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00:00:37.000I was a redneck for a while, and then became a Yankee.
00:00:43.000The people up North, they don't give a shit what people think, North or South, but the people from the South, my family, they're like, you're part Yankee now.
00:04:20.000But you could always take that big scoop and kind of put it in a freak party desert or something where people that like ghosts and crap can go out there and play in it or camp on it.
00:04:44.000A couple of my friends at the Comedy Store have claimed to have seen ghosts and claimed to have seen things.
00:04:50.000And I, with many of my friends that work there and comics and stuff, we've gone upstairs to the belly room in the dark and just freaked ourselves out and went, ah!
00:07:13.000But I think if it was real, I really do believe that if it was real, this is the trailer for Omaha.
00:07:20.000See, and Pat McGee did this with all special effects like suits and shit and actual makeup and prosthetics and all the stuff that they used in the old movies.
00:07:31.000Like, he doesn't believe in that CGI shit.
00:07:38.000I mean, you look back at some of the movies that scared the, you know, scared the hell out of you when you were a kid and you watch them now and you're like, what?
00:10:28.000He doesn't do it with anyone else but for whatever reason Peter Pan is just his little brother and he just kicks the shit out of that sucker.
00:15:38.000Get the internal temperature, I get it to around 120, and then I take it out and just sear the outside in the frying pan and let it sit for 10 minutes, and ooh!
00:15:47.000One thing that a lot of people don't realize, too, when it comes to cooking a really good roast or steak or anything is I love having those soft Yeti bags or the smaller cooler.
00:16:00.000And I'll take the stuff and actually kind of wrap it just slightly in foil or butcher paper and then put it in the cooler.
00:16:07.000And let it actually stage in there and just stage in that moisture while I'm doing my vegetables because it takes about 20 minutes to do vegetables.
00:16:17.000And then take it out right at the very end to do that reverse sear.
00:16:20.000Normally, when I put it in there, it gives me time to get a cast iron pan hot enough with the butter to do a reverse sear.
00:16:27.000So it's really good for timing and it really helps break down that protein a little bit and it just makes it that much more tender.
00:16:35.000That's interesting because I was doing that for a while, but I was doing it after I did the sear.
00:16:39.000I was taking it right from the grill, and then I was searing it.
00:16:54.000Yeah, stage it first, start your veg, and then, like, you know, probably two minutes before you feel like you're going to pull your vegetables off.
00:17:01.000Just get that butter going in that cast iron pan and then do your reverse sear.
00:17:05.000You know, you can do one side and then as soon as you flip it, pull your veggies off the grill and you're literally, you can go right back to the, you know, that one side you reverse searing and take it off and you're serving hot.
00:17:19.000Well, that's one thing that I really give credit to Steve Rinella.
00:17:22.000Steve Rinella really got me interested in wild game cooking, and then Hank Shaw, who he had on his TV show, who's a brilliant chef, and he's got a couple of books out.
00:17:33.000One of them is Buck Moose, I think, and then he's got another one.
00:18:11.000But I almost like the fact that That people really like my cooking, or at least the pictures and what I make.
00:18:19.000People are really into it, because if they knew that my knowledge of cooking wild game is so limited, it should be hope for anybody to be able to cook that easy, because I'm not those guys.
00:18:32.000I mean, I think if, you know, I would love to do that, but...
00:18:36.000I'm as simple as it gets when it comes to grilling stuff.
00:18:40.000Yeah, but I'm telling you, there's an art to that simplicity.
00:18:43.000Just you describing your method for letting it stage and then searing it and what we learned from Chad when we cooked that wild pig.
00:19:48.000We've actually been within the same group of friends talking at times, but we've never actually done something where we had to have a communication, just the two of us.
00:21:59.000It's hard enough to hunt and be successful, but to film it is like a whole new level.
00:22:05.000Yeah, just to bring the cameras around with you.
00:22:07.000And like with Remy, if you watch his show, Solo Hunter...
00:22:10.000Or Tim Burnett, the other guy that's on that show.
00:22:12.000They're always holding a tripod and running up a hill while they're also holding a bow and setting it up and putting the camera in place and then trying to draw back and trying to move the camera because the deer's moving.
00:22:26.000I'm just fascinated by the people that choose to go deep into the woods and live by themselves and do it for long, long periods of time because it's...
00:22:36.000It's a very interesting and solitary pursuit.
00:22:41.000Like when you're out there, there's no TV, there's no phones, there's just you.
00:22:47.000You only and a backpack and a little tent, maybe a bivy.
00:22:51.000You're sleeping under the stars and then you get up in the morning and do it all over again.
00:22:55.000And some of these guys do it for like 20, 30 days at a time.
00:24:56.000I make sure people that are following me and trying to maybe be motivated by what my daily routine is, I like them to see that I'm going and things like that, but to actually post that I'm doing it because I do it to stay healthy.
00:25:32.000I'm trying to show respect for the people that are literally putting in the grind for those specific things, the same as what I have done with my life for archery.
00:26:29.000You might not be able to do it, but that might be on you.
00:26:32.000I think if you're a rational person and you like comedy and people laugh at you like you say funny shit sometimes, you could be a stand-up.
00:26:52.000I mean, you think about all the hours, all the time, all the different sets.
00:26:56.000But I like it when people get into it.
00:26:58.000So if some new kid has only been doing comedy for three weeks, throws a bunch of pictures on his Instagram page about going to an open mic night, I'm happy.
00:27:07.000Well, I mean, especially when it comes to art form, there's kind of a line there.
00:27:11.000Because when it comes to competition, I'm very, very...
00:27:16.000Active in getting people involved with trying to compete, because I always felt like, even as a coach, when I helped people that were maybe not up to the rank that I was, I felt like once I felt the pressure of them pushing on my heels,
00:27:36.000I've got friends that are within different fields that I'm in, and they actually have came to me and said, hey, we want to show you exactly how we're doing this.
00:27:48.000And in a way, I'm a competitor because I'm in the outdoor business.
00:27:54.000But there's been a few times where some of my friends have said, the reason we're telling you exactly how we do it is because we know that you're going to do it different, but maybe a little bit better.
