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00:00:50.000He's the one who got me into this shit.
00:00:52.000And it got taken away from me, and I was really sad and disappointed, became a drug addict and an alcoholic because of it, and now I can lift again, so I feel good.
00:01:00.000Is that unusual for someone who's got artificial hips to be able to do something like that?
00:01:56.000There's a cup, and then there's the ball that goes into the cup.
00:01:58.000The cup came loose, and it would shift around.
00:02:02.000Now, they think the cup comes loose because when you do both hips at the same time, they hammer one hip into one side, and then you're completely like a dead body almost, and they flip you over.
00:02:13.000When they flip you over, they think that's when that socket may come out.
00:02:18.000So they're starting to question doing them both on the same day now.
00:02:22.000Yeah, I've heard people getting one done a couple months later.
00:02:26.000I would recommend getting one done because then when I got the one that was messed up redone and I had one good leg and one leg to recover on, it was so much easier.
00:02:36.000I didn't have to have the special toilet and all the other stupid things.
00:02:38.000You could be on crutches instead of being a wheelchair probably, right?
00:02:55.000And I'm like, I've got to change this light bulb.
00:02:57.000Now, I would think that one good benefit about weightlifting would be increasing bone density.
00:03:03.000And that you would want that if you have artificial hips, especially because you've got that bar that goes down deep into the bone of the hips.
00:06:46.000Dude, I was watching some clips from last night from WrestleMania and Ronda Rousey was with Kurt Angle and I was looking at Kurt Angle's body.
00:06:53.000I was like, wow, that guy's gone through some damage.
00:07:30.000I had a bulging disc in my neck, and I was getting weird numbness in my hands and then nerve pain in my elbow.
00:07:37.000Ulnar nerve goes on there and when you ignore that shit and then keep training it, keep getting your fucking neck yanked on, then the disc starts to decay and then the pressing against the nerves and the spinal column, it gets worse and then it starts atrophying and cutting off the nerves to your arms and you get to the point where your shit just shrinks and it doesn't come back.
00:09:12.000I just wake up tired and with headaches, and then I went to this guy, Dr. Kuropian.
00:09:17.000He's in Encino, and he has this mouthpiece that is essentially, it's a mouthpiece with like a tongue, and it presses down, like a tongue depressor.
00:09:24.000It presses down on your tongue, and it keeps your tongue from falling backward.
00:10:52.000I think there's some holes in every diet.
00:10:54.000I think when you go and you make the decision to only eat meat, then some rational thought should come into your head.
00:11:02.000Maybe when I switch all the way to just meat all the time, maybe there's a possibility I'm going to eat too much meat.
00:11:08.000And so maybe that would make sense to bring in some fruit and bring in some vegetables just so you're not eating too much meat for the simple reason.
00:11:15.000Vegetables have been shown, and you can get a study to show you anything, but there's a study that's been done on 200,000 people that went on for 14 years.
00:11:49.000I don't know what their standard was for what they were looking for exactly, but the main thing they were looking for was it being protective in terms of your heart.
00:11:57.000That was the main thing they were looking at.
00:12:00.000So they found out that saturated fat is protective of your heart.
00:12:03.000They found out that cholesterol is actually protective of your heart.
00:13:39.000Excellent on this diet, and I think the reason is I'm getting a lot more protein in.
00:13:43.000I wasn't getting enough protein on keto because I was listening to everybody say, well, it'll knock you out of ketosis if you eat too much protein, and that's what I constantly was being told, but I wasn't muscular.
00:14:07.000The things that would knock me out of ketosis were just like mainly anything with carbohydrates.
00:14:11.000I wasn't really having too much of a problem with protein because I wasn't eating a lot of protein.
00:14:16.000But there were things that if I cheated on my diet, for example, of course that would usually kick me out of ketosis.
00:14:23.000But then I also got to a point where you become so fat adapted that you become what we like to call metabolically flexible.
00:14:30.000Metabolic flexibility just means you can switch from being a fat burner, you know, mostly a fat burner for the most part because I'm eating high fat, but then if I do eat something with sugar in it, it doesn't really affect me that much.
00:14:45.000So I can kind of move back and forth between those two things.
00:14:49.000But what I realized on the carnivore diet, when I switched over to carnivore, the whole time I was thinking, man, if I could just have an apple, I would feel so much better.
00:14:58.000Because just eating this steak, it's killing me and it's driving me crazy.
00:15:09.000Well, you automatically use intermittent fasting almost because you don't always have a hamburger in your pocket or you don't always run through In-N-Out Burger or whatever it might be.
00:15:18.000But yeah, you end up utilizing some intermittent fasting and you're like, fuck, man, the only food I have to eat is a hamburger or steak.
00:15:39.000And he sent me that study that I sent to you about the fruit.
00:15:43.000And I don't know if you watched that or not, but basically they did a large scale study with fruit and they found out that the fruit actually would drive blood glucose down instead of bringing it up when taken with protein like red meat.
00:15:57.000And so I'm like looking at this going like, well, it's not going to drive my glucose up.
00:16:02.000I mean, that'd be the one thing I'm concerned with.
00:16:38.000And those things sort of like protect you from what's going on in the sugar.
00:16:43.000They actually, there's phytonutrients in fruit, like say an apple.
00:16:46.000There's certain phytonutrients in there that won't allow your small intestine to like absorb the fat.
00:16:52.000And so it actually helps you to digest things like red meat that have high fat.
00:16:57.000There's cofactors in fruit that help you digest the sugars in them.
00:17:00.000I'm not a doctor, I'm a filmmaker, so I basically ask a lot of questions to a lot of people and start figuring things out, and then it's trial and error.
00:17:12.000Right now I'm in the trial and error part, and it seems like it's been working pretty good.
00:17:16.000Now, are you getting your blood work done?
00:19:06.000The blood work, it's a snapshot in time, and we hear that a lot.
00:19:12.000And I think that that's important to realize and recognize that it's just this one snapshot in time, and we constantly change all the time.
00:19:21.000That's particularly important with dietary cholesterol.
00:19:24.000With cholesterol in the blood, the way it registers, if you have a big fat-filled meal and then go and get a blood test versus you fasting, it's like, how is your body absorbing this is what's really important.
00:19:37.000How's your body absorbing these essential nutrients, not what happens right after you eat?
00:19:43.000Because your body knows what to do with that stuff.
00:19:45.000My cholesterol was 190, which is good.
00:19:48.000I mean, they want it to be under 200. But I thought what was really interesting was my HDL went way up from about like 60 points going from keto to carnivore.
00:19:58.000Well, are you eating a lot of fatty cuts, like rib eyes and stuff like that?
00:20:10.000Before, when I was doing a ketogenic diet, the fat is kind of free-flowing because you make your bulletproof coffees and you're just dumping fat and everything.
00:20:35.000I think that the difference between the grass-fed and the grain-fed, there really isn't a substantial amount of proof of how much better that is.
