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00:04:33.000Yeah, and you put it in warm water, and you get it to a temperature of a body.
00:04:45.000Somehow or another there's like a portal like this tube is a portal to another woman another dimension, but all you can get out is her vagina Just hold that's it feels real the name of this dimension is called awesome Do you jerk off with a fleshlight or do you hold it and fuck it?
00:05:00.000No, you jerk off Jay you jerked me off with a fleshlight.
00:05:03.000Yeah, but that was for sure That was on camera.
00:05:24.000It was a documentary on Netflix about people fucking...
00:05:26.000Sex robots really have come far because there are people who fall in love with these sex robots and it looks like the fucking taxi driver, Johnny on the Spot from Total Recall.
00:05:36.000It's like this crazy, like, animatronic Chuck E. Cheese bass player.
00:05:40.000Well, it's gonna get to a point where it can totally mimic you.
00:05:43.000I mean, it's gonna get to a point where it really is like Blade Runner.
00:13:52.000You get to do what you want to do every single day, play with the toys you want to play with, hang out with the people you want to play with.
00:13:57.000And I think everyone thinks, like, when you don't have money, you think when you get money, yeah, that's what I'll be like.
00:14:02.000But then I've watched so many people who do get money, and then they're like, yeah, but gotta have retirement money, gotta make sure I have this, gotta make sure I do that.
00:14:33.000He's looking around at all these other people with their cell phones, looking at himself, and he's like, oh, that thing's just stealing your time, and you're addicted to it.
00:15:13.000I would have my cell phone out at a comedy club looking at it, and Ari would literally come and take his hand and put it over the phone and be like, dude, what are you doing?
00:15:22.000It made me self-conscious around other people doing it, and now every time I see people doing it, I sort of judge them now, and it really is true.
00:15:31.000I mean, people live in their cell phone every single day, and you lose the connection.
00:15:34.000It sends a message like, fuck you, dude.
00:15:36.000This person over here is more important than the person that's sitting right in front of me.
00:16:26.000And you're watching YouTube videos like, look at all that shit moving around on my phone.
00:16:30.000Also, like the kill time of it too, where, as my chick pointed out the other day, if we ever sit down at a restaurant, like don't take food to go and sit down, how quickly I pull out, like, alright, we're playing Family Feud!
00:16:43.000So it's not even just pulling back into my phone, but it's still part of the, let's do something!
00:17:28.000So now I feel like you have that option to be on your phone at all times, distract yourself.
00:17:31.000I used to take a shit and, you know, I used to have a bathroom reader.
00:17:34.000It was my favorite thing in the world.
00:17:35.000It was little facts, like thousands of them in this fat book that you just, it was covered in shit stands everywhere.
00:17:40.000But it was a fucking book you had in the bathroom and it was called Uncle John's Bathroom Reader and it was just basically Snapple facts about everything in the world and they had like 20 editions and it was the coolest thing in the world but now you have your cell phone so you don't need it.
00:17:54.000Right, but how do you, there's like certain shit you want to know that's going on in the world.
00:18:48.000They're not actually going and reading a real newspaper or reading legitimate.
00:18:53.000What pisses me off about politics, I feel like it's the only thing where like if you don't like so if you don't know if Lewis doesn't watch basketball at all and Jay watches every single Sixers game and then there's like a thing coming up where you like something about a basketball game Lewis won't just like start arguing with you like nah nah nah they need to play this defense they need to go into a zone because you're like yeah I just I don't really know about that but for some reason with politics No matter how much anybody's not read anything,
00:19:18.000they don't know anything, they have no problem just having a hardcore, strong opinion.
00:19:23.000It's because also you know about it, right?
00:19:26.000So when someone's like super argumentative about it, like, oh, you're not even well informed.
00:21:44.000And there was a kid, I mean, the kid must have had autism or something, or some extreme case of it, but he was like, you know, he was having some sort of violent episode, I'm assuming, but it was just a dad, like, calm as day, just sitting on a corner with his kid, with the kid face down, as the kid's, like, screaming and shaking and kicking his arms and legs,
00:22:00.000and then I was just holding the kid down, and it was so hard to, like, I almost wanted to say something, like, I didn't know, I... They don't ever really tell you what's going on in that situation.
00:22:11.000I kind of watched it for a minute because it looked like he was abusing the kid for a second, but then you kind of realize after, oh, this kid was going to hurt himself or whatever it was, but that's a really, really hard thing.
00:22:22.000Yeah, I can accept more in the real extreme cases where kids have severe, severe problems, but it seems like they're just happy to anyone's hyperactive, just this kind of loose thing.
00:23:00.000It's just, if people don't get enough attention or they don't have an outlet and they don't know what to do with themselves, they get wacky.
00:23:07.000It doesn't mean you need to give them drugs.
00:23:10.000Some of these people have legitimate issues and they probably do need medication.
00:23:14.000And some of these people just need to find something that's interesting in life.
00:23:18.000Yeah, well I think on what you were saying before about why don't these kids look into that stuff, I think a lot of times it's just like, people want the simple thing, and this is a really difficult question to get into this stuff, whereas if you're just like, oh, I'm against guns, that's easy.
00:23:30.000I think it's the same thing as when people are just offended.
00:23:33.000It's like you don't really have to read a lot, you don't have to know a lot.
00:23:36.000It's just easy to be right, and you've got the answer.
00:23:46.000And it's the same thing with being a parent.
00:23:47.000A lot of parents are really lazy, and you watch it happen when they give their kid an iPad or, you know, put them in front of the computer.
00:23:54.000That whole thing just happened with Elsagate, which was, you know, borderline hilarious, that parents were getting trolled into their kids watching really fucked up cartoons and shit.
00:24:03.000Yeah, Elsagate, I forgot the name of it.
00:24:31.000It was a punishment for shitty parents who weren't watching their kids and what they're putting on their TV. Because if you were just paying attention for a minute...
00:24:38.000I'm saying right now, you have to stop paying attention for a couple hours for a kid to get there.
00:24:43.000So it was only really shitty parents that were dealing with that.
00:25:09.000Yeah, there's Spiderman ones, and I think they took some of them down.
00:25:14.000But then it gets to this place where you're like, okay, are you taking it down because it's targeting children?
00:25:19.000Or are you taking it down because you can't show cartoon babies getting hit in the head with bottles?
00:25:25.000Because if that's what you're saying, boy, there's a lot of fucking South Parks that you're not going to be able to show.
00:25:31.000There's a lot of different things you're not going to be able to show.
00:25:33.000So, yeah, is the line because you think this is, like, creepy?
00:25:37.000And it's luring kids in, versus just the act, if it was a funny, you know, Tim and Eric sketch, and a cartoon baby got hit in the head with a bottle, you'd be like, what the fuck?
00:28:16.000There was like mommy bloggers and they would like have a video of them and their daughter going to like the supermarket and there'd be like 500 views.
00:28:54.000It was, this is just like a whole subculture that was happening on YouTube that was sort of just nobody was really talking about it and they kind of made it go away.
00:29:56.000If you make a big complaint, though, about something you have to draw a conclusion to, it really makes it seem like you're the person thinking that.
00:32:08.000I think in our lifetime, there's gonna be words that are banned that you're not gonna be able to say in public spaces, like parks and shit like that.
00:32:16.000I've got to ask Jamie to Google something.
00:32:19.000What was that story recently where they were talking about child brides somewhere in some country where they were trying to allow people to be married as young as 11. And that up until recently they could do that.
