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00:00:20.000If you look like you're really serious, then people assume you're serious, and they don't know that I'm, you know, making dick jokes and all shit like that.
00:01:06.000There's this thing that I do where, especially when I'm doing my show, oftentimes you do that half-assed move where I look like this, but then I might have basketball shorts on, or I might have sweatpants.
00:01:47.000If you look at a picture of somebody from 1906, and you look at a picture of somebody from 2018, and they're wearing a suit, you go, oh, okay.
00:01:54.000But then other aspects of style and fashion change so fast.
00:05:08.000Well, whenever somebody tries to, you know, kind of like deify the Founding Fathers, I always think, well, yeah, they were brilliant on some things, but on the other hand, they wore powdered wigs and shat outhouses and had slaves.
00:06:47.000Anyway, so they're in the middle of this conversation and Heather, who is a, she's a biologist, and she starts going over the biology of the differences between males and females that are just undeniable.
00:07:00.000And these kids get up and they start yelling that this is bullshit and fuck you and power to the people, all this crazy shit, and then they tip over the sound system and They're the most hilarious, classical, liberal,
00:07:28.000That stuff is the kind of stuff that I think turns people off to the left and almost provides a gateway to the right where all of a sudden people can buy into an even broader right-wing ideology because if you look at the left and that's your perception of the left is it's the people with the pink hair or the blue hair and they're just going around and their whole point is to de-platform people or censor people or scream about Ben Shapiro or whatever the case is.
00:07:54.000My whole thing is, if you're on the left, and I think most lefties do this to be fair, put the identity politics aside, okay, and let's talk about the things that we actually already have a majority of the American people with us on.
00:08:07.000So, you know, like a classic left-wing idea.
00:08:10.000The minimum wage is not a living wage right now.
00:08:12.000You could work full-time and not make enough money to survive.
00:08:14.000Well, if you're on the left and you go out there and you talk about, we need to fight to try to get a living wage and make our government work for us, well then you get everybody to agree with you.
00:08:23.000And you can go down the list, whether it's legalizing marijuana, 60% of the American people are now with us.
00:08:28.000Ending the wars, there was a poll that came out in 2013, so it's old, admittedly, but only 17% of the American people still wanted to be in the war in Afghanistan.
00:08:50.000Yeah, you're just asking their opinion on it, sure.
00:08:51.000What I was saying is about the left versus the right is that the real problem is anybody can be on either.
00:08:57.000So you're going to get these people that are going to disrupt this Heather Hying, you know, lecture on biology from an informed scientific perspective and like, fuck this man, this is a patriarchy.
00:09:10.000But you're also going to get people like yourself.
00:09:12.000You're also going to get people that are aware of the issues and educated and are debating this in a very public way and trying to figure out what's the best possible solution to these things.
00:09:23.000The problem is, anytime you have a group, whether it's Pick the group.
00:09:32.000And as soon as anybody can join, you can't look at, like, the worst case scenarios, the green-haired dork that kicks over the microphone because they don't like the idea that Heather is speaking logically about biology.
00:09:46.000Like, you know, you have to look at, like, the whole thing.
00:09:56.000And, you know, the breakdown to me is, when you look at somebody like that, they're in the category of what I would call authoritarian left, because they want to control other people's actions, they want to shut down that speech and say, your ideas are so dangerous, I don't even want to hear it.
00:10:09.000There's a whole other contingent of the left, which again, I would argue is probably the majority of the left, which is the libertarian left.
00:10:16.000Which is people like me and many others who say, listen, live and let live on social issues.
00:10:20.000Even though I don't agree with Steven Crowder or Ben Shapiro on anything, I'm never going to try to protest to get them to not speak their mind at a school.
00:12:03.000It was like a quick, partisan, hacky point you made.
00:12:06.000But since people already agree with you in the audience, they clap.
00:12:09.000So it's harder to flesh out the ideas.
00:12:11.000That's why, listen, I've always said, I'm not the biggest fan of debate.
00:12:16.000So I've done a few debates, and people online like when I do debates, but I'm not the biggest fan of debates because I think it's like the WWE of intellectual pursuits.
00:12:25.000Where you go in, this person's whole point is to defend this side of it, my job is to defend the other side of it, and it's like, okay, clash.
00:12:34.000But it's like, okay, well then, when we come across an issue like the fucking 64 genders on Facebook or whatever it is, and I actually might agree, Am I now put in a position where I'm supposed to be like, no, I'm going to disagree because that's the format of the thing that we're doing.
00:12:49.000Yeah, and I think that's actually very important for both sides to do.
00:12:53.000Like, when there's something on your side that you disagree with, you should be honest about it.
00:12:58.000Even saying that, that there's a side, that there's sides, that there's our side versus their side, I think we're so inherently tribal that we should resist any temptation whatsoever to form teams, especially about critical issues, like really important social issues, really important economic issues,
00:13:17.000These are just things we should just talk about without looking at them in terms of, oh, the left wants this, so I oppose it, or the right wants this, so I have to figure out ways to mock it.
00:13:30.000Yeah, I don't even know what to say in response to that.
00:13:33.000We were talking about this before the podcast, that what I try to do is have conversations with everyone.
00:13:41.000I try to have conversations with nutty people, like Alex Jones.
00:13:44.000I try to have conversations with rational people, like Sam Harris.
00:13:48.000I try to have conversations with all kinds of people, but Without fail, every time I have a left-wing person on, I'm some cuck left-wing, you know, and every time I have a right-wing person on, I'm some alt-right Nazi apologist.
00:14:02.000It's like this weird inclination we have to try to label and categorize people, and I try to resist those labels as much as humanly possible.
00:14:13.000Well, I feel like what you're really good at is you can have on people who disagree completely on stuff, but you'll kind of find a nugget of agreement in the conversation with that person, and then you can expand on that, and you can end up having a very nice conversation.
00:14:28.000And you never really bring anybody on to try to, like, browbeat them and tell them that they're wrong on this issue or that issue.
00:14:44.000I think debate is good, but every time I've ever been in an argument with someone, like a real argument, I always come out of it feeling gross.
00:15:04.000And I think a lot of what arguments are, and I've failed at this in my life many times, but a lot of what arguments are is The way you've reacted to the thoughts and the expression that another person has, and if you just reacted a different way or approached it in a different manner or took it into consideration a little bit more before you responded,
00:15:24.000I think the conversation could have gone another way.
00:15:26.000And I think I'm learning how to do that more and more as I get better at podcasting, get better at conversations, learning how to just settle someone down and learning how to genuinely be a nice person.
00:15:55.000And then I remember watching that clip, and it was so frustrating when you guys were going back and forth, because you would say, I think you were talking about the 9-11 thing, and you're like, I'm 100% not saying it was a conspiracy.
00:16:06.000I'm saying it looked like the building came down in a controlled demolition.
00:17:29.000He was involved in some sort of a scam where he embedded cookies, he would go to his site, it made it look like when you were buying things online that you had gone through his site first, when in fact you hadn't, there was just a cookie that was embedded, something along those lines.
00:17:43.000Whatever it was, it was illegal and he wound up going to jail.
00:17:45.000So, and even his defense of that, it's like, I think there's something wrong there.
00:18:02.000And I do feel like there's very, very, very, very, very few upsides of Trump, in my opinion.
00:18:08.000But one of the upsides of Trump is that he did kind of break the mold in terms of what was viewed as...
00:18:14.000The right way to communicate as a politician.
00:18:17.000Because before him you had all these very measured people who had the proper posture and they spoke with their thumb pointed down because they don't want to be too strong with their finger pointing at you like that.
00:18:28.000And then he comes along and he's obviously shooting from the hip and he clearly has no filter and he's tripping over his words.
00:18:34.000Tremendous, believe me, he's unnecessarily punchy and short with his sentences.
00:18:38.000And I remember there was a report that came out that said he communicates, I think it was like a sixth or seventh grade level or something like that.
00:18:44.000And everybody in the media was mocking it.
00:19:06.000And it doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with the substance of what that person is saying, you know when somebody's an effective communicator.
00:19:11.000And when he was out there on the campaign trail, and he was, for example, campaigning in the Rust Belt, where Hillary Clinton did not go, and he was like, ah, NAFTA, NAFTA's terrible, they shipped out all your jobs, it was unbelievably terrible, believe me, let me just tell you.
00:19:25.000What I'm gonna do, I'm gonna keep your jobs here, it's gonna be unbelievable, believe me.
00:19:30.000I do a pretty good job, people tell me that.
00:19:32.000The voice is a little off, but the mannerisms are excellent.
00:19:36.000How about the fucking thing he did recently where he said that he would have gone into the school when the school shooting was going on and he would have run in there even if he didn't have a gun?
00:20:03.000Imagine if he was there, like if Trump just happened to be there giving a speech at the school when a school shooting started, and he didn't do anything.
00:20:32.000Well, in the book, in fact, the guy uses someone to shield him from a shooter.
00:20:40.000And that's what keeps that guy from ever becoming president, so it keeps him from pressing the button.
00:20:44.000Because the guy was going to become president, and he was going to launch a nuclear assault, a nuclear war, and this guy that was Christopher Walken's character.
00:20:59.000He realized by touching this guy's hand this guy was going to do this.
00:21:02.000And so there was like some scenario that took place where someone was trying to shoot him and he used someone else to shield him from the bullet and that's what prevented him from ever becoming president.
00:21:12.000It's a movie, The Dead Zone, or is it a show?
00:21:14.000Yeah, it's a movie and it was also a book by Stephen King.
00:21:43.000I don't know, but especially with comedy, and you've pointed this out, if you go back and look at old comedy, it's just a different world they were living in.
00:21:52.000If you take the conversation we're having and you somehow get it back to 1950, people would look at us like, Just the fact that we casually curse and, you know, the concepts we're talking about, they'd be like, this is unbelievably impolite.
00:22:39.000Didn't they do that with Elvis when he performed?