00:20:44.000I do know that grass-fed beef has five times the amount of omega-3.
00:21:33.000Talking to Bulletproof, and the guy was telling me, like, you have to, to Dave Asprey, he was telling me, you have to pay money to get recognized as being organic.
00:21:42.000I would take whatever that guy says with a fat grain of salt.
00:22:38.000That's like eating a giant fat guy about to have a heart attack.
00:22:41.000I mean, all that marbling, that's not supposed to happen.
00:22:44.000Like, you shoot a bison, like a free-range bison, you get a dark, ruby-red hunk of meat.
00:22:51.000I mean, and that's a fucking vibrant animal.
00:22:53.000I'd have to say that I completely agree with you, but there isn't science to really support that eating a cow that was fed with soy or corn is necessarily way worse.
00:23:03.000And so I might just be stupid for waiting for that to come out.
00:25:08.000How do we help people gain control of their diet?
00:25:11.000And I think that's really truly what we're talking about is control.
00:25:14.000And you look at something like a ketogenic diet, in my opinion, it's one of the few diets that can really help people with control of their diet because it can help...
00:25:25.000Well, the cravings of refined carbohydrates and sugars, those are giant.
00:26:01.000You're really not supposed to do that.
00:26:03.000It's not the saturated fat that's the problem.
00:26:05.000It's the saturated fat in conjunction with the refined carbohydrates and sugars.
00:26:09.000And one of the things that they're finding, too, is one of the big arguments that vegans in particular have used for high-carbohydrate diets in relation to obesity is look at Asian cultures.
00:26:20.000In Asian cultures, you have low levels of obesity but high levels of high-carbohydrates.
00:27:22.000We grew up eating Oreo cookies, having a plethora of ice creams and different things in our cabinets.
00:27:27.000We'd go to the gym and do a full-on squat workout, work up to 500 pounds and go home and eat half a gallon of ice cream just because we didn't know any better.
00:27:45.000I know Jim Stepani, he believes in that.
00:27:48.000He's into gummy bears and shit like that.
00:27:49.000There is a big shift, though, in what's going on in nutrition and what people think about that post-workout carb window and all that kind of thing.
00:27:59.000I think a lot of people have been shifting away from that kind of stuff.
00:28:01.000A lot of people have been shifting away from six meals a day.
00:28:04.000A lot of people have been shifting away from...
00:28:07.000Fasted cardio, and a lot of these dietary sort of myths that we thought that we needed to do, we're looking into it and going like, wait, if you don't eat after you work out, you don't lose muscle, these things don't happen, so do you need to do that?
00:28:19.000It could be beneficial or it could not be, but we're starting to realize that maybe some of these things that we were doing aren't necessary.
00:28:26.000I think there's science behind it, too, because there's money to be made.
00:28:29.000So I don't think it really matters exactly when you take in your carbs.
00:28:32.000I think if you were just to have carbs throughout the day, I think you would end up with a similar pump and you'd end up with similar recovery levels.
00:28:38.000I know there's a lot of studies showing that, but there's probably not a study showing if you took in 300 grams of carbs just normally versus dumping some more in after a workout.
00:28:50.000But one of the things that Rob Wolf has done is pretty interesting is he and his wife will eat the exact same thing and then an hour later they test their blood and they have very different results.
00:28:58.000And this is something that's really important to emphasize.
00:30:03.000Well, that's what we're trying to define by doing a documentary.
00:30:06.000What are the couple things that we can point to and say everybody needs to do this, this, and this, and then these other things are like, I just wonder if your average American only ate 100 carbs every day if people wouldn't be fat.
00:30:18.000Well, I think there's different carbohydrate requirements for athletes though.
00:30:21.000Like my friend Cam Haynes who runs, like when he's training for these ultra marathons, he runs a fucking marathon a day.
00:30:28.000That guy needs more carbs than the average guy who sits in front of his desk and is on a keto diet.
00:30:36.000You can only store 2,000 calories of, you know, carbohydrate in your body at one time, but the normal average person has about 40,000 calories of fat just hanging out on their body and they don't even know it.
00:30:49.000So we have a lot more energy available to us as fat if we Learn how to utilize it.
00:30:55.000Carbs are also crucial from one workout to the next.
00:30:57.000So if you're anybody that ever does multiple workouts in a day, any of these MMA fighters, CrossFitters, they're doing multiple.
00:32:03.000Well, intermittent fasting is absolutely beneficial.
00:32:05.000And I think one of the things that we're talking about, one of the benefits of the keto diet that you also get from intermittent fasting is when your body goes into fat-burning mode, your hunger goes away.
00:32:40.000I used to think about food all the time because I was constantly, you know, eating things with sugar in it.
00:32:45.000I used to go to the movies and because I'm a filmmaker, I love to go to the movies and I used to go all the time.
00:32:50.000And I had this rule where during the movie was my only time I could cheat on my diet and I could eat whatever I wanted.
00:32:55.000And it turned into a clusterfuck because I'd have, you know, I'd have like the little pretzel bites with the cheese that you dip in.
00:33:02.000And I'd have Sour Patch Kids and Twizzlers and I'd buy...
00:33:05.000I'd eat three bags of candy and pretzels and I'd eat the whole thing during the movie because the movies usually suck and I need something to do to keep my mind off of the shitty movie.
00:33:13.000So I would eat the whole time, you know, and obviously that didn't work, you know, and I was dieting besides that.
00:33:20.000But, you know, it wasn't doing anything because I was just killing all the, you know, all the progress I was making.
00:33:26.000But by doing this ketogenic diet and not being hungry...
00:33:30.000It's allowed me to just sit back and look at food and go, I want that and I want that because it's good for me.
00:33:36.000Rather than say, I need this now because I'm hungry.
00:35:11.000I think a lot of people, when they hear all meat, they're just thinking, I'm downing these giant plates of food, but I'm not that hungry.
00:35:18.000So I do have to try to hit my protein goal each day, though, which is about, you know, I need a certain amount of protein, so I need like 168 grams of protein or something like that.
00:35:30.000I went off the rails the other night at Peter Luger's in Brooklyn.
00:36:51.000Celebrate when you really kind of quote-unquote need to.
00:36:54.000Maybe you celebrate after you lost 20 pounds, but if you celebrate by cheating on your diet, it's actually more harmful to you than it is a real celebration.
00:37:04.000You're hurting yourself rather than helping improve yourself.
00:37:07.000Now, we do need times where we do have fun and we kick back and have a couple drinks.
00:37:13.000But drinking or overeating, a lot of those things, even when you're trying to stay on your diet, they will almost always lead to you cheating.
00:37:20.000I noticed that if I overeat, that's when I get hit with cravings sometimes.
00:37:25.000So somebody might think, I'm just going to stuff myself with a bunch of burgers.
00:37:29.000I'm going to stuff myself with a bunch of meat.