00:32:32.000They could be married as young as 11. Pennsylvania.
00:33:43.000Well, in Missouri's defense, that's the only time they've ever been referred to as a popular destination, so they're doing what they can to attract tourists.
00:34:43.000I don't know how to Google this, because I think that is one of those states, I want to say it's New Mexico, but it might not have been, where the mail could be 13. Man, Jamie's computer is just going to have the most fucked up search history after this.
00:35:15.000The dogma of there's no difference between the sexes or shit like that is ridiculous.
00:35:20.000I definitely don't think, I'm not saying it's cool, but when you hear about some hot chick teacher who is fucking her teenage students, I definitely don't look at that the same way that I look at some dude who's fucking is teenage.
00:35:32.000That's just a more fucked up The only thing that I look at it as, like, she's a little bit more fucked up because I don't ever talk to women that are like, oh, young dude, that's what I'm into.
00:35:41.000And you talk to every dude behind the scenes like, oh yeah, 19-year-old chick, that'll be hot, you know?
00:35:46.000She's definitely fucked up, but those women play very important roles in taking a young man's hand and leading them down the road of sexuality.
00:35:55.000It's not, like, I got molested by a 21-year-old when I was 13. She was hot and it was great.
00:36:36.000She was a fun person like she was fun to be around we all we all liked her but she fucked everybody yeah, so I just No, I didn't I didn't know she just just grabbed my dick like I said I couldn't even get it up I panicked but I didn't I mean they didn't even know what getting it up was like I think she was the first person ever kissed You didn't come back around to her,
00:36:57.000though, later to see where you stacked up in the hood?
00:38:23.000Without this need for coming, then you'd like them based on their merits, their friendship, their personality.
00:38:34.000I realized that literally when I was like 16 years old.
00:38:37.000If I just jerked off, what I was willing to tolerate was so much less.
00:38:42.000Well, dude, we were talking about the sex robots before, and if we kind of got off on it, if pedophiles should be able to fuck them, and you kind of think about that, dude.
00:38:49.000They have that built-up pedophile full balls walking around, dude, just seeing kids at the park.
00:39:29.000Or if you can give him like a weird video game like your hunting video game and he can just blow up a building with a suitcase once in a while.
00:39:35.000But here's the thing, like if he doesn't do anything, he's not a criminal.
00:39:39.000Like if he has this thing and he fights this demon every day and he successfully slays it every day, who are we to come in and say, you shouldn't have these thoughts?
00:39:47.000No, if anything, I look at that as probably it's somebody who was like abused as a child, has had a horrible life and isn't harming anybody else.
00:40:36.000Sucking the life out of your family unless some guy fucks your kids.
00:40:39.000Just being violent in general, I think, is like that.
00:40:41.000I think most people who are, like, not violent in, like, the criminal sense, not in, like, you know, being, like, in martial arts or something like that, but, like, people who, like, you know, assault and kill and fucking shit like that, it's, like, I think 99% of the time they were fucking beaten as a child.
00:40:58.000The bully always has a dad who kicks his ass type thing.
00:41:01.000But those guys can go play a video game where they shoot people in the fucking head and they get off on that and pedophiles don't have that same type of outlet that those guys have.
00:47:32.000Yeah, whenever some reason a documentary comes out about an old thing that I've heard a thousand things about, I'll still watch them again.
00:47:39.000I got way deep into Charles Manson again.
00:47:41.000But I was going to say, Charles Manson was, people have bought those houses for sure.
00:49:15.000He goes, I'm not going to move that fucking thing.
00:49:17.000He goes, we're going to find out if this is bullshit.
00:49:19.000And we sat around for like an hour and 45 minutes with this fucking stupid Ouija board, asking it questions.
00:49:29.000At the end of it, my friend Jimmy, he folds everything up, stuffs it in a garbage bag, goes, I'm taking this piece of shit out to the trash right now.
00:51:13.000They're both equally probably, you know, like, bullshit.
00:51:17.000But one is directly targeting and fucking with somebody.
00:51:20.000And religion's also probably killed millions and millions and millions of people, and these people are just fucking duping a few idiots out of their money.
00:51:26.000They're duping a lot of idiots, but those idiots deserve to be duped.
00:51:29.000I mean, look, wounded antelopes should not go to the waterhole.
00:52:53.000Some of those guys are fucking incredible.
00:52:56.000When I did that show, Joe Rogan Questions Everything, we did an episode on psychics, and we got this guy named Banachek, and he's a Vegas magician.
00:53:21.000And if you take a cheap enough spoon and you literally just...
00:53:25.000You could bend it a few times and it'll just look straight.
00:53:28.000That's one of the tricks where you'll just use your finger and you make it melt But this is a very specific kind of metal that you can do this to.
00:53:35.000It's like, you know how aluminum is like super weak?
00:54:27.000No, I'm just saying, can you imagine, like, pre-science, how much people got freaked out by people who, like, knew magic or knew, like, some type of sleight of hand like that, when you can't fucking Google.
00:54:35.000You can't Google that, oh, there's a different type of metal that you can burn, and they're just like, he is communicating with the gods!
00:54:51.000I talked to Penn Jillette about that once, and he was explaining to me how when someone talks to you, they get you to give them the answer, and then they say the answer, and it makes them look like a wizard.
00:55:01.000But they've gone through these patterns so many times.
00:55:04.000I mean, how many people have problems with their dad?
00:55:06.000How many people have a brother that died?
00:55:35.000If she was a psychic, she'd tell you about some shit that hasn't happened.
00:55:39.000She's telling you about some shit you already know because you're a dumbass and you're playing checkers with a lady who's playing chess on you.
00:55:45.000My friend who I stay with when I'm out here has a very good friend who's a psychic medium.
00:55:51.000He's a very nice guy, but she really wants to believe in him so much.
00:55:56.000The way he does it is an entertaining thing.
00:56:00.000And she's like, you don't believe it at all?
00:56:03.000If you have fucking powers, and then also, like, you know, you go to Target because you need shampoo.
00:56:10.000I don't know, it seems like it would be a burden to live with, the gift of magic powers.
00:56:14.000And then you're just like, oh yeah, I'll swing by McDonald's, I'm a little hungry for a snack.
00:56:20.000It all stems from us walking around going, wouldn't it be much easier if I knew exactly what was going to happen, I knew who these people, who's good and who's bad.
00:57:03.000And the one thing about suckers is, if they're good, if you have a good connection with that sucker, that sucker wants to come back next week.
00:57:17.000And then this fucking dork, he's all excited about Thursday.
00:57:19.000On Thursday, the madam is going to tell me exactly what's going to happen in the future of my company.
00:57:24.000And this fucking dude should have gotten taken out by a hyena.
00:57:27.000A hyena should have clipped his ankles, dragged him into the bushes, and they all would have jumped out of nowhere and mauled this fucking asshole because he didn't listen to anybody.
00:57:35.000We need to have him because he survived in this nerfed up world.
00:57:39.000Yes, nature had an answer for this guy, but then the one smart guy who was supposed to survive invented some shit and then told everyone else about it.
00:57:45.000And now these idiots have that invention.
00:57:47.000I remember like an old bit of yours where you touched on this.
00:57:50.000I really fucking love that joke where you're like, when you realize there's no such thing as adults.
01:01:23.000You want to launch cars through the air?
01:01:24.000The stuff that they do is fucking insane.
