The Joe Rogan Experience - June 18, 2018


Joe Rogan Experience #1132 - Kyle Kingsbury


Episode Stats

Length

3 hours and 14 minutes

Words per Minute

190.87875

Word Count

37,180

Sentence Count

3,591

Misogynist Sentences

114

Hate Speech Sentences

69


Summary

In this episode, the guys talk about the latest in the Trump administration, the upcoming mid-term elections, and much, much more. They also discuss the immigration crisis in the border patrol and immigration detention centers, and why they think Donald Trump is going to win re-election in 2020. Also, they give their predictions on who's going to be the next president and why it's a good idea to vote for the other guy. Don't miss it! Logo by Courtney DeKorte. Theme by Mavus White. Music by PSOVOD and tyops. All rights reserved. Used by permission. The opinions and views expressed here are our own, not those of our companies, unless otherwise specified. We do not own the rights to any music used in this podcast. This podcast is not affiliated with any of our labels, the music used is our own and does not represent the views and opinions expressed by our labels. Thank you for any amount you can afford to support our content. You can support us by becoming a patron, patron, supporter, listener or supporter. If you like what we produce, please consider pledging a small monthly or monthly support by clicking the link below. We are a supporter of our content, and we will make sure to provide you with the best quality and support the best listening experience possible. in the future of the podcast. Thank you. of course, we do not charge you the best possible quality of the content we can be provided to you, not less than $5/ $5 or $10/ $10 or $15/ $20/ month, $50 or $50/ month and we can you choose to support us in perpetration? We appreciate your support is greatly appreciated! Thanks! We really appreciate the support we get from you, the support is much appreciated and we appreciate it, we really appreciate it. -Maggie and we really do appreciate the love and support we receive. -- Thank you, we truly appreciate it greatly. XOXO - Thank you so much, thank you! -Drew and Jon and Matt, Sarah, Sarah and Kelsi -Alyssa, Sarah & Kelsy and the rest of the boys. Love ya'll. xoxo -Jon and Gorms -Sue, John & Glynis -