00:22:41.000He, like, moved his hips in a way that they thought was too sexual, so they're like, we can't show this because there are kids that exist in the world.
00:22:46.000Well, they would only frame him from the waist up.
00:22:49.000They wouldn't show all that fuck motion.
00:22:51.000There was too much fuck motion going on with Elvis.
00:23:15.000He kind of paved the way for people like us...
00:23:17.000Where you, especially because you're in comedy too, but even just for the internet where we have this, you know, this free open platform where we talk about whatever, I feel like we wouldn't even be able to get away with talking, you know, mentioning the sexual stuff or cursing if it wasn't for guys like that who paved the way because people were getting arrested for doing a stand-up set and cursing.
00:24:41.000That's a fucking joke that would work today if nobody figured that out today, and it didn't exist, and somebody just said that on stage today.
00:24:49.000There's a lot of those, though, that people don't realize it's been said before, because it just seems like...
00:24:56.000Even in what I do, political commentary, I'll make points and it'll be a point that eight people made before me while I think I'm some fucking genius over here.
00:25:04.000It's unavoidable, especially with obvious points.
00:25:06.000When I started out in Boston doing stand-up, we're obviously right next to New Hampshire, and New Hampshire's state motto on their license plate is, live free or die.
00:25:16.000And I said, yeah, those plates are made by prisoners.
00:25:36.000You know, they'd put the cuffs on them.
00:25:38.000You know, yeah, now you'll be making license plates.
00:25:40.000Like, for some reason, like, being in prison was associated with making license plates.
00:25:46.000And there's some, just because you brought up prisons, there's a pivot here, but There's some creepy stuff going on in terms of the labor that they're getting from prisoners.
00:26:05.000Hey, maybe give me a month off, or a year off, or whatever.
00:26:10.000Maybe if you're not a dangerous criminal, maybe you did something stupid, some petty theft or something like that, and look, I'll go out there and fire the fire, but you gotta give me some sort of a break off my sentence.
00:26:22.000Nope, we're gonna give you a dollar a day.
00:26:24.000So they make them do it and then they still have the normal sentence?
00:26:27.000They don't even reduce it or anything?
00:26:30.000I mean, I'm sure good behavior reduces sentences.
00:26:33.000I'm sure that probably does something.
00:26:35.000But the idea that they could pay you a dollar a day to fight a fire is fucking crazy.
00:26:39.000Or a dollar an hour or whatever the fuck the actual number was.
00:26:42.000The way we do prisons in general in the U.S. is really weird because...
00:26:46.000So I feel like there's like the Norwegian way of doing stuff and the Scandinavian way of doing stuff where they gear everything towards rehabilitation to get them back into society and functioning.
00:26:56.000And in the US, I feel like we don't gear it towards rehabilitation, we gear it towards punishment.
00:27:21.000He had, like, two rooms that were his cell and he could walk in a fucking courtyard and shit.
00:27:25.000So I think there are genuine criticisms of that.
00:27:27.000But at the same time, what's fascinating is...
00:27:30.000They have a significantly lower recidivism rate than we do.
00:27:34.000So here, if you go to prison, it's very likely that you're going to end up back in prison.
00:27:39.000In those places, if you go to prison, you know, especially if it's like a lower level crime, they rehabilitate you and you get out and you're a functioning member of society.
00:27:48.000In my mind, I think there should be...
00:27:50.000Some sort of a middle ground like I think prison should be used yes in some instances people need fucking punishment in some instances of course but we need to mix that in many instances with a healthy dose of rehabilitation as well so we are I don't know functioning like an actual society as opposed to jailing more people in this country than any other country in the world Yeah,
00:28:08.000I don't necessarily think that punishment by itself helps anybody.
00:28:12.000I mean, if you take a guy and you lock him in a cell, and he's in that little tiny cell until his body stops working and he dies, is that helping anybody?
00:29:26.000But my whole thing on the death penalty is I've always thought the idea of it in principle is something I get.
00:29:31.000Like you could point out all those people who did those horrific things and like there's no hope of them rehabilitating and they're total monsters.
00:29:40.000Philosophically, I have no problem getting rid of those people because you're just eliminating a problem.
00:29:43.000But in my mind, the reason why I'm not in favor of the death penalty is because 4% of the time we get the wrong people.
00:29:50.000So if you have a system where you're guaranteed to kill the wrong people some percentage of the time, then what we're saying is, well, we're gonna let the state murder people 4% of the time, and that's something I just can't have my tax dollars going towards.
00:30:02.000I agree with you 100%, but is it any better to have those people locked up in a cage for the rest of their life until their body stops working?
00:30:07.000Well, I guess the idea is if you have them locked up and you have people like the Innocence Project working on trying to overturn cases where there was a wrong conviction, then eventually you can right the wrong of getting those wrong people 4% of the time.
00:30:22.000But it's finite if you say, no, we're going to put you on...
00:30:25.000On death row and you're gonna die in eight years or whatever it is, then, you know, sometimes you can't finish the case in time, overturn it, and...
00:30:31.000So that's my whole thing about the death.
00:30:33.000Like, I agree philosophically, and that's something many people to my left have come after me for, and said, no, you're wrong, you should be against the death penalty in principle.
00:30:52.000I mean, I don't know if it's better to kill the wrong people or to keep the wrong people locked in a cage suffering for the rest of their life.
00:31:13.000Yeah, well, we were talking about something before the podcast, and I think this is really the future, whether it's in our lifetimes or our children's lifetimes.
00:31:24.000But I think that they're going to be able to read minds.
00:32:03.000That's just a giant problem, is the human memory is incredibly flawed.
00:32:08.000And when someone's life is on the line, and you're going to convict a guy who didn't do anything, he just looks kind of like what you remember this person who murdered that guy looks like.
00:32:19.000Well, that's where a lot of the things get overturned is because they have DNA evidence that overrides whatever the testimony was of the people at the time.
00:32:26.000And speaking of technology advancing, there's many scary aspects to it, but the elephant in the room to me is the fact that look at what the NSA is already doing.
00:32:34.000They're already spying on absolutely everybody in the country.
00:32:37.000They collect all of our metadata and store it at some multi-billion dollar facility in Utah.
00:32:41.000And then there's no doubt that all this technology is going to be used against us.
00:32:47.000Well, it certainly can be if they choose to.
00:32:49.000Like if you become a guy like Julian Assange or anyone who leaks something, and then they go, hey, let's go pull up Kyle's text message records.
00:33:00.000Oh, look, he likes cross-dressing and fucking...
00:33:51.000It's like, I mean, it doesn't make any sense that he thought that he could get away with that, but the real problem with that guy is that guy was an interesting politician.
00:34:00.000He really did have some really good points, a lot like Wiener.
00:34:05.000Wiener is kind of interesting in that way, too.
00:36:12.000But like, so I like to, when I talk, I like to have just bullet points of what I want to talk about and just a loose outline and then I'll riff off of it.
00:36:20.000And what happened was, all the lines that I thought would get a laugh did not get a laugh, but all my throwaway lines got good laughs.
00:36:30.000So I was amazed by that, and then also I was amazed at the fucking rush of getting a room to hang on your every word and to genuinely laugh at what you're saying.
00:37:12.000You're doing a show then, more than you're connecting with people, whereas you're going to come to the Comedy Store tonight, that's an intimate place.
00:37:35.000Your responsibility to the material and the delivery sort of overrides the rush, because you can't really get caught up and go, wow, this is amazing, because you have to be thinking about the timing, you have to be tuned in to exactly what you're thinking about.
00:37:52.000You can't be thinking about, oh, this is getting a lot of great laughs.
00:37:55.000You have to honestly be thinking about the actual subjects.
00:37:58.000Because people fucking know what you're thinking about, man.
00:38:02.000Well, I think it's a type of hypnosis.
00:38:05.000And I don't mean hypnosis like you trick the people into doing something, but I mean that you mind meld with the audience in some sort of a weird way.
00:38:37.000You two are really connecting, and then you're also really connecting with the people who are watching, because you're just having a conversation, it's like you're at a bar, and everybody's just kind of talking, and it's not like people come here and they're like, let me now go to my point that I was going to make on this and this, because that's when people start to yawn, and that's actually why I think a lot of the...
00:38:54.000The older shows, like, you know, not to shit on the late night hosts.
00:38:58.000But that's why I feel like that's kind of dying out, and there's this giant rise of the internet.
00:39:02.000Because that's all very segmented and structured, and you have to go in and out real fast.
00:40:05.000Because, I don't know, I feel like there's an energy that you get from the audience where you kind of try more to do those punchy one-liners as opposed to just flowing.
00:40:57.000We had a table set up, and then we all sat facing the audience and just talked, you know, like a regular podcast, but in front of a live crowd.
00:41:07.000And then someone would come out, like Brian Hennigan would come out and give us the updates.
00:41:10.000Trump is ahead by, you know, 18 points.
00:41:21.000I felt like everybody was so convinced that Hillary was going to win.
00:41:25.000I just felt like that was probably what was going to happen.
00:41:29.000So I feel like one of the reasons why my show got popular over time is because...
00:41:33.000I'm sucking my own dick and this sounds so gross, but...
00:41:35.000But I actually predicted pretty early on when it was clear Hillary was going to get the nomination.
00:41:42.000I was sounding the alarms and I was saying, listen, Hillary versus Trump is a worst case scenario because Hillary Clinton is the status quo.
00:41:57.000All she's doing is spewing platitudes and cliches, break down the barriers, stronger together...
00:42:02.000Doing identity politics non-stop, which is nothing but pandering and not talking about policy substance.
00:42:08.000And then, like we touched on earlier, you had Donald Trump, who...
00:42:11.000I disagree with him on virtually everything, but the guy knows how to fucking play to a crowd, knows how to tell people what they want to hear.
00:42:19.000So when he's in front of a blue-collar audience, he's out there ripping the trade deals and saying, I'm going to keep your jobs in the country and it's going to be amazing.