01:01:26.000I mean, I don't know how much of it's CGI and how much of it they're really doing with cars, but as a person who loves muscle cars, it hurts my heart watching those cars get fucking launched through the air.
01:02:30.000So there's like a scene where the dog is fighting off a bear, and this bear...
01:02:35.000I mean, they must have just went through 30 pugs with this bear scene alone, but there's no confirmed numbers of deaths, but there was like a bunch of kittens.
01:02:43.000When you watch the movie, you're like, oh man, how did they get that dog to fight with that bear?
01:02:47.000And it's like, well, we lost like 300 dogs that day.
01:03:52.000All the other animals, I love them in the wild.
01:03:55.000I just love them and their environment.
01:03:57.000Look, it is a weird thing that we've gotten totally accustomed to, that you could just get out of this studio right now, you could drive 15, 20 minutes over Topanga Canyon, get out of your car, walk 300 yards into the woods, and you're just living with animals eating animals.
01:04:13.000You are basically in another dimension.
01:04:15.000There's eagles, and there's not too many eagles, but a lot of hawks that fly around.
01:04:20.000They're just constantly looking for some shit to jack.
01:04:22.000And if you're there at the right time, you can see it happen.
01:04:24.000You can see a coyote snatch a rabbit or, you know, different animals just constantly looking for something else to eat.
01:08:19.000You've got to say nature bears for me.
01:08:20.000Don't try to get me in trouble with Dan Henderson.
01:08:22.000I imagine it's more like Brock, because I remember when Frank Mir described Brock on top of him, it was like a car that was slowly moving onto him, and he couldn't push it off.
01:08:31.000Imagine a bear is on you, and you're just sitting there like, dude, it's got my shoulder blade, and it's just gnawing at my shoulder blade, and I know I'm going to die.
01:08:45.000You would feel it, it would hurt, but you would be so terrified of death, and you'd be so overwhelmed with all these fucking neurochemicals to be flying through your synapses.
01:15:18.000They've seen ones way bigger than the ones I've seen.
01:15:21.000Well, what about people that say this?
01:15:23.000It's always like the PETA people that are like, well, yeah, if you think you're a real man, how about this?
01:15:26.000We'll give you a knife, and you go out there, and then you try to hunt a bear.
01:15:29.000I always feel like even if you have a gun, it's gonna not be that easy to just go and fucking kill a bear.
01:15:34.000But you know why all these people say that shit?
01:15:36.000It's because they don't understand what a bear really is.
01:15:39.000In their head, they feel like a bear is like some mystical creature who lives in the forest who should be left alone.
01:15:46.000The problem is you can't just leave them alone because they're so powerful and they're so hungry and they eat so much that if there's nothing that keeps them in check...
01:15:59.000They're going to just run rampant and destroy all the deer and the moose and all those other things you like to look at as well.
01:16:16.000It's very tricky, and humans are supposed to play a part in this.
01:16:22.000We don't like to think we play a part in it because we can communicate, we discuss things, and we rationalize, we have culture, and those things are all correct.
01:16:31.000We've always kept predators in check because when they start killing us, that means, oh, we have to do something now and then we kill them.
01:16:39.000That's always been the case with villages and jaguars and people who live in towns and wolves.
01:17:12.000And then after thousands of years of this struggle where we fucking got the upper hand and started dominating it, now it's easy to sit in a city and be like, you know, you read your kids these books about nature and it's like the frog made friends with the squirrel and everything's just nice in nature.
01:17:41.000You know what I think the answer is, man?
01:17:42.000I think the answer comes in the middle.
01:17:45.000That people have to realize, like, the real problem on the side of people that eat meat and people that think PETA people are ridiculous is factory farming.
01:19:02.000When you look at all these objective scientific studies that talk about nutrients in plants versus nutrients in animal products, it leans very heavily towards a diet that's rich in both of those things.
01:19:14.000There's almost no people in the world that are fat that eat meat, vegetables, and fruit exclusively.
01:19:43.000And then it's also like there's some weird shit that happens to you when they go on those fucking vegan soy diets.
01:19:47.000Like Jamie Kilstein started eating meat again and he's fucking making sense again finally.
01:19:51.000Well, he also tasted the wrath of his improper inclinations.
01:19:57.000Improper meaning he wasn't being honest.
01:19:59.000He went along with his ideology because he was terrified of the repercussions of being against the stream.
01:20:06.000And, you know, he saw, like, I've talked about Jamie a hundred times on this podcast now, after we did a podcast together, because he's a way more normal person now.
01:20:19.000Like, when he was in that world, he was frantic, checking his Twitter constantly, like, constantly arguing with people, calling people out on being a bigot or a racist.
01:20:40.000I literally stopped using Facebook like six months ago.
01:20:43.000I just deleted it because it was a lot of that.
01:20:45.000I don't really publicly battle as much on Twitter with dummies, but on Facebook I was really getting into it with people for stupid shit.
01:20:51.000And I was just like, now that I don't do that at all, just that weird, nasty, whatever vile feeling that that gives you that you live in and you get addicted to, you want to go back to it, it just feels so much better.
01:21:03.000And Jamie was definitely a victim of that.
01:21:05.000But now you talk to him, because I had lunch with him before he even came back.
01:21:09.000We had lunch in L.A. He almost seemed broken, dude.
01:21:13.000He definitely seemed like he was beaten down and had been through some real fucking shit.
01:21:39.000You've already through so many layers of things to actually be angry about, and then some other things you shouldn't be angry about to get to comedy.
01:21:45.000They're almost always not successful or not as successful as they think they should be.
01:22:01.000It's the people that aren't doing well.
01:22:03.000And I think, and just kind of on a similar note, I think no one who's been through real shit in their life gives a fuck about microaggressions.
01:22:10.000Like it's literally like a privileged thing and you don't have anything going on.
01:22:15.000That you actually are taking this as like a major issue.
01:22:19.000It's evidence that you're in competition with that person, and unnecessarily so, and that you are deeming them to be unworthy of their success, so you're getting angry, and you're lashing out.
01:22:29.000And it's entirely because you feel like it's a race, and you're so far behind the race, you're like, fuck that guy, fucking Kevin Hart, or whatever it is.
01:22:36.000It's like whoever the fuck the person is that's way ahead of you, instead of just looking at it for what it is.
01:22:53.000But if you're a guy coming up, it's easy.
01:22:56.000I mean, how many times when you were around guys who were just starting out, would they talk crazy shit on some headliner they worked with?
01:23:14.000Keith Robinson, I mean Keith Robinson, I called him to shit talk another comic or say that I, a guy, some booker had called and said he liked me on the show and he kept talking about me and another comic that he liked.
01:23:26.000This guy doesn't even do comedy anymore.
01:24:10.000You get caught up in what you think is a competition between you and all the other people that are trying to make it.
01:24:18.000Where you're not miserably broke all the time, or you're in some, at least, path or lane of where you want to go, it does change your appreciation for comedy.
01:24:42.000I watch you laughing at Guitar X, where I think when we all came up in New York, there's a thing like, fuck Guitar X with your dumb fucking hacky shit.
01:24:49.000And I'm watching you the other way, watching Regan and...
01:24:53.000And just laughing your dick off, because you let go after a little while ago, and it's not about your ego, it's about what's going to tickle you.
01:25:13.000If you do something silly or even pull out a guitar for whatever reason on stage, I think there's not even a chance of like, maybe, wait, this might be like a unique guitar.
