On this episode of the Vegains Podcast, I sit down with my good friend John Joseph to talk about what it means to be a vegan, why it s important to have a plant based diet, and what it takes to live a vegan life. We also talk about John's veganism and why he doesn t like the term "vegan." John Joseph is a comedian, activist, writer, podcaster, and podcaster from New York City. He has been a vegan for over 30 years and is one of the most influential people in the vegan community. We talk about how he got into veganism, what it s like to be vegan, and how important it is to not only identify as a vegan but as a plant-based human being. I hope you enjoy this episode and that it sets a tone for the rest of the ones to come! If you like what you hear, please HIT SUBSCRIBE on Apple Podcasts and leave us a rating and review! We re listening to your favorite podcasters! Thank you so much for being a part of the pod! Cheers! -Jon Joseph Jon Joseph: J.J. is a vegan and is a badass at the same time. He is also a comedian and activist. Jon has a lot of good stuff to say and does a great job at being a vegan. . Jon is a good friend of mine and I really enjoyed this episode. I hope y'all enjoy this one. - Jon and I have a good vibes! Thanks Jon Joseph and I hope that you enjoy it. Love ya'll! -Jon is a lot! Jon and Joe: - - John Joseph:) Thank You, Jon: :D Sarah:) -Jon: Jon: @ Ben: . . , & Jimmy: , John: ? : Jay: | + ; | @ , . : ) Thanks, and @ & @ :) -Jos ( ) :), . , , & , J: & J: ) , and , Thank you, Jon ! ~ ? , & . , And , Thanks Jon: ) .
00:00:55.000I would say, people say, you know, I don't like to put any type of material label on myself.
00:01:05.000And if somebody says to me and pushes the issue, I'm like, I'm more of a Hare Krishna, Bhakta Yoga person than I am a vegan.
00:01:15.000You know, even though I don't wear animal products, I don't use animal products, I eat a plant-based diet 100%.
00:01:21.000But to call myself that just puts me in some, you know, some shelf.
00:01:29.000Oh, it's just another vegan or whatever the fuck, you know?
00:01:33.000Well, you know, it seems to me that people are always searching for an identity.
00:01:37.000And if they have an identity that, you know, I'm a carnivore, I'm on the carnivore diet, which is all the latest trend.
00:01:43.000And then people get really hopped up on that.
00:01:46.000And that's all they want to do is talk carnivore diet.
00:01:48.000The difference between what's happening right now with this carnivore diet and vegans seems very similar to me in that they're very into the identity of their food.
00:05:03.000So if you see some goodness in someone...
00:05:05.000You have to be able to fan that spark, not throw water on it.
00:05:09.000And that's the problem that's being done is people are so judgmental because they've built this walls, the walls between them, that it's just fall finding.
00:05:20.000And I was telling the guys I trained them this morning, we're doing this 30 to life with Kip Anderson and...
00:05:26.000We're at the Amity Foundation where these guys got paroled and I said, look, there's two types of mentality in the world.
00:05:32.000There's the B mentality that's looking for the sweet and the good in people and then there's the flies and they're looking for the shit.
00:05:39.000I said, when you see shit on a sidewalk and a dog takes a shit or in New York a human takes a shit within a matter of fucking 20 seconds there's flies on that motherfucker.
00:05:53.000So I try to roll with the PMA Which I learned from Bad Brains, Positive Mental Attitude, which Napoleon Hill, HR copped it from Napoleon Hill, Think and Grow Rich and all those books on self-help.
00:06:07.000And it was like he told me no matter what circumstances you may be in, and I was in the Navy at the time in Norfolk, Fucking smuggling, fucking up, catching cases, took Navy over going back to jail, and I was fucking up.
00:06:23.000Fucked out of my mind, hanging out with Henry Rollins and Ian McKay and all those guys in the D.C. hardcore scene and New York punk scene.
00:06:32.000You know, hanging with John Belushi on Fear that night.
00:06:35.000We were the ones that wrecked the set of Saturday Night Live and just, you know, just doing crazy shit.
00:06:40.000And he just told me, you know, whatever you may be going through in life, if you keep a positive mental attitude, you could get through anything.
00:06:48.000So how am I going to criticize people just because you eat meat or do whatever?
00:06:55.000You know, and some of these people are hardcore Christians, and it's like you're supposed to say, hey, what, you know, hate the sin, not the sinner, or whatever the fuck that whole philosophy deals with.
