Comedian Joe Scarborough joins us on the Fly On The Wall to talk about his new Netflix special, "Harvey Weinstein's Under the Wire" and much, much more. The Fly On the Wall is a production of Native Creative Podcasts and is produced by Jimmy Seibert and Sarah Abdurrahman. Hosts: and Featuring: , , and . Special thanks to our sponsor, for sponsoring the show, and to our patron, Joe Scarborough for coming on the show and being a part of it. Thanks also to everyone who sent in questions, and thank you to all the fans who sent them in! Thank you so much to Joe Scarborough and his team at Comedy Central and Comedy Central. We couldn't do this without you, and we couldn't have done it without you. Thank you, Joe. We love you, we really appreciate you. We hope you enjoy this episode, and can't wait to do it again next week. If you like what you hear, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, and tell us what you think of it! We're listening to this episode on Anchor.fm/flyontheflip and we'll get back to you next week with a new episode! Thanks, Jimmy and Sarah! XOXO. xoxo, Joe and Sarah - The Flyonthewonderful - Jimmy and the Flyontown Crew "The Flyover Crew" - Sarah and the crew at The Flyover Podcasts Thanks to Joe and the Crew at the Flyover. - Joe and his crew at Comedy Nights at the Aspen Festival Jimmy at the Comedy Club at the Wheeler Opera House in Aspen, Colorado, Colorado and The Comedy Center in Denver, Colorado And thanks to Joe at The Comedy Store at the New York Public House in Los Angeles, Colorado. Jimmy and his amazing wife, Jamie at the Flickz at The Aspen House in Boulder, Colorado at the White House at the Wrigley House at The Wheeler House at Wheeler House and The Improv House in San Francisco, New York City, Colorado on Saturday, NY, NY on Tuesday, October 31st, 2019. Thank You, Joe, for being a pleasure to have us out here! - Thank you for listening and supporting us, Jimmy, for coming out and coming out here and being here and coming back with us on this episode of Flyover!
00:01:01.000And I was like, this isn't even going out to anyone!
00:01:06.000And if it was a nice day, and I had to do my radio shift, I would just come in and simulcast with the FM, because I was on AM, and simulcast with the FM station, because I wanted to go out in the quad.
00:01:20.000I mean, I don't think you could do it and put ads on it, but you could do it as just a fun project, have your own radio show on a podcast where you just play songs.
00:03:16.000Because right now, you know, it's like it happened a couple of months ago, it's still okay, and I'm recording in April, and I'm like, boy, April is like the wire.
00:04:25.000And then they started, just the fucking tsunami of accusations started piling in, which is really incredible when you think about how many years that guy was doing that.
00:04:35.000It's unbelievable how he could get away with that for so long.
00:04:59.000There's so many of these accusations that happen.
00:05:02.000You know, after a while, they pile up, and then there's this, like, anti-male resentment, and then it'll swing back, and it'll normalize, and people are sort of reacting to the Aziz thing, and they say, well, that went a little too far.
00:05:14.000And then the woman who was in charge of, the California woman who was a big Me Too supporter, she got busted.
00:06:36.000That'd be something really wrong with me.
00:06:39.000Well, there was this guy, and see, this is how I like remembering jokes.
00:06:42.000I haven't seen this guy probably tell jokes for 25 years.
00:06:44.000His name is Paul Kelly, and it was right in the 80s, or at the end of the 80s, when women were in the workforce, and that was like one day at a time.
00:07:32.000He told me, and he's kind of an introvert, he told me that he was working in an office once and a woman who was his boss was sexually harassing him.
00:07:40.000And it was completely unwanted and she would grab him and he would lock up and freeze and be uncomfortable.
00:09:49.000Yeah, and I was, you know, I mean, my set went fine, but it wasn't, uh, I'm not on my game right now.
00:09:54.000You know, I have to really start working it again, which I have started, and I'm going out, and it's, uh, it's my, I forgot, it's like, this is all I ever wanted to do in my life was stand-up comedy.
00:12:01.000Now, it was the saddest thing when he died, of course.
00:12:03.000He was my hero, and, you know, I didn't really know him.
00:12:07.000I knew him tangentially, and it was weird to feel that kind of sadness for someone who you don't know personally.
00:12:12.000And so that was a big deal to me, watching Bill Hicks.
00:12:16.000It totally changed my life, and I tried to be like him, of course, like an idiot.
00:12:19.000I tried to be like him, and you can't, right?
00:12:22.000And then one time I was dating this girl, and it might be my wife, I don't know who told me this, but she said, Like, where you come from?
00:12:33.000Because I come from the south side of Chicago, grew up poor, 12 kids, drinking powdered milk, you know, and having the shit beat out of me from the fucking morning till night, right?
00:12:41.000Because I went to Catholic school, a tough neighborhood.
00:12:44.000And she's like, you can't be angry like Bill Hicks, because you look like you come from privilege, money, and you're dressed well.
00:12:51.000I always like to dress nice, because I grew up poor.
00:13:11.000And that is what has connected with people, and that's when I really started selling tickets and everything I wanted to get from comedy, in a sense, I got from this YouTube show.
00:13:23.000So now I can go wherever I want and do a show, and just my fans will show up.
00:13:28.000It's the greatest thing that ever happened in my life.
00:13:30.000Well, you're very good on your YouTube show, and you're also very fair.
00:13:33.000You know, one of the things that I really like about your show is you're obviously a left-leaning guy, but you're very balanced in your criticism of the left, in your criticism of criticism of the left.
00:13:44.000Well, if you have to lie to make your point, you don't have a good point.
00:14:22.000Well, to me, it really started with Bill Clinton in 92, but it didn't get really ramped up until Barack Obama in, like, 2010, when it was clear...
00:14:33.000That Barack Obama was a neoliberal corporatist who was going to do the bidding of the war machine and Wall Street and Big Pharma, which is why when the Democrats got control of government, they had the presidency, the Senate, filibuster-proof Senate for a few months,
00:14:49.000and they had the Congress and the House, and they didn't pass single-payer or even a public option.
00:14:54.000We got a right-wing health care plan anyway, which is a giveaway to the pharma and health insurance companies that left out 28 million fucking people.