01:25:22.000If you move around on stage, people...
01:25:24.000I watched Sebastian Maniscalco in Vegas, and dude, I watched, in that hour, I don't know Sebastian at all, but watching him for that hour, this is like a year ago, was the most I'd learned in comedy in a really, really long time.
01:25:36.000He's so physical, and what he does with his body and his eyes, he's making eye contact with almost everybody in the audience, and I was like, holy shit, dude, and he's got to really use that space, and I feel like in New York, if anybody was that physical, people would be like, what's this guy fucking doing?
01:25:49.000You know, Colin Quinn was saying this at Just for Laughs in 2013. He gave the, like, keynote address.
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01:27:52.000It is boring, but it's not boring if you're fucking dying of thirst.
01:27:56.000You gotta think, if you were in a desert, and you're just like barely hanging on, your lips are cracked and bleeding, your skin is sore, with sun blisters all over it, and just wandering, and you just see a fucking, one of those, Fiji waters in a bucket of ice.
01:32:12.000If you touch things and you touch your face, you're literally taking life forms into your body that want to go to war with your immune system.
01:32:17.000Somewhere deep there when you're getting a rash, there's just some dude arguing with his chick.
01:33:50.000Your doctor's got to go to Michael Douglas and be like, listen.
01:33:53.000He says no because without warning, wanting to get too specific, this particular cancer is caused by HPV, which actually comes from cunnilingus.
01:34:06.000He said, don't worry if stress caused by my son's incarceration didn't help trigger it, but yeah, it's a sexually transmitted disease that causes cancer.
01:34:18.000I'm telling you, dude, you're not supposed to put our dicks and our pussies in each other's mouths.
01:34:33.000Do you think we have, like, a cancer doctor who has to talk to you like he's smoking cigarettes and be like, Lewis, if you're going to keep eating pussy, I can't see you anymore.
01:34:39.000That's probably exactly what it's going to be one day.
01:34:41.000I just pet-kissed their clit the whole time.
01:35:12.000I mean, this is the problem with this whole anti-vax movement.
01:35:15.000They don't understand the nuanced details of what it means to take an entire population of 300 million people and try to figure out a vaccine that's going to protect them from disease.
01:35:41.000And you have to be willing to accept a certain amount of outliers, unfortunately, if you want to protect people from polio and all these different fucking crazy diseases that they've really got a good grip on.
01:38:08.000You're not getting less or more HIV. They did a study in Africa where they took a few hundred people in a fucking straight up place in Africa where it was like one out of every four people had AIDS. And they proved that circumcising them was stopping the transmission of AIDS because there's not as many breaks in the foreskin,
01:38:24.000so it's not as easy to transmit the disease.
01:38:27.000But we were talking about a third world country where they're not cleaning their bodies.
01:38:30.000We don't live in that same type of poverty or fucked up disease.
01:38:34.000Yeah, if you look at any of the justifications for circumcision, they're all super weak.
01:38:40.000You know, they'll say these things where it's like, well, you can't get cancer in your foreskin or something like that, and you're like, yeah, and if you just lopped off chicks' breasts, they can't get breast cancer, but we're still not gonna just preemptively be like, let's just fucking start castrating people.
01:39:42.000But I still don't know if I'd take it back.
01:39:43.000I don't know if I can go back now and just say, alright, would I just take my, if a genie came out, the gayest genie on earth came out and said, You have one wish, and it's just about your foreskin.
01:39:52.000But they're pretty specific wishes, bitch.
01:41:03.000When it happens, they fuck up their dicks to circumcision, they get the infection, and then they say, alright, well now you can have a baby with no dick and have it be a boy, or we can sexually reassign it to be a girl.
01:41:13.000And kids find out years later that they were born a boy, and that's why that happened.
01:43:09.000Oh my god, there's a video of this dude just standing there, standing there, balls-ass naked, and the guy comes over, grabs his dick, grabs with one swipe of the blade, takes off the foreskin, pulls on his dick, and slices away, and yanks it off, and the guy stands there, completely stone-faced,
01:43:25.000doesn't react, and that's like part of the ritual.
01:43:27.000Dana White walks in, so you want to be an ultimate fighter.
01:44:35.000Because babies were getting herpes and dying from herpes, from rabbis sucking their dick after they performed this circumcision.
01:44:41.000And apparently, in some versions of Judaism, it's a part of the ritual.
01:44:46.000And this guy was explaining it, like in Yiddish, and he was explaining all the different things that, what's important, that the rabbi or the, who have the moel, performs this, I think he said it like tetitzi.
01:45:08.000Only in religion would you be able to have a YouTube video where you're dressed like a wizard talking about sucking baby dicks that you just cut.
01:45:15.000And, well, this is a part of our tradition.
01:47:07.000But these, how many baby dicks in a lifetime, in a strong career, a 35-year career, working for this synagogue, how many baby dicks have you sucked?
01:50:55.000I hope we don't theme our months like fucking frat parties.
01:50:58.000That's true, too But I just think like what point in time we're gonna not care I mean what if you if there's a way like let's just imagine is it even humanly possible to Engineer the education of human beings to the point where there's no more racism doesn't exist anymore no more sexism no more homophobia I mean naturally we were tribes and we gravitate toward people that look like us and we're comfortable with I remember in kindergarten,
01:51:24.000this is 1987, we were allowed to just choose our tables.
01:51:28.000They didn't make you assign seats or whatever, and I remember all the white kids just sat with the white kids, and the black kids sat with the black kids, and the Hispanic kids sat with the Hispanic kids, and I'm half white, and I was raised by white people, and you see little Puerto Rican me just plopped in the middle of this white table, and all these little kids are probably like,
01:51:57.000I think individuals can, but the idea that in terms of large demographic groups, there won't be any in-group preference, and there won't be any...
01:52:04.000Maybe, I'm not like closed off to it, but it seems like a real tough goal.
01:52:08.000I agree with you 100%, but I'm more leaning towards that now than ever before because of the internet.
01:52:13.000Because I think people are accelerating.
01:52:15.000They're accelerating in what they understand about what's going on in the world.
01:53:31.000Yeah, well, I remember thinking about this when the thing with Chick-fil-A, which, by the way, is delicious.
01:53:37.000But when they were, like, against gay marriage and people were, like, boycotting Chick-fil-A, and you're just kind of like, well, what is the precedent that you're setting here?
01:53:48.000Like, if I pull up to a gas station and I go to, like, get, like, a snack, do I have to go, like, so where do you stand on the Iraq war...
01:53:55.000Isn't the point that we all can kind of get along even if we have wildly different views?
01:53:59.000It's called Chick-fil-A, not Dude-fil-A, queer!
01:54:03.000Yeah, but we would like to spend our money wisely.
01:54:06.000That's the idea that people are voting with their dollars, right?
01:54:08.000I get that, but it's almost like now we can have all that knowledge, and I get your point, but it can work toward us being inclusive, or it can work toward us being like, Well, no, I'm not gonna fuck with anybody who doesn't meet XYZ beliefs.
01:54:26.000There's something beautiful about the market where I'm a Jew, but I can get a cab in New York from a Muslim, and I'm just like, oh, I'm going up here, and then he drops me off, and he's like, have a good night, God bless, and I'm like, thank you, and we give each other money, and we're all happy, and it doesn't matter that we have...
01:54:42.000That place is such a melting pot, though.
