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00:00:34.000It wasn't a lot, so that's why it was available.
00:00:36.000Isn't it crazy how many people do it now?
00:00:38.000Yeah, I think I was trying to figure out in my head how many do it a year and like how many races, 100 mile races there are there a month and then multiply it out.
00:00:47.000So probably five or six thousand, I'm guessing.
00:00:50.000Five or six thousand people have done it?
00:01:26.000I don't know what the fuck is going to miss America scrapping the swimsuit competition would no longer be judged on physical appearance It's literally a beauty contest.
00:01:39.000I mean, I gotta think it's like when Playboy decided to not have people nude Right that like and but here's the thing but no longer judging them on their physical appearance Well, what does that mean?
00:07:32.000Timer buzzed like it's been I've been here forever so I was gonna look and reset my thing I'm like that would be cheating let me keep going and I'm going and all the times going by and finally I'm like fuck is going on with my timer you know so I open my eyes and I look to reset my timer it's three minutes and 27 seconds no and I said to my I really thought it was 20 minutes I thought it was like hours,
00:07:53.000I mean like I never really sat in a room like with nothing going on and just closed my eyes alone and thought and time just stopped and I calculated how much time I have left like 15 days times 24 hours or 60 minutes and I said to myself like man I'm in trouble.
00:08:11.000This isn't like like this isn't what I'm on Gilligan's Island.
00:08:15.000This is a real like I can't get out of here and I had a really hard time with it.
00:08:59.000So they live on this property, and there are these 11 German shepherds.
00:09:03.000And at the end of the property, the only way off the property, were two mobile homes, unconnected to the monastery at the end of this road that leads up to the monastery.
00:09:12.000And both of those homes had German shepherds as well that were a little territorial.
00:09:18.000So there really was no way for me to escape.
00:09:22.000I ran 120 miles up and down the driveway while I was there because I couldn't leave the property.
00:09:29.000So you just timed yourself or paced yourself using an app or something like that?
00:09:33.000No, I said like 2,000 steps equals a mile.
00:13:25.000Everything, the way that they talk, their tone, their hand mannerisms, they just have mastered this and they have a deep connection with the dogs.
00:13:37.000Like I have a one-year-old golden retriever and he has different rules for different people and he knows who he can get away with, what with.
00:13:45.000My wife's mom has zero shot at controlling this dog.
00:15:25.000So Rainbow, this dog, would walk around and I would fucking go at him and jump and run and like try to, you know, whatever, get him to break his goal of going.
00:15:35.000They were kind of simulating a park scene or a city scene and making this dog not get distracted.
00:15:40.000So I would go nuts with a pork chop and this and throw whatever.
00:15:44.000The dog would just go unwavering from point A to point B. And the monk said to me at the end, he's like, it's just like life, man.
00:15:51.000He's like, if you have a goal, Just like Rainbow's goal is to get from A to B, you can't be distracted in your goal.
00:16:43.000If you say a dumb dog, there's dumb individual dogs, but I don't ever think of like, oh, that...
00:16:49.000There's some dogs that are like spastic, right?
00:16:53.000Like Jack Russell Terriers are kind of spastic, but that's because they were raised to kill rats, and they just have a high kill drive, and they're super hyper.
00:17:01.000But like, I can't think of a dog that's supposed to be stupid.
00:17:06.000But German Shepherds are generally supposed to be smart.
00:17:09.000This list says English Bulldogs, but I don't know if that's necessarily true.
00:17:56.000Yeah, my friend who trains them, It has a dog that's like he does police work and it's like a serious fucking dog and he'll attack like a thing if you're holding like a stick like on command and he jumps and one of the things he does he bites the stick and then two paws go right into your nuts and I don't think it's on purpose but damn it's an effective strategy like it's like bite and then nut stomp all in one maneuver right But those dogs are a
00:18:26.000dog that's sort of bred and designed for protection work and police work and stuff.
00:18:33.000They are, and they train their dogs as pets, so they didn't do any kind of, you know, police work or anything like that.
00:18:39.000So the eleven German Shepherds that were on the property were super well behaved, I mean like ridiculously well behaved.