00:07:05.000I mean, my point is, I'm trying to knock down the walls between people and unified people, so.
00:07:11.000I think what you do good is you're a very positive role model in terms of hard work, in terms of your mental fortitude and how you approach things.
00:07:23.000And I think one of the things that's going on right now with social media and one of the reasons why people will attack Jay-Z for wearing leather shoes, even though they're looking to stand out.
00:07:38.000And there's always a lot of, fuck people who aren't this, or fuck people who aren't that.
00:07:42.000You should never say, fuck people, because people are just like you.
00:07:46.000They're human beings, and everybody's on a different path.
00:07:48.000Tell me why you believe the way you believe.
00:07:51.000Tell me why you think the way you think.
00:07:53.000And I'll tell you why I think the way I think, and I bet we'll find common ground.
00:07:56.000And that's what human beings need to do more with each other.
00:07:58.000The problem with social media is it gives them this unusual platform to get people to pay attention to their ideas.
00:08:04.000Maybe their ideas aren't even that good.
00:08:06.000Or maybe their ideas are very obvious.
00:08:08.000You know, like you're gonna point at someone, hey man, you know, you shouldn't say this word, hey man, you shouldn't do this thing, because we've decided that that's a bad thing, we've decided that that's culturally unacceptable anymore, and now everyone's gonna attack for that very reason.
00:08:21.000Instead of describing how they feel, what makes them feel when they say something, what makes them feel when they do things, what's going on in their head, so we can all relate on common ground, people just want to attack.
00:08:33.000And it's a big problem with what's going on.
00:09:51.000You know, it's just the most toxic environment in a lot of ways, and it's a shame because it could be used, and that's why I never post negative shit.
00:10:01.000I try to use the platform, you know, make lighter shit, not have a stick up your ass.
00:10:06.000There's too many people that do even the plant-based vegan thing, and everything's so fucking serious.
00:10:13.000I'm like, you might reach more people if you lightened up, you know, like Stripes.
00:10:48.000You know, call me a misogynistic scumbag and a fucking piece of shit and all this.
00:10:52.000So I just had, I just wrote, hey, any of you ladies that bought this book for their fellas and it helped them, please fucking holler at this fucking woman and tell us something.
00:11:48.000So this guy was doing pad work and I'm telling him, hey, you know, listen, man, you got a fight coming up, man.
00:11:54.000Get on the chlorophyll, get on the wheatgrass, get on, you know, eat as much recovery foods as you can that's going to fight inflammation.
00:12:01.000So some fucking mama Luke with fucking 1980s tiger stripe pants fucking...
00:12:07.000Yeah, fucking, you know, he just took everything out of context and then he's like, yeah, fucking people that don't eat meat are fucking pussies.
00:12:17.000And I'm like, yo, you got like 50 pounds on me, but if you want to put some head gear and get in the ring, I'll oblige you.
00:16:03.000But when I was locked up, I didn't quit almost to the end because toward the end of your sentence, they allow you to go home because they want to reintegrate you back with your family or whatever.
00:16:15.000And I never grew up with my mom, so they would send us home.
00:16:17.000So we would take the carton of cigarettes.
00:16:20.000And open it up very carefully, open up the cellophane carefully, slide the cellophane down and put joints inside the cigarette pack, slide it back up, glue it, close the carton of cigarettes, and that's how we would get the weed back from the visits.
00:16:34.000Because I wasn't smoking weed coming back out of nobody's ass.
00:16:47.000But that's, the book came, I had a lot of shit, a lot of demons inside of me from what happened to me.
00:16:55.000Me and my two brothers were, you know, pretty severely abused in all kinds of ways in this foster home, physically, mentally, sexually abused by the older people.
00:17:05.000Kids in the home it was fucked up and I never told anybody but that was always something no matter how much I lived as a monk for two years a Hare Krishna monk nothing cured that fucking anger that was inside of me that I had toward these people for what they did to me and the secret of like yo it's fucked up to say like yo you're this dude from the streets You had knife fights with Puerto Ricans.
00:17:30.000I got shot with a.22 in Forest Park selling angel dust.
00:17:41.000And nobody knew it because I never talked about it.
00:17:44.000And I took McKee's class and that was the turning point because I went up to him and I was writing a script at the time based on what happened to me in the foster home.
00:18:45.000And I mean, for years I would sit there, and it took me seven years to write the evolution of a Cro-Magnon.
00:18:51.000And I would get to that part of the story...