00:15:02.000And infuriated small business owners, infuriated people that had a small practice, that there were doctors and all sorts of people that were...
00:16:53.000So I'm one of those guys who, if I want something, no matter what price I have to pay, physical, whatever, I'll pay it, and I'll get that thing I want, right?
00:18:36.000He thought it was a tumor, but they since figured out it was just my own bones leaching of hormone that makes your body leach the chemicals that I need to make bone.
00:20:09.000And And the only thing that kept me from not killing myself was my manager called me and he said, hey, you got that hour special on Comedy Central.
00:20:30.000And then I just knew I had to do this special because I couldn't let all those motherfuckers who said I shouldn't move to L.A. and be a comedian.
00:20:38.000It was about, I'm going to show everybody who doubted me and said I was crazy, I'm going to show them, I'm going to do this goddamn special, it's going to be fucking awesome, and then I kill myself.
00:21:05.000And I went to, so my doctor sends me to this other doctor who vented the operation at USC, and I walk into the office, just like my doctor predicted, he's looking at my chart and he looks up and he goes, what?
00:21:19.000I've only seen this in books, meaning what I have.
00:21:53.000So, by the time we got to do the special eight months later, Dr. Sharp's treatment had kicked in, and they didn't know it was gonna fix it, but it fixed it.
00:22:49.000So in, I don't know, Norway or Denmark, I don't know where, somewhere over there, they have a law that you have to let the cows out of the barn in the spring by this one day.
00:23:00.000Oh, you're talking about the one when the cow jumps out and starts bouncing around?
00:25:06.000So when I went to this Chinese medicine doctor, it was back when I was feeling sick, and so I went to, somebody recommended, you should go to this Chinese medicine.
00:25:46.000When I got out of his office, every time I eat, I'm eating white flour, I'm eating bread, or a pizza, or a pasta, or a cheese, or everything.
00:25:53.000Everything he told me not to eat, that's all I ate.
00:25:55.000So I was like, I remember my girlfriend said, how long are you going to do this?
00:25:58.000I go, at least for a month, because that's how much these herbs are in the $800.
00:26:04.000So by day three, I was leaping out of bed.
00:26:07.000I could not get over how much energy I had.
00:26:09.000Yeah, it's because you don't have that big insulin crash.
00:26:12.000When you're eating all that sugar and all that bread, your body's just fighting that shit off all the time, trying to process it, and then there's this big crash.
00:29:48.000With his wife, and his wife has gloves on, and they're holding the money, and she's smiling, and when she fucking tags, like, Gucci and Cartier and all these different, like, big-time companies in her Instagram posts, when she's stepping off of a fucking private jet,
00:33:15.000Anyway, so I remember when that, also, the Bill Clinton was no friend to the working men.
00:33:22.000In fact, he was this demise, starting of the demise of this country.
00:33:26.000So, you know, Ronald Reagan scared the shit out of the Democrats so much that he decided to become like them.
00:33:31.000And so what Bill Clinton did was he got in bed with Wall Street, the military industrial complex, big pharma, health insurance, and the Koch brothers.
00:33:39.000He started a thing called the Democratic Leadership Council with Al Gore.
00:33:42.000They had executives from the Koch brothers on the Democratic Leadership Council.
00:33:45.000They completely turned their back on the working man.
00:33:48.000And what happens when you have two parties that are in bed with management?
00:33:54.000They gutted welfare at the same time they explored the prison population, called black kids super predators, at the same time they did NAFTA. And then they deregulated Wall Street, which crashed the economy within 10 years.
00:34:46.000Because of the WikiLeaks emails that Hillary Clinton had a thing called the Pied Piper strategy, which was, she told her minions in the press, please prop up Donald Trump.
00:34:57.000Why did she want Donald Trump to be propped up?
00:34:59.000Because she wanted to run against Donald Trump, because she knew that she was so repulsive to most of the country, she needed someone who was more repulsive than her.
00:35:07.000Turns out, that was a bad calculation.
00:35:11.000So that's called the Pied Piper strategy.
00:35:12.000That's why you turn on Chris Hayes and he would show Donald Trump's empty podium for an hour instead of a Bernie Sanders.
00:35:19.000And then he wags his finger at people with no money and no power for not voting for a corporatist warmonger like Hillary Clinton.
00:35:25.000Why do you think the people in Michigan wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton?
00:35:29.000Maybe because she put half of them in fucking prison?
00:35:31.000Maybe because she passed NAFTA and Barack Obama was trying to sell TPP at the top of his lungs at the same time she was trying to get working people to vote for her?
00:35:54.000Well, there's also a really sneaky thing that happens where you have two parties, and one of them you think of as this conservative, warmongering party, which automatically makes the other party the enemy of that.
00:36:40.000The last enemy they invented was ISIS. ISIS, I don't know, we're supposed to shit our pants over them, Joe, because they have kitchen knives.
00:36:48.000They'll cut your head off with a kitchen knife.
00:36:49.000That's what I'm supposed to be afraid of?
00:36:53.000It's amazing how they can keep us scared so they can keep perpetual war going.
00:36:58.000This is an Orwellian nightmare, and the Democrats right now should be screaming about the Pentagon budget, but they're not screaming about it because they're complicit!
00:37:11.000So when they tell you that we're broke and we can't afford stuff, they don't mean we can't afford trillion-dollar wars, trillion-dollar bank bailouts, billion-dollar oil subsidies, and prison construction.
00:37:22.000They mean we can't afford shit like healthcare, or education, or roads, or bridges, or firemen, or libraries, or anything that makes your fucking life better.
00:37:29.000Because whenever they need bombs, they got it.
00:41:58.000And that's why a lot of people said they felt more comfortable voting for Trump, because Hillary actually promised more war in Syria than he did.
00:42:06.000And that's turning out to be true, because she wanted a no-fly zone, which means we're going to shoot down a Russian jet?
00:42:21.000There's no anti-war movement in the country that's represented by a political party right now.
00:42:25.000Do you think that this right, though, the way the left is attacking Donald Trump from the right, as you say it, don't you think it's just because they see an opening there to criticize and to point out his vulnerabilities?