Transcript

00:00:11.000 When it comes to defending America, it is not enough to merely have an American presence in space.
00:00:18.000 We must have American dominance in space.
00:00:22.000 So important.
00:00:24.000 Very importantly, I'm hereby directing the Department of Defense and Pentagon To immediately begin the process necessary to establish a Space Force as the sixth branch of the Armed Forces.
00:00:42.000 That's a big statement.
00:00:43.000 We are going to have the Air Force and we are going to have the Space Force, separate but equal.
00:00:52.000 It is going to be something so important.
00:00:55.000 General Dunford, If you would carry that assignment out, I would be very greatly honored.
00:01:03.000 Look at Mike Pence.
00:01:05.000 Mike Pence has this look on his face like, I'm going to be the president.
00:01:10.000 This motherfucker's gone completely crazy, and I'm gonna be the president next.
00:01:14.000 That's his nod of approval.
00:01:15.000 Look at his face.
00:01:16.000 He's got the face of a guy who knows he's going to be the president.
00:01:19.000 Like, if you were about to be awarded something, like if there was some, uh, something you were about to get, and you're like, wow, I worked my whole life for this, and here it is.
00:01:28.000 I'm gonna get that thing right now.
00:01:30.000 I'm gonna be the fucking president.
00:01:34.000 He must be like, this guy is never gonna last eight years, and for sure he's gonna win again.
00:01:42.000 I'm gonna be the president.
00:01:44.000 So you think for sure he wins again because, is that because whoever the Democrats decide to put in is gonna be an equal turd sandwich again?
00:01:54.000 You're a super smart dude, but you're also a brute.
00:01:57.000 You're a big giant savage motherfucker, right?
00:01:59.000 So how many people have underestimated you because you're a big giant savage motherfucker?
00:02:04.000 Plenty.
00:02:04.000 And talk stupid to you?
00:02:05.000 And act like you were a moron?
00:02:07.000 I'd say equal street fights, two fights in the UFC. Yeah.
00:02:11.000 There's a lot of people, right?
00:02:12.000 And just people in general.
00:02:14.000 Like, they'll get snotty.
00:02:15.000 I'll take Stevie.
00:02:16.000 Yeah, I'm good.
00:02:17.000 I'm going black.
00:02:18.000 I'm looking like my men.
00:02:21.000 But I think there's a certain part of us that might be doing that with him.
00:02:27.000 I don't think he is...
00:02:29.000 I think he's really good at winning.
00:02:32.000 This is not an endorsement of him.
00:02:38.000 No caveats necessary.
00:02:40.000 I'm horrified by this immigration policy of separating children from their parents.
00:02:45.000 I think that's subhuman.
00:02:47.000 His wife came out and said that was bullshit.
00:02:49.000 Yeah, his wife's an immigrant, bro.
00:02:50.000 His wife barely speaks English.
00:02:52.000 It's chaos, right?
00:02:53.000 It's crazy.
00:02:54.000 I hate...
00:02:55.000 I hate all that stuff.
00:02:56.000 These are just families.
00:02:57.000 They're just people who love each other.
00:02:59.000 You've got to keep them together.
00:03:00.000 If they break the law, you keep them together.
00:03:02.000 Get them out of here if you want.
00:03:03.000 I mean, if you want to send them back to wherever they came from, if you're hell-bent on that.
00:03:07.000 But taking them from their kids is subhuman.
00:03:10.000 I mean, it's beyond.
00:03:12.000 It's not us.
00:03:13.000 It's not what we're doing in 2018. That aside.
00:03:16.000 All that aside.
00:03:17.000 He's probably going to fucking win again, man.
00:03:20.000 I think he's probably going to win again.
00:03:21.000 I think he gets in these confrontations with people, and they think he's adult.
00:03:26.000 I don't think he's adult.
00:03:28.000 I think there's no way he could be as successful as he's been.
00:03:31.000 I know he's had ups and downs and shit like that, but like...
00:03:38.000 Just the way he was able to dismantle all those guys in those Republican debates.
00:03:41.000 He tore him the fuck apart.
00:03:43.000 Tore him apart.
00:03:44.000 They had no business.
00:03:45.000 They had no business doing that with him.
00:03:47.000 They just were too emotionally tied up in his responses.
00:03:51.000 There was so much negativity and energy.
00:03:54.000 It was all this anxiety.
00:03:57.000 Like a fight where a guy's in full panic.
00:04:00.000 You know, you've seen street fights, especially, guys just go into full panic.
00:04:04.000 Or even just talking shit in the schoolyard.
00:04:06.000 You know, like, one guy's getting bullied, bullies got the crowd watching him, and the other guy's like, well, but, but, you're, you're, fuck you, man.
00:04:13.000 You know, and everybody's like, oh, that ain't gonna work.
00:04:15.000 You know?
00:04:16.000 That's kind of, that's what the rest of them look like.
00:04:17.000 Ted Cruz, that's what they all look like.
00:04:19.000 He's just been doing this his whole life.
00:04:21.000 He's been talking shit his whole life.
00:04:24.000 You know?
00:04:26.000 And he's got a lot of fucking supporters.
00:04:29.000 And if the economy keeps doing good, man...
00:04:32.000 It's gonna be a hard sell to put some guy in there like Bernie Sanders who, you know, all the right-wing people think just wants to give away all your money.
00:04:40.000 Give away all your money to welfare brats.
00:04:42.000 Even the left was protecting against that.
00:04:44.000 Yeah.
00:04:45.000 Right?
00:04:45.000 Because there's still money on the left.
00:04:47.000 I should point out, I know jack shit about politics.
00:04:50.000 This is very important to point out.
00:04:52.000 Anybody that ever says you shouldn't be talking about politics, that's crazy.
00:04:55.000 Because anybody should be able to talk about whatever they want.
00:04:58.000 What I shouldn't do is give anybody the impression that I know what I'm talking about, because I definitely don't.
00:05:04.000 Like, if you had to get me to explain to you how Congress and the Senate works and how long the terms are and what they have to do, that'd be a sloppy-ass fucking conversation, right?
00:05:15.000 I'm no political expert, you know?
00:05:18.000 Mike Pence is no MMA expert.
00:05:21.000 You know what I mean?
00:05:22.000 He probably could tell you who Conor McGregor is.
00:05:25.000 That's probably like, we have equal knowledge in government.
00:05:29.000 Yeah.
00:05:29.000 But still, he might win.
00:05:31.000 Just in terms of games.
00:05:33.000 He definitely could, yeah.
00:05:34.000 It's a game.
00:05:35.000 He definitely could.
00:05:36.000 Look, what is it?
00:05:37.000 It's a fucking game.
00:05:38.000 It's a game.
00:05:39.000 It's a very high stakes, gigantic game where you're trying to win a popularity contest.
00:05:45.000 He won.
00:05:46.000 What do you think of The Rock potentially becoming president one day?
00:05:49.000 That shit blew up, and I was like, wait a minute now.
00:05:52.000 If you look at the current state, and it is a popularity contest, and we want somebody who can literally rock the mic, has the gift of gab, but then you also have somebody who's doing humanitarian shit, is...
00:06:06.000 As famous as fucking anyone has ever been.
00:06:08.000 Highest paid dude in Hollywood.
00:06:10.000 He's so nice, too.
00:06:12.000 Yeah, he's a nice guy.
00:06:13.000 You look at that guy and you don't question his character.
00:06:16.000 No, he's a sweetheart.
00:06:18.000 Yeah, he's a sweetheart.
00:06:20.000 You meet him in real life, he's like that, too.
00:06:22.000 Oh, he's a big motherfucker.
00:06:23.000 Big giant motherfucker.
00:06:25.000 I think he could do it.
00:06:26.000 He could win.
00:06:27.000 He could win.
00:06:28.000 Especially if he has Oprah as his VP. And I'm not even fucking around.
00:06:32.000 Not saying it's a good idea, folks.
00:06:33.000 Not what I'm saying.
00:06:35.000 I'm just saying, you don't think that The Rock and Oprah could win?
00:06:38.000 But who would be, women would get super pissed off if The Rock was the president and Oprah was VP. Oprah would have to say, look, I'm busy.
00:06:46.000 She's potentially next in line.
00:06:48.000 That's not a bad thing.
00:06:49.000 She's Mike Pence, nodding in approval.
00:06:51.000 But a lot of people would want her to be president.
00:06:54.000 Oprah to be the first female president to counter like the the first celebrity president being Trump Oprah counters that with the first female celebrity president See, that's a big win.
00:07:06.000 Would The Rock be VP in that situation?
00:07:08.000 It's tough to get The Rock to take a fucking backseat.
00:07:11.000 Yeah, I don't know about that The Rock is He's The Rock.
00:07:18.000 It's tough to get him to take a backseat.
00:07:22.000 It would be fascinating to see what happens next.
00:07:26.000 That's what's going to be, I mean, how we're going to try to play this out, how people are going to play this out, the popularity contest aspect of it.
00:07:32.000 Because it's just, okay, if it really devolves into that, you know, it's like, and here's the other thing.
00:07:39.000 How much of his regulations are helping?
00:07:45.000 Well, and what do we do now that has really fucked up, maybe permanent consequences to the earth?
00:07:52.000 That's true too, right?
00:07:54.000 But what stuff have they implemented other than I know they did offshore drilling, right?
00:08:00.000 That concerned a lot of people.
00:08:02.000 And it was explained better to me about the monuments and the private land.
00:08:10.000 I've read a bunch of different, and public land rather, I've read a bunch of different takes on that.
00:08:16.000 And essentially what they did is bring it back to where it was before the Obama administration changed it.
00:08:23.000 So it was listed a certain way, and then when the Obama administration changed it, they felt that was an overstep.
00:08:32.000 Don't know why and it doesn't seem to be They haven't started any like mineral drills or oil drills or anything in these areas.
00:08:42.000 I don't know what they're doing I don't know.
00:08:44.000 I don't know if they're really just trying to deregulate things more They feel like the government overstepped their boundaries or if they really have nefarious ideas They're trying to like figure out a way to get some oil out of a salmon River Yeah, man, I mean there was that one place we've discussed it before Up in Alaska where a lot of people were concerned that there was going to be some drilling that takes place near where salmon live.
00:09:09.000 Like, close enough that if it fucked up, it could destroy this river.
00:09:13.000 When it fucks up.
00:09:15.000 That's probably the best way to say it, right?
00:09:17.000 Because if we don't do anything about it, like, say if you put a pipeline in the earth, and you pump oil through it, and we don't do anything, we just leave it there.
00:09:25.000 Just leave it there.
00:09:26.000 And we don't, you know, we don't visit it for 5,000 years.
00:09:32.000 What's that gonna be like?
00:09:34.000 So what does that mean?
00:09:35.000 It means you gotta keep fixing it?
00:09:37.000 Okay, so you put a hole, you put a giant tube through the earth and you're pumping toxic ooze out of this tube.
00:09:45.000 And sometimes it gets into rivers and it fucking kills everything.
00:09:47.000 And you want to run this fucking...
00:09:50.000 You wanna run this tube under the river?
00:09:52.000 Okay.
00:09:53.000 And then what are you gonna do?
00:09:54.000 Like, how many every year?
00:09:56.000 Every five years?
00:09:57.000 How often are you checking?
00:09:59.000 And when do you replace shit?
00:10:01.000 How long do those tubes last?
00:10:02.000 I don't know.
00:10:03.000 They gotta check it out.
00:10:04.000 I almost got into that.
00:10:06.000 What happens if there's an earthquake?
00:10:09.000 And those tubes break?
00:10:12.000 Fuck city.
00:10:13.000 What?
00:10:14.000 How does that work?
00:10:15.000 I don't know jack shit about how they pump the oil out.
00:10:19.000 Do you?
00:10:19.000 What were you going to say?
00:10:22.000 Well, it's a weird thing if we know for sure they're going to one day break.
00:10:28.000 Like, we're making a toxic pipeline.
00:10:30.000 We know for sure the Earth's going to just absorb it, right?
00:10:34.000 Everything fucking erodes.
00:10:35.000 Everything.
00:10:36.000 Have you seen them show a five-year depiction of what would happen to our bridges if we stopped painting them?
00:10:41.000 Yeah, I have.
00:10:42.000 Yeah, it looks like it happens overnight.
00:10:44.000 Wasn't there a show about this called Life After Humans or something like that?
00:10:50.000 Yeah.
00:10:50.000 Was that on like Nat Geo or Discovery, something like that?
00:10:52.000 Something like that.
00:10:53.000 Yeah.
00:10:53.000 There's a bunch of spots, particularly, look at this.
00:10:57.000 Southern California, deadliest quake may have been caused by oil drilling.
00:11:01.000 Jesus Christ.
00:11:02.000 1933. What?
00:11:03.000 Doesn't Oklahoma now have a ton of earthquakes from fracking?
00:11:07.000 Yeah.
00:11:08.000 But how could they know this?
00:11:10.000 Because earthquakes happen out here.
00:11:11.000 I wonder how they know this.
00:11:15.000 The study, written by two leading U.S. Geological Survey scientists in Pasadena, shout out to Pasadena, and be published in the Bulletin of Seismic Society of America on Tuesday, also suggests that three other earthquakes, including magnitude 5.0 earthquakes in 1920 in Inglewood and 1929 in Whittier,
00:11:36.000 may have also been linked to oil drilling.
00:11:39.000 Whoa.
00:11:41.000 I don't know.
00:11:43.000 Maybe.
00:11:43.000 Maybe we live in California.
00:11:46.000 Right?
00:11:47.000 Both.
00:11:47.000 Maybe both.
00:11:48.000 Maybe it gave a little bump, but it was happening anyway.
00:11:51.000 Fuck knows.
00:11:52.000 But it is...
00:11:53.000 It's weird.
00:11:55.000 That's a weird one.
00:11:56.000 The weirdest one for sure is nuclear power plants.
00:11:59.000 That's the weirdest one.
00:12:00.000 Because they can't shut him off.
00:12:02.000 When you had Shane Smith on, he was talking about that kid that made a nuclear reactor in his garage at like 17 years old.
00:12:08.000 I think he's like 22 now or 23. Works for the government.
00:12:11.000 What did they do?
00:12:12.000 They tracked him by the materials that he was purchasing?
00:12:14.000 Well, he shut down a fucking city block.
00:12:17.000 When he turned, but he was doing like fusion.
00:12:20.000 He could do, what was that?
00:12:22.000 He could refine uranium.
00:12:24.000 Oh, Jesus.
00:12:25.000 Like he knew how to fucking mine it, get all the materials.
00:12:27.000 And he's 17?
00:12:28.000 That was at 17. He's 22 now, or 23. That's insane.
00:12:32.000 But he can take the used reactors and basically like a handheld battery, like you'd have on an RC car, that can power an entire city for 10,000 years, each one of those.
00:12:43.000 What?
00:12:44.000 That's what Smith was saying.
00:12:45.000 That's not for me.
00:12:46.000 I know.
00:12:46.000 I'm saying though, that's what Shane Smith was saying.
00:12:48.000 This guy has that technology and of course...
00:12:51.000 To get a little Eddie Bravo-ish, there's big companies that don't want to see that happen, but he's supported by Elon Musk and other other big-time dudes that want to see it happen.
00:13:01.000 Well, here would be the thing.
00:13:03.000 I don't know if once those nuclear reactors get up and running, like the old-style ones, like Fukushima, I don't know if they have a way to shut those down.
00:13:16.000 Ironically enough, I think they need power to shut them down.
00:13:20.000 Wasn't that like a big part of the problem with Fukushima?
00:13:22.000 Where they couldn't cool it?
00:13:24.000 They couldn't keep it cool?
00:13:26.000 Dude, they can't shut them off.
00:13:28.000 Like, that is the craziest...
00:13:30.000 They've only had them for...
00:13:31.000 If you stop and think about the amount of time humans have been alive.
00:13:35.000 It's only been like...
00:13:36.000 50 years?
00:13:39.000 60 years?
00:13:40.000 Since, like, nuclear powers everywhere?
00:13:42.000 Like, what has it been the year?
00:13:44.000 The bomb was dropped in, what was that, 45?
00:13:47.000 Is that 1945?
00:13:48.000 I don't know.
00:13:49.000 Before my time.
00:13:51.000 When do you think the bomb was dropped?
00:13:52.000 Was it 45?
00:13:54.000 Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
00:13:55.000 I think that's right, but I was looking up that they shut down power plants in Florida when the hurricane went through last year.
00:14:01.000 Nuclear power plants?
00:14:02.000 Yeah, I think new ones they can.
00:14:04.000 I don't think they could shut down the Fukushima one.
00:14:06.000 Or I think it was just damaged by the water so badly that whatever their shutdown thing didn't work.
00:14:14.000 But there's no way to shut it down now.
00:14:16.000 Now it's a fucking total meltdown disaster.
00:14:20.000 I mean, they've tried to come up with all sorts of ways to store this shit.
00:14:25.000 I think one of them was dig a giant hole, pour all the waste in there, and keep it frozen.
00:14:30.000 That doesn't sound good.
00:14:32.000 Sounds like a really bad idea.
00:14:34.000 They're gonna put it in like this giant vat and they were gonna have this vat like super cooled to some like ridiculous Low degree and do something.
00:14:45.000 Correct me if I'm wrong.
00:14:46.000 This sounds like I'm making this up I bet Paul Stamets could come up with a way to fix that.
00:14:51.000 How would you fix that?
00:14:52.000 Mushrooms eat all the nuclear waste?
00:14:54.000 Dude, he did that.
00:14:55.000 He had the TED Talk, Six Ways Mushrooms Will Save the World.
00:14:58.000 And was that one of his?
00:14:59.000 One of them was oyster mushrooms eating away oil spills.
00:15:02.000 So he fucking has like three giant vats of toxic waste.
00:15:07.000 I wouldn't say toxic, like garbage.
00:15:09.000 And they're all coated in oil.
00:15:12.000 And he does different things to two of them.
00:15:14.000 And then on the third one, he puts oyster mushroom spores in there.
00:15:17.000 And they cover them, and the other two just stink to fucking hell.
00:15:21.000 Like, they get worse over time.
00:15:23.000 Wow.
00:15:23.000 The oyster mushrooms grow, and they grow black as the oil starts to be absorbed by them.
00:15:28.000 Then they break down every single carbon in the oil until eventually the oyster mushroom becomes white again, and it's fucking edible.
00:15:35.000 What?
00:15:36.000 Completely breaks it down.
00:15:37.000 And these are giant oyster mushrooms.
00:15:40.000 Like, just fucking massive.
00:15:42.000 Dude, you're gonna get BP cocky.
00:15:45.000 Yeah.
00:15:45.000 They're gonna get cocky.
00:15:47.000 Like, look, we spell it.
00:15:48.000 We got some fucking mushrooms.
00:15:50.000 We're good, dude.
00:15:51.000 We're good, dude.
00:15:52.000 Yeah, give us three months.
00:15:54.000 Damn, could you imagine a giant oil spill out in the ocean, and then these scientists drop, like, billions of spores?
00:16:02.000 What is this, James?
00:16:02.000 I don't know.
00:16:03.000 That might not work in the ocean.
00:16:04.000 But could you imagine if they did do it, and it did work, and you see these fucking building-sized mushrooms just sucking oil out of the ocean?
00:16:14.000 That'd be awesome.
00:16:15.000 It would be crazy!
00:16:15.000 And then they turn white, and they become edible.
00:16:19.000 And they just gotta figure out how to do that with psilocybin and we're golden.
00:16:22.000 Wow!
00:16:23.000 Yeah, that would be an easy fix.
00:16:26.000 To find some way to blend the two of them together.
00:16:29.000 Don't you think?
00:16:30.000 A little crossbreed?
00:16:31.000 Could they do that?
00:16:31.000 I know they do that with plants, right?
00:16:33.000 They gotta be able to do that.
00:16:35.000 How do they do that with plants?
00:16:37.000 You know what someone told me that blew me away?
00:16:40.000 That they were making pistachio trees.
00:16:47.000 And they were binding them somehow or another to avocado trees.
00:16:52.000 And they were making them grow together to make a sturdier branch structure.
00:16:59.000 And I went, what?
00:17:00.000 You can do that?
00:17:01.000 You can mix trees?
00:17:02.000 I know here they have mixed trees, but they're from the same...
00:17:07.000 Phylum?
00:17:08.000 I don't know if that's right.
00:17:09.000 They're close enough genetically related, but you'd have like one base of the tree that has the roots, and then different branches on that tree grow different fruit.
00:17:17.000 And you can have four different fruit styles on one tree, like peaches, plums, apricots, all from one tree.
00:17:25.000 Wow, dude.
00:17:28.000 I had no idea.
00:17:29.000 You can buy that shit at Costco.
00:17:30.000 I believe you.
00:17:31.000 I had no idea, though.
00:17:32.000 I would have assumed that...
00:17:34.000 I would assume that, like, a tomato has to be in a tomato tree.
00:17:38.000 You know, you can't splice a tomato tree to an apple tree.
00:17:42.000 Tomato might not work, but as far as fruit trees...
00:17:44.000 It would be cool, though, to do that.
00:17:46.000 Maybe you could do that with tomatoes.
00:17:47.000 Maybe you could have beefsteak on one side and cherry on the other.
00:17:51.000 Yeah, right.
00:17:52.000 It's possible.
00:17:52.000 Have it all mixed up together.
00:17:54.000 Mm-hmm.
00:17:55.000 It's just, what a strange life form plants are.
00:18:00.000 They're a little bizarre, compared to us, this thing that lives alongside of us.
00:18:06.000 Cleans our air for us.
00:18:08.000 Cleans our air.
00:18:09.000 Like, New York without Central Park would be so much grosser probably, right?
00:18:13.000 Yeah, 100%.
00:18:14.000 Have to be.
00:18:15.000 Like all the carbon in the air, carbon dioxide, all the fucking, just all the people breathing.
00:18:21.000 Everyone around you, there's so many people.
00:18:24.000 Everyone just breathing, you know?
00:18:25.000 You're in like a soup of people breathing on the subway and in buildings and, you know, people are so jammed next to each other while they're walking by.
00:18:34.000 They're just breathing each other's air.
00:18:37.000 That is such a weird way that people have decided to live.
00:18:41.000 Yeah, it is weird.
00:18:42.000 We were just out there for product development.
00:18:44.000 I get to go out to different conferences and shit.
00:18:47.000 So we went out to Secaucus, New Jersey, and they're like a giant supplement conference where they have...
00:18:55.000 It's basically like people that do the science, they figure out something really cool, but they're not big enough name to take it to the masses.
00:19:01.000 So we come in, along with other companies, we look for different things that are backed by science, piece it all together and create something new.
00:19:08.000 So we're doing that by day, and then we head over to New York by night.
00:19:12.000 And it was cool, but it was like...
00:19:14.000 It's a fucking madhouse.
00:19:16.000 It's absolutely insane to think that people live on that tiny little island.
00:19:20.000 They love it.
00:19:22.000 Yeah, it definitely buzzes.
00:19:23.000 It's got its own fucking energy, for sure.
00:19:26.000 For sure, for sure.
00:19:27.000 And it's a little hostile.
00:19:30.000 There's a hostility to that.
00:19:32.000 The comedy there, it sort of exemplifies that.
00:19:37.000 New York comedy has always been some of the best comedy in the country.
00:19:40.000 Like, always.
00:19:41.000 It's always been some of the best comics coming out of New York.
00:19:44.000 And a lot of them are, like, super hyper-aggressive.
00:19:48.000 Like, a lot of them, like, real insult comedians.
00:19:52.000 Like, that kind of, you know, that style of shitting on each other.
00:19:56.000 It's like, they're aggressively like that.
00:19:59.000 But it's, like, Patrice O'Neill was probably, like, the best at it.
00:20:02.000 He was so fucking good.
00:20:03.000 He was so fucking good.
00:20:05.000 He exemplifies that New York style of, what the fuck are you wearing, man?
00:20:09.000 What the fuck is that shirt?
00:20:11.000 And then it would just be a tack.
00:20:13.000 And it was beautiful.
00:20:14.000 It was beautiful.
00:20:15.000 But it was fun.
00:20:16.000 It was all in good fun and playful.
00:20:19.000 But that New York style...
00:20:22.000 It's like a harder style, like a more aggressive style.
00:20:25.000 Yeah, even families talk to each other differently there.
00:20:27.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:20:28.000 A lot more shit talking.
00:20:29.000 Well, you know, I've tried to figure this out myself because my grandparents were immigrants, but I figured the way I was thinking it is like if you really thought about the kind of people that were taking a chance to come across the ocean and get here in like 1920,
00:20:47.000 These were wild, desperate people.
00:20:50.000 This was a different kind of human.
00:20:53.000 They're a wilder type of human being.
00:20:56.000 And then to go from that wild type of human being to a regular person in 2018, it's only been a couple of generations.
00:21:04.000 Those places is where the people stayed.
00:21:07.000 So the people landed there first.
00:21:09.000 And then all the Polish and the Jewish and the Italian and the Puerto Ricans and all these different fucking ethnic groups just piled in together, just buzzing.
00:21:20.000 And a lot of people went, let's go west.
00:21:22.000 Let's fucking go west.
00:21:24.000 And they landed over here.
00:21:27.000 And this is why California is quite a bit more mellow, quite a bit more laid back.
00:21:33.000 And even the comedy, the comedians are more friendly.
00:21:37.000 But there is a great roast battle scene up here, too.
00:21:40.000 They do those roast battle shows.
00:21:42.000 Those things are pretty goddamn good.
00:21:43.000 I love the roasts.
00:21:45.000 They get nasty with each other.
00:21:47.000 You guys sit in the back of the Comedy Store and talk shit, right?
00:21:50.000 Yeah, we talk shit to each other.
00:21:51.000 But it's fun.
00:21:52.000 It's practice.
00:21:53.000 It's like we're making other comedians laugh.
00:21:55.000 That'd be awesome, though, to be a fly on the wall watching a bunch of comedians just talk shit to each other, not even worried about other people, not trying to make anybody laugh but themselves.
00:22:03.000 We all talk shit unless Joey's around.
00:22:05.000 Then when Joey's around, just try to get him riled up.
00:22:10.000 When Joey's around, my main goal is try to get him angry about something and just hear him go off.
00:22:16.000 And that's when the magic happens.
00:22:18.000 It's got to be something.
00:22:19.000 You got to bring up some fucking band he doesn't like or some food that's bullshit.
00:22:25.000 Next thing you know, he's throwing his arms back and he's fucking full.
00:22:29.000 Somebody orders the ranch sauce with their salad?
00:22:31.000 Yeah.
00:22:32.000 With chicken wings?
00:22:33.000 With chicken wings, yeah.
00:22:34.000 Just that one statement, it's blue cheese with wings or go fuck your mother.
00:22:41.000 And it's just the way he says it, too.
00:22:44.000 So when we're in the back and Joey's back there, we just let Joey rant.
00:22:47.000 We just try to get him riled up.
00:22:50.000 I mean, we'll have conversations with him if he just wants to have a conversation.
00:22:53.000 But half the time, it's like a game of, you know, hanging around with the funniest guy ever.
00:22:59.000 If you get that guy to laugh and get that guy to make everybody laugh.
00:23:03.000 Just fucking poke and prod.
00:23:05.000 Yeah, just have fun with them.
00:23:06.000 But he would always do that.
00:23:07.000 Like, no one could figure that out.
00:23:08.000 We'd do these gigs in the road.
00:23:09.000 And right before Joey would go on stage, he'd get mad at us.
00:23:13.000 He'd get mad at us for whatever reason.
00:23:15.000 He goes, you guys, with this fucking laptop and this bullshit and the fucking green room.
00:23:19.000 It's the fucking green room.
00:23:20.000 Let the green room be the green room.
00:23:23.000 What are you going to do?
00:23:23.000 Are you going to show him your dick?
00:23:25.000 Are you going to do it?
00:23:25.000 And he would go into this thing, like, how deep are you going to get into this fucking internet life?
00:23:30.000 Let these fucking people behind the scenes just go off.
00:23:33.000 And they were like, why is Joey so mad?
00:23:36.000 I'm like, he's getting fired up to go on stage.
00:23:38.000 That's what he does.
00:23:38.000 Comes back, he's not mad at you.
00:23:40.000 He just decides, like, this is what it's going to be.
00:23:43.000 Yeah, some poor bastard's like, I'm just trying to do some emails.
00:23:46.000 I'm just streaming on YouTube.
00:23:47.000 What's his deal?
00:23:48.000 What the fuck is this streaming?
00:23:51.000 What the fuck is it?
00:23:52.000 What the fuck are these kids doing with the fucking streaming?
00:23:54.000 And the next thing you know, boom, bang!
00:23:56.000 Everybody's on the floor, dying, laughing.
00:23:59.000 You would get fired up and then you'd go on stage already at 10, you know?
00:24:03.000 It's a really smart thing.
00:24:05.000 Just get mad, just get annoyed right before you go on stage.
00:24:07.000 Just get annoyed at anything.
00:24:09.000 What kind of fucking mustard is this?
00:24:11.000 Joe Rogan, what kind of fucking mustard is this?
00:24:14.000 Back in Jersey, they had the mustards with the seeds.
00:24:18.000 That fucking brown, dirty mustard.
00:24:20.000 It looked like it came out of someone's asshole.
00:24:22.000 And he would just, whatever it was, he would just start ranting about it and get angry, and then he'd go on stage like at 10. So it could be anything, man.
00:24:31.000 It could be a fucking TV show that Tahani doesn't like.
00:24:33.000 It could be the pair of sneakers you're wearing.
00:24:36.000 It could be, I don't like the way you're doing your notes.
00:24:39.000 He yelled at me once for having a notebook.
00:24:43.000 I came to the improv and I had a fucking notebook.
00:24:45.000 And he goes, what are you doing with the fucking notebook?
00:24:47.000 And I go, that's why I keep my notes.
00:24:49.000 And he's like, what do you want everybody to know you're writing?
00:24:51.000 Carry this fucking notebook around.
00:24:55.000 You're doing it to show the world that you take your job serious.
00:24:58.000 Some people do.
00:25:00.000 But I mean, that's better than not doing it.
00:25:02.000 You know, even if you're writing to fake that you're writing all the time, that's definitely better than not writing.
00:25:10.000 Carry that notebook, man.
00:25:12.000 Encourage notebooks.
00:25:13.000 I'm pro notebook.
00:25:14.000 You guys got the notepad right here.
00:25:16.000 Dude, you gotta write shit down.
00:25:18.000 I don't look at 90% of it.
00:25:20.000 There's a lot of stuff in here that I have no idea what the fuck I wrote.
00:25:24.000 But occasionally, I feel like one day I'm gonna wise up, and I'm gonna go in here, and I'm gonna go over these notes, and something's gonna make some sense.
00:25:33.000 But nope.
00:25:34.000 All looks like nonsense.
00:25:36.000 Chicken scratch and nonsense.
00:25:39.000 Page after page of it, Kyle Kingsbury.
00:25:42.000 Do you take notes?
00:25:43.000 Like life notes?
00:25:45.000 Yeah, kind of.
00:25:46.000 I mean, I have two journals that I use for psychedelic ceremonies, shit like that.
00:25:51.000 And then my desk is...
00:25:53.000 It's kind of a fucking joke.
00:25:55.000 I mean, it's just covered in post-its.
00:25:57.000 And I'll just jot shit down on who I'm going to have on the podcast or the supplement that I want to try, what dose that I tried it at, that kind of shit, since I'm kind of the office guinea pig.
00:26:08.000 Just any bullshit.
00:26:09.000 But they're fucking everywhere.
00:26:11.000 Have you ever had an adverse reaction as an office guinea pig trying shit out?
00:26:15.000 Many, many times.
00:26:17.000 I was at a meeting with Aubrey, and I forget the guys that were there, but there were some bigwig guys.
00:26:21.000 And I show up, and he's like, hey, you doing all right?
00:26:25.000 And I was like, uh, no.
00:26:29.000 No, I'm not doing good.
00:26:31.000 And I had taken...
00:26:34.000 I'd taken this form of berberine that lowers blood sugar.
00:26:37.000 It kind of works like metformin.
00:26:38.000 Dr. Peter Atiyah has talked about that before on your show.
00:26:41.000 And it's supposed to help with ketone production and just inflammation and all that good shit.
00:26:46.000 But I took way too much.
00:26:47.000 I kind of eyeballed it.
00:26:49.000 I got cocky.
00:26:50.000 You eyeballed it?
00:26:51.000 I got cocky.
00:26:51.000 Yeah, I probably had three times the dose.
00:26:53.000 And it just fucking sunk me.
00:26:55.000 And I'm like, I'm already in ketosis.
00:26:56.000 I should be fine.
00:26:58.000 And I went pale as a ghost.
00:26:59.000 And he's like, what?
00:27:00.000 Aubrey's got a couch in his office.
00:27:02.000 He said, why don't you just lay on the couch for a minute?
00:27:03.000 So I laid down there, fucking full body sweat.
00:27:06.000 It got worse.
00:27:07.000 And I just listened.
00:27:08.000 And I was like, uh-huh.
00:27:09.000 Yeah, kind of close to fucking throwing up, but...
00:27:12.000 And that's like one of probably ten.
00:27:16.000 How can you eyeball things?
00:27:17.000 You're a smart guy.
00:27:18.000 That's true.
00:27:19.000 Well, I've shit my pants from eyeballing MCT oil on multiple occasions, so...
00:27:23.000 We talked about that last podcast.
00:27:25.000 Dude's got so mad.
00:27:26.000 Yeah, I'll try your diet and shit my fucking pants.
00:27:29.000 Yeah.
00:27:30.000 People are so mad.
00:27:31.000 You can do a keto diet and not take MCT oil.
00:27:34.000 You don't have to.
00:27:35.000 Or you can do it intelligently and fucking measure your dose and not get ballsy.
00:27:39.000 But if you're the average human being, let's just say you're an intelligent, let's be super honest about this.
00:27:46.000 If you're an intelligent, healthy person that eats a reasonably balanced diet, you still have a 1% chance of shitting your pants every day.
00:27:59.000 You think it's that high?
00:28:00.000 No.
00:28:02.000 Because that's one day out of every hundred.
00:28:04.000 I know.
00:28:04.000 That's like two times a year.
00:28:05.000 I don't show my dad three times a year.
00:28:06.000 No.
00:28:07.000 I have to revise my numbers.
00:28:09.000 Maybe one tenth of one percent?
00:28:12.000 One in a thousand?
00:28:14.000 One in a thousand days.
00:28:16.000 So if it's one in a thousand, like one in three years.
00:28:19.000 There's a likelihood.
00:28:21.000 I think I'm living right if I shit my pants once every three years.
00:28:24.000 Good for you.
00:28:25.000 I'm glad you said that, not me.
00:28:27.000 Yeah, if I don't push the envelope in one direction or another.
00:28:31.000 Oh, you're not taking any chances.
00:28:31.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:28:32.000 I'm not playing it safe.
00:28:33.000 Nope, not playing it safe.
00:28:35.000 That's odd.
00:28:37.000 Yeah, it's weird that certain foods that are good for you will also make you shit your pants if you do it wrong.
00:28:43.000 It's like your body wants this real nice balance.
00:28:46.000 I want a real nice balance of nutrients.
00:28:48.000 Don't get fucking crazy with this stuff.
00:28:51.000 Come on.
00:28:52.000 Don't get crazy with that.
00:28:53.000 What's all this oil?
00:28:54.000 What's all this oil?
00:28:54.000 Oh, you want diarrhea?
00:28:55.000 You want diarrhea, motherfucker?
00:28:57.000 Wah!
00:28:58.000 Your body just says, I'm not dealing with this.
00:29:01.000 Let's just flush it out.