00:37:44.000I'd say even like on a carnivore diet, there's some things that I eat that are, I'd consider them like slight cheats, like going to In-N-Out Burger, you know, getting like a Flying Dutchman.
00:41:16.000Yeah, 200 grams of fat, and I was dropping fat like crazy.
00:41:24.000But then it came to a point where it stopped.
00:41:27.000I think that's what everybody needs to know.
00:41:29.000On any of these diets, they eventually plateau or stop, and then you have to sort of figure out how to get around that roadblock and continue to lose more weight or do whatever you're trying to do.
00:41:38.000Well, with some people, just too much protein knocks you out of ketosis because your body takes too much protein and reverts it to glucose.
00:41:48.000I mean, I think, like, if you have a couple grams over, you're not going to be in trouble.
00:41:52.000But if you're eating 500 grams of protein or something crazy or even, like, 300 grams of protein, you know, after a while, you're going to get to too much and you're going to have that problem.
00:42:01.000But I feel like for most people, that's not going to be the main issue, you know?
00:42:07.000The big difference is when I eat a lot of carbs, if I go off the rails and I'll cheat and have pasta or bread or something like that, I experience more inflammation.
00:42:16.000I experience more soreness in my joints.
00:43:31.000One of the things with keto that I noticed was it almost doesn't really matter that I'm in ketosis all the time.
00:43:38.000I think the effort to be in ketosis, I think, is important by getting rid of a lot of the carbohydrates that you have, the effort to kind of eat a little bit more fat.
00:43:46.000But what I've noticed is I don't think I need to really go out of my way to eat tons and tons of fat.
00:43:51.000I don't need to be dumping tons of MCT oil on stuff.
00:44:00.000Sometimes I eat bacon, eggs, things like that.
00:44:02.000I put up on my Instagram the other day about seven or eight foods that I thought if you just stuck to these seven or eight foods for a handful of days, you would lose a lot of weight.
00:46:00.000Well, you know, I don't want to eat regular waffles on a regular basis, but if I'm going to cheat and I eat what they have, you know, and they also have a very low sugar syrup, too, that tastes very good with some butter.
00:46:13.000It's just, it's the best option if you're going to do something like that.
00:46:20.000I feel better when I eat meat and vegetables.
00:46:25.000I had Jordan Peterson on, and he had some pretty serious autoimmune disorders, and his body was really in trouble.
00:46:31.000And his daughter had similar problems, and his daughter went to essentially a diet of just meat and greens.
00:46:38.000And now I think she's on a carnivore diet, and she's got an Instagram page too documenting it.
00:46:44.000But he went to meat and greens, lost a shit ton of weight, was losing, I think he said he was losing, what did he say, like seven pounds a month for something like, something along those lines.
00:47:01.000I think a lot of what people are dealing with is inflammation that's caused by too much processed carbohydrates, too much simple refined carbohydrates and sugars.
00:47:11.000And the inflammation leads to So if you look at what they call the five scourges of health, they are obesity, cancer, cognitive decline, heart disease, and diabetes.
00:47:40.000And you see a direct correlation between the amount of refined sugars and carbohydrates human beings have adjusted and started eating to the rise in diabetes and heart disease and all these other issues.
00:47:51.000And one of the things we were talking about before the podcast is...
00:48:01.000A lot of various health issues, and they're always trying to pin one cause of these health issues.
00:48:10.000And one of the real problems is when people develop these ideological answers, like veganism is one of them.
00:48:17.000They do not want to think that there's anything healthy about meat and that what they do is the only way.
00:48:24.000I'm watching this, there's a thread right now going on on Twitter between some cockamamie vegan doctor who's full of shit and all these people that are citing science and he is getting pissed off and he's showing his degree and photos of his degree.
00:48:36.000They're like, look, motherfucker, there's real science to the fact that dietary cholesterol is necessary.
00:49:01.000He's not recognizing the fact that the issue is not saturated fat.
00:49:06.000It's saturated fat in conjunction with all these other things.
00:49:09.000And that's a problem with these studies.
00:49:11.000One of the studies they did recently where they showed that people who ate meat more than five times a week were much more likely to have heart disease.
00:49:19.000But that's not a good study because they didn't say, what are they eating the meat with?
00:49:33.000A good study would be have someone, you know, get a large group of people, put them on a carnivore diet, have a large group of people, put them on a keto diet, have a large group of people, put them on a standard American diet, let them eat burgers and fries and chocolate shakes and sodas, and let's find out what the fuck it is.
00:50:14.000We veer off so far, and we're like, oh man, we got Doritos, and we got cookies, and we got all this stuff being thrown at us every single day, and it's convenient.
00:50:23.000And then someone will say, okay, you know, no more carbs.
00:50:25.000And you just go the complete opposite route.
00:50:28.000And you end up with something like a carnivore diet.
00:50:30.000But I think just, if you just sit there and think about stuff logically, it would make sense to me that you can overdo it on meat.
00:50:36.000Like, I think you can overdo it on just about anything.
00:50:38.000Yeah, that's why I lean towards balance, and that's why I like vegetables, but I can't talk you guys into that.
00:50:44.000Yeah, I think your balance is probably ideal, but the balance of the average American is not great because I think they think they can just grab and reach for anything.
00:51:25.000They get a little reward, and then they feel even more shitty.
00:51:28.000And then they crash, and they get up, and they do it all over again with a fucking Egg McMuffin and a cup of coffee with three scoops of sugar in it.
00:51:34.000This is the roller coaster that most people are on.
00:51:37.000And it all started with them going to bed too late because they stayed around and fucked around on their phone or watched TV. They went to bed too late.
00:51:57.000We're basically just going around interviewing people that are sort of in the know, that are writing these books, like Mark Sisson, Rob Wolf.
00:52:05.000Those are some of the people that we interviewed.
00:52:07.000And just asking them basic questions about diet and nutrition and sort of seeing where they stand.
00:52:15.000And then we shot about 15 interviews right now.
00:52:19.000And then it's my job to sort of figure out like, well, how does this all correlate together?
00:52:24.000So we don't really have, I'd say it'd be disingenuous for me to come on and say, this is exactly what we're going to do, because I have no idea what it's going to be.
00:54:13.000I don't think that's the way to help people.
00:54:14.000The way to help people is to sort of bring them together and figure out what works.
00:54:18.000I think it's very rare that people do it right.
00:54:19.000I think if you do it right and you have, you know, some sort of B12 supplements, whether it is, you know, from, like, greens, like, what do they use at, what's that?
00:55:23.000But the thing is, Plants are far more complex in their ability to communicate and their ability to even express predation, pain, and protect themselves through various chemical means to protect themselves from predation.
00:55:36.000They change the way they taste to keep from getting eaten.
00:55:39.000And there's been studies also that if you just play the sound of a caterpillar eating leaves next to plants, they recognize that sound and they change their taste profile.
00:55:51.000And those are chemicals like lectins, things like lectins and stuff that can be very damaging to people.