00:28:05.000And some of them have said, we're stale right now.
00:28:49.000That's where I'm practicing to be in the Joe Rogan business.
00:28:52.000And you're in the John Dudley business, you know?
00:28:54.000I mean, what I was saying before, I wanted to let you...
00:28:59.000Continue your thought, but what I wanted to say was, you feel that way because you're a legit guy.
00:29:05.000Because what you've done, a lot of people don't realize, there's a lot of people in the archery world, and there's a lot of people in the bow hunting world that talk about bow hunting, and they're really into archery.
00:29:15.000But your background as a competitive archer is just insane.
00:29:30.000And it's something that you, because of the fact that you know you put so much effort and so much hard work into it, and you're solidified as completely 100% legit, You're very sensitive to things that you're not legit in.
00:29:45.000So that's why you're a very authentic person.
00:29:48.000Like, when you're thinking about, like, all the running.
00:29:50.000Like, when I post pictures of running, I often think, like, yeah, I'm running, but I don't even have, like, a real job.
00:29:56.000Cam Haynes is out there running 25 miles a day, that fucking crazy asshole, and he's one of my best friends.
00:30:01.000It's like, I can't really think that I'm really running.
00:30:05.000I mean, I know I'm doing it, but it's bitch-ass running.
00:30:08.000I didn't want to use that example, but that is the perfect example because I don't post pictures of me.
00:31:06.000And then on my right side, my right trap, the way my whole right side sits, and my bicep.
00:31:13.000Or also from pulling a bow my entire life.
00:31:17.000And you and I talked about, you know, if you really wanted to balance yourself and stay symmetrical, you almost need to shoot left-handed as much as you shoot right-handed.
00:32:39.000Sometimes you shoot, most of the time you shoot 100 arrows, but I know there's been times where you and I have shot where you've shot, where I know I've shot over 100 arrows and you've shot double that.
00:32:51.000Because normally when I'm about saying I feel like I had a good practice, you're like, yeah man, I feel really warmed up right now.
00:37:40.000I just don't think he could just sit and chill.
00:37:42.000And when Dr. Neil Reardon was discussing all this really heavy-duty scientific stuff in regards to stem cell research and all the different...
00:38:04.000What he asked is, he said, can I come on the podcast and talk about the stem cell research they're doing in Panama and the treatments that they gave to my dad at 92 years of age.
00:38:14.000Now he's thriving at almost 100. It was a great podcast.
00:38:17.000And you know I'm a believer in stem cell because you actually introduced me to Dr. Roddy McGee in Las Vegas.
00:38:27.000I mean, potentially you saved my archery career.
00:38:30.000Well, it certainly potentially saved you from surgery.
00:38:33.000Well, and surgeries are freaking hit or miss, right?
00:38:39.000I was lucky with my shoulder surgery that I got out of there good.
00:38:43.000I know a lot of guys that are into their third one for the same type of thing, but literally I got...
00:38:51.000I took three injections the first time and went back for a second round because I think one of my tears didn't take.
00:38:59.000And literally, I completely avoided surgery because of Dr. McGee.
00:39:04.000And we should talk about this because I don't know the exact specifics of what it was called, what the original treatment was called, but the original treatment that you and I both got is no longer...
00:39:13.000We were calling it Baby Dust this past weekend.
00:39:17.000It's because they're trying to make it legal, but it has to go through a series of – there's a whole process that it has to get it passed because they've declared it a drug.
00:39:32.000Because you take the, it's something about umbilical cord stem cells, you take them and convert them, and then that somehow or another, during the process they believe it's become a drug.
00:39:42.000Whatever that drug is, I had a full length tear of my rotator cuff.
00:39:47.000Now this is from an MRI. Full length tear of my rotator cuff.
00:39:50.000It was painful, it was a real problem.
00:39:53.000Dr. Roddy McGee in Las Vegas, Nevada shot whatever that baby dust is in there.
00:39:59.000And the most recent MRI that I got, which is over a year from his original treatment, but I knew that it felt a lot better, but I just haven't got it checked.
00:40:12.000The first time, which, I mean, I didn't say anything about, but you had been struggling to shoot a lot because It's wear and tear.
00:40:23.000I mean, the bottom line is it's wear and tear over life, especially with you and I. We do a lot of active stuff.
00:40:31.000For you to go back, and you and I went in together last week, and when he said, he looked at you with his confused face and said, yeah, hey, that new MRI, that tear is healed.
00:40:46.000That's a tear that would have normally absolutely required surgery, or I could have just been in pain with an unstable shoulder.
00:40:53.000One of the things that I'm realizing is that over the years of essentially being engulfed in martial arts most of my adult life, and even into my teenage years, like at 15, I became a fanatic.
00:41:07.000From then on, martial arts has always been a part of my life.
00:41:10.000I've done some ruthless shit with my joints.
00:41:13.000Both of my knees have been reconstructed.
00:41:15.000I've had some real problems with my neck in the past.
00:41:17.000Both of my shoulders have caused problems.
00:42:11.00030 times in my life, like no joke, like where I didn't tap and then I was fucked up for a few months and I would tape everything up and keep rolling.
00:42:19.000Well, you hooked me up with Damien in Des Moines for 10th Planet and I really wanted to do jujitsu classes with him, but I'm so afraid to do it in a class because for me it's my arms are my career.
00:42:37.000And I mean it would literally be like Turning a light switch off in your room.
00:42:41.000My friend Max Eberle, he's a professional pool player, he said the same thing.
00:42:45.000He was really interested in trying jiu-jitsu, but he was so scared of getting locked in an arm bar and fucking his elbow up or his shoulder up, and then he wouldn't be able to play.
00:44:51.000I mean, it's not like this podcast, where it's like, we'll talk about all kinds of shit, and how many dudes have little rubber muscle men up their ass.
00:44:59.000J. Scott's not talking about any of that.
00:45:01.000But what he's had, Cody Nelson, who's one of the owners of Outdoorsman's, and they go into like...
00:45:07.000Edge-to-edge clarity, high-end details of Swarovski, Zeiss, Vortex, like, all these different binos, and they talk about, you know, all the different aspects of, like, what's the best shit to buy, what's the best shit for this price point,
00:45:23.000for that price point, and they get, like, super geeky and in-depth with it, but there's no better resource than outdoorsms.com.