00:29:02.000 The problem is that you think it's a fart, and you should know better.
00:29:05.000 It's like, oh, that feels like air.
00:29:07.000 We're good to let this out.
00:29:08.000 And then it's full underwear.
00:29:11.000 Not good.
00:29:12.000 Then you've got to drive home with your hips off the seat the whole way.
00:29:15.000 It's good exercise, though, for your lower pelvic.
00:29:19.000 Activate, loosen up the front side.
00:29:20.000 Male kegels.
00:29:23.000 You're kind of doing a Kegel, holding it back.
00:29:25.000 Yeah, you are, definitely.
00:29:27.000 Yeah.
00:29:27.000 Just staying puckered for an extended period of time.
00:29:30.000 Like, women that do that competitively, do you know that there's, like, competitions?
00:29:33.000 Where they hold something inside the vagina?
00:29:36.000 Yeah.
00:29:36.000 Those are some dedicated people.
00:29:40.000 Like, I would imagine most girls are like, vagina is great by itself.
00:29:44.000 You don't really have to squeeze it until it becomes muscular.
00:29:48.000 You can train it though.
00:29:50.000 You can.
00:29:50.000 You know?
00:29:51.000 You can.
00:29:51.000 Just like training the brain.
00:29:53.000 You can.
00:29:53.000 But how many people do it?
00:29:54.000 I would like to know.
00:29:55.000 There was an anonymous thing where women can answer.
00:29:58.000 I bet that's 1%.
00:29:59.000 How many of them squeeze their pussy all the time and just do exercises like...
00:30:04.000 Look at this girl.
00:30:06.000 She's got some stuff...
00:30:09.000 Upper punana and then she's carrying weights around and she's doing yoga.
00:30:14.000 Record setting vaginal weightlifter.
00:30:17.000 What's wrong with the pants?
00:30:18.000 Well, there's a hole in the middle of it where that rope goes through.
00:30:22.000 That's one thing.
00:30:23.000 That's a rough-looking rope, too, man.
00:30:25.000 That's like a rope that you would tie a dog to a tree with.
00:30:32.000 That's not like a silk rope.
00:30:36.000 That's a fucking rope, man.
00:30:39.000 She's not bad.
00:30:41.000 I really don't like the pants.
00:30:42.000 This is crazy.
00:30:44.000 It's nice that she's moving through different positions, you know?
00:30:46.000 She's not just standing there, hitting Chi Gong with it in there.
00:30:50.000 She's actually, she's working it.
00:30:51.000 This is the sexual equivalent to you taking that overdose of those pills?
00:30:56.000 Or of that shit you were taking?
00:30:59.000 The powder.
00:31:00.000 The sexual equivalent?
00:31:00.000 It's exactly the sexual equivalent.
00:31:02.000 Because you don't want to get jerked off by the Hulk.
00:31:05.000 Okay?
00:31:07.000 I don't know.
00:31:08.000 You can't knock it until you've tried it.
00:31:09.000 I would just imagine.
00:31:10.000 I would enter that and roll the dice and see how strong that is.
00:31:14.000 What if she grabs it like your fist?
00:31:17.000 And you're like, oh Jesus!
00:31:19.000 She's like Pai Mei when he takes the arm.
00:31:21.000 Do you want your cock back?
00:31:23.000 Your cock belongs to me now.
00:31:24.000 Yeah, grabs it like it hurts.
00:31:25.000 Like, hey!
00:31:26.000 Hey!
00:31:28.000 Well, it's still going to be wet, right?
00:31:30.000 Hopefully.
00:31:31.000 Sure.
00:31:31.000 Yeah, I mean everything seems to be in working order.
00:31:35.000 That's a weird thing to want to be able to do too.
00:31:38.000 Carry the most weight with your pussy.
00:31:42.000 How did it go from that being a thought in your mind to one day I'll be the queen, one day I will carry the most weight, to like putting it on YouTube and figuring out a way to put it on YouTube where you have pants that have a hole in them.
00:31:56.000 She started somewhere.
00:31:57.000 Yeah.
00:31:58.000 But I'm willing to bet that seed was planted early on in life.
00:32:01.000 Probably too early.
00:32:03.000 Maybe.
00:32:04.000 I don't know, man.
00:32:05.000 Different strokes for different folks, right?
00:32:08.000 If that's what you're into doing, some people play tennis.
00:32:12.000 Some people are world record pussy weight holders.
00:32:18.000 It's just like, what the fuck, man?
00:32:21.000 Okay.
00:32:23.000 If dudes could grow their dicks, for sure.
00:32:25.000 If there was an exercise, they could grow your dick.
00:32:28.000 What are you talking about?
00:32:28.000 You've talked about that.
00:32:29.000 Yeah.
00:32:29.000 Aren't there tribes in Africa where they hang shit from their, they like got a penis head piercing and they hang different weights from their cock?
00:32:35.000 Yeah, there is some of that, right?
00:32:36.000 They stretch it out.
00:32:37.000 I don't think that's the same.
00:32:39.000 They do like dick games where they'll be semi-hard and they kind of work those muscles on top of the cock to flex the weight up and down.
00:32:45.000 Hmm.
00:32:46.000 Yeah, but if that was, like, as straightforward...
00:32:49.000 So, like, the penis has to be erect in order for it to be hard.
00:32:54.000 And if it's erect and hard, like, it's not a muscle that you could work out.
00:32:58.000 That's what I'm saying.
00:33:00.000 Yeah.
00:33:00.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:33:01.000 It's more about just stretching it.
00:33:02.000 Yeah.
00:33:03.000 But if you had a weightlifting exercise for the dick, like a bicep curl...
00:33:09.000 You know how big the fucking line at the gym would be if someone invented that?
00:33:15.000 No one would be waiting in line for the Stairmaster, right?
00:33:18.000 They would be waiting in line to get on that dick building machine.
00:33:22.000 Just all these dudes with their pants around their angles, stuffed into a glory hole with some kind of weight on the other side?
00:33:29.000 Proportionately.
00:33:30.000 Like, what percentage of girls that lift weight go immediately to booty exercises?
00:33:35.000 Is it a hundred?
00:33:39.000 Any kind of squat rack or anything crazy, that's where you're gonna find the girls that really want to put on that booty mass, right?
00:33:48.000 It's like a high percentage.
00:33:49.000 Do you think the dick-strengthener would make it shorter and fatter?
00:33:53.000 It would be dick-strengthening gyms everywhere.
00:33:55.000 But would it turn you into a Coke can?
00:33:57.000 No, I think it would have to be like you could grow it out.
00:34:01.000 Like you could actually create more tissue.
00:34:07.000 What is this?
00:34:08.000 What are you showing us?
00:34:09.000 I can't find the name of this movie.
00:34:11.000 A guy is hanging weights from his dick.
00:34:15.000 It's a super saturation of it.
00:34:18.000 Hanging from his dick.
00:34:19.000 And the girl's like, I can't believe this.
00:34:22.000 She starts eating a banana in a second.
00:34:24.000 Yes!
00:34:27.000 What is the name of this movie?
00:34:29.000 I couldn't find the name.
00:34:30.000 It's got to be a parody.
00:34:31.000 She's got to keep him hard.
00:34:34.000 There was a black guy looking at him like, what the fuck?
00:34:36.000 He's coming up right there.
00:34:38.000 Damn, they keep stacking kettlebells on his dick.
00:34:41.000 But if there was something like that, like something like a glute ham machine, you know, something that just targeted the dick.
00:34:48.000 You should talk to Rogue.
00:34:51.000 I don't think it's going to work.
00:34:52.000 You'd have one in here.
00:34:53.000 I probably would.
00:34:54.000 Start playing with prototypes.
00:34:56.000 Fucking...
00:34:57.000 A hundred people are going to send you one.
00:34:59.000 If anybody's going to figure it out, it's going to be Ben Greenfield.
00:35:02.000 It's probably going to be some fucking...
00:35:04.000 Well, you know, I had him on Onnit's podcast after he was on yours the first time.
00:35:09.000 And I was like, you know, what do you want to talk about?
00:35:11.000 And we're in the sauna on it.
00:35:12.000 And I'm like, I want to talk stem cells.
00:35:14.000 And he's like, listen...
00:35:16.000 No more dick stem cell talk.
00:35:18.000 I was like, why?
00:35:20.000 He goes, no, I don't want to be known as the dick stem cell guy.
00:35:24.000 And I was like, well, yeah, you went on the wrong show.
00:35:26.000 But, you know, we still talk stem cells.
00:35:29.000 And obviously, you know, we were chatting before the show.
00:35:31.000 It's fucking rad.
00:35:32.000 It's very cool.
00:35:33.000 We got to talk about the intravenous stem cells that he did.
00:35:37.000 Oh, Jamie, show me some more dudes tying weights to the end of their dicks.
00:35:41.000 It's on YouTube.
00:35:42.000 Oh, God, Jamie, this is not good.
00:35:46.000 Oh!
00:35:46.000 Come on, sir!
00:35:47.000 Oh, that's at the base of his cock, and he was holding on to the shaft while he was...
00:35:52.000 Oh my goodness.
00:35:53.000 Picking it up.
00:35:54.000 And then he gets up and he gives blessings to everybody.
00:35:58.000 Blessings.
00:35:58.000 I carried the large rock with my cock.
00:36:00.000 That's the weirdest part of that video.
00:36:02.000 He handled that wind like Fedor.
00:36:04.000 After it's over.
00:36:05.000 No expression on the face.
00:36:06.000 Just like, yeah, I know what I can do.
00:36:08.000 It is the weirdest way to pick up a rock with your dick and then end it.
00:36:12.000 Watch.
00:36:12.000 He gets up.
00:36:13.000 It's like adding dirt to it or something, too.
00:36:15.000 Well, is that writing, is that Indian?
00:36:18.000 Is that Hindu?
00:36:19.000 I think, yeah.
00:36:20.000 Hindi?
00:36:21.000 Yeah, Hindu.
00:36:22.000 Hindu's the religion.
00:36:23.000 Hindi's the writing.
00:36:24.000 Is that what it is?
00:36:27.000 Look how they just allowed a show as cock and balls.
00:36:30.000 I think it's because it's like...
00:36:31.000 Because it's nature?
00:36:33.000 It's a feat of strength.
00:36:34.000 There was another video I did not pull up that was direct, like, showing you how to do this kind of stuff with weights and...
00:36:39.000 Kudos to YouTube for allowing this.
00:36:42.000 Look at this.
00:36:42.000 He's grabbing the honker at the very end.
00:36:45.000 He's got the rope wrapped around the middle, and homeboy's just going to pick up this rock.
00:36:49.000 He's got to widen that squat stance.
00:36:51.000 Yeah.
00:36:52.000 Look at this.
00:36:52.000 Blessings of the cock of death.
00:36:55.000 Blessings.
00:36:55.000 He's got...
00:36:57.000 He's figured out a way to lift weights with his dick, like he's actually doing it.
00:37:00.000 And he seemed to be a wreck there.
00:37:02.000 People seem to be there to see him too.
00:37:05.000 Children were clapping.
00:37:06.000 He's famous.
00:37:07.000 He's the famous dick weight guy.
00:37:09.000 Do you think he has pupils?
00:37:10.000 Will he take on...
00:37:12.000 What a great reality show that would be.
00:37:14.000 He has to.
00:37:15.000 He can't take that to the grave with him.
00:37:16.000 Yeah, you have some dude who was born with a small penis and you send him to this guy, to the master.
00:37:23.000 To apprentice.
00:37:23.000 In India.
00:37:24.000 And he just starts going through all the rituals, the stones and the dick and the...
00:37:31.000 Sticks and...
00:37:31.000 There's got to be more to it.
00:37:33.000 Oh, look at these guys.
00:37:34.000 I've seen this.
00:37:35.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.
00:37:36.000 Using weights to enlarge your penis.
00:37:38.000 They're swinging.
00:37:40.000 Oh, Christ.
00:37:41.000 That looks like 10 pounds.
00:37:42.000 That looks like two 5-pound plates.
00:37:44.000 Is that Bolo Chong from Bloodsport?
00:37:47.000 Oh, that's a woman.
00:37:52.000 Oh, wow.
00:37:55.000 They're not moving their hips.
00:37:56.000 They're not at all.
00:37:57.000 They're using the dick there.
00:37:58.000 They're using dick muscle.
00:38:00.000 That is so crazy.
00:38:01.000 So they have something tied to their dick.
00:38:03.000 We can't see it because they have some sort of a skirt over it for people that are listening.
00:38:07.000 It literally looks like a skirt.
00:38:08.000 And then the rope is making this weight swing like a pendulum in between their legs.
00:38:13.000 And they're not using their hips.
00:38:16.000 They're doing it all with their dick muscles.
00:38:18.000 Now they're practicing kicking in the balls.
00:38:21.000 Very important to let a guy kick you in the balls.
00:38:24.000 What?
00:38:25.000 These guys blow testicles all the time, right?
00:38:28.000 I know at least two or three guys that were kicked and blew out a testicle.
00:38:33.000 In a fight?
00:38:34.000 No, training mostly.
00:38:36.000 I heard of it in training.
00:38:37.000 I mean, I'm sure it's probably happened in fights too, but definitely in training.
00:38:42.000 One of the military guys, like a real promising kid, had it happen to him.
00:38:48.000 I'm trying to place his name.
00:38:49.000 Did it end his career?
00:38:50.000 I do not know.
00:38:52.000 God, I really apologize for not remembering his name.
00:38:55.000 I want to say Brian Foster.
00:38:57.000 Is that who it was?
00:39:03.000 He hasn't fought in the UFC in a long time.
00:39:05.000 But in training, he got kicked low.
00:39:09.000 He didn't have a cup on.
00:39:10.000 It's like, one more round, that kind of deal.
00:39:12.000 Like, yeah, we'll spar one more round, fuck it.
00:39:14.000 And wham!
00:39:15.000 I never understood that, when guys wouldn't wear cups in sparring.
00:39:18.000 So crazy.
00:39:19.000 Don't roll the dice there.
00:39:20.000 It's too risky.
00:39:22.000 Did you ever wear a Thai steel cup?
00:39:25.000 Kane was big into that, but I didn't like that it went up your asshole.
00:39:28.000 That was like, I don't know about that one.
00:39:32.000 Plus, they're smaller.
00:39:35.000 The American ones come out of ways.
00:39:37.000 Oh, stop with the bragging, bro.
00:39:38.000 No, no, no.
00:39:38.000 I'm just saying.
00:39:40.000 It looked like it'd be in a tight spot.
00:39:43.000 That's all.
00:39:43.000 Yeah, well, you can't make a cup for a 140-pound Thai guy and then make that same cut...
00:39:50.000 Fit on gorillas like yourself.
00:39:53.000 You need a bigger cup.
00:39:55.000 You need bigger gloves.
00:39:56.000 I like that there was a little bit of space.
00:39:57.000 That's all I'm saying.
00:39:59.000 Is it like that leather thick padding around the edges of it?
00:40:04.000 No.
00:40:04.000 So, like, when it goes into you, it doesn't go into you in straight...
00:40:07.000 It was rubber.
00:40:07.000 Right.
00:40:08.000 Oh, it was rubber.
00:40:08.000 Yeah, it was like the rubber with a hard plastic.
00:40:10.000 Like a baseball cup.
00:40:11.000 A lot of guys liked those.
00:40:13.000 There was this dude, Amir Renovardi.
00:40:15.000 He was one of Bas Rutten's protégés.
00:40:18.000 We used to train with him at Eddie's place, and he'd mount you.
00:40:21.000 And he had that fucking steel cup, and it would be like he was crushing your sternum with his dick.
00:40:27.000 It was uber uncomfortable.
00:40:29.000 It was not fun.
00:40:30.000 He was very good at that.
00:40:32.000 He would get mount on you and just crush you down like you...
00:40:35.000 And it's like...
00:40:36.000 Unnatural leverage in arm bars as well.
00:40:38.000 When you go over that steel cup, you got a metal thing that you're bending someone's arm against.
00:40:44.000 It's a big deal.
00:40:45.000 It's a really big deal if you think about it.
00:40:47.000 I mean, you would think like, wait a minute, even a regular arm bar, hold on, you're pulling his arm into your balls?
00:40:53.000 Like, what the fuck?
00:40:55.000 Yeah, you are.
00:40:56.000 Your dick and balls are resting on someone's arm when you give them an arm bar.
00:41:01.000 That is just a fact.
00:41:02.000 If you don't like that fact, your goal, in fact, is to get your dick and balls to rest on this guy's arm.
00:41:09.000 But you're not thinking about that.
00:41:11.000 You're thinking of getting your hips down on him, getting that arm in between your legs, or getting that arm in between your arms and your legs, extending your body.
00:41:19.000 But if you have a...
00:41:21.000 You got this crazy fulcrum.
00:41:23.000 You got this weird leverage point.
00:41:25.000 It's made out of metal.
00:41:26.000 It's a fucking metal piece.
00:41:28.000 So instead of having vulnerable balls, you have this thing.
00:41:32.000 You have a lever.
00:41:34.000 You could snap shit better.
00:41:36.000 Mike Swick popped my rib out eight days before a fight with his cup.
00:41:40.000 This one right here.
00:41:40.000 Damn, it's still fucked up.
00:41:42.000 Yeah, it reset that way.
00:41:43.000 Wow.
00:41:45.000 It's from those goddamn steel cups, right?
00:41:46.000 Yeah, I mean the swicketine.
00:41:48.000 And just dug his cup was right under a rib.
00:41:50.000 And I was dead tired.
00:41:52.000 Last round of training of the entire fight camp and popped it out.
00:41:57.000 I wonder how controversial...
00:41:58.000 I'm so out of the loop when it comes to grappling, grappling competitions.
00:42:03.000 I wonder how legal they are.
00:42:05.000 I wonder if they're allowed to use them at all.
00:42:07.000 I wish Eddie Bravo was here.
00:42:09.000 No, I don't think they get to use cups of any sort.
00:42:12.000 Of any sort?
00:42:13.000 Yeah.
00:42:14.000 Well, that would be crazy.
00:42:15.000 I would want to wear a cup.
00:42:16.000 I've been smashed in the nuts before in training.
00:42:18.000 I don't think you get to.
00:42:19.000 I don't think it's allowed.
00:42:20.000 Wow, that's crazy.
00:42:22.000 Yeah.
00:42:22.000 No cups at all, because of that fulcrum point.
00:42:25.000 Probably.
00:42:25.000 Yeah.
00:42:26.000 Yeah, it must be.
00:42:27.000 It's crazy that your dick would become an advantage.
00:42:30.000 Like, you know, like that area.
00:42:32.000 Instead of like being like, one object changes what that is.
00:42:37.000 So it goes from being like a super vulnerable area to, ooh, if I get you there...
00:42:40.000 Or even, like, north-south.
00:42:42.000 Like, Canaan would have me in north-south and just fucking dig it into the side of my face.
00:42:45.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.
00:42:46.000 And I'm sure there's balswit there, too.
00:42:48.000 But, I mean, really, that would fuck me up.
00:42:51.000 Yeah, you got a metal bar driving into your face.
00:42:53.000 A real piece of metal.
00:42:55.000 And if you kick those fucking things, you pay for it.
00:42:59.000 Like, if you kick those things and you slap it with your instep...
00:43:03.000 Ah!
00:43:04.000 It's like you might as well be kicking a rock or kicking the bottom of someone's elbow.
00:43:08.000 Worse than young Jamie running down the mountain in his Vibrams.
00:43:11.000 Yeah, young Jamie tried to go barefoot shoe running.
00:43:14.000 Which one did you go?
00:43:15.000 Did you get the Vivo barefoots?
00:43:16.000 Yeah, the Vivos, yeah.
00:43:18.000 Super thin.
00:43:19.000 Super, super thin.
00:43:20.000 Yeah.
00:43:21.000 I have two different pairs of those.
00:43:23.000 I got one that has a lot of tread.
00:43:26.000 That's got a good thick amount of tread.
00:43:29.000 And then another one that has less.
00:43:31.000 And the one that has less, you can feel the difference when you run like...
00:43:35.000 These real slippery, steep slopes.
00:43:39.000 I need something where I can dig in.
00:43:41.000 If I'm trying to sprint up to the top of the hill, I don't want to be worried about my footing.
00:43:45.000 I'm tired at that point, too.
00:43:47.000 I'm going all the way up this fucking hill.
00:43:49.000 I want to dig in.
00:43:50.000 Are they toe shoes or do they have full coverage?
00:43:52.000 Full coverage.
00:43:53.000 See, I like that better for running.
00:43:55.000 Yeah.
00:43:56.000 You stub your toe on shit.
00:43:57.000 You can't watch where you're...
00:43:59.000 I like the Vibrams.
00:44:01.000 I wear them all the time.
00:44:02.000 I don't have an endorsement with any of these people.
00:44:04.000 I don't have any kind of deals.
00:44:06.000 But what I like about the Vibrams is, for sure, it feels like you're moving more with your pinkies.
00:44:12.000 Like your pinky toes and the other toes, they're aware that they have a job.
00:44:16.000 Whereas I feel like when I wear even barefoot shoes, That have full coverage, I feel like they're lazy.
00:44:23.000 They're just along for the ride.
00:44:25.000 Yeah, we'll just hang on.
00:44:25.000 We can take a break.
00:44:26.000 Yeah, we'll take a break.
00:44:27.000 Whereas I feel all that shit activated.
00:44:30.000 It might be just in my head.
00:44:32.000 But when I run with five finger shoes on, a trail run with those things on, I feel like my foot is moving just a wee bit more than even regular barefoot shoes.
00:44:41.000 Something about having all those little fuckers free like that.
00:44:43.000 And they're feeling the dirt the way they're supposed to.
00:44:46.000 Like, they're moving together the same way your hands move together when you fall on gravel or something like that.
00:44:52.000 Your hand, you know, it moves together.
00:44:55.000 It's thinking of how to cushion blows and how to stop something that's coming your way and how to interact with space, whereas your foot is just kind of clubbing the ground all the time.
00:45:05.000 I feel like with those shoes, the one thing I'm aware of is that the foot is acting like all the little individual muscles are helping to push me around.
00:45:15.000 You know?
00:45:16.000 It's massive.
00:45:17.000 I've noticed that on, I mean, all walks.
00:45:18.000 You're wearing them right now.
00:45:19.000 I wear them all the time.
00:45:20.000 He's wearing them right now.
00:45:21.000 No endorsement either.
00:45:22.000 This motherfucker walks around with him.
00:45:23.000 Yeah.
00:45:24.000 Once I started walking him on a long-term basis, especially doing longer walks and jogs, like, there's a clear-cut difference.
00:45:30.000 Yeah.
00:45:30.000 You have to be mindful of every fucking step you take.
00:45:33.000 Yeah.
00:45:33.000 Especially if they're thinner-soled, you know?
00:45:35.000 They make some thick-soled ones for trail running and whatnot.
00:45:38.000 Yeah, I use those.
00:45:39.000 I use those.
00:45:40.000 The only time I use the really thin ones are at the gym.
00:45:43.000 Mm.
00:45:44.000 But yeah, those are the ones I have, Jamie.
00:45:48.000 You just gotta watch out for sharp rocks.
00:45:51.000 And I don't have to watch out for sharp rocks in the other ones.
00:45:54.000 If I'm running and something's kind of funky, I gotta go, ooh, I don't want to land on that.
00:45:59.000 I gotta look.
00:45:59.000 Yeah, you gotta pay attention.
00:46:01.000 But with those other ones, I could just kind of hustle and breathe.
00:46:04.000 But maybe that's not as good.
00:46:06.000 Maybe it's better to do it that way.
00:46:09.000 Maybe it engages your brain more.
00:46:12.000 Forces you to think And make decisions while you're exhausted.
00:46:17.000 Actually, it might be better.
00:46:19.000 Now that I'm thinking about it, it might be a better thing to do as a workout.
00:46:22.000 You're more present, too.
00:46:24.000 You're not thinking about other bullshit.
00:46:25.000 It's kind of like when we're talking about archery or the cold bath or any of these things.
00:46:30.000 It dows you in.
00:46:31.000 But I think part of it for some people with running is that getting into the zone thing that you do.
00:46:37.000 When you start getting a pace going...
00:46:40.000 And just get into that zone.
00:46:42.000 You don't want to think about any other extraneous shit.
00:46:45.000 And if you're doing that and watching every step you take, is it possible?
00:46:50.000 I'm just throwing this out there.
00:46:51.000 That would, like, inhibit you from getting into the zone?
00:46:54.000 Because you'd have to be too conscious about every step you're taking?
00:46:56.000 Maybe.
00:46:57.000 I mean, I'm sure everyone's different, right?
00:46:59.000 But for me, when I do that, I don't feel...
00:47:02.000 I feel like it draws me into the zone, right?
00:47:05.000 Because if I can just run on a fucking treadmill, I'm not worried about where my feet go, that kind of thing.
00:47:09.000 And then my mind will wander then, right?
00:47:11.000 Because I don't have to pay attention.
00:47:12.000 It'll start thinking about other shit, especially if it's an easy run.
00:47:15.000 My mind will wander then.
00:47:16.000 It's not dialed in because it doesn't have to be.
00:47:20.000 What kind of cardio machines do you use, if any?
00:47:23.000 Well, one that I really like, I mean, all I can use right now, because my knee's fucked, is the SkiErg.
00:47:28.000 And I like that.
00:47:29.000 Aubrey and I will get on those and do some sprint work.
00:47:31.000 You were saying you have a, what is it, MCL tear?
00:47:34.000 No, torn meniscus.
00:47:35.000 Yeah.
00:47:36.000 Thankfully, no surgery required with that, because of the placement.
00:47:39.000 And so you got some stem cells on that?
00:47:41.000 Yeah, we did stem cells.
00:47:43.000 What did they do?
00:47:44.000 Last week, we did umbilical stem cells, intranasal, IV, and in the knee.
00:47:50.000 Jesus.
00:47:51.000 With glutathione.
00:47:52.000 Jesus!
00:47:53.000 The knee didn't hurt like I thought the fucking injection was gonna hurt like they're gonna wiggle it in with some long ass needle But that wasn't bad the pressure once it goes in that fucking hurt Stem cells fix my left knee.
00:48:06.000 I was having problems my left knee for years I had a ACL reconstruction on that knee and on that knee They took some meniscus out as well.
00:48:15.000 It's always been a problem like whenever I'd work out real hard Like, two or three days in a row, it was always sore.
00:48:22.000 Like, I'd walk around, it was just sore.
00:48:25.000 And then I'd have to warm it up to get going.
00:48:27.000 One session with umbilical cord stem cells, and then I gave it a long time off, and I never had a problem with it again.
00:48:34.000 Like, it literally went away.
00:48:36.000 It's like one of those things where I had a problem, now I don't have a problem anymore.
00:48:39.000 Like, hill running, kicking the bag, whatever I'm doing, using that Echo Bike or the VersaClimber, anything I'm doing with my knees, no problems.
00:48:48.000 Yeah, I'm just babying it now.
00:48:50.000 But we work with this guy, Dr. Craig Conover, who did the stem cells.
00:48:53.000 He's been doing vitamin IVs at Onnit for us, and he's a fucking savage.
00:48:58.000 We'll do like the NAD treatments that Greenfield talks about.
00:49:00.000 Greenfield was telling me it's really, really beneficial.
00:49:03.000 It is legit.
00:49:04.000 As fuck.
00:49:04.000 Tell me about it.
00:49:05.000 It feels like, we get it done in IV. What's the name stand for again?
00:49:09.000 I think it's nicotinamide adenine adenosine, I don't know, nicotine adenosine dinucleotide.
00:49:18.000 There we go.
00:49:19.000 Damn.
00:49:20.000 Anyways, it's basically food for the mitochondria.
00:49:24.000 And you can influence that pathway through fasting, hot and cold therapy, high intensity intervals, different things like that.
00:49:30.000 But just to get it mainlined into your fucking body, it feels like someone's got their hand on your stomach and they're slowly turning it.
00:49:38.000 It doesn't feel good.
00:49:39.000 You fucking sweat.
00:49:40.000 If people have nasal issues, they'll sneeze.
00:49:42.000 Why does it feel like it's turning your stomach?
00:49:44.000 Well, I think the idea is that Because it influences mitochondrial biogenesis, it's going to kill off any old mitochondria that need to go.
00:49:53.000 But you feel that in the gut, and then you get new ones.
00:49:56.000 And over time, I mean, we front load this four to eight days in a row.
00:50:01.000 And by the end of the eighth day- What does that mean by front load it?
00:50:04.000 Every single day you do it for eight days.
00:50:06.000 What?
00:50:07.000 Then you only need it like once a month or once every two weeks after that.
00:50:11.000 Right.
00:50:11.000 Little touch-ups after that.
00:50:12.000 Every single day.
00:50:13.000 Yeah.
00:50:14.000 So every single day you're getting gut-wrenched?
00:50:16.000 Yeah.
00:50:16.000 But by the end of it, you feel better.
00:50:18.000 So because you've gotten rid of most of the bad shit, and again, that's theory.
00:50:22.000 I mean, this is brand new stuff here.
00:50:23.000 Yeah, we've got to be super careful with this.
00:50:25.000 Most of the science is on rats.
00:50:25.000 Let me say that.
00:50:26.000 This is theory.
00:50:27.000 Most of the science is on rats.
00:50:28.000 It's always like a weird thing to say.
00:50:30.000 But I'll tell you, the feeling is there's no fucking doubt it works.
00:50:35.000 I mean, anything that influences mitochondria influences everything.
00:50:38.000 That's energy for your brain, cognitive function, heart, lungs, the whole nine.
00:50:42.000 Greenfield was saying that he had the mitochondria, the telomere lengths, when they check his telomere lengths, that his biological age is 20. So he went, he started, and listened to him.
00:50:54.000 He had the tello-years guy on, right?
00:50:56.000 So I did the same test.
00:50:58.000 And his biological age was 36 and his chronological age was 34. And I'm like, this motherfucker who was homeschooled K through 12 and is an Ironman triathlete is two years older biologically than chronologically.
00:51:11.000 Where the fuck am I? I went to ASU, did all the bad drugs, been hit in the head fucking countless times.
00:51:17.000 It's gotta be bad.
00:51:19.000 So at 35 when I did mine, Biological age of 41. And I'm like, fuck!
00:51:25.000 But right after he did the systemic stem cells through the IV, that dropped him from 36 to 20 years old biologically.
00:51:32.000 Wow.
00:51:33.000 How many did he do?
00:51:35.000 How many sessions did he do?
00:51:36.000 I don't know.
00:51:37.000 I think it was just after the first one.
00:51:38.000 I know he's done them more.
00:51:39.000 And he did different stem cells.
00:51:41.000 So why are you guys doing it so many days in a row?
00:51:43.000 For the NAD? Yeah.
00:51:45.000 Well, the idea of front-loading.
00:51:47.000 They used to say that with creatine.
00:51:48.000 I think that's been debunked.
00:51:49.000 But there are certain substances, especially with how they influence, you can really ramp up and change the body dramatically.
00:51:56.000 And then after that, you just need little touch-ups here and there.
00:52:01.000 So what did you feel like?
00:52:02.000 What did you feel like after it was over?
00:52:03.000 With the NAD? Yeah.
00:52:04.000 I was like, I know I won't really be able to look at this like a quantified self.
00:52:09.000 I'm not going to be able to take numbers and shit.
00:52:12.000 So what I did was I put myself through the meat grinder.
00:52:15.000 I hadn't really been training a lot since working my first real 9 to 5 kind of thing.
00:52:22.000 And I'd train twice a day, busted out the old altitude machine, was doing altitude every day, hot and cold.
00:52:28.000 You know, we got the dual sauna on it.
00:52:30.000 I do the cold bath at home.
00:52:32.000 And all during that process, because we got the little guy, I wasn't sleeping well.
00:52:37.000 So put myself through all that.
00:52:39.000 My fucking cardio went through the roof.
00:52:41.000 I never got sick.
00:52:42.000 I recovered well.
00:52:43.000 So I knew it worked.
00:52:44.000 And on top of that, you know, cognitive function, memory retention, everything was fucking scaling up a notch.
00:52:51.000 Cardio?
00:52:52.000 Yeah.
00:52:52.000 Fuck yeah.
00:52:53.000 Your cardio ramped up.
00:52:54.000 Anything that influences mitochondria affects fucking all of it.
00:52:57.000 That's ATP throughout your entire body.
00:53:00.000 And it's brain, too.
00:53:01.000 You know, people think of like, oh, all right, you know, that's one of the reasons they're looking at creatine right now is a nootropic.
00:53:08.000 Really?
00:53:09.000 Because it influences ATP. And every fucking thing in your body runs on ATP. Have they done studies on this yet?
00:53:15.000 I think Greenfield might be a better guy to ask, but I'm pretty certain that they've verified that creatine helps the brain now.
00:53:22.000 Makes sense if it helps muscles.
00:53:24.000 I mean, if it helps blood flow.
00:53:28.000 I mean, there's got to be a bunch of different things.
00:53:32.000 It's fucking cellular energy.
00:53:34.000 It's cellular energy.
00:53:35.000 That's all ATP is, right?
00:53:36.000 So everything runs on that one thing, and you're good there.
00:53:40.000 Whether you're in ketosis or you're eating carbohydrates, it's all going back to ATP. It's crazy.
00:53:46.000 It's crazy you could do that.
00:53:47.000 You could have someone inject something into you, and all of a sudden you get this, like...
00:53:52.000 This recharged state.
00:53:53.000 And then there's the debate.
00:53:55.000 Okay, is this healthy?
00:53:56.000 What's the long-term research?
00:53:58.000 Well, yeah, and then all the shit, you know, it's funny because...
00:54:00.000 What are the drawbacks?
00:54:01.000 I have a certain amount of followers online.
00:54:03.000 Then, you know, you go to a company like Onnit, and you have...
00:54:06.000 It's magnified, right?
00:54:08.000 By 100, by 1,000, whatever.
00:54:10.000 And, you know, anytime I post shit, because I'll do stuff online for like the biohack of the week or the life hack of the week, and sometimes it's just run-of-the-mill, you know, go for a fucking farmer's walk with some weights in your hand, or keep a kettlebell in your trunk, and then you can always work out.
00:54:24.000 Or sometimes it's more technology-based, and we get a lot of shit on anything technology-based.
00:54:30.000 And, of course, the argument then is...
00:54:33.000 Well, I believe I can get everything I need from a good diet and good nutrition and movement, and I don't need to inject shit to be healthy.
00:54:39.000 And it's like, yeah, but...
00:54:41.000 I like Greenfield's model.
00:54:43.000 You have one foot in ancestral living and one foot in the benefits of modern science.
00:54:47.000 So why wouldn't I fuck with that?
00:54:48.000 I think that's a smart way to approach it.
00:54:50.000 I think we have a real problem and we always have as human beings being tribal.
00:54:55.000 And I'm on tribe natural.
00:54:57.000 I'm all natural, bro.
00:54:59.000 I'm not into hormones.
00:55:01.000 I don't need my cell phone, man.
00:55:03.000 I'd rather leave it alone.
00:55:04.000 And then we've got tribe science who think that science is going to figure everything out and nature ain't shit.
00:55:11.000 We're better than nature.
00:55:12.000 We're smarter than nature.
00:55:13.000 Press forward.
00:55:14.000 And that's obviously the extremes of each end.
00:55:17.000 But people just tend to fucking do that, man.
00:55:19.000 There was the most ridiculous video that I retweeted from Barstool.
00:55:23.000 I think it was Barstool.
00:55:25.000 Just find out who I retweeted it from so we can give them credit on their Instagram.
00:55:28.000 But was it Barstool?
00:55:31.000 It was a video at a baseball game.
00:55:35.000 And one side was saying, right field sucks.
00:55:40.000 And the other side was singing, left field sucks.
00:55:43.000 And they would yell it out.
00:55:45.000 On three, here we go.
00:55:46.000 One, two, three.
00:55:48.000 Right field sucks.
00:55:50.000 Yeah!
00:55:51.000 And everybody got pumped up.
00:55:52.000 And the people over here, like, left field sucked.
00:55:54.000 People are so stupid.
00:55:58.000 The team that sat on the left side is the best.
00:56:03.000 Here it is.
00:56:04.000 Play this.
00:56:04.000 Is it a barstool?
00:56:06.000 Barstool Sports.
00:56:07.000 Shout out to Barstool Sports on Instagram.
00:56:09.000 Look at it.
00:56:15.000 Now these guys are getting fired up.
00:56:16.000 We're so thrilled.
00:56:17.000 We're not gonna take that.
00:56:18.000 We're not gonna take that.