00:42:37.000What they're doing, this whole Russian narrative...
00:42:41.000Is the establishment not wanting to examine the system that gave us Donald Trump?
00:42:45.000And so they want to distract you with Russia until we get to the next election.
00:45:38.000Well, I'll tell you, so 63% of the country can't afford a $1,000 emergency.
00:45:41.000Half the country right now is either poor or low income.
00:45:45.00050% of all wage earners earn less than $30,000 a year in the richest country in the world.
00:45:50.000Jack Ma, who is the Jeff Bezos of Asia, he runs the Amazon of Asia, and he said, you know, the problem with the United States isn't making money, it's that you guys don't distribute it right.
00:46:02.000Well, that's some communist shit coming over from China.
00:46:04.000You're going to let that slide by, Jimmy Dore?
00:46:06.000Well, it's called those communist billionaires are buying up all our real estate.
00:46:09.000How the fuck did a socialist country produce all those billionaires?
00:46:14.000As soon as they got into communism, or into capitalism rather, they did it in a very ruthless way.
00:46:19.000I mean, you look at what, it's really kind of fucked up, like what's going on with some of the places where we buy our goods, like Foxconn, where they make iPhones, they have nets around the building to keep people from fucking jumping off.
00:46:30.000But when Trump has been in office for only a year, he can't expect all those things to change, but his argument has been that those things are improving.
00:48:01.000Unions is one of the things that actually cushions the blow of the brutalities of a free market, right?
00:48:09.000So you have unions, you have social programs, because capitalism fucks everybody, and so you have to have all these things in place to kind of cushion the blow of it.
00:48:25.000But people that I know that were in unions, particularly some friends that I have that were in the auto union, were saying that it was getting completely bloated.
00:48:33.000They were having two people doing a job that was only for one person, and there was all this...
00:48:39.000There was all this real, wanton, purposeful waste.
00:48:44.000And this was all designed into certain contracts.
00:48:47.000This is a buddy of mine that was an auto worker in Detroit.
00:48:50.000He said, we had shifts where there was supposed to be two people on the job, but everybody knew it was a real simple thing.
00:49:02.000And it was just common, and there were several of those.
00:49:05.000And he goes, and you were getting $100,000 a year, $200,000 a year for some jobs, just ridiculous amounts of money for jobs that really didn't warrant that kind of income.
00:49:14.000And he said this was all negotiated into the contract.
00:49:17.000He's like, it's a good thing to give fair wages and healthy wages and health insurance and all these different things.
00:49:23.000He said, but it was unquestionably bloated, which opened the door to all these factories going to Mexico and all these other places.
00:49:30.000Well, what opened the door for those factories?
00:49:34.000First of all, it's kind of anti-logical to think that the union would say, no, we're not going to negotiate on this and go ahead and take our jobs, both of those jobs, to Mexico.
00:51:20.000I was talking about this yesterday with Johan Hari who wrote a book on depression and one of the major causes being the way people live their lives without control, doing things they don't want to do.
00:51:29.000And he was saying that somewhere in the neighborhood of 87% of the people are doing things they don't want to be doing most of the time.
00:51:38.000And I was making the argument that we've set up this structure that's just completely ridiculous and we've stuck with it because it's just the way we've always done things.
00:54:04.000Yeah, and I would tell people that, and they were like, huh?
00:54:07.000Because they only knew him from The Tonight Show.
00:54:09.000And I'm like, I don't know what he's doing on that show, but he's the funniest guy in the world.
00:54:12.000It would be like if Dave Chappelle, before he did Chappelle's show, decided to host a talk show and then completely stopped anything controversial and completely stopped having an opinion on anything.
00:54:25.000If you look at that, when Jay Leno used to go on David Letterman...
00:55:04.000And a couple times, one time I was on, and during the break, I sat there with Jay, and I said, I think it was the first time I was on, I said, hey, man.
00:55:13.000I go, what was up with that Bill Hicks bit?
00:55:55.000I don't think he expected me to ask it to him.
00:55:58.000I had him on the podcast, and he was fucking fantastic.
00:56:01.000Because after he'd retired, he told some stories about doing stand-up for mob people, and about this guy fucking screaming at a priest, you fucking motherfucker, put the fucking...
00:56:09.000And it was a hilarious thing to watch Jay Leno telling hilarious stories...
00:56:16.000And swearing like a fucking longshoreman.
00:56:40.000We would, if the worse the comedian, the better.
00:56:43.000We'd have three specials lined up for a night.
00:56:46.000We'd be like, fuck, this is going to be great!
00:56:48.000And we found out after, I found out that Jay Leno used to do the same thing.
00:56:53.000When he would see a comic that he didn't think, you know, he thought was horrible, he would hunt down a tape of it and then everyone would have to come over to his house and they'd watch it.
00:57:02.000This is a story I heard, so maybe this isn't.
00:59:18.000The fact that he said that Trump's mouth, but that he uses his mouth as Putin's cock holster, the fact that they said that on CBS, I was like, wow, this is what happens when you have to compete with the internet.
00:59:30.000Who the fuck could have imagined ever in your wildest dream?
00:59:34.000That lefty comedians would be doing McCarthy smears?
00:59:37.000Right on national TV. But a joke like that.
00:59:41.000I get the McCarthyism thing, but the joke of a cockholster, the president's mouth being used as Putin's cockholster, that that would be on CBS. I get that you're applauding that he broke a boundary.
00:59:57.000I'm just saying it's fascinating that we've changed what's the bar, what you're allowed to do.
01:00:03.000And because it's Trump, if they said that about Hillary Clinton, if he said, because look at all this Russia dossier memo shit that's coming out.
01:00:13.000I mean, it turns out that a lot of this stuff is horseshit.
01:00:16.000So a lot of people who weren't around for the first McCarthy shit, they're getting to experience it now.
01:01:39.000But nobody talks about that because Saudi Arabia is supposed to be on our side, even with a repressive theocracy that beheads people in the streets.
01:01:45.000But we like them because of the petrodollar, which no one ever talks about the petrodollar.
01:02:01.000We promised Saudi Arabia the use of our military anywhere they wanted, as long as they would convert every dollar of oil that someone bought for them in American dollars.