00:55:57.000A lot of people don't know, but if you eat cucumbers and tomatoes and stuff like that, you're getting a lot of these lectins that a lot of people have adverse reactions to.
00:56:06.000So a lot of people be eating a variety of vegetables in their diet and not understand why they still don't feel good.
00:56:17.000So a lot of people still don't know about it.
00:56:19.000When we started this film, we were going to call it the War on Carbs.
00:56:22.000That's what we were talking about, and that's what we've been talking about for quite a long time.
00:56:27.000But as we started to go through the movie, we were like, oh, I don't know, War on Carbs, like maybe that's going to isolate and that's going to pigeonhole the movie into one style.
00:56:36.000But as we started interviewing more and more people, we realized that the problem is carbs.
00:56:57.000And these are all a product of the modern world.
00:57:00.000Modern industrialized world and food production.
00:57:03.000They call the diseases Western diseases because they didn't used to have these diseases in other countries.
00:57:11.000And then when we started exporting molasses and we started exporting rice and everything else we were exporting to these other countries that didn't have it, they all got sick.
00:57:26.000That's just proof right there that if you eat that stuff, you know, it will have those consequences.
00:57:31.000Well, one of the great ways that I've seen someone talk about, I forget who it was that was discussing this, they were saying, look at human's teeth.
00:57:38.000People did not suffer from the type of tooth decay they suffer from now.
00:58:26.000I mean, just stuff like that, I'd say, that you still have in your diet and not know about.
00:58:30.000I used to have, I was doing a low-carb diet, so I'd figure, okay, I'll make a big salad and I'll dump this dressing all over it and the dressing's full of soybean oil.
00:58:44.000So when you set out to do this, what was the motivation?
00:58:47.000Just because your own, the health benefits that you found from adjusting your own diet?
00:58:51.000I think just, yeah, I mean, I just like to help people.
00:58:54.000You know, I like to make films that can help people find their way, find what's good for them or what works for them.
00:59:01.000You know, they can take it or leave it.
00:59:03.000I think this falls in the category of addiction, too, because the place that he came from where he was addicted to drugs and alcohol and he was able to overcome a lot of that, I think the ketogenic diet, I think without it, I think it would have been a lot harder.
00:59:17.000I think the ketogenic diet played into it.
00:59:36.000And so when I went to rehab, you know, I was about 245 pounds, and I came out at like 215 from doing a keto diet, and I started training again a little bit.
00:59:46.000But I was still very sick, and I was very, like, I was messed up at that time.
00:59:50.000Like, I wasn't right mentally or physically.
00:59:53.000I was just broken, you know, and I was ready for a change.
00:59:56.000And so, you know, it was very humbling.
00:59:59.000You know, it still is, actually, to even talk about it.
01:00:32.000And I think that's important, though, because we think we know everything and we start preaching all this stuff.
01:00:38.000And then I turned around and go, wow, I really don't know what I'm talking about a lot of times.
01:00:42.000I really better think about what I say more.
01:00:44.000And even now, I'm just a lot more careful about making absolute statements.
01:00:47.000I don't make any more absolute statements or things like that, because you want to be sure that you're conveying the right information to people.
01:00:53.000What were you saying before the podcast started?
01:00:55.000You were going to bring it up again about veganism coming from a religion.
01:00:58.000Yeah, veganism started with the Seventh Adventist Church, I believe.
01:01:04.000So there was a group of people that had a church, and the guy that led the church as part of the church was like, you know, they were following the Jewish kosher laws or whatever at first, and it was like no pigs or whatever else, shellfish,
01:01:52.000It seems like a lot of times you get – I get called out a lot on Instagram and stuff like that from people that are vegan saying, like, I can't believe you do this and blah, blah.
01:02:01.000But I would never go on their page and say anything to them at all.
01:02:25.000They're not participating in factoring farming, right?
01:02:27.000They're not participating in the horrors that we see in these fucking PETA videos where you see Cows and pigs and chickens are just being tortured all that fuck that is disgusting and that should be eliminated and shouldn't be a part of modern culture But in terms of like the humane raising and killing of animals Look,
01:03:13.000The human diet is a very complex thing.
01:03:15.000When you attach that human diet to ideology, then it gets really screwy because you're not dealing with people that are being honest about dietary requirements, how your body functions, what the studies show.
01:03:32.000If you look at it objectively, the objective, the first thing anybody should say, first thing across the board, get rid of all the fucking sugar.
01:05:01.000You see what they're doing to cows and the way they treat them and the way they raise them and just the whole idea behind it, like making them lactate.
01:05:09.000The only time cows lactate is when they have a baby, right?
01:05:12.000So they keep them in this state and it's just unnatural.
01:05:15.000And that is a reality of dairy production.
01:05:19.000And if you don't want to be a part of that, that's 100% noble.
01:05:22.000But we have to be honest about nutrition requirements, not about the ideology of veganism.
01:05:28.000And this is the problem with these people.
01:05:30.000And so many of them, especially the ones with vegan attached to their identity, because they use the name, like, I'm Vegan Warrior, this is Vegan Prince, I'm the Vegan Defender.
01:05:40.000They're fucking morons who joined a gang.
01:05:42.000And what they do is they start eating plants, they start talking shit, and they go looking to just go after anybody who's not on the same page as them.
01:05:49.000And the real problem is people that watch a movie like What the Health or something, and then think, well that, this is, oh my god, I'm killing myself by not being a vegan.
01:07:37.000Well, no, I would just say my ketogenic diet, before I went on the carnivore diet, We're good to go.
01:07:58.000That's sort of what the switch was, and it's just an intervention for now.
01:08:02.000I feel that I used to think that the best, healthiest diet for a human being would be a vegan diet with like three or four ounces of meat thrown in at every meal, you know, just to add.
01:08:25.000We're always searching for the nutrients that we need, the vitamins and minerals that we need and all the macronutrients we need.
01:08:30.000If we front-load it first and give us a chunk of nice steak, your body's not hungry afterwards.
01:08:36.000And I think that's what's happened to me where Now I'm sort of giving my body what it needs, and it's never asking for what it doesn't need.
01:08:44.000I saw a comment the other day on one of those animal videos, one of those horrible factory farming videos, said, because of this video, I'm 60% vegan now with my diet.
01:09:23.000It's a ridiculous thing to say, but the problem is people, they're not just eating things, they're posturing, they're publicly posturing on their position on morals and ethics.
01:09:41.000But I think there's also a difference between, you know, survival and there's a difference between performance.
01:09:47.000And I think, you know, we're asking our bodies, all three of us at the table, we're asking our bodies to do some demanding things.
01:09:52.000So I think in that case, like maybe we do need a little bit more meat, especially if meat is going to be kind of our main driver of our calories, then it kind of makes sense that we would need a little bit more of that than maybe your average person.
01:10:04.000So what you said about the three ounces of meat every couple meals probably makes sense and probably be great for survival.