00:56:25.000 But, I gotta say, if I was there, I would enjoy every second of that.
00:56:35.000 Especially if I had a couple beers and a hot dog in me.
00:56:37.000 I'd have been yelling it too.
00:56:39.000 Yeah, man.
00:56:40.000 I mean, that's what's fun, right?
00:56:43.000 And they're all rooting for the same team, for the most part.
00:56:46.000 Who knows?
00:56:47.000 How do they do that?
00:56:49.000 No, they don't fucking split the sides on a home game.
00:56:52.000 Does anybody ever do that?
00:56:54.000 They do that in soccer?
00:56:56.000 It might happen.
00:56:57.000 There might be a section, but there's still people all over the place.
00:57:00.000 For both teams?
00:57:01.000 Yeah.
00:57:02.000 So they're not rooting on the same team.
00:57:04.000 But conceivably, they could just go all...
00:57:07.000 That would prove my point even further, though, because now you have both...
00:57:11.000 Say it's Cubs and Giants.
00:57:14.000 You've got Cubs fans and Giants fans sitting on the right field, both yelling to the left field, the left field sucks.
00:57:20.000 And Cubs and Giants fans on left field, both yelling it to right field.
00:57:25.000 It's bringing people together, Joe Rogan.
00:57:27.000 Through hate.
00:57:28.000 Yeah.
00:57:28.000 At least it's fake hate.
00:57:30.000 You know, they don't really think those people suck.
00:57:32.000 I mean, if you all sat them down as individuals and said, what do you really think about these random people on the right?
00:57:36.000 Like, oh, they're just folks that are sitting over there watching the baseball game.
00:57:39.000 Is this a parallel for politics?
00:57:41.000 For life, my friend.
00:57:43.000 For all of this life.
00:57:45.000 I don't know, probably, right?
00:57:46.000 There's probably something to that.
00:57:47.000 That might be also why Trump could win again.
00:57:50.000 He can win again.
00:57:52.000 Well, anybody that believes that he won't win again, they're the same people that believed he stood no chance of winning the first time.
00:57:57.000 Dude, I took a photo of Jake Tapper on TV when the results were being read because he was doing one of them to report things and he had, through the entire election, he was like, really...
00:58:08.000 Very, very obviously in angst at the thought of this guy being president.
00:58:14.000 And then when he finally became president, Jake Tapper's face is just like, it's so classic.
00:58:20.000 It's one of those moments where you're like, Jesus Christ.
00:58:24.000 I'm never going to forget that guy's face when Trump was elected because it was just like, what the fuck is this?
00:58:32.000 Yeah.
00:58:34.000 It's just a crazy face.
00:58:36.000 I mean, if everything works out, nobody dies, no extra people die because of Trump being president, this will be a very fascinating time to study.
00:58:48.000 It'd be a very fascinating time.
00:58:50.000 I don't think there's ever been a time like this, man.
00:58:52.000 Drug laws are relaxing all over the place.
00:58:55.000 They're pushing MDMA through maps to get it to use for therapy for soldiers with PTSD, and it works remarkably well.
00:59:03.000 It works better than fucking anything.
00:59:04.000 Better than anything?
00:59:05.000 I've been able to guide a couple of those sessions, couples therapy sessions, not the PTSD sessions.
00:59:09.000 What's it been like?
00:59:12.000 Fucking incredible.
00:59:13.000 I mean, I watched a breakup happen.
00:59:16.000 With that.
00:59:17.000 And I've never seen people break up prior to that, so I don't really have the comparison.
00:59:21.000 But just seeing...
00:59:22.000 It's heart-opening medicine.
00:59:24.000 And I know that you haven't had great experiences with it in the past, but this pharmaceutical shit is a whole different animal.
00:59:30.000 No, I didn't have a bad experience.
00:59:32.000 I only had a bad experience with the come-down.
00:59:34.000 Yeah, there is no come-down with the pharmaceutical.
00:59:37.000 Nothing?
00:59:37.000 I mean, fucking zero.
00:59:39.000 And I thought it diminishes your...
00:59:42.000 Your dopamine levels.
00:59:43.000 I've spoken to Rick Doblin about this twice.
00:59:45.000 Serotonin levels.
00:59:46.000 Yeah.
00:59:46.000 And the thing is, you know, as with any...
00:59:49.000 I know it's not a true psychedelic, but with any psychedelic...
00:59:52.000 What is a true psychedelic?
00:59:53.000 A true psychedelic, like Michael Pollan would say, would be like a tryptamine-based psychedelic.
00:59:57.000 The classical psychedelics.
00:59:58.000 You look at...
00:59:59.000 Hallucinations.
01:00:00.000 Yeah.
01:00:01.000 And you're thinking of things like mushrooms, LSD, you know, wachuma, peyote, ayahuasca, DMT. Those kind of things would be more traditional.
01:00:09.000 Yeah.
01:00:09.000 You know what, man?
01:00:10.000 I would honestly say that I think in high doses, edible marijuana is a psychedelic.
01:00:17.000 Yeah.
01:00:18.000 Yeah.
01:00:18.000 There's no doubt.
01:00:19.000 No doubt.
01:00:19.000 I really, I mean, I've heard people argue against that.
01:00:22.000 I'm like, man, I don't know.
01:00:24.000 I think in high doses, when you close your eyes and lie down, like sit down on a couch on a high dose and you're really, really flying.
01:00:34.000 I've had visuals from fucking Gorilla Glue just smoking.
01:00:37.000 Gorilla Glue.
01:00:38.000 My wife and I both.
01:00:39.000 What do you mean Gorilla Glue?
01:00:40.000 It's a strain, not actual glue.
01:00:42.000 Yeah, I was huffing glue with my wife.
01:00:44.000 We experiment with anything.
01:00:45.000 This fucking podcast took a turn.
01:00:48.000 I was like, Kyle Kingsbury's so savage, he's out there smoking glue.
01:00:52.000 What about the kids, Kyle?
01:00:54.000 It's the name, yeah.
01:00:54.000 I'm not going to be a good father.
01:00:57.000 And you experience visuals?
01:00:58.000 Fucking full-blown.
01:00:59.000 Full-blown.
01:01:00.000 You can get them, man.
01:01:01.000 If you get high enough.
01:01:03.000 McKenna used to say that the way to do it was to not get high for long periods of time.
01:01:07.000 And then smoke as much as you can handle in one setting.
01:01:10.000 That's not my jam.
01:01:11.000 I've been using one milligram THC spray and I microdose cannabis.
01:01:18.000 Fairly often, just in the evening, and it helps with sleep.
01:01:21.000 But this MDMA, man, it's a whole fucking different ballgame.
01:01:24.000 I think you should try, if I can request, at some point, you try the pharmaceutical-grade MDMA just to know what it's all about.
01:01:32.000 Because Rick Doblin was saying, you give it space, like you would with a classical hallucinogen.
01:01:37.000 You're not supposed to fucking go back to work the next day or do a bunch of bullshit, tedious, drawn back into the real world.
01:01:44.000 Give it space, journal, meditate, throw on some easy listening music, and rest.
01:01:48.000 And if you do that, you're fine.
01:01:49.000 Because in their protocol, they're not allowed to use anything else but the MDMA. So I asked him, like, why don't you guys have a protocol for 5-HTP, vitamin C, different things we know help build back the neurotransmitter support you may have lost.
01:02:04.000 And he said, just with the finagling with the FDA and everything they have to go through, he says, it's fucking impossible.
01:02:09.000 But if we give them that day off...
01:02:12.000 They're gold.
01:02:12.000 And then, of course, New Mood, plug on it again, was designed for that experience to be able to curtail any kind of comedown.
01:02:21.000 I've had zero issues after using the pharmaceutical grade.
01:02:24.000 What was the original name of it?
01:02:25.000 Roll on, roll off, or what was it?
01:02:27.000 Something like that.
01:02:28.000 Yeah, it was something like that.
01:02:29.000 Yeah, he was...
01:02:31.000 5-HTP boosters, like, I mean, 5-HTP supplementation has been going on for a long time.
01:02:36.000 A lot of people have been into that.
01:02:37.000 It works.
01:02:38.000 Yeah, it's a smart way to approach MDMA, to stock up, to have a bunch in your system so your body's going to have to build this shit up again because you're going to flood it with it for a while.
01:02:48.000 So you're going to have this weird little period where your body's going to struggle...
01:02:52.000 But it's a thing that I would hope, if these studies do continue to prove without a doubt that it's beneficial to a lot of these people, that they make it available to more people.
01:03:04.000 It will be.
01:03:04.000 It should be quick, man.
01:03:06.000 They estimate 2022, I think, or 2023 at the latest.
01:03:09.000 That's not that bad.
01:03:10.000 But the FDA made it breakthrough drug.
01:03:13.000 I think, breakthrough drug, which is like on the fast track to go through.
01:03:17.000 I think the whole world would be way better if everybody was on just like a microdose of ecstasy all the time.
01:03:23.000 Just a little, just a little like, ah.
01:03:26.000 I don't know that that could last, but that would be medicine.
01:03:28.000 Just a little microdose.
01:03:29.000 That's the thing.
01:03:30.000 You talk about compassion and all these other important lessons that have been talked about in all spiritual texts.
01:03:36.000 It's automatic.
01:03:36.000 You drop right into that.
01:03:39.000 Yeah.
01:03:39.000 Do you think that it's possible to train your brain to produce more of it?
01:03:43.000 Do you think through meditation and mindfulness and all these different practices that people do to stay present, to be more open and more loving, that you could build that up almost like a muscle?
01:03:56.000 I don't know that you could build...
01:03:59.000 Serotonin up over time.
01:04:00.000 I'm sure there's some type of cap where nature does not want us to be happy 24-7.
01:04:05.000 Is there any tricks, though, to getting it to turn on?
01:04:08.000 There's a book, The Science of Mindfulness, by Dr. Ronald Siegel.
01:04:11.000 It's on one of the great courses on Audible.
01:04:13.000 And he's a Harvard professor.
01:04:14.000 And he talks about the brain like a fucking muscle.
01:04:17.000 And science has backed this.
01:04:18.000 The more you train that, the easier it is to drop into.
01:04:22.000 And I've had coaches, breathwork coaches.
01:04:24.000 We're working with The Art of Breath.
01:04:27.000 Rob Wilson and Brian McKenzie came out and they did like a full fucking blown day of breath working on it.
01:04:33.000 And the more often you can shift into parasympathetic state from fight or flight sympathetic.
01:04:37.000 You know, you shift consciously through breath into that parasympathetic state.
01:04:42.000 That becomes trainable.
01:04:43.000 You can do that over and over again.
01:04:44.000 And then all it takes is just a couple deep breaths in your back, right?
01:04:48.000 Because you train that.
01:04:48.000 The fucking body remembers.
01:04:50.000 The brain remembers.
01:04:51.000 And when you're in those states, that shifts everything from the neurochemical response to the brainwave state.
01:04:56.000 You can drop from beta into alpha into theta.
01:05:00.000 That's fascinating stuff, man.
01:05:03.000 It's crazy to think what we understand about the various pathways these chemicals have to go through and then what is like still Confusing like here's the big one.
01:05:14.000 Where's the where's the consciousness coming from exactly?
01:05:16.000 How does it all become the thing that's looking through kyle kingsbury's eyes and seeing me and mine looking at you?
01:05:22.000 What's exact?
01:05:23.000 What's what is that thing?
01:05:25.000 What is that thing that seems to be like almost like a Like an energy that runs through this machine.
01:05:32.000 It's through fucking everything.
01:05:34.000 Yeah.
01:05:35.000 It's in all things.
01:05:36.000 But if we thought about it that way, like you'd be so much more concerned with keeping that energy high.
01:05:43.000 You know?
01:05:44.000 I mean, how much of what would people experience when it comes to the word depression?
01:05:48.000 How much of it is their life going bad, tragedy, poor health...
01:05:55.000 Bad job choices, how much of it is some sort of a weird genetic thing, how much...
01:06:01.000 I mean, there's so many variables as to what causes depression, but such a giant number of people suffer from depression.
01:06:09.000 Well, I think it only...
01:06:11.000 If I'm being honest, I think it's going to get worse.
01:06:14.000 You look at the way we live, and the closer and closer you've spoken about that, we were just talking about fucking New York.
01:06:20.000 We're not meant to be that confined.
01:06:21.000 We're not meant to sit out.
01:06:24.000 We're withheld from the fucking sun right now.
01:06:26.000 So many of these things communicate with our bodies.
01:06:28.000 I'm working with a genetic specialist, Ryan Frissinger.
01:06:31.000 He was on Chris Ryan's show.
01:06:34.000 Sunlight influences 500 on-off switches on our epigenetic level.
01:06:39.000 For the good, unless you fucking overdo it, right?
01:06:42.000 500. 500 plus on-off switches in our DNA are affected by sunlight, positively, right?
01:06:49.000 I mean, they look at vitamin D3, take that for example, they're calling that a hormone now, not a fucking vitamin.
01:06:55.000 Really?
01:06:55.000 Because it's a messenger.
01:06:56.000 That's how much it influences in the body.
01:06:58.000 Incredibly important.
01:07:00.000 So when you think about all these things like being barefoot, being connected to the earth, going in the fucking ocean, Science will catch up in certain ways, but we get fixated on the thing.
01:07:10.000 We get fixated on our phones, on whatever TV is going on.
01:07:15.000 We're closed off from other people.
01:07:17.000 We think, you know, communicating through Facebook is the same as being fucking face-to-face.
01:07:21.000 It's not.
01:07:22.000 You know, the more we head that direction and we're putting, you know, as you put it, putting fucking shit food in our body for mouth pleasure, that influences the brain.
01:07:30.000 Right?
01:07:31.000 80 to 90% of all of our neurotransmitters are made by the bacteria in our gut.
01:07:35.000 So you think the shit meal is just going to put on five pounds.
01:07:38.000 It's not.
01:07:38.000 It might put on five pounds, but it's going to fuck your brain up for a while.
01:07:41.000 You make it a little bit more emotional.
01:07:43.000 Fuck with your sharpness, your memory recall.
01:07:46.000 All that's impacted.
01:07:48.000 Sleep's impacted.
01:07:49.000 I wish Michael Walker talked a bit more about that.
01:07:51.000 I just don't think it's in his wheelhouse.
01:07:53.000 I don't think it is.
01:07:54.000 He's just a guy who studies sleep and The effects on it, but fuck was that illuminating, eye-opening.
01:08:01.000 That podcast was so important to me.
01:08:03.000 It was fucking fantastic.
01:08:04.000 I think his book is really good, but as far as dialing in sleep, it's more of, this is what happens when you don't sleep.
01:08:13.000 The book Sleep by Nick Littlehales is probably my favorite, because that gives you all, it's a fucking how-to guide on how to maximize sleep.
01:08:20.000 And when you were younger, lack of sleep didn't affect you the way it affects you now, right?
01:08:25.000 Correct.
01:08:26.000 Yeah.
01:08:26.000 Everything he talks about, like that shift that happens in adolescence where you become a night owl, no doubt.
01:08:32.000 And I probably still could stay out a little bit later until having a kid, and then that's your immediate reset to, bitch, you're getting up when the sun comes up.
01:08:40.000 Yeah.
01:08:41.000 Be prepared, sir.
01:08:43.000 Get ready.
01:08:46.000 Yeah, there's so many different factors that lead to a healthy body, but how much of a healthy body leads to a happy mind?
01:08:53.000 That's where it gets, like, you can't blame some of these people that are suffering from, like, a disease.
01:08:58.000 Some of these people that have, like, something wrong with the way their brain is producing.
01:09:02.000 These happy hormones.
01:09:03.000 Yeah, I don't think you can say it's just this one thing like, well, if you just ate clean or if you just went keto or you just ate paleo, then you wouldn't have depression.
01:09:10.000 I don't think that's it at all.
01:09:11.000 But certainly that's a factor.
01:09:13.000 It certainly could be a factor.
01:09:16.000 Being in nature is a factor.
01:09:18.000 And unpacking trauma.
01:09:20.000 Gabra Mate says at the heart of all fucking addiction is some form of trauma.
01:09:25.000 Yeah, I'm sure.
01:09:27.000 Completely makes sense.
01:09:28.000 Yeah, his theories on that are fascinating.
01:09:30.000 I never thought about it that way.
01:09:32.000 At some point, trauma during your developmental stage has led you to, like, seek out this weird, crazy feeling and experience.
01:09:40.000 Have you known many people that have had, like, serious addictions, like meth?
01:09:46.000 Oh, yeah.
01:09:48.000 Yeah.
01:09:50.000 Without naming names, people very close to me, family members, been addicted to meth, lost a cousin to pills.
01:10:01.000 I've been going to AA, not for me, for a family member, since I was three years old.
01:10:07.000 So I've seen that, you know.
01:10:10.000 What have...
01:10:11.000 Now, is that trauma-based?
01:10:14.000 Is everything...
01:10:15.000 Because pills...
01:10:16.000 Don't pills just kind of get everybody?
01:10:18.000 Yeah, pills can get everybody.
01:10:20.000 There's no doubt about that.
01:10:22.000 Unless you wean yourself off, you have real issues, right?
01:10:25.000 There was some trauma there in all of those circumstances.
01:10:27.000 And I'm not saying...
01:10:28.000 Pills can fucking grab you.
01:10:29.000 There's no doubt.
01:10:31.000 But certainly with...
01:10:33.000 The meth and the alcohol, which was other things, you know, no doubt there was trauma there.
01:10:38.000 Yeah, I've known of quite a few people that got fucked up on pills after operations or injuries or stuff like that, but I know quite a few of them that kicked it, you know, that just realized it was happening.
01:10:50.000 Like, Schaub talked about it quite a bit.
01:10:53.000 When he fought Cro Cop, his nose was destroyed, so they had to rebuild his nose and he started taking pain pills.
01:10:59.000 And he said after a while, he's just taking them every day just because he wanted to take them.
01:11:02.000 And then his friends came over and cleaned out his medicine cabinet and went, cut the shit, dude.
01:11:07.000 Four months later, you're still taking these things all day long.
01:11:09.000 You can't do that anymore.
01:11:10.000 And he's like, whoa.
01:11:12.000 He said he almost didn't even realize he was doing it.
01:11:14.000 It just kind of caught a hold of him.
01:11:16.000 Yeah, shit becomes habit, especially when it's that euphoric.
01:11:19.000 Must be amazing.
01:11:20.000 You know what I took the other day?
01:11:22.000 I took a large dose of kratom.
01:11:24.000 Ooh!
01:11:25.000 Yeah, everybody always tells you that kratom is one thing at a small dose.
01:11:30.000 You know, it's kind of two pills, to me, seems almost like a stimulant.
01:11:36.000 Yeah, yeah, 100%.
01:11:37.000 Yeah, and even up to four pills.
01:11:40.000 But you get in the land of eight pills.
01:11:42.000 I took eight pills the other day.
01:11:44.000 I was like, whoa, I'm high.
01:11:47.000 I'm fully functional.
01:11:48.000 I'm not worried about the way my body moves.
01:11:51.000 It's not like I'm going to fall down when I'm walking.
01:11:53.000 Everything seems like it's working good, but I'm clearly high.
01:11:56.000 But I'm not high in a bad way.
01:11:58.000 I can talk fine.
01:12:00.000 I can remember things, full conversations, happy, remember people's names, but I'm definitely high.
01:12:06.000 Yeah, Kratom's a funny one.
01:12:08.000 It's still an opiate.
01:12:10.000 It's still hitting those receptors in the brain.
01:12:11.000 Is it actually an opiate?
01:12:12.000 Yeah, I believe it is.
01:12:15.000 Hamilton Morris from Hamilton's Pharmacopias.
01:12:17.000 He's coming on soon.
01:12:19.000 That's one of the things he says, because he's not spiritual, even though he does all these psychedelics.
01:12:25.000 So he gets really pissed off and people call it plant medicine or Tisha Planner and Theogen and shit like that.
01:12:30.000 He's like, you have to fucking say it.
01:12:31.000 You call it what it is, right?
01:12:32.000 I'm sure you did.
01:12:34.000 There's a lot of that fuckery though, right?
01:12:35.000 There is.
01:12:36.000 But at the same time, I mean...
01:12:38.000 It's also real in a lot of times.
01:12:39.000 Yeah, you can take mushrooms recreationally or you can do the heroic dose and be guided.
01:12:44.000 You can do ayahuasca in the Amazon and it's a fucking world different.
01:12:48.000 Oh, for sure.
01:12:49.000 It's a totally different experience.
01:12:50.000 Yeah.
01:12:50.000 Yeah, going back to Kratom.
01:12:52.000 Thankfully, I've always had this thing with opiates where if I had too much, I get nauseated really bad.
01:12:57.000 So I can take one or two pills and it is a mild stimulant.
01:13:00.000 I drove to Greenfield's house when I was living in Vegas to podcast with him.
01:13:04.000 A thousand miles each direction.
01:13:06.000 And I just have one pill every three hours.
01:13:08.000 Wow.
01:13:09.000 And it was awesome.
01:13:10.000 I was fucking...
01:13:11.000 I felt great.
01:13:12.000 So one pill every three hours just kept you focused while you're driving?
01:13:15.000 Yeah, and there's mild euphoria.
01:13:16.000 I felt good being in that little-ass Prius the whole way, which is important, right?
01:13:21.000 Let me sweeten the deal.
01:13:22.000 I don't even know how you climb in that thing.
01:13:23.000 I've got to fucking get in there.
01:13:25.000 Those things are so small.
01:13:27.000 If I take three or more, I'm fucked up.
01:13:29.000 I'm riding that fence.
01:13:31.000 Am I going to puke?
01:13:31.000 Am I going to puke?
01:13:32.000 So I think that so even for you they have the same reaction that like an oxy would have yep, and I've had I mean in college I did some weird shit.
01:13:41.000 I keistered an oxy once and Felt fucking for the folks not learned in the ways of the dirty dogs He put it up his asshole two knuckles deep not super keyster knuckles deep people that people are like what keistered It's a big guy.
01:13:55.000 Let's do our good dudes would just go.
01:13:57.000 Oh Yeah.
01:13:59.000 Last time when I was on your show, you were like, oh, you lost me when you told me the trees started talking to you when I was describing an ayahuasca experience.
01:14:07.000 That'll be the one this time.
01:14:08.000 You lost me when you talked about putting a pill up your ass.
01:14:12.000 That's when they turn off the podcast.
01:14:15.000 But yeah, I felt fucking great that one time.
01:14:17.000 I snorted one later, like a few weeks later, and I was fucked up.
01:14:22.000 I was fucking puking the whole time.
01:14:24.000 You snorted it?
01:14:25.000 You could suck off the...
01:14:27.000 I don't want to tell people how to do bad drugs.
01:14:29.000 I want to tell people how to do good drugs.
01:14:30.000 Why would you snort it?
01:14:32.000 Because it goes right into your bloodstream?
01:14:33.000 Yeah.
01:14:34.000 You know, you can suck off that time release, crush it up, let it dry.
01:14:38.000 Wow.
01:14:38.000 So, but that ultimately, that was like, well, yeah, there's still, thankfully, I still have this fucking regulator in my body that says, don't put these fucking super addictive man-made chemicals in your body.
01:14:48.000 That's fascinating.
01:14:49.000 Do you think it's Kratom man-made?
01:14:51.000 No, it's sort of a plant, right?
01:14:53.000 It is plant-based.
01:14:53.000 I mean, all this shit's plant-based.
01:14:55.000 The issue is when we take something and we fucking concentrate it and change it in a way that We're good to go.
01:15:22.000 Have you ever had coca tea?
01:15:24.000 I've had coca tea.
01:15:25.000 I've thrown coca leaf.
01:15:26.000 They call it Mambé in Colombia.
01:15:28.000 You chew it in your mouth?
01:15:29.000 Yeah.
01:15:29.000 How is it?
01:15:30.000 It's fucking amazing.
01:15:31.000 Really?
01:15:31.000 It's like a cup of coffee though.
01:15:32.000 Like less jittery.
01:15:34.000 Your brain turns on.
01:15:35.000 It's a nootropic.
01:15:36.000 You feel like a million bucks.
01:15:38.000 It's good shit.
01:15:38.000 We can't have it because of Miami.
01:15:40.000 They fucked us.
01:15:43.000 Their whole city is made out of coke.
01:15:46.000 Did you know that?
01:15:48.000 No.
01:15:48.000 No, dude.
01:15:49.000 Have you ever seen Cocaine Cowboys?
01:15:51.000 Yes.
01:15:52.000 Dude, that's all Miami.
01:15:54.000 All that area of Florida.
01:15:56.000 At one point in time, I don't know if it's still the case, but Miami had more banks per capita than any place else in the country.
01:16:02.000 Because everybody was just laundering coke money.
01:16:04.000 And coke was just coming in like crazy.
01:16:06.000 There's so many great documentaries on it.
01:16:08.000 It's a really, really fascinating time in history.
01:16:12.000 Cocaine Cowboys once, shout out to Billy Corbin...
01:16:15.000 The first one, they talked about how many of these police officers wound up dead or in jail.
01:16:23.000 And it was like an entire class, graduating class, either was dead or in jail for corruption by the time they had made this time period, however many years it was,
01:16:39.000 of this cocaine trafficking.
01:16:41.000 It was crazy, man.
01:16:45.000 Incredible time in human history.
01:16:48.000 Man.
01:16:49.000 This article says that it's ramped back up to those 1980s drug war heights of production.
01:16:57.000 Whoa.
01:16:58.000 Okay, so how's it getting in?
01:16:59.000 That's the question.
01:17:00.000 Yeah.
01:17:01.000 How are they getting it in?
01:17:02.000 I don't think that's a problem.
01:17:03.000 I don't think it is either, but how are they doing it?
01:17:05.000 And how do they...
01:17:07.000 I mean, that's a lot of money.
01:17:09.000 That's why.
01:17:10.000 Where are you putting all that money?
01:17:11.000 There's so much money in it that...
01:17:13.000 What?
01:17:13.000 Look at this.
01:17:15.000 Florida Customs and Border Protection confiscated 4,200 pounds of cocaine last year compared to 1,730 pounds the year prior.
01:17:25.000 Dude, that's so much coke.
01:17:27.000 That means the guy that was getting paid off the year before got caught.
01:17:31.000 Maybe.
01:17:32.000 How else are they getting it in?
01:17:34.000 Maybe they just caught more coke that time.
01:17:37.000 Maybe they're getting coked up and then they're taking the boats.
01:17:39.000 Yeah.
01:17:40.000 They're just taking risks.
01:17:42.000 I know where these fucking cops hide.
01:17:44.000 I know them better than they know themselves.
01:17:47.000 We've never seen cocaine production at these numbers.
01:17:49.000 Oh, Jesus Christ.
01:17:51.000 Stay the fuck out of Miami for a while, folks.
01:17:53.000 It could get crazy.
01:17:54.000 Or go there.
01:17:55.000 Or go there.
01:17:55.000 Yep.
01:17:56.000 I like the way you think, dude.
01:17:57.000 Into the fray.
01:17:58.000 You know?
01:18:00.000 Where's the party?
01:18:01.000 Miami.
01:18:01.000 The DEA estimates Columbia produced 710 tons of pure cocaine last year, or enough to fill about 18 semi-trucks.
01:18:16.000 Did you see that they found the first cocoa farm in Mexico?
01:18:21.000 Oh, Jesus.
01:18:22.000 That could be a problem.
01:18:23.000 Yeah.
01:18:24.000 Well, it actually might help with the drug wars.
01:18:27.000 Really?
01:18:27.000 If they can grow it.
01:18:28.000 Get them to fight against each other?
01:18:29.000 Is that what you're saying?
01:18:29.000 They can grow it.
01:18:30.000 Yeah.
01:18:30.000 Mexicans and Colombians have been fighting for a long ass time.
01:18:32.000 So they would start fighting with each other and that would help the drug war?
01:18:35.000 They would fight less because Mexico would have its own production.
01:18:39.000 But, I mean, they said it was growing in a place that wasn't the same altitude, and obviously cocaine is an alkaloid that is really, it grows at altitude, so you want that environmental stimulus for that.
01:18:53.000 You want the hormetic stressor in order for it to produce more cocaine pound for pound, and I think it would produce far less.
01:18:59.000 That's at least what they were saying in the article, which makes sense to me.
01:19:05.000 What's the justification for...
01:19:07.000 What is this, Jamie?
01:19:08.000 Drug mule?
01:19:09.000 Yeah, this is how they're getting it in.
01:19:10.000 It says speedboats, drug mules, and...
01:19:12.000 This poor old lady.
01:19:14.000 Look at this poor old lady.
01:19:14.000 She's holding a kilo.
01:19:15.000 She looks like she's about 70 years old.
01:19:18.000 Maybe older.
01:19:19.000 Maybe 80 years old.
01:19:20.000 And she's fully strapped up with cocaine.
01:19:23.000 I mean, who could blame this lady?
01:19:25.000 Do you think she's out there hustling?
01:19:27.000 She got a pistol in people's faces?
01:19:28.000 She got the shit beat out of her, too.
01:19:31.000 That's fucked up.
01:19:32.000 That is fucked up.
01:19:34.000 So we need more good drugs and less bad drugs.
01:19:38.000 We definitely need more good drugs.
01:19:40.000 We need to do something to get this This wave of negativity that so many people are experiencing on a regular basis.
01:19:50.000 Settle that down and bring that up.
01:19:52.000 Do you know anybody that's done ketamine treatment?
01:19:55.000 Yes.
01:19:56.000 And pretty good results, right?
01:19:58.000 Neil Brennan had very good results.
01:20:00.000 He liked it quite a bit.
01:20:02.000 He's done a bunch of different things for depression.
01:20:05.000 Magnetic things and ketamine things.
01:20:07.000 He said ketamine was very effective.
01:20:09.000 Yeah, I had one of my first coaches, a striking coach.
01:20:13.000 He had, you know, he'd been put on every kind of fucking SSRI for years and just felt like shit.
01:20:19.000 And he did four ketamine treatments and he's down to like one SSRI. He's off 90% of his medication.
01:20:27.000 He says he's never felt better.
01:20:29.000 And like that shitty voice that everyone has in their head that was so loud for him is non-existent now.
01:20:34.000 Whoa.
01:20:35.000 Yeah, we got to do that.
01:20:36.000 Dr. Craig put us through slightly different.
01:20:39.000 Most of the people that I think that are doing ketamine treatment do it IV. We had an intramuscular injection of ketamine.
01:20:45.000 That's the John Lilly.
01:20:46.000 It was fucking insane.
01:20:48.000 Like, 40 minutes long.
01:20:52.000 And it was kind of tied in with the stem cells, really, to just be in a state of allowing and whatever subconscious level of accepting this foreign substance into your body, let's kind of move the needle on that.
01:21:02.000 Again, that's theory.
01:21:04.000 What's the experience like?
01:21:06.000 It's a psychedelic, right?
01:21:07.000 It is, but it's different.
01:21:08.000 So, again, we talked about the classical types.
01:21:11.000 Tryptamine Bay is going to fit in serotonin receptors in different parts of the brain.
01:21:16.000 This is a dissociative.
01:21:18.000 So it pulls you back layers.
01:21:19.000 You know, like we talked about Eckhart Tolle last time, how he talks, be the observer, be the witness of your thoughts.
01:21:25.000 You're not your thoughts.
01:21:26.000 Just pull yourself back a layer and kind of see your mind chatter as this interesting thing, like kids arguing, right?
01:21:32.000 This will force that.
01:21:33.000 And it pulls you back layers beyond that, like to the point where You know you're not in your body.
01:21:40.000 But when you reenter your body, there's a lot of gratitude.
01:21:43.000 And you can kind of see things where they are.
01:21:45.000 You understand now, like, oh, this is how I was feeling before.
01:21:49.000 But I've been removed from it long enough to when I come back to it, I can recognize it for what it is.
01:21:55.000 And I don't have depression now.
01:21:57.000 So doing it was just more of a, let's see what happens.
01:22:01.000 Kind of intention as opposed to people that are going in there working on shit.
01:22:06.000 Might be a bit different for them.
01:22:07.000 But it was fucking bananas.
01:22:10.000 Yeah, I've never touched it.
01:22:12.000 I knew a guy who got addicted to it though as a street drug, as a party drug.
01:22:16.000 You know, some people snort it.
01:22:17.000 Yeah, I've snorted it.
01:22:18.000 Yeah.
01:22:18.000 What does it do?
01:22:19.000 It's, you know, it's kind of like LSD. You have a microdose of LSD. Completely different experience than a full hit or two to five to whatever.
01:22:28.000 All different experiences.
01:22:30.000 You know, if you take like a key bump, a key bump for people with the lack of the terminology would just be like the end of a key is worth.
01:22:37.000 Key bump?
01:22:38.000 Into a bag.
01:22:39.000 You just quick little snort.
01:22:41.000 Okay.
01:22:43.000 It's very relaxing.
01:22:44.000 You want to move.
01:22:45.000 But if you push the envelope a little bit, because it's disassociative, it's very disorienting.
01:22:52.000 Like, I don't know where the fuck I am or what's going on.
01:22:55.000 If you go really far, it's similar to injecting it, where you go in the K-hole, you're kind of paralyzed, and close your eyes, you're in a different spot.
01:23:04.000 You're in a different spot.
01:23:05.000 But the psychedelic trip from that is...
01:23:07.000 You said you're in a different spot, like you're in a different place, like psychedelic?
01:23:09.000 Yeah, like you could be...
01:23:11.000 I mean, for 30 to 45 minutes, you could be in a vision.
01:23:15.000 You could be elsewhere.
01:23:16.000 Your consciousness is not in your body.
01:23:19.000 Dude.
01:23:21.000 That's the K-hole.
01:23:22.000 Yeah, that's the K-hole.
01:23:23.000 Yeah.
01:23:24.000 The guy who invented the sensory deprivation tank used to do it intramuscularly and then climb into the tank.
01:23:30.000 Yeah, I heard that he had...
01:23:32.000 At one point by the end he was so hooked on it that he would run an IV so he could stay on 24 hours in there.
01:23:38.000 But you know, I was telling you about that book that he wrote, The Center of the Cyclone.
01:23:41.000 Yeah.
01:23:42.000 That was a fucking fascinating book because he would get, as a medical doctor, 300 He'd get ampules of 300 IU from Sandoz Pharmaceuticals, a pharmaceutical-grade LSD, do that intravenous, then get in the float tank for 10 hours.
01:23:57.000 And the trip reports he has, when you read these, they're very ayahuasca-esque, like talking to other beings and other consciousness, DMT-like experience, but 10 hours, not fucking 15 minutes.
01:24:09.000 Just fastening like he's and as a doctor so with detailed in his explanation of what he's seeing what it means to him Pretty fucking cool That's an experience that once you know that you can have I don't know that if I I would have a real hard time Fitting into regular life.
01:24:31.000 If I knew that I could just have that 10-hour, like the DMT flash of 15 minutes of the weirdest interactions with whatever they are, whatever those things are, when you come back, imagine that for 10 hours.
01:24:46.000 It might, you know, it might just change everything about your perceptions of life.
01:24:52.000 You might just give up on civilization and move to the forest or something.
01:24:56.000 And that's exactly what happened to the Unabomber.
01:24:58.000 You know, the Unabomber is a part of the Harvard LSD studies.
01:25:02.000 They juiced that guy to the tits.
01:25:04.000 Damn.
01:25:06.000 And then afterwards he went to be a professor at Berkeley so he could save up enough money so he could buy a fucking house in the woods and blow up the people that are creating technology.