01:02:11.000So if you want to buy oil from Saudi Arabia, you first have to convert your currency into American dollars.
01:02:14.000Which is the real reason why we invaded Iraq the first time.
01:04:02.000I mean, I think that what we're dealing with is an exposure of sexual assault, exposure of sexual harassment, sexual assault, particularly in the workplace.
01:04:11.000You know, and this is a giant issue for people that have to work alongside men and women, and they develop these little communities inside these little boxes that we call offices, and things get really fucking weird.
01:04:22.000And if you have a boss that's a piece of shit, And he's constantly harassing the women that work there, and it becomes a living hell with them.
01:05:27.000There's no women who are lusting after him.
01:05:29.000It was his power and his money that got him into a position where he could get some pussy.
01:05:34.000And then having power over all these actresses and then hearing whether it's Uma Thurman or whatever famous actress, Salma Hayek, all these superstars.
01:05:45.000We're fighting this guy off in hotel rooms.
01:06:36.000I don't remember the exact quote, but it was something along the lines of, we have to make a differentiation between sexual assault and men hitting on women.
01:06:48.000What's really interesting is seeing how they're acting about this in France and in Europe.
01:06:53.000A lot of women, especially older actors.
01:07:06.000My friend Tiago from Brazil told me once, he's like, man, he goes, if you're in Brazil and he goes, if you're with a girl, you don't try to fuck her.
01:07:14.000She's like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
01:07:16.000Like, you're not even trying to fuck me?
01:09:23.000So I would tell her, I remember the first night we were together, I was like, hey, I know you're going to say you want me to go home, but you're going to worry that I'm too tired to drive and that I might get in an accident, so you don't have to say that, I'll just stay.
01:09:59.000The problem is people have physical needs, and they get attracted to each other, and the next thing you know, look, there's been many times in my life where I wind up having sex with somebody who turned out to be crazy.
01:10:08.000And then, you know, you're one, two dates in, and you're like, yeah, she seems cool, and next thing you know, you're hanging out, and a week or two later, and she does something completely fucking insane, and then the crazy just starts leaking out of her pores, and you're like, oh, well, now what have I done?
01:10:21.000I've entangled myself with some person who knows where I live and expects me to call them every day and we're going to get together and I have to figure out a way to back out of this.
01:10:30.000And then you try to back out of it and they get fucking angry at you.
01:10:34.000This is back in the old days when people would actually call you up angry too.
01:10:38.000There was no text messaging back then.
01:10:40.000You'd just pick up the phone and someone starts yelling at you.
01:10:42.000Yeah, or I would just duck them for a while until they found some new guy.
01:10:45.000Remember when people used to answer their phone?
01:10:59.000Do you ever have, I answered a call, because I didn't, because, you know, you're like, oh, maybe it's that business I just called or calling.
01:13:02.000Bitch, you're 40. But it was helpful to me because he broke up the family dynamic, and he talked about how people act, and I come from a big family, 12 kids, and that, you know, how it's, like, it all balances out.
01:13:55.000I'm like, if I don't, it will fall apart.
01:13:58.000There was a kid that I started out with.
01:13:59.000We both started out together, and he was a pretty funny guy.
01:14:02.000And he got this girlfriend that was just very demanding, and he stopped doing stand-up less and less.
01:14:07.000He was doing less and less sets, and then eventually he dropped out.
01:14:10.000And then I ran into his son many years later.
01:14:13.000And his son, you know, they wound up having a baby, and his son was saying that his dad just really regretted not getting into comedy.
01:14:21.000I'm sure he's happy he has a nice son and all that stuff, and he had a family, but it just, it tanked him.
01:14:26.000You know, there's a saying, I think it might have been Carl Jung, who said, nothing affects a child more than the unlived life of its parent.
01:14:36.000So, imagine being a father, and you went after your dream, and you gave it everything you can.
01:14:42.000Now you can impart that to your kid, and your kid just absorbs it, being around you.
01:14:46.000Now you didn't do that, you have all that...
01:14:49.000On your resentment or whatever you feel because you didn't live what your life you were supposed to, and then you can't pass that off, and your kid absorbs that, too.
01:14:57.000Well, I knew it was so hard to do anyway.
01:14:59.000It was going to be so hard to make it, and the odds are stacked against you.
01:15:02.000You're seeing everybody else drop off like flies.
01:15:13.000And so when I would see, when I have relationships and I'd see those signs where girls are just demanding more and more of my time, why do you have to go up tonight?
01:15:20.000I'm like, I have to go up four or five nights a week.
01:19:35.000So, when April rolls around, after I'm done and I chuck everything aside, I'm on a fucking rampage for like three, four months of just doing 10, 15 minute spots, writing a bunch of new shit, and trying to piece together an hour.
01:19:48.000Then, it's going to take me a month or two to try to sort that hour out.
01:19:52.000Try to figure out where everything goes and what the punchlines are.
01:19:55.000Listening to recordings, writing things down, burning the midnight oil late at night.
01:20:01.000I mean, I'm assuming I can do it, but once I chuck my act aside, once the act that you saw that you thought was funny, that fucking thing's going in the toilet.
01:20:55.000So I'm going to do my own special and put it on my own thing, because I don't know where that even, like that Hulu special, it lives on Hulu somewhere.
01:21:52.000I was happier when my whole life was ahead of me, and when I first started hanging out at Largo and doing sets at the Improv and meeting all my heroes in comedy, to me, that was...
01:26:16.000But I don't know why, it seems like there's some sort of internal conflict between you getting angry and ranting and talking about things that are very important to you and then going on stage and doing stand-up.
01:26:27.000I don't think that they should be mutually exclusive.
01:26:30.000No, I'm trying to bring them together now.
01:26:31.000My wife would always tell me, you gotta rant on your stand-up set.
01:26:41.000Just got to find out a way to make that rant funny, and then, you know, find perspectives that are relatable, where you go into this rant, but then bring it to these people in a digestible way, you know?
01:27:05.000I did a live show at the Flappers in Burbank and I showed a video of Keith Olbermann apologizing to John McCain and George Bush on The View.