00:42:28.000And then when you have Hillary so dumb as to not...
00:42:30.000A campaign in, what, Michigan and some Ohio, I think she went to, but some of the Rust Belt states.
00:42:36.000Well, the reason he ended up winning is because of the Rust Belt.
00:42:39.000So, and my whole point was, Trump is a populist, and admittedly, when push came to shove now that he's elected, a fake populist, because he has Goldman Sachs throughout his administration and he's serving Wall Street, but a fake populist We'll always beat a status quo politician.
00:42:57.000Because people are sick and tired of business as usual, and they feel like, well, I'm getting shafted now, and she's coming along telling me I'm going to keep everything the same.
00:43:05.000Why the fuck would I be happy and excited to vote for her?
00:43:08.000It was like there were so many things that were in place that were against her.
00:43:13.000First of all, she has absolutely poor health.
00:43:17.000And it was admitted by her husband that she had fallen down and cracked her head open and had a pretty severe brain injury.
00:43:24.000It took more than six months for her to recover, according to Bill.
00:43:44.000The other thing is, she's a disingenuous person.
00:43:47.000When the whole Comey thing with the FBI, when there was a video that came out where he explained what the charges were and what they had found about the emails, and then she explained the version of it.
00:44:14.000There's a lot of people that didn't want a woman to be president, period.
00:44:17.000Especially not a woman that could point to all these flaws.
00:44:19.000Poor health, liar, dishonest, in bed with Wall Street, gets paid by The banks, hundreds of thousand dollars, won't release the transcripts, Clinton Foundation seems kind of shady.
00:44:30.000There's so many different things that were against her.
00:44:32.000Well, she put the fact that she's a woman front and center.
00:44:53.000Nobody knows less about politics than Democratic strategists in Washington, D.C. Because as of right now, what they're trying to do is they're trying to fight back against their base.
00:45:06.000So their base, it's people like me, and what we want...
00:45:39.000Bernie Sanders came along, spoke about those issues.
00:45:41.000He went from being this obscure senator from fucking Vermont, which has a population of 12 people, to getting 47% of the vote in a race against a political juggernaut, a behemoth that had the entire Democratic Party machine behind her.
00:45:55.000Not only that, they were rigging the primaries.
00:45:58.000A hundred percent, yes, and that's what we learned, and that's why Julian Assange went from being viewed as, oh my god, this guy's great, that's how the left used to view him, and now many people, democratic partisans, are like, ah, fuck this guy!
00:46:20.000Now when Donald Trump goes out there and he's a fake news CNN, everybody's gonna go, yeah, you know what?
00:46:24.000All they do is fucking talk about Russia all day long, so maybe the guy has a point.
00:46:28.000So the institutions that we have and the establishment as it is, it opens up the door for a demagogue and a liar and a fake populist like Trump to come in there and exploit it!
00:46:39.000So, if you give people a choice between a broken system that's fucking them over, where half of workers in America make $30,000 a year or less, you give people an option between keep everything as is, or take a fucking human bowling ball and throw it at the establishment, they're gonna say,
00:46:54.000okay, fuck it, we'll roll the dice on this Trump guy.
00:46:56.000And then meanwhile, look at his agenda and everything that he's done since he's got elected.
00:46:59.000It's the opposite of his populist rhetoric on the campaign trail.
00:47:02.000His fucking tax bill had a 33% favorability rating, and they were bragging about it when they passed it.
00:47:08.000This is a bill that cuts corporate taxes from 35% to 21% at a time when corporations are already paying a historically low percentage of the tax burden, and it raises taxes on everybody that makes $75,000 a year or less over a 10-year period.
00:47:22.000You couldn't get a piece of legislation that spits in the face of working people more than that, but the saddest thing is this guy is so comically easy to beat, but the Democrats can't get their shit together because they're fighting back against the grassroots who care about the issues because they're in bed with corporations.
00:47:40.000The Democrats are in bed with corporations just like the Republicans are.
00:47:42.000So if you got this corrupt party establishment and they're trying to tamper down the wing of the party that can actually win Well then guess what?
00:47:50.000You're gonna keep losing to these monsters, these comic book villains on the right.
00:47:53.000Don't you think that the parties themselves, there's a giant issue with the momentum behind them?
00:47:59.000The lobbyists, the special interest groups, the embedded just sort of ecosystem that they both carry with them.
00:48:06.000For someone new to step in and sort of represent The actual people like yourself that have this very clear view.
00:48:16.000They have so many people that they're beholden to by the time they get into a position where they can even run for president.
00:48:38.000If you don't take corporate PAC money, that means, okay, at least I know you're being honest and you're being open, and when you talk, I can believe you.
00:48:45.000The problem comes along is that successful politicians, someone who could actually possibly win, they do take corporate PAC money, but they're a better alternative than, say, you know, Pence.
00:48:57.000If Pence decides to be president, then you go, okay, we've got to choose the lesser of two evils.
00:49:01.000That's essentially what we did with Hillary.
00:49:05.000You get into that weird position where, yeah, she's kind of corrupt, but look, it's gonna be historic, she's a woman, she's infinitely more qualified than him, and...
00:49:12.000Yeah, the lesser evilism thing is a big issue because that's the game that's played on the American people, and I think Americans know that it's being played on them, you know?
00:49:22.000Like, if you look at the opinion polls on Congress, Congress oscillates between a 14% approval rating and a 21% approval rating in what's supposed to be a democracy.
00:49:32.000So in other words, you vote these people in, and then two weeks later you go ask people, hey, what do you think of the Congress you just voted in?
00:49:37.000And like 14% of them are like, I think they're good.
00:49:41.000So we all know that there's a problem here, and the root of the problem is the corruption of the system and the corporate money flooding our politics.
00:49:48.000And then the politicians get in there, and all they do is represent the corporations, and they don't represent the people.
00:49:52.000So to your point, yeah, in order to rise up through this system, That's why the establishment loved Hillary Clinton.
00:50:00.000Because she played by the rules in this corrupt system.
00:50:03.000Did you know that her and Bill, through their entire career, they raised over $3 billion in private donations?
00:50:12.000And that's how you get to the point where it was wall-to-wall...
00:50:14.000Obviously she's going to win, this is a no-brainer, and everybody loves her.
00:50:18.000No, everybody loves her on fucking Wall Street and in Washington, D.C. But, and again, just to go back to the Bernie Sanders point, now we're seeing more politicians coming up that are in his model, where they say, I'm not going to take any corporate PAC money.
00:50:31.000I don't even want a super PAC if I run for president.
00:50:34.000And then what happens is, people know at the end of the day, I can trust that person, even if I don't agree with that person.
00:50:40.000And that's why Bernie Sanders is the most popular politician in the country by a mile and a half.
00:50:43.000He's the most popular by a long shot, and the reason is, there are even many people on the right who look at him and go, you know what, I don't agree with him on abortion, I don't agree with him on this or that, but I trust the guy, and I think he's fighting for me.
00:51:33.000My friend Aaron Snyder had a podcast the other day with a gentleman who's 78 years old who goes on backpack solo elk hunts and he rides mountain bikes and exercises and does all this shit.
00:51:46.000There are people out there that are his age that take care of their body.
00:51:51.000The problem with Bernie, 76, his head sits somewhere in the middle of his sternum.
00:52:55.000I was retarded when I was 35. I'm retarded now and I'm 30. I was so fucking stupid when I was 35. How can you allow people to be 35 years old and run for president?
00:55:07.000No, but what I love about Roe is that he doesn't do the fake bullshit identity politics of like, I'm not white, therefore, you know, I'm great.
00:55:16.000In fact, he's one of the very few politicians who regularly speaks up about people in the middle of the country who got their fucking factory jobs outsourced because corporations wanted to make more money, and he's against all these trade deals and stuff.
00:55:28.000Look at that dork with the t-shirt on, fired up, ready for Roe.
00:55:31.000Dude, okay, I need you to just rethink your life.
00:55:35.000That looks like a young, fatter Mario Lopez to the right, too.
00:59:48.000I hate the pandering where they try to, that's the thing, like when they bring up the personal stories and they're like pretending to care about some random dude in Kentucky.
01:00:59.000With old people, that was like, someone said it best, and it's one of my favorite quotes about Trump, that he is what a poor person imagines a rich person would be like.
01:01:54.000Because people gave up on that a long time ago, and they'll make fun of me, but I'm like, fuck you, it's coming back in style, and I'm rocking it.
01:02:37.000Well, it's like that Jay-Z song, 99 Problems But A Bitch Ain't One.
01:02:40.000You know, if you grew up with holes in your zappa toes, you'd celebrate the minute you were having dough.
01:02:46.000I'm like, fuck critics, you can kiss my whole asshole.
01:02:48.000So when you don't grow up with much, then you're like, I'm gonna fucking get a lot, and then I'm gonna show off that I have a lot, so you know I got this shit.
01:04:37.000Well, working for yourself is a little difficult, though, right?
01:04:40.000Like, not having a steady paycheck where you have to...
01:04:43.000And you were also involved in the YouTube demonetization wave that hit after that PewDiePie cocksucker decided it was a good idea to use the N-word On video game streams.
01:04:54.000Well, just for the record, when I was an awkward young white boy who used it too.
01:04:58.000But with an A at the end, not an ER. There's a big difference.
01:05:12.000So in the rap songs, yeah, of course I did it in the rap songs, but also just being an awkward young white boy from New Rochelle and having a lot of black friends growing up, and we just threw it around like nobody's business.
01:08:14.000Like, to all of a sudden be acting with Phil Hartman and Andy Dick and Steven Root and Maura Tierney is like, I don't even, I shouldn't even be here.
01:08:23.000Well, how the fuck do you think I feel sitting across from Joe Rogan?
01:08:37.000I mean, there obviously are people who are, you know, like Jack Nicholson, for example, is way more famous than you, but like, there's not many people.
01:09:29.000But I had also worked with a bunch of actors who were actors.
01:09:33.000It's not a job that lends itself to authenticity.