01:25:16.000 Because the technology is what's going to supplant human beings.
01:25:19.000 It's going to...
01:25:27.000 Yeah, but that's an odd take.
01:25:30.000 I had a different take on technology in an ayahuasca ceremony where I saw...
01:25:35.000 Pretty much what's happening now.
01:25:36.000 It was like this beautiful merging.
01:25:38.000 It wasn't man left behind.
01:25:39.000 It wasn't super intelligence with Nick Bostrom where we have to worry about this thing taking over.
01:25:43.000 We fucking stayed neck and neck with it and integrate with it throughout.
01:25:47.000 And we do change.
01:25:49.000 We're not the fucking same, but we're not the same now.
01:25:51.000 That's one of the things they talked about.
01:25:52.000 Who's the first cyborg?
01:25:54.000 Eyeglasses.
01:25:55.000 You wear fucking eyeglasses, you're a fucking cyborg.
01:25:57.000 That's man-made technology integrated into your being that changes your perception of reality.
01:26:02.000 Sure.
01:26:02.000 Right?
01:26:03.000 So we're already doing that with our fucking phones.
01:26:05.000 We're already there.
01:26:07.000 Cars.
01:26:08.000 Yeah, you have this weird idea that it has to be implanted into you in order for that to be the case.
01:26:12.000 We're already fucking there.
01:26:14.000 Yeah, we're there both with the connection, with this thing that's always in our pocket, and then with transportation.
01:26:21.000 And then your transportation hooks up to the connection so you can listen to things.
01:26:25.000 You know, like, I mean, how many times are you in your car listening to a book on tape through Bluetooth, you know, or a podcast that you download?
01:26:30.000 That's everything.
01:26:31.000 Aubrey has a chapter in his book on the day on that.
01:26:34.000 It's mindfulness or mindfulness.
01:26:37.000 So when you're driving, what's the worst part of fucking most people's days?
01:26:40.000 The commute, right?
01:26:41.000 So you can choose to be a pissed off guy, you can listen to talk radio, you can do all these things, or you can practice mindfulness meditation.
01:26:48.000 Where you're resetting yourself.
01:26:50.000 You're giving yourself some quiet time.
01:26:51.000 Obviously, eyes are open while your hands are on the wheel.
01:26:53.000 Or you do mindfulness where you fucking throw on a dope podcast or a book from Audible.
01:26:59.000 And you would take information in that's going to help you fucking grow as a person, right?
01:27:04.000 Or just even be entertaining.
01:27:06.000 I enjoy fictional books.
01:27:07.000 I like some fiction on audiobooks.
01:27:11.000 What's your favorite fiction?
01:27:12.000 You know what?
01:27:13.000 I love Stephen King books, but I do not like it when he reads them.
01:27:16.000 You need to hire a fucking professional, goddammit.
01:27:21.000 I like the author.
01:27:23.000 I do, almost always.
01:27:25.000 I'm reading The Tipping Point from Malcolm Gladwell, and hearing him do the audio part is great.
01:27:33.000 Because he's very passionate about the subject matter and he's the guy that wrote it and so him reading out these results and all these different facts and really fascinating things about the tipping point and you know certain trends is Stephen King is like he's a brilliant brilliant writer like one of my favorite writers for sure my favorite horror writer I loved his shit like I used to read him when I was taking the train to go to taekwondo practice I would read Stephen King books all day long.
01:28:01.000 That's all I'd read So I was always a giant fan as, but as a professional actor, perhaps do a more spirited job.
01:28:09.000 I've had some fucking bad actors on Audible.
01:28:13.000 Yeah, you can get some bad ones.
01:28:14.000 You know, but like radio hosts, you know, like in the next chapter, we're going to tell you why advanced glycation end products are the devil.
01:28:22.000 And you're like, fuck off, dude.
01:28:24.000 Like it's just, it ruins it for me.
01:28:26.000 Well, especially when telling a story, this is my thing.
01:28:29.000 You need someone who has a very good sense of theater, like the way they communicate the words, the way they say the words, the emphasis they put on each individual word, especially with fiction.
01:28:42.000 That's really important.
01:28:44.000 It's odd to me, though, that Audible doesn't coach him on that, because Aubrey was saying when he did the book, he was non-fucking-stop coaching.
01:28:52.000 Aubrey?
01:28:53.000 Yeah, if he was reading something, they'd be like, excuse me, Mr. Marcus, we're going to have you go ahead and reread, starting at the top of the page.
01:29:00.000 It sounds like your mind's in a different place.
01:29:02.000 They would catch everything, every influx, because he's got to read far ahead, you've got to know where you're going with it, all that shit.
01:29:10.000 Maybe they've changed over time with their approach to that.
01:29:14.000 Well, I think it's probably completely different for different subject matter.
01:29:19.000 Aubrey's book is obviously a self-help book, Own the Day.
01:29:23.000 but other books that are stories about like monsters or some shit like that like what's required of the the guy reading and has to have a sense of theater he's telling a story there's got to be a the pauses have to be like a professional like a professional voice actor those that's what you want for those things yeah they're better at it they're just Stephen King's a wizard at writing I mean he's fucking phenomenal but I don't want to hear him doing different voices and shit like it's just too weird You know,
01:29:53.000 he's got a great book, though, and it's great not just for writers, but for everybody.
01:29:58.000 It's Stephen King on writing.
01:30:00.000 It's really interesting, because there's a lot of his life and work philosophy in the book.
01:30:06.000 And I feel like when I read about someone who is, in my opinion, a One of the greatest contributors to, like, fun books and fun horror movies.
01:30:19.000 I mean, he's an all-time king to me.
01:30:21.000 And so to be able to say, like, well, what was going on in that guy's head as he was writing Carrie?
01:30:27.000 Like, how did he conceive of Christine?
01:30:30.000 Like, what's his process?
01:30:31.000 What's his process for writing?
01:30:33.000 It's really interesting, man.
01:30:35.000 First of all, he doesn't even know what the fuck he's gonna write.
01:30:38.000 When he starts something, he doesn't know where he's going.
01:30:40.000 He just does it.
01:30:42.000 And as he's doing it, he figures out where it's going to go.
01:30:45.000 That's part of the genius of his method, is that it's not like this sort of like...
01:30:50.000 He doesn't have a fucking outline before he gets into it.
01:30:52.000 Yeah, Bob is going to get bit by the snake, and then Bob's going to turn into a horse, and then all this stuff is going to happen, and then his wife's going to fall in love with that horse, and then he's going to be mad when he becomes a person again.
01:31:01.000 He just goes with it.
01:31:02.000 He just shows up every day and just puts in the time and focuses on it and then makes it happen.
01:31:12.000 What a crazy way to make a living.
01:31:15.000 To just invent stories and weird things that happen and just put it all together in your head and then give it to people like, look what I've done.
01:31:22.000 I came up with a story and then you open it like, fuck, where's the story going?
01:31:26.000 This story's crazy.
01:31:27.000 It's a really interesting way to make a living because he's using, like he's flexing one very specific part of his brain that Most people don't really use it all, or hardly ever use.
01:31:40.000 Most of us don't have any type of creativity left.
01:31:43.000 It's sucked out through school.
01:31:45.000 For work.
01:31:46.000 Yeah, we're fucking taught to just go sit and be a cog in the machine.
01:31:50.000 Unless you're super fortunate and have a job where you can create.
01:31:53.000 Yeah.
01:31:53.000 Yeah.
01:31:55.000 Yeah, man.
01:31:56.000 Gotta tickle that piece, though.
01:31:58.000 I met this guy, Ted Decker, who's one of fucking Aubrey's greatest mentors out in Sedona.
01:32:03.000 And he's a fictional writer for the most part.
01:32:05.000 But just fucking...
01:32:07.000 He's a wizard.
01:32:08.000 And I was doing a water fast.
01:32:11.000 So I had a five-day water fast.
01:32:13.000 Just water?
01:32:13.000 Just water for five days.
01:32:15.000 How long did you make it?
01:32:16.000 Four and a half.
01:32:17.000 Damn.
01:32:17.000 You came up half a day early?
01:32:19.000 Well, the thing was...
01:32:20.000 You were so close to home.
01:32:21.000 The thing was...
01:32:23.000 The science show is four days, right?
01:32:24.000 Four days is the magic mark.
01:32:26.000 So the extra day was just like, all right, I got an extra day to go.
01:32:29.000 But we hiked Cathedral Rock in Sedona, and it's fucking epic.
01:32:34.000 And there is an energy there, like New York, but different.
01:32:37.000 But what's going on with Sedona?
01:32:39.000 Why is Sedona all this?
01:32:40.000 This is Sedona.
01:32:41.000 Well, from what I understand, why it's the hippies, travelers guide, and everybody wants to be there, is...
01:32:49.000 Are you familiar with pulse electromagnetic frequency?
01:32:52.000 I've heard those words put together in that order.
01:32:55.000 So for everyone that's about to jump on the fucking woo-woo bandwagon and shit on me right now, punch in the Google bar.
01:33:01.000 Do me a solid punch in the Google bar.
01:33:03.000 NASA study on PEMF. Okay, let's check this.
01:33:07.000 Three-year fucking study.
01:33:08.000 It's verified.
01:33:09.000 The Earth has its own energy field.
01:33:11.000 Whether you think the Earth's alive and its guy and all that, I'll leave that up to you.
01:33:15.000 But it has its own fucking energy field.
01:33:18.000 And so it's not the same.
01:33:19.000 It's not equal throughout the Earth.
01:33:21.000 There are places where that's accentuated, and you feel that more.
01:33:24.000 You feel it more when you're in the ocean.
01:33:26.000 There's negative ions there.
01:33:27.000 Wallace J. Nichols wrote...
01:33:29.000 Physiological and molecular genetic effects of time-varying electromagnetic fields on human neuronal cells.
01:33:38.000 I've never seen that word before.
01:33:40.000 Neuronal?
01:33:41.000 Neuronal?
01:33:42.000 Neuronal cells.
01:33:43.000 Neuronal.
01:33:44.000 Why is it just because it's all in caps that it looks so weird to me?
01:33:49.000 You know, occasionally a word just looks weird.
01:33:50.000 That looks weird, that word.
01:33:53.000 Neuronal?
01:33:54.000 Neuronal.
01:33:54.000 There's a good book, PEMF. I forget the author, but I think it has to do with that.
01:34:00.000 I think it has to do with that.
01:34:02.000 So you really do feel that energy there.
01:34:04.000 It's palpable and it's not fucking make-believe.
01:34:07.000 So knowing that we'd be in this special place, Knowing that I'd be with some really interesting people and that if I was to take some medicine at that point in time after fasting for four days.
01:34:20.000 What Hamilton Morrison would call drugs.
01:34:22.000 Yes, what he would call drugs.
01:34:23.000 What?
01:34:25.000 So I had 200 micrograms of LSD. Okay.
01:34:28.000 And I won't mention anybody else that had it with me just because maybe don't sign off on that kind of shit publicly.
01:34:33.000 But we hiked to the top of the Cathedral Rock and it's fucking incredible.
01:34:37.000 I mean, incredible.
01:34:39.000 And another buddy of mine who's a teacher at Black Swan Yoga, he brought up some really good cacao from the chocolate, but pure fucking cacao from Guatemala.
01:34:48.000 He made it into these drinks.
01:34:50.000 And that's what I broke the fast with.
01:34:53.000 Oh, wow.
01:34:53.000 And there's chemicals in that.
01:34:55.000 It's funny when people fucking qualify as drugs, because, like Terrence and Dennis McKenna say, we are walking bags of chemicals.
01:35:01.000 This caffeine that I'm drinking right now is a fucking drug.
01:35:05.000 100%.
01:35:05.000 100%.
01:35:05.000 Theobromine in cacao is a drug.
01:35:08.000 It's an alkaloid in cacao that...
01:35:11.000 We'll elevate heart rate.
01:35:12.000 It's a mild diuretic, and it fucking opens the heart.
01:35:16.000 It's like a microdose of MDMA. Really?
01:35:20.000 Cacao is?
01:35:21.000 Stacking that.
01:35:21.000 Why do you think people fucking love chocolate?
01:35:23.000 What?
01:35:24.000 It's amazing.
01:35:25.000 Theobromine's special shit.
01:35:27.000 But chocolate would have the tiniest amount of it.
01:35:28.000 Is that the case?
01:35:29.000 It depends what chocolate you're eating, right?
01:35:30.000 If you're eating some really bitter dark chocolate, that's going to have higher amounts.
01:35:35.000 But we had a fuckton of this.
01:35:37.000 You're supposed to have four ounces is a good dose.
01:35:40.000 Four ounces of liquid?
01:35:41.000 This liquid, with their special preparation method.
01:35:46.000 My special blend, my friend.
01:35:48.000 Special blend.
01:35:49.000 So what is the, like, what is, is like a shake?
01:35:53.000 Like, is there other stuff in it?
01:35:55.000 Yeah, there's some cayenne, there's lemon juice, there's different things that help activate it.
01:35:59.000 It's done the way the Mayans did.
01:36:00.000 It's been passed down generation after generation.
01:36:02.000 And it's like microdosing MDMA? Yeah, and so stack that with...
01:36:07.000 The LSD and it's kind of like a candy flip.
01:36:09.000 Now, could people just go buy cacao and micro-dosed MDMA? Well, you got to order it offline or online and do the preparation properly, but I mean, there's no doubt you feel different.
01:36:19.000 It's warming, you feel more loving, you're sensitive to touch.
01:36:22.000 But this is not in any way illegal, right?
01:36:26.000 No, it's not in any way illegal.
01:36:27.000 Cacao is food.
01:36:28.000 Yeah, I've been talking to a guy who's like, look, if they fucking just discovered cacao today, they would say, Potentially, this is a drug.
01:36:35.000 I've never heard this before.
01:36:37.000 This is fascinating.
01:36:37.000 Theobromine.
01:36:38.000 Fucking look it up.
01:36:38.000 There's a ton of shit.
01:36:40.000 This guy that's on selfhacked.com, I forget his name, but he's a wizard, and he has amazing articles on different chemicals.
01:36:47.000 Wow.
01:36:47.000 He talks about 13 scientifically backed studies on theobromine that are all human studies.
01:36:52.000 Dude.
01:36:52.000 It's dope shit.
01:36:53.000 So anyways, we take this, and we climb the mountain.
01:36:57.000 We're in nature.
01:36:57.000 We're doing fucking Wim Hof breathing and different shit up there.
01:37:00.000 We looked the part.
01:37:01.000 We were sticking out like sore thumbs.
01:37:03.000 Like a fucking 230 pound guy with his shirt off doing...
01:37:06.000 Why snorting cacao could be the next party drug.
01:37:09.000 Next big party drug.
01:37:11.000 Oh my god.
01:37:12.000 And that's on Maxim.com.
01:37:14.000 Jesus Christ, this is crazy.
01:37:17.000 We take our substances, we're up there, and this guy, he's got like 12 books that are number one bestsellers.
01:37:24.000 This guy's gonna snort it.
01:37:26.000 Oh, is he joking around?
01:37:28.000 He's joking around as fuck.
01:37:29.000 I don't think so.
01:37:30.000 He's not snorting.
01:37:31.000 Oh, those are key bumps.
01:37:33.000 Key bumps.
01:37:33.000 What are you saying?
01:37:35.000 He's going to snort that?
01:37:36.000 Yep.
01:37:36.000 He is going to snort that.
01:37:37.000 Here we go.
01:37:38.000 Let me see what you got, son.
01:37:39.000 Fucking pound it.
01:37:40.000 You pound it?
01:37:41.000 You just pounded up your nose?
01:37:43.000 Atta boy.
01:37:44.000 Actually, I have snorted Theo Bromain recently as the office guinea pig.
01:37:48.000 That's not the way I would recommend administering it.
01:37:50.000 What's wrong with going up the nose?
01:37:52.000 Uncomfortable?
01:37:54.000 It's not that bad.
01:37:55.000 No?
01:37:56.000 That's not a blanket recommendation for people, though.
01:37:59.000 But this is not a dangerous substance.
01:38:01.000 No.
01:38:02.000 No.
01:38:02.000 I mean, too much of it, you know, there's a fucking upper limit to anything, even water.
01:38:06.000 But, you know, on the mountain, going back to this, on the mountain with Ted Decker.
01:38:10.000 Ted Decker.
01:38:10.000 Hi, Ted.
01:38:11.000 Ted's the fucking man.
01:38:12.000 And he's written all these books and he's like, would you like me to tell a story?
01:38:16.000 And imagine you're sitting with Stephen King on LSD on the mountaintop and he says, would you like me to tell you a story?
01:38:22.000 That level of fucking writer.
01:38:24.000 And he goes into one of his books and I was fucking sold, like just drawn right in.
01:38:30.000 I could see everything, fucking alien worlds, all this shit that she's got to battle.
01:38:35.000 And you really see like just the mind, like how creative the mind can be.
01:38:40.000 It blew me the fuck away.
01:38:41.000 Of course, the substance has helped me draw me into it, but man, he's a special guy.
01:38:46.000 Well, there's quite a few special people out there, which is why we're so lucky we can go to the movies.
01:38:52.000 You know what I mean?
01:38:53.000 I mean, think of how much fucking creativity, how much thought and imagining scenarios and putting them all together that it takes to make, like I saw The Incredibles 2 yesterday.
01:39:03.000 Is it?
01:39:03.000 Oh, fucking incredible!
01:39:04.000 I love the first one.
01:39:05.000 I didn't even mean to say incredible because it's The Incredibles.
01:39:08.000 It's great.
01:39:09.000 We're considering taking Bear to that, but he's only three, so we're not sure if he'll appreciate it.
01:39:13.000 He loves those movies at home, but, you know, he talks and shit like that.
01:39:17.000 But little kids talk at the movie theater when you go to little kid movies.
01:39:20.000 It's normal.
01:39:20.000 It's cool.
01:39:20.000 There's other little kids doing it, too.
01:39:22.000 Yeah, we think we might do that for The Incredibles, too.
01:39:24.000 So they're fucking so good.
01:39:25.000 The Pixar movies are so good.
01:39:26.000 Did you ever see The Good Dinosaur?
01:39:29.000 That doesn't...
01:39:29.000 I've got to be honest.
01:39:30.000 That does annoy people, though.
01:39:31.000 If you go when a bunch of teenagers are there or, like, young adults and the baby starts talking...
01:39:36.000 They should be, like, a day...
01:39:38.000 There should be certain shows.
01:39:40.000 They do them now.
01:39:41.000 First show of the day, and the kids are allowed to talk.
01:39:43.000 First show of the day in a lot of theaters do that.
01:39:45.000 Oh, see, that's smart.
01:39:46.000 For the matinee.
01:39:47.000 That's smart.
01:39:48.000 That's smart.
01:39:49.000 But damn, that opens up the door if you tell them they're allowed to talk.
01:39:53.000 Yeah, that's true.
01:39:53.000 I'd still try to keep it quiet.
01:39:55.000 But dude, Good Dinosaur, Pixar movie, and they fucking trip balls in the movie.
01:40:00.000 Oh, yeah.
01:40:01.000 What did they eat?
01:40:01.000 Yeah, they eat like some rotten fruit and the fucking green dinosaur grows like four eyes.
01:40:06.000 Then they switch heads and they're running through everywhere.
01:40:08.000 I forgot all about that.
01:40:09.000 With each other's skulls.
01:40:10.000 He sticks his tongue out and he's got the kid's face for his tongue.
01:40:14.000 It was awesome.
01:40:15.000 I forgot all about that.
01:40:16.000 They're trickling it in.
01:40:17.000 The society's changing.
01:40:18.000 You think?
01:40:20.000 Yeah.
01:40:20.000 Fuck yeah.
01:40:21.000 For sure.
01:40:21.000 Fuck yeah.
01:40:22.000 It's the renaissance.
01:40:23.000 Michael Pollan said that and he's not even an advocate.
01:40:25.000 He knows it's changing.
01:40:27.000 Well, he's kind of more of an advocate now, certainly, than he was before he wrote that book, his most recent book on psychedelics.
01:40:33.000 That changed his life.
01:40:35.000 I think it's a smart play if you're a person in his position to say, like, look, I'm just an advocate for the science.
01:40:42.000 But as Rick Doblin says, when this stuff becomes available to people, it's never going to be you go fill your fucking prescription of psilocybin at Walgreens and you can go fuck off anywhere you want.
01:40:53.000 They'll have facility centers where people can go and it'll be guided, the right circumstances, set and setting will be paid attention to.
01:41:01.000 But in that experience, It shouldn't just be for sick people.
01:41:06.000 It shouldn't just be for people with depression or PTSD or some type of, you know, rape victims.
01:41:11.000 Fill in the blank.
01:41:12.000 It should be healthy individuals that also want to have a deeper connection and to figure shit out and have new perspective in life, right?
01:41:20.000 And Poland, I would qualify as that.
01:41:22.000 I think he's a healthy guy.
01:41:25.000 Heart shit aside, he's a healthy guy who wanted to have an experience that would draw him in a little deeper so he could understand.
01:41:32.000 And now when you listen to him talk about it, there's no doubt he's fucking sold on it.
01:41:36.000 Yeah, I think what you're saying is really important because I don't think there should be any restrictions on something that's super beneficial.
01:41:41.000 If there's no real indications that it's hurting these people, and it's all these indications that it's helping these people, especially when it comes to trauma.
01:41:48.000 Look, man, There's certain people that for sure have experienced way more trauma than others.
01:41:55.000 There's certain people that have been to war.
01:41:58.000 They've lost friends.
01:41:59.000 They've been involved in car accidents.
01:42:01.000 There's certain people that have been through things that are just horrific and almost impossible to forget.
01:42:07.000 And that is a fact that they should have access to this medicine.
01:42:11.000 But just because, like, some girl lived her life and didn't have anything traumatic happen to her, and she's trying to find her way in this world, and she's trying to figure out, you know, what is insecurity?
01:42:22.000 Or what is my connection to these people?
01:42:25.000 What are my real passions and drives in life?
01:42:27.000 She says, I'm gonna take some sort of a...
01:42:31.000 MDMA, Molly trip and find out how I feel about things.
01:42:35.000 Find out if it gives me anything.
01:42:37.000 She should be able to do it too.
01:42:38.000 She should be able to experiment with her brain and see, like, hey, all these people are reporting super positive experiences.
01:42:45.000 What, am I supposed to ignore it?
01:42:46.000 Because some bureaucrat has decided for whatever connection they have to some pharmaceutical companies that you fucking keep this gate tight on making anything legal.
01:42:56.000 Anything you make legal is going to fuck with my bottom line.
01:43:00.000 And that's what a lot of people think.
01:43:01.000 And so there's this weird sort of disconnect between the people that want the drugs and the people that won't let you have the drugs.
01:43:09.000 Like, who are you working for?
01:43:10.000 The people that won't let us have the drugs?
01:43:12.000 And why do these other people that don't want the drugs think the drugs are bad?
01:43:15.000 Do they have any pot experience themselves?
01:43:18.000 No.
01:43:18.000 Well, then you can't vote about pot, you fuck.
01:43:21.000 You know, I mean, that's crazy, right?
01:43:23.000 You shouldn't be a doctor unless you go to med school.
01:43:25.000 You shouldn't talk about driving a car if you've never driven a fucking car.
01:43:30.000 You can't talk about pot if you don't do it.
01:43:35.000 You don't know what you're talking about.
01:43:36.000 So, oh, you smoke pot, you got real high, you got paranoid, so everybody shouldn't smoke pot?
01:43:40.000 Fuck off, pussy.
01:43:42.000 Yeah, that's Graham Hancock.
01:43:43.000 You know what he's talking about?
01:43:44.000 Richard Dawkins.
01:43:45.000 You don't have a seat at the fucking table to tell me what my ayahuasca experience is unless you've done it.
01:43:50.000 You don't get a seat at the table.
01:43:52.000 You don't get to tell me it's some neurochemical reaction, and this is where it fits in the brain if you haven't had that experience.
01:43:57.000 You can't tell me that that's...
01:43:59.000 And that's what's...
01:44:00.000 The one thing that's fucking odd, at the very least, when people go through these experiences, and Poland talks about this too...
01:44:08.000 It's how real it feels.
01:44:10.000 It's how important it is and how much meaning they have, right?
01:44:15.000 Nobody's gonna fucking tell me that my ayahuasca experience didn't mean shit.
01:44:18.000 I saw, you know, in one of them, my wife and I shared the same vision of holding a child.
01:44:23.000 And the next experience we saw it was a boy and fucking all the fear of being a parent came up and Less than a month later We were pregnant with bear like that's as real as it fucking gets and it manifested after that Coincidence or not.
01:44:37.000 I have a real problem with the word real, too You know when when people try to say that's not real or that's a hallucination.
01:44:43.000 It doesn't matter It's the same experience By saying it's not real, so what are you saying?
01:44:49.000 You're saying that I can't grab it and throw a fucking net over it and drag it away and then show it to you again?
01:44:54.000 Yeah, well then it's not real.
01:44:56.000 You can't be repeated in a double blind study.
01:44:58.000 How can you say it's not real if it's happening?
01:45:00.000 Yeah, and you can't repeat that.
01:45:02.000 Is that a weird thing though?
01:45:03.000 I could take ayahuasca the rest of my life and I'm still not going to repeat the same vision and the same fucking experience again.
01:45:09.000 Yeah, anytime you think you got DMT figured out, your next trip is going to be a mind-bender.
01:45:14.000 Your next trip, you get cocky going in there, like, I've done this before, I'm just pretty relaxed about my DMT trips.
01:45:19.000 I used to really freak out, but I don't anymore.
01:45:21.000 Bitch, you better be scared.
01:45:23.000 You better be scared.
01:45:24.000 You're white-knuckling it right now.
01:45:25.000 You're going to go deep.
01:45:28.000 Gabber Mate said the same thing about Aya.
01:45:29.000 He's done hundreds of ceremonies, and he still gets nervous every fucking time he does it.
01:45:34.000 You should get nervous before you do anything that's important.
01:45:35.000 It's a sign that you're getting ready for something crazy.
01:45:39.000 Well, and there's a healthy level of respect.
01:45:41.000 I think most people run into the issue, you know, they want to alter their consciousness, and they'll take a substance thinking like, this is going to make me feel a certain way, and then all of a sudden they've got to deal with some shit.
01:45:52.000 They've got to work through something, and that's not what they had on their radar.
01:45:55.000 No, I agree.
01:45:58.000 And then also this need to control the experience is always the thing that fucking sends everybody off the rails and into the woods.
01:46:05.000 If they are having any kind of experience, this need to control that experience.
01:46:08.000 Like, no, there's no, no, fuck this.
01:46:11.000 I'm sitting down.
01:46:12.000 You know, and like, no, man, you gotta let go.
01:46:14.000 If you don't let go, you're gone.
01:46:16.000 And you gotta surrender to it.
01:46:17.000 And if you don't, you're gonna go through 15 minutes of Satan.
01:46:21.000 I was with my old man in Panama at the tribal gathering, and we were both doing an ayahuasca ceremony together.
01:46:26.000 And we had the first cup, and it's strong.
01:46:29.000 Like, Shipibo Shaman came in, fucking amazing experience.
01:46:32.000 And they offered the second cup, and I'm like, get up, dude, we're doing it.
01:46:35.000 And he's like, I don't know.
01:46:36.000 And I'm like, come on, let's go.
01:46:37.000 So we take the second cup, we come lay back down.
01:46:40.000 And I've had, I mean, to ballpark, there's been ceremonies where I've had four cups, and it was...
01:46:46.000 Launch.
01:46:47.000 You know?
01:46:48.000 This two cup, that's where we were.
01:46:49.000 Fucking launched.
01:46:51.000 So we go back into the teepee.
01:46:53.000 And, you know, noble silence.
01:46:54.000 We're not talking to each other.
01:46:56.000 And he just grabs my arm and he's like, I'm gonna leave.
01:46:58.000 I'm floating out of here.
01:46:59.000 I don't want to go.
01:47:00.000 I don't want to go.
01:47:00.000 And I was like, fuck yeah, dude.
01:47:02.000 Let go.
01:47:03.000 Let go.
01:47:04.000 Go with it.
01:47:04.000 Now's your opportunity.
01:47:05.000 Let go.
01:47:05.000 See where it takes you.
01:47:06.000 And he's like, no.
01:47:07.000 No, I'm not letting go.
01:47:08.000 I want down.
01:47:09.000 I want down right now.
01:47:10.000 It's too much.
01:47:10.000 I'm too high.
01:47:11.000 And I'm like, well, high's not the right term.
01:47:12.000 And this other guy from Switzerland hurt us.
01:47:15.000 And he goes, here, rub some peppermint on his wrist.
01:47:20.000 It will help him.
01:47:21.000 And he came over and fucking put peppermint oil and that grounded him.
01:47:24.000 But then after that, you know, he's done ayahuasca since then.
01:47:27.000 And he was like, fuck, that was my opportunity to fucking break through and go deeper than I've ever been before.
01:47:34.000 But I wasn't prepared.
01:47:36.000 I wasn't ready to let go and surrender to it.
01:47:38.000 Wow.
01:47:38.000 And that's it, man.
01:47:40.000 You want to have that mindset going in where if you face some shit, it's okay.
01:47:44.000 And if you have the opportunity, especially in fucking DMT or Ayahuasca, which is DMT-based, to have that ability, like, all right, the answer is yes.
01:47:52.000 It makes you wonder what the guys who created yoga were doing.
01:47:57.000 I think I think those people like those people that learn how to do those long Holding poses that they were practicing it.
01:48:05.000 There's a lot of belief that those people were eating a lot of hash Like especially the the earliest people that were that created it and they were Soma whatever the fuck Soma was you ever hear references to Soma?
01:48:17.000 I don't I don't think they know what that is some sort of a psychedelic but that whole Practice of yoga, if you really think about it, a lot of what yoga is, you have to just breathe and just concentrate on maintaining the pose.
01:48:30.000 You have to put yourself into this surrender zone.
01:48:33.000 You can't fight a position.
01:48:35.000 You just kind of accept it and just concentrate on breathing and hold it as long as you can until your body starts giving out and then you let it go again.
01:48:42.000 But I think that prepares you in some way to let go in psychedelic experiences.
01:48:47.000 I think that people that don't have any...
01:48:49.000 If you don't have any kind of physical altercation with your body, there's no moment where you're like, come on, man, come on, breathe, breathe, breathe, go, go, go.
01:48:59.000 If you don't have any of those, if you never...
01:49:00.000 I mean, I don't give a fuck what you're doing, whether it's a spin class or just...
01:49:04.000 If you never have anything where you're pushing yourself when you don't want to do it, but you make yourself do it and then you did it.
01:49:09.000 If you don't have those, like those little...
01:49:11.000 Moments where you overcame something that feels uncomfortable.
01:49:15.000 Then those bends in the trip road are scary dark.
01:49:20.000 Because you don't have any success in coming back from bad states.
01:49:23.000 You don't have any success in coming back from feeling really scared or feeling really nervous.
01:49:30.000 Those build up a database.
01:49:31.000 If you don't have a lot of success in doing those, or especially success in getting your body to just fucking relax.
01:49:38.000 Just fucking relax.
01:49:39.000 It's just a broken leg.
01:49:39.000 If you don't have that in you, it's probably real hard.
01:49:44.000 To navigate some of the darker roads of a trip, where you just have to just kind of just breathe and just try to stay as calm as you can.
01:49:52.000 Let it embrace you as calm as you can.
01:49:55.000 I think that it works both ways, too.
01:49:57.000 You know, like you have...
01:49:59.000 If you put yourself in uncomfortable, stressful spots in everyday life, like a cold bath or the cryo, and you can stay calm in the fucking eye of the storm and come out of that...
01:50:10.000 Yeah.
01:50:14.000 Yeah.
01:50:27.000 Yeah, I agree.
01:50:28.000 I think there's something to what you just said about doing cryo, too.
01:50:32.000 Cryo does make you chill out after, I mean, for lack of a better term, no pun intended.
01:50:38.000 But everything's so elevated after you get out of there, you feel so good.
01:50:44.000 That's a feeling that, like, if there was a way to do that in a spray, if you could buy that feel-good spray at 7-Eleven and give yourself a couple pumps, the same way you feel right after cryo, it would hit you and be like, whoa!
01:50:57.000 You just get this, ooh, you come out and all of a sudden your body feels warm again.
01:51:01.000 You feel great.
01:51:02.000 It's a nice little trick.
01:51:03.000 It's a very nice little trick.
01:51:05.000 And it helps so many people in so many different ways with arthritis and people who have constant inflammation and back problems and knee problems.
01:51:15.000 It's just, there's such a good way to just give your body just a little extra reduction in inflammation.
01:51:22.000 Just give yourself a little jolt.
01:51:24.000 Ah, ooh.
01:51:26.000 Oh!
01:51:27.000 Feels good, man.
01:51:28.000 People poo-poo it.
01:51:29.000 I don't understand the poo-pooing of it.
01:51:31.000 They're looking at it now.
01:51:32.000 They're studying Wim Hof at Stanford.
01:51:33.000 They see 550% increase in dopamine.
01:51:37.000 Wow.
01:51:38.000 200 to 300% increase in adrenaline, which impacts the immune system positively.
01:51:42.000 For how long of a Wim Hof experience?
01:51:46.000 They have different levels of cold.
01:51:47.000 They're studying at one minute at 60 degrees, or 10 minutes at 60 degrees, one minute at 30 degrees, and then they're trying to There's going to be more science that comes out on different, because I want to know, like, how long at 40?
01:51:59.000 How long in the cryo?
01:52:00.000 How long does it...
01:52:02.000 But we know there's some type of neurochemical response from it that you feel, right?
01:52:07.000 Yeah.
01:52:08.000 So it's not just this...
01:52:10.000 You know, it's not placebo.
01:52:11.000 It's not just your mind making this up or, man, I feel really good.
01:52:14.000 I think something's changed.
01:52:15.000 Like, no, you are.
01:52:16.000 You are changing.
01:52:17.000 It does have an impact.
01:52:18.000 And also, stop and think about all the people that we're always scared of.
01:52:22.000 The fucking Vikings and the Russians.
01:52:25.000 We're scared of people coming out of the snow.
01:52:28.000 And the white walkers.
01:52:29.000 We're fucking scared.
01:52:30.000 That's the same thing probably.
01:52:32.000 There's probably something in our head, someone who could survive the snow, that we can't.
01:52:36.000 Like, fuck, he's not even scared to be cold.
01:52:38.000 You know?
01:52:39.000 I mean, that is...
01:52:41.000 Who's the scariest people in this country?
01:52:42.000 Or the toughest?
01:52:44.000 Alaskans.
01:52:44.000 This motherfucker, they have shows.