00:18:46.000So when they train them, are they just training them to make sure that they're obedient, you know, they just listen, watch the house, bark at strangers, that kind of shit?
00:18:54.000Hand signals, obedient, you know, not jumping, but really that, you know, they know who's in control.
00:19:01.000So did these guys do that before they started running the monastery, or was it something that they decided to do while they had the monastery?
00:19:22.000And fell in love with the dog and ultimately when the dog passed away, the dog got killed, they wanted another dog and they went to a breeder and they got two dogs and they realized that once they bred an amazing puppy,
00:20:10.000So as an entrepreneur, it's almost like they're limited in their ambition.
00:20:15.000I think excess, you know, it's not like if they have excess money and revenue, it's not going to material things, but it's for the life and the extension of the monastery.
00:20:27.000So they would save it and put it away for taxes or what have you.
00:20:30.000Yeah, or they have, you know, they're in the hands of God.
00:20:32.000They don't have a lot of litters or they don't have a lot of puppies or they have no income.
00:21:05.000I've seen monks in movies and read articles and blogs, but I never—I didn't know much about it, about the culture, certainly about Russian Orthodox and the different factions and this and that.
00:21:17.000So I went up there with eyes wide open.
00:21:20.000But I went up there really just to detach and get away from feeling overloaded and feeling distracted.
00:21:27.000And man, I'm a father of four and I have a business and my wife has an entrepreneur, etc.
00:21:31.000And I just wanted to see like, you know, this has kind of been my journey.
00:21:36.000I learned best by diving into the unknown, just like I did with David and just as I've done in businesses and other things.
00:21:42.000It's just like I learned best by going into the unknown.
00:21:45.000So I didn't do a lot of research around them or how they made money or this or that.
00:25:58.000And then one day decided to give up all the worldly possessions and all of the trappings of civilization and move into the monastery.
00:26:08.000And I remember we met him for lunch one day.
00:26:13.000He'd also become a vegetarian, so he only ate vegetables.
00:26:16.000And we were all just hanging around, and he seemed oddly at peace.
00:26:20.000And it was so confusing to me, because at the time, I was, like, probably 20. And I just didn't know what the fuck was going on in the world.
00:26:41.000It made me nervous that he was wiser than me.
00:26:45.000It highlighted how fucked up I am, especially at 20. Life is so chaotic.
00:26:52.000You have no idea what the future holds for you, if it's going to be success or failure, if you're going to slip on every fucking banana peel you run across.
00:29:19.000There's the thing about the sensory deprivation, you know what it is, right?
00:29:22.000The thing that's most interesting about it is that in the absence of input, your brain is freer and you can make decisions better and think about things better because there's no input coming in.
00:29:33.000You don't think about it, but as we're sitting here...
00:29:45.000And in the absence of input, it frees up more resources for your brain.
00:29:49.000So, in a sense, what these monks you're saying are doing by having everything on a schedule, you don't have to think about anything, and there's nothing coming in.
00:29:58.000There's no Twitter, Facebook, all that jazz.
00:31:01.000I was making massive life lists, what I want to do.
00:31:04.000I became very aware of my relationship with time.
00:31:06.000I mean, when we think of relationships, we think of our relationships with our mom or our dad or our kids or this and that.
00:31:12.000But no one thinks of a relationship with time.
00:31:15.000When I'm turning 50, the average American lives to be 78 years old.
00:31:19.000So if I'm average, I hope I'm not, that means I got 28 years of life left.
00:31:24.000If you reverse engineer that, if you reverse engineer it, like I just climbed Mount Washington.
00:31:30.000There were no 70 year olds climbing Mount Washington.
00:31:33.000The actual years that you have left to be active and do the shit that we want to do, They shrink significantly as a percentage as you get older.
00:31:42.000So once you get aware of your relationship with time, everything shifts.
00:31:48.000I had a fundamental shift when I came home as it relates to my relationship with time and who I want to spend it with and what I want to do.
00:31:56.000And I want to put more on my plate of the stuff that I love to do with the people I love to do it with.
00:32:01.000And I started getting a lot of clarity around that when I wasn't getting bombarded With everything else.
00:33:30.000The main things, like my relationship with time and certain things of, you know, who I want to spend it with and what I want to do and continuing to build what I call my life resume.