01:09:38.000It's a job that lends itself to conformity, because you're always auditioning for things, so you want everybody to like you, so you sort of pattern your likes and dislikes, your behavior patterns, your opinions.
01:09:50.000You lick your finger, you put it in the air, where's the wind blowing?
01:09:53.000I'm going that way, because that's the safest way to make a living.
01:09:55.000And there's a lot of that in Hollywood.
01:09:57.000I was going to say, that gets back to my point about how insular they are.
01:10:00.000How everybody in Hollywood's like, yeah, Oprah, 2020's fucking great.
01:10:03.000Meanwhile, who the fuck is sitting in, you know, Kentucky, like, yeah, can't wait for Oprah to be pregnant.
01:11:00.000Having that ability to say no to things and to have fuck you money and to just not worry about how to pay your bills.
01:11:07.000I knew when I lived in New Rochelle, it was actually when I got my first development deal.
01:11:11.000And when I got my first development deal, there was this physical weight that lifted off of me where I didn't have to worry, how am I going to pay my rent next month?
01:11:36.000But having resources is a valuable thing and having the resources to not have to do something you don't want to do and where you can pursue what you want to do, that's valuable as well.
01:11:47.000So it's funny you bring that up because I covered this study that came out a few weeks ago on my show and apparently researchers found out that When you hit a certain level of happiness when you hit $75,000 a year.
01:12:00.000Because I think they figured out that that's where people can generally pay the bills and be okay.
01:12:06.000And then they said, if you make up to $95,000, you do see a noticeable increase in happiness when you jump from $75,000 to $95,000.
01:12:15.000So that's when people pretty much across the board are like, okay, I'm good.
01:12:23.000So they say, you know, the difference between making $95,000 a year and a million dollars a year, even though there's a big material difference there, in terms of how much it buys your happiness, there's a tapering effect when you hit that $95,000 threshold.
01:12:37.000I think also the amount of work that you have to do to make a million dollars a year significantly stresses you out.
01:12:43.000You don't have time to do things that you love, like say if you have some hobbies that you really enjoy, you feel like, I gotta leave those alone for a while, I gotta pursue my career and go after my career and really make it happen.
01:12:57.000Life, comfort, appreciation for just your existence here, and trying to make a living.
01:13:05.000And sometimes people get that way wrong, and they go all in on making a living, and then you become some fucking Harvey Weinstein guy, who's just all about just vices, and just filling your life up with things that try to make you happy, because you've got $500 million in the bank,
01:13:22.000and you're constantly working, and you just...
01:13:30.000The better example would be someone who works so they have a heart attack and then realizes they never had any fun and now their health has deteriorated so radically that they can't have fun and then they can't work and they can't even do what they do and then they have to sort of reboot their life.
01:13:45.000I mean, I just think it's very important to enjoy your time here.
01:16:06.000Especially rich guys with hot girls where it doesn't make any sense, and the guy's miserable, and you're like, hey, man, do you see what's happening?
01:16:53.000So, going back to the point you made about the rat race of life and people who get, like, obsessed with work and stuff like that, here's an interesting fact that I, nobody talks about it, I don't know why people don't think it's a bigger deal, but did you know that the United States is the only developed country that doesn't have paid time off by law?
01:17:09.000Every other modern country, so you go to Europe, for example, they have- That's why we win, bro.
01:17:15.000That's why we have people who are hopped up on pills and shit.
01:17:17.000Whenever you're talking to me about losers, all these loser countries, and you say, why aren't we like these losers?
01:17:27.000Yeah, those assholes with healthcare and fucking vacation.
01:17:29.000I definitely think people should get paid time off.
01:17:31.000And I definitely think, I mean, I've had some pretty intense arguments with wealthy people about a living wage.
01:17:37.000I'm like, you're out of your fucking mind if you think someone should be working for less than $15 for an hour of their time.
01:17:42.000So I'm telling you, a guy's gonna go in your backyard, he's gonna dig a fucking hole for an hour.
01:18:16.000In fact, whenever people bring that point up, they go, oh, we can't raise the minimum wage because of reasons and stuff and things, I always bring up Australia.
01:18:23.000I'd like to point out that I know jack shit about economics.
01:18:26.000Okay, I know a little bit more than jack shit.
01:18:29.000But if you look up the minimum wage in Australia, Jamie, I think it's like $17 and change.
01:18:34.000They pay you in boomerangs over there, bro.
01:19:49.000Do you think that's people just taking advantage of poor people?
01:19:53.000Do they really believe this is a stepping stone position that no one who's making minimum wage should ever consider this something they're going to do forever?
01:20:03.000So, I don't think that it's bad people.
01:20:06.000I don't think it's bad individuals who are trying to take advantage of people.
01:20:11.000And the only reason why we don't have a system like Australia does with their minimum wage is because corporations have bought the government.
01:20:19.000So if you look at the polls, 80% of people want to raise the minimum wage.
01:20:24.000And we don't get that because there's a tremendous amount of money being poured into our government from the likes of corporations that don't want to raise the minimum wage.
01:20:31.000So that's the only constituent group that has all the power, and they happen to be the only constituent group against having a living wage.
01:20:38.000So I think that's the general dynamic behind it.
01:20:41.000I do think that there are some small businesses where they're like, listen, I genuinely don't have the money to do this.
01:20:48.000So, for those cases, yes, we can have a separate conversation about those instances, but if you're a fucking giant corporation, don't bullshit us and tell us you can't afford to pay somebody a living wage.
01:20:59.000Because in the case of, like, Walmart, for example, they don't pay their people a living wage, and then they dump all of their workers onto the Medicaid rolls and onto the social safety net, so taxpayers end up paying billions of dollars to support them.
01:21:13.000Meanwhile, the people who are part of Walmart are running out the back door with all the fucking money.
01:21:50.000But if you're part of a big bank or you're part of a fucking hedge fund that made the decisions that ended up crashing the fucking economy, not only do you not get fired, they say, in order to retain the talent of these people, we're gonna have to pay them bonuses with the taxpayer money that just bailed out the corporation that they bankrupted!
01:22:26.000It's not a debatable point to give those fucking people millions of dollars of the taxpayers' money that's gone to the bailouts so that they can get that bonus that's in their contract.
01:22:48.000They never come out and say, okay, what we're going to do is a bailout of the people who are hurt by this.
01:22:54.000They always go, well, what we have to do is we have to give it to the companies that just made the decisions that fucked everything up in the first place and sit down and shut up.
01:23:00.000Yeah, and those guys are already rich.
01:23:02.000You're giving rich people tons of money after they fucked up and did a shitty job.
01:23:07.000And this goes back to why Trump seemed appealing to so many people, is because you have, you know, somebody who seems like a measured guy and a smart guy, and he said he was going to change the game, but then he also fucking bails out Wall Street.
01:23:19.000And people look at that and they go, okay, you know what?
01:23:40.000This whole person who talks like this, who gives these speeches in front of large groups of people, I'm going to promise you change, and hope, and dignity, and whatever else.
01:25:26.000Well, apparently, there is a reporter that literally named the pharmacy, the Dwayne Reed pharmacy where Trump had his prescription filled, where he used to be on one form of amphetamine.
01:26:29.000So now he's back to normal, but he's like, I eat anything and I gain weight now, the whole system's all screwed up.
01:26:36.000What is it about some people who can't have a little bit of something and experience the upsides of it without getting totally hooked by it?
01:26:44.000Because that's something, I feel like that's something that I can do, like I could try something and then I can experience the upsides of it and not, you know what I mean?
01:26:54.000So, for example, I brought you—you said you already have a bunch of—but Kratom, I wanted you to try Kratom.
01:27:00.000Kratom's something that I have, and I always feel like it's almost like caffeine to me.
01:27:07.000I feel like it allows me to control my consciousness better.
01:27:11.000So if I want to make a decision to do something, I feel like if I have Kratom in me, I can focus on it more, I can be more creative, and it's just upsides of it.
01:27:43.000So do I have demons in my past that when I smoke it, I'm looking at that and I want to run away?
01:27:50.000I don't want to psychoanalyze, but I feel like, from my own personal view, if I feel bad about something, if I smoke pot and then all of a sudden I remember something I did two years ago, I'm like, why did I do that?
01:28:02.000I think that's an opportunity for psychic growth.
01:28:05.000It gives me an opportunity to examine my own thoughts and try to figure out what...
01:28:11.000Who you are at any given time is a bunch of different factors, right?
01:28:15.000It's what's going on in your career, what's going on in your personal life, where's your health at, how stressed out, how many of these factors are outside of your control, what's the state of your success in life and all these various things, and then all those things together.
01:28:31.000That's who you are at any given time, and it fluctuates, it moves, it goes back and forth.
01:28:35.000And if you catch yourself at a good time and you smoke pot, you feel great.
01:28:38.000And if you catch yourself at a point where maybe you're examining these things, like, sometimes you'll think about these various factors and you get very uncomfortable.
01:28:45.000And when you were in a state just an hour ago where you were super comfortable about your life, now all of a sudden you don't feel good.
01:28:53.000Well, it's probably there's some sort of subconscious thoughts and ideas that you've ignored.
01:28:58.000And I think Ignoring those things is probably unhealthy and even though that feeling of Paranoia or whatever you want to call it.
01:29:08.000I call it ruthless introspective thinking.
01:29:11.000That feeling is probably healthy because it's making you examine things that you're probably pushing to the dark regions of your consciousness.
01:29:23.000They make you uncomfortable, so you push them aside.
01:29:26.000And I think they're better off explored and dealt with.
01:29:30.000So I feel, I've always felt like substances that either up my mood and make me feel like I want to be very proactive and creative and busy and talkative, fine with taking something like that.
01:30:07.000But anyway, so I've always had an issue with psychoactive substances where, so I've never tried, and all the drugs you talk about on a regular basis, like psilocybin and stuff like that, I've always been scared of them, and I always feel like The drugs that will make me see things that aren't there,
01:30:27.000hallucinogenics, I'm just scared of them because I feel like I'll take that trip and not come back.