01:52:45.000 They have like 10 shows.
01:52:47.000 There's only 100 people in Alaska.
01:52:48.000 They have 10 shows on people living in Alaska.
01:52:51.000 There's too many fucking shows.
01:52:53.000 There's so many of those shows.
01:52:55.000 I know there's millions of people living in Alaska.
01:52:57.000 Maybe not even, right?
01:52:58.000 No.
01:52:58.000 It's not even.
01:52:59.000 Didn't we already go over this?
01:53:00.000 Anchorage is like 400,000 people, I think.
01:53:03.000 I might have made that up.
01:53:05.000 What's the number?
01:53:07.000 740,000 for the whole state.
01:53:09.000 Whoa!
01:53:10.000 How many people does Anchorage have?
01:53:12.000 700. Wow, not even a million for the whole state.
01:53:15.000 But there's like 18 shows on people living in Alaska.
01:53:18.000 But they're hardy people.
01:53:19.000 You look at them, you're like, damn, what would I do?
01:53:22.000 Three to four hundred thousand, yeah.
01:53:23.000 Yeah, so it was about right.
01:53:25.000 So that's like a...
01:53:26.000 Anchorage is like a real spot, like a real city, sort of.
01:53:29.000 I mean, real nice bars and restaurants and shit like that.
01:53:32.000 But these shows about those people that live up there, those are all the people that live in, like, the Arctic Circle area, and they chop their own fucking firewood and fight wolves off and shit, like...
01:53:43.000 There's this one dude, we've talked about him several times in the podcast, that lives by himself.
01:53:47.000 He's the weirdest of all the weird people.
01:53:51.000 Because all these other people live in regular houses, and they just live in a house that's connected to this river, and they take their dogs dog sledding, and they do all this shit, but they live in a normal house.
01:54:01.000 They go into a house.
01:54:02.000 This motherfucker has like this tiny shack and he lives right next to a lake and he lives by himself and he walks everywhere and he somehow or another gets like pelts and shit and makes enough money to buy bullets and and he lives out there by himself and he'll come into town like once every couple years apparently used to be married used to have a family fascinating guy I mean,
01:54:25.000 this guy's not faking it.
01:54:26.000 He's actually really living up there by himself in this room that's way smaller than this studio.
01:54:31.000 And he lives by himself next to a lake.
01:54:34.000 And he had to shoot wolves one night because they were coming for his fucking moose or his caribou.
01:54:38.000 The whole thing's crazy.
01:54:40.000 Like, it's by himself.
01:54:42.000 Nobody to talk to.
01:54:43.000 I think that might be a draw for people, especially if there is some merging of consciousness and integration with technology down the road.
01:54:53.000 Like that kind of, fuck this, I'm going off the beaten path.
01:54:56.000 And you already see that.
01:54:57.000 People want to be off the grid.
01:54:58.000 But to truly be like balls deep in nature, where you have to deal with wolves and bears and all the shit that's going on like that.
01:55:05.000 That might be a bigger draw down the road.
01:55:07.000 Right now, I'm not interested in that shit.
01:55:09.000 Well, I'm not interested in that shit either, but I'm interested in him being interested in it.
01:55:13.000 Because I think that what you were just saying about technology, what I thought you were going to say is about nature.
01:55:18.000 I think there's a deeper connection to nature if you're just living in it all the time.
01:55:23.000 Oh, no doubt.
01:55:24.000 No doubt.
01:55:24.000 I bet you get weird senses of where things are, how the wind feels when it's coming at you.
01:55:32.000 Oh, it's definitely coming this way.
01:55:34.000 You know where to stand.
01:55:37.000 You get a sense of the whole thing, and you're a part of it.
01:55:40.000 You're not talking to anybody.
01:55:41.000 So the only dialogue you have is internal.
01:55:45.000 It's like your buddy who fasts when he hunts.
01:55:48.000 Yeah.
01:55:48.000 You get that extra sensory coming in.
01:55:51.000 Yeah.
01:55:51.000 Yeah, Remy Warren always talked about that, that you should hunt hungry.
01:55:57.000 That's primal shit, dude.
01:56:00.000 That makes sense, though.
01:56:01.000 Yeah, totally makes sense.
01:56:03.000 Totally makes sense.
01:56:04.000 I've found out, I mean, doing the fasting, I've done two five-day fasts now.
01:56:07.000 The brain, it doesn't, it's not like, I mean, I have extra energy.
01:56:10.000 Sleep kind of goes to shit, you know, and Michael Walker talked a bit about that, but...
01:56:16.000 I can't sit and read.
01:56:17.000 Like, I can't just focus in like, alright, my brain's turned on.
01:56:21.000 Let me just bang out emails or fucking read a book.
01:56:23.000 It doesn't work that way.
01:56:24.000 But I do start to problem solve in a way that's not possible and not common when I'm eating food all the time.
01:56:32.000 It just works differently.
01:56:33.000 Like, all this other shit turns on.
01:56:36.000 Wow.
01:56:39.000 Now, when you were talking earlier about this Kratom experience, how many times have you done Kratom?
01:56:45.000 Well, I have a boatload of it.
01:56:51.000 I mean, I don't know.
01:56:53.000 I've lost track of how many times I've done it, but usually when I do it, it is at that one to two pill dose.
01:56:58.000 I don't exceed that often.
01:56:59.000 You're a guy who The reason why I ask is you're a guy who is always on top of all the latest and greatest in terms of supplementation, the benefits of certain things.
01:57:09.000 How do you know when to stick them in and when to lay off other stuff?
01:57:13.000 Because you're not necessarily getting your blood tested all the time after you do some of these things, right?
01:57:18.000 No, I do blood work fairly often, but...
01:57:21.000 That's just more for general health and wellness.
01:57:23.000 It's not to see how things are impacting me.
01:57:24.000 Do you have a detailed analysis of what you're taking in the days before blood work and compare it to times when you're not taking those things?
01:57:35.000 The thing that has the biggest impact on my blood work is if I'm in ketosis or not.
01:57:39.000 There's no fucking doubt.
01:57:41.000 And that's also genetic.
01:57:42.000 It's not the fucking right diet for everyone.
01:57:46.000 That's a pain the ass to hear.
01:57:48.000 Like, well, what the fuck's the right one for me, man?
01:57:51.000 Come on, Kyle.
01:57:52.000 That's like Rob Wolf.
01:57:53.000 You've got to figure that out.
01:57:54.000 Wired to Eat's a game changer.
01:57:56.000 It really is.
01:57:57.000 It's a very good book.
01:57:57.000 But you've got to do your fucking homework.
01:57:59.000 Have you seen Rob actually puts it into action on his Instagram page?
01:58:03.000 Rob Wolf and his wife will eat the exact same thing, and then he tests ketone levels and blood sugar levels at the same time stamp.
01:58:13.000 And his and hers are radically different.
01:58:14.000 Like she's just better at absorbing stuff.
01:58:16.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:58:17.000 And so I'm similar to him genetically in that I don't do well with a lot of carbohydrates and like a wide variety.
01:58:24.000 I can eat a plate of yams and my blood sugar looks fine.
01:58:27.000 But if I have a little bit of white rice, I'm fucking through the roof, like pre-diabetic.
01:58:31.000 Did you listen to the podcast that I did with Zach Bitter?
01:58:34.000 No.
01:58:35.000 He's the guy that holds the world record for running 100 miles in America.
01:58:39.000 He ran 100 miles, like, literally ran a 7-minute pace for 11 hours.
01:58:46.000 Damn.
01:58:47.000 Damn.
01:58:48.000 Yeah, that's just the only thing you could say.
01:58:51.000 11 hours and 40 minutes, I think, was the total.
01:58:53.000 That is so fucking crazy.
01:58:55.000 You can run seven-minute miles for 11 hours and 40 minutes.
01:59:00.000 Just keep going.
01:59:01.000 Was he in ketosis?
01:59:03.000 Most of the time he's in ketosis.
01:59:05.000 He eats a very meat-rich diet and he is a fat burner.
01:59:11.000 He's in ketosis all the time.
01:59:13.000 He takes all kinds of crazy...
01:59:17.000 Well, he was talking about his diet, like one of the things that he eats more than anything was steak, right?
01:59:22.000 That was like his big thing, like fatty piece of meat.
01:59:26.000 And when he runs, though, when he's involved in a race or anything where there's extremely high requirements on his body, then he goes way above ketosis levels of carbohydrates.
01:59:40.000 Yeah.
01:59:41.000 Hundreds and hundreds of grams.
01:59:43.000 During the race, that's totally what you should do.
01:59:46.000 I ran that 50k after I was on your show last couple years ago.
01:59:50.000 He says, what's even more surprising though is Bitter trains and competes on almost no carbs.
01:59:56.000 At times carbs account for as little as 5% of his diet.
01:59:59.000 And Bitter insists that even we non-endurance record holders can do the same.
02:00:04.000 Yeah, but remember he was talking about when he...
02:00:06.000 Did the races.
02:00:07.000 He takes some glucose supplements, right?
02:00:09.000 There's an article about his whole diet.
02:00:10.000 Yeah, I think he means most of the time.
02:00:13.000 Most of the time when he's eating and training and exercising, he's burning almost no carbs.
02:00:19.000 Well, that's the goal, though.
02:00:20.000 That's metabolic flexibility.
02:00:22.000 The goal is, if we're from out the gate, we eat carbohydrates every fucking meal until we're 40, We're not making ketones.
02:00:30.000 Our body doesn't know how to use fat for fuel.
02:00:32.000 If we at least spend a period of time, and that's what I do now, I'll spend about six months a year in ketosis with maybe a couple carb days in a whole six-month span.
02:00:41.000 And then after that, I'll practice some carb backloading, or maybe I'll have higher carbohydrate days, but I'm still eating higher fat, higher protein throughout that, or moderate protein throughout that.
02:00:51.000 That creates flexibility.
02:00:52.000 That's what we're designed to do.
02:00:54.000 You can argue all you want about what fucking paleo man ate and all that shit, but the truth is Before refrigeration and before shipping, we did not have access to carbohydrates.
02:01:05.000 Most of the people on this planet didn't have access for at least three months out of the year, right?
02:01:09.000 Yeah.
02:01:10.000 So, I mean, there's at least a period of time where we should take off and allow our body to reset and start to burn fat for fuel.
02:01:17.000 And then when we go back to eating carbohydrates, we utilize it a little bit better.
02:01:21.000 Well, there's also people like the Inuit who didn't eat any vegetables at all.
02:01:25.000 Yeah, but I think even with them, two months out of the year, when they grow seasonally, they'd eat a little bit more carbohydrates and probably not be fully keto for two months out of the year.
02:01:34.000 What do you think they would eat?
02:01:35.000 Whatever the fuck grows.
02:01:36.000 What could they grow?
02:01:37.000 I'm sure two months out of the year they can grow some shit.
02:01:40.000 Man, I don't even know.
02:01:41.000 Aren't there spots where they can never grow anything all year round?
02:01:44.000 Possibly.
02:01:49.000 Yeah.
02:01:51.000 Yeah.
02:02:04.000 Intermittent fasting is a good way to go about that.
02:02:06.000 And when I do that regularly, when I get like three or four days in a row, there's a noticeable difference in like the need to eat.
02:02:14.000 Like that feeling that...
02:02:16.000 Inflammation goes down, cognitive function goes up, sleep's improved.
02:02:20.000 Yeah, there's a lot of benefits to it for sure.
02:02:22.000 Some people are going crazy with it and doing 20 and 4. I'm like, wow.
02:02:27.000 But not a terrible idea.
02:02:29.000 Not a terrible idea.
02:02:30.000 I interviewed this guy, Todd White, who's the CEO of Dry Farm Wines.
02:02:34.000 He does that every fucking day.
02:02:36.000 Fast for 20 hours.
02:02:38.000 He'll have a bottle or two of the Dry Farm with his dinner.
02:02:41.000 And that's it.
02:02:42.000 That's his fucking deal.
02:02:43.000 And he's shredded.
02:02:44.000 I met him at Paleo FX this year.
02:02:47.000 And it was curious to me because everybody that's a part of that is, you know, they're health oriented.
02:02:52.000 They're kind of dialed in.
02:02:53.000 At least they're on track.
02:02:54.000 They work out.
02:02:56.000 You can't be a fat guy at a paleo festival.
02:02:58.000 They pay attention to what they're putting in their body and how they move, right?
02:03:01.000 Yeah.
02:03:02.000 But at every kiosk or every little booth...
02:03:06.000 Not everyone looks the part.
02:03:07.000 At this guy's booth, everyone's fucking shredded.
02:03:10.000 Everyone's got a giant smile on their face.
02:03:12.000 I was like, what's the fucking deal?
02:03:14.000 And he's like, well, 18 out of 20 of us are keto.
02:03:16.000 Almost all of us do intermittent fasting.
02:03:20.000 They have group meditation.
02:03:21.000 Not that that would help with fat loss, but I mean, just to say that they're dialed in.
02:03:25.000 Group meditation every fucking day at 9 a.m.
02:03:28.000 Their entire company.
02:03:29.000 Wow.
02:03:29.000 Like, he's a fucking legit guy.
02:03:31.000 Damn.
02:03:31.000 Group meditation with the whole company.
02:03:33.000 With the entire company.
02:03:34.000 How many dudes are just thinking about dicks?
02:03:37.000 Angry.
02:03:37.000 Angry that they have to do group meditation.
02:03:40.000 They fucking visualize those guys doing the dick exercises nonstop with the weights.
02:03:46.000 They'd be like, well, my dick looker wasn't circumcised.
02:03:48.000 What would it look like?
02:03:50.000 I'm trying to picture it.
02:03:53.000 It probably added half an inch.
02:03:55.000 Or you could just shoot stem cells into it like Greenfield would get the half inch.
02:03:59.000 Those guys who are doing those, like is that a mandatory thing?
02:04:02.000 Do you have to do it to work at the company?
02:04:03.000 Do the group meditation?
02:04:05.000 I think it's a requirement, yeah.
02:04:08.000 That'd be annoying for you.
02:04:09.000 I think it'd be good once you fucking got into it, though.
02:04:11.000 Maybe.
02:04:11.000 Even if you didn't learn.
02:04:13.000 Yeah, but maybe.
02:04:13.000 I like fucking meditation.
02:04:14.000 If somebody carved out...
02:04:15.000 Like, working it on, it's fucking amazing.
02:04:17.000 Because we're not only allowed to work out on the clock, but we're encouraged to.
02:04:21.000 That's awesome.
02:04:21.000 We're encouraged to use a sauna.
02:04:23.000 There's a fucking meditation room that I'll go hit and meditate for 30 minutes.
02:04:27.000 I'm outside with my shirt off, barefoot, doing Tai Chi and weird shit all the time.
02:04:32.000 And that's okay, right?
02:04:33.000 So that culture that's created there is awesome.
02:04:35.000 There's nap pods at Google for a fucking reason, right?
02:04:38.000 So if you had that scheduled in to where you were going to meditate every fucking day on the clock and you knew this is my time to rest...
02:04:46.000 And just get silent.
02:04:48.000 I think over time, you'd buy into that.
02:04:50.000 Over time, you'd learn how.
02:04:52.000 Or you would say, I'm a fucking accountant and I came to this building to work, not to have some fucking cult member, asshole, guru, who's probably just trying to fuck everybody.
02:05:02.000 Bhagwan Tree Rajnees.
02:05:04.000 That guy tell everybody when I can meditate.
02:05:06.000 I'll meditate on my own time, motherfucker.
02:05:08.000 I'm here to work.
02:05:09.000 I don't need that extra 10 minutes.
02:05:10.000 He told me most of the people in his company still have a meditation practice outside, off the clock.
02:05:15.000 I would tell him that, too, if I wanted a raise.
02:05:18.000 You know, I meditate for four hours when I'm out of here.
02:05:21.000 Bro, I meditate about you and how amazing and amazing leader you are.
02:05:24.000 Just, uh, I'll be at my desk.
02:05:29.000 Yeah, man, I think it's a great idea.
02:05:32.000 I just think there'd be some people that would, well, I guess if you let them know before they took the job, hey, man, the only thing we require is 10 minutes of meditation every day.
02:05:39.000 Are you cool with that?
02:05:40.000 Yeah, I'll take it.
02:05:41.000 But what if you, you know, like, I think people gravitate towards that.
02:05:45.000 There's like-minded individuals at every fucking company unless they're just, I need money, and usually those people get weeded out of the equation, right?
02:05:51.000 Well, Ana's a great example of that.
02:05:52.000 When you go there, everybody's super positive, fit, very friendly environment.
02:05:59.000 There's no dicky.
02:06:00.000 They all fucking enjoy what they're doing, too.
02:06:02.000 And if they don't, they see themselves out.
02:06:06.000 There's no company you're ever going to work at where 100% of the people are fucking dialed in and they're all on the same page and we're going to change the world.
02:06:12.000 It doesn't work that way.
02:06:13.000 But if you have a high percentage that are doing that, that's how you see big changes happen.
02:06:18.000 Yeah, when you get a hundred employees, I mean, you're gonna have a little chaos.
02:06:22.000 A little bit.
02:06:23.000 You know, you're gonna have that.
02:06:26.000 You're gonna have, did you hear what Jen said to Mike in front of everybody?
02:06:30.000 You're going to have that.
02:06:31.000 You're going to have craziness.
02:06:33.000 You're going to have people that don't work together well, don't like each other because of pre-existing biases, because of who knows, whatever the fuck it is.
02:06:41.000 They remind them of an ex.
02:06:42.000 People are weird.
02:06:44.000 Getting men and women to work together just to pull that off alone.
02:06:49.000 Yeah, we got HR now on it.
02:06:52.000 That's interesting.
02:06:53.000 What's that like?
02:06:54.000 I don't know.
02:06:55.000 I don't have a comparison because it's my first real job where I get to play an adult.
02:07:00.000 So you have a person who's hired to make sure that no shenanigans take place?
02:07:04.000 Well, just to create a pipeline for people to talk to one another or a pipeline where you can handle things in an appropriate manner.
02:07:14.000 So if someone takes offense to something and we all had to go through this...
02:07:18.000 Fucking ridiculous and hilarious, like, 1990 video on, you know, harassment in the workforce, shit like that.
02:07:26.000 I had to watch those for a couple different TV shows.
02:07:29.000 When they start a TV show off, it's one of the things they do in the beginning.
02:07:33.000 Everybody has to go there.
02:07:34.000 We all sat in the bleachers like we were there for a show taping.
02:07:39.000 And they pull the screen down, and they played us this...
02:07:42.000 Video on harassment.
02:07:43.000 Weinstein didn't watch it.
02:07:44.000 I guess he didn't.
02:07:46.000 There's no Weinstein character in that video, shockingly.
02:07:50.000 There it is.
02:07:51.000 Yeah, if you...
02:07:52.000 I mean...
02:07:54.000 I don't know if that works.
02:07:57.000 I guess maybe it works in that people know they can't get away with stuff.
02:08:00.000 Well, no, it's just a safe place for people to come talk, and it doesn't mean like...
02:08:04.000 No, that's not what I mean.
02:08:04.000 I mean those videos.
02:08:05.000 Oh, the videos don't do shit.
02:08:06.000 How could they work?
02:08:07.000 They're comical.
02:08:08.000 Who's gonna say, man, I was about to sexually harass this chick, but that fucking video's got me thinking.
02:08:17.000 Nobody would say that.
02:08:19.000 I think people might bite their lip a little bit, though, if they know there can be repercussions.
02:08:23.000 Like, you know what?
02:08:23.000 I don't want to fucking lose my job.
02:08:25.000 You know what I'm saying?
02:08:26.000 I definitely don't want to lose my...
02:08:27.000 I wouldn't want to lose my job if it wasn't on it because I have a family.
02:08:31.000 But I definitely don't want to lose this job because it's fucking amazing.
02:08:34.000 You know?
02:08:34.000 It's an amazing thing to be a part of.
02:08:36.000 I don't think that it's...
02:08:38.000 I mean, hmm.
02:08:39.000 What am I trying to say here?
02:08:43.000 There's no room for fun with people anymore, though.
02:08:46.000 That's the fucking issue.
02:08:47.000 The problem is, if you want to cut all sexual harassment, which we all do, you don't want to cut fun.
02:08:54.000 But how do you, you know, especially like a guy who's saying something that he thinks is funny to a girl, and it just really hurts her feelings, and he was just trying to be funny.
02:09:06.000 Like, that's, in her eyes, sexual harassment.
02:09:08.000 In his eyes, it's a joke.
02:09:10.000 Well, it's even weird.
02:09:10.000 Everybody's eyes is a disaster.
02:09:12.000 Yeah, and it goes into all things.
02:09:16.000 I fuck with Aubrey's assistant a lot, Ian.
02:09:19.000 He's a good buddy of mine.
02:09:20.000 And I treat him like my little brother sometimes.
02:09:23.000 But it's a joke.
02:09:24.000 It is always a joke.
02:09:25.000 And so we had this team meeting on the jiu-jitsu mats.
02:09:28.000 And he was sitting next to me.
02:09:29.000 And the second we broke after the meeting, I just fucking got on a leg and started cranking.
02:09:33.000 I'm like, we're on the fucking mats, bitch.
02:09:35.000 You're mine.
02:09:35.000 And I'm digging my knee into his shin, doing some dirty jiu-jitsu.
02:09:40.000 And I forgot the leg I was on.
02:09:42.000 He had just fucked up in soccer.
02:09:44.000 So, I mean, dude's like, he's on fucking crutches for a minute, you know?
02:09:51.000 And I would clown him a little bit about being on crutches and here comes the gimp and he's my boy.
02:09:56.000 And then I realized after watching this video, I'm like, oh, that's just as illegal as sexual harassment.
02:10:01.000 And so, you know, I'd make a joke about that too.
02:10:03.000 Like, you know, Ian...
02:10:05.000 Nobody's allowed to make fun of you for being disabled.
02:10:07.000 That's against the law, and you can go to HR for that.
02:10:10.000 So if anybody does that, you know, you can go say something.
02:10:13.000 It's okay.
02:10:14.000 And that was kind of our, you know, I mean, he's my fucking boy, so I can do that.
02:10:18.000 But that's still illegal.
02:10:20.000 I don't know that I should be saying that right now.
02:10:22.000 Well, see, the thing is, if you have good friends, like it's what we were talking about earlier with, like, comedians.
02:10:27.000 Good friends say fucked up shit to each other for fun, and it's fun for both of them because...
02:10:32.000 If you have a real friend, you love each other so much, you know that he doesn't really think terrible things about you, but he could say funny, ridiculous shit like that because it'll make both of you laugh because you know it's not the case.
02:10:46.000 But if you thought in any way it was the case, that you really were like mocking him in any way, then it would never be funny.
02:10:53.000 But because you're never capable of that, it's very funny.
02:10:56.000 And I think the real issue comes down to people who are looking to be offended.
02:11:01.000 There's that, but there's also people that are terrible at telling jokes.
02:11:04.000 There's people that are terrible at joking around with people and they make people uncomfortable.
02:11:08.000 But there's some people in the room that won't laugh at anything.
02:11:11.000 You know, they're just fucking looking for shit.
02:11:13.000 Right, and there's the question, right, if you have a company, like, how the fuck do you decide who to hire and not to hire?
02:11:18.000 Because you don't know these people in the beginning.
02:11:20.000 Like, sometimes people are one thing, and then they get a little power, and then they become something different.
02:11:25.000 They just become a different thing.
02:11:26.000 And then they get ambitious, or who knows, their life changes in some way, and then they get aggressive.
02:11:32.000 And then they're a different person.
02:11:33.000 Like, hey, who are you that we hired five years ago?
02:11:36.000 Now we have to figure out a fucking exit strategy to get you out of the company.
02:11:40.000 Fuck!
02:11:40.000 You know, I've seen many friends go sideways on situations like that where they start doing business together and then the business takes off or doesn't take off or whatever.
02:11:50.000 They're stuck together and then they're not the same person who they were ten years ago when they started this fucking thing.
02:11:55.000 So there's all this weirdness and resentment and you know...
02:11:58.000 Well, hopefully no one's the same person they were ten years ago.
02:12:01.000 Right.
02:12:01.000 Hopefully you fucking grow and it's a positive thing.
02:12:04.000 Or...
02:12:04.000 That's not always the case.
02:12:05.000 Could be you growing and them not or them and you not.
02:12:09.000 I mean...
02:12:10.000 It's not uniform either.
02:12:11.000 That's the other thing.
02:12:12.000 It's like if you find like-minded people, the great thing about it is everyone's trying their best to be a good person, to take care of their body.
02:12:20.000 They're trying their best.
02:12:20.000 There's gonna be some hills and valleys and ups and downs, but for the most part, the thought process is about trying to be your best.
02:12:26.000 Always, right?
02:12:27.000 If you're around those people, everybody's gonna be okay.
02:12:30.000 But if you're around the people that are fucking super negative about stuff, and always sabotaging their life, and always fucking up things for friends around them, and always ruining this, and fucking up that...
02:12:41.000 That can be exhausting.
02:12:45.000 That can steal your DNA. That steals your fucking...
02:12:49.000 Whatever it is that makes you a person.
02:12:53.000 The feeling that you get when you're around someone is just fucking up all the time where you're like, oh, it's exhausting.
02:12:59.000 That's kind of the deal, too, where you just, you know, if it is family or somebody you care about, just love them at a distance.
02:13:05.000 You know, you've got to remove yourself from that.
02:13:07.000 You can't get wrapped up.
02:13:08.000 There's certain family members that they go crazy and you can't get wrapped up.
02:13:12.000 They'll take you down.
02:13:14.000 They'll take you down with them.
02:13:15.000 You can't live two lives simultaneously.
02:13:16.000 You do your best if people want to go crazy.
02:13:19.000 And that's always been my real fear and concern when someone that I know well does the drug thing, goes down the drug hole.
02:13:32.000 What are you doing, man?
02:13:34.000 Are you doing something?
02:13:35.000 No.
02:13:35.000 No, I'm not doing nothing.
02:13:36.000 And you're like, oh, no.
02:13:38.000 We got a tweaker over here.
02:13:40.000 We lost a homeboy.
02:13:41.000 He's tweaking.
02:13:42.000 He's not even himself anymore.
02:13:43.000 Now he's going to lie to us about whether or not he's taking meth.
02:13:48.000 Yeah, I've seen shit like that in college.
02:13:49.000 Lost a friend of heroin.
02:13:51.000 Well, lost two friends of heroin.
02:13:53.000 Gained one back, and he got fucking clean.
02:13:55.000 It's not fun.
02:13:56.000 That's the rough one, huh?
02:13:57.000 Not fun to witness.
02:13:58.000 The people that are willing to stick a needle in their arm right into the vein.
02:14:02.000 Pshh!
02:14:05.000 There's the romantic thing about it to some people that this is the ultimate fuck you to safety.
02:14:10.000 You know, the fuck you to the standard norms the society has put on you and you stick that needle in you and just untie the strap.
02:14:23.000 Fucking crazy.
02:14:25.000 What a crazy thing to do.
02:14:26.000 Ari Shafir had a good point on that though.
02:14:28.000 He was looking at, I forget when he was talking about it, but he said he saw a homeless man and he realized the guy was on some fucked up drugs and he was like, oh...
02:14:37.000 I get it.
02:14:38.000 You were just introduced to the wrong drugs.
02:14:40.000 Because Ari does a lot of drugs, but he has drugs that help elevate him and lift him to a new spot and give him new perspective and hope and joy.
02:14:49.000 And this other guy just got fucking sucked deep down the rabbit hole in the wrong direction.
02:14:54.000 Wow.
02:14:55.000 Yeah.
02:14:56.000 I think in some ways that's true, but in some ways they like the heroin better.
02:15:02.000 Who was it that had that statement about heroin?
02:15:06.000 I'm not going to remember it.
02:15:08.000 But there was a fascinating statement about heroin killing you.
02:15:12.000 That when it was killing you...
02:15:14.000 I think it was Lenny Bruce talking about it.
02:15:18.000 But that it was such a sweet death.
02:15:21.000 I really forget the quote because I'm...
02:15:25.000 Heroin is something I it freaks me out so much.
02:15:27.000 I don't even like reading too much about it I like read a few Things here there about people that are hooked on it.
02:15:32.000 It just it creeps me out so much It's almost like I'm reading about demonic possession and in a way I think it is the way I think when people lose their entire life to some pills They can't stop they lose their family lose their job and they just can't stop to keep taking it How is that really any different in terms of the overall results?
02:15:50.000 And the effect it has on your loved ones and your friends and your family and yourself How is it any different than just a really evil demon that talks you into staying home all day and makes you throw up and Is just fucking with you all day and making you tired just dragging you to the ground making you fall asleep right in front of the sink How is that if there was a demon doing that you're like,
02:16:10.000 oh my god, look at him.
02:16:11.000 He's possessed by a demon It'd be horrible if we just saw some kid who's just his body's all fucked up because there's a demon inside of him controlling it.
02:16:20.000 But instead, we're like, oh no, he's all fucked up because he shot up.
02:16:23.000 He shot up.
02:16:24.000 It's the same thing.
02:16:26.000 Yeah, it grabs people.
02:16:27.000 That's the fucking problem, though, is that you look at that...
02:16:30.000 That's it.
02:16:31.000 I'll die young, but it's like kissing God.
02:16:33.000 That was his expression of it.
02:16:35.000 Damn.
02:16:36.000 Who died of a morphine overdose on August 3rd, 1966. Man...
02:16:48.000 He's, in my line of work, that's the Lucy...
02:16:54.000 You know, that primordial or whatever, how would you call it, prehistoric human, human-owned, hominoid?
02:17:01.000 What was Lucy?
02:17:03.000 That was the Australia Pythicus or something like that?
02:17:06.000 Yeah, that's what Lenny Bruce is in a lot of ways.
02:17:09.000 Second you said Lucy, I was thinking of LSD, but I know you're talking about LSD. Lucy was on the cover of Nat Geo, right?
02:17:16.000 Yeah, it was like one of the first early human skeletons they had.
02:17:21.000 I think there's some controversy attached to that thing, too.
02:17:25.000 Which there always is to those ancient humans that they find.
02:17:28.000 You know, you find a fucking human from...
02:17:29.000 How long ago was Lucy?
02:17:31.000 How many?
02:17:32.000 2 million?
02:17:33.000 2.9.
02:17:33.000 2.9 million.
02:17:34.000 Let me see a picture.
02:17:36.000 That was us, just 2.9 million years ago.
02:17:39.000 What the fuck?
02:17:43.000 That's crazy.
02:17:46.000 Would you fuck Lucy?
02:17:47.000 If I had to.
02:17:48.000 For the good of the human race.
02:17:51.000 If we need to make people.
02:17:52.000 Who was asking if they would fuck a Neanderthal?
02:17:56.000 Who wasn't?
02:17:57.000 Did you?
02:17:58.000 The answer is yes.
02:17:59.000 The answer is fucking yes.
02:18:01.000 It happened.
02:18:02.000 Humans fucked Neanderthals.
02:18:03.000 What I mean by Lenny Bruce is this is like he's the first.
02:18:06.000 He's not like primitive.
02:18:08.000 I mean, he was like super advanced, but he was the very first version of that.
02:18:12.000 The very first version of a real stand-up comedian.
02:18:14.000 Like that everybody, all lines come from Lenny Bruce.
02:18:18.000 I mean, there's a bunch of his contemporaries that were really good, too.
02:18:20.000 And there's a bunch of people from that era that were just all innovative and interesting thinkers.
02:18:25.000 They all, I'm sure, fed off of each other.
02:18:27.000 But Lenny Bruce is almost like Lucy.
02:18:29.000 He's almost like the first real stand-up comic.
02:18:33.000 You know, like we say, like, okay, I get Mark Twain was doing it.
02:18:36.000 I understand that all these different people had like a kind of...
02:18:39.000 You know comical way of talking in front of people But there was something about the way he was analyzing and breaking down society on stage that was this was the first of those So you watch that and you go, wow, that's almost like a scientific discovery.
02:18:55.000 It's like, well, now this is going to shift the culture this way because now people are going to be mocking things for entertainment.
02:19:02.000 So the other side is going to get way more mocking.
02:19:04.000 So you're going to have your serious side, but there's going to be a business in making fun of it now.
02:19:09.000 There's a new thing now.
02:19:09.000 There's a new thing.
02:19:11.000 And that's what that guy was.
02:19:13.000 It's kind of a trip, and you really stop and think about how influential one person can be, you know?
02:19:18.000 That one person with some crazy amount of talent, some weird way of looking at things, can shift.
02:19:25.000 I'm sitting across from one right now.
02:19:27.000 That's horseshit.
02:19:28.000 This guy right here, man.
02:19:30.000 He was doing things.
02:19:32.000 Play some of this, man.
02:19:33.000 You better off alone, man.
02:19:34.000 I got it.
02:19:35.000 That's it.
02:19:35.000 I'm going to get a whole bunch of new suits.
02:19:37.000 You know, I've had the same dumb suit for ten years.
02:19:41.000 You walk in her closet, you can't even breathe.
02:19:44.000 That's it.
02:19:45.000 I'll get a whole bunch of suits.
02:19:46.000 I'll get a chick that likes to hang out, man.
02:19:48.000 I'll get a...
02:19:49.000 I'll have no vodka parties.
02:19:51.000 That's modern.
02:19:51.000 Vodka parties.
02:19:52.000 Swing it up, ball it up.
02:19:53.000 I'll get a chick...
02:19:53.000 I got a chick who likes to drink.
02:19:57.000 Boy, my wife sure used to look good standing up against the sink.
02:20:02.000 She's the lowest, though.
02:20:05.000 I really put her down.
02:20:07.000 No...
02:20:07.000 No, I really miss her.
02:20:09.000 I don't want some sharp chick that can coat Kerouac and walk with poise.
02:20:14.000 I just want to hear my old lady say, get up and fix the sink.
02:20:19.000 It's still making noise.
02:20:22.000 All alone.
02:20:24.000 All alone.
02:20:28.000 Like a near-sighted dog wears the bone.
02:20:32.000 Ah, but it's better.
02:20:35.000 To be all alone.
02:20:36.000 No more taking out the garbage.
02:20:38.000 Hear her yakking on the phone.
02:20:40.000 I gave her everything.
02:20:42.000 Even my mother's ring.
02:20:45.000 But to me she was so petty.
02:20:48.000 Sometimes I wish that she were dead.
02:20:50.000 But it'd probably take her two hours to get ready.
02:20:56.000 What the fuck?
02:20:57.000 This is probably like...
02:20:58.000 I would have to guess like 1960?
02:21:01.000 What year was that?
02:21:03.000 Does it say?
