that took place on his little profile event.
01:39:32.000It was a mostly peaceful event, though not without some controversy.
01:39:36.000What happens is, to me, what's so crazy is, again, I offered it to the local guy.
01:39:41.000People who do news, you know, April O'Neil, they want the exclusive.
01:39:57.000So I go, hold on, we tell him exactly what we had, and we show him the cryptic app, and I'm like, hold on a second, we're not, here are the police.
01:40:04.000So we're showing it to him, and he walks away.
01:41:24.000But I think this, I mean, I hate not to toot our own horn, but I think things like this, I mean, that got, what, 15 million plays on Facebook and a few million on YouTube.
01:41:32.000And the reason we got more mileage is because the news refused to cover it.
01:42:31.000Yeah, I do think they were, I think they prey on losers of society to become part of, I mean, they were so quick to welcome me in, because they need the numbers, and they're willing to accept anybody.
01:44:25.000And that's where the FBI used us to kind of help them.
01:44:28.000What we were talking about earlier, my take on it is that if you're trying to suppress people that hardcore, and it's just a guy who's talking, and that guy turns out to be Ben Shapiro, and you're calling him a Nazi, do you see the yarmulke on his head?
01:45:11.000And if you don't think that he's correct, go debate him.
01:45:14.000Well, it's probably because racist wasn't good enough.
01:45:17.000Calling him a bigot wasn't good enough.
01:45:18.000They just escalate to, okay, well, not to get your attention, and it escalates that way.
01:45:22.000Well, it's like what happened to Jordan Peterson with that woman who had recorded the conversation between the professors that were chastising her for just showing a clip of Jordan Peterson discussing gender pronouns.
01:45:34.000The professors equated her or equated him to Hitler.
01:45:38.000They literally equated Jordan Peterson to Hitler and Milo Yiannopoulos, which is a big spectrum.
01:46:46.000It just kind of took a while for people to find him.
01:46:49.000I think on the show, Ben is the kind of guy, if you want to talk about this and really have someone who goes in the lion's den and he just doesn't care.
01:47:27.000I had him on the show, had a great time talking to him.
01:47:29.000I think he's a very nice guy, very smart guy.
01:47:32.000I feel like there's something happening right now, culturally.
01:47:36.000There's so many people that are freaking out because Donald Trump is the president, that everything is ramped up, and no one can be left-wing enough.
01:47:43.000And I think this is probably one of the reasons why someone would justify having an article like that pedophile thing on Salon.com, and why...
01:47:51.000It seems to be that you can't be progressive enough.
01:47:55.000Everything is getting so over the top and so ridiculous that people are calling other progressives out for not being progressive enough.
01:48:06.000The transgender community is very upset that if you are a white woman wearing a pussy hat, you are mocking people that are women that don't have pussies.
01:48:18.000Specifically black women, because they're not always pink.
01:51:49.000I hate to say it, but we were talking about the Women's March, and it was like, at that point, they were saying, the biggest march of all time.
01:52:28.000Just to give them a dollar and have them spend all day?
01:52:30.000No, I think what's a half a million dollar budget.
01:52:32.000Everyone who works for a leftist think tank, everyone who works for a leftist non-profit, everyone who works for the SEIU or is a part of the union, this now becomes a part of your job description to show up in solidarity and support them.
01:52:43.000It's the same reason they support Antifa, even though it's silly, and they support Black Lives Matter.
01:52:46.000I don't think you're right about that.
01:52:47.000I think there's a lot of people that love to march.
01:55:06.000Get out there now to celebrate the historic milestones and unprecedented economic success and wealth creation that has taken place over the last 12 months.
01:55:13.000Lowest female unemployment in 18 years!
01:55:51.000But to your point that they were pissed off that these students who were, like a lot of people, just there for the movement, were pissed off that the union people didn't show up and they're supposed to come in in the busloads, the union workers, and didn't show up.
01:56:03.000The only people who showed up were the people paid by the organization.
01:56:38.000Does this depend on where you're talking about?
01:56:40.000Like if you're in Lansing, Michigan, maybe.
01:56:42.000But if you're in L.A., these marches are giant.
01:56:44.000Well, you're in L.A. No, but there are some, but for every one that you see that the media says, okay, this is all hands on deck, there are 40, no one shows up.
01:56:52.000We had that even in New York City with the fight for 15. That makes sense, though.