00:33:40.000Doing these things that build up my, not my business resume, but my life resume.
00:33:45.000That's things that I know I want to do more of and that will never go away.
00:33:49.000So, you know, there's things that came out of it that will last forever.
00:33:55.000Like what kind of adjustments did you make when you came back?
00:34:51.000So I just started looking at stuff like that and became really aware when I'm in moments that are big moments to take it in and take note of it.
00:35:01.000So it has an impact on me and I appreciate it.
00:35:39.000But as far as my time, I made two really big changes.
00:35:43.000One changes, and I've kind of always been doing this, so I wouldn't necessarily say it was a change, but I take three hours a day for myself.
00:37:12.000You can get a lot of shit done if you keep moving for 24 hours.
00:37:16.000Even if you take three hours for yourself, if you get rid of the stuff that doesn't move the needle in the buckets that are most important to you, you can get a lot done.
00:38:41.000And I actually came home after that attempt, which was a year ago, and I was talking to my wife about it, and I posted it on Facebook, so everybody was blasting, did you make it?
00:38:53.000You know, Mount Washington's only about five miles to the top, 4.6 miles, just the elements and the weather that make it so hard.
00:40:00.000And he goes, I call it the Kevin rule.
00:40:04.000He goes, every year, I go on one trip a year with my college roommates.
00:40:10.000I've been doing this since I'm 21. And then once every two months, I take a weekend and I do something.
00:40:17.000I go camping, I run a marathon, I go hiking, I go to whatever, with my family or friends.
00:40:23.000And I said to myself, if I can't, going back to your question about time, if I can't take a weekend, Every eight weeks, once every two months, if I can't carve out a day or two to take some kind of adventure to put on my life resume or to collect a moment for me,
00:41:05.000So I just, again, it just became a real big clarity around like, man, I want to live with urgency and I want to do as much shit as I can and put as much on my plate of the stuff I love to do with the people I love in my life and have it on my resume.
00:41:20.000And that's how I want to live my life forward.
00:42:34.000I realized that I was watching two games, the college game on Saturday, fantasy football Sunday, I'm locked in, Sunday night game, Monday night, Thursday night, and I realized that if, at this point, if I live to be 85, 80, whatever, That would be 36,000 hours of football.
00:42:52.00036,000 hours of football that I'd be watching.
00:42:57.000I'd throw in some of the fights, throw in some of the other stuff.
00:43:00.000It's like I just took the plug out and I freed up these 36,000 hours.
00:43:06.000My wife said, what do you mean you're going to go live in the monastery?
00:44:24.000But, you know, those are kind of – everything else kind of gets a no.
00:44:29.000Like going to lunch to look at someone else's idea in a category I don't really know much about because they want to maybe get to me or they want my wife.
00:44:48.000When I was starting out as an entrepreneur, when I was 20 years old, you know, and I was cleaning kiddie pools and in the music business, I was doing all this stuff, I'd laugh at a lot of jokes that weren't funny.
00:46:59.000I think combined with the fact that for some reason, you know, I'm turning 50, it's fucking with me in a way that I didn't think it would.
00:47:07.000And I don't know how you, how old are you?
00:47:09.00050. Yeah, so I don't know if it's had the same impact on you, but like, you know, there's not a day that goes by where I don't say to myself, man, in 30 years you're turning 80. That's a way to look at it.
00:47:40.000Because that would be the worry, right?
00:47:41.000Like, if you're constantly worrying about, damn, 20 years, I'm going to be 70. 30 years, I'm going to be 80. If you keep doing that, like, there are people that look ahead too much and don't just...
00:47:52.000I've talked to people that are 20. Like, fuck, I can't believe I'm 20. I'm like, listen, motherfucker, you just turned 20, dude.
00:49:46.000And I just realized that there's an opportunity to write theme songs for all these professional sports teams, but I don't have a penny to go in the studio to do the demos to shop them to the team.
00:49:57.000So I go to this music guy and he says, I'll give you $10,000 to go and do these songs for 10% of everything you make for the rest of your life.
00:54:32.000The reason why these exploitation contracts work is because in the beginning you're just so desperate and what you have is what they don't have.