01:27:40.000He could deconstruct what was wrong with Hillary Clinton back in 2008 when she was running against Barack Obama.
01:27:46.000And he could deconstruct what was wrong with the Iraq war and what was wrong with Bush and Cheney.
01:27:50.000But I don't know, somehow, all of a sudden now, it's like, again, Trump excites his lizard brain, and all his critical thinking skills go out the window, and he pretends that Trump is the problem and not a symptom of the problem.
01:28:03.000Well, it was like a scene in a movie when he was doing that.
01:28:05.000It looked like he was doing a show in the basement somewhere with this weird background.
01:28:13.000But he was also, he didn't, wasn't making connections.
01:28:16.000Like, was that really pretty conservative girl, Tammy Lauren, is that her name?
01:28:24.000She did a thing where she was covered in the American flag and he was talking about how hypocritical it is to be standing there holding and draping yourself in the American flag and then Donald Trump Jr. posts a picture of Tammy Lauren right next to him doing the same thing and Donald Trump Jr. says it must be painful to be so stupid.
01:28:47.000Well, I don't even understand how he could have not known he took that picture to be saying that.
01:29:11.000I mean, he's got this sort of old-schooly type delivery that I enjoy.
01:29:15.000He's a great broadcaster, and you always hear stories about his idiosyncrasies like he's a prick to work with and stuff, and you go, well, fuck, what are you going to do?
01:30:18.000They were in the middle of some meeting in the Senate, and they were deciding something incredibly important, and they busted McCain playing poker on Syria.
01:33:14.000I never advocated for a war like the Washington Post, New York Times, MSNBC, and CNN. You're going to judge me over some fucking thing I said or did?
01:35:01.000You keep coming at him that, oh, his guy with the battered wife, he gives a...
01:35:07.000Meanwhile, they're spending $160 billion more on bombs that nobody wants.
01:35:12.000Meanwhile, half the country's poor or low-income, 63% of Americans can't afford a $1,000 emergency in the richest country the face of the earth has ever seen.
01:35:19.000All the benefits of this recovery has gone to the upper 1%.
01:35:25.000You know, I just saw the AFL-CIO, you know, so like I was telling you, people give me shit because I wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton, right?
01:35:33.000The AFL-CIO tweeted out last week that the unions have helped give Democrats complete control of government four times in the last three decades, and they have done nothing to help unions.
01:35:59.000So people who are wagging their finger at me, I go, hey, even the unions agree with me now that we've got to have a third party.
01:36:05.000And if Bernie Sanders would have went with a third party instead of propping up that corporatist warmonger like he did, he could have really changed politics in America.
01:36:12.000If Jill Stein and the Green Party would have got 10 or 15 percent of the vote or even 5 percent of the vote, it would have completely changed politics in America because now the Democrats, they wag their finger at their base and then they move to the right.
01:36:24.000Like Hillary Clinton wagged her finger at the base and then picked Tim Kaine, who was to the right of her.
01:37:40.000They appear spineless because it looks like they're not doing what they're supposed to or they're not, and they're not doing what they said they would do, which is stand up for the people, but they're secretly standing up for their donors.
01:37:51.000They have a steel spine when it comes to their donors, which is why they just gave Trump $160 billion.
01:37:57.000Can I make one last point about Donald Trump?
01:38:00.000So this shows you how they're full of shit.
01:38:02.000When you say Donald Trump is an existential threat to our country and a maniac and he has his finger on the button, and then you vote to give him $160 billion more in bombs, I think you're full of shit when you say he's an existential maniac.
01:38:15.000If you say that this guy is unhinged and you can't be trusted, and then you vote to expand his warrantless wiretapping and spying powers on his own enemies in the country, that's what I know and you're full of shit.
01:38:26.000Because if they really wanted to check Trump, they would check him on the military, the Pentagon budget, and his spying powers.
01:38:33.000So if he's really a maniac, those motherfuckers are the most irresponsible people in the world giving him all this extra power for the Pentagon and spying.
01:38:52.000Yeah, but getting it since 2016. The thing that always killed me about Hillary Clinton more when I would talk to super Democrats, like people that were just completely tribal, they're on the Democratic side no matter what, I'd go, you know, she didn't support gay marriage until 2013. She was the last one!
01:39:08.000You know, there was a sexual harasser on her campaign in 2008, and she didn't fire the fucking guy.
01:39:12.000In fact, she covered for him, and then he went on to sexually harass again in another organization tied to Hillary Clinton, correct the record.
01:39:19.000Well, the problem is, I think, when you're close to her, you find out all the dirty details, what's going on behind the scenes, and it's just a creepy, creepy organization.
01:39:28.000She was such a flawed person for feminists to wrap their flag around.
01:39:41.000It was because Trump, it was exactly what Hillary Clinton wanted, the Pied Piper strategy.
01:39:45.000You can't even entertain not voting for Hillary Clinton because of this existential threat of Trump, and he's such an existential threat, we're going to vote to expand his spying powers and give him a below the military budget.
01:39:55.000Well, it was all this hashtag I'm with her stuff, too, where they wanted to have one female president.
01:40:46.000One of my big things is the reason why I have a show is because mainstream news media sucks so bad, and the reason why you have this show is because late-night talk shows suck so bad, right?
01:42:43.000He's saying that he leaked stuff to him.
01:42:46.000There are consequences leaking stuff to WikiLeaks.
01:42:48.000Seth Rich was murdered at 4 o'clock in the morning, shot in the back.
01:42:52.000They said it was a boss robbery, but no one took anything from him, and there's never been anyone that's charged with it, and there's no suspects.
01:43:30.000And then the next day I did another video which debunked that guy Wheeler who was pushing that story because he turned out he was full of shit.
01:44:49.000He was probably shattered by finding out that the party that he was working for was corrupting the democratic process.
01:44:55.000And because I've said this before, you know, I've been accused of helping Donald Trump win by really wacky people online.
01:45:02.000Like, by pointing out all the flaws of Hillary Clinton.
01:45:04.000Like, look, man, you can't ignore that shit because you want one side to win.
01:45:09.000I've talked about all of his flaws, too.