01:56:55.000I mean, how many times can you get people to march?
01:58:23.000It's not even just political people, either.
01:58:24.000I mean, just a couple days ago, he went after somebody, some rapper or something.
01:58:28.000Jay-Z! Jay-Z was talking about how he goes, Jay-Z apparently doesn't understand that the lowest unemployment rate for blacks ever is going on right now.
01:58:37.000Because that really affects Jay-Z a lot.
02:01:21.000He's aggressively hospitable, because he left me a voicemail when we were all sitting there, and we were like, hey, Jared, come on, come on, don't be a pussy, just right down the street, come on.
02:01:29.000Antifa was just chasing us around, and they were like, if you find this guy, punch him and let us know, and we had people snapping pictures of us, and so we got to go, this is what we did, we were undercover at South by Southwest, and we get a voicemail like, I just don't understand why we have studios here and we can protect you, and we're just like, you don't understand,
02:01:45.000we are halfway to Waco, we're out of town.
02:01:48.000He was really trying to be very hospitable, but we were just trying to get out of town.
02:01:52.000I got more hate from that episode, too.
02:01:55.000But also, I was like, look, don't you see why I love him?
02:01:57.000Like, you see him when he's drunk and stoned, and we're having a great time.
02:02:01.000He's talking about interdimensional child molesters.
02:02:16.000I think he's dropped that since then, and he tries to come up with some caveats or something like that, or some things when we're not shown that we're real.
02:02:24.000New evidence has come to my attention.
02:02:26.000Yeah, I don't know what the fuck that was all about.
02:02:29.000I've heard that one from a few careless people.
02:03:16.000Yeah, so I... I would imagine that what's going on is there's probably somebody that helped him get the guns and helped him move them up into the room or something along the lines.
02:03:32.000One of the girls who was a ring card girl was there while it happened, and she escaped narrowly with her life while people were dropping right in front of her as she was running.
02:04:51.000One of the girls that was at the UFC, she got her leg blown out because someone got shot and killed right in front of her and the guy fell on her leg and it blew her ACL out.
02:04:59.000One of the fighters from the UFC? No, no, no.
02:05:02.000One of the girls who was at the event.
02:05:03.000And then Dana White got a bunch of people that got shot and everything.
02:05:32.000I mean, so I'm not saying this is a left-wing extremist, but it is weird that we didn't really hear a whole lot after that.
02:05:36.000This guy didn't give a fuck who he was killing.
02:05:38.000He wasn't trying to kill country music people.
02:05:40.000He did this at other music events, too, where he showed up and scanned it and got hotel rooms and overlooked the exact same sort of a scenario.
02:06:32.000But actually, my doctor actually did genetic testing where we did it in the office to check, you know, for predispositions towards diseases.
02:06:37.000And also you can check to see which medications you might have negative interactions with.
02:06:41.000And they found out for me there were certain painkillers that would be really bad that I wouldn't process super effectively and then some that would work.
02:06:48.000Same thing as far as even like, I think it was Celebrex would have been worse for me to take than Advil.
02:06:54.000So things like that, like this actually works better with your body chemistry.
02:06:57.000And then when you get to psychotropic medication, I mean, think about it.
02:07:01.000Like, I had negative interactions with a list of whatever antidepressants were on there.
02:09:13.000That's my point is what's a kernel of truth of some of these conspiracies.
02:09:16.000But people, they go, hold on a second, the room service bill has two tuna fish sandwiches and one steak tartare, therefore the Jews.
02:09:22.000You know, it's like, well, hold on a second.
02:09:23.000You're making a huge leap, and it makes it hard.
02:09:26.000There's a plus side to new media, which we talk about this all the time.
02:09:30.000We feel a lot of responsibility, especially being more of an entertainment show, where it's great because you can do this show, and you don't have the same kind of time constraints, and you can talk about things authentically, as long as for the YouTube stuff they allow us to.
02:09:42.000But on the flip side is anyone can get information out there, and there are people willing to capitalize on that and proactively lie.
02:09:59.000I mean, if you want to make a video, and if it's compelling, the same flat earth guy, he's got a video on dinosaurs not being real, nuclear bombs being fake, satellites being fake, jujitsu doesn't work, Wing Chun is the shit.
02:10:09.000He's out of his fucking mind, this guy.