01:10:10.000The other thing that's really interesting, though, is that even for those of us who have been trying to seek the truth and for those of us who have been trying to eat good and trying to train, it's not like you're like, oh, there's Joe Rogan, 150 years old.
01:11:14.000I mean, I've always been supplementing with vitamins, and I've been getting my blood work done for a couple decades now, but the real shift was switching to ketogenic.
01:11:28.000Do you know where the shift came from me?
01:11:30.000And you're probably not going to believe this.
01:11:32.000The shift came for me after going to a show where I first met you.
01:11:35.000The very time we first met, I don't know if you remember it, it was outside the Ice House in Pasadena.
01:11:41.000And I came up to you and talked to you with Brian Callen and you were talking about diet.
01:11:45.000And you were saying, man, I can't believe that people eat all this shit.
01:11:48.000And like, you know, you say every town I go to, the first thing I do is look for the Whole Foods.
01:11:53.000And I find the Whole Foods and I go get my food.
01:11:55.000And I'm thinking, man, I travel all the time.
01:11:57.000If Joe Rogan can do this, why am I not doing it?
01:12:10.000And after that day, I started really digging into it a lot more.
01:12:13.000Well, I spend a lot of time in hotels, so what I would do is I would show up at a place on Thursday, and I'd be there until Sunday, especially when I was doing comedy clubs on the road.
01:14:06.000I mean, they're down there with all that shit.
01:14:09.000Speaking of fish and stuff like that, I do think it's important for people to get some omega-3s in if they are going to try a carnivore diet.
01:14:15.000And a way to do that is either eat the grass-fed beef or to add in some salmon.
01:14:19.000So I add in salmon twice a week, usually just pokey or something like that.
01:16:09.000Organ meat is the best meat for you and liver in particular.
01:16:12.000That's why wolves, when the alpha is established in the pack, the alpha will always eat the wolf or eat the liver first.
01:16:20.000There was this crazy thing that this guy was doing where he was living with wolves.
01:16:25.000And he had established himself as the alpha in the pack.
01:16:28.000And one of the ways he would do that, they would have a kill, and he would plant a liver inside the kill.
01:16:33.000And then he would eat the liver and growl at all the other wolves.
01:16:36.000He would let them go because he's got the liver.
01:16:38.000But then he had to leave in order to help someone else.
01:16:44.000This guy had a farm that was being attacked by wolves, and so he set up some speakers and had some other wolves howl and essentially tried to convince these wolves that were killing these guys' animals that a new pack had been in town.
01:16:58.000And with these big speakers, these other wolves were like, holy shit, there's a lot of fucking wolves here.
01:17:22.000Well, he was doing studies on wolves, and they were all contained in this large, fenced-in area, which is also highly criticized, because there's some videos on YouTube that you can see of these wolves attacking this one beta wolf.
01:17:36.000And one of the reasons why that behavior is so accentuated is the fact that they are contained in a very small area.
01:17:41.000I mean, it's big in that it's a few acres, but it's small in terms of what a wolf's natural roaming would be.
01:17:47.000They do say that animals tend to go for...
01:17:52.000So if you look at salmon, there'd be a bunch of salmon in a river and there'd be a big chunk taken out of them, but the rest of the body would be there.
01:18:00.000And the reason was a bear would just basically rip out its liver.
01:22:08.000Because the next step for me is once I get to the point where I feel like I'm lean enough to where I want to be, I still want to lose about 10 pounds.
01:25:17.000Say, Hector Lombard, who's fought at 170 and just really packs a lot of meat on, and he fights at 185. You know, when he fights at 185, he's also fought at 205 before, I believe.
01:25:29.000If he decided to fight at 205 and John Jones decides to fight at 205, I mean, Hector's my height, and John Jones towers over me.
01:25:38.000So you're looking at just a totally different body size.
01:25:44.000And then from 205 to heavyweight, you could get some Brock Lesnar motherfucker or Francis Ngannou who has to cut weight to make 265. Francis is even more impressive, right?
01:26:19.000There's videos of him on his Instagram from yesterday of him back in the same sand mine, and he's wearing his fucking Reebok jersey with his name on the back of it, digging sand with all the guys he used to work with.
01:26:33.000It's fucking crazy, but that is hard labor.
01:27:27.000He beat Francis Ngannou, who everybody was fucking terrified of.
01:27:29.000And Francis has been blowing everybody out of the water, including Alistair Overeem.
01:27:34.000I just think, and knocked out Junior Dos Santos, also a former heavyweight champion, I think Stipe's the best of all time.
01:27:40.000So when, you know, Stipe's able to beat you, and beat you by using his wrestling, and using his smarts, and using his octagon intelligence, and just his overall fight IQ, he just knows how to fight better.
01:27:51.000He's just got more tools in the toolbox.
01:27:54.000Francis can learn, and he's an incredible athlete, and what he has over everybody is power.
01:28:03.000We have a machine out there called the Power Cube, and that machine, Francis registered the highest ever power punch by like 10,000 units, whatever the fuck that means.
01:28:12.000So Tyrone Spong, who's a super powerful heavyweight boxer, he scored like 119, I think it was, or 114, and then Francis scored 129, 129,000.
01:29:06.000It was like watching Mike Myers, like a horror movie or something.
01:29:09.000Michael Myers or Freddy Krueger or something just kept coming back.
01:29:12.000Doesn't have the wrestling experience, doesn't have the wrestling technique, but what he has is incredible heart and desire and he's very hungry to learn.
01:29:20.000And I'm very hopeful that he's going to learn and I really, really hope that he incorporates a real rigorous wrestling program because that was one thing that was lacking from his last training camp when he fought for Stipe.
01:29:49.000Yeah, maybe you just like put USADA on the back burner for above 265. Like, guys, listen, you can do whatever you want.
01:29:57.000You know, I'm hopeful that Francis still, I mean, he's a little older in terms of, like, being this new to the sport at 33. You know, I mean, really didn't even start training until he was 28, which is kind of crazy.
01:30:14.000I mean, you want to talk about an amazing story that's like right out of a movie.
01:30:18.000The guy was homeless, came from Africa where he worked in a fucking sand mine, and then gets to the number one contender spot in the UFC. But there's guys now, like Alexander Volkov.
01:31:22.000The difference between him and a guy like...
01:31:26.000You know, Francis is he's not new to the game.
01:31:29.000I mean, he's a giant guy who's been fighting for a long fucking time.
01:31:33.000So he is a real efficient martial artist.
01:31:36.000When he fought Fabricio Verdun, I could tell early on these striking exchanges like, wow, Fabricio might be in trouble.
01:31:43.000This guy, he's long, he knows to stay on the outside, and he knows he's got an excellent sense of distance, and he's got legit knockout power.
01:32:36.000And, you know, he was obviously fighting in the unlimited class, and he was fighting guys like Dan Severn at the time, who was, you know, 265. Zabit is thin, but he's got muscle on him.
