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00:02:51.000Just doing that, I mean, you know, you get crazy strong.
00:02:54.000I worked construction one summer in Washington, D.C. in the 95-degree heat, and I had to dig a foundation for a building, for a house, just dig into the ground all day.
00:03:07.000And then we had to demolish a house and take that debris, put it into a truck, and then drive it to a landfill called Lawton, I think.
00:03:16.000And then we would take it off the truck.
00:03:20.000So that movement of digging and then like demolition and digging and piling it in a truck and then piling it off a truck, you're too exhausted to do a goddamn thing.
00:03:40.000If you could get a job like as a mason or some sort of manual labor on a construction site where you're carrying lumber, you'd just be lifting things up, carrying around all the time, your body would just naturally get stronger.
00:03:50.000The strongest guy I've ever felt in my life in jiu-jitsu was a Mexican guy who was a mason.
00:06:16.000And if you stop and you freeze frame on somebody when they're having a moment, You can catch them in any, like, that whole spectrum, the human spectrum, sinner and saint, and anything in between.
00:06:36.000Isn't it funny, too, that we quantify certain things that are just dumb?
00:06:39.000Like, there's certain things you just never, you're just not going to bounce back from the Rachel Dolezal thing, when she pretended she was black, but she really wasn't black.
00:07:06.000Even though we all believe in equality, we all want to be not equal.
00:07:09.000We want to be a little better than the next guy or at least unique.
00:07:12.000And that's maybe where competition comes from and stuff.
00:07:15.000But I think sometimes people negotiate that issue and that problem with a very clumsy...
00:07:22.000Apparatus with a really weird way of doing it.
00:07:24.000I'm gonna be transracial or I'm gonna I'm gonna wear dishes in my ears and and and Literally cover my whole face with tattoos.
00:07:31.000That's fine Super common there might yeah there might be a better way to negotiate that that problem you're having because it's a It's still pretty surface you ever look at the hashtag face tattoo on Instagram.
00:07:43.000No, holy shit There's a lot of people getting their face tattooed.
00:08:22.000And having been oppressed and all those things, and yet you triumph, yet you find a way to be funny, yet you find a way to be colorful, yet you find a way to be artistic.
00:08:33.000I mean, rap came from the South Bronx while it was literally on fire.
00:08:39.000Yeah, and rap is just one aspect of it, right?
00:09:35.000Is it the environment they're coming from?
00:09:38.000I mean, it's a fascinating thing to be explored, because for all this talk of racism, if you just want to be really honest, There's a lot of African-Americans that have some pretty phenomenal genetic traits.
00:09:52.000Think of who's the biggest freak all-time athlete basketball player, would it be?
00:11:31.000I mean, some of them can be like a fist off of eight feet.
00:11:33.000That's where like Manute Bol and those people came from, okay?
00:11:36.000If you go just another country, just one more country east, now you're in the Congo, and that's home to the pygmy.
00:11:43.000So you got the shortest people in the world in one country and then just cross the border and you have the tallest in the world in that country.
00:11:50.000But if you look at the athletes with the most explosive power, and that includes the fastest people in the world who are in Jamaica and who are in the United States, genetically you can trace them back to a very small part of Africa according to this book,
00:12:08.000The Sports Gene, which is the Biafra Coast.
00:12:10.000And so that is where you'll see the fastest, most explosive people.
00:12:15.000However, having said that, you can hear Deion Sanders watching this white running back, 215 pounds.
00:12:34.000I mean, there's got to be some Viking genes floating around.
00:12:37.000Sure, but there's no, I don't think there's any black, It's just fascinating when you stop and think about just the sheer number of people involved in professional athletics.
00:12:52.000The sheer number of people that make a living playing a game with their body.
00:12:57.000Yeah, but I don't know if that kind of athleticism helps you become a champion in tennis.
00:16:46.000I mean, you had to have some ungodly resolve to get through the Mongol era and the fucking caveman era and think about all the different shit that's happened in between.
00:16:57.000Just think about the people that colonized this country.
00:17:00.000We were so far removed from people who lived here and rode wagons across the country just 200 years ago.
00:17:12.000Camille Paglia was talking about this.
00:17:14.000Why were most of the people that revolutionized the human condition male?
00:17:18.000Like, so in other words, the printing press and Einstein and Copernicus and Galileo and Kepler and, you know, all these people that kind of like, you know, and why so few women?
00:17:29.000And so a lot of academic circles, they're the only people.
00:17:32.000Single variable answer is that women were kept down by the patriarchy or whatever it might be.
00:17:37.000Very condescending, though, if you think about it, because that would suggest that women didn't find their way through the cracks.
00:17:42.000But for the most part, and there's some truth to that, but for the most part, there's another really interesting theory that men have...
00:17:48.000Men and women tend to have two different kinds of brains.
00:17:50.000We've evolved to have two different brains because women have to watch out for children and pay attention to the minutia and keep them away from death.
00:17:58.000Whereas men have the kind of brain that can obsess over just one thing, even if it doesn't really bear any relation to the material world.
00:18:04.000So they can think about whether time bends or whether the relationship between time and matter and space, you know.
00:18:13.000They'll just zero in on that problem and obsess over that problem.
00:18:17.000And you have those extreme winners that literally, to the exclusion of everything else, including their family, including other people, focused on just one thing.
00:18:25.000But in a lot of ways, thank God we had that aberration, because that is what revolutionizes, that is what changes a lot about how we live.
00:18:34.000They're little explosions that make this thing move quicker.
00:19:18.000He wrote a book called How to Fix the Future.
00:19:21.000And also a book called The Internet's Not the Answer and another book called The Cult of the Amateur and kind of likens, in The Cult of the Amateur, he likens, you know the infinite monkey metaphor?
00:19:33.000So if you had an infinite number of monkeys just banging away at a typewriter, eventually one of them would type out a masterpiece like a Shakespearean play or something.