01:54:46.000It's so different than L.A. L.A., everybody's in their own car.
01:54:58.000at 34th Street, you have a million people in one small area where it's like one person's a homeless person, the next person's a multimillionaire, supermodel, actor, from every different area of your life, and they're all squished together.
01:55:10.000In LA, you gotta go to the party to hang out with that model or actor or to interact with them really in any way, you know?
01:55:15.000I feel like you don't have a lot of examples outside of actor and model.
01:55:19.000You're a multi-millionaire, supermodel after.
01:55:22.000The doctor walks next to the scientist.
01:55:25.000You never found just a cashier or somebody with a reasonable job in between?
01:55:29.000Everybody's living the dream of my models.
01:55:32.000If you guys were to take an Uber back, if you guys are going to stay and hang out and keep talking, I have to go because I have to go do Bonfire.
01:55:37.000I have to go to Sirius XM. What time are you going to be there?
01:56:46.000Those fucking dudes that like would wear those like 1950s type clothes, like roll the cuffs up with their jeans, wear those old school shoes.
01:56:54.000Yeah, sometimes I get a little like, you just kind of wish you lived one life in every generation.
01:57:00.000Like I want to just experience that a little bit and know what that's about.
01:58:04.000Don't put that shitty pirate ship on your ass.
01:58:05.000I have a nostalgia for almost like before any of that time period, where you'll see the pictures from the 50s or something, where it's just like, yeah, the dudes wore suits, the girls had these dresses.
01:58:15.000I'd like to experience that for a little bit, just wearing a suit and a top hat, flipping a quarter.
01:58:20.000Yeah, it's because you're fucking 6'4 and 120 pounds.
01:58:26.000We were watching this Jack Johnson fight on video from, like, what was it, like the early 1900s, and everyone in the audience had one of those hats, those gentleman hats that they would wear.
01:58:56.000Even today, it's like, accessorizing for a dude is the best look.
01:58:59.000You throw on a watch and a nice hat and just little things, it puts a dude together.
01:59:07.000Like a chick, you want as little shit on her as possible.
01:59:09.000You want it to be as close to naked as possible.
01:59:11.000We don't give a shit about accessories, none of that stuff, but a woman, when they look at us and they see a watch, they're like, oh, this guy's got money.
01:59:17.000This just in, Luis J. Gomez likes fucking dudes who wear a lot of jewelry.
01:59:21.000If I'm gonna fuck a man, he's gotta accessorize very well.
01:59:24.000He's gotta have like two or three watches on.
01:59:27.000Joe gave me an opportunity to stop when Jay had to leave, but you insisted on continuing to tell the world that you wanna blow dudes with watches on.
02:01:14.000But yeah, you wanted to just be a part of something and everyone was like, oh, that guy's so unique or weird, but I just looked like a hundred other kids at the mall that shopped at Hot Topic.
02:01:23.000That's a big problem with young people wanting to be a part of something.
02:01:26.000You know, I was listening to the Sam Harris podcast with Christian Piccolini.
02:01:29.000He was a white power guy who was recruited into these white nationalists when he was like 14. The podcast detailing these horrific fucking events that this guy went through and horrific violence against black people.
02:01:42.000He just got sucked into being in a group.
02:01:45.000When he was 14. And here he is now in his 40s, years after leaving, super open and honest about it and talking about it.
02:01:53.000And it makes you realize, like, this smart guy that you're hearing talking at 40 could have been that guy at 14 that got sucked into the group.
02:02:01.000Like, it's not, it isn't really not even whether or not you're smart.
02:02:05.000It's whether or not you have life experience.
02:02:20.000I did some fucked up shit as a teenager that it's like, I happened to land here, but I could have easily just been in jail or been a criminal or legitimately hurt people.
02:02:29.000I could have went down a much different path.
02:02:31.000Well, that's the crazy thing when people have so much hatred towards someone else for having a different view than them or being in a different situation.
02:02:38.000And you're like, dude, just understand.
02:02:39.000You were like two little circumstances away from being that guy.
02:02:52.000Dude, if you were a fucking teenager and you could have just been on the fucking news and everyone's praising you because you take this position, we'd all fucking do that shit.
02:03:00.000I said the exact same thing yesterday.
02:03:01.000I was talking about one of these NRA guys that was mocking these kids.
02:03:05.000I'm like, you're out of your fucking mind.
02:03:06.000If anybody should be talking about we gotta do something, it's kids that got shot at.
02:03:42.000So, more or less, in Maryland, there was this school shooting where a kid came into school with a gun, but they had an armed security guard.
02:04:14.000I don't like the idea of armed security at school.
02:04:18.000I don't like the idea of metal detectors.
02:04:20.000I don't like the idea of arming teachers.
02:04:21.000But it's like, to just dismiss that and be like, no, gun control is the only reasonable measure, I think, is naive.
02:04:27.000But just to the point, like you were saying before, I have no problem with people being like, hey, CNN shouldn't just be putting these kids on without having someone to rebut it.
02:04:34.000Or they shouldn't be putting this on and just take it.
02:04:36.000But to actually go at the kid and be like, oh, this kid's fucking, you know, just milking this experience.
02:05:11.000And we should have specific measures in place, and I know we do have that, but maybe we should look at it and push that line back even a little bit more.
02:05:19.000Because yeah, you're right, even in the example of the dude taking out that kid in that school, I don't necessarily have an issue with having an armed security guard at the school to protect children, but I kind of have an issue with somebody who, you know, you don't know when his girlfriend broke up with him and when this dude went batshit, right?
02:05:34.000So even when you have to give people psychological exams, when do they go crazy?
02:05:37.000When's there a moment where somebody snaps and now they're fucking crazy?
02:05:40.000I'm completely against gun control of just about any kind.
02:05:44.000But I actually think when people, a lot of times Republicans will go, it's not about gun control, it's about mental health.
02:05:51.000I think that's even more of a cop-out.
02:05:52.000Because you're like, what the fuck are you even saying by that?
02:05:55.000When you say mental health, there's lots of people who suffer from anxiety, depression, all these things.
02:06:01.000It doesn't mean that What are you actually going to say?
02:06:05.000I'm for unfettered gun rights, but everyone has to have a psychological exam.
02:06:10.000It's as if there's some way that we can predict who's going to shoot up a fucking school.
02:06:14.000And the truth of the matter is, it's really fucking tough.
02:06:17.000It definitely is, but what you're saying isn't entirely correct because it is absolutely about mental health and you have to be fucking crazy to be a school shooter.
02:06:31.000So it is, in fact, a mental health issue.
02:06:33.000Because they're literally on most of them.
02:06:36.000Like the vast percentage of them are on mental health medication.
02:06:40.000So the question is whether or not it's the mental health medication that's causing them to do this shit or whether or not they were already crazy and that medication was just trying to treat this disease and they got a hold of guns and that's the problem is the guns.
02:06:52.000Yeah, so maybe I didn't say that like precisely enough because I agree with everything you just said.
02:06:56.000I'm just making the point that the idea that it's like, oh, all we know is that there's this category of people who have mental health issues and they shouldn't be allowed to get guns is way too broad.
02:07:05.000Again, like you mentioned earlier, it's like, dude, they'll say these, anyone who's real fucked up nowadays, like has a lot of mental health issues, a lot, and is in school, they're going to put them on drugs.
02:07:15.000They put anyone who's borderline on drugs.
02:07:17.000So the really fucked up kids are on like a cocktail of drugs.