00:18:54.000And I would lose my shit and break down crying like fucking uncontrollably because of what happened to me and my brothers.
00:19:02.000So I just skipped over that part and I would never address it, but then He gave me the strength in a lot of ways to be able to say, hey man, he wrote in my book, so I have his book, and he wrote to me,
00:19:17.000he goes, John, always write the truth.
00:19:21.000And that's when I knew that that needed to come out in the book to cleanse myself.
00:19:26.000I've been two years on crack, 88 to 90 crack pills.
00:19:34.000You know, doing whatever, getting shot at with fucking AR-15s, robbing deals.
00:19:40.000I had TOS, or it was KOS at the time, kill on sight.
00:20:59.000There's a lot of dudes that eat meat that could kick the shit out of me.
00:21:03.000What I'm saying is if you continue to lead a sanitary lifestyle and you eat this fucked up food that's out there, that they're putting out there, that they're knowingly putting out there to fucking poison you because they're tied in with the pharmaceutical companies, it's a racket.
00:21:51.000Initially, my first interaction with Rastafarians, it was 1980. My ship was going to Jamaica.
00:22:00.000So when you go to any port and they take you down on the mess deck and they show everyone, you go here, you go there, they show you these films.
00:22:11.000So when we were getting ready to go to Jamaica, they're like, if you're going to use, and it's these military films from the 60s, if you're going to use...
00:22:48.000I was wearing Sex Pistols Destroy fucking t-shirts.
00:22:51.000They're looking at me like I was already into punk rock since the 70s.
00:22:56.000So I get off the ship and I meet this like 20-something year old fucking dread dude.
00:23:01.000And he's like, yeah, man, what you need?
00:23:03.000I said, listen, you know, I'm fucking smuggling some weed back.
00:23:06.000I want to get take because this other sailor told me, yo, you go in there and you get them to take you to the carving shops and they carve out the fucking statue and they pack the lamb's bread in there and then seal up the statue.
00:23:21.000And then I had a hookup with the officer, the guy who did the watch, and counted, so say, every fifth person you got searched.
00:23:29.000So I was always avoiding that because I would hit the dude off with some weed or whatever the fuck it was.
00:23:38.000I asked this kid, as soon as I got off the boat, like there was no hotels in Montego Bay, nothing.
00:23:44.000It was just you took the ship, the ship anchored out in the bay, and you took a boat in and landed at the dock, and it was just like some fucking ancient...
00:23:54.000Like, crazy shit that you would see back in the 1800s.
00:28:09.000So their manager, I sold him acid, but I got to talk with HR, and he started telling me about this PMA shit, and I told him, yeah, man, I fucking got out of jail and went into the Navy because I caught another case.
00:31:49.000And as I'm pulling out the gate in the seat, the fucking master at arms of my ship, the police, are right there walking across the street to fucking Nimitz Hall to get me.
00:32:40.000And what happened was they were playing a show a couple days later, and there's a big Puerto Rican gang that was right there that didn't want them hanging out, so they went in there one night, and they killed people.
00:32:52.000I'm not going to say the name of the fucking gang, because...
00:32:56.000For whatever, you know, I'm not trying to out them like that, but they had the largest heroin cocaine spot in America.
00:33:03.000The feds busted them, knocked down their building, the whole shit.
00:33:06.000Alphabet City was out of fucking control.
00:33:08.000So nobody, the Beastie Boys were there that night.
00:34:35.000So then I said I couldn't go down to Alphabet City at all.
00:34:39.000They were waiting there with fucking guns and bats and like we're gonna kill that dude.
00:34:43.000But because the bad brains were black they kind of Squashed it over, but I went up there to face them and they surrounded me like a fucking dude was like ready to fucking off me and Doc and Daryl, Doc's the guitar player,
00:34:59.000Daryl's the bass player, came running out.
00:35:11.000And the one dude's name was Crazy Eddie.
00:35:13.000And he got, I think he got murdered now, but he did Mad Time.
00:35:17.000And he just looked at me and it was that moment of the standoff where I didn't know what the fuck he was going to do, but he just goes...
00:35:25.000Out of all the white motherfuckers over here, you're the only one with heart.
00:35:29.000We ain't never gonna fuck with y'all again.
00:35:31.000Just don't hang out outside the storefront.
00:35:33.000Because there was gigs at 171A. That's where Bad Brains played, Beastie Boys.
00:35:38.000And then the Bad Brains let me move in.