00:19:52.000Like, what are the odds that just randomly this monkey on just accident put the periods in the right place and the spaces in the right place and the commas in the right place?
00:20:37.000But he said that these infinite monkeys, that's basically what YouTube and what the internet has ushered in, right?
00:20:43.000But long story short, when you're talking about Elon Musk, he was talking about how, in his book, How to Fix the Future, the nine tech billionaires, of the nine tech billionaires, They own more wealth than 1.8 billion people on this planet.
00:20:58.000We've actually never seen this kind of concentration of wealth.
00:21:01.000Luckily, guys like Jeff Bezos, who he knows really well, and these other guys like Mark Zuckerberg, are kind of aware, they have some historical perspective of where they stand, and for the most part, they're doing their best to try to figure out a way to be responsible with this wealth.
00:21:19.000There's also the fact that they're coming from a tech background, which is...
00:21:24.000Historically been really fucking smart people, right?
00:22:17.000When you have that kind of money, idealistic, hippie, left-wing dreamers are way better off throwing that money around than really gangster globalists that are pro-war, really enthusiastic about right-wing politics.
00:22:34.000If all that money, the billions of dollars, was in a Christian cult that thought that the Second Coming was going to happen in Jerusalem, so it was very important to protect Israel.
00:23:46.000I think it comes down to what I'm amazed at is I've talked to some of these far-left ideologues, you know, and And especially the people that would shout down Christina Summers, who's such a reasoned voice and such an important voice.
00:24:34.000But I think a lot of this is, like, one of the things I noticed is that a lot of the left-wing ideologues like that, first of all, are fairly young.
00:24:42.000A lot of times they don't have a whole lot of experience in the world.
00:24:45.000Or, you know, they are people who are, like, if you just take the average journalist, and I've met a lot of them now and talked to a lot of them, the average journalist, even the average academic in colleges or in the people that are kind of controlling this conversation in certain aspects...
00:25:01.000They have just not really ever met anybody or worked with anybody that worked with their hands, that spends a lot of time that had to be in the military.
00:25:18.000You know, I mean, even Sam Harris, by his own admission, said that in his Rolodex of 1,100 people, he only had one friend who smoked, and that was Christopher Hitchens.
00:29:20.000Nobody can tell me, you don't understand the history of this country unless you study the black experience, at least a little bit, because that is such a huge part of the history of this country.
00:29:39.000If you were to ever, like Thomas Sowell, who's a black scholar, if you were ever to bring up the idea that maybe Part of the problem in certain groups, okay, that aren't doing well, could be internal,
00:29:55.000could be of their own making, could be that there are certain aspects of that person's culture, whether they're Inuit, whether they're Mexican, whether they're black, or whether they're a hillbilly white guy.
00:30:07.000If you start talking about the fact that their culture and the way their beliefs, their practices could have something to do with why they're not getting ahead, you better be goddamn careful, because now you're blaming the victim.
00:30:23.000It is true that, well, you're not really necessarily blaming the victim, right?
00:30:27.000Because a victim, in this case, is a person who's a part of a culture.
00:30:30.000And we're all influenced by our environment.
00:30:32.000And if you're involved in a culture that has very specific ways of behaving, and you're supposed to engage in these, and whether it's, you know, female genital mutilation that they do to children on a...
00:30:43.000Regular basis in some parts of the world.
00:31:14.000It's like you get locked up in the momentum of your past, of the past of your family, your ancestors, your community, your environment.
00:31:23.000Very few people have complete autonomy.
00:31:24.000So the idea that we're supposed to ask somebody to just figure it out or get their shit together or pull themselves up by their bootstraps, it's pretty preposterous.
00:32:32.000If you're not going to be reasonable and you're going to decide that you're that right, that your side is rooted in truth and love and my side is rooted in falsehood and evil, I don't know where I'm going to go.
00:32:46.000All these progressive issues are all...
00:32:47.000No one is ever super into women's rights but racist.
00:32:51.000They're all like, there's a pattern of behavior that you're supposed to follow.
00:32:55.000You know, like progressivism, it's a really interesting predetermined pattern that everybody locks into because it supports gay marriage, it's like all these things.
00:33:03.000Well you can, yeah, it's like if you're in favor, if you believe...
00:33:07.000That global warming is caused by human beings.
00:35:04.000White guy shooting a white guy, too, by the way.
00:35:06.000I don't even know if that has anything to do with racism with a lot of what cops are doing.
00:35:10.000I think some of it most certainly does, but I think a lot of it has to do with people who are just incompetent and they're police officers and they shouldn't be police officers.
00:35:19.000And on top of that, I think the stress of the job just breaks people's brains.
00:35:23.000I think sometimes people are just so out of their fucking mind with worrying about being shot and dealing with trauma and dealing with violence and dealing with domestic abuse and fucking murdered kids and all the fucked up things they see every day.
00:35:51.000Sometimes they plant a gun on the guy.
00:35:52.000I mean, sometimes it's absolutely a dirty cop.
00:35:55.000You know, sometimes the guy's reaching for his wallet and they shoot him in the car with his baby in the backseat.
00:36:00.000There's been a bunch of these things, man, and I think it boils down to more than anything people that are fucking completely incompetent at being a police officer.
00:36:08.000What's amazing is The number of interactions where you never hear shit about, what's amazing is how many people get pulled over every day, how many people deal with a cop, how many people get questioned by a cop, how many people are in a situation where a cop has to talk to them about something that happened and nothing happens and nobody gets shot.
00:36:52.000And the number of cops that save lives or stop crimes from happening and all those things.
00:36:57.000But, you know, human beings have this crazy brain, right, with this negativity bias where something like violence and stuff has such an effect on our brain.
00:37:05.000Like, we're really good at seeing problems but really bad at coming up with the solutions.
00:37:10.000Like, we tend to jump to, so if there's a problem, if it's a very, like, think about terrorism, right?
00:37:16.000People die and it's a very scary situation.