02:07:19.000And they'll admit with a lot of these like antidepressants, antipsychotics, that they can cause suicidal tendencies.
02:07:26.000Some of you will even say they cause homicidal tendencies.
02:07:29.000I think it's pretty reasonable that maybe in some very small percentage of them, they cause you to just fucking want to go, or they push you at least in the direction of wanting to go just shoot up a bunch of people.
02:07:40.000Well, they seem to relieve you of the feeling of consequences.
02:07:44.000They disassociate you from whatever you're experiencing.
02:07:50.000Disconcerting things about the idea that if someone has homicidal thoughts, but they're keeping them at bay, and then they take some pill that's saying, hey, fuck it, let's do this.
02:07:59.000You're not exercising whatever the mental process is of not killing people on your own.
02:08:06.000You need this thing to do it, and then you don't have your medication one day.
02:08:08.000I heard you talk about this the other day.
02:08:37.000Maybe the guy grabbed his hand and made him shoot himself in the head.
02:08:40.000Listen, this is definitely not the same story.
02:08:41.000The story was that this armed guy took him out.
02:08:44.000Yes, that's what that's what I heard as well.
02:08:46.000That's what I had heard like I'd heard a deceptive version of it then because I heard that this guy engaged in a firefight with this kid and killed him instantly.
02:08:55.000Yeah, that's why I read like Six different articles that said that yeah.
02:08:59.000Yeah, okay, so that maybe that's incorrect.
02:09:00.000There's too many things to pay attention to His shot hit the shooter's gun which is in his hand His shot hit the shooter's gun before or after the shooter shot himself.
02:09:13.000So he shot himself with the gun that got shot afterwards?
02:09:16.000It says, the officer's shot struck Rollins' gun, which was in the teen's hand, the sheriff's office said.
02:09:21.000Nevertheless, his quick action confronting Rollins just three minutes after the teen shot two students has been credited with bringing the incident to a quick end.
02:10:16.000I know it's a horrible, horrible thing, but the reality is I don't know if these people that are so obsessed with everything and just they're making it their lives, I almost feel like they're kind of missing the point.
02:10:26.000You know, my kid isn't going to be out at a rally holding a sign.
02:10:29.000I'm not spending my days doing that with him.
02:10:30.000I'm spending my days creating memories with him and just trying to spend my life making a good life.
02:10:34.000And I'm not really politicizing anything with my five-year-old.
02:10:37.000Well, there's people that feel like they want to do something.
02:11:22.000How do we give more people Therapy, or exercise, or recreation, or friendship, or community guidance, or whatever the fuck we're doing, where we alienate people to the point where they literally want to go and shoot everybody else.
02:11:34.000It's like the physical equivalent of flipping over a game when you're losing.
02:11:40.000Yeah, that's a great analogy, by the way.
02:11:51.000I completely agree with what you're saying.
02:11:52.000And I think maybe the silver lining in this, like the best thing that could come out of this, and it has nothing to do with the law, is just that kids in high school will fucking think twice before they're brutally ostracizing some other kid.
02:12:32.0009-11 was the next big, big thing, but it happens so often now that...
02:12:37.000Because of the internet, I almost feel like people are also desensitized to like how crazy it was because Columbine Dude, it was bizarre watching the images on the news of the people running out of that school It was like haunting and I remember watching it and my mom made this point and shoot my mom's a fucking drug addict lunatic But she had these weird little moments in her life where she said some crazy shit and she was like,
02:12:57.000Yeah, maybe they shouldn't have fucked with those kids just in a weird way and I was like, oh damn I'm really like defending these like but she just kind of it wasn't defending the act of people getting killed But it was sort of looking at the root, which is what you're saying, and she just kind of made that point.
02:13:13.000Well, I think even more than like, which I get the point, but even more than other kids bullying them, the truth is if you want to get at the root, you want to be like, hey, parents, fucking love your kids and give them a really good childhood.
02:13:23.000But it's like, how do you actually make that happen?
02:13:25.000There's a natural inclination that animals have to pick on the weaker ones.
02:13:29.000It's a terrible natural inclination that human beings have to avoid.
02:13:52.000But we're smart, and we understand the consequence of that.
02:13:55.000And you've got to give those kids a reason to not do that.
02:13:58.000You know, but there's also the problem with, like, if you're going to school with LeBron James, okay, like, standing next to this fucking giant super athlete, you're like, shit!
02:14:06.000What kind of bullshit genetic roll of the dice that I get?
02:17:38.000These are real artists who are really, like, when I was a kid, there was a lot of guys who would just take one of those things off the wall, and they'd go, oh, you want a Black Panther on your arm?
02:17:49.000And they would wet it and stick it on your arm and pull it down, and then they would just start tracing that line.
02:18:50.000Have you seen the Russian prison tattoos?
02:18:53.000There's a couple books about them, they're pretty dope.
02:18:56.000Well, there's one, Fedor Emelianenko, his brother, Fedor's brother, Alex, Alexander Emelianenko, he's got a bunch of crazy Russian tattoos on his body, and he had mob tattoos on his chest, right in front of his delts,
02:19:12.000and he got them both redone and switched over.
02:19:59.000Yeah, because part of the charm of the Emilian Ankos was that they were almost kind of like, just looked like that, like, oh, we don't even give a fuck.
02:22:06.000The German military during the period spanning the German Empire, 1871 to 1918. So it was World War I, and then the Third Reich, 1933 to 1945. So it was in the first two reichs also.
02:22:28.000You know, we all know the swastika, it has other meanings before the Germans took over, but you can't get a swastika tattoo and go, no, no, no, but it's a good one.
02:22:37.000Yeah, but it also is the war cry of the Swedish army.
02:22:41.000See, it's in 1631. It was saying, Gott mit uns by Sabaton during the first battle of Brettenfield in 1631. God with us with the war cry of the Swedish army.
02:22:55.000That was the last time Sweden was picking wars with anybody.
02:22:57.000So this is probably like some Russian gang shit, is what we're missing.
02:23:00.000God is with us, meaning God is with the Russian gang members.
02:23:04.000And we're just jumping to conclusions because the Nazis liked it too.
02:23:07.000And we're also, in America, Nazis are such a symbol of evil shit.
02:23:11.000I don't know exactly, in his culture, in Russia, where they're from, if that's like, fucking, you know, Hitler is this, you know, the antichrist that we kind of make him out to be.
02:23:20.000The Russians and the Nazis didn't get along very well either.
02:24:12.000Well, they've gone through a whole bunch of those in the past.
02:24:15.000When you go look at Russian history, you're like, what is the fuck?
02:24:19.000I went to the Genghis Khan exhibit at the Reagan Library out here, and you get to see how much of Russia they captured, and how much of, like, I didn't know that Genghis Khan had the biggest empire ever.
02:24:33.000Like, they literally owned all of Eurasia.
02:24:37.000And he was fucking like 40% of the people.
02:24:49.000He would like they would do this shit where they would like send like a Fuck it's been a while since I read about this but like they would like send it like when they were gonna conquer like a village They'd like send in like a note.
02:24:58.000It's basically kind of like well look just give up all your shit right now And you'll be okay, and then some of the villages would be like no We're not giving up all our shit kill them anyway, okay, and then they just come in Yeah, and then they do that just to like send a fucking message like even people who agreed to it there It's like brutal brutal shit.
02:25:13.000Have you listened to Dan Carlin's wrath of the cons?