02:11:41.000Like, I'm not a scientist, but I know if I throw a baseball from the back of the bus, it's going to the front of the bus because we're starting at the same velocity.
02:11:48.000I mean, this is basic physics that you would learn in high school.
02:11:50.000So that's where, for me, I was like...
02:11:52.000Mount St. Helens doesn't volcano this way.
02:12:26.000Like, we're not scientists, and there's a bunch that you could probably, someone could come on and talk about the Earth's core and talk about the gravitational pull that we'd be like, oh, wow, that's really, I didn't know that.
02:14:13.000Like, church-going Christian, we always kind of joke about him where he's like, you know, I know, like, you know, you can see there's something burning beneath the surface.
02:14:20.000He's like, you know, I know it's not, I know it's not good, but I wanted to kill him.
02:14:25.000Like, at one point he was doing security at SMU, and he was like, I could see him walking up to him.
02:14:29.000I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, hold on, stop.
02:15:15.000And also, the reality is the martial arts from 1970 versus the martial arts from 2018. There's been more radical change in martial arts, the understanding of technique since 1993 to 2018 than there's ever been in the history of martial arts.
02:15:31.000And Bruce Lee was responsible for a big shift from 1970 to the UFC. It's very hard to find a single UFC fighter that wasn't a Bruce Lee fan or isn't currently a Bruce Lee fan.
02:16:19.000He's 25 pounds heavier than two inches taller.
02:16:21.000That's an idea as to how small of a man this is.
02:16:24.000It doesn't mean that he didn't write a good Tao, didn't write a good book.
02:16:28.000The book's great, but it's also plagiarized.
02:16:30.000He took passages in full, without any accreditation at all, and took, and I don't want to say in a bad way, because I think what he was trying to do was just like his whole style.
02:16:40.000He just took big chunks of books on boxing and other different martial arts and took verbatim passages from that.
02:16:48.000Maybe plagiarizing is not the right word, because what he did was like a collection of martial arts technique.
02:16:54.000And so one of the things he did, see if you could find that.
02:18:05.000I mean, literally, like, ragdolled by some guy who was exactly the same size as me.
02:18:08.000Like, oh, okay, now I gotta learn this, because there's no fucking way I can go through life thinking I know how to fight while this guy's out there.
02:18:46.000But Lucas Leche, I think, was just, like, if you're a bigger guy and you go and you roll with him, and he actually accidentally, he just, he did a collar pull with his key.
02:18:53.000It was so hard, I put my hand out to post, and I popped my shoulder out of the socket.
02:18:59.000And so then he gets my back, and I was, like, able, but you can see, and the tape, I don't know if I still have it, I'm doing this, trying to pop my shoulder back in.
02:19:06.000And it was so fast, and I was like, oh, so that's what that's like.
02:20:08.000Well, I hope I'm not wrong, because this is what somebody who I know and respect very well told me, and then I remember reading it somewhere.
02:20:15.000But again, it doesn't take anything away from how I feel about Bruce Lee.
02:20:19.000I think he's very important in the history of martial arts, maybe one of the most important figures ever outside of Hoist Gracie and Elio Gracie.
02:20:26.000It's one thing where the truth is enough, and you wonder why people feel like the truth isn't enough about Bruce.
02:24:03.000I remember him, he was somewhere, and it was like, you know, I couldn't tell you.
02:24:06.000I wouldn't want to speak out of turn, but I remember being surprised because I knew he was far left, and it was kind of like big brother government.
02:24:11.000I'm like, oh, that's weird for you to think big brother's watching but want a bigger big brother.
02:25:53.000You know, there's a lot of people that believe...
02:25:56.000What I find crazy about that is that, you know, this crazy corrupt government, the 9-11 Commission report, okay, George Bush, like a Mark Ruffalo.
02:26:03.000But then you look at the drone strikes with Barack, it's like, all of a sudden, where's code?
02:26:26.000Mike Baker who used to be in the CIA told me that those drone strikes are those are designed or rather Dictated by lawyers like when what what gets passed and what gets passed through?
02:26:37.000It's lawyers lawyers make the final decision.
02:26:39.000Yeah, I was like really he's like yeah lawyers They decide like hey, you know what how many people are in this building that are friendlies?
02:26:46.000So the Jews and Asians decide who's going to be dying over there wait what what son of a bitch First it was Bruce Lee now.
02:26:53.000It's the Asians and the Jews together Well, you know, they do cooperate.