01:45:12.000There's a lot of flawed human beings who run for president, pretty much all of them.
01:45:16.000I mean, it's very rare you have someone who's not flawed, extremely flawed, we're all flawed, but extremely flawed, who wants to be the fucking king of the world.
01:45:24.000Well, you know, not to change subjects, but Barack Obama, everyone thinks is the greatest guy in the world, you know, in contrast to Donald Trump, because he was polite.
01:46:52.000You know, Glenn Greenwald used to be a hero on the left until he started telling the truth about Barack Obama, and now he's a pariah.
01:46:58.000So, to the people on, you know, Thomas Frank, I don't know if you know, you would love that guy if you ever met him.
01:47:04.000He wrote that book called What's the Matter with Kansas, which is examining what's wrong with conservatives, and then he wrote a book called Listen Liberal.
01:47:12.000Which came out, I think, two years ago.
01:47:14.000And he is persona non grata on MSNBC, CNN. Nobody will talk to him, because he critiqued the left.
01:49:52.000But when it comes to things that are rock solid and clear, like that Seth Rich was murdered and people want to ignore it, I'm like, what the fuck do you think happened?
01:49:59.000There has to be some sort of a disconnect here.
01:50:02.000When a person is giving information to WikiLeaks that exposes corruption inside the very organization that's responsible for the fucking Democratic Party, and he gets murdered, and you're like, oh, the conspiracy theories.
01:51:03.000He's been so fucked, and it's because the CIA wants him so bad, and they control everybody, and now they have influence over Ecuador, and they're trying to fuck, they're trying to get a Halliburton guy to be their new, anyway.
01:51:18.000I wouldn't be surprised if shit like that happened.
01:51:19.000If more stuff comes out, like the Seth Rich stuff, the amount of people, and this is where I leak any conspiracy theories, the amount of people connected to the Hillary Clinton organization, to the Clinton Foundation, to Bill Clinton, the amount of people that have been iced is stunning.
01:51:33.000Some of them are bullshit and coincidental, and you know people, and they're in a weird job, and people get killed.
01:51:38.000There's a lot of people that have been killed.
01:52:39.000If you believe Trump is corrupt by doing deals with oligarchs, this is Dylan Radigan talking.
01:52:43.000You also have to believe that Hillary Clinton did arms deals around the country while personally enriching herself, and Barack Obama is paid off by the...
01:52:51.000Wall Street and the health insurance companies and Big Pharma, so we don't have a functioning money sector or a healthcare sector.
01:52:58.000It's hard to believe one and not believe the other two.
01:53:00.000That's what Dylan Rattigan says, and I believe that fucking guy.
01:53:03.000He's an award-winning journalist, and he said, if you believe Trump is corrupt in this, and he goes, and it's easy to believe, it's all no fucking problem, but you also have to believe this.
01:53:09.000You have to believe Hillary Clinton did arms deals all around the world, enriching herself to the tunes of millions of dollars.
01:53:15.000You can't believe one and not the other.
01:53:16.000So my whole point is, when people try to pretend that Trump is the problem, they're missing the problem.
01:53:21.000The problem is the neoliberal system that gave us Trump, that renders 63% of the population without enough funds to handle a $1,000 emergency in the richest country in the world.
01:55:03.000Donald Trump says, grab him by the pussy, or Barack Obama says, I'm going to fix everything for you, and then he kicks your family out of your house, 5.1 million families out of their house, while making Wall Street whole.
01:55:14.000And then when he comes back into public life after retiring, the first thing he does is give half a million dollar speeches to banks.
01:56:13.000We're so fucked up in this country, Joe, that we nominate the most repulsive neoliberal corporatist warmonger in the history of the Democratic Party.
02:00:11.000So let's say of all the people we can count, he's the richest guy.
02:00:15.000A billionaire friend of mine, who's a legitimate billionaire, Told me that it's entirely possible that some of these guys are trillionaires.
02:00:40.000So they fucking put all that shit that they have to put into the sky to make it rain, which they've been doing forever, cloud seeding, but insanely expensive.
02:00:51.000So do you see a problem with the richest guy in the world owning the political paper of note and being in bed with the CIA and he's on a Pentagon board?
02:01:20.000There was a guy who was a writer for the Washington Post, wrote something in the Huffington Post that was critical of Amazon, and he got disciplined at the Washington Post for doing that.
02:02:06.000They literally have a countdown on their tablet.
02:02:09.000And the countdown says, you know, like, I don't know what the amount of time is, but you have to run and find that fucking product and get it in the box and get it shipped out inside a very small window of time.
02:02:21.000He goes, yeah, you literally run, because if you don't meet your countdown, he goes, you can only, like, get away with that for a certain amount of times, then you get in real trouble.
02:02:30.000So they also have these new things, the wrists, the bands that they've just developed.
02:04:11.000But first of all, Jeff Bezos, because he owns the paper, he got the...
02:04:14.000Trump was right when he said he's there to get the tax in his favor, because he was able to go around and hollow out economies of Main Street, little small towns all around, because he didn't have to pay taxes, the income tax, for Amazon.
02:04:27.000And so the brick-and-mortar places did.
02:04:29.000He closed them down by undercutting them, right?
02:04:32.000And now he's opening up brick-and-mortar stores.
02:04:34.000He closed out all the Barnes and Nobles and the Borders books, and now he's opening up Amazon bookstores.
02:04:48.000Now, how many of those people use it for television?
02:04:51.000This is my question, because I know that Amazon started to make, apparently, some very good shows, but I don't hear anybody talking about watching them.
02:04:59.000Like, apparently, Billy Bob Thornton has a really good show on Amazon.
02:05:03.000And I know there was that Jeffrey Tambor show that got tanked.
02:05:07.000Do you know that's an interesting Me Too story?
02:05:12.000Because he was playing a transvestite or transgender person.
02:05:16.000And there was people, and he's not transgender, and there was people on the show apparently that were very upset that a non-transgender person was playing a transgender person.
02:05:55.000We all like to fucking feel a little weird or whatever.
02:05:58.000I go, but, you know, I don't go out in public.
02:06:02.000But then I realized this is an actual thing with a lot of people that they're actually born to have the different feeling than their outside.