01:30:36.000This is why I'm bringing it up to you because I know you disagree with that and I'm curious what you think about why I'm scared of those because with my experience with weed, most of the times I smoked it, It really was like a paranoid type...
01:30:47.000You probably, first of all, you probably smoked too much.
01:30:56.000Just a little hit, and just experience the good parts, which is like a good, weird, kind of funny feeling.
01:31:02.000And then there's also, I feel like it's a turbocharger for your imagination.
01:31:06.000Yes, 100% that happened, but I feel like I already have a hyperactive mind, and the path my mind will go down when I smoke weed, you know, suddenly I'm thinking about, I don't know, fucking naked Vikings,
01:31:22.000and it's like, well, how the fuck am I thinking about all this shit?
01:32:23.000So anyway, but there was a few times where I smoked weed and I had a positive experience, but it was like, all it was was just giggling non-stop with my friends to the point where we'd laugh, laugh, laugh, and then I remember one of us literally asking, hey, why the fuck are we laughing?
01:32:37.000And somebody said, I don't know, and then we kept laughing.
01:32:40.000Well, that's, listen, it's a good thing to laugh.
01:32:43.000I don't think it's a bad thing, but one of the reasons why you don't remember what you were laughing, and there's a real issue with short-term memory in marijuana.
01:32:49.000You know, it's one of the reasons why I prefer marijuana with nootropics.
01:32:56.000I think they balance each other out, because the nootropics accentuate your memory, and then on top of that, the marijuana sort of fucks with your memory a little bit.
01:34:17.000The idea is that marijuana somehow or another gets you to that deeper level quicker.
01:34:21.000There's a lot of people that I know that smoke pot before they go to bed, and it's very helpful for them.
01:34:28.000One of the interesting things about Kratom, and why I think it's kind of similar to weed and how people use it, even though the feeling is different when they take it, Many people take it because they were addicted to opioids, and it helps them get off the pills, and on Kratom, if you have too much of it,
01:34:44.000If you have too many opioids, you can die from an overdose.
01:34:47.000And this is one of the reasons why the FDA is cracking down on it, because they're fucking bought by Big Pharma, and they don't want anything that's gonna compete with their fucking profits.
01:35:00.000So people take it for, because they had an addiction to pills, people take it for PTSD, they take it for depression, they take it for anxiety, they take it for recreational reasons, they take it to wake up in a smaller dose, they take it to sleep in a bigger dose.
01:35:20.000If you take a lower dose of opioids, it's more of an upper.
01:35:22.000If you take a bigger dose of opioids, it's more of a downer.
01:35:25.000What's the rationalization for categorizing it as an opioid?
01:35:27.000Because it affects the same receptors in the brain.
01:35:30.000But it doesn't have the same response.
01:35:32.000Well, that's why it's a very misleading thing that the FDA did.
01:35:36.000Because what they're trying to do is find a backdoor way to be like, sorry, you guys can't have it because it's an opioid and it's dangerous and it's this and it's that.
01:35:42.000But they're glossing over the most important point, which is the one that we were talking about, which is if you take too much Kratom, you just throw up.
01:35:50.000That's why people overdose all the fucking time.
01:35:52.000And actually the bigger problem is that when people get addicted to opioids, and then because of the crackdown now, they're not prescribing as many opioids, then those same people go to the black market and they get fucking heroin.
01:36:04.000And then when they get heroin on the black market, oftentimes it's laced with fentanyl, which is a fucking elephant tranquilizer, which then kills them.
01:36:11.000They killed Tom Petty and Prince this year.
01:37:24.000And does he still do jujitsu and roll and stuff?
01:37:26.000He doesn't right now because he blew his ACL out and he has to have ACL reconstructive surgery.
01:37:31.000I mean, look, jujitsu is rough on the body.
01:37:34.000I've had two knee reconstructions, one from Taekwondo, one from Jiu Jitsu, but then I had a third operation from Jiu Jitsu as well, so two knee surgeries from Jiu Jitsu, and I've had some significant back problems too.
01:37:49.000Everybody gets them, just there's no way around it if you're training hard.
01:38:00.000I haven't gone to Panama yet to do that.
01:38:02.000I've only done them in America, which apparently you can't get the same sort of potency.
01:38:07.000But there's some new research that shows that there's some other stuff they're working on now that is, this sounds gross, but umbilical blood.
01:38:18.000They're using blood from umbilicals of people that are just giving birth, and they're having radical healing response with this stuff.
01:38:29.000Well, there was a study that came out a few years ago that said when you took the blood of young mice and put them into old mice, yeah, different thing, but same concept.
01:38:37.000Yeah, that's something that erroneously was attributed to Peter Thiel, that Peter Thiel was doing that, apparently he said he wasn't, but there's a startup in Silicon Valley that does that, that offers, and guys are going there, and so like a guy would go there and some 25-year-old kid who does CrossFit every day would give up a couple of pints of blood and they'd shoot it into your system and then you'd go out there and fuck the shit out of your It can't be that simple,
01:40:19.000The evidence is very solid that there's some regenerative properties of stem cells.
01:40:23.000The problem is we don't have enough evidence of what the potential downsides could be and whether or not there's a very specific protocol that ensures safety.
01:40:35.000Now, Dr. Neil Reardon is on top of all that stuff, and his books We used to have him sitting around here, but I think we put him in our little library.
01:40:42.000His books detail all of the various studies that have shown efficacy and all the different benefits that they have.
01:40:49.000And for a lot of people, like Mel Gibson's dad, who was 92 when he went in there, now he's almost 100. And Mel Gibson's dad was fucked.
01:40:58.000He was all jacked up, and it straightened him right out.
01:41:01.000So, not to get all conspiratorial, but it may be...
01:41:05.000Maybe, I have no idea, but maybe the reason why it's not already here is because there's some pre-existing treatment for stuff like that that they don't want to scrap.
01:41:19.000I think more likely they're skeptical.
01:41:21.000And then the FDA also wanted to categorize some stem cell preparations as a drug because you have to do something to the stem cells and then in the process of We're cultivating them.
01:41:33.000There's some sort of a method that they do that they believe categorizes it as a drug.
01:41:41.000I'm obviously a moron, so I'm not the right person to talk to about this.
01:42:35.000I feel like in many instances, not in every instance, but in many instances, you have the pre-existing treatments that are already in place, and pharmaceutical companies make a lot of money from having those treatments already in place.
01:42:46.000So if you try to upend the apple cart, overturn the apple cart, I mean, this gets back to the whole Kratom point.
01:44:50.000This is, I think, intentional corruption.
01:44:52.000And what's crazy is now the pendulum is swinging almost too far in the other direction.
01:44:57.000Ohio Attorney General suing opioid distributors.
01:45:01.000Now this is a good example of what I think is the pendulum swinging too far in the other direction because I have pain patients who contact me all the time and they talk about how since there's new federal regulations over the pills, what's happening is many doctors are afraid to prescribe them at all,
01:45:17.000even when it's a legitimate pain issue.
01:45:19.000And so people contact me and they go, I don't know what to do because I need my pills because I have severe pain problem and I've had it for an extended period of time and nobody wants to give me the pills anymore.
01:45:28.000And they feel like they're forced to go on the black market now.
01:45:52.000Fuck off, we're gonna take your beneficial plants.
01:45:54.000So, but it's still- thankfully it's still- it- there's still leeway.
01:45:58.000The last time the FDA really tried to crack down on it and make it a schedule one drug, the fucking bowels of hell opened up on their face because they opened up a comments section- a comments period.
01:46:08.000And like 99.9% of the comments were like, fuck you, this saved my life, you guys are fucking criminals, how dare you do this?
01:46:14.000And then they had to back off because the comments were just so overwhelming.
01:46:18.000So now they're trying to slowly do it again, and what's happening is they just referenced, oh, there were 44 cases of somebody who overdosed from Kratom.
01:46:32.000Exactly, so there were a few cases of salmonella-tainted kratom, and so the idea, there's another way they try to go, oh, we gotta get rid of it, because there's some salmonella cases.
01:46:40.000At this time, the CDC recommends that people not consume kratom in any form, because it could be contaminated with salmonella.
01:46:46.000We instead suggest fentanyl, which kills rhinos.
01:46:51.000We could kill a fucking whale with an Altoid-sized piece of fentanyl.
01:47:13.000Well, the story gets crazier because there were 44 cases that they cited and said, look man, 44 cases of people dying when they took Kratom.
01:49:15.000If you look at it objectively, you would have to say, listen, this substance, which is legal and has been legal for a very long time, is actually more dangerous than many of these ones that are illegal.
01:49:27.000And we learn from alcohol prohibition how terrible an idea it is to just ban the substance.
01:49:33.000Because what happened during Prohibition?
01:49:34.000The Mafia got incredibly powerful because they're the ones selling the alcohol, they're the ones making the money, and then when you have a dispute and your product is on the black market, you know how you solve that dispute?
01:50:28.000So this is another issue where if the Democrats decided, let's not be fucking corrupt idiots and let's actually fight for something, do you have any idea how big of a blue tsunami there would be in the next election if every Democrat came out there and said, one of the things we're for is legalizing marijuana.
01:50:43.000We're going to fight for that and we're not going to take no for an answer.
01:50:45.000And we're going to make a lot of money that can go to the schools, that can go to the infrastructure.
01:51:25.000There's no reason for them to be here.
01:51:28.000See, this is one of the things that's so frustrating to me, doing what I do, and one of the reasons why I think shows like ours have blown up is because we're willing to say the most obvious things that everybody's thinking, but the system is dragging like fucking 50 years behind what we're talking about.
01:51:44.000Well, you could never do the show that you do, or this kind of show, if you had like real serious advertisers and a real serious network.