00:38:40.000It was chilly, and then I'd be sweating, and I was like, okay, I'm just gonna get under the covers and Netflix the fuck out of these couple of days.
00:39:29.000I ate breakfast, it worked out, I'm healthy, hanging out with my friend, having a little podcast.
00:39:35.000There are two things they talk about when you do aid to a country.
00:39:38.000Number one is this fucking behavioral scientist named, he wrote a book called Scarcity, and his name is L.R. Shafir, and I did a podcast with him.
00:39:48.000And he studies how humans behave when they don't have enough food in their stomach.
00:39:53.000Most economists wrote their treatises Adam Smith, the father of capitalism, was also living with his mother when he wrote The Moral Sentiments of Man and the Wealth of Nations.
00:40:14.000Well, you know, this woman, I was talking about the free market, and I'm a free market guy, and, you know, I'm a capitalist, and she said, that's great, and I've been inundated in sort of the extreme Milton Friedman, F.A. Hyatt kind of school of economics, but she was like, she wrote a thing called Donut Economics, and she's out of Oxford,
00:40:30.000and I can't fuck, Kate Rayburn, and she said, well, you know what they don't tell you is that when Adam Smith was writing The Wealth of Nations, the fucking handbook for all capitalists and free market guys like yourself, is that his mother was like, Adam, dinner's almost ready!
00:41:21.000We're in this number where we don't give a fuck about each other enough.
00:41:24.000And I think that one of the ways that that could be solved, I've been thinking a lot about universal basic income.
00:41:33.000That if that was a possibility where you could give everybody just a small amount of money, like $12,000 a year, which is like $1,000 a month, it's basically enough to get by, but you wouldn't have to think about that then.
00:41:49.000You wouldn't have to think about that aspect.
00:41:52.000Like, if we could make sure that everybody always had food, and everybody always had a place to sleep, what would that cost?
00:41:57.000What would it cost to eradicate homelessness?
00:42:00.000To a point where, if you were homeless, it was a total voluntary situation.
00:42:04.000Either you're just a nomad who likes camping, or you're mentally ill, and you just need to sleep in a box because you think that's the only way that the aliens can't get you.
00:42:13.000There's those people, like Skid Row is filled with those people, right?
00:42:54.000The U.S. could end homelessness with money used to buy Christmas decorations.
00:42:59.000It would cost about $20 billion for the government to effectively eliminate homelessness in the United States, a housing and urban development official told the New York Times Monday, December 11, 2012. I think that's the wrong question.
00:43:16.000Or feed a man and teach a man to fish, right?
00:43:21.000It's a weird question, but it's also one that no one's addressing.
00:43:27.000You look at people who are homeless, you go, oh, you fucking bum, get your shit together, oh, you lazy fuck, or oh, you crazy person, oh, he must be a junkie, you know?
00:43:36.000Yeah, but so can I tell you, so my friend does this, works with homeless youth, and pretty extensively, hasn't done it for 20 years.
00:43:44.000And actually, what he'll tell you, and he's a very compassionate person, but he'll tell you that The system in this city of Los Angeles, there are a lot of resources for people on the street,
00:44:00.000from places to get a computer, places to sleep, places to take a shower.
00:44:06.000And what happens is there are a lot of people that get this network.
00:44:30.000You can live on the street and when you're a youth, you can actually, if you understand how to work the system, there are so many resources that a lot of times It doesn't lend itself to really needing to get out of a situation, right?
00:44:45.000Yeah, but how many of these kids are planning this out like this with a game in the system?
00:44:49.000Because you're a human being, so you figure out where you can get your breakfast, where you can get your shower, where you can get your computer, where you can get your hangout, where you can get all these things.
00:44:56.000And you think somehow that's hurting them?
00:44:58.000Look, I'm not saying we shouldn't have these resources.
00:45:01.000I thought it was fascinating that a lot of the people that are really in the front lines and involved in this...
00:45:06.000Saying that the the ironic and frustrating thing sometimes can be that it does create not complacency but certainly There are way more resources than you think there are people that have worked very hard to address this problem and People do it when they know where to go.
00:45:28.000They do know where to get a shower They do know where to do right so they can live on the street But there's many levels to this, right?
00:45:33.000First of all, one of the big levels, the inescapable, is mental illness.
00:45:37.000There's a lot of people that are wandering around the street that really should probably be in some sort of an institution getting health care and medicated.
00:45:46.000But how do you force someone to do that?
00:46:16.000If you talk to the psychiatrist, they'll be like, look, dude, the criteria for saying and getting somebody essentially classified as a danger to society and a real threat is very steep.
00:46:53.000No, he might be a different person now.
00:46:55.000You have to realize that, like, people get way worse.
00:46:57.000Like, we've all known people that we knew at one point in time in their life, and then you don't see them for six years, and then you see them, and you're like, whoa.
00:47:03.000Well, that's because people evolve, and sometimes they evolve, and sometimes they don't.
00:49:45.0006.4 million children between the ages of 4 and 17 have been diagnosed with ADHD. By high school, nearly 20% of all boys will have been diagnosed with ADHD. A 37% increase since 2003. My son is a classic example of a kid who doesn't like to sit still in rough houses.
00:50:05.000Google the origin of ADHD. Schools have no time for it.
00:50:28.000Yeah, 1900 ADHD was first mentioned in 1902. British pediatrician, so it must be a wrong one, a different one, described an abnormal defect of moral control in children.
00:50:39.000He found that some affected children could not control behavior the way a typical child would, but they were still intelligent.
00:52:18.000And what the fuck does feel good mean?
00:52:20.000The other thing that they're not taking into account is that, you know, you might be depressed for a good reason.
00:52:24.000In other words, if you made me do a job I hated and I wasn't allowed to work out or I didn't know how to eat or a thousand things that make me feel good, because I have to self-regulate.
00:52:34.000I'm 51 and I still have to self-regulate because otherwise I'll go crazy.