02:21:05.000 Hmm wonder when that was it's got to be somewhere in that neighborhood, but that guy and Big heroin problem man big big big heroin problem and he was also fighting against censorship He was like one of the first people that was a public speaker that was challenging the ideas of censorship in court He was getting arrested for doing his nightclub performances and saying certain words and You know,
02:21:32.000 and he was talking about how ridiculous it is to put all the power into these words, including racist words.
02:21:38.000 Nobody was doing anything like this back then.
02:21:40.000 It was crazy shit.
02:21:42.000 And a lot of what he was doing...
02:21:44.000 Dominion of sanity.
02:21:46.000 Yeah, a lot of what he was doing was...
02:21:49.000 You know, he was a big believer in expanding his consciousness.
02:21:54.000 He was getting fucked up a lot.
02:21:56.000 He was, you know...
02:21:58.000 He's obviously doing heroin because he died of it.
02:22:00.000 He talked about it pretty openly.
02:22:02.000 But who knows what else he was doing, too.
02:22:03.000 I think marijuana was involved in there, too.
02:22:05.000 He's expanding his mind at a strange time.
02:22:08.000 I think it's impossible for us to really put ourselves in the mindset of people who lived in the 1950s and early 1960s.
02:22:16.000 I don't even think we're capable of doing it.
02:22:18.000 No, we have like a VH1 depiction of that.
02:22:20.000 Did you ever see the decades?
02:22:22.000 Yeah.
02:22:22.000 Where they went through the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, the 90s?
02:22:26.000 That was pretty fucking rad, but that's still a Hollywood version of it.
02:22:29.000 A hundred percent.
02:22:30.000 You know?
02:22:30.000 Yeah.
02:22:31.000 Even when they get to the eighties, you know, like cocaine's resurgence and it's all fucking Madonna and Prince.
02:22:36.000 It's so silly.
02:22:37.000 Back to the future and shit like that.
02:22:39.000 I don't think we can imagine what it would have been like growing up then, you know, living in his era.
02:22:45.000 Like people were so buttoned down to have some guy come along and go, why, why are we doing it like this?
02:22:52.000 You know, he was, um, That's a crazy thing.
02:22:57.000 The stand-up comedy started in America.
02:22:59.000 It really did.
02:23:00.000 I mean, there was definitely jesters and, you know, King Arthur's days and all that bullshit.
02:23:05.000 And from the beginning of time, people have had court jesters.
02:23:09.000 And there's always been funny people in the village that everybody gathered around, like a Joey Diaz-type character that lives somewhere.
02:23:15.000 But the art of stand-up comedy, like, that was the first, I think.
02:23:20.000 I mean, maybe I'm wrong.
02:23:21.000 Maybe it's Mark Twain, but if it's not...
02:23:23.000 I saw Mark Twain and Tim, you know?
02:23:26.000 That was the first one where people started wanting to be that.
02:23:30.000 And then there was a lot of that coming off of that.
02:23:33.000 You know, like these little branches get taken off the main river and culture occasionally.
02:23:39.000 And I think a lot of that was what I was reading in the Malcolm Gladwell book that I was talking about earlier.
02:23:45.000 What's the name of it again?
02:23:46.000 Tipping Point.
02:23:46.000 It's all about different trends.
02:23:48.000 Real specific stuff like what caused this uptick in syphilis in one part of the country?
02:23:58.000 What are all these factors that fall in place that all work synergistically and push something over the top?
02:24:06.000 How did Hush Puppies go from a business that was almost bankrupt To being something that, like, everywhere.
02:24:11.000 And in two years they had stores open in every mall.
02:24:14.000 And they were closed, I mean, they were open for decades without this kind of success.
02:24:21.000 And something happened and they became this hip thing to have hush puppies on.
02:24:25.000 And then, boom, the business just explodes out of nowhere.
02:24:28.000 And then these weird moments like that.
02:24:30.000 Sometimes, like, an Elon Musk-type character comes along and just, oh, I want to fucking put people on Mars.
02:24:35.000 I want to make an electric car.
02:24:36.000 I want to shoot tunnels under the ground.
02:24:38.000 Like, one of these characters comes along, and then through them, there's, like, this new river, and all this new crazy shit happens.
02:24:45.000 That guy was probably the number one for stand-up comedy for that.
02:24:52.000 Fucking massive.
02:24:53.000 Yeah, pretty crazy shit, dude.
02:24:55.000 You ever see, uh, what was the name of it?
02:24:58.000 Is it the Turing?
02:25:00.000 The Turing test?
02:25:01.000 The Turing test is whether or not you can tell if artificial intelligence is human.
02:25:06.000 Yeah, it's not the Turing test.
02:25:07.000 It's the movie about the guy who invented the computer, Turing.
02:25:10.000 Oh.
02:25:10.000 With, um, the British dude.
02:25:15.000 Um...
02:25:17.000 Are you talking about Ex Machina or like the one about the imitation game or something like that?
02:25:21.000 The imitation game, yeah.
02:25:23.000 It's fucking nuts to think, like if you watch that movie and obviously, have you seen it?
02:25:27.000 No.
02:25:28.000 The imitation game.
02:25:29.000 It's awesome.
02:25:30.000 That guy's a great fucking actor too.
02:25:32.000 I'm writing this shit down right now.
02:25:34.000 It's Doctor Strange.
02:25:35.000 Yeah, Benedict Cumberbatch.
02:25:36.000 Yeah, he's a savage.
02:25:37.000 But they go through that, in that time period, he fucking invents the fucking computer, you know?
02:25:44.000 And then they go through the time period and he's gay.
02:25:46.000 In Britain and they put him on medication that lowers his testosterone so he won't be gay.
02:25:52.000 So he won't have sex with men.
02:25:53.000 It's fucking insane.
02:25:55.000 That's a hilarious technique.
02:25:56.000 But if you think about like people who move the fucking needle, right?
02:25:59.000 Like people that change, shift, like...
02:26:01.000 If that's where it comes from, computers, and then we get to fucking hyper-intelligent, super-intelligent AI, it all started there.
02:26:09.000 That is crazy.
02:26:10.000 Well, there was a bunch of different factions, right?
02:26:13.000 A bunch of different people that were working on computers, because a woman created the very first computer code.
02:26:18.000 I forget what her name was.
02:26:20.000 Well, there's two pivotal inventions by women in computer design, and then ultimately in In the actual execution of it.
02:26:33.000 Here it is.
02:26:34.000 Ada Lovelace.
02:26:35.000 It's been called the world's first computer programmer.
02:26:38.000 What she did was write the world's first machine algorithm for an early computing machine that existed only on paper.
02:26:44.000 Of course, someone had to be the first, but Lovelace was a woman, and this was in the 1840s!
02:26:50.000 Suck it!
02:26:51.000 Suck it, stupid people.
02:26:54.000 Suck it.
02:26:55.000 Ada.
02:26:56.000 Ada was rocking shit in the 1800s.
02:26:59.000 She was figuring it out.
02:27:00.000 Imagine you'd be like, look, one day they're going to be able to do this, but right now they don't know how to do it.
02:27:04.000 But if one day, if they just figure out how to do this, this is this, and we're going to have computers, and the computers will operate on this algorithm, and people are looking at you like, bitch, what the fuck are you talking about?
02:27:14.000 Computers, like, imagine what a hell it would be.
02:27:17.000 To be a super, super genius living amongst the cave people.
02:27:21.000 You're like, you fucks, we could be flying around if you assholes knew how to melt aluminum.
02:27:25.000 Can you guys get me some glass?
02:27:26.000 You don't know glass?
02:27:28.000 Shit!
02:27:28.000 Do you have any wires?
02:27:29.000 You have no wire.
02:27:30.000 Okay.
02:27:32.000 Where do you get your metal?
02:27:33.000 You don't have metal?
02:27:35.000 WHAT?! SHIT! Can you imagine if you were looking at metal in the ground like, why don't they just pull the metal out and make things out of that?
02:27:42.000 And they're all like...
02:27:43.000 And you're like, what's the point?
02:27:45.000 What's the point in making a house?
02:27:46.000 What's the point?
02:27:47.000 What's the point in having glass windows that look out at these cave people fucking each other and stabbing mastodons in the dick with flint-tipped tools?
02:27:57.000 Fuck!
02:27:58.000 Imagine what the hell that would be.
02:27:59.000 That would be like the worst thing you could do to somebody.
02:28:02.000 Like imagine if one day they come up with a time machine and one of the punishments for people that were real pieces of shit is you would throw them in front of Genghis Khan's horde in like 1200 AD. You would just like take your underwear, you're in your underwear,
02:28:18.000 everybody knows it's gonna happen, you have a chance to live if you just might get lucky, might teleport into the right spot and Not get slaughtered and eaten by the Mongols as they come over the top of the hill.
02:28:28.000 But we're going to put you right in front of them.
02:28:30.000 And, you know, good luck, you piece of shit.
02:28:32.000 Fucking transported with a time machine.
02:28:35.000 I mean, if they do come up with the ability to do that to people one day.
02:28:41.000 Like an actual time machine.
02:28:42.000 That would be the biggest hell ever.
02:28:44.000 Take a person from 2018 who's used to driving around in his Tesla and checking his text every five minutes and...
02:28:51.000 No, we're gonna let you live.
02:28:52.000 We're gonna let you live.
02:28:53.000 But you're gonna live in 1200 AD. No doctors.
02:28:57.000 There's no doctors.
02:28:58.000 What the fuck is a doctor?
02:28:59.000 What are you talking about, man?
02:29:01.000 You gotta run.
02:29:01.000 You gotta run.
02:29:02.000 They're coming over the hill.
02:29:04.000 Don't you smell that?
02:29:04.000 Yeah, that's people burning.
02:29:06.000 You smell people burning.
02:29:07.000 They're like candles.
02:29:09.000 Run!
02:29:10.000 Just fucking run!
02:29:11.000 But you're alive.
02:29:12.000 That was the punishment.
02:29:13.000 Yeah, that'd be fucked up.
02:29:14.000 You know?
02:29:15.000 That would be crazy.
02:29:17.000 Imagine if somebody raped you and you get to decide what year they come back.
02:29:21.000 Where they have to go.
02:29:22.000 Yeah.
02:29:22.000 Just send this motherfucker back to the dinosaur era.
02:29:25.000 Good luck, you cunt.
02:29:27.000 And then they're gonna be by themselves 65 million years ago.
02:29:33.000 How many people would say yes to that?
02:29:35.000 Like, how many people said yes?
02:29:36.000 Well, we could do one thing.
02:29:40.000 Bernie Madoff.
02:29:41.000 We can either put you in jail for the rest of your life or you get freedom In prehistoric Central Asia.
02:29:50.000 What would you do?
02:29:51.000 I'd take the death by prehistoric Central Asia all day.
02:29:55.000 Yeah, you gotta fucking live.
02:29:56.000 All day.
02:29:56.000 You gotta live.
02:29:57.000 Throw me in Siberia.
02:29:58.000 If I die there, I die there.
02:29:59.000 But at least I'm not in a fucking cage until my heart stops beating.
02:30:03.000 100%.
02:30:03.000 I'd take that all day.
02:30:04.000 I'll roll the dice.
02:30:05.000 I'll roll the dice.
02:30:06.000 It'll suck.
02:30:07.000 I'll die for sure.
02:30:07.000 But I'll die running.
02:30:09.000 Or trying to get away.
02:30:11.000 Yeah, you die quickly.
02:30:13.000 I'll break a leg.
02:30:14.000 I'm not gonna die in that box.
02:30:16.000 That's the craziest thing about...
02:30:18.000 You just decide when someone has crossed some line that we're going to take you out of circulation.
02:30:25.000 We're just going to cool you in this little cage.
02:30:28.000 We're going to hope you get better when we let you out in 15 years.
02:30:32.000 What a stupid idea.
02:30:34.000 It's not working.
02:30:34.000 That's how you know it's a stupid idea.
02:30:37.000 It's not working for anyone.
02:30:39.000 You want to protect people from violent offenders.
02:30:43.000 That's primary, right?
02:30:44.000 Violent Offenders, people who want to rob people or murder people or rape people or assault people.
02:30:52.000 That is like the number one thing is we want everybody to be safe.
02:30:56.000 I love Jamie.
02:30:57.000 I don't want Jamie to have to worry when he walks down the street that this guy they locked up ten times gonna jump out of the bushes and take his knees out with a baseball bat for no fucking reason other than he's crazy, right?
02:31:07.000 You don't want that.
02:31:08.000 Nobody wants that.
02:31:09.000 So We all agree.
02:31:11.000 You gotta lock up rapists and murderers and all that.
02:31:13.000 But after that, after you get past that, it's like, hmm, what good does it do to get that guy that cheated on his taxes?
02:31:21.000 Why do you put him in a cage for a year?
02:31:24.000 Why don't you let him work and pay you back?
02:31:26.000 Like, why is he in a cage for a year?
02:31:27.000 That seems like you're punishing him.
02:31:30.000 Like, you're just trying to torture him and steal a year of his life.
02:31:33.000 But he just owes you money.
02:31:35.000 He doesn't owe you a year of his life.
02:31:36.000 How much is a year of your life worth?
02:31:37.000 It's worth fucking billions of dollars.
02:31:40.000 A year of your life?
02:31:42.000 Fuck you, man.
02:31:43.000 You can't take a year of someone's life.
02:31:44.000 That's crazy.
02:31:46.000 But if you owe taxes, they go, I'd like a year of your life, sir.
02:31:50.000 Or if you're fucking selling plants.
02:31:52.000 Selling plants.
02:31:52.000 Or worse, you're one of those people that didn't send the envelope and you're trying to bring someone that 4,000 pounds of cocaine over.
02:32:01.000 What would be a good deterrent to stop someone?
02:32:05.000 I think education is the real deterrent.
02:32:07.000 You have to catch them and there has to be punishment.
02:32:09.000 If you owe people money, there should be reparations.
02:32:12.000 If you were involved in some sort of a banking scheme and you rip people off, you should have to pay those people back, period.
02:32:18.000 You should be responsible for that.
02:32:22.000 You're assuming that someone's capable of growing, and sometimes we don't like to do that.
02:32:27.000 It's very convenient to assume that someone is in a static state and they're never gonna grow.
02:32:30.000 Oh, this old banker asshole, he's just a rich old cunt and this is how he's gonna die.
02:32:35.000 Fuck him.
02:32:36.000 There's that thing, but he's a human being.
02:32:38.000 And even if he lived his life fucking people over on those weird mortgage situation loans that were going on, what were those things called?
02:32:48.000 Those adjustable arm?
02:32:50.000 Yeah, the adjustable mortgages that people got fucked on because they signed up for them and they were really low rate and then all of a sudden their rate jacked up through the roof and they were just inevitably gonna lose their house.
02:32:59.000 And this was like something that people knew about it before.
02:33:01.000 Even the people that organized that kind of shit, even knowing, they can grow.
02:33:05.000 It's a horrible thing they did.
02:33:07.000 But to say that they're done, fuck them, lock them up forever, my grandma lost her house.
02:33:13.000 It's terrible that your grandma lost her house, and whoever the fuck benefited from your grandma losing the house, they should all have to give that money back too.
02:33:19.000 They should figure out how the fuck they allow these banks to weasel people like that.
02:33:23.000 You're not looking out for anybody's best interest when you do something like that.
02:33:27.000 And obviously they didn't know they were going to The rates were going to get as high as they got where people were in terrible situations, but they should have known something was coming.
02:33:36.000 You hit the point, though, that they should have fucking been paid back.
02:33:39.000 Yeah, they should have been paid back.
02:33:40.000 None of those fucking people got paid back.
02:33:41.000 It doesn't matter how long you lock them up for.
02:33:43.000 Nobody fucking got their house back.
02:33:45.000 Everyone got fucked over.
02:33:46.000 And even people that were involved in the organizations that were probably responsible in part for the recession, which fucked everything up, those people all got bonuses when there was bailouts.
02:33:56.000 The bailout should have been for fucking everybody who lost their home.
02:33:59.000 For sure.
02:34:00.000 For sure.
02:34:01.000 It shouldn't...
02:34:01.000 The bailout most certainly shouldn't have gone to...
02:34:04.000 I know that they have to pay these people these bonuses because these bonuses are in their contract.
02:34:08.000 But that's still crazy.
02:34:11.000 Still crazy.
02:34:12.000 Even if it's in the contract.
02:34:13.000 I mean, the government's got to bail you guys out.
02:34:16.000 You guys are a failed business.
02:34:17.000 Bank's a failed business and you're still going to try to claim that you guys did so well that you need a bonus?
02:34:24.000 Like, this is great.
02:34:24.000 And you're going to take that taxpayer money and apply it to your bonus?
02:34:27.000 So all those poor people out there working $50,000 a year, you're going to just take a giant...
02:34:32.000 What's a good one for one of those guys?
02:34:35.000 What's a good one?
02:34:36.000 What's a good bonus?
02:34:37.000 What do you think is the biggest bonus that one of those banker guys got during the bailout, if you had a guess?
02:34:42.000 $300 million?
02:34:44.000 Is it that high?
02:34:46.000 I don't think it's that high.
02:34:48.000 30 million at least.
02:34:50.000 That's what the JP Morgan guy got last year.
02:34:51.000 What did he get?
02:34:52.000 Last year, yeah.
02:34:53.000 Oh, but wait a minute.
02:34:54.000 No, we're not in a recession though.
02:34:56.000 Like they were getting it at the end of Bush's term, right?
02:35:02.000 So that was 2009, 2008?
02:35:04.000 He got 16 million.
02:35:06.000 Someone got 16 million.
02:35:07.000 Same guy.
02:35:08.000 So he got 16 million during the bailouts.
02:35:14.000 In his worst year, he got 20 million.
02:35:16.000 BALLER! What do you think his house looks like?
02:35:19.000 It's probably made out of cocaine.
02:35:20.000 It's probably like an igloo.
02:35:26.000 He walks by and licks the walls.
02:35:28.000 Here's the real question.
02:35:29.000 You give the average person 25 million bucks, they don't have to work again ever.
02:35:33.000 You know, this guy's making 20 million bucks every year, or more, probably, with all these bonuses, right?
02:35:40.000 Like, when do you get out?
02:35:43.000 Like, how much do you have to have in the bank before you go, you know what?
02:35:46.000 I'm just gonna fucking live frugally and never work again.
02:35:49.000 That guy does not need to live frugally.
02:35:51.000 He doesn't even.
02:35:52.000 Any of that fucking money.
02:35:53.000 But I mean, for most folks, like, what's the number that you'd have to get to?
02:35:57.000 Where you're like, check please.
02:35:58.000 Yeah, I don't know.
02:35:59.000 Whatever that driving force is, though, to attain that, that doesn't just magically go away.
02:36:05.000 It's not like you get to that point and you're like, all right, now I can retire.
02:36:08.000 What do you fucking do in retirement?
02:36:10.000 Look at the people who continue to work.
02:36:12.000 You have a thousand things you love to do, right?
02:36:15.000 And you're good at them.
02:36:16.000 And you're obsessed with them.
02:36:18.000 Other people don't have that.
02:36:20.000 All they know is their job.
02:36:21.000 All they know is to work.
02:36:23.000 And they have a hard time integrating when they come out of that.
02:36:26.000 You have to have something that gives your life meaning and purpose.
02:36:30.000 Yeah, that's true.
02:36:31.000 It's hard for people to take up new hobbies, too.
02:36:33.000 But really fun.
02:36:35.000 That's the thing about learning stuff.
02:36:37.000 Getting good at stuff when you suck.
02:36:39.000 There's a little, you know, there's a period in the beginning where it's frustrating, but once you, if you do do, like anything, no matter what it is, especially physical stuff, something about getting good at things, it's very rewarding, you know?
02:36:49.000 Not enough people go through that.
02:36:50.000 Not enough people, I think, try new shit out.
02:36:53.000 And I think there's also new pathways that get opened in your brain the more you try something new that you suck at.
02:36:58.000 And when you start off from that beginner phase and try to, like, put it together.
02:37:03.000 And I think...
02:37:04.000 The little journey of the beginner phase.
02:37:07.000 I think we should try something new once a year.
02:37:09.000 I really do.
02:37:10.000 I mean, maybe more.
02:37:12.000 But for me, it can't be more than once a year because I get too crazy about stuff.
02:37:15.000 For me, once a year is like I might be able to squeeze something in once a year and try it out for a little while and not let it overcome all the things I'm already crazy about.
02:37:23.000 You know?
02:37:24.000 How often do you go hunting?
02:37:26.000 Well, it's usually in the fall for elk, and then usually we do something in the early spring.
02:37:38.000 We go to lanai and we hunt for axis deer.
02:37:43.000 That gets you ready for bow hunting because they're really difficult to hunt.
02:37:48.000 They're really fast.
02:37:49.000 I just found out that Axis is 24-7 in Texas.
02:37:53.000 24-7.
02:37:54.000 Yeah, you can hunt them all day long.
02:37:55.000 But they have a real problem in the fact that they...
02:37:58.000 Especially in Lanai, they have no predators.
02:38:00.000 There's nothing.
02:38:00.000 At least in Texas, they have mountain lions.
02:38:03.000 I mean, maybe coyotes are a situation for fawns.
02:38:07.000 I would imagine coyotes get some fawns, but they don't really have many bear to speak of.
02:38:13.000 Texas, although I think Texas is seeing a resurgence in black bear population.
02:38:17.000 They're starting to see sightings of black bear.
02:38:19.000 Check to see if that's true.
02:38:21.000 Um, that would, uh, that would kill off some, they kill off a shitload of deer, little, little bear, or, um, um, little calves and, um, uh, fawns, deer fawns and cow elk calves.
02:38:35.000 When a cow elk rather gives a calf, bears get those fuckers all the time.
02:38:39.000 They get like half of them.
02:38:41.000 Half of the fawn's born.
02:38:43.000 Damn.
02:38:43.000 Yeah, they smell it a mile away.
02:38:45.000 They have, like, insane sense of smell.
02:38:48.000 They can tune in to, like, when people shoot guns and kill an animal, they think it's like a dinner bell.
02:38:56.000 Like, there's a real issue with that in, like, certain places where people hunt or there's bears.
02:39:00.000 Once you shoot something, they go, oh, I'm going that way.
02:39:03.000 I'm just going to take whatever the fuck they shot, and that'll be mine now.
02:39:06.000 And they can smell the guts as soon as you start cleaning a deer.
02:39:08.000 They smell it, like, way the fuck away from you.
02:39:12.000 Might be going home with a bear and an axis deer.
02:39:16.000 Yeah, I don't know if they...
02:39:16.000 Here, black bear spotted in another Texoma town.
02:39:20.000 Yeah.
02:39:22.000 There's a picture of it.
02:39:23.000 There it is.
02:39:23.000 That's a fucking black bear.
02:39:25.000 Imagine if you didn't know that bears existed there and you were out in the woods at night and you saw that thing.
02:39:28.000 You'd be like, it's a fucking werewolf!
02:39:30.000 Ah!
02:39:32.000 You know?
02:39:33.000 They have video of it up there?
02:39:35.000 I think it's just the picture on the trail camera river that is.
02:39:38.000 Oh, I see.
02:39:39.000 Yeah, so now they know.
02:39:41.000 Yep, that's definitely a bear.
02:39:43.000 Yeah, they travel.
02:39:45.000 Fascinating animals, man.
02:39:48.000 I mean, if they weren't real, you know, what an interesting thing that would be in fiction, especially grizzlies.
02:39:59.000 Kodiak bears.
02:40:01.000 You know, I mean, if they didn't exist, what a crazy creation that would be in a movie.
02:40:07.000 And just seeing a bear, you're like, what in the fuck is that thing?
02:40:09.000 You know?
02:40:10.000 It's a Star Wars animal.
02:40:11.000 Well, just being up close to one.
02:40:13.000 Totally different ballgame.
02:40:15.000 Have you ever seen one in the wild?
02:40:16.000 No.
02:40:17.000 When we were...
02:40:17.000 I went to the Kenai River in Alaska for salmon fishing on a bachelor party.
02:40:24.000 And in one of the tiny airports there, before we got in, they had a full-size fucking hind legs.
02:40:31.000 And I was like, good fucking God!
02:40:32.000 I had no idea.
02:40:34.000 Like, no idea how big it was.
02:40:37.000 Same with moose, though.
02:40:38.000 Like, I had no idea...
02:40:40.000 What's the matter, Jamie?
02:40:41.000 This happened here.
02:40:42.000 Woman says she stabbed bear during an attack in California Park.
02:40:46.000 Yeah, they have black bear in...
02:40:47.000 Los Angeles.
02:40:48.000 Los Angeles?
02:40:49.000 Pacific Coast Trail in Los Angeles.
02:40:51.000 What?
02:40:51.000 Watch your shit, Joe Rogan.
02:40:53.000 What?
02:40:54.000 I freaked out.
02:40:54.000 Holy shit.
02:40:56.000 A popular park in California is back open Friday after a woman says she was attacked by a bear and had to stab it in order to escape.
02:41:02.000 Los Angeles County Sheriff's officials say the attack was reported...
02:41:16.000 I'm about to find out.
02:41:26.000 I'm about to find out.
02:41:42.000 Holy shit, this bitch is gangster.
02:41:44.000 She stabbed a bear, and she's the first in LA to stab a bear.
02:41:47.000 That girl's ready, though.
02:41:49.000 Respect.
02:41:50.000 Right?
02:41:51.000 I mean, she pulled that fucking knife out, stabbed that bear, and the bear scratched her, and she's like, I'm good.
02:41:55.000 I don't need to go to a fucking pussy-ass doctor.
02:41:59.000 I just stabbed a bear, motherfucker.
02:42:02.000 Where is it?
02:42:02.000 Is it off the 10?
02:42:04.000 What is that?
02:42:05.000 Near Palmdale.
02:42:06.000 Oh, interesting.
02:42:08.000 That's not Los Angeles.
02:42:10.000 Yeah, it's like north of here.
02:42:11.000 Okay, near Palmdale.
02:42:13.000 Palmdale is way out there, man.
02:42:15.000 Where's Palmdale?
02:42:16.000 Okay, it's halfway between here and Palmdale.
02:42:18.000 Go back out again a little bit?
02:42:21.000 Where's some of the streets of the cities right?
02:42:24.000 Angelus Forest.
02:42:25.000 It's right in between.
02:42:25.000 Oh, okay.
02:42:26.000 So it's near where the 2 is, right?
02:42:27.000 Yeah, just north of Burbank.
02:42:29.000 Oh, okay.
02:42:29.000 Is that the 2?
02:42:30.000 This is the 14. This is the 5, and then this is the...
02:42:34.000 Okay.
02:42:35.000 That Angelus Crest Highway is gorgeous up there.
02:42:38.000 That's where Jay Leno does all of his stuff when he takes cars up there and, like, does that Jay Leno's Garage shit and drives up there.
02:42:44.000 Fucking beautiful up there.
02:42:46.000 God, it's crazy.
02:42:47.000 So that's where the bear was.
02:42:48.000 That makes sense.
02:42:49.000 There's bears up there.
02:42:51.000 There's bears in Santa Barbara, believe it or not.
02:42:54.000 I believe it.
02:42:55.000 It's mountainous, right?
02:42:56.000 Yeah, people find bears out there.
02:42:58.000 You spent time in there.
02:43:00.000 Santa Barbara?
02:43:01.000 Yeah.
02:43:01.000 Yeah.
02:43:02.000 I love it out there.
02:43:03.000 It's gorgeous.
02:43:04.000 You know, it's real unfortunate what happened in this last mudslide.
02:43:09.000 Do you know about that?
02:43:10.000 A lot of people died in a mudslide.
02:43:11.000 I heard about that.
02:43:12.000 My old man, I think it was...
02:43:15.000 Last year, he lives in the Santa Cruz Mountains, and he was fucking trapped, like, not in his home, but in his small town for two weeks.
02:43:23.000 Whoa.
02:43:23.000 Because the road that leads to the 17, how you get from Santa Cruz to San Jose.
02:43:27.000 Yeah.
02:43:28.000 Completely shut down.
02:43:29.000 Tons of mudslides.
02:43:30.000 That's right.
02:43:31.000 And the PCH was shut down for a long stretch, right?
02:43:34.000 Mm-hmm.
02:43:35.000 I think it still is.
02:43:36.000 I think it's still down.
02:43:38.000 I think the stretch of highway that'll take you from San Luis Obispo all the way up to San Francisco, that's the PCH, right?
02:43:49.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:43:50.000 There's a spot, on the way to Big Sur, there's a spot where I don't think you can get through it anymore.
02:43:55.000 I think it's still fucked up.
02:43:57.000 See if that thing is still closed.
02:43:59.000 But it was a giant stretch that got wiped out.
02:44:02.000 Like, they had these photos of before and after.
02:44:04.000 It's like, imagine seeing that go down.
02:44:06.000 Imagine being in your little fucking MG convertible.
02:44:09.000 Zipping along.
02:44:10.000 Look at the ocean.
02:44:11.000 Boy, life is grand.
02:44:13.000 And you see this fucking mountain coming down.
02:44:16.000 Just, you know, this is it.
02:44:17.000 This is it.
02:44:18.000 This is how it's gonna go.
02:44:20.000 It's back open now.
02:44:21.000 Oh, they opened.
02:44:22.000 Beautiful.
02:44:22.000 How long did it take to reopen it?
02:44:24.000 I don't know.
02:44:25.000 It's been open for earlier this year.
02:44:26.000 Ah, nice.
02:44:28.000 That's good.
02:44:29.000 How did they ever...
02:44:30.000 Did they say how they figured it out?
02:44:31.000 Because there were some questions as to whether or not they were going to dig it out or whether they were going to put a new road over the top of the dirt that's there now.
02:44:39.000 Road-tripping hipsters.
02:44:43.000 Is that what it says?
02:44:44.000 Where does it say that?
02:44:44.000 Road-tripping hipsters, vacation families.
02:44:47.000 Oh, that's vacation families.
02:44:48.000 That's...
02:44:48.000 What a weird...
02:44:50.000 Thing to say.
02:44:50.000 Residents survived by creating hiking trails that enabled people to bypass the highway closures by foot.
02:44:56.000 And those courageous enough to drive could take on the Nascimento-Ferguson Road with its hairpin turns and steep drops.
02:45:05.000 Yikes.
02:45:06.000 It crosses the Santa Lucia range and connects the Big Sur coast with Route 101 further inland.
02:45:13.000 Given the challenges, several tourism businesses simply closed up shop for the summer.
02:45:18.000 Wow.
02:45:19.000 Imagine having a hike for food and shit and you realize like, oh my god, we live on Big Sur.
02:45:25.000 We're trapped.
02:45:26.000 What are we thinking?
02:45:27.000 What the fuck are we thinking?
02:45:28.000 The earth wasn't going to move?
02:45:29.000 You wouldn't have a knife on you or...
02:45:31.000 What would you do?
02:45:32.000 You wouldn't have shit.
02:45:33.000 You wouldn't have shit.
02:45:34.000 You'd be out there with your Birkenstocks on.
02:45:37.000 Talking about your next ayahuasca session.
02:45:39.000 Next thing you know, you see that mountain coming down on you.
02:45:42.000 Yikes!
02:45:42.000 Looking through your fanny pack, saying, like, where's all the functional shit in my utility belt right now?
02:45:47.000 I don't even have a key.
02:45:49.000 Like, at least you can have an old-school key.
02:45:51.000 You can kind of cut things a little bit with a key.
02:45:53.000 Most people don't even have a fucking key anymore.
02:45:55.000 Keyless entry cars.
02:45:56.000 And you have fobs.
02:45:57.000 You have a key for your house, and you get a fob for everything else.
02:46:02.000 Fucking fobs.
02:46:04.000 How long before we wear those things?
02:46:06.000 I have one in my wallet.
02:46:08.000 I have a Lexus and it's a card.
02:46:10.000 My key is a card.
02:46:12.000 Card entry.
02:46:13.000 Yeah.
02:46:13.000 You just keep it in the wallet.
02:46:14.000 Keep it in the wallet.
02:46:15.000 Yeah.
02:46:16.000 I like that.
02:46:16.000 Yeah, it's great.
02:46:17.000 Yeah.
02:46:18.000 So you always have your wallet.
02:46:19.000 You always have your card.
02:46:20.000 That's better because even with all the keyless entry shit now, like it's still got a spot for it in my fanny pack.
02:46:25.000 It's still taking up way more space than it needs to.
02:46:28.000 Yeah, way more, right?
02:46:29.000 Phone is close to being one.
02:46:31.000 You just didn't have to have that screen with you all the time.
02:46:33.000 Imagine if you could program your phone, though, to open up your car, and then someone steals your phone, and then they steal your car!
02:46:38.000 I can.
02:46:38.000 I mean, you can use the BMW app.
02:46:40.000 Oh, you'd have to open...
02:46:41.000 You can unlock your car?
02:46:43.000 I can unlock my car.
02:46:43.000 I can make a beep from here.
02:46:44.000 I can turn the air conditioning on and, like, ventilate it.
02:46:47.000 That's savage.
02:46:48.000 Dude.
02:46:49.000 I didn't even know that was possible.
02:46:50.000 It tells you where you parked.
02:46:51.000 Look at you.
02:46:53.000 Goddamn.
02:46:54.000 I didn't even know they could do that yet.
02:46:55.000 Turn that shit on.
02:46:56.000 Kyle Kingsbury, we're living in the goddamn future.
02:46:58.000 We are.
02:46:59.000 We are.
02:47:00.000 There's no doubt.
02:47:01.000 You guys are setting up the fucking little AI machine out there right now.
02:47:04.000 Oh, that's not AI. That's virtual reality.
02:47:09.000 There's a big difference.
02:47:10.000 That's a vibe.
02:47:11.000 Yeah, but soon enough, you're going to interact with shit that's going to be...
02:47:16.000 It's gonna change the world.
02:47:17.000 I think someone needs to set up like a Muay Thai game on that Vive.
02:47:22.000 Like, they have a boxing game, someone needs to set something up with kicks, you know?
02:47:26.000 And have someone who kicks at you, you know?
02:47:29.000 You'd have to alter your technique a little bit.
02:47:31.000 Yeah, because your follow through on the kicks and all that shit, like, it teaches people to point spar.
02:47:36.000 It does, but it wouldn't be your, if it wasn't your only training.
02:47:40.000 If it was your only training.
02:47:42.000 You know like a lot of Thai guys go light anyway when they spar.
02:47:44.000 When they spar Thai style, they're playing with each other.
02:47:47.000 You can kind of do that with this and just do it fast.
02:47:50.000 And then as long as you did like pad work and real sparring on top of it, I bet it would add, I bet it would add something.
02:47:58.000 It just makes sense.
02:47:59.000 You would constantly be reacting, but there would be no consequences.
02:48:04.000 You would constantly be reacting to movement, and you would get it to react to you, but there would be no consequences.
02:48:11.000 So you could do it all the time and not worry about hurting yourself.
02:48:15.000 You also wouldn't worry about like getting hit so you'd be a little freer with your motions I think if they that would have to be another human playing you though because if it's just fucking some computer I mean they got to write in an algorithm on how often the faint works how often it doesn't like If it didn't if it wasn't scared it wouldn't give a shit.
02:48:33.000 It would just block everything and destroy you Well, it knows where your body is Right.
02:48:38.000 Perfect distance.
02:48:39.000 So it has to have some sort of...
02:48:41.000 Yeah, you would have a haptic fucking jumpsuit on.
02:48:43.000 You'd have a haptic, like, wetsuit.
02:48:45.000 Like, all the way to the top.
02:48:46.000 And so if you get hit with, like, an inside leg kick, you'd hear the slap.
02:48:49.000 You'd feel that slap on the inside of your thigh.
02:48:51.000 Like, whoo!
02:48:53.000 It's not perfect.