02:25:41.000I don't know jack shit about Alexander the Great.
02:25:43.000And that was my same thing with Genghis Khan.
02:25:46.000I knew he was a bad guy, conquered a lot of people, you know, owned the world for a while.
02:25:50.000But Dan Carlin's five-part series is so goddamn good that you just really get a really accurate sense of how insane life was back then about what these fucking people did.
02:26:03.000There's one story about the Khwarezmian Shah who sent an envoy to Jin China, and along the way they saw in the distance what they thought was a snow-covered mountain, but as they got closer they realized it was a pile of bones.
02:26:19.000They killed a million people and stacked them up.
02:26:23.000And these people were, they had abandoned the road because the road was so overrun with bodies that had rotten and decayed that people were getting sick and dying.
02:26:37.000With anything anyone cares about today, and this goes for myself too, like anyone who's into like issues or politics, it's like you should always just keep in mind, we have it so fucking good.
02:27:43.000Being a SHAW is a very, like, I'm helping the world.
02:27:47.000That idea, people feel like they're doing something good, and you'll never convince them, no matter how ridiculous they might be, you'll never convince them what they're not being.
02:27:54.000My biggest beef, and I agree with you.
02:27:59.000You have to keep wanting to make it better and better.
02:28:01.000My biggest problem with, say, the left-wing activists of today is that it's almost like they want to burn it down because it's not perfect.
02:28:11.000And you're like, okay, just appreciate the steps that we've come, and let's go the next step.
02:28:15.000But don't burn it down, because it can be a lot worse.
02:28:18.000With the way we hold on to ideas and beliefs, it takes several generations for real progress to occur.
02:28:22.000The problem right now is there's so much technological progress that's aiding the physical progress.
02:28:28.000The progress is taking place far faster than it can handle.
02:28:30.000It's almost like going downhill in the snow.
02:28:42.000And I think as a human species, that's currently the state we're at, where people are trying to force things down, and we're trying to force change.
02:28:49.000And change normally takes a long-ass time to really settle in.
02:28:54.000And it's happening so quick, we can't really keep up with it.
02:29:18.000No matter what our backgrounds are, what we believe, we're just coexisting.
02:29:21.000Yeah, well, that's like the shit I was saying before about Chick-fil-A versus other businesses, where I'm sure there's some guy who just believes shit that I find horrifying, but I'm just like, hey, let me get a water, let me get a dollar.
02:29:29.000It's like, you don't even think about that shit.
02:29:31.000It's like, yeah, we do exist in this world.
02:29:33.000We, like, come together and do all this shit all the time, but then you can kind of, like, pretend online that you have this, like, we're worlds apart, and I would never do business with this.
02:29:43.000Also, the problem is communicating online.
02:29:55.000You're 100% right about it because you have an opportunity to be wrong, find out why you're wrong, think about it, process it, as opposed to editing your opinion down and going, here it is.
02:30:03.000This is a very specific, perfect version where it's not even really what your opinion is.
02:30:08.000It's just how people are going to perceive it.
02:31:02.000You're like one conversation away from deading the whole thing and just like working it out.
02:31:05.000Dude, text messages, emails, so much is left to interpretation, and depending upon how you're receiving that, if you're in a good mood, you're like, oh, I guess he's just busy, no big deal, he's a good guy, he'll get back to me.
02:31:15.000Or if you're in a down place, like this motherfucker, it's always on his terms.
02:32:12.000If I text you and I'm angry, I'm going to end a friendship with you because I'm going to be so frustrated with my fat thumbs texting shittily.
02:32:18.000I can't believe Lewis just called me a faglet.
02:32:37.000It's like Twitter or something like that is good for like, you know, it's good for like, hey, if you want to check out something cool, go to www.coolstuff.com.
02:32:45.000But it's not good for like, let me explain to you my take on taxation or some shit like that.
02:32:53.000The thing about your take on a person is you're allowed to have your, obviously, like say some politician or what have you, you're absolutely allowed to have your opinion on them.
02:33:00.000But you're not really talking to them.
02:33:07.000There's always a limitation if you're looking at someone from afar, right?
02:33:11.000And if you could sit down in front of someone, some politician that you agree with or disagree with, and then have a conversation with them, then you would find out who the fuck they really are, then you'd find out who the fuck you really are in respect to this argument, and that makes sense.
02:33:56.000And it's that thing where you would never say that if you were in front of them.
02:33:59.000You would never say that in front of them.
02:34:01.000I weirdly think that, like, as a fan, you're buying the right to express that opinion in a weird way, though.
02:34:07.000Not that they're a pussy, but when people get mad at people booing at UFC events, I'm going like, I don't know, they're kind of buying that experience, you know?
02:34:16.000And I can't hate on them if they want to express themselves that way.
02:34:23.000I mean, look, I got very humbled doing the podcast with Michael Bisping because I was doing radio on Sirius XM for a while and talking about MMA like I fucking knew anything.
02:34:32.000And then I started doing the show with Bisping, and then I was like, oh, I don't know shit.
02:34:34.000I'm not even going to pretend like I know shit.
02:34:37.000I'm not trying to fit into this fucking, like, mold or whatever.
02:34:42.000But, yeah, I think that from a fan's perspective, I don't really get mad at them when they start talking shit or start to, like, it's kind of like, it's part of the experience, you know?
02:34:51.000Yeah, no, I mean, I get it, but you shouldn't be disrespectful to people for no reason like that.
02:34:58.000There's a lot of guys that get into it just because they feel like they're behind a wall and they can lob bombs.
02:35:07.000It's like if you go to an event and there's two guys getting in a cage fucking fighting, to start booing them just seems to me it's like, dude, I mean, come on, man.
02:35:17.000They're fucking to entertain you guys getting in there and putting it all on the line.
02:35:34.000I don't believe that at a comedy show, if they're booing you during your set, they're completely taking out the experience for everybody else.
02:35:41.000And I feel like at a live sporting event, it's just not the same thing.
02:35:44.000They're not getting in the fighter's head.
02:36:17.000Was knocked out, was stopped, was beaten, had his momentum stopped, restarted it right back up again with the same or better enthusiasm every time.
02:36:26.000And deep into his 30s, did it all clean, no steroids, no allegations, no bullshit, just worked hard and was tough as fuck and won the fucking middleweight title.
02:36:37.000Dude, I know he lost two in a row, but the fact that he went out there and had a fight that I thought he was going to win until GSP caught him with that left, I thought he was going to win the fight, and then loses to GSP for the title in the biggest middleweight fight probably ever, and then just goes, I want to fight Kevin Gaslam in two weeks.
02:37:13.000Look, George St. Pierre, you know, he took four years off and everything like that, but he's still one of the greatest, if not the greatest of all time.
02:37:42.000George St. Pierre is a monster, and I think that everyone, including myself, really didn't think he was going to be able to come back with that long of a layoff and compete the way that, you know, you said to yourself, Mike was just mentally pushing himself forward, getting better and better.
02:37:56.000Michael Bisping today destroys Michael Bisping, a younger Michael Bisping, seven years ago.
02:38:04.000I mean, fighting is such a crazy proposition that even with elite guys, even when someone won a fight, if you made them fight again, would they win 100% of the time?
02:39:27.000And then, after retiring, comes back and wins a championship, a division up.
02:39:32.000Not just that, but finishes Michael Bisping and chokes him unconscious with a rear naked choke that was one of the tightest, most cinched up rear naked chokes I've ever seen anybody perform, ever.