00:52:41.000If I don't have, if I didn't know how to do those things, I would probably be depressed.
00:53:24.000If your kid was involved in something where they emphasized physical movement and then taught things in between workouts, taught things in between classes, you know, play a game outside, play a little dodgeball, play a little soccer, play a little basketball.
00:53:39.000Then, after you wear yourself out a little, come sit down and we're going to teach about math.
00:54:11.000Did I ever tell you that my acting teacher, who looked at me one time, is the greatest, and he goes, I've done a scene, and he goes, you know what we got with you?
00:54:51.000So I say to my buddies, kind of a group of guys, one of my buddies is older and wiser, and I said, man, I was told I have low self-esteem, you know?
00:54:59.000And I heard a voice in the back over there that goes, thank God.
00:56:54.000He goes, well, why don't you let your body adapt and figure it out?
00:56:57.000Just eat some food, see how it feels, but maybe suffer a little bit and see what that does because your body might have to compensate and get stronger as a result.
00:57:41.000When somebody says something to you, like, you're not taking yourself, you're not working hard enough, or you're not working correctly, or you did this wrong, or your ideas are a bit bankrupt, let me tell you why.
00:58:01.000If you could just sit and listen and take it in, not argue it, listen, take it in, feel bad for a while, I promise you, I promise you, that's probably the best way to change.
00:58:13.000Listening and hearing it, because it'll bother you, let it bother you, and then let that spurn you to action.
00:58:19.000But if you want to shout Christina Summers down, or you want to get into your safe space and not hear those things because they hurt We're good to
00:59:46.000Well, because if you're having an argument with somebody and you end up hitting them because they're saying things you don't like, it means you don't have the ideas to compete with their ideas.
01:00:34.000No, I'm saying American culture has always given their kids recently too.
01:00:39.000Jonathan Knight talks about this, like helicopter parenting and sort of the idea that your kid has his own autonomy and it's very important.
01:00:46.000I've seen all the new science on this.
01:00:50.000Your kid is allowed to exercise their point of view and have a tantrum and then you have to show them that there are consequences for that.
01:01:00.000You know, that's a new way of looking at, you know, a lot of cultures are like, hey, if you fucking talk to me like that again, I'm gonna hit you in the fucking, I'm gonna take this riding crop and whack your fucking legs or whatever it might be.
01:01:20.000And I think ultimately a lot of these kids that are super radical now will probably stabilize as they get older and more experienced and be more embarrassed with some of the things they've done to Especially to disrupt free speech.
01:01:33.000They should really be embarrassed by that because it's so foolish.
01:01:36.000All you have to do is formulate a really good argument to what that idea is, and then you play those ideas out in the court of public opinion.
01:01:44.000You do it in some sort of a way where you have...
01:01:47.000One person representing one side, one person representing the other side, and you beat that idea with better ideas.
01:01:53.000And that's what you're supposed to do.
01:01:56.000And these people that oppose your ideas, you should use that to challenge you to improve your ideas, to make your ideas undeniable.
01:02:04.000So that when you present that argument, you've looked at it from both sides.
01:02:07.000There's far too many people, including these people that are interrupting people, that are only looking at an argument from the point of view that they would like to be correct.
01:02:14.000They're only looking at it like she's a fascist, she's a Nazi.
01:02:17.000They're not looking at her and going, hey, maybe that's just a lady, and maybe she's a nice lady, and maybe she's got some points, and maybe I agree with her, and maybe I don't.
01:07:36.000You can't drug kids and fuck them in the ass.
01:07:37.000I mean, Asia Argento, who was one of the people that came out against Harvey Weinstein, she had been raped by him, apparently, and then she had a sexual relationship for ten years afterwards, which, by the way, people are like, ah, I actually forgive that because people go back to the trauma, right?
01:07:51.000They want to relive it on their own terms.
01:10:06.000They'd only been making movies for like a few decades It was a real new thing.
01:10:10.000She signed the petition, but I found a tweet She just put she put out a couple months ago where she said she regretted doing it.
01:10:16.000I already regretted the signing the petition years ago She said Roman Polanski's a filmmaker whose work I admire greatly But if I ever see him I'll spit in his face if he's lucky Yeah, but you signed the petition.
01:10:28.000I already regretted signing the petition years ago.
01:11:49.000What's interesting is like, would it be better, karmically, to go to jail for what he did, come back, go to jail, and then no one, everyone would always know when you got out that you were convicted and you were punished For child molestation like you did it and they got you everyone would know whereas now He's living in France and he has to deal with it floating over his head everyone who meets me knows that I drugged and raped a kid Everywhere
01:12:19.000I go Everyone knows I drugged and raped a kid and it just keeps playing out in his head all day public shaming is Powerful shit.
01:12:52.000I had an argument with a bunch of older actors about this, and they were all saying it was a long time ago.
01:12:57.000I was like, if it was your daughter and she was 13, how would you feel?
01:13:02.000You just got to keep going back to that.
01:13:04.000Well, especially if you actually have a daughter.
01:13:06.000If you actually have a daughter, you're not conceptualizing that.
01:13:10.000You've got it actually locked into your brain.
01:13:12.000You're actually thinking about your daughter, and it becomes a completely different thing.
01:13:16.000I remember thinking when I was young, you know, yeah, if someone did that to my daughter, but that was like, before I had a kid, it was like, that was just a weird concept.
01:13:26.000But now you think about this 13-year-old girl, and you're like, whoa.
01:13:30.000But what a court would do and what a trial would do is you might hear something like, I don't know, but you might hear, I don't know, she said she was 20. When we talk about drugging, hold on, she smoked a little weed that that guy gave her over there.
01:13:48.000Then you start hearing all the extenuating circumstances, and maybe you would go, you got to do the time, but at least I get how that happened because you thought it was something different, right?
01:15:07.000I don't like the fact that someone would at least temporarily have that thought in their mind like that guy should be free, like leave him alone.