01:51:52.000And producers and executives, if you had a bunch of executives that were above you and, you know, fill in the blanks, CNBC or whatever, and their job depended upon you not saying something fucked up that was going to get the advertisers to crack down on their program, you wouldn't be able to do it.
01:52:47.000You're ignoring the fact that only 14% of the American people even support Congress.
01:52:52.000You're ignoring the fact that 60% of people want to legalize marijuana.
01:52:55.000If you go and talk about real issues, that's when they step up and they go, listen, we can't have you because, you know, hey, you curse too much or this isn't palatable and it's always people above you.
01:53:06.000Who feel like they should be able to control your content, but they don't understand the reason why the content is popular in the first place is because you're not fucking being controlled.
01:53:15.000They're operating in this archaic format, too.
01:53:19.000The other problem is they interrupt their show every 15 minutes for commercials, and it's just...
01:53:23.000They break the flow of it, and then they've got fucking commercials for antidepressants and diarrhea pills and whatever the fuck else they're selling.
01:54:29.000When you keep something small and close to the chest, I feel like that's when you can mold it and make it your own.
01:54:34.000When it becomes a giant big operation and 43 hands are in it, well then all of a sudden it feels like it's stale and detached and not connected to anything real that people can relate to.
01:54:44.000No, I've been involved in that kind of stuff before.
01:54:47.000There's too many cooks in the kitchen, everything gets fucked up, and everybody's also trying to justify their position, which is almost unnecessary.
01:55:05.000Well, a lot of it is like they've kind of created these jobs to justify their position.
01:55:09.000And then when there's meetings, those people all have an idea that they want to change.
01:55:15.000Change this or tweak that and so they can say that was my idea and that justifies the role well It was my idea to tell Kyle that he's got to stop doing this and start doing that and we got Kyle to wear a suit and he Pushed back, but I was right.
01:55:27.000I was right You know like there's all that kind of shit that happens on these goddamn TV sets and it ruins the the individual idea like a person's There's no way you're going to get a real,
01:55:44.000unique, individual point of view if you have so many people tweaking and adjusting and restricting and demanding that a person behave a certain way or dress a certain way or stay to a certain topic.
01:55:57.000You have to keep within these very clearly defined parameters.
01:56:08.000Yeah, that was a disaster for a bunch of reasons.
01:56:09.000But one of the reasons why that was a disaster was because Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake decided to pull Janet's booby out on TV. Oh, and so they cracked down and started being very PC. Oh, and everything.
01:56:22.000Also, you have a bunch of people, again, that aren't comedians, they don't know what's funny, and they're trying to impose their idea of what's funny and what's not.
01:56:31.000You have a lot of that on television now.
01:56:33.000You have a lot of these people that aren't necessarily comedians, but they might be like super progressive, social justice warrior types, and now they're trying to push that kind of comedy as being what everybody likes.
01:57:00.000He's a perfect example, too, because for the longest time, I was trying to tell people, for the longest time, like I had agents, former agents of mine, that would tell me, you've got to stop working with that guy.
01:57:11.000Literally the dumbest shit I've ever heard in my life.
01:57:26.000I think he's the funniest in terms of like...
01:57:28.000He might not be the very best joke writer of all time, but in terms of being the funniest, I think he's the funniest person that's ever lived.
01:57:53.000His voice, his cartoon, the way he looks, the shit he says, the way he moves.
01:58:00.000And forever, they were telling me that that guy's not funny, this is not good, this guy can't work, and he wasn't getting work other than character work in movies.
01:58:08.000But then the internet came along, and then people got to know him on podcasts.
01:58:15.000And you knew that everybody who was telling you that was working backwards from their conclusion.
01:58:19.000That they had this idea in their mind of what somebody who's popular is supposed to be, and he didn't fit that mold because he's too rough around the edges and he curses too much and he talks about eating ass and all that shit.
01:58:30.000And then you knew, no, I know innately, I look at this guy and he touches something in me, so I know this is going to connect with other people.
01:58:38.000I'm out there in the clubs, and I'm watching Joey go on stage and crush.
01:58:43.000So them telling me he's not funny, I'm like, you're out of your mind.
01:59:22.000You know, seven, eight years ago, people got to know him, and then now when we have him on, it's like always one of our highest rated shows.
02:00:02.000And I'm gonna direct it and produce it and the whole thing and just...
02:00:05.000Have someone edit it and just put it together and just make the ultimate Joey Diaz comedy special so people could know and I'm we're gonna do a shitload of shows too because that's the other thing like When a comic has to do one show, ready?
02:00:18.000Here, Kyle, this is your one moment to be funny.
02:00:45.000Well, the evolution of stuff is interesting, because it's almost impossible to start something and just get it.
02:00:51.000Like, it requires a lot of time, a lot of effort, a lot of cultivation, a lot of attention, and, you know, it's that book, I forget who wrote it, but the idea of you have to do something for 10,000 hours or whatever the fuck it is.
02:01:09.000What I say is even if, let's say you don't get there with whatever you're trying to do, you're definitely going to be better after those 10,000 hours.
02:01:16.000And also, you might learn a lot about yourself and a lot about what you're capable of and a lot about dedication and discipline if you just stick with something.
02:01:24.000And I've always said, you know, people like to shit on one-dimensional people and act like, you know, you're not supposed to do that.
02:01:32.000You're supposed to be well-rounded and this and that.
02:01:33.000But, you know, again, to bring up Tiger Woods, how the fuck do you think he got good at golf?
02:01:40.000And he was able to find something that he got so fucking good at and create meaning in his life and also use that to develop different parts of your personality.
02:03:30.000The pussy one I'll deal with, the sushi I'm not dealing with.
02:03:36.000Anyway, this guy was like almost in tears because he finally reached this state where the guy was like, yeah, this is the way to make the egg dish.
02:03:52.000And that this is this thing that this guy had been studying the art of making sushi, like the properly aging of the fish, which I didn't even know.
02:04:26.000But there's so much that goes into it, and if you care enough to look at all the nuances of it and to really get into the specifics of it, then you can create something that has meaning to you and really can develop you as a person.
02:05:14.000A long-term approach to work that systematically seeks to achieve small, incremental changes in processes in order to improve efficiency and quality.
02:05:27.000Yeah, the Shokunin definition said, like, the definition of tradesman isn't good enough, but there's more deeper meaning when you get into, like, the Japanese culture.
02:05:39.000I actually think that this topic that we're talking about right now, this is one of the main reasons why Jordan Peterson got very popular.
02:05:46.000Is because Jordan Peterson, he talks a lot about stuff that other people take for granted about self-improvement and like getting your own shit together.
02:05:56.000And so that was like a market that was waiting to be served for so long where people wanted to have a little bit of direction and structure and framework as to how do I go about doing that.
02:06:52.000Or, you know, if some people say something that's really intense, like the David Goggins podcast, I plan on listening to that one again because it was so inspirational.
02:08:00.000There's something about guys like him that are very, very valuable to us.
02:08:04.000And I think people get real cynical about the idea of inspiration because there's so many ridiculous, like, not to single out girls because there's guys who do it too, but there's some funny shit about girls who just stick their butt out on Instagram and they have all these, like, motivational quotes.
02:08:18.000Well, you know, Corin and I were talking about it before.
02:08:21.000It's amazing how many Kim Kardashian clones exist now.
02:08:25.000I mean, and even in her own family, I don't know all the names of them, but one of the younger ones, it's like she went to the plastic surgeon and she was like, I want to look like Kim.
02:09:06.000R. Crumb, there was a great documentary called Crumb, and it's about this guy who's this, like, really eccentric, perverted cartoonist from the 1970s.
02:09:15.000And he would always draw these women with these enormous legs and enormous butt.
02:09:27.000Into, like, super-athlete DNA. Like, if you could get that girl and make some male babies with it, you would have a fucking ultimate warrior.
02:09:44.000Yeah, that's actually him with his boner, because he was this really frail, dorky guy, and he's got this image of this woman who just looks like a tank.
02:09:53.000She has these giant muscle legs and big boobs, but not like ridiculous stripper boobs, but more like just super alpha DNA female boobs.
02:14:29.000I mean, there's people that have body dysmorphia in terms of their facial features.
02:14:34.000They just can't stop tweaking their nose.
02:14:36.000Did you hear about, I read an article about how somebody was like, I know I'm supposed to have a hand here, but it feels so fucking foreign that, and there's been multiple recorded cases of this, where they will shove their fucking hand in dry ice so that they can get it amputated,
02:14:52.000so that afterwards they can say, look, I'm free, I finally feel normal.
02:14:55.000And they say that to them it feels like, if I had a fucking third hand just growing out of here, I'd feel like that shit doesn't belong.
02:15:02.000There are some people where they feel like their hand doesn't fucking belong.
02:15:06.000And what that shows is like the variation in human psychology is so fucking broad that it's scary because when you really digest that that exists, you also can understand how, well, there's monsters out there too who want to fucking massacre people and they dream about that shit and that's how they get their rocks off.
02:15:26.000There's so many different paths that thoughts can go down, and there's so many different weird pathologies that the mind is capable of.
02:15:35.000But the idea that you would think that you're supposed to be handicapped, and you're not handicapped, so you want to chop off a foot or something like that.
02:15:46.000I shouldn't say it's common, but it's definitely documented.
02:15:50.000So let me ask you, what's your take on...
02:15:53.000If somebody's transgender and they want the surgery, and let's say they're either in the military or they're in prison or something like that, is that something that you think should be provided for them or no?
02:17:17.000But there's also people that identify with being a six-year-old girl.
02:17:21.000I mean, there's been documented cases where people identify as being much younger than they are and they think they should be able to have sex with young kids.
02:17:26.000So I feel like, so on the transgender one, I feel like for a very long time, I don't think I understood it at all.
02:17:33.000And then I think I finally got it when it was explained to me like, okay, imagine that you as a straight, you know, cisgender male.
02:17:47.000As a white male, let's say I walk outside and I'm forced every time I go outside to wear a fucking wig and lipstick and high heels and a fucking dress.