00:55:49.000They just figure out a way to grab people that are just, just getting popping, you know, and just signing, and then figured out a way to get in with these fucking streaming companies.
00:56:00.000Have you paid attention to any of that shit?
00:57:11.000Even books now, all these old publications, they never envisioned that there would be e-books and audiobooks and all these different distribution...
00:57:23.000I would imagine that audiobooks probably mirror the sales of regular books now.
00:57:28.000I mean, at least in my circle, I know so many people who just use audiobooks and they hardly ever read.
00:57:36.000And what they've essentially done is taken that commuter time that was just dead air and filled it up with books.
00:57:42.000When I did the Seale book, I couldn't believe how many people hit me about the audio.
00:57:48.000Because I did my own audiobook and I just couldn't...
00:58:38.000Now, when you're done with this book, and you get back from this monk thing, and you realize that this has made some sort of a fundamental shift in the way you live your life, and you put this book out, is there a real sense that people who read this book are going to get that from you?
00:58:57.000Are you aware that you're probably going to change the way a lot of people live their lives?
00:59:03.000I don't know if they'll change their lives, but I hope that it helps them look through things through a different lens and make their own decisions.
00:59:13.000One of the takeaways from the book isn't so much specific around the monastery.
00:59:18.000It's around this notion of building your life resume.
00:59:21.000You know, and just stepping into the unknown.
00:59:23.000Because for me, that's where I learned the best.
00:59:26.000I mean, I could get a traditional coach or go to seminars or experts, but I just don't learn.
01:00:21.000And I don't know why I just brought that up, but it's true.
01:00:26.000And so it's just kind of one of the themes around this urgency and creating memories, etc.
01:00:34.000Yeah, I think there's things like that sort of highlight that urgency that if you just live your life like at the same steady static pace Maybe sometimes you don't feel it as much.
01:00:46.000I'm sure after you did your 100-mile run, when it was over, it probably felt so good to relax.
01:00:55.000Well, first of all, for me, the pressure around completing the run.
01:01:02.000When I did the run, I raised millions of dollars for charity.
01:01:07.000And everyone in my world knew I was doing it.
01:01:10.000I gave myself 90 days to train for it.
01:02:14.000But you knew that you were at the halfway mark, roughly, and you could push through the rest.
01:02:20.000I knew that if I could get to 50 miles in 10 hours, I could basically, even injured, walk the rest in the allocated time.
01:02:30.000Now, after that was over, and after you did do that 100 miles, how much of a shift did that make in the way you thought about time and effort?
01:04:01.000What other areas of your life, man, are you under-indexing in?
01:04:05.000Like, okay, if your sales quota at Marquee Jet, my company, was 20 jet cards, is that because I knew I could get it and it was comfortable?
01:04:14.000Or should I be like, man, put me on the board for 40, fellas, this month.
01:07:37.000And when you did get done with that in the wheelchair for four days, how long did it take before your body felt normal, like your joints normalized and your hips and your knees?
01:08:58.000So what led you to be the fruitarian idea?
01:09:02.000I read a book called Fit for Life right before my first marathon.
01:09:06.000I was 21 or 22 years old, like looking for an edge.
01:09:10.000And in the book, it challenges the reader.
01:09:15.000One of the principles of the book is to only eat fruit until noon.
01:09:18.000We can talk about it, but it challenges the reader to try it for 10 days and then day 11 go back to your regular breakfast and see how you feel.
01:13:55.000Put it in one fucking big blender and blend it up.
01:13:58.000And on a scale of one to ten, with a ten being the Dalai Lama of happiness, and a one being a guy that's at zero, being someone that's at rock bottom, what's your happiness number?
01:14:36.000Because I think it's a management issue.
01:14:38.000I think a lot of what happiness is is a management issue.
01:14:41.000And decisions that you're making right now, like you could be in a shit state of mind right now, but you could make some decisions to adjust that, and over the next couple hours, you'll get to a much better place.
01:14:53.000And these constant management decisions, they waver in and out of your life on a daily basis.
01:14:58.000Like this idea that you could have a good mindset, then all of a sudden you'll be happy.