01:18:38.000And then you make sure that you're responsive to the evidence.
01:18:42.000And then even if you build up a whole reputation on your conclusion, you have to be willing to change your conclusion based upon new evidence.
01:19:23.000I was a moron at 30. I remember feeling that awkward lack of control I had for myself, like feeling how awkward it was and wishing I had more composure.
01:19:33.000I remember like actively feeling that at 21, that it was so impulsive and so crazy and I wished I was more composed.
01:19:39.000And I would see people that had their shit together and I would really admire them.
01:19:42.000Like, look at that guy all composed and shit.
01:20:45.000The female-male debate back and forth is ridiculous because people vary so much inside those groups that for someone to say, all women do this, women are all thinking this, women are...
01:21:24.000A lot of fucking really smart ones that'll blow your mind in a conversation and they just happen to be female.
01:21:30.000And there's a lot of them that just happen to be male.
01:21:32.000And that male who happens to be fucking brilliant and articulate and mind-blowing has almost no fucking relation to some idiot, shithead, ditch-digger asshole.
01:21:50.000No, but it's also like, one of the things I noticed is you have a lot of people from different backgrounds.
01:21:54.000You got Nigeria in this corner, you got Pakistan in that corner, you got China in that corner, you got fucking America, you got a white guy from Iowa.
01:22:00.000When they all have to get food out to a group of people in a restaurant, or they got to figure out a way to run a business together, all that shit, nobody has time for that shit.
01:22:10.000Everybody's kind of working toward a common goal.
01:22:11.000Nobody has time if you actually have something important to do.
01:22:14.000It's when you don't have something important to do, you start looking at, like, weird shit.
01:22:30.000Yeah, I think all human beings, just like your son, have a physical requirement.
01:22:34.000There's a bond requirement that we all have with each other.
01:22:37.000There's a love requirement that we all have with each other.
01:22:40.000We have to get a certain amount of love.
01:22:42.000You've got to have a certain amount of bonding and camaraderie with the people around you.
01:22:45.000And these needs should be just like they give you a vitamin C chart.
01:22:50.000USDA recommended daily allowance of vitamin C is this.
01:22:53.000Recommended daily allowance of iron is that.
01:22:56.000All that stuff is important for your body.
01:22:59.000I think you have an equally important Requirement for your your mind.
01:23:04.000Yes, and for just your physical being like not necessarily your body in terms of like nutrition But just love and warmth like the human touch, you know, the babies will die if you don't touch them, right?
01:23:15.000Yeah, it's called failure to thrive So in hospitals when they have babies that don't have parents they have people that come around and hold the babies Jesus Christ He's not held you can feed the baby and everything if the baby's not held the baby will die Fuck.
01:23:29.000They have to be touched by another human being.
01:24:43.000There's no clear-cut, single variable answer.
01:24:46.000It's just so fascinating that all of our bodies have different requirements because we literally developed in different parts of the world.
01:25:06.000Because I'm Mediterranean than I do with Holstein cow dairy.
01:25:08.000Dude, my daughter, when she was little, she would throw up if she drank cow's milk, but she would drink goat's milk, and she'd have no problem with it at all.
01:26:06.000So you want to buy eggs, and when you go to buy a carton of eggs, you know they're going to cost $1.50 or $2.50 or $3.50, whatever.
01:26:14.000You know that they're going to cost a certain amount.
01:26:15.000You don't go to the egg store and one day they're $3.50 and the next day they're $12.
01:26:20.000And the reason for that is this, that we figured out a way to create enough eggs so that there is enough of a glut so that we can keep the price at a certain level.
01:26:31.000The problem with if you had all these family farms, okay, which I've always been a fan as I always talk about family farms versus factory farms.
01:26:58.000The problem is that, if you look at the way farming works, is that some family farms aren't as good as other family farms for a thousand reasons.
01:29:43.000When you're gathering up all that grain, you're going to need to feed all those two million people that don't have access to animal protein anymore.
01:30:05.000Very hopeful for that, because if we could figure out a way to make it healthy to get that kind of meat, you would still have population control problems, and I think I would never stop hunting because of that.
01:30:17.000But it's meat without a central nervous system.
01:30:19.000It's meat without a central nervous system, and we could probably, if it's done, and it really works, I mean there's a lot of ifs there, but we could probably eliminate most of the factory farming.
01:30:29.000The real problem would be like, what would you do with all those cows?
01:30:51.000There's always going to be a marketplace for eating food as it, quote-unquote, occurred naturally, which, of course, Holstein cows are not natural.
01:30:59.000That's the other thing I was going to get to.
01:31:00.000The problem with letting them go, if we ever let them go, they morph.
01:32:35.000You've got to recognize that if people stopped having domestic cattle and they just let those cattle roam through, you would have a devastating impact on the ecosystem just like you have with wild pigs.
01:34:47.000They take the almonds, they soak them, they sprout them, and then they press them.
01:34:51.000Right, but that dirty water is just water that the almonds were soaking around in.
01:34:55.000No, because they don't do it that way, I don't think.
01:34:57.000I think the way they do it is they crush the almonds after the almonds have been soaked, they take the skin off, and then they crush them, and then they...
01:35:51.000With this straightforward recipe, the composition can be modified to leave potentially harmful components such as cholesterol and hormones out of the equation.
01:36:50.000You're eating little tiny, tiny little animals.
01:36:52.000I think 9 out of 10 of your cells are not human, they're bacterially.
01:36:57.000Every cell of your body is made from it, and all of your steroid hormones are synthesized from cholesterol, including all of the sex and adrenal hormones.
01:37:06.000Well, you definitely don't want that in your body, then do you?
01:37:09.000Why would you want something that's responsible for every fucking cell in your body?
01:37:41.000I also believe, in many ways, it's a left-right thing, that the left believes in climate change science wholeheartedly 100%, but does not believe in gender science.
01:38:10.000She was doing a speech with James Damore.