02:39:43.000I mean, he had it like a jiu-jitsu guy.
02:39:45.000Like a lot of MMA guys, they have a harder time getting those gloves fully locked into position.
02:39:51.000Like there's a difference between, there's this, there's a rear naked choke with the palms touching the back of the head, which a lot of people opt for because you don't have to make as much space for the arm.
02:40:00.000You can get back there, you can grab that head, but the real way to do it is like this.
02:40:04.000The real way to do it is a karate chop, where you go to the back of the neck with a karate chop, and once you have that in place, then there's this crazy Crazy leverage.
02:40:13.000And it just squeezes the fuck out of someone's neck.
02:40:16.000When someone really gets one of those locked in, and that's what George did.
02:40:20.000And the way he did it was like as tight and sweet and four-star black belt level rear naked choke that you've ever seen in a USA. All right!
02:40:30.000God damn it, it's hard to listen to you describe it so beautifully.
02:40:35.000I never gave a shit at all the same way, like, me and Michael Bisping at this point have become friends, to where it's like, you start to fucking care about these guys.
02:41:14.000I even said, like, everybody knew that I was really good friends with him.
02:41:17.000It was, you know, we had done a bunch of podcasts together, but I was also the guy who talked him into retiring, because I was like, look, I know what's going on.
02:41:23.000Like, and, you know, I've seen this with other people, and I'm not friends with them, and it's not my position to tell people to stop, and I don't know them that well.
02:41:30.000You'd have to know someone real well to know where their head's at, you know?
02:41:56.000But then there's boos where guys were just like facing each other and they're canceling each other out.
02:42:00.000Like you're watching a really high level thing where these guys are trying to solve, what do I have to do to connect on this guy's fucking brainstem and knock his lights out?
02:42:11.000But the UFC is marketing toward these casual fans who are basketball fans and football fans, who aren't really the people who are hardcores, who appreciate the martial arts side of it, what these guys are putting into it.
02:42:23.000I don't think they're marketing towards any specific fan.
02:42:25.000They're not marketing towards people who don't understand it.
02:42:27.000Yeah, but I think that's almost the same thing, because they're just trying to get a mass audience, and the majority of people aren't people who really understand it.
02:42:37.000Like, what are they doing, specifically?
02:42:39.000I feel like when they put together fights that don't necessarily make sense in terms of rankings, when they put the interim belts on fights where you don't really need to be there, you just know it's a marketing move because I think a title on a poster will probably sell that many more tickets.
02:43:08.000I almost feel conflicted because I have this part of me that's like a purist that's like, no, it should be just like whoever number one is versus the champion and we should never fuck around.
02:45:15.000Because first of all, it shows you that in the specialties, there are people that have skills and techniques and abilities that just far exceed the very best MMA fighters.
02:45:46.000I think Floyd wanted to see what Connor was doing, and he spent the first few rounds kind of taking in data, and seeing, like, okay, what are you doing here?
02:46:57.000Dude, even when he fought Marcus Brimage, it was his first fight in the UFC, and I remember already there was an energy in the crowd about Conor fighting, and I didn't even know who this guy was.
02:47:08.000And you're like, why is this such a big thing?
02:47:10.000And then every fight was just a bigger and bigger and bigger thing.
02:47:13.000And then he would create this thing where Dustin Poirier's biggest fight ever is against Conor McGregor.
02:47:18.000And Dustin had had way more big fights than him, but still the big deal was that you're fighting this guy.
02:48:32.000That's great for the UFC. But for the sport in itself, because in boxing even, you know, you don't really know the difference between any of the title or the organizations or the titles.
02:48:41.000I don't know if the WBC or the W... I don't know if I'm sure about boxing, but even fans don't really know the difference.
02:49:25.000As long as people are interested, as long as people enjoy it as much as I enjoy it, as much as I enjoy watching it, as much as I enjoy calling it, as long as that's going to be the case, there's always going to be kids coming up like the Sean O'Malley kid, that wild motherfucker.
02:50:57.000That's very confusing, because a lot of times guys dive straight in, and guys who are good, especially the half guard, wind up wrapping them up real quick.
02:51:44.000They're not going to be much different than the best of the best now, like a Francis Ngannou or a Stipe Miocic or a Tyron Woodley.
02:51:52.000When you look at a guy like Tyron Woodley, that is about as explosive as a man who can step on a scale at 170 pounds for a brief amount of time can get.
02:51:59.000Yeah, and as good as they get, the competition kind of gets better, too.
02:52:02.000So yeah, if Tyron Woodley fought people from UFC 2, you'd be like, this should be illegal.
02:54:13.000And not the biggest guy in the world either.
02:54:15.000When he first fought in the UFC, I believe he was only 200 pounds.
02:54:20.000And he fought a guy who was like three-something and fucked him up in like six seconds.
02:54:24.000He fought some big overweight guy and he cracked him with a jab and dropped him with a jab and just beat him down on the ground real quick.
02:54:30.000I think he beat everyone until he ran into Mark Coleman in the UFC and then that was just this giant wrestler.
02:55:25.000That's funny, but it was also like a perfect storm of like people getting interested in it and then having that Ultimate Fighter reality show back in the days where people, you know, I still watched reality shows back then.
02:55:35.000Now you can't even fucking hold a gun to my head and get me to watch a reality show unless they're trying to survive in Alaska.
02:55:54.000But I will say, I think there's something interesting about the post-reality show world.
02:55:58.000Like we got over reality shows, but I feel like we're never the same.
02:56:01.000Like you never quite go back to like, even just like in like what you do with this show versus a radio show.
02:56:06.000Like you're not starting to like, hello!
02:56:12.000We don't want any of that now we just want like an honest conversation I feel like in entertainment in general you want something that it just seems it's not um as showy It's more just like what real life would be.
02:56:23.000Yeah, that's that's what people want for sure You know I mean and the thing about it is it's like it's led to a guy who was a reality star was the president that's as weird as it gets and Yeah.
02:56:34.000I mean, that is a reality star president.
02:56:36.000He's not a politician, just a businessman, got on a TV show, was a big-time celebrity, and now he won a popularity contest.
02:56:52.000Or just an advertisement for how much fucking the system sucks.
02:56:56.000That's my favorite thing about Donald Trump.
02:56:58.000I used to have to really argue with lefties about how democracy is a flawed system, but now you just look at it and you're like, yeah, so how about that?
02:57:05.000Yeah, he was able to convince more fucking dummies than your person was, and now he's your leader.
02:57:10.000Awesome if you have four people and they're all equally intelligent.
02:57:13.000We all get together and figure something out rationally.
02:57:16.000But when you get to a place where you can't even communicate with those people anymore, because there's 300 million of you, and you're scattered across a continent, but you're all supposed to be on the same team voting over really important issues that you probably don't even know anything about, like what you were talking about earlier about assault weapons or fracking.
02:57:31.000You bring up anything to certain people.
02:58:03.000Yes, no one agrees that it's actually a cost-benefit ratio.
02:58:06.000But the thing that's, like what you were saying before, with four people, democracy works.
02:58:09.000But I think a lot of it is, like, okay, so if we get into a fucking thing, like, let's say we're in a car crash, and one of the people in the car, or a car breaks down, rather, and one of the people in the car is a mechanic.
02:58:20.000We don't sit here and go like, well, let's vote over who gets to do this.