00:45:32.000They have all the high-end stuff, they have really good deals, but they also have This Atlas trainer, which is because their whole thing is Western hunting.
00:45:39.000And see, I think most people that don't know what hunting is, or they're not in the world, which is me prior to 2012, they think of hunting as fucking Elmer Fudd, some dude with an orange vest on, shooting some poor innocent animal.
00:45:54.000What Western hunting is, and this is where it gets really weird, it's fitness with mental strength, discipline, and then hunting.
00:49:31.000And the way you work out is to stay healthy and to be fit in comparison to some guy like David Goggins, some maniac, some Cam Haynes-type maniac, right?
00:52:19.000He's actually at a fitness building called Body Masters, but he is amazing at breaking apart scar tissue and literally getting into areas that most people don't take the time for.
00:52:34.000And I normally go for two hours just for one joint.
00:52:56.000A lot of times he tells me that my bicep and my forearm connector on my right side are a lot like what a fighter's are that's a right-hand prominent where they're having impact.
00:53:08.000And the same with my left because as you're shooting, it's just constant hyperextension.
00:53:14.000So you build that scarring in there, and when the scarring isn't, you know, it's restricting the muscle from moving properly.
00:53:24.000He said if you have long hair and you get out of the shower, the fibers aren't going the same direction.
00:53:31.000You have to get all the knots and stuff out of there.
00:53:35.000So essentially he's trying to break up those areas where the muscles aren't flowing back and forth smoothly.
00:53:42.000So even though I don't have necessarily a tear, I feel soreness at times.
00:53:49.000I would say maybe even a chronic soreness, but if I go and actually have that broken apart, it's extremely painful to do, but my performance afterwards is just night and day different.
00:54:41.000It's like part of the thing is massage, and then once she gets in that tissue and loosens it up, then she starts pulling on your arms and stretching you out.
00:55:03.000But this stem cell research that they're involved in right now, what they're doing right now in Panama, because it's not legal in the United States.
00:55:17.000They just passed a significant hurdle in Texas.
00:55:20.000So they're real close to being able to do that in Texas.
00:55:23.000And it might happen as soon as the fall.
00:55:27.000So somewhere around archery season, you might be able to go to Texas and get all the same stuff that we're going to get in Panama, which you should do.
00:55:37.000Man, if anybody listens to that podcast or anybody's talking to someone like me who has benefited tremendously from it, and I haven't even gone and done what he's doing, which is complete next level in Panama.
00:56:56.000To be able to reconstruct something without having to go under the knife...
00:57:01.000For me, I went under the knife with my shoulder and I know that the difference in recovery between literally not being able to almost function a part of your body entirely versus them saying,
00:57:16.000take it easy and work your way back into what you want to do.
00:57:22.000Those are two, I mean, they're like completely different universes.
00:57:26.000Being in a situation where you're, you know, one, you have to take painkillers, which that's not cool.
00:57:32.000Two, having to have someone that you're dependent on, you know, pack pillows under your arm and keep you steady for three days in bed and you can't freaking move around.
00:57:42.000Then you got this, you know, big wedge under your arm and you're walking around versus...
00:57:47.000We literally went in, went through the process, get an ultrasound.
00:58:02.000It goes in, comes out, and then it's done.
00:58:06.000And you literally go home and these things just go to work.
00:58:13.000Yeah, I mean, I'm really, really hopeful for the future.
00:58:16.000We just went in there this past weekend, Roddy looked at the MRI, and he was stunned at the fact that my rotator cuff had been completely healed.
00:58:24.000But I still have some little tears in the labrum area, so we shot some right into the joint.
00:58:32.000But again, they're constantly innovating, so now they're using umbilical cord blood.
00:58:40.000And apparently they're having massive results with umbilical cord blood.
00:58:44.000And then they're using your blood and the PRP. That was cool.
00:59:02.000I mean, I had a hard time carrying a jug of milk with my right arm.
00:59:09.000A lot of people found that hard to believe because, you know, my arms aren't small, I don't think, in average, but I had a tough, tough time carrying a jug of milk in a hammer fist position and then got the MRI,
00:59:24.000saw a few, you know, actually three areas where I just pretty much abused it and tore it apart.
00:59:32.000And got those three injections the first time.
01:00:54.000So, I mean, there's no doubt the progression of this is just like anything.
01:01:00.000It just gets better and better and better and better.
01:01:02.000What's interesting about Roddy, too, what's great about Roddy, I should say, rather than interesting, is that Roddy is a student of medical science as well as a practicing physician and surgeon.
01:01:19.000So every time I have a conversation with him, he's like, there's some new research coming out of this place that shows this, and he's just constantly on the ball with it.
01:01:27.000And so the most latest thing was this weekend.
01:01:30.000I mean, last time I saw him was just a couple months before.
01:01:33.000He's definitely on point with his stats.
01:05:08.000But don't you think this is a lot like a guy who doesn't really know archery Talking shit to you like you're Gordon Ramsay and that guy's a guy who like you know I've been finger shooting my whole life I don't need a release You know I don't use a sight because I shoot instinctive and you're like well you're just not gonna be accurate you know I'm accurate I'm accurate and then he shoots and he misses the target and you like see I told you and then but you're a nice guy Gordon Ramsay is a professional asshole and I don't mean that in a bad way but I mean when someone fucks
01:05:38.000up that guy comes down on you with the hammer of truth and I love it.
01:08:57.000Heavy sparring that there's guys they're hitting each other as hard as they possibly can and all that is is like an ego exercise you're not you're not getting better you're hurting each other you're fucking each other's brains up and Mark and I were talking about that like how many guys get turned off to sparring because they spar with someone who just beats the shit out of them and In a bad gym rather than spars with someone who teaches you just to get touched.
01:09:21.000You just get touched in the face so you know you got hit, you know, and someone who's fast but has control.
01:09:27.000And then you learn how to operate without the fear and consequences of like a wild gym brawl, which is like really common.