01:15:53.000And all I'm saying is, what's interesting about the test, though, if you do actually go through the process, for those that go through and get a number in their head or whatever, or do want to give themselves a grade, your brain automatically goes to a 10 and then subtracts the two or three things pop in that bring your happiness down.
01:16:11.000It's a great way to identify What's making you unhappy?
01:16:54.000Yeah, but this is something I've cultivated for a long time and avoided things that make me unhappy and figured out what those things are and been very rigid about eliminating them from my life.
01:17:07.000And one of the big ones is eliminating interactions with people that are negative.
01:18:06.000And you think about this energy and you think about this inspiration when you're doing other things.
01:18:11.000And it also sets in your mind that when you meet these exceptional people that move you, what are the qualities that they have?
01:18:20.000What are the characteristics that they possess?
01:18:23.000And those things become significant and important to you.
01:18:26.000Whereas if you live around a bunch of people that are complaining and bitching about everything, and they see the negative in everything, and they're always whining, those people are the opposite of that.
01:18:38.000They're the opposite of inspiration, and they're mud.
01:18:43.000It's like you're up to your ankles in mud.
01:19:07.000Listen, just do this and stop doing that and start doing this.
01:19:12.000And if you just work towards this, you could be successful.
01:19:14.000And then a week later, the guy's doing the same shit.
01:19:17.000You're like, okay, I'm wasting a significant amount of my energy on someone who doesn't want to waste any of their energy on themselves.
01:19:25.000Managing the community and the tribe that you're in, making sure that you're a good member of that tribe, that you're doing your part.
01:19:35.000There's a lot of cynicism in these days about inspiration and about motivation because there's a lot of fake shit.
01:19:44.000You can go on Instagram and you see a million of these Inspirational quote pages and they're run by people that are probably depressed You know you see a lot of people that are you know talking about how to get ahead in life But they're not really doing anything themselves.
01:19:59.000So there's a lot of cynicism involved in that but There's also sincerity in it and you can get if you just look at it with a pure heart and a pure mind you can get a lot of energy out of that and When you're around happy,
01:20:15.000inspirational people that are successful, it makes you feel better and you get inspired.
01:20:20.000And if you act on that inspiration, your life will be more fulfilled.
01:20:24.000And it's not just inspirational in terms of financial success, but in terms of doing difficult things, whether it's running 100 miles, it doesn't pay you a goddamn thing other than the wealth of the knowledge that you can push yourself to such an extreme.
01:20:39.000Or anything else, whether it's someone who becomes really good at playing chess, or someone who's really good at martial arts, or whatever it is.
01:20:46.000There's a great feeling in overcoming these difficult things, because life is never this just constant state of, I'm at a 9 all day, and when I'm with my wife, I hit 10. Yay!
01:21:04.000Like, you saying that you went to this monastery and felt all this angst about meditating and being alone and not having your phone and not having the input, but then when it comes out of it, then you have this reward.
01:21:19.000So you push through this, and you had these uncomfortable feelings, and you came out of those uncomfortable feelings with this newfound appreciation for time and this respect for...
01:21:31.000Your own existence in your own space and carving out three hours for yourself a day.
01:21:38.000It all comes from life lessons and the lessons are learned through struggle.
01:21:43.000And I think that there's a lot of people out there that think somehow or another you're going to get to some place where you're living in silk sheets and you're getting your toes done while someone's dropping grapes into your mouth.
01:22:05.000The human organism, the animal that we are, needs constant stimulation because it evolved trying to find food and escape enemies.
01:22:15.000And find shelter, escape nature, escape the elements, try to survive.
01:22:20.000And this is the great joy that you have in taking care of your children, that you can protect your children from the elements and the enemies and feed them.
01:22:27.000And it's also the great sadness that you see in losers.
01:22:31.000When I see a loser, I see some guy who's 43 years old, lives in his parents' basement, and he fucking hates the world.
01:22:39.000Man, this is a baby that somebody just gave shitty nutrients to, whether it's nutrients in the forms of food or in the form of...
01:22:48.000Thoughts and ideas and examples and this kid developed these horrible self-defeating patterns of behavior that have led them to this point where they're this middle-aged person with no future and no idea of how to get out of this rut and probably never will escape it and might just wind up sucking on a gun.