01:38:14.000They were talking about gender diversity, and she's just talking about the differences between males and females from a scientist's point of view.
01:39:10.000But you would think that it would be more educated.
01:39:12.000Is it, again, is it left and right or is it just, is it, is it, are we talking about just people who are, I feel like when we talk about these people that are knocking over sound systems and walking out and shouting down Christina Summers, I don't know if they're right or left.
01:40:04.000And again, like we talked about before with Christina Hoff Summers, there's just a bunch of people that are free from their parents for the first time.
01:40:42.000I like that there's a lot of fucking chaos, and definitely some people are taking some unnecessarily bullets, and there's definitely some ideas that are getting shut down that shouldn't be, and there's definitely some overuse of the word Nazi and fascist and all this different stuff, but it seems like overwhelmingly all this crazy energy is being pushed into at least the idea That we're improving the world.
01:46:24.000He cheated on his wife constantly, killed people.
01:46:28.000But what was fascinating about him is that it was the dichotomy.
01:46:31.000It was the guy who loved his family, told his son to do his homework and not to swear at the table, and also would order a hit in the same breath.
01:46:40.000That insane Contradiction was what you can't take your eyes off because we're bipolar apes Because you can be a very bad guy and also a really good guy and that's what that's what's fucking crazy and true about human beings Well, that's just what's brilliant though about that writing is that they figured out how to encapsulate that in fiction Where it's playing out every week and you're not you're not sick of the guy Like you wanna you want to see if he's gonna make it.
01:47:12.000But that show is an interesting metaphor for life.
01:47:17.000I guess what I really worry about with our social situation today is the destruction of people and how they're never allowed to come back into the fold.
01:48:30.000And sometimes when people are trying to be funny, especially when people are around each other all the time, they get stupid and they cross lines and, you know...
01:51:58.000There's some incredible amount of money, or an incredible amount of people, rather, in this country that have less than that in their bank.
01:52:21.000The people that voted for Trump, you know, a lot of them have been demonized by, you know, the left as being racist or homophobic or misogynist and stuff like that.
01:52:30.000Or they're good people who have $400 in a bank or less, can't send their kids to baseball, etc.
01:52:39.000And along comes Hillary Clinton, who's Obama-lite, talking about the same shit.
01:52:43.000And they were like, I'll try anything but her.
01:53:47.000And Brett is the professor from Evergreen College that got the day of absence where they made him quit because they were saying white people need to stay home.
01:55:07.000And that's what makes them feel significant when they've been emasculated.
01:55:11.000And I don't think it's, you know, that's the expression, punishment doesn't change behavior, it just suppresses it.
01:55:18.000Well, do you know that in the turn of the century, not this one, but the last, there was a giant bachelor culture In America, where men just didn't, they had just gotten through, like a lot of it was like in the 20s too, like after the Depression.
01:55:35.000It was like the burden of having a family was just too much.
01:55:38.000It wasn't attractive to them, and there was a bunch of men that gravitated towards pool halls.
01:55:43.000And in the early 1900s in New York City, there was more than 900 pool halls in New York City.
01:56:23.000If people found out that they could just get sex anytime they wanted if they had a hundred dollars, like if you have a hundred dollars, you can get sex.
01:56:31.000You can get sex with a pretty girl and it's clean and you don't have to worry about it.
01:56:50.000We have to live together, and I have to control his sex.
01:56:53.000If we live together and then I control his sex, then I have all this power.
01:56:57.000But if they were in a situation where legalized prostitution was just like grocery stores, or it was just everywhere, what would the power, first of all, the amount of hoes would probably be the same.
02:00:16.000We had these urges, and a lot of them are not very productive, right?
02:00:21.000So you want to have sex with everybody you can or whatever it might be, but you know that's not viable because there are just certain trade-offs to that.
02:00:29.000Well, you know, the viable alternative is ex machina.
02:00:34.000You have these AI robot fuck dolls that live in your house.
02:00:38.000But the problem is they probably get too smart and then they kill your real wife.
02:04:04.000They've tapped into this extreme desire for gossip in some weird, crazy way where they do all these wacky things in their life where you can't take your eyes off of them and they always have something new going on.
02:05:19.000I think if you wanted to travel and you wanted to go on some big-time adventures, which I have decided I'm really interested in doing some adventures some year, especially hunting adventures.
02:06:31.000I was watching a thing online about these guys that were hunting for bighorn sheep, you know, and they were in the Rocky Mountains, hunting for Rocky Mountain bighorn sheep with a bow and arrow.
02:06:44.000And I was looking at these things, and I'm like, what a crazy animal.
02:06:47.000Remember we saw them when we were in Montana, and Ranella was pointing out the size of their balls?
02:09:15.000Like, let them collide with each other and then figure out, like, what happens to the brain.
02:09:19.000Like, is there some burst of happiness that comes out of that?
02:09:21.000Well, didn't they talk about this in Concussion?
02:09:24.000Where they don't suffer from brain trauma or CTE, actually?
02:09:28.000They don't get, you'd think that they would, but male, the male rams don't have signs of CTE. Yeah, their brain is designed different than ours.
02:10:37.000While we were cleaning that animal, when you were doing the ravine comer, I remember I sliced my finger open, just touched my finger with the blade and my finger squirting all over the place.
02:10:48.000Meanwhile, I gotta really dig in to get to this meat.
02:10:51.000I gotta really cut through all this skin.
02:11:15.000On Twitter, when the episode of Meat Eater came out, when you and I were in Montana, and I was like, don't plan on being comfortable, it's in the cold.
02:12:10.000I told them the next one counts on us to come.
02:12:12.000Because we did one where we struck out, we went bow hunting for deer in Arizona last, not Arizona, excuse me, Nevada last, I think it was August.
02:17:40.000From safety and beautifully manicured lawns and landscaped grounds to we get out, we are maybe 100, 200 yards from the outside, and we see a military base.