01:10:26.000And there's that feeling, well, this is what I've been preaching forever, is that feeling of not knowing how to do something and trying to figure it out is crucial as a human being.
01:10:37.000I think where humans stagnate, that feeling makes people feel weird.
01:10:47.000Because when you get really good at something, and you get stagnant, and you don't worry about it anymore, there's no growth, there's no movement, you know, there's something about that that's very detrimental to the human psyche.
01:11:02.000It's very detrimental to your growth and your constant self-examination, which a lot of people don't like, but I think is important.
01:11:11.000I think it's important for peace of mind, because I think it may bring rocky moments Where you don't like what you find and you just feel like, God, can I just be cool with everything?
01:11:23.000But I think through that path, those rocky moments, you get to understand yourself in a very pure way.
01:11:34.000Understanding the projection of who you'd like people to think you are which is what most people exist in most people exist in this world of slippery shoes and shiny fucking cars and Ties and wearing the right things and saying the right things all those things are sort of designed to project an image That's not necessarily you.
01:11:56.000It's a cheap way of getting people to think greater of you Whereas the only way that people really know who you are is to see you doing something hard.
01:12:09.000They don't know who you are if you show up and the cameras start flashing, you're on the red carpet, you're in the perfect suit, you hop out of a limo, you've got a gorgeous girl in your arm.
01:14:31.000Direct subordinates one of my guys that worked for me he would he would call me up or pull me aside with some major problem some issue that was going on And he'd say boss we got this and that and the other thing and I look at him and I'd say good and Finally one day he was telling me about some issue that he was having some problem and He said I already know what you're gonna say I Said well,
01:20:01.000I'm thirsty at night, and I'm like, you shouldn't drink, because if you drink, then you're going to wake up in the middle of the night, and you're going to have to pee.
01:20:12.000And at 5 o'clock in the morning, I'm peeing, and all I'm thinking about when I'm peeing, I'm shaking my head thinking about that dude chopping calluses off his foot with a goddamn cleaver.
01:20:27.000Well, last time I was here, you talked to me about having kettlebells in random places so that as you walk by them, you can just grab them and do a few sets, not go to failure, right?
01:20:39.000Now, you're freaking running with no music because it makes it tougher.
01:22:48.000Imagine how strong, like, an arm bar has to be, or the pressure on your joint, whatever the fuck it was, but it dug into his finger so deeply that he had to get it surgically removed.
01:24:53.000We were talking about having a conversation.
01:24:57.000And if you have, like, Alexa, or if you have, like, certain things that, like, listen to you while you're talking, like, maybe even possibly Siri, and then all of a sudden you'll go to Google, and what you were talking about, like, slick trick broadheads or some shit like that, will show up in your Google ads.
01:25:36.000But I mean, potentially, you could view that as something like, I would probably want to buy that, and now that it's here and an easier way for me to do it, that is kind of good.
01:25:43.000I'm just going to play the devil's advocate on it.
01:25:45.000If you say, oh my god, I'm going to die out here, at that time, Siri can step in and say, would you like me to call a helicopter?
01:25:54.000But when you're looking at rubber rings for your wedding ring...
01:30:07.000He couldn't pull his bow for almost a year because he had so many problems in the shoulder and he was really dreading the surgery because he was worried about his downtime.
01:30:19.000And I told him, like, man, you need to call Roddy because...
01:30:24.000There's a possibility you don't need the knife.
01:30:27.000And so he went down there and he ended up getting an injection, I think in September or October.
01:30:34.000And then he came hunting with me in November and we actually shot together and he goes, this is the first time I've been able to shoot my boat in a long, long time.
01:30:48.000It's just so cool that there's something like that out there for people.
01:30:51.000And there's a bunch of different versions of it.
01:30:52.000I know people that have had really good results where some places they take the stem cells out of your fat.
01:30:57.000They give you a little baby liposuction, pull some fat out, take the stem cells, mix it up, shoot it into joints.
01:31:04.000People have had real positive results with that.
01:31:07.000It's weird that we did it the way we did it with the blood, but then there's also the out of the bone marrow, which is supposed to be more painful.
01:31:15.000It's supposed to be more painful, but it's also supposed to be really effective.
01:31:22.000He had that done with a knee injury, and he was concerned, like, I think, I believe, I don't want to speak out of school, I'm pretty sure it was an MCL. It wasn't the big one.
01:31:35.000It wasn't the ACL. The ACL is the big one.
01:31:51.000Yeah, the first one I had done where they take a chunk of your patella tendon with a piece of your kneecap and a piece of your shin and they open you up like a trout and they fucking screw that baby in.
01:32:03.000I don't know if I've ever seen the front of your kneecap.
01:33:34.000Pigs are super similar, apparently, to people with certain organs to the point where they think that there might be a time where we use genetic engineering to manipulate a pig to grow human body parts.
01:34:16.000Enough similarity between pigs and humans that we might be able to grow their organs.
01:34:21.000Grow our organs, rather, inside of them.
01:34:24.000And so, like, if you needed a new liver or a kidney, or if you needed maybe even a heart, something, they could possibly grow it inside of this genetically altered pig, because they're really close to us.
01:34:45.000It's freaky shit because one of the things that I've gotten more and more adamant about from being around wild animals Is that that's really the only way animals should be.
01:34:59.000I mean, there's one thing like your dog, like Shades.
01:41:39.000is a big believer in this hex system and I don't know if it works but I know a lot of people think it works and there is a test that they use where there's a machine see if you can find they have a video of it explaining how it works and in the video it says it in there there's on the website there's video link see the video link yeah See where it says videos?
01:42:05.000There's something where they show they can swipe their arm over some sort of a machine that is designed to detect Electrical current that comes from your body and they do it with just a normal arm with like a shirt on and then they do it with this hex suit on and the hex suit it blocks whatever that frequency is and so the idea is that we're assuming that somehow or another the animals Might have some sort of method
01:42:36.000of detection by way of the actual electoral energy that's come from a person.
01:42:44.000It's fascinating to think of though, because I wonder How many different animals have this interesting sort of ability to detect things other than just smelling and seeing?
01:43:01.000And apparently these things are particularly effective with predators.