01:33:00.000That was the first time I saw him fight live.
01:33:03.000And it's a different thing when you see someone live.
01:33:05.000Like you see someone in a video and you go, wow, that guy's good.
01:33:07.000But then you see him live and, you know, your brain has like a little computer where it's seen or, you know, you've got a database, especially me.
01:33:37.000He fought Carlos Condit, and there was a moment in the Condit fight where he stepped forward and snapped Carlos with a straight right hand.
01:35:21.000And him versus Khabib would have been a very interesting fight because Paul is a big 155. He's very big and very strong, and he is an expert, world-class striker.
01:35:32.000Paul Felder is a dangerous, dangerous man for anybody at 155 pounds.
01:37:03.000Look, Iaquinta can bang, and he's tough as shit, and he's got a wrestling background, which I think played a big factor in that fight.
01:37:10.000Obviously, he was greatly outclassed by a guy who I think is one of the greatest lightweights of all time.
01:37:16.000And now that he's the champion, I'm very interested in seeing.
01:37:19.000I think what we saw in that fight that was very intriguing was the fact that Iaquinta was able to get back up and that Iaquinta was one of the few guys that Nurmagomedov has ever fought that has stuffed a bunch of takedowns and then into the late rounds.
01:37:34.000And this is a guy in Al that didn't even prepare for a five-round fight.
01:37:37.000He was getting ready for a three-round fight with Paul Felder.
01:37:40.000So, I mean, fucking props to Al Iaquinta.
01:40:22.000I've goofed around about pro wrestling before, but my honest feelings, all bullshit aside, is this is one of the toughest professions in all of entertainment.
01:43:27.000For a fucking hour, a night, or whatever it is, it's a lot of pressure you're putting on your neck, and then defending things with your neck, and everything gets inflamed, and everything's injured, and you get these little micro-injuries that never really heal because you're back training again.
01:43:40.000That iron neck thing works great, though.
01:43:42.000I think we both looked at it kind of skeptical when we first saw it, and then the guy did a demo for us, and we both used it and thought it was really cool.
01:44:21.000You know, like if you think that, you know, if someone's choking you, it's like, don't just think that your neck is strong enough to handle it.
01:44:48.000He actually, you know, he was addicted to drugs.
01:44:51.000Now he's doing a big thing on sobriety.
01:44:53.000And he was heavily addicted to, like, opioids for a long time.
01:44:58.000And he actually went to the point where, I believe...
01:45:03.000It was a situation where it was either the drugs or he gets fired, and he basically got fired from WWE or released or whatever happened, but sort of went down a really bad road, and it's just good to see him back and back being as healthy as he can be at this point because he went through a really rough time,
01:45:32.000You're hearing all the time someone's cousin, my brother, this guy, my mom.
01:45:37.000People get injured, they get on pills, and then they wind up dying, or they go down that road and they become addicts.
01:45:43.000It is a fucking, not so silent, but epidemic in this country.
01:45:49.000And a lot of people feel completely helpless because they're getting prescribed these things by their doctor, so they think they should take them.
01:45:55.000And then, you know, you watch your friend drift away.
01:45:58.000I mean, it happened to one of my family members.
01:46:00.000I watched my family member go from being a normal guy to being a total fucking loser.
01:46:04.000It's just because he hurt his back and he got hooked on pills and the next thing you can't keep a job and he's always on the pills and he never did shit when I knew him.
01:47:08.000Schaub broke his nose in the Cro Cop fight.
01:47:10.000Cro Cop smashed his nose with an elbow, and he had to get his nose reconstructed.
01:47:14.000And when he got his nose reconstructed, they put him on pills.
01:47:16.000Next thing you know, he's taking those pills all day long.
01:47:19.000And it's four months later, and his buddies grabbed him, and they went to his house, and they opened up his medicine cabinet, they threw everything away, and they go, this is it.
01:48:22.000I mean, I don't know, but it was a weird situation, but getting off those pills was necessary.
01:48:32.000It would have ended my life, for sure.
01:48:34.000Now, if you had gotten a surgery tomorrow, like, say, what if your hip fucked up and they had to go back and redo it, would you take the pain pills?
01:48:41.000I would take the painkillers as long as I was in the hospital.
01:49:12.000He had a real problem with ibuprofen for a while.
01:49:15.000And then Dr. Rhonda Patrick did a podcast with me where she was talking about the dangers of ibuprofen and all the different real severe side effects that people have.
01:51:27.000There was a real recent redefinition of it.
01:51:30.000The show that you and I did, and in the movie, you'll see it, it's very pivotal.
01:51:34.000Like, what you do is awesome with this podcast, by the way, but what we were able to do from that show is, like, basically you kept Kratom legal.
01:52:59.000And they don't test it for contaminants.
01:53:02.000So the company that I did the film with, a company called Urban Ice, they test all their products for contaminants three times during the process.
01:53:10.000You know you own a supplement company.
01:53:21.000And then the companies that are doing it, That screws them because now they've got to try to make their product cheaper to keep up with other people, but they're paying for the testing each time.
01:53:30.000Well, the supplement business is almost on the honor system.
01:55:19.000But for the most part, like a company can't tell you that.
01:55:22.000Like, you know, you as the owner of Onnit can't say, take this many pills and this will like take this much alpha brain and it'll do this for your brain.
01:55:28.000Because you say the wrong thing and the FDA is all over your ass, right?
01:55:36.000The way that Kratom needs to be marketed is like basically, the way that supplements are supposed to be marketed is you know that you're taking it for a specific response, but the FDA doesn't let you tell people that, which is just really screwed up too, because I think that that's a problem.
01:56:05.000It can help somebody get over an opioid addiction.
01:56:08.000But to say it cures an opioid addiction or to say that it even will cure your pain or help your pain, those are bigger claims than supplements are allowed to make.
01:56:18.000And that's the issue with people coming down on it.
01:56:21.000That is the thing, like, what helps you over an addiction.
01:57:15.000He was always in charge, always had the most friends, was super popular.
01:57:20.000But there was some void inside, something missing that would turn him to drugs and alcohol.
01:57:25.000Man, it's like when you know someone that has that, it is such a helpless feeling because it's not a goddamn thing you can do about it.
01:57:33.000I first experienced it when I was in high school.
01:57:36.000My dad was an architect, and I got a lot of gigs over the summer working on construction sites.
01:57:42.000And so I would hang out with a lot of these guys that were carpenters and laborers, and this one guy that I worked with was a great guy, but he couldn't fucking lay off the coke.
02:01:17.000And so what's really beautiful is being able to help these people and then, you know, forgetting about these people because there's so many of them.
02:01:26.000There's hundreds of emails and texts and things.
02:01:29.000So you help them and then you move on to the next guy.
02:01:32.000But then three or four months later, you get this, you know, thank you letter, you know, that That says like, hey, I completely turned my life around.
02:01:41.000You know, and I'm sure some of them still go the other way and you can't save everybody and you can't help everybody, but you sure can try, you know?