02:18:01.000The first point you made, which is, hey, maybe they were just born with the wrong programming, that they're born biologically male, but they really feel like they're a woman or vice versa.
02:18:09.000So if that's the case, and it's basically like torture for them to not...
02:18:34.000At a certain point, there are things that are real, and there are things that are not real.
02:18:38.000And I feel like It delegitimizes the ones that are real when you go too goofy and too far and you try to pretend like gender fluidity is a thing.
02:18:46.000Well, isn't it what we were talking about earlier when we were talking about left-wing people versus right-wing people that in the term left-wing people, anybody can join.
02:18:55.000And you're going to get people like the green-haired people that were...
02:18:58.000Disrupting Heather Hying's speech because she was saying there's a difference between men and women.
02:19:02.000You're going to get those nutty fuckers and then you're going to get people that are just reasonable people that happen to be progressive.
02:19:08.000You're going to get that with gender fluidity.
02:19:10.000You're going to get that with people that are transgender.
02:19:12.000You're going to get that with people that are...
02:19:15.000You're just going to get a wide variety.
02:19:18.000It's very difficult to nail things down and decide.
02:19:21.000But for everybody who looks at that and then gets turned off to that and says, you know what, I align more with the right wing because of that culture stuff, I get that feeling over the culture issues.
02:19:32.000But again, the point that I would make to them is, just don't forget that...
02:19:56.000If you focus on those issues, the economic issues, the substantive issues that change people's lives, then, you know, I think that one can look at the culture issues as almost like a diversion because it really is a gateway to other ideas that I think are terrible.
02:20:14.000So I think the idea of people on the left calling out That goofiness is a good thing so that you can redirect them and be like, well, this is what I actually stand for.
02:20:25.000This is what people who are on the left and want to improve people's lives really want to fight for.
02:20:31.000Yeah, I was talking to Douglas Murray about this yesterday, and there's this thing where everyone was forced to say that Caitlyn Jenner is beautiful.
02:20:40.000Like, you couldn't just accept that she was a woman.
02:20:42.000You were forced to say that she was beautiful and that she's a hero.
02:20:45.000And that's where you get the gateway to the right, because people go, if that's what you're going to tell me represents the left, then go fuck yourself, because you're just not being, you're not telling the truth.
02:21:04.000There needs to be a giant wave on the left of the take-no-bullshit approach to stuff.
02:21:11.000Well, I think when it comes to the transgender thing, too, you need to be open to All avenues of this discussion.
02:21:21.000And one thing that I think we need to be open to, we need to think very carefully about why it is that someone needs surgery to be themselves.
02:21:30.000Why it is that someone needs exogenous hormones that aren't native to their biology to be themselves.
02:21:37.000Like someone who wants to take estrogen as born a male.
02:21:40.000If you feel that you're a woman, or you feel that you're in the wrong body, Does it make sense that nature wants you to get surgery?
02:21:53.000Does it make sense that nature wants you to take hormones that don't exist in your body?
02:21:57.000This is a rational area of contention and discussion.
02:22:02.000This is something that people should talk about.
02:22:07.000Is forced to wear lipstick and high heels and makeup and walking down the street but that's not who you are, wouldn't that frustrate you?
02:22:14.000But it doesn't necessarily conversely work where you are walking down the street without lipstick and high heels and makeup and you're saying, that's what I'm supposed to have.
02:24:05.000Is it your situation with your relationship, your career, your life, your health?
02:24:10.000All these different things need to be taken into consideration instead of just putting some duct tape over it in the term of these SSRIs and all these different psych medications that they're handing out just as easy as they're handing out OxyContin.
02:24:22.000They're passing these fucking things around.
02:25:10.000It also might be possible that if she had rigorous exercise on a daily basis, cleaned up her diet, and did a bunch of other things, that maybe that would be just as effective, if not more.
02:25:35.000I mean, you tell me that you have it, you know what it is when you have it, but how do you know that what you have is the same as what that guy has, or what she has, or what other people have?
02:25:44.000But what we do know is, the human body reacts in very different ways when it's well fed, with nutrients, And when you exercise on a daily basis, you flood your body with the natural endorphins that come from that exercise.
02:25:58.000When you surround yourself with a loving community, when you engage in things that are rewarding to you, all these things have a very positive effect on the way your mind works as well as the way your body feels.
02:26:09.000The way your body feels has a positive result on the way your mind works.
02:26:12.000To think of either one, of being independent of each other, I think is ignorant.
02:26:49.000So if you're making the point that they're over-prescribed and people rely on them too much and it's part of the culture in a negative way, totally agree with you.
02:26:56.000If we look at the example of, say, paranoid schizophrenia, where it's somebody who literally sees shit that's not there and it's a genuine psychological disorder where they need a very powerful drug like Seroquel or something like that.
02:27:22.000I don't know, but then this gets back to the point you made about the personal freedom angle of it, where they say, you know what, I'm going to do this and this is what I want to do.
02:27:28.000I definitely think they should have personal freedom to do it, just like they think they should have personal freedom to get their fucking nose pierced and do whatever you want to do.
02:27:45.000Like, how about girls that identify with a girl who has big tits?
02:27:48.000I identify as a girl who has big tits, and I have little tits.
02:27:51.000So you're saying the line is fucking blurry.
02:27:53.000Well, it's certainly blurry, because it's the same thing.
02:27:55.000It's the same thing in terms of you don't like your physical state, and you want someone to change it.
02:28:00.000And if you say you would be happy if you had D cups, but you have A cups, and you're convinced this is the key to your happiness, how is that any different than a person, and you could get mad at me all you want, but we're talking about the physical state.
02:28:14.000Like, how can you say that the only way to fix this, or how could you not offer that up as a possible avenue that these people can pursue it?
02:28:25.000If there's any surgery that can help you and you want other people to pay for that surgery, just because it pertains to gender doesn't mean we have to automatically acquiesce.
02:28:57.000I'm just saying, if that is the case where, and by the way, I haven't read the science on this, but I'm sure there has been science on this, and they've answered the question as to whether or not doing that surgery is effective.
02:29:37.000Is it causation versus correlation, right?
02:29:39.000Is it because they were depressed, because they were in the wrong body that led them down this road, and now here they are, and they just can't get past it?
02:29:45.000Even after they have the surgery, they're still bummed out.
02:31:20.000So a lot of people in the trans community were like, you know what, fuck her, because she was out there arguing, I forget, it was gay marriage was one of them.
02:32:50.000The uncomfortable truth that many surveys, including the 2011 Swedish study, indicate that suicide rates remain high after sex reassignment surgery.
02:32:57.000The Swedish study reports that people who have had sex reassignment surgery are 19 times more likely to die by suicide than is the general population.
02:33:05.000To be fair, to be fair, I see the sources LifeSite News, which is a very, very right-wing.
02:33:09.000That's true, but the National Center for Transgender Equality reported in 2014 that 40% of the people who identify as transgender have attempted suicide.
02:34:00.000Speaking of people who would be a better example and a better face of the transgender movement, Brianna Westbrook is a candidate who's running for office.
02:34:08.000And there's actually a special election today, and she's running for Congress.
02:34:14.000I know about her because I founded Justice Democrats, which was a group that was going to primary corporate Democrats and run candidates who take no corporate PAC money.
02:34:24.000And what you find is, the people who are really respectful are the people who, like, she happens to be transgender, but she's not putting that front and center.
02:35:16.000To say, you know what, okay, if you want to do the surgery now, you can do the surgery.
02:35:20.000Well, going back to Heather Hying and Eric Weinstein, there was an article that I believe Brett Weinstein put up on his Twitter yesterday, or maybe it was Heather.
02:35:35.000But they were discussing this real problem with kids who are really young where it becomes a trendy thing to think that they're in the wrong gender and then they get reinforcement from their very progressive friends who also get excited about this idea and then to intervene surgically or chemically when your body's still in development.
02:35:58.000You're 13 or whatever the fuck you are.
02:36:02.000And you should be able to give yourself a chance to grow and develop.
02:36:06.000But there's a lot of people that disagree, including people that are already transgender, that, in my mind, they're probably more supportive of it because they want more people to do it.
02:36:15.000Like, Steven Crowder had this weird thing where he and Jared, that guy that he does his show with, went to this meeting and they were talking about, they just did this undercover film thing, where they were talking about their six-year-old.
02:36:26.000Like, is that too young to transition him?
02:39:22.000Some people grow up in horrible households where the dad's misogynist, there's no mom, and this kid's gonna have a fucked up idea what women are.
02:39:31.000Same could be said about women or girls who grow up with a hateful mother who hates men.
02:39:36.000I mean, you have a lot of weird shit that you have to get over as you become an adult, as you move out of the nest and you become your own person, establish your own ideas based on your life experiences and education, what you've learned from all the other people that you've interacted I mean, it's not a hard,
02:39:53.000fast rule, but I think there's a big difference between that and voting on what happens with our future, what happens with war, what happens with...
02:40:01.000There's so many things that a 16-year-old kid is just not ready for.
02:40:05.000So, but, like, again, I think my counterargument to that is, but there are a lot of fucking 68-year-old idiots out there, too.
02:40:16.000But anytime you have a system where you say, ah, well, you're an idiot so you can't vote, it's always inevitably just flipped back to be used against the poor in society.
02:40:34.000And that's like, so that's kind of what we're talking about here.
02:40:36.000And in terms of drawing the line, I don't know, I just feel like there's something right about drawing one line and saying everything over this.
02:40:42.000But I do hear you, like, it is true that sex is a very different thing from voting.
02:41:51.000So what drives me fucking crazy is that you have these guys who did all these things, they know damn well that what they did at the time was just experimentation, there was nothing morally wrong about it, and now we have a system where we lock up fucking thousands of people, millions of people over the same shit?
02:42:05.000Meanwhile, they became president when they did that?
02:42:24.000Now, to Obama's credit, towards the end of his time in office, he started doing pardons and commutations of those sentences.