01:43:07.000Which kind of makes sense, I guess, that predators would feel the electrical frequency that's coming from a nervous, scared animal, or something that's trying to run from it.
01:43:19.000And these things are really effective, apparently, with coyotes.
01:43:23.000And this is this documentary, or this little short film, rather, Dancing with Dragons.
01:43:38.000So apparently this signal, whatever the human signal is, I mean, the fact that they can detect it in this machine, and I've watched that detection.
01:44:15.000The idea that that would be it, that they wouldn't have some other shit that we haven't really thought of, This would be a good guest for you.
01:44:24.000He's actually got some really cool stuff coming up that I'm not able to talk about, but I know you enough to know that it's in your wheelhouse.
01:46:01.000So all that stuff, there's been very good documentation on, you know, electromagnetic fields and what animals can see.
01:46:10.000But when it comes to, like, the hunting community, obviously there's not a lot of big funding behind it because it's a much smaller community.
01:46:18.000But things like this, things that are on Animal Planet or Discovery Channel, I mean, these are things that are at, I think, a higher level of, you know, maybe testing versus what we have in the hunting side.
01:46:33.000And I just know that me personally, as a hunter, I've experienced more, like, up-close interaction with With it, so I just find some of this stuff really cool.
01:46:43.000Is it possible that that's like a placebo effect?
01:46:45.000That you maybe just were in a really good spot with really good wind and you had a few experiences, so you put it together and you said this is what's happening?
01:47:00.000But this is why I brought it up, because I think it's possible, but I think people want one or the other, right?
01:47:05.000And I think it's also entirely possible, if there's a machine that can detect your electrical magnetic frequency or whatever the fuck that is, when they do it over that machine.
01:47:35.000I know when you did the podcast with James Hetfield, you guys talked about bees a lot.
01:47:41.000Do you know that bees, when they go to and from certain flowers, they actually leave an electromagnetic signal on that part so that actually other bees can see that and know that another bee had already been there to pollinate that area?
01:48:03.000I've got a video I can show you that actually shows that.
01:48:07.000Did I ever tell you about my experience with bees on Fear Factor?
01:48:20.000These bees that this guy had brought in who was a beekeeper.
01:48:23.000And then while we were doing a stunt on these people and they put the bees on these people, all of a sudden this local beehive emptied out and came to visit.
01:48:31.000And all the bees got together in the middle of the sky and talked.
01:48:35.000And we had to sit down for like a half an hour.
01:48:37.000The guy was like, you know, we're not going to do anything.
01:48:40.000We have to step back and let them work this out.
01:49:14.000They say that's They assume that's actually an electromagnetic dance that's done to where it gives a signal to the other bees to where they can actually know what they're communicating.
01:49:31.000Do they know how complicated the speech can be?
01:49:34.000Well, I mean, obviously if a bee is sitting in a hive in my bush out in my front yard and he knows to go three blocks down and two blocks over and get into those purple flowers that are in someone's front yard,
01:52:33.000You'll have to look it up, Jamie, but I think it's like Simpson Chemistry Club or something, but every week he posts different chem facts, like chemistry facts.
01:53:28.000They are on this constant state of innovation and progression that is really stunning to watch because we're almost like watching some cascade of complexity that is reaching some infinite point.
01:53:43.000The newest, latest HTC vibes, these virtual reality goggles that you put on, they're just letting you know, hey, this is the future.
01:53:54.000The future is Other realities in pill form.
01:53:57.000Other realities you're going to be able to put your hand on a building.
01:54:00.000It's going to send you into another dimension.
01:54:03.000I mean, these are really real things that are going to happen.
01:55:36.000Maybe it's like a real understanding of what real violence is would make you more respectful of real violence.
01:55:44.000So the more disconnected we are with real violence, the more almost this cartoonish expression of violence as being an alternative for being bored.
01:55:55.000Being an alternative for being, like, bullied or tortured.
01:55:58.000Like, instead of something to be avoided, it's like your last hurrah before you exit this life.
01:56:04.000Like, you've flipped over the board game.
01:56:06.000You've pulled the plug out on the video game.
01:56:08.000And this is what, like, extreme violence is.
01:56:11.000It seems to be more of that maybe even than anything.
01:56:17.000I mean, you know, my boy is, uh, he's going to school to be a vet.
01:56:25.000And he's been, you know, he's able to look at, luckily he works for a veterinary clinic in our town, and he's personally been there for surgeries and he's been there for several years, so he's seen a lot of things.
01:56:41.000But the doctors were originally telling them, you know, hey, if you feel a little bit sensitive to this or if you feel like you might pass out, let us know.
01:56:51.000But, you know, Harry has been with me through a big portion of, you know...
01:57:25.000So they were a little bit surprised by the fact that he understood all that, but I think because he's experienced that, he did understand it.
02:01:54.000We have to learn that we're in a global community.
02:01:56.000Like, we really have to figure it out.
02:01:58.000And we're closer and closer than we've ever been before, but along the way we're gonna get ridiculous shit.
02:02:03.000We're gonna get, like, people that are completely overreacting, and all men are sexist, and all men are rapists, and all sex with a penis and a vagina is rape!
02:02:12.000There's a lot of that going on right now, but those are the echoes of the farest reaches of the idea.
02:02:18.000And then that idea will pull back into the middle, and then the general consensus will be established.
02:03:18.000I said, I want to, if I'm on the train, because I knew I had about a four-hour train ride, I said, I want first class, you know, start to finish.
02:03:26.000And I don't want to sound like a prima donna, but I also knew that I was going to a third world country.
02:03:32.000So asking for first class doesn't necessarily mean first class here.
02:03:39.000So anyway, first class meant that my seats on my train had vinyl covering on there.
02:03:48.000So, I flew into my airport, got off the train, I was trying to blend in, had some old blue jeans on, gray shirt, literally stepped off, and it was like the DJ freaking scratched the record from like song 5 to song 1. It was like...
02:04:08.000And literally every single, like a sea of people that were two feet shorter than me just literally stopped.
02:05:27.000I remember at one point I looked back in...
02:05:32.000There was two dead bodies that had sheets over them.