02:17:56.000It's a very small military base with two guys with bulletproof vests and helmets on, holding, I don't know what kind of fucking high-powered rifle, are behind a metal plate.
02:19:49.000I mean, I guess he's living in America now, but he's like a bona fide wild man.
02:19:54.000Like, he denied these reports, but there's a forum where someone was taking photos of meth that they were making and explaining how they're re-engineering meth and making it better.
02:23:36.000If you want to use, if you want to be, if you don't want to believe in things like due process, integrity of courts and all those things, if you don't want to believe that you should have a right to criticize your government,
02:23:57.000I know it works for you right now because the person in power is on your side, but you're next.
02:24:03.000You're next as soon as the tables flip, and the tables always flip.
02:25:14.000Of the 435 seats in Congress, The ones that aren't gerrymandered, the ones where your vote actually counts, there are about 35 of those seats.
02:25:24.000About 35 of the 435. I think that's the number.
02:26:39.000Yes, he had some good ones because that and my other favorite Mark Twain quote, loyalty to my country, always to my government, only when it deserves it.
02:26:50.000You know, he does a really good job of saying that 35 seats really matter.
02:26:54.000And those are the only ones that matter.
02:26:56.000Those are the only districts worth voting, you know, where it makes sense to vote, where if you're a Republican or a Democrat, where that's a contested seat.
02:27:07.000Those congressional candidates, or those ones who are in the seats already, they have to raise money to stay in power.
02:27:14.000So they're talking to their donors, and their fundraisers are the ones that are telling them what kind of issues they better hit on if they want the big donors.
02:27:53.000You know, George Washington said, right, when they wanted to make him king, he said, I didn't fight this revolutionary war to become George II. And George, George, King George was the king over there.
02:28:03.000And when King George found out that George Washington refused the kingship, And said, no, I'm a president and I will serve a term and, you know, I'll go back to Monticello or wherever he's from.
02:29:12.000But it's kind of hilarious that the king doesn't have to show any merit.
02:29:15.000Like, they didn't rise through the ranks by hacking their way through a river of enemy.
02:29:19.000They didn't just figure out a way to bring prosperity to the land and some people voted them as king.
02:29:25.000Well, actually, it's actually fascinating that this small island of pale people basically controlled almost the entire world.
02:29:33.000And one of the things that's given credit is that the British had this sort of religious idea almost.
02:29:38.000It was called the Great Chain of Being.
02:29:40.000And the Great Chain of Being was you have God at the top.
02:29:43.000King is second place, then you have the aristocracy, then you have the nobility, the landed gentry, and then the serfs.
02:29:52.000And for you to aspire out of your place, your God-given place, for you to say, I may be an aristocrat or a noble or a landed gentry, but someday I'm going to be the king, that would be considered fucking heresy.
02:30:07.000That would be the equivalent of you saying, I think white people are better than black people today.
02:31:11.000That's a huge, that's a huge issue now.
02:31:13.000I have a lot of friends who come over from England, man, and they just talk about that, like how you could actually do something here and people are supportive.
02:31:43.000It's why when Hollande of France started talking about taxing the rich 75% of their income, it was met with a great deal of support because it wasn't workable, but there's always been a real suspicion in Europe of people with too much money because they become aristocracy and they become oppressive.
02:32:06.000That's echoed by what you're hearing today about the elite, the one percenters, you know?
02:32:11.000The problem with wealth inequality in this country.
02:35:39.000Oh, anyway, if you look at how the Greeks were able to export timber, wine, and olive oil...
02:35:50.000It gave their economy some money and they had leisure time.
02:35:54.000They didn't have to live on subsistence.
02:35:55.000They could trade for things that they needed as opposed to making them themselves.
02:35:59.000So the Greece, ancient Greece, was fairly wealthy in comparison and it gave a large sector of their population, at least the richer population, time to do things like not be in the fields all day, but rather time to sit around, eat and think and talk.
02:36:22.000So you wonder, like, as we get to a point where we don't have to do so much, it becomes very easy to keep our bodies in homeostasis, right?
02:36:30.000Keep our bodies at the right temperature, and we just need a certain amount of food and shelter.
02:36:35.000And then, look at how cheap entertainment is.
02:37:55.000Alvin Toffler, I think that's who it was, the futurist, who said, you've got to learn how to learn, unlearn, and relearn.
02:38:00.000And that's the only way we're going to survive in the fucking 21st century.
02:38:03.000I'm not really worried about people surviving.
02:38:05.000I think we're going to be okay in that regard, as long as we don't get hit by anything.
02:38:09.000Like, we don't get Putin, or we don't get hit by an asteroid, or we don't get hit by a supervolcano, which are all those things that are actually really possible.
02:38:17.000I mean, no one wants to think that we can get attacked by Russia, but frickin' for sure we can.
02:38:22.000All sorts of weird scenarios can present themselves in this wacky life with a bunch of things falling into place in the wrong way.
02:38:27.000All of a sudden, you got World War II. It's happened.
02:38:30.000I mean, that's just the nature of humans.
02:38:32.000And if we deny the past, ah, that was then.
02:39:05.000Hitler, the financial crisis, the housing crisis, it goes on and on, and history is full of that.
02:39:10.000Most wars start as a weekend skirmish, and people kind of leave for the weekend, leave all their stuff, and it's going to be over, and before you know it, it's a 30-year civil war that's happened in Lebanon.
02:39:22.000So, you've got to at least know that you're not going to be able to predict the future, but know that the unpredictable will always be present, and will always take what you...
02:39:32.000Took to be reality and flip it on its fucking head and I think robotics and I think AI are certainly You know that tidal wave do you worry at all about superpower struggles between like the United States and China United States and Russia way less only because I think that there's less there's less profit in violent warfare and It just doesn't profit anybody.
02:39:56.000There's way more profit in trade and dealing with, you know, you're gonna have issues like this tariff issue, but for the most part...
02:40:02.000So the biggest advantage is that there isn't a whole lot of advantage for a country to take over territory, because that's not what makes you wealthier.