02:01:48.000Well, you definitely make an impact and podcasts like this always make an impact.
02:01:51.000There's people out there that are listening right now and they might be in their car.
02:01:54.000They might be sitting at home just trying to figure out what the fuck to do with their life.
02:01:57.000Sometimes all people need is that little extra juice, that little extra motivation that they get from hearing somebody like yourself that's gone through it.
02:02:05.000And came out on the other side healthy and like fuck if he was crying looking in the mirror and feeling like shit and he was addicted to drugs and And and and he came from a healthy background and he came from a background where he's making a documentary about health when it got really bad You know when you when you start drinking in the morning,
02:02:22.000it's really bad Yeah, and alcohol became the worst part of it worse than worse than even you know the pills and I just remember They start selling alcohol in L.A. at 6 a.m.
02:02:32.000And I remember I used to live right across from Gold's Gym in Venice.
02:02:35.000And I'd get up and I'd walk across the street at like 545 because my car was parked.
02:02:42.000I had to park across the street right by the gym.
02:02:44.000I'd walk across the street over by the gym and I'd see my friends going into the gym for a workout.
02:02:48.000And they'd be like, hey, Chris, what's going on?
02:02:52.000And that's when I knew it was really bad and things needed to change.
02:02:56.000So I really do think that, like you said, it takes somebody just like that little thing.
02:03:03.000So if there's people out there that are listening to this, just hit me up or hit up somebody and tell them that you're hurting because people will help you.
02:05:02.000He had an issue with pills as well and I'm pretty sure, I don't want to speak out of school, but I'm pretty sure his came also from an injury and then he had a pill problem and then was trying to figure out what the fuck to do with it and went down to Mexico Went to an Ibogaine clinic and then said,
02:05:19.000wow, this is, I mean, fixed him up totally and then opened up his own clinic.
02:05:25.000One thing I didn't understand is I interviewed this doctor, Debra Mash, and it's probably because she's in Florida.
02:05:31.000She's tied in with politicians, which is always a problem.
02:05:34.000And so she's 100% for ibogaine, but she's also against kratom, which makes no sense because she thinks that kratom is...
02:05:44.000Because ibogaine, you have to go get it medically supervised and medically done, and she just thinks giving people kratom is loosey-goosey kind of stuff.
02:05:53.000Man, I'm 100% for clinics opening up and then giving the money to the doctors and give the money to the state.
02:05:58.000If you can get Ibogaine into the hands of a lot of these people, it's so ruthlessly introspective.
02:06:03.000Not from my personal experience, but Aubrey's taken it.
02:06:06.000I know several people, Ed has taken it.
02:06:09.000I know several people that have taken it and it's completely turned their life around where they had this...
02:06:14.000Intense 24-hour experience where you just examine every single aspect of your life in this really alien way and then after it's over you like I'm never fucking drinking again or I'm never taking pills again and they really do change their life and it's also Not just an introspective experience,
02:06:30.000but it also rewires the way your brain handles the addiction.
02:06:34.000I'm not qualified to speak how, because I don't really understand it.
02:06:38.000I don't know if anybody understands it, actually.
02:06:54.000One of the highest rates of success, another super high rate of success that we might be getting in California, it's on the ballot in 2018, is legalizing psilocybin.
02:07:05.000If they can legalize psilocybin, that can fix a lot of fucking people, too.
02:07:09.000And that's also something that you don't die from.
02:07:19.000Yeah, and that's for mental health, right?
02:07:22.000Well, Johns Hopkins University did some studies on it, and one of the things they found is soldiers with PTSD. This is one thing that MAPS is concentrating on now, especially soldiers with PTSD and anybody with PTSD, rape victims, violent assault victims.
02:07:38.000Some people have some real hard times getting past past events.
02:07:41.000And psilocybin has incredible effects on that.
02:07:47.000And right now, MAPS is involved in some pretty heavy clinical trials with MDMA. And they think 2021 is around the time where they're going to have MDMA clinics.
02:08:17.000I think that what a lot of people don't understand is when you have an addiction, there's deep-seated things in your mind, in your subconscious, that drive you to go to the pills or go to the drinks or whatever.
02:08:29.000And it doesn't just go away when you get sober.
02:08:42.000I'll connect you to Aubrey because he's really tight with those guys that are in the middle of those studies right now and he's actually gone through that protocol and he's helped other people.
02:10:31.000There's a tree, and there's a real issue now in this country where this bark is, because, you know, there's fucking wars going on to try to get this tree.
02:10:41.000And it's not a very common tree, either.
02:10:43.000I mean, it's rare, and we could be in a situation where they chop down all the fucking trees that make ecstasy before we make it legal.
02:11:53.000One thing I've always noticed about training is that when you feel good, you can lift so much better and it just makes you feel really good because You know, you're trying to lift with some force, just like you hitting these bags and stuff.
02:12:06.000You're trying to put something into it.
02:12:08.000And if you can't put the mustard on it that you want to because your shoulder hurts, it makes you grumpy.
02:14:14.000But I'm telling you, man, there's nothing like running up hills.
02:14:16.000And the hills that I run, it's all rocky terrain, so I'm jumping from one rock to the next, and it's steep like that.
02:14:22.000So I'm running up, and I have to take a couple of breaks to get to the top.
02:14:26.000It's a half a mile up and half a mile in.
02:14:28.000I have two different courses that I run.
02:14:31.000Well, I have several, but the ones that I run the most, the full length of it, I could run as long as four miles, or I could break it up into one or two.
02:18:34.000When you talk about your diet and its impact on inflammation, do you ever think that if you got on this diet when you were younger, you wouldn't have had to get hip replacements?
02:19:36.000I screwed up my shoulder, I tore my rotator cuff, and I tore my tricep a while back, and they never really healed properly, so that's an issue.
02:19:46.000But the rest of my other joints that aren't injured are all fine and feel good now, you know, so...
02:19:53.000When I got my hip surgery 10 years ago, the doctor said to me, your knees are next and they need to be done probably like in a year, you know?
02:20:31.000Every joint in my lower body, from my ankles, my knees, my hips.
02:20:35.000And the guy basically just said, you need to go get a full-body MRI. So I get a full-body MRI, and he tells me that there's really nothing wrong with me.
02:20:42.000And I'm like, I don't know what you're looking at, but I can't walk in the morning.
02:20:45.000And he's like, ah, well, you don't really have cartilage in your knees.
02:20:50.000That's going away, but you do have it in your ankles.
02:20:55.000And he didn't really offer me any solutions.
02:20:57.000And it was at that point where I realized...
02:21:00.000If I'm going to do anything, a doctor's not going to be the one to help me.
02:21:03.000So I think a lot of times people are always so concerned, like, did you ask a doctor?
02:21:07.000And I'm always like, well, doctors never really helped me.
02:21:12.000It's me researching things that cause me pain that really helped me.