02:05:35.000And then in the far back of the train, like where the trains connect, there was actually an Indian guy that was squatting down pretty much...
02:05:47.000Ripping his dong backwards so that he could take a leak in between the trains.
02:05:53.000He opened the door and he was squatting down, letting one rip between the trains.
02:06:00.000I was sitting there thinking, oh man, I've got 20 days left here.
02:06:09.000In saying that, once I got to where I was, they were probably the best students I've ever had because they were the most disciplined.
02:06:19.000Every one of those students wanted to get out of that lifestyle and they saw that being a national level shooter was going to get them out of that lifestyle.
02:06:31.000So every single thing I taught them, they took it to a level that was far beyond what most people here would ever, ever, ever do.
02:06:45.000Did you teach them how to do all that stuff?
02:06:47.000Dude, their peeps, some of the people on their national team, their peep sight, which is the small little circle that's in your bowstring that allows you to kind of...
02:06:58.000It's almost like, if you can imagine a rifle, you have a rear sight and a front sight, so the peep sight is in your string, it's a circle, and it's your rear sight, and then you align it with the front sight.
02:07:19.000So imagine someone like that and you're there giving them instruction and every single thing you tell them to do, they'll do it to the 10th degree because they want out.
02:07:32.000I mean, it was extreme motivation because I felt like everything that I was doing from a training point of view was inadequate to what they were doing.
02:07:41.000The only difference was they didn't have the education that we had.
02:07:48.000I remember I would actually have to go to an internet cafe and I'd have to pay for five minutes of internet, like dial up internet to call Sharon.
02:08:02.000So, I mean, you look at people that are like that, they want it at a level that's so far beyond what a lot of...
02:08:10.000I mean, we're just floating in the gravy over here.
02:09:22.000It's a giant problem with those people.
02:09:24.000Anybody that grows up in that scenario, where you are never really taught the value of accomplishing things, and that it's not just about securing your fate, it's also about Managing your consciousness and accomplishing things is good for you.
02:11:23.000I also feel like there's this part of me that feels...
02:11:31.000Like if I didn't, even though I don't have necessarily talent, the fact that I am willing to share it, I think it takes it to a different level because I don't know if I've ever shared this with you.
02:12:12.000Well, but before that, the reason I got into football is because my dad was such a great athlete that, you know, I played with matches and took it too far, ended up burning my house down.
02:12:37.000I remember being there when my family was sifting through ashes, literally, trying to find something to salvage from our history as a family.
02:12:49.000And my dad was such a stellar athlete that I felt like the only thing I could do to really make him proud of me at that point was become a good athlete.
02:13:00.000So I focused on becoming a good athlete.
02:13:12.000It was because I really felt like the only thing I could do to make my dad, who was a military guy, someone who had definitely earned his street creds, I felt like the only thing I could do was become this great athlete,
02:13:30.000which he was, in order to earn his respect and kind of did that in order to make up for the fact that You know, I had this one moment as an adolescent where I literally burned down every single thing our family ever had.
02:14:46.000I think ultimately, the difference between you making a mistake and burning the house down, which is horrific, or you dying, that's the big difference.
02:14:57.000Well, and that's what was great about my dad was the fact that once that moment happened, my mom and my dad have never, ever brought that up.
02:15:22.000Competitive as an athlete was because I wanted to make my dad proud from that aspect.
02:15:28.000And literally that competitive drive as a football player and track or whatever else, that fed the archery side.
02:15:39.000Because when I went to my archery tournament for the first time and I sucked at it, I was naturally competitive and really wanted to be better at it.
02:15:49.000That wasn't because of the fire, but that was just because of a principle that competitive sports put in me.
02:16:01.000It's crazy how all these little pieces...
02:16:22.000Kind of feeding in or buying into negativity at all.
02:16:26.000But there was some negativity that I heard from other shooters that are shooting now and shooting currently saying, you know, why is this guy...
02:17:07.000I feel like these people that feed on the negativity, they don't understand that all these little things that have happened are building blocks.
02:17:16.000And I want to use it as motivation to the people out there.
02:17:54.000And, you know, you can become inspiration for people by having that obstacle and then overcoming it.
02:18:03.000Yeah, well, I think that's the big point is that we all learn from each other.
02:18:05.000I mean, I've most certainly learned from you telling me about your struggles as well as I have from most of my friends that tell me about their struggles or things that I've read about or things that I've seen in documentaries.
02:18:16.000We learn from each other and you get a...
02:18:19.000I think we're all accumulating data as far as how the world works, what's the best way to behave, and what's the best way to live.
02:18:26.000And we're all in the middle of accumulating all this data.
02:18:29.000We're all taking it in from each other, and we've got to be open to it.
02:18:32.000You've got to be open to taking it from...
02:18:35.000Even, like, although it seems kind of corny sometimes, like, I will read some shit by The Rock, or I will watch a Kevin Hart Instagram video, and I get fucking fired up!
02:20:39.000But I was reading all the stuff about his high school coach saying that they would get there and he would be shooting baskets in the dark because they hadn't even turned the lights on yet.
02:20:49.000He'd be there an hour, two hours before everybody.
02:20:52.000That he would show up at these practices.
02:20:54.000Everybody would be at breakfast and he would show up with ice on his knees and he was fully sweated out.
02:21:00.000Like he'd just done three hours of working out before anybody did anything.
02:21:04.000There's people like that, man, and you can hate on them.
02:22:08.000There's times where I feel like practicing or a lot of times you'll probably get up in the morning and I've already built your bow and I built it at four or five in the morning because to people that are the exceptional among their field, they can't sleep if they know that they have to do something.
02:23:22.000I've actually been pretty stuck on this subject in the last few weeks.
02:23:30.000I hardly ever, ever, ever look at negativity.
02:23:35.000I mean, I really don't read it, don't look at it, but there was a really big archery tournament about a month ago, and there were some other pros that had made some comments about me just saying, you know,
02:24:26.000So you think there's a lot of people out there that are not realizing their full potential, so because of that they're critical of other people because maybe even they're looking at their own self and they feel like they're not maximizing their time?