02:48:55.000 But I think there would be something real beneficial about that.
02:48:58.000 Just constantly moving and constantly reacting to this thing in front of you.
02:49:04.000 You would just put in a lot of reps that way.
02:49:06.000 Gaging distance.
02:49:07.000 Yeah.
02:49:08.000 A lot of reps.
02:49:09.000 But it would be interesting to know, like, would it know when you really hit it with stuff?
02:49:14.000 Like, if you're not hitting anything.
02:49:16.000 What about, like, when are you getting jammed?
02:49:19.000 You know, when are you hitting it and when are you too close?
02:49:21.000 Yeah, like the power meter.
02:49:22.000 Right.
02:49:23.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:49:24.000 Yeah, you landed the kick.
02:49:25.000 It's not all kicks are the same.
02:49:27.000 Right.
02:49:27.000 Does it count the same just because you make contact?
02:49:29.000 Yeah, if you go to throw a front kick and someone's here and you get your knee up high and then you push into it, that's a big difference between the guy being here.
02:49:36.000 And you're just kind of falling backwards.
02:49:39.000 Does it know?
02:49:40.000 Pushes you back versus pushes him back.
02:49:42.000 That's huge with sparring.
02:49:45.000 Having a good sense of distance.
02:49:48.000 I wonder how it knows that.
02:49:49.000 Like, exactly where your foot lands.
02:49:51.000 I think some of the coolest shit that I've seen with that is, like, the artwork you can do in those worlds.
02:49:56.000 It's not exactly, this is crude of what you guys are talking about.
02:49:59.000 It's called Drunken Fist Fight.
02:50:01.000 The guy's gonna grab a pool stick and crack that guy?
02:50:05.000 Oh, whoa.
02:50:06.000 So they're sort of reacting to them.
02:50:08.000 But right now, the VR thing's only tracking the sensors.
02:50:11.000 So you have to have a haptic suit that has sensors in it.
02:50:14.000 And I don't think they're quite that far yet.
02:50:17.000 You know what I mean?
02:50:17.000 Right.
02:50:18.000 There'll be a lot of sensors.
02:50:19.000 And right now, that thing's only tracking the headset and the two things you put on your hands.
02:50:22.000 Yeah.
02:50:23.000 And you can add more of those to maybe put it on your foot or something like that.
02:50:26.000 But it's like just tracking it in space.
02:50:29.000 So it's not tracking impact or speed or...
02:50:33.000 Maybe a little bit of speed, I suppose.
02:50:35.000 Yeah, this is super crude.
02:50:36.000 Give it 10 years.
02:50:37.000 Yeah.
02:50:39.000 But you need lots of sensors.
02:50:41.000 I don't even know what you would need to track an impact.
02:50:44.000 Oh, so you're in a bar and you're supposed to be fighting these guys in a bar.
02:50:48.000 Yeah.
02:50:49.000 This is just super simple but like these are just programmed you know like AI bots that are just like watching a swipe of a hand near its face and they've just programmed a little like movement is all hmm so you get I don't know I would say the long time away but maybe not I think the real move one day is AI robots that know jujitsu and go at like 50 percent speed That would have to be the case.
02:51:15.000 You've been watching Westworld?
02:51:16.000 No.
02:51:16.000 I watched the first episode of the new season, and I haven't.
02:51:19.000 I've been on a Kimmy Schmidt kick.
02:51:21.000 What's that?
02:51:22.000 Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt.
02:51:23.000 It's a hilarious show on Netflix about a chick who was stuck in a bomb shelter with a religious cult for 15 years.
02:51:31.000 She comes out, she does no shit about the world.
02:51:33.000 It's really funny, man.
02:51:35.000 Tina Fey's show.
02:51:36.000 Oh, okay.
02:51:36.000 It's not fictional.
02:51:37.000 It's a Netflix show.
02:51:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:51:39.000 It's a comedy.
02:51:39.000 Okay.
02:51:40.000 So I take little breaks.
02:51:42.000 I go Vikings, Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt.
02:51:44.000 I never got into Vikings.
02:51:45.000 Damn, it's good, dude.
02:51:46.000 I heard it's good.
02:51:46.000 You give it a few episodes.
02:51:47.000 I never got in.
02:51:48.000 That shit heats up around episode four.
02:51:50.000 It's a good goddamn show.
02:51:51.000 Yeah, season two of Westworld heats up around episode four.
02:51:54.000 Yeah, I watched the first episode and I've just been busy.
02:51:57.000 It's damn good.
02:51:58.000 I like that.
02:52:00.000 Anything that gets me to think about consciousness, what that is, what it can be, and then where our future's at.
02:52:06.000 I wish you had seen it.
02:52:08.000 I wanted to fucking dive into that.
02:52:08.000 Who is the woman who plays the main character?
02:52:11.000 What is her name?
02:52:13.000 I forget.
02:52:14.000 The actual actor.
02:52:15.000 Something Wood.
02:52:16.000 Madeline.
02:52:17.000 She's a beast.
02:52:18.000 That girl, she's so good.
02:52:21.000 She's a great actress.
02:52:22.000 She's so good.
02:52:23.000 She was married to, what's his name, right?
02:52:25.000 The goth dude.
02:52:29.000 Marilyn Manson?
02:52:30.000 Yes.
02:52:32.000 Rachel Wood?
02:52:33.000 Evan Rachel Wood.
02:52:35.000 She does an amazing job of getting you convinced that she's both a person and a robot.
02:52:45.000 It's really creepy.
02:52:47.000 She just nails it.
02:52:49.000 There's other people on the show that are great.
02:52:51.000 There's a lot of great people on the show, but for whatever reason, her combination and the lady with the British accent.
02:53:00.000 Is that her name?
02:53:01.000 Maeve?
02:53:01.000 She's a beast.
02:53:02.000 Yeah, the her.
02:53:03.000 Phenomenal.
02:53:04.000 Same thing.
02:53:05.000 Like, there's a scene with her.
02:53:07.000 I don't want to...
02:53:07.000 Spoiler alert.
02:53:08.000 Her talking to another one of these robots about her daughter.
02:53:12.000 And you're like, Jesus Christ.
02:53:13.000 This is so fascinating because...
02:53:16.000 The writing is so goddamn good, and then the acting is so goddamn good that it has this weird effect where you know they're kind of fucked up for people, but they're not really people, but they seem very people-like.
02:53:30.000 There's just a perfect amount of off.
02:53:33.000 Just the perfect amount of like, what in the fuck are you?
02:53:36.000 Well, you get to see them learn, too, and figure out what it means to be conscious.
02:53:42.000 Anything Anthony Hopkins is in, I'm down.
02:53:44.000 I'm down too.
02:53:46.000 Have you finished Wild Wild Country?
02:53:49.000 No.
02:53:50.000 No, I went episode one and I was like, I don't even know if I could do this.
02:53:53.000 Oh, you have to!
02:53:54.000 I'm going back.
02:53:54.000 I'm going back.
02:53:55.000 Fuck!
02:53:55.000 Don't worry, I'm going back.
02:53:56.000 I just need a little break.
02:53:58.000 Oh, man.
02:53:59.000 I got real life shit to do, man.
02:54:00.000 I'll get back to it, I promise.
02:54:04.000 There's something about cults, and there's something about seeing people just hook, line, and sinker, roll out the red carpet, here he comes, here he comes, here he comes.
02:54:13.000 That stuff freaks me out.
02:54:15.000 That stuff freaks me out.
02:54:18.000 I think because I've seen it.
02:54:20.000 I've seen it with martial arts especially.
02:54:23.000 I've seen it with a lot of the old school martial arts schools.
02:54:28.000 We're very culty.
02:54:30.000 Very culty.
02:54:32.000 You know, I don't know if you follow McDojoLife on Instagram.
02:54:36.000 Oh, dude.
02:54:39.000 I'm just gonna give you a treat here mcdojo life is a awesome collection of the fakest martial arts you've ever seen in your life and Something about these videos is so goddamn compelling because these people who are the students They know the shit does not really work,
02:54:55.000 but they pretend that it works Because they're just, they're in a cult, you know?
02:55:01.000 And this guy's like teaching people, like if someone comes to grab him, like to try to take him down like some wrestler.
02:55:07.000 Check it out.
02:55:07.000 He's gonna put his hand here.
02:55:08.000 Give me some volume on this, Jamie.
02:55:11.000 Small intestine.
02:55:14.000 He's gonna get it right from the neck.
02:55:17.000 And take the bladder point.
02:55:19.000 Bladder point.
02:55:22.000 Just making shit up.
02:55:24.000 Dude's just making shit up.
02:55:25.000 Look at homeboy's mustache behind him.
02:55:28.000 He comes in, touches him, hits him here.
02:55:33.000 That's all you need to do, bro.
02:55:34.000 Cain Velasquez shoots that power double.
02:55:36.000 Just put that left hand...
02:55:38.000 Look at that.
02:55:39.000 He just KO'd him.
02:55:40.000 He KO'd him, bro.
02:55:42.000 Get him up.
02:55:43.000 This is important.
02:55:44.000 He smacks the shit out of him.
02:55:49.000 And this guy really believes this.
02:55:51.000 That's an anti-Gracy move, he says.
02:55:54.000 Bitch, try that.
02:55:56.000 Try that on Henzo, you fucking dummy.
02:56:00.000 There's so many of these, but this guy has like an awesome collection of them.
02:56:04.000 Look at this.
02:56:05.000 The guy gets out and throws everybody to the ground.
02:56:07.000 Hi-yah!
02:56:08.000 I'm a master.
02:56:09.000 They're gone.
02:56:10.000 Just look at this, man.
02:56:11.000 They're all grabbing him, and he's like, but I have superpowers, and you don't.
02:56:17.000 They might as well be five.
02:56:18.000 They might as well be five-year-olds on a playground, and one of them pretends he's Doctor Strange.
02:56:22.000 You grab me, I'm going to send you back to Mordor.
02:56:28.000 What's the first guy just go straight for it and didn't even move for him?
02:56:31.000 Yeah, it's so stupid.
02:56:32.000 It's so stupid, but this is what I'm saying.
02:56:34.000 These are cults.
02:56:36.000 There's something about this shit that freaks me the fuck out.
02:56:38.000 And my martial arts school that I started out in, Taekwondo School, was very strict.
02:56:44.000 There was a lot of discipline.
02:56:45.000 It wasn't really culty, but they're all a little culty.
02:56:49.000 They're all a little culty.
02:56:50.000 Well, there's master and mister and all that stuff.
02:56:53.000 There's always a little bit of that, but we would go to tournaments and then we would see it full-on Just full-on cults like one guy would be the kung-fu master and have all his students and I'll be at his command and he'd be telling them what to do They'd scream it out and shit just like karate kid.
02:57:09.000 There's a lot of a man There's hundreds of these weird little schools that were run by people that were running their own little cults But at least at least at the tournaments like you guys are getting actually fucking compete, right?
02:57:20.000 So the kids, even though they're like dogs, they're well-trained, they always listen, yes sir, yes sir, they still get to get on the mat and they experience loss, they experience some form of fucking real-worldness.
02:57:32.000 It's not like the shit on McDojo.
02:57:35.000 What's stunning about McDojo life is how many of them there are.
02:57:39.000 And they're making videos.
02:57:41.000 This is the thing.
02:57:41.000 These people...
02:57:42.000 Just scroll and show how many videos this guy's got up.
02:57:45.000 I mean, I don't even know how many.
02:57:47.000 There's probably hundreds.
02:57:49.000 But the thing is, this is just what's on video, man.
02:57:52.000 I don't understand how the people that come to these places, they don't ask...
02:57:57.000 For competition?
02:57:58.000 They don't ask to see somebody compete?
02:58:01.000 They don't know any better, man.
02:58:02.000 But is it always like, oh, if I did this to a man, he'd die.
02:58:06.000 Is that what everyone believes?
02:58:08.000 Look at this one.
02:58:09.000 This guy, when a guy has a knife to his neck, he's going to smush the guy's hand with his chin.
02:58:14.000 Watch this.
02:58:14.000 He's going to make the guy tap.
02:58:17.000 Check this out.
02:58:19.000 The guy's got a knife right to his neck, and he's like, but what you need to do, try it on me.
02:58:26.000 As soon as he gets that knife near me, not the same spot, bitch.
02:58:29.000 That's not the same spot.
02:58:31.000 Right?
02:58:31.000 Watch this.
02:58:32.000 He's like, okay, I give up, but I will take my hand and then my chin will make your hand hurt like this.
02:58:42.000 Watch this guy.
02:58:45.000 This is dumb as shit.
02:58:46.000 Hurry up and get to it.
02:58:47.000 Here he goes.
02:58:48.000 Look.
02:58:49.000 He's making him tap.
02:58:50.000 He's grabbing his own hand.
02:58:51.000 See, he grabs his own head.
02:58:54.000 Oh.
02:58:55.000 Oh.
02:58:56.000 Look at that.
02:58:57.000 Look at that armbar.
02:58:59.000 Ferocious.
02:59:00.000 Ferocious.
02:59:00.000 At no point in time would that guy have been able to stab the fuck out of him with that giant knife in his hand.
02:59:07.000 That still looks a little bit more believable than the other ones.
02:59:09.000 Go to the one right next to it where the guy's on his knees.
02:59:12.000 There.
02:59:13.000 That one right there.
02:59:14.000 Watch this one.
02:59:14.000 This one's so fucking stupid.
02:59:16.000 I mean...
02:59:18.000 He can't.
02:59:19.000 You can't.
02:59:20.000 Reach me with that hand.
02:59:21.000 Reach me with that hand.
02:59:23.000 Reach me with that hand.
02:59:24.000 You cannot.
02:59:25.000 You cannot.
02:59:27.000 You can't.
02:59:28.000 Reach me with that hand.
02:59:30.000 Reach me with that hand.
02:59:32.000 You cannot.
02:59:37.000 The fucking handlebar mustache is like straight Ben Stiller.
02:59:40.000 But this is why I think I get freaked out by cults, is that when I was a young teenager and I started doing martial arts, I saw certain elements of that.
02:59:48.000 I went to Catholic school for just one year when I was young, when I was seven, first grade, actually six, right?
02:59:54.000 It was fucking horrible.
02:59:56.000 I remember thinking that I can't believe all these people are just doing this.
03:00:01.000 All these people are following along.
03:00:03.000 It was so awful.
03:00:05.000 Okay, enough.
03:00:05.000 I don't want to see any more of these.
03:00:07.000 I can't.
03:00:07.000 They're so stupid.
03:00:08.000 They're all so stupid.
03:00:09.000 He's got hundreds of them, man.
03:00:11.000 But, um, I recognized that, like, when I was young, I was like, this is not, this doesn't make sense.
03:00:17.000 This is just, everybody's just going along with this.
03:00:20.000 This is normal, to leave your kids with this mean-ass nun, and all these fucking people are, everybody's like, stay in order!
03:00:26.000 Everyone's nasty to you, and the hidden kids are like, oof!
03:00:29.000 It was awful.
03:00:30.000 And I remember thinking, man, there's something that happens to people when they get big groups of them together and they agree on irrational shit.
03:00:38.000 There's some weird thing that happens to people where everybody...
03:00:41.000 This can't be right.
03:00:42.000 That lady is not acting in the name of God.
03:00:44.000 There's no fucking way.
03:00:45.000 She's a crazy, mean old lady, and I gotta listen to her because she works for God?
03:00:49.000 This is fucking nuts!
03:00:51.000 Can I talk to God?
03:00:52.000 Does he know how she acts?
03:00:53.000 No, you gotta talk through me.
03:00:54.000 Yeah, you gotta talk through her.
03:00:55.000 She's a representative of God.
03:00:57.000 I got the phone line.
03:00:57.000 Yeah, your fucking parents take you there and drop you off and leave you with these monsters all day.
03:01:02.000 You're like, what?
03:01:02.000 And some of them got fucked, right?
03:01:05.000 Some of them got molested.
03:01:06.000 Not just some of them, quite a few.
03:01:08.000 So, I think I had a healthy respect for that and fear of that when I was really young.
03:01:14.000 And then I saw some of the same elements when I started doing martial arts.
03:01:19.000 Particularly with some of the more ridiculous...
03:01:22.000 Like, really rigid, traditional-type styles.
03:01:25.000 A lot of kung fu.
03:01:26.000 There was a lot of, like, you know, for every hundred martial arts schools, you had three or four that were just flat-out cults.
03:01:34.000 I just made those numbers up out of thin air.
03:01:36.000 Who was that?
03:01:37.000 Like the 1%.
03:01:38.000 Who was the guy, I think it was in China, that fucked up one of these fake grandmasters, and then he had to go into hiding.
03:01:47.000 Yeah.
03:01:48.000 Who was that guy?
03:01:48.000 There was two of them.
03:01:50.000 One of them happened recently.
03:01:51.000 That was the guy with yellow sneakers on, right?
03:01:53.000 He was an MMA guy.
03:01:55.000 Yeah, yeah.
03:01:55.000 Yeah, and he fucked this guy up.
03:01:58.000 It took all of two strikes to fucking dismantle that old fart.
03:02:02.000 Yeah, I mean, it's not fair.
03:02:04.000 You're dealing with someone who's...
03:02:06.000 Delusional, but it is fair because we all need to see that because there's some people that really did believe that guy had magic powers because They run a cult like these people that are doing all this death touch that when they see the their students like oh They fall down they believe that they're getting jolted and some weird might maybe not a hundred percent But there's a small percentage of their bank brain that's willing to not just go along with it But to believe this guy something special That guy with the yellow sneakers didn't give a fuck about that.
03:02:33.000 He just beat the shit out of that dude.
03:02:35.000 And for everybody else but that dude, that's good.
03:02:38.000 You know, for that guy to find out that he's not really some possessor of magic powers.
03:02:44.000 I mean, if he really did believe it, here it is.
03:02:47.000 Oh, red sneakers.
03:02:48.000 A different one, maybe.
03:02:48.000 No, this is it.
03:02:49.000 This is it.
03:02:51.000 He just beats the shit out of this dude.
03:02:53.000 I mean, real quick.
03:02:55.000 He just storms him, boom, hits him with the right hand, boom, another right hand, and just gets him on the ground and beats the fuck out of him.
03:03:03.000 I mean, this is like maybe six or seven seconds before they stop it.
03:03:07.000 He's out cold.
03:03:08.000 I have those mats in my house.
03:03:10.000 Puzzle mats?
03:03:10.000 Yeah, they're in the living room.
03:03:11.000 The exact color.
03:03:13.000 I check them like that, too.
03:03:14.000 You're an animal.
03:03:14.000 You keep in the living room?
03:03:16.000 Uh-huh.
03:03:16.000 That's hardcore.
03:03:17.000 We can just fucking do yoga.
03:03:18.000 We can roll.
03:03:19.000 That's hardcore.
03:03:20.000 I'll wrestle with my son there.
03:03:21.000 You'd freak people out if they came into your house.
03:03:23.000 If they're new in the neighborhood.
03:03:24.000 So, uh...
03:03:25.000 Fucking hang out with me for a minute in the living room.
03:03:28.000 Come on over and have some cacao.
03:03:29.000 Stipping through my gorge.
03:03:31.000 Cacao.
03:03:31.000 Yeah, it's like a mild dose of MDMA. Hey, look at my living room.
03:03:35.000 It's fucking wrestling mats.
03:03:36.000 Nothing creepy about that.
03:03:38.000 That's the move.
03:03:40.000 This big giant dude, this big jack giant dude is drinking cacao with his fucking five-finger toe shoes on.
03:03:48.000 Yeah, welcome to the neighborhood.
03:03:50.000 That's the neighbor.
03:03:52.000 Yeah, come on in.
03:03:52.000 Come on in.
03:03:53.000 Yeah, he really loves yoga.
03:04:00.000 Isn't it funny?
03:04:01.000 Like, that sounds like a great thing if you were single, you know?
03:04:05.000 Like, if you're just a bunch of guys living together, I've heard a hundred stories.
03:04:08.000 Yeah, we have our living room matted up, and we just drill.
03:04:11.000 I know a lot of guys who got really good because of that.
03:04:14.000 Like, jiu-jitsu guys that wound up being roommates with other jiu-jitsu guys.
03:04:17.000 And so instead of just going to class every day and rolling, they would take, like, one or two days a week, and they would do, like, a straight hour of nothing but drills.
03:04:24.000 And, like, dude, you'd be amazed at how much better you get just from doing that.
03:04:28.000 That makes sense.
03:04:29.000 Those guys don't give a fuck about pads in the living room.
03:04:30.000 That's kind of what I do with yoga, though.
03:04:32.000 I just get on the mat.
03:04:34.000 I don't have the time now to go to a full yoga class, so I'll just hit it then.
03:04:38.000 I'm there, I'll drop down.
03:04:40.000 My wife's yoga certified now, so she'll put me through some shit, and we can just do it.
03:04:43.000 That's very nice.
03:04:44.000 That's very nice to have.
03:04:45.000 Do you ever do it outside in the grass?
03:04:47.000 Yoga or rolling?
03:04:48.000 Yoga.
03:04:49.000 Yeah, I've done yoga outside in the grass.
03:04:51.000 It's nice to be outdoors.
03:04:52.000 I think it is too.
03:04:53.000 You can do yoga anywhere.
03:04:55.000 For sure.
03:04:55.000 I was doing it on the Cathedral Rock on the LSD and the cacao.
03:05:01.000 Is that candy flipping?
03:05:02.000 Or what?
03:05:02.000 How's that work?
03:05:03.000 Because it's kind of candy.
03:05:04.000 It's kind of candy flip, yeah.
03:05:05.000 Whoa, is that where candy flipping came from?
03:05:07.000 Chocolate mixed with LSD? I don't think so.
03:05:08.000 I don't think cacao's been around a little longer than LSD. Right.
03:05:12.000 But the original candy flip must have been MDMA with LSD. Probably.
03:05:16.000 But maybe it was candy.
03:05:17.000 Maybe it was cacao.
03:05:18.000 It's fucking chocolate.
03:05:19.000 A little LSD-laced chocolate.
03:05:22.000 Hmm.
03:05:23.000 What else should we keep an eye on?
03:05:27.000 As far as interesting substances?
03:05:29.000 As far as interesting substances that you didn't know can make you trip balls.
03:05:31.000 Like, now that we know it's cacao, I get a cacao shake at this fucking juice place I go to.
03:05:37.000 You're not going to see shit on cacao.
03:05:39.000 I'm saying it has similar properties.
03:05:41.000 Dude, you're not going to see aliens.
03:05:42.000 You're not going to see a damn thing.
03:05:43.000 I'm going to eat a triple dose.
03:05:44.000 Whatever you took, I'll take three times as much.
03:05:46.000 We'll see what happens.
03:05:47.000 That was an issue, though.
03:05:48.000 The issue is there's a lot of magnesium in cacao, and I had fasted for four days, so at three o'clock, I was like, we need to go now.
03:05:56.000 Wow.
03:05:56.000 And I fucking sprinted down the mountain for the shitter.
03:05:59.000 Whoa.
03:05:59.000 Straight liquid.
03:06:00.000 There you go.
03:06:00.000 Another one.
03:06:01.000 Another one.
03:06:02.000 You know what, though?
03:06:02.000 I was able to keep that tight.
03:06:04.000 I was pinching the butthole like that lady with the vaginal clip going.
03:06:07.000 It's a real accomplishment when you can do it.
03:06:09.000 It was a hard Kegel.
03:06:11.000 I almost shit myself a few months back, headed to the Improv.
03:06:15.000 I was real scared.
03:06:16.000 I got over the top of Laurel Canyon and I was going down Fairfax.
03:06:19.000 I was like, I might not make it.
03:06:22.000 I might not make it.
03:06:24.000 You start sweating?
03:06:25.000 Yeah, I was sweating hard.
03:06:26.000 Did not feel good.
03:06:28.000 Felt very nervous.
03:06:29.000 Very nervous.
03:06:30.000 Yep.
03:06:31.000 I don't know what else is out there, you know?
03:06:33.000 I know we're combining some really cool shit.
03:06:36.000 I mean, getting to work on the podcast is fucking amazing and thank you both for encouraging me to start one.
03:06:41.000 I'm glad you did, man.
03:06:42.000 You're so good at it.
03:06:43.000 It's like such a natural thing to you.
03:06:45.000 It's hard to believe that somebody had to prod you.
03:06:49.000 How do you not look at what, I mean, you're able to, you're constantly able to recite interesting information about science or medicine or physiology.
03:06:57.000 You always have this stuff at your fingertips.
03:06:59.000 Like, why wouldn't you do a podcast?
03:07:01.000 Doesn't even make sense.
03:07:01.000 It all makes sense now.
03:07:03.000 Yeah, of course.
03:07:04.000 But it's like being, like, really good at playing guitar and someone says, like, you should probably be in a band or something.
03:07:08.000 Like, fuck that.
03:07:09.000 Like, I don't know, it sounds hard.
03:07:11.000 It just doesn't seem like something I'm into.
03:07:13.000 I'm not really into music.
03:07:15.000 Yeah.
03:07:15.000 I hate music.
03:07:16.000 So yeah, we got the podcast and that's a big child of mine on it.
03:07:20.000 And then product development would probably be the other big piece of that.
03:07:24.000 Let me in on this.
03:07:25.000 How the fuck do you make those protein bites?
03:07:27.000 This sounds like a commercial, but those protein bites are, those are crack.
03:07:31.000 There's something in those things.
03:07:32.000 I've sent them to people.
03:07:33.000 My friend Aaron Snyder, he goes, dude, this shit's heroin.
03:07:35.000 Like, what's in this?
03:07:36.000 You can't stop.
03:07:37.000 We consider making them into one so it's actually a bite.
03:07:41.000 And we're like, no...
03:07:42.000 People eat both, or if they do eat one, they'll hand the other one off.
03:07:45.000 Yeah, you give one to a friend.
03:07:46.000 It's not going to waste.
03:07:48.000 No.
03:07:48.000 No.
03:07:48.000 We've got four new flavors coming out, and I get to be the guinea pig for that shit, too, with Aubrey and a few other people on the team, ETG, Lindsay.
03:07:56.000 Tastes so good.
03:07:57.000 Yeah, they're insane.
03:07:58.000 And they don't make you feel bad at all.
03:08:00.000 No.
03:08:00.000 Have to eat them.
03:08:01.000 The new flavors are going to be fucking top tier, too.
03:08:03.000 There's something about, like, I'm willing to get, like, a slightly adverse reaction if I'm hungry.
03:08:11.000 If I'm hungry and I want, like, a certain type of sugar-free protein bar, I'm like, I'll just fucking eat it.
03:08:17.000 I need something.
03:08:18.000 I'll eat it, but while I'm eating, I'm like, ugh, what is this?
03:08:20.000 What's going on here?
03:08:21.000 What is this?
03:08:22.000 You know, your body's going, yeah, you know, this is a little weird.
03:08:25.000 Like, whatever the protein in this is a little hard for me to digest.
03:08:28.000 Here's a fart for you, motherfucker.
03:08:31.000 Hopefully.
03:08:32.000 Hopefully.
03:08:33.000 But with those protein bites, it doesn't feel like you did anything wrong.
03:08:36.000 No, it's fucking healthy.
03:08:38.000 They taste good, but they don't feel like you did anything wrong.
03:08:40.000 Yeah.
03:08:40.000 So you can eat four of them.
03:08:41.000 That's the idea to make something healthy that tastes delicious.
03:08:45.000 I eat four of them all the time.
03:08:47.000 I got the thumbs up.
03:08:49.000 Normally I'm not allowed to talk about shit we're not creating, but I'll just give you this.
03:08:53.000 We're going to fucking make really delicious, healthy cereal.
03:08:57.000 Cereal?
03:08:58.000 Yeah.
03:08:58.000 Like Coco Pops?
03:09:00.000 You fucking name it.
03:09:01.000 Really?
03:09:02.000 Yeah.
03:09:02.000 How are we going to be able to do that?
03:09:04.000 Well, I can't give away the secrets, but I'm just saying, son.
03:09:07.000 We're going to have some fucking really...
03:09:08.000 Here's the thing.
03:09:08.000 Is milk healthy?
03:09:10.000 I don't think so.
03:09:13.000 I think for a lot of people it's not.
03:09:14.000 In California, you guys can get raw milk that's healthier, goat's milk's healthier.
03:09:18.000 But is raw milk healthy?
03:09:20.000 I think it's healthier than the killed-off shit.
03:09:22.000 Definitely healthier than the killed-off shit.
03:09:23.000 Where they fucking get rid of all the good bacteria that's in it.
03:09:26.000 100%.
03:09:26.000 100%.
03:09:27.000 No doubt.
03:09:28.000 And then raw goat's milk is supposed to be even better for you than that.
03:09:31.000 Yes, and the reason that we find out now...
03:09:34.000 Do you ever read The Plant Paradox by Dr. Stephen Gundry?
03:09:36.000 No.
03:09:37.000 He's a fucking savage.
03:09:38.000 Did you bring this up on the first podcast we did?
03:09:40.000 I don't think I had read that on the first podcast.
03:09:43.000 Greenfield turned me on to this guy.
03:09:45.000 He says that there's a different type of casein protein that...
03:09:50.000 Holstein black and white dairy cows make versus Southern European cows.
03:09:53.000 Goats don't make it.
03:09:54.000 Sheep don't make it.
03:09:55.000 So if you're going to have dairy, go with something from a Southern European cow or go with like goat's milk, cheese, sheep smoke cheese, those kind of things.
03:10:04.000 But I mean, if you're eating the fucking cereal like I'm doing, especially when I'm doing keto, I'll throw heavy coconut cream in there.
03:10:11.000 Like a canned coconut cream.
03:10:13.000 We're making our own keto ice cream with an ice cream maker.
03:10:15.000 Do the same shit.
03:10:16.000 Damn.
03:10:17.000 You know?
03:10:18.000 Phenomenal stuff.
03:10:18.000 I'll let my son mow that down.
03:10:20.000 You don't want dinner?
03:10:21.000 You just want ice cream?
03:10:22.000 Cool.
03:10:23.000 Whoa.
03:10:23.000 There's fucking free-range egg yolks in there.
03:10:26.000 There's no fucking...
03:10:27.000 You know, it's all natural sweeteners.
03:10:30.000 Nothing's gonna fuck with his glycemic index.
03:10:32.000 People don't think that that would be...
03:10:34.000 You know, if you...
03:10:35.000 Everyone thinks you have to suffer somewhat.
03:10:37.000 Right?
03:10:39.000 But if they could figure out a way to make something taste like a real ice cream sundae, like with whipped cream, hot chocolate, cherries, everything, and have it be super healthy for you.
03:10:48.000 There's got to be a way.
03:10:50.000 Lily's Chocolate Bars, no affiliation with those guys, but they've fucking figured out how to make chocolate delicious.
03:10:55.000 And they do it with Stevia?
03:10:56.000 They do it with Stevia and a couple other things.
03:10:59.000 What is it called again?
03:11:00.000 Lily's.
03:11:01.000 L-I-L-L-Y or I-E? Yeah, they're at Whole Foods, Sprouts, all those places.
03:11:05.000 They're fucking insane.
03:11:07.000 They're really insane.
03:11:10.000 They've got it dialed in.
03:11:11.000 But I mean, if you could melt that down on some homemade ice cream, that's something I tell people a lot is, If you're gonna cheat or if you're gonna eat for mouth pleasure, make it yourself.
03:11:23.000 Make your own fucking pizza with a better crust.
03:11:26.000 Make your own dessert with shit that's not gonna spike your blood sugar and make you fat and cause inflammation and fuck your brain up.
03:11:32.000 Just make it yourself.
03:11:34.000 Go the extra fucking mile.
03:11:35.000 Do it yourself.
03:11:36.000 It'll be way healthier.
03:11:37.000 Yeah, but people don't have time for that shit.
03:11:40.000 Do you have time to make your own keto waffles?
03:11:43.000 Really?
03:11:44.000 No.
03:11:44.000 No, I don't do that.
03:11:47.000 Have you ever had those no waffles?
03:11:50.000 I've watched, you were talking about them, and I saw, and they did a repost.
03:11:53.000 Haven't tried their waffles or their syrup, but I'm down to try.
03:11:56.000 I just haven't found the syrup anywhere.
03:11:58.000 Well, you get it from their website.
03:12:00.000 I fucked up some of their waffles with some syrup and just a pound of butter on it.
03:12:05.000 It was sensational.
03:12:06.000 That sounds like a good idea.
03:12:07.000 I didn't feel bad.
03:12:08.000 After it was over, I felt good.
03:12:10.000 I was like, I don't even feel terrible.
03:12:11.000 That's the goal of creating shit like that, right?
03:12:13.000 We've got a ton of keto shakes now at the Onnit Cafe.
03:12:16.000 Yeah.
03:12:16.000 They will fucking change your life.
03:12:18.000 Damn.
03:12:18.000 They're insanely good.
03:12:19.000 Life-changing.
03:12:20.000 Yeah.
03:12:21.000 No doubt.
03:12:22.000 And they don't make you feel bad.
03:12:23.000 That's the key, right?
03:12:24.000 Like, if there aren't some, like, I'll tell you, no plug here.
03:12:27.000 These fucking Kill Cliffs.
03:12:29.000 These are goddamn delicious.
03:12:30.000 I don't have any business affiliation with them.
03:12:33.000 But they don't, how much sugar does this thing have in it?
03:12:36.000 Zero.
03:12:36.000 It's just a rhythm.
03:12:37.000 Zero.
03:12:38.000 Zero sugar.
03:12:40.000 Shit tastes good.
03:12:41.000 But it doesn't have any bullshit in it, right?
03:12:43.000 I mean, this doesn't have any aspartame or anything.
03:12:45.000 What are they using it for?
03:12:47.000 What are they using this to sweeten it?
03:12:50.000 Erythritol.
03:12:51.000 What is that?
03:12:52.000 It's a natural sweetener that's low glycemic, similar to stevia.
03:12:55.000 Like xylitol is similar to stevia, but they all have different flavor components.
03:12:59.000 So some of them work better for an energy drink.
03:13:02.000 Some of them work better for ice cream, shit like that.
03:13:04.000 This is recovery and hydration.
03:13:06.000 That's what it is.
03:13:07.000 This shit tastes fantastic, and then there's no bad feeling afterwards.
03:13:11.000 Like, if I drank that and that was a Coke, I'd be like, oh, so good going down.
03:13:15.000 A cold Coke in the aluminum can.
03:13:18.000 You crack the top, and it's got the fucking condensation all over the top of it because it's so cold.
03:13:23.000 I haven't had a Coke in fucking 15 years, probably.
03:13:26.000 Ooh-wee!
03:13:28.000 Especially if you have some barbecue, dude, you're in the middle of a slab of ribs, and you go for that cold Coke, and you just chug, chug, chug, and you feel the syrup.
03:13:37.000 Never.
03:13:37.000 Out of here.
03:13:38.000 You feel the thick syrup making its way to your veins.
03:13:42.000 But for that mouth pleasure, you'll trade it all.
03:13:45.000 Do you like the Zevia?
03:13:46.000 Have you had Zevias?
03:13:47.000 Love it.
03:13:47.000 They're fucking amazing.
03:13:48.000 I buy them all the time.
03:13:49.000 It's not the same flavor as Coke.
03:13:51.000 I fucking love it, though.
03:13:52.000 The root beer ones.
03:13:53.000 The root beer ones.
03:13:53.000 The root beer ones.
03:13:54.000 Uh, ginger ale's good.
03:13:56.000 Yeah, they got some great ones.
03:13:56.000 They're fucking great.
03:13:57.000 Yeah, you can legit get things that taste good now that don't have sugar in them.
03:14:01.000 I mean, we're just so addicted to the things that have the sugar in them.
03:14:04.000 You know, if we could find healthy alternatives.
03:14:06.000 It's possible.
03:14:07.000 They're coming out.
03:14:08.000 They're coming out.
03:14:10.000 Well, listen, man.
03:14:11.000 Let's go fucking shoot some bows and arrows and shit.
03:14:13.000 I'm fucking down.
03:14:14.000 It's already 3 o'clock.
03:14:15.000 Let's get this over with.
03:14:16.000 Hit it.
03:14:18.000 Kingsboo on Instagram and Twitter.
03:14:21.000 Yep.
03:14:22.000 Onnit.com for everything else.
03:14:23.000 And host of the Onnit podcast, which is available on iTunes.
03:14:27.000 And where else are you guys available?
03:14:28.000 Are you on?
03:14:28.000 Everywhere.
03:14:29.000 All good.
03:14:30.000 And I think you guys are on YouTube, too, right?
03:14:32.000 Yeah, we just started doing full length.
03:14:34.000 Originally, we were doing that for...
03:14:37.000 A little marketing tool shit like that.
03:14:38.000 Put it all up.
03:14:39.000 Throw it up.
03:14:40.000 All right.
03:14:40.000 Well, listen, brother, we got to do this more often?
03:14:42.000 Fuck yeah, brother.
03:14:42.000 But we just did it.
03:14:43.000 Hell yeah.
03:14:43.000 Kyle Kingsbury, ladies and gentlemen.
03:14:45.000 We'll be back!
03:14:46.000 Frost the Hobby tomorrow.