01:23:08.000This is the world that we live in today, and I think part of that world is because we have been fed this line of horseshit that you're supposed to seek comfort, and I don't think you are.
01:23:19.000I think you're supposed to seek lessons, and you're supposed to seek difficult tasks and accomplishments, and through those things, and through doing things, Things that are hard to do, even if it's just a fucking 90-minute hot yoga class.
01:24:29.000You evolved from the fucking hundreds of thousands of years of hunters and gatherers and people that were struggling.
01:24:35.000Those human reward systems are carved deeply into your DNA. And if you don't respect that, if you don't respect the mechanism of happiness and fulfillment and what you really need to do in order to feel satisfied in life...
01:24:49.000Camaraderie, love, family, friendship, struggle, testing yourself, learning, all those things are imperative.
01:24:58.000They're all a giant part of being a person.
01:25:20.000And I feel like, you know, as I'm listening to you talk about that, I'm literally going through like the last 10 years of my life, you know, and when I lived with David, when I went on The Modest, all these things, they're all about getting an edge and doing what you, you know, and it is, I think it's like part of being human.
01:25:36.000And that stuff makes me feel the most alive too, you know, like...
01:26:01.000You know, and you really see that in yoga class in particular for me because I'm not good at it.
01:26:07.000You know, so when I do a yoga class and I can hold a pose until the next, you know, you're holding these poses for a minute.
01:26:15.000If you could stand on one foot grabbing your other foot lifting it above your head and keep your arm out straight and you're balancing your foots on fire and your core is engaged but if you can get to the point where they say stop You feel like, wow, I didn't used to be able to do that.
01:26:31.000I used to be able to hold it for 10 seconds and then I would fall down.
01:26:34.000And then I'd have to start all over again and start from scratch.
01:26:37.000There's little improvements where you feel yourself getting a little better at something, whether it's jujitsu or anything else.
01:26:44.000Little improvements, I think, are what life is all about.
01:26:47.000And I think also they're a tool to feed the mind.
01:26:51.000Because I really believe the mind needs these little lessons.
01:28:46.000And I got up on the bar, and over the course of an hour or two, I did them.
01:28:51.000And that started our journey of like, you're about to go in a place where you've never been, motherfucker.
01:28:57.000I remember one day I was sitting on the couch in Connecticut where I was living at the time, and on the ticker on the TV, the emergency broadcast system came up.
01:29:41.000And he breaks the ice, a little hole in the ice with the boulder and then he takes his hand and he makes the hole a little bit bigger and then he jumps in.
01:29:47.000And then he points at me and he takes his finger and he signals for me to jump in.
01:29:52.000I'm not going in the fucking freezing cold water because my mother told me as a kid in Long Island, don't go anywhere near the frozen water.
01:29:59.000If you fall in, you have like a minute, you know?
01:30:16.000He goes, if your skin touches the ice, it's going to stick to the ice like the kid in Christmas Story, his tongue that sticks to the pole, you know?
01:30:23.000So he puts my shoes back on my hands and picks my ass up and I put my socks on or whatever.
01:30:29.000And I bear crawl out of the ice and I run up and I see my wife looking out the window as I'm running into the house.
01:30:36.000And we come in and she says to Goggins, you know, like, what's the medical benefit of jumping in a frozen lake?
01:30:42.000And he said to her, there's no medical benefit.
01:30:44.000She's like, this is what your husband signed up for.
01:30:47.000You know, he's like, I want to see how far he's willing to go to get to his goals.
01:30:50.000And I was like, fuck, this is going to be some 30 days, man.
01:36:20.000I remember asking him to come and I remember him saying to me, if you're crazy enough to ask a guy like me to come live with you, motherfucker, I'm crazy enough to come.
01:36:33.000Three days later, he shows up with one bag.
01:36:35.000Knowing him, that is exactly what it would sound like if he said it with those crazy eyes.
01:40:30.000And I was like, in the middle of work, I would like get down, take off my, you know, whatever I was wearing.
01:40:36.000I'd get like my boxers or whatever, like just to get, and I would do as many burpees as I could in 10 minutes and be soaking wet and I'd walk into my next meeting.
01:40:45.000And everybody knew he was, you know, like he was, that was part of the thing.