02:06:08.000Then I realized it was a thing, and so now I don't do that anymore.
02:06:15.000There's definitely people that have issues in their mind where they wish that they were a different thing than what they are.
02:06:20.000I think the thing that concerns me more about transgender people than anything is this acceptance of using hormone blockers for young children.
02:06:30.000And I just think that is fucking insane.
02:06:32.000And this is something that the liberal progressives are pushing at an alarming rate.
02:07:34.000This guy was fucking miserable, but he was trying to tell me that it's a good thing to be married because when you're married, you have to answer to someone and that someone tells you what to do.
02:07:58.000Fucking throwing buckets of Gatorade on your head.
02:08:01.000The whole thing was ridiculous, but it was literally, there's a misery loves company thing that happens.
02:08:06.000So people who are married want you to be married, too.
02:08:09.000Now, I'm not saying that's absolutely what's going on with people who are transgender, but they're most certainly in support of more people doing it.
02:08:17.000And I don't know if that is why they would lean towards having six-year-olds take hormone blockers, but if you criticize that in any way, you are thought to be transphobic.
02:08:27.000And this is a real issue today, where people are bringing this up over and over again.
02:08:32.000I don't know why anyone would think that it's a good idea to take a six-year-old and put them on hormone blockers when they don't know what the fuck is going on with the world.
02:08:42.000They're going through all this growth and development and for you to chemically hijack that for an ideology seems to me as an outsider to be fucking insane.
02:08:52.000But to talk about it, you run the risk of being thought of as being transphobic.
02:08:56.000It's a very strange time to discuss things.
02:09:00.000Because you can't have an opinion about it because, oh, you're a cisgendered white man with all sorts of privilege.
02:09:22.000There's a time and a place to say that someone is talking down to people.
02:09:25.000If they happen to be a man, that's fine.
02:09:27.000But the problem with the term mansplaining is anytime a man is correct, if a woman is saying something that's incorrect and a man corrects her, he's mansplaining.
02:09:47.000So it's people hijacking certain things.
02:09:50.000I think that what's going on with hashtag MeToo and a lot of things in this society is we're undergoing a radical cultural change, and it's brought about by information.
02:10:01.000I think we are way more aware of each other's feelings, way more aware of what's okay, way more aware of what we're willing to tolerate and what we're not willing to tolerate.
02:10:09.000And if you go back to the 1930s and the 1940s and watch old films where people would smack the shit out of women and rape them and do all kinds of crazy stuff, and it was thought to be normal.
02:11:53.000So I think what those things represent, obviously it's fiction, right?
02:11:57.000But what it also represents is what was acceptable culturally to witness in a film.
02:12:03.000That is not acceptable culturally to witness in a film now, especially from the fucking hero of the show.
02:12:09.000I think today we're more aware than ever before of how people feel, of how people think, of what's acceptable, what's not, and what was wrong with the way people used to behave.
02:12:20.000Whereas it was just, we were operating on momentum in the 30s and 40s and 50s and 60s and 70s.
02:12:25.000The internet came along and people were just sharing information at this unprecedented pace.
02:13:54.000All my side's inaccuracy has been criticized by Hendrix's friends, his former girlfriend, disgusted by scenes depicting domestic violence, never consulted her about her portrayal.
02:14:07.000Someone had said that there was a situation where Jimi was in the other room and he hit his girlfriend.
02:14:14.000Like someone was talking about it from a first-person perspective.
02:14:17.000I don't know if that was the girlfriend.
02:14:19.000The fascinating thing about Jimmy was that he had this gangster manager who had him kidnapped.
02:14:24.000His manager had him kidnapped so that he could release him, so that he could rescue him, so that he could keep Jimmy on as a client.
02:14:31.000And this is all that came from a really recent book that was one of the gangster guy's bodyguards, like one of the people that worked for him.
02:14:41.000So he was afraid that Jimmy was going to get rid of him as a manager, so he engineered a kidnapping that he could solve, and then Jimmy would feel indebted and bring him on as his manager.
02:14:50.000And this guy who wrote this book, I don't know how much of this is real and how much of it's bullshit, but thinks that they murdered Jimi Hendrix, and then right after that, the girlfriend of Jimi Hendrix was thrown off of a roof.
02:15:53.000That was the one reason why everybody was willing to believe that the Comedy Store was haunted.
02:15:57.000If you look at the haunted dictionary of places or the directory of places, the comedy store is one of the top places on the list in Hollywood.
02:17:49.000If somebody would have whispered in my ear when I was 18 years old, you know how I had a lot of anxiety as a kid, like, what am I going to do with my life?
02:18:05.000Yeah, and that's how I became a comic.
02:18:08.000If somebody would have whispered in my ear when I was younger, like, hey, this is how it's going to work out, I'd have been a lot more relaxed.
02:18:14.000Yeah, but then you would have made it.
02:19:02.000You have to go through that all the time.
02:19:04.000It's a muscle that has to constantly be exercised.
02:19:07.000It's like you're talking about doing stand-up, like Jerry Seinfeld saying, take four days off, and you feel it, take five days off, people know it.
02:19:13.000Yeah, that's the same thing with struggle.
02:19:15.000You've got to constantly be engaged in improvement and trying to figure out how to improve things.
02:19:43.000You know, when I was on the road, I remember, like, even in El Tassel, Texas, I'd be working and I would do two shows and I would go home afterwards to the condo and I would listen to both shows.
02:21:49.000And that's when I started listening to Eckhart Tolle, and I started to try to be present, try to learn how to enjoy the moment more, and the doing.
02:23:34.000And the more you concentrate on getting it better, and the more you tighten it up, and that's where the real happiness in performing is, is in doing a great job.
02:23:42.000It's not in like the places that you go.
02:23:44.000I still get nervous, like in some places I'll get nervous.
02:23:47.000You know, like I did the theater at Madison Square Garden, that made me nervous.
02:23:51.000I was like, holy shit, I'm performing at the fucking garden.
02:23:54.000But then after the show was over, I was like, well, that was a show.
02:26:39.000Like Dennis Miller's Black and White, that was, I think, the greatest example of capturing that.