02:21:16.000So that's what I had to do, was go out and look for it myself.
02:21:21.000Wow, so do you ever go back to that doctor and go, hey motherfucker, it's ten years later, I'm still walking, now I don't have any pain?
02:21:29.000Yeah, I should go back to him and say, hey, you know, they screwed up my hip and they left a bad hip in me for two years and I went to the doctor and I went to my doctor and I said, doc, this is debilitating.
02:21:42.000And so he takes a tissue box and he throws it on the ground.
02:22:58.000Yeah, it goes away when I – the thing is that the diet has helped clear up like a lot of inflammation.
02:23:03.000It's also helped clear up a lot of body fat, which helps you get into better, more advantageous positions when you're lifting, you know, that you can't – I couldn't even bend down to deadlift properly.
02:23:13.000Yeah, your gut would get in the way and all that stuff like that.
02:23:15.000So get rid of those things and that helps a lot.
02:23:18.000Losing weight in general always is going to improve health markers and you're always going to feel lighter and better, you know, for the most part.
02:23:25.000And then it was at this like losing weight.
02:23:28.000And then when I started taking Kratom with a ketogenic diet, And really reduced my inflammation is when I started feeling better.
02:23:37.000So it was sort of a combination of those two things and continuing to move.
02:24:08.000I think I would probably feel great, but right now I can't move enough to get in those positions, so I have to take a pre-yoga class to get into yoga.
02:24:16.000You just take a yoga class and you do your best.
02:24:18.000They always say that, because there's a lot of people in my class that have some serious issues that can't move well, or there's this one lady who goes, and she's fucking courageous, man, because this lady's so overweight, and she goes to this yoga class and she does her best, and And I see her, and I want to say something to her,
02:24:34.000but I don't want to say something to her.
02:24:36.000I don't want to be the guy and go, hey, for a giant lady, you're fucking putting it up there.
02:26:01.000The fastest, easiest way to warm up your body is through the upper body.
02:26:04.000A lot of times our knees and our What do you mean?
02:26:06.000Well, because like your knees and your lower back, I mean, just in general, this isn't everybody, but in general, a lot of people, the knees, the lower back and some of those things are going to take time to warm up.
02:26:16.000And you can warm them up faster just by getting the upper body to move.
02:26:21.000When you utilize your upper body, you get your heart rate up a little bit faster.
02:30:23.000Like, your body's dealing with all the...
02:30:25.000I don't even like when they fight more than one time in a night.
02:30:27.000And they got away with that back in the day, and I know Glory still does that for some of their kickboxing tournaments, but it's just fucking dangerous.
02:32:59.000He had two brothers that died, and one brother that ended up going to jail for like 15 years, and he was the runt of the family, and he ended up becoming the first ever UFC lightweight champion.
02:33:09.000Which is just overcoming adversity like crazy.
02:34:16.000What's great about that book, also, it tells the whole story of how the UFC started, how it got started and all the players involved, and it tells that whole story, which is really cool.
02:34:57.000Well, hopefully it will be on Netflix, Amazon, whatever.
02:34:59.000I'm not sure exactly where it will be yet.
02:35:01.000We've partnered with The Orchard, and they're the distribution company, so right now they're in the process of figuring out where it will be.
02:35:10.000It'll probably start out, to tell you the truth, on iTunes is the normal route.
02:35:14.000And then you let it play on iTunes for a while.
02:35:18.000There's a whole system to it because it makes money in different ways, different places.
02:35:23.000Unfortunately, for documentary filmmakers, Netflix is sort of your graveyard at the end because you want it to be on Netflix because everybody has access to it.
02:35:32.000But as a filmmaker, they really shaft you.
02:35:36.000Because they buy the film from the distribution company, and then all that money just goes back to the investor, and it's like, I don't see any money out of it.
02:35:47.000So the only way to make documentaries and make them profitable is make them really, really cheap, and a lot of times we don't do that, so we end up losing some money on it a lot of times.
02:36:25.000Well, I know that Icarus did really well, and it did really well for Brian Fogle, you know, but that is a groundbreaking, life-changing documentary.
02:37:35.000There wasn't that one thing where you have to see it because of this thing.
02:37:38.000Yeah, because the thing about cheating in the Olympic Games, it's always been suspected, but to get it so confirmed, where you have the guy that did it, and he's running from the Russian mob, or whatever you want to call them, and they're trying to fucking kill him, and now he's in hiding.
02:37:54.000He's still in hiding to this day in America in protective custody, and they're looking for him.
02:39:36.000We should tell people what Icarus is, too, if they don't know what we're talking about.
02:39:39.000So this would be a standalone podcast.
02:39:41.000It's a documentary that Brian Fogel made where he decided to ride his bike in a race clean, completely clean, and then do it on steroids to see what his times would be, how much benefit he would have.
02:39:55.000And in the process of him filming this documentary, the guy who hooked him up, this guy Grigory from Russia, who was the head, Unbeknownst to him, of the Russian state-sponsored doping program.
02:40:07.000He thought he was getting a guy who was like the Russian USADA, that it was going to tell him what the cheaters use.
02:40:15.000But it turned out, along the way, everything got exposed, and he was like, look, I did this for 40 years, I dope everybody, everybody on drugs.
02:40:22.000And he said every fucking single athlete that was in the Olympics was on some shit.
02:40:27.000And then he explained how they did it, and everybody was like, what the fuck?
02:40:32.000They were going to pull the Russians, and then the other thing that he exposed is the collusion between WADA and the IOC, and that they all work for each other, and they switch fucking roles, and they go back and forth with each other, and that they're not going to punish the Russians.
02:40:46.000But what they're doing now is they kind of have to because of that movie.
02:40:50.000I mean, that movie literally changed the Olympics.
02:40:53.000I guess what I'm saying is when I did Bigger, Stronger, Faster, and we're going around talking to the experts, you know?
02:40:58.000A lot of the experts, they would mention Don Catlin, and I'd be like, what's up with Don Catlin?
02:41:02.000And they'd say, oh man, if you get him to talk, I mean, the sports world will just crumble.
02:44:14.000See, this all came from a tweet that I read from John Joseph from the Cro-Mags, who's a pretty rampant rabid vegan and a badass triathlete and very, very athletic guy, right?
02:44:28.000He was the one that said that, and I was like, wow, is that true?
02:44:31.000And he said that the guy died of a heart attack and that his wife was covering it up.
02:44:35.000So I went to look into it, and it's very difficult to say because even Snopes had it as inconclusive.
02:46:39.000That is interesting because his widow refused to allow an autopsy because this guy wasn't healthy and maybe wasn't even following his own advice.
02:48:43.000If I'm here, if I'm going to get an extra two years, but I'm going to be weak and feeble and not able to do anything, are those two years worth it?
02:48:52.000I feel that the best diet is the one you can follow.
02:48:55.000And utilizing a ketogenic style diet, utilizing intermittent fasting, I think it helps kill hunger.