02:40:14.000So if Russia came in and took over Silicon Valley, there's nothing to take over.
02:40:20.000I don't think they're talking about doing that.
02:40:21.000I think they're talking about dropping a bomb somewhere.
02:40:24.000What they're saying is essentially that they're not talking about invading the United States.
02:40:40.000Yeah, it's not likely unless they feel like there was some way where they would benefit extremely well from having us debilitated.
02:40:47.000It's not likely because we would attack back and it's mutually assured destruction, right?
02:40:51.000But the fact that a person could make the decision whether or not to do that or whether or not that's logical and you're relying on a person who's essentially a murderous dictator running this fucking crazy half-assed government over there.
02:44:17.000So a 50-mile-long, 35-mile-wide volcano that just blows up to the point where the top's not there anymore.
02:44:25.000It just shoots off shit a mile into the sky, and then you get nuclear winter all over the globe, and anything even remotely near it gets cooked instantly.
02:46:35.000And I go, what the fuck are you talking about?
02:46:38.000And he said, he's going to win a Nobel Prize.
02:46:40.000And he said, okay, I guess the best way to put it is, think of you having virtual reality goggles on, and people are splashing water on you as you're in the water, and you're getting rocked back and forth.
02:46:53.000I guess that's the best way to describe what you consider to be your reality.
02:47:09.000I didn't know how to get into this, but he was talking about how electrons can communicate with each other, like on a sheet of metal, and they don't see each other.
02:47:18.000In terms of the electrons, they're light years away, but they completely all work together.
02:50:16.000So, somebody like Antonio DeMasi, who is a behavioral scientist who wrote a fucking great book, but very dense, called The Strange Order of Things.
02:50:26.000And he talks about how human beings behave in a certain way, like their feelings Are directly related to their biology because their feelings are essentially the voices or the mechanism by which you know whether or not to bring your body back into homeostasis when it's out of homeostasis,
02:50:48.000when it's out of this homeodynamic actually state, right?
02:50:51.000So in other words, that mob is probably going in there with axes because they perceive, the feelings are they perceive a threat Bacteria actually behave the exact same way.
02:51:17.000And you can put bacteria into certain, and there's a scientist who does this a lot, you can put them into certain conditions where the bacteria will behave like they'll do some fascinating things.
02:51:27.000Not only will they fucking take over the other bacteria and go out into an all-out war and kill mercilessly the other bacteria, but sometimes when they find they can't kill that bacteria, they'll actually cooperate with that bacteria.
02:51:41.000Within the ranks of their own bacteria, the bacteria that are not pulling their weight, that tend to be lazier than the other bacteria, even though they're the same species, those bacteria will be fucking shunned.
02:52:00.000Insects, If you look at insect colonies, they behave very much like human cultures do.
02:52:06.000You got an ant that's protecting the queen ant, or a bee that's protecting the queen bee, you have soldiers that do the fighting, you have workers that do the working, and they self-organize in this incredible way.
02:52:20.000And nobody's really, it's not like it's somebody, it's not a top-down thing, it's sort of a genetically programmed thing, but their behavior is very similar.
02:52:29.000Their behavior, so even with bacteria, when they can't beat this bacteria, they'll join forces with that bacteria to defeat the other bacteria that's weaker.
02:53:46.000I've decided a long time ago that, I mean, you can take some probiotic pills and stuff like that, and I definitely take some when I'm on the road.
02:53:54.000I bring that on at total gut health because if I'm on the road, I don't know what the fuck I'm eating, right?
02:53:58.000I want to make sure I'm getting good food.
02:53:59.000But while I'm at home, I eat a lot of fermented vegetables.
02:54:11.000That shit, that kombucha is fucking phenomenal, that GT's kombucha.
02:54:14.000I heard somebody in my family got endometrial cancer, and the doctor said, the surgeon who deals with this exclusively said, do me a favor and just don't drink these for a while.
02:54:30.000And he said, I can't prove this yet, but I see a direct link between this type of cancer and women who drink a lot of probiotic drinks like this.
02:55:33.000How is there a USDA when everybody's body is so radically different sized?
02:55:38.000How come 1,000 milligrams is good for this guy and it's not good for him?
02:55:43.000I think that there's a lot of people, too, that are probably just not getting the right fucking combinations of food, too.
02:55:51.000You just need to experiment, figure out what's the right combinations of things for you.
02:55:56.000That was what the whole Gracie diet was based on.
02:55:59.000The Gracie diet was based on you shouldn't eat certain foods in combination because the enzymes that are to break down fruit are not good to mix with the enzymes that break down meat, and you should eat them separate from each other.
02:56:12.000They had a bunch of whole theories about that stuff.
02:56:15.000What do you think if there were certain truths about diet after all this time?
02:57:23.000If I cut into nice American corn-fed steak, tastes delicious, but it's a lazy meat.
02:57:28.000I cut into a piece of elk, I go like, oh.
02:57:32.000It just rumbles somewhere deep in your DNA. You eat a deer.
02:57:36.000There's something about eating a deer.
02:57:37.000Your body's like, this motherfucker was sprinting all day.
02:57:40.000You know, there's something in there that's different.
02:57:43.000You're eating an animal that has this vitality to it, a wild vitality.
02:57:47.000Charles Poliquin, you know, the strength coach, talks about, he goes, for me, I have to eat, my favorite meat is the longhorn antelope in the north of Canada.
02:57:56.000They spend a lot of time running away from wolves.
02:57:58.000So, you know, the glycogen in the meat is always...
02:58:01.000They always have a high level of glycogen.
03:07:14.000He goes, your breath is so out of control...
03:07:18.000So apparently he had an abscess, a sack of bacteria in the back of his mouth.
03:07:24.000Well, when they took the filling out and they popped by accident the sack, The nurse threw up and the fucking dentist walked into the room at that moment and pulled his mask off and threw the fuck up as well.