02:26:43.000But Bill, I just thought it was like, well, Bill's funny in person, but he doesn't transfer to TV that well, because his specials didn't come anywhere close to being how funny he was in real life.
02:26:52.000I think he just never, they never got it right.
02:26:54.000I think they needed to get him at a club.
02:27:39.000You know, obviously the material's great, great delivery and everything like that, but I think everything is enhanced more with an intimate environment.
02:27:46.000One of my favorite specials that I did, I did at the Comedy Works in Denver.
02:28:34.000He did one at a good-sized place in D.C., which I think was like a couple thousand people, and then he did another one at the Belly Room, which was like 70 people.
02:31:10.000And I realized, again, it's people that think I'm blowing smoke up your ass, but I don't like to watch.
02:31:15.000I like to watch UFC. I like to watch the fighting.
02:31:18.000But only if you're announcing it, because I like the backstories and all that shit that you give to it that no one else seems to be able to do.
02:31:37.000It's been a part of my life since I was a little kid, and so for me, it's very important when I'm watching this and explaining what's happening, like, physically.
02:31:46.000Like, to understand the Gracie brothers and what they did.
02:31:54.000That's what heightens everything, you know, when you're watching, and that's why I like to watch boxing, because those guys' stories are always these unbelievable, his mother abandoned him when he was 80, he walked Brazil for three years, and then he started boxing, like, holy fuck!
02:32:06.000You know, so that's like, that's the, and it's a do or die, and it's one-on-one, and that's why I love boxing.
02:32:13.000Well, it's what we were talking about earlier when we were talking about Jay Leno's new show, is that he's actually passionate about it.
02:32:18.000When someone's passionate about something, it comes through.
02:32:23.000And if they can articulate it, it comes through.
02:32:26.000And I think if you're not doing something you're passionate about, understand that from watching someone who is doing something like the Jay Leno show or anything along those lines.
02:32:34.000When you see someone, you go, oh, that's that feeling.
02:33:30.000The whole thing, as I said, it was such a heady experience for me, and my whole life was ahead of me.
02:33:35.000No matter who you are, if you kill, if you're a stand-up and you kill, I don't care if you kill at Zany's, it's 150 people, or if you kill at Madison Square Garden, it's still killing.
02:33:46.000It's 10. It's 10. You hit 10. You hit a joke and boom, and you hear the roar like, that's 10. And there's nothing, you know, my brother, I remember the first time I got a paid gig.
02:33:58.000It was in Wheaton, or Wheeling, Illinois.
02:34:01.000Anyway, it was $50, and I was telling him I had to drive 50 miles to go make $50 to do comedy, which to me was a victory, right?
02:34:08.000And he worked for the power company in Chicago, Commonwealth, and he goes, pfft!
02:34:11.000They'd have to pay me $50 just to drive there, right?
02:34:14.000And I'm like, yeah, but when you get there, you have to go to fucking work.
02:34:18.000When I get there, I'm the center of attention.
02:34:21.000There's a party happening, and I'm the guest of honor, and I'm going to get a blowjob afterwards, which I did that night in the church parking lot.
02:36:51.000You know, one time I remember, I have a big mouth and everything, and so when I started comedy, there was this girl, and she was pretty, and I guess I must have told people I'd like to get on, I can't wait to work the road with her so I can fuck her, right?
02:38:37.000That's the only experience I have like that.
02:38:39.000Yeah, it's going to be a weird time if we remove flirting and clumsy attempts at sex.
02:38:47.000There's a lot of that stuff that turns out to be fun.
02:38:50.000It's funny, too, that one thing that you could say to one person is highly offensive, and you could say it to another person is exactly what they wanted to hear.
02:39:00.000It's like, and you really don't know until you say it.
02:40:22.000And so that causes a lot of problems, you know?
02:40:24.000Like, I'll see a guy with his group of friends, and he'll slink over to try to talk to this girl, and he's nervous, and he says, hey, you want to dance?
02:40:31.000And she'll shut him down, and he'll walk back over, and like, oh, that fucking bitch, you know?
02:40:44.000I mean, one of the things that you see from the same people, whether it's men or women, is people that are constantly shut down and ridiculed and mocked by the opposite sex become very bitter and angry.
02:40:57.000You see it sometimes from unattractive women who have been shit on by men, and you see it from unattractive men who have been shit on by women.
02:41:03.000They develop this animosity towards the opposite sex, and it's very unfortunate.
02:41:06.000And a lot of it comes from that feeling that you just get from someone.
02:41:10.000When you make it advance, you become vulnerable.
02:41:13.000And look, if you're a guy, not a good-looking guy, and you take a chance at some girl, she's with her friends at a bar, she might mock you openly in front of her friends, and it's ruthlessly painful.
02:42:17.000Well, a lot of it is based on their own life experiences.
02:42:20.000Meanwhile, you go to some really attractive girl who's like, go to, you know, fill in the blank, some really attractive girl who's always had men hit on her.
02:42:28.000She might be, oh, men are gross, men are disgusting, I'm just waiting for the right guy.
02:42:33.000Lumping all men into this group, but many women that are unattractive and have a hard time with men have the same response towards men that many unattractive men have towards women.
02:43:43.000You know, I had a friend, and he was an unattractive guy, and I watched him go from being, sort of having these idealistic ideas about the one day, he had a girlfriend at the time, and it turned out his girlfriend was cheating on him, and then, you know, he had other girls, and they were trying to get his money,
02:43:58.000and then he just became this bitter fucking guy.
02:44:02.000Like, over the time that I knew him, he just became a woman hater.
02:45:56.000But my wife says about that show, because it was an honor when she's watching, she's like, you know, these women all got laid and it was all about them wanting to get laid and they had resiliency and they weren't snowflakes and they were...
02:46:53.000Yeah, like, the whole thing is just like, oh, so this whole thing about this camaraderie and this union of women all together and fighting against odds.
02:49:00.000And I think they came along at an amazing time, the time of social media, where it's just all about likes and butt pictures that have been doctored up by Photoshop.
02:49:09.000The whole thing is really fascinating.
02:49:11.000And then, you know, the father is like, well, I'm not getting enough attention as a guy.