02:42:30.000But the thing that drives me crazy, again, to get back to one of my main points here, is I hate the fucking incrementalism and gradualism moving towards the thing that we all know is the right answer.
02:42:38.000We all know the right answer is to legalize it and fucking let every single non-violent drug offender out of prison and fucking apologize to him.
02:42:43.000Not only that, the hypocritical nature of having all this coincide with the pharmaceutical industry selling opioids that are killing people at a radical rate.
02:42:51.000While they take contributions from them.
02:43:17.000And I'm not even begrudging an older person who's like, fuck it, I'm checking out, let's just give me all the pills you want.
02:43:21.000But my point is, if that's going to be the mentality for them, why the fuck would you lock up poor people for smoking weed or doing cocaine or whatever the case is?
02:43:30.000Yeah, I don't think anybody could rationally argue that.
02:43:32.000I mean, it just seems at this stage of the game, especially when it comes to things that are non-toxic or non-fatal, things like marijuana or kratom, there's no argument against it.
02:43:53.000That table right over there will kill you.
02:43:55.000Yeah, if you drink all that, for sure.
02:43:57.000Yeah, there's a table over there with a big bottle of Gentleman's Jack, there's a couple of bottles of whiskey, there's some whiskey from some place in Bakersfield, and a big jug of wine.
02:44:53.000Executive Billiards, if you walked out of Executive and take a right in White Plains, Nicky's was on the right-hand side, but I heard Nicky's burnt down.
02:45:51.000Fucking goddamn, if they have the same recipe, run, do not walk.
02:45:56.000Run to Nicky's and get some of that white pizza, or any of their pizza.
02:45:59.000So, speaking of your crazy stories about at Executive Billiards and all the crazy characters you met there, my friend Coren and I, when we were in high school, we would go play poker at these basically underground spots in New Rochelle, and they were either...
02:46:14.000Like Rounders, like the movie with Matt Damon?
02:47:39.000Gambling should be fucking legal, because it's illegal, push it underground, now those guys run it, and then people get their fucking hands chopped off.
02:49:10.000But I definitely believe people were murdered there.
02:49:13.000There used to be a tunnel that would go from the back of the comedy store all the way up to Crest Hill, which is a street above the comedy store that the comedy store used to own.
02:49:21.000I think they bought the two of them together.
02:49:23.000And it was like a tunnel where they'd take booze and dead people and shit and fucking scoot them up there and throw them in the back of a trunk.
02:50:06.000But I don't, like, how the fuck do network executives approve shows where it's like the fucking Long Island Medium or some shit, and it's like they pretend to talk to the dead?
02:50:14.000How the fuck are you gonna put that on daytime TV like it's not complete and utter horse shit?
02:50:18.000Well, that was one of the problems that happened when I was doing that sci-fi show, the Joe Rogan Questions Everything show.
02:50:23.000They wanted to make sure that I wasn't out to debunk a lot of the shows that they would have on their network.
02:50:28.000And I go, look, I just want to find out what's going on.
02:50:37.000Doing that show was very eye-opening because I realized what kind of people are really into these things.
02:50:41.000They're just whimsical, hopeful people that don't have much going on.
02:50:45.000They want it to be real that there's a 10-foot-tall furry man living in the forest or that aliens come down and suck people out of their beds and bring them through walls in the middle of the night and all that shit.
02:50:55.000Well, you really took it to the chemtrail people.
02:51:10.000No, he thinks that most of what you see, according to him.
02:51:14.000But see, Alex, he goes with the weather a little bit, too.
02:51:17.000He thinks most of what you see is just condensation trails that happen when you have a jet engine and you have the cold air and condensation in the atmosphere.
02:51:37.000The idea that they're spraying something and that something happens to have aluminum and barium in it, but it also looks exactly like a cloud.
02:52:07.000I don't get, because there's a thing that people do where it's almost like they're trying to find the worst possible fucking argument, and then that's the part of it that they get obsessed with.
02:52:17.000And this goes back to the thing about Trump, where I told you on CNN, all they did for an hour and a fucking half was talk about Russia.
02:52:23.000And it's like, I'm sitting there going, I just covered a story on my show last week about how the head of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is a guy named Mick Mulvaney.
02:52:32.000He took over $50,000 from the predatory payday loan industry.
02:52:36.000Donald Trump at his inauguration took over a million dollars from the predatory payday loan industry.
02:53:39.000But the idea that he's a Manchurian candidate or he did treason is so ridiculous that it makes me, a guy who's massively anti-Trump, scoff and get really angry when people try to push that narrative.
02:53:52.000It's an open legal question as to whether or not you can indict a sitting president.
02:53:57.000Usually what has to happen is you have to impeach a sitting president.
02:54:00.000Well, right now Congress is overwhelmingly Republican.
02:54:03.000You know who's not gonna fucking impeach Donald Trump?
02:54:06.000Even if they prove the worst case scenario that he's some sort of Manchurian candidate, the Republicans are not gonna fucking impeach him.
02:54:12.000So at the end of the day, when the Democrats focus on this ad nauseum, the reason they're doing that is because it's something that...
02:54:21.000They feel comfortable and safe talking about because they don't have to talk about Medicare for All or free college or a living wage or getting the corporate money out of politics or ending the fucking wars which they also support.
02:54:31.000So they're not talking about real issues and they're focusing on the fake scandal and sensationalism because they think it will score them cheap points with the electorate and it won't and they think there's an endgame here and there's not.
02:54:58.000So, I know more of the details about Flynn.
02:55:01.000So Flynn is a guy, he got, what's his face, Mueller went after Flynn, and it was proven that Flynn took $500,000 from the Turkish government, and in return for that, he pushed the Trump administration to not arm the Kurds who are fighting ISIS. And the reason why is because Turkey hates the Kurds,
02:55:22.000and they don't want us to arm the Kurds.
02:55:24.000So in other words, Michael Flynn was doing the bidding of the Turkish government and pushing their influence in our government, and he didn't register as a foreign agent in the process.
02:55:44.000Well, that's the open question as to whether or not, at some point along the way, whether it's with Russia or with other countries, by the way, nobody talks about the fact that Trump registered eight new businesses in Saudi Arabia when he was on the campaign trail, and then he just gave them over a $100 billion weapons deal.
02:55:57.000He also took $270,000 from top Saudi officials at his hotel when he was president-elect, and then again, he gave them over a $100 billion weapons deal.
02:56:07.000Has, you know, millions of dollars from Israeli banks.
02:56:10.000And then lo and behold, when Donald Trump was president-elect, they tried to push the UN to not condemn Israel over their illegal settlements.
02:56:18.000So you have his entire administration is just a grab bag of corruption and foreign influence.
02:56:23.000But it's foreign influence across the board, and it's influence also from corporations.
02:56:28.000But again, people are not focusing on the corporations, and they're not focusing on the other countries that they're corrupt with, because they're hyper-focusing on the Russia thing.
02:56:35.000And at the end of the day, they want to impeach Trump over Russia.
02:56:39.000But, like I said, it's gonna be hard to prove, and then it's an open question if you can indict...
02:56:43.000I don't think you can indict a sitting president, you have to impeach.
02:57:41.000And that's another part of this that pisses me off, is that if the Democrats really wanted to resist Trump, Resist that!
02:57:46.000See, I don't want to send our fucking military to get into a standoff with Russia.
02:57:50.000I don't want to bomb fucking Syria and permanently occupy it.
02:57:53.000This is how the Democrats should be resisting.
02:57:54.000They should be resisting Trump from a left-wing position and from an anti-interventionist position.
02:57:58.000But instead, everything you hear from the Democrats is, he's under Putin's thumb and he needs to make sure that he's even harder on Putin and he does more sanctions against Putin and he escalates further with Russia.
02:58:08.000Listen man, they're in nuclear armed power.
02:58:10.000Do you wanna fucking get into a confrontation with a nuclear armed power?
02:58:13.000We're sitting here living our lives just going about our business.
02:58:16.000And we're- this is- I mean, this is crazy.
02:58:18.000We're rolling the dice and we're playing a game of chicken with Vladimir Putin.
02:58:23.000Do you think that they're just caught up in this sexy thing?
02:58:34.000I think it's driven from the top down, from the establishment media down, from the Democrats down, because again, if you talk to regular people, They're fucking hurting.
02:58:43.000Wages have been stagnant since 1980. There's 30 million people that don't have healthcare.
02:58:48.000In Trump's first year in office, 3 million more people lost healthcare because he did all these executive orders that basically took a hatchet to Obamacare.
02:58:57.000So you have all these people who are really hurting.
02:59:01.000They care about, you know, not being saddled with over a trillion dollars in student loan debt.
02:59:05.000This is the shit regular people care about.
02:59:07.000So when they turn on CNN and they see Russia, Russia, Russia, even if you don't like Trump, I despise Trump with every fiber of my fucking being, but when I see this, I roll my fucking eyes.
02:59:16.000And then they have the nerve to say, oh, Trump won't shut up about Russia.
02:59:20.000You were talking about it all day, and he responded to it, and because he responds to it, you're like, oh, there he goes again with Russia.
02:59:27.000Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see how this all plays out.
02:59:30.000I'm really fascinated, and I'm fascinated to see if he can make it out of four years.
02:59:40.000He has a fucking chance, because if the Democrats run Kamala Harris, if they run Cory Booker, or any of the other corporatists, he can win, because he's gonna go right back into his tap dance about being a populist and helping people, and guess what?
02:59:52.000In the first few years of his tax bill, regular people did get a tax cut.
02:59:55.000So he's going to say, look at your tax bill.
02:59:57.000I just gave you an extra thousand dollars this year.
03:00:00.000And so there is an argument that he's going to make to the people.
03:00:03.000And if you don't have somebody like Bernie Sanders or Bernie Sanders talking about the issues that matter to people, well then of course he can fucking win again.
03:00:13.000Listen, I was laughed at when I said, if it's Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton, he can win.