02:26:23.000When you see someone complaining about someone else's success, Anytime you see that, anytime you see someone complaining about someone else's success and possibly equating it to some injustice in the world because they don't have equal success,
02:32:03.000When has an A-list actor ever considered opening up a meat shop and showed a photo on his Instagram of the honest procurement of meat in an honest way?
02:32:30.000There was 21 independent, legitimate scientists that found that if you ate 50 grams of processed meat per day, your chance of cancer was 18% higher.
02:33:26.000Ignorant for people to automatically make a post saying, you know, you're a killer just because you post a picture of, you know, free-range organic meat that you decide to choose to touch.
02:34:21.000Just, you know, I'm not singling them out.
02:34:24.000Anybody that has fast food, which I've eaten many times.
02:34:27.000If you want to live in a society of 20 million people, you're going to have to live in a place, most likely with this model, where you've got In-N-Out Burger.
02:34:55.000All of us are freaking out when other things get eaten, and we're all just going like, well, I just want to be the best version of me I can be.
02:35:17.000They just don't understand the merit of your choice.
02:35:20.000The merit of your choice is Just diametrically opposed to what they think should be and should not be a thing a person does.
02:35:28.000You shouldn't be a person that kills animals.
02:35:30.000But when you're engulfed in that world, when you're living in the woods, when you're going through these seven, eight, nine, ten day hunts, you get this understanding of what this world around these things really is.
02:35:43.000It's this crazy, beautiful, complex interaction between predator and prey.
02:35:48.000And it's been going on since life was here.
02:35:52.000And what you're doing as a hunter is just figuring out with your soft, bitch-ass skin and your fucking shaky knees, bad ankles, and you're weaseling yourself into a position where you can jump into the food chain with wolves around.
02:36:06.000That fucking conversation that we had about wolves, dude, that changed people's understanding of what a wolf is.
02:36:13.000On the first time you came on the podcast, you talked about how the wolves were trying to take your elk away from you.
02:38:18.000And then you look at whitetail in areas where maybe there's been, you know, I guess quote-unquote trophy hunters to where they've not really...
02:38:31.000I guess, regulated the population of whitetail deer to the point where they're trying to grow trophy hunting.
02:38:39.000So you mean they're trying to grow deer with large antlers?
02:38:42.000Yeah, larger antlers, so they're maybe shooting less numbers, and then all of a sudden, here comes this little thing called EHD, which kills every whitetail that goes to drink water.
02:38:58.000It's a midge that actually lives in the mud on the receding water line on a pond.
02:39:05.000So as a whitetail deer would go in to actually drink.
02:39:11.000This midge fly lives in the soil on the receding waterline and it would go into the nostril of the deer and then literally within 48 hours that deer is dead if it gets that virus.
02:41:29.000And actually, I met several cool dudes during that online play.
02:41:38.000Honestly, I felt like if I was a competitive archer and I would have been online prior to my competition, I feel like I almost could have helped some of my performance anxiety.
02:41:55.000When it comes to competition, because there's so many...
02:41:58.000You get so into beating the guy that you're going against that you can almost freak out and you don't do things according to a systematic method, which is really all a video game is.
02:43:29.000But there's something fun about getting together with a really good friend, just getting lit up, smoke a little weed, drink a little whiskey, and just have a good time.
02:45:24.000John Dudley, there's a goddamn archery video game where a guy's pulling back a bow and looking through a sight like you would like a real compound bow sight.
02:46:10.000Should you have some fine mesh that sort of cradles the arrow and the fletchings will pass through that fine mesh, possibly knocking down how many feet per second?
02:47:22.000Because one thing that was an ongoing thing when I was on the US team, there was this thing that went on about how long we could go at a tournament before we talked about this particular person.
02:47:38.000So during my time on the teams, we actually had a person that was, she claimed to have a medical disorder, or she didn't actually claim to have it, but supposedly it happens.
02:47:53.000But she claimed to have a disorder where she had attachment to items.
02:47:58.000This girl that was on my team actually ended up marrying the Eiffel Tower.
02:48:07.000Wait a minute, she had an attachment to things, meaning like a love interest in buildings?
02:48:12.000Yeah, she actually filed some claims against, supposedly filed some claims against a bow company that this bow company actually had a rubber laminate on the limbs of the bow.
02:48:29.000The woman with objects finished Mary's Eiffel Tower.
02:50:04.000In the middle of all this, there's a lot of people like me that have shot tens and tens and tens of thousands of arrows trying to win a medal for their country.
02:50:27.000She slept with her beau one night at an event and then got an infection from the silicone on the limbs and the rest of the team had to deal with this problem.
02:53:45.000In France, as long as violence, coercion, threat, or surprise is not proven, sexual intercourse with a minor, even one under 15, I will put a trypan right through that guy's face.
02:55:44.000We're better than we were a hundred years ago, better than we were two hundred years ago, but...
02:55:49.000In the past, it was like really commonplace.
02:55:52.000I mean, if you read anything about Socrates or anything about Plato, like that time of the world, like men having sex with children and little boys and stuff was like extremely common.
02:56:07.000Yeah, in parts of the world, men having sex with boys was extremely common for humans.
02:56:13.000Even in like what we would consider like classical, cultural, you know, intelligent civilizations like the ancient Romans, the ancient Greeks.
02:56:48.000In 2005, the Cour de Cassation, France's highest criminal court, stipulated that coercion is presumed for children at a very young age, in quotes.
02:57:01.000That's an outrageously blurry formulation that in practice has largely been applied to children under six.
02:57:09.000This leaves children above six years old, six, potentially considered not-raped When violence cannot be established, it also allows the state of paralyzed shock experienced by many victims And all the more so children to equal consent.
03:05:48.000That right there is why hunters are willing to argue with people that slam hunting and say that we're just killers.
03:05:59.000Because if you had to put 800 packs of your ribeye steak on your back and walk it five miles home, Would you feel more passionate about it?
03:06:30.000You either have to be the one who pulls the trigger, or you have to be there when it happens.
03:06:34.000You have to see what's the difference between a living animal and a dead animal.
03:06:37.000Because if you don't, then you're formulating your entire picture of the world based on information that you're only getting from a video, right?
03:06:46.000It's like when we're talking about the difference between watching porn and having sex.
03:08:41.000It's like when people are constantly going after other people and attacking in the most vicious way, Most likely it's because they're trying to divert attention from how they are or that it could come back at them, you know?
03:08:55.000There's like a weird dance that people do with liking and disliking other people.
03:09:02.000I've been studying this for the longest time, and I still don't understand it totally.
03:09:06.000I have my vague assessments of how it all is sort of falling into place, but I don't know totally how it's working.
03:09:14.000But I know that the people that are the most pleasant to be around are the people that are the most friendly, the most understanding, the most objective, and the most just...
03:09:50.000I feel like people that haven't experienced hardship don't appreciate the good times as much.
03:09:58.000And I feel like, for me anyway, the fact that I've experienced times where I've really struggled and I've had to Either up my game or decide to quit.
03:10:11.000Either you step up and you work hard enough to where you achieve it, and then at that point you really, really appreciate it.
03:10:21.000Which is something that I experienced when you talked to me about kettlebells.
03:10:27.000Okay, well, I'm not good at this, so either I'm not going to be able to relate to Joe or I'm going to learn to do it right.
03:10:32.000And I ended up going down to Austin because I wanted to experience it a little bit more to where I can appreciate, okay, if Joe's doing a windmill with a frickin' Bigfoot...
03:10:49.000It looks easy when I watch the YouTube video, but then when I grab a freaking chimp and do it, and I'm struggling to do it without having my shoulder hit me in the side of the face, and then I'm thinking, okay, Joe's doing this now with a Bigfoot.
03:12:46.000Well, I'm going to show you some of the shit that I do out here.
03:12:48.000We'll do a little working out out here, but one of the things that I've really gotten into is there's like a circuit of a glute hand machine that does your lower back, and then I do these elevated sit-ups, and then I do...
03:13:37.000I do all those shield casts with those clubs.
03:13:40.000There's something about when you do that, when you're controlling like a 25-pound club, it doesn't seem like a lot of weight, but if you could slowly control that, when you get a bow in your hand and you're trying to level that bow, it's like you have more control over your body.
03:13:53.000You have better understanding of, you know, all the various speeds that your muscles can move at, where you can just slow it down, slow it down, there it is, there it is, there it is.
03:14:03.000And I feel like the more you strengthen those muscles, particularly like stabilizing muscles of the shoulders with like reverse kettlebells, you know, upside down kettlebells where the bottom's up.
03:16:29.000It was about $22,000 and then we had one person that offered to match the other two so it ended up getting to be $30,000 that we raised.
03:16:41.000Went down to Houston and then Crispy who was doing a lot of We're good to go.
03:17:16.000Crispy and Archery Country filled a full trailer full of supplies, and Sharon and I flew down to Houston.
03:17:25.000First we flew to Austin, then we drove to Houston and went down to a church where we ended up feeding a lot of people and then delivering all these supplies that we raised with the money that we got from auctioning off this bow.
03:17:41.000Which I know what it's like to lose everything, so I was pretty adamant about it.
03:20:45.000The way I describe it on stage, I always say, this is like if you were in the middle of a full-on cocaine binge, and someone came up to you and said, dude, I want you to make me the ultimate gas station.
03:21:00.000It's a gas station with hundreds of pumps like you can't believe how many pumps there are it doesn't make any sense It's like a goddamn field of pumps.
03:21:09.000It doesn't make any sense and then you go into this building It is a fucking warehouse filled with pickled alligator dick You're like, what the fuck is this?
03:23:30.000And then later, I took a picture of me and Tate, Tate again.
03:23:34.000There was an award show that they did for an old-school karate master, and Chuck Norris was there and a bunch of other old-school American black belt karate guys, and they were telling these awesome old-school karate stories, and they asked me to be there and speak a little bit.
03:23:52.000I mean, I'd do anything for Chuck Norris.
03:30:26.000And they're like, what have you assholes done?
03:30:29.000You fucking Leonard Skinner-loving, muscle-car-driving dipshits keeping pythons in a fucking terrarium in your bedroom with Motley Crue posters on the wall and you do acid and decide to let that thing go in your yard.
03:30:45.000Now they're eating deer that are 111 pounds.
03:31:04.000He's holding on to the mouth and the head, controlling the body, and inside of it is this enormous lump that is apparently a deer that's bigger than its whole body, in terms of its body weight.
03:31:14.000Do you ever see the one where one died because it was trying to eat an alligator?
03:31:54.000It literally swallowed up this fucking whole alligator face first, and the alligator backed its way out of its asshole, and they both died in the Everglades.
03:32:05.000But this fucking snake is so big, it's trying to eat an alligator that's bigger than Yeah, it doesn't care.
03:32:13.000These crazy fucks have let these things loose in the United States of America.
03:33:43.000He pretty much talked about the fact that he's so sick of people complaining about how fat they get because he said, literally, it's simple math, people.
03:35:09.000It's not really a lot, but the benefits of it, like how you feel when you finally have your first meal, when you cross over the line, like you feel better and your body works better and you have more energy.
03:36:49.000If you're conscious about it, I think you have a better understanding of what it actually does to you.
03:36:56.000That's the problem with people that are in the lifestyle of doing it every single day is they don't really realize what it's doing to them.
03:37:02.000I think there's that, but I think there's also obviously a tolerance that you develop.
03:37:06.000Just like people develop a tolerance for alcohol, people develop a tolerance for weed, people definitely, I think, develop a tolerance for sugar.
03:37:13.000And when I don't have it, then I feel the full brunt of sugar.
03:37:16.000I remember I took my family to get cheeseburgers and milkshakes, and I had a big-ass fucking vanilla milkshake.
03:37:29.000I was drinking this big-ass, like, 20-ounce vanilla milkshake, and I was eating this cheeseburger, and I hit the wall so hard after it was over, I had to sit down.
03:37:39.000Like, I'm like, what kind of bitch am I that I'm...
03:37:59.000It was like one of those, you know those Sunday drink things they give you where it's a big ass fucking glass filled with ice cream, milkshake?
03:38:08.000Today I was in the airport in Des Moines, and I got a coffee.