00:35:42.000And then they recorded that first album, which MCA from the Bad Brains, greatest hardcore punk album of all time, the Raw cassette, the Lightning Bolt.
00:36:41.000No, no, like if you take coconut and you fucking shred it down so fine that the oil comes out of it, that's fine, but they don't do processed oils.
00:40:01.000I mean, I thought it was part of a ritualistic...
00:40:03.000Yeah, I mean, you have Shiva, the Shivites smoke the ganja and stuff like that, and I don't know, you know, they put the ashes of the crematorium on their bodies and stuff like that, but they, you know, the thing about, there's four principles in Hare Krishna, when you live as a Brahmachari monk, which I did, and it's no intoxication at all.
00:40:21.000No eating of meat, fish, eggs, none of that.
00:41:29.000So the health food store got you in there?
00:41:30.000Vinnie Signorelli, who's now the drummer for The Unsane, he still plays drums, he was in The Dots, he was in Turbo Hydramatics, a bunch of bands in New York, and he just started hitting me with questions.
00:41:46.000And then after giving me this book, he gave me this book called The Science of Self-Realization, and I read it, and I was like, dude, this yoga master, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, I was like, I gotta find out, where is this guy?
00:42:00.000And he said, oh, he left the planet in 77, but you could go to the temple and see the whole process.
00:42:07.000And I went, and they had this ceremony, and it's called Greeting of the Deities, and then the song that gets played, George Harrison, Plays bass on it.
00:42:16.000And I was like, yeah, it was from the Brahma Samhita.
00:42:50.000This line, this Sampradaya comes from the warrior class.
00:42:54.000And if you read any books on martial arts, they're going to tell you that martial arts originated in India.
00:43:00.000The original martial arts school were all in India and at one point Sankacharya chased all the Buddhists out of India and they fled across the Himalayas into China.
00:43:11.000So this is actual history and you can see where the martial arts spread out across the planet.
00:43:19.000You know, a lot of it, a lot of things that are around today originated in India.
00:43:26.000So to me, that really, I was always in, you know, I was a street fighter.
00:43:32.000I messed around even, you know, with some going to martial arts schools, always on the outskirts though.
00:43:39.000I even went and trained with Ron Van Cleef when he had his school in New York.
00:43:44.000Yeah, but he would always be training police forces, and I was the only white dude in the class, and it was all blacks and Puerto Ricans, and when it came time to spar, they beat the shit out of me.
00:43:54.000I was getting fucking wrecked by the black belts.
00:43:58.000There was no light sparring back then.
00:45:11.000Well, I'll tell you a lot of that spun into gang bonds, too, because a lot of the people that were the martial arts teachers, this one dude, JR, he's famous.
00:46:03.000Say names, but he outed somebody that tried to do some shit to him, and they blackballed him in Hollywood, and the guy said, you're never going to make another motherfucking movie, and he hasn't.
00:46:57.000First of all, my mother was raped twice.
00:47:00.000So if some dude is pushing his weight around on a female, I think that shit's fucked up.
00:47:09.000And then they're going to turn around and fucking fuck these people.
00:47:12.000I say fucking get them the fuck out of there.
00:47:15.000And I'm going to tell you a story because Julia Phillips and Michael Phillips, they fucking produced one of my favorite movies of all time, which was Taxi Driver.
00:47:52.000Crazy shit and two people broke their necks during the shooting so the movie is called it's called the beat Yeah, but the thing was she was one of the first people to put out and expose these fucking scumbags for doing that shit To people in Hollywood and exposed a lot of that in a book You'll never do lunch in this town again and when the book came out she was on the set for interview with a vampire and And they came and pulled her off the set,
00:48:19.000and she was fucking blackballed from fucking Hollywood.
00:48:22.000She never made any more fucking movies.
00:49:02.000I mean, the list is a mile long, and for everybody that comes forth, there's a million people that are sitting back going, I don't want to say anything because I don't want to take that shame on him.
00:49:13.000You have this rep and whatever the fuck, but that's all false ego, even all of that stuff.
00:49:18.000And then the person that I was with at the time said, this story is going to help a lot of people.
00:49:25.000By you coming forward and saying what happened to you and how you're dealing with it now.
00:49:31.000I got this new book, The PMA Effect, coming out.
00:49:35.000The whole shit is about healing people.
00:49:39.000I've helped thousands of people kick drugs, kick suicidal thoughts.
00:49:45.000And, you know, it's not that I'm like, I'm turning him into a vegan.
00:49:49.000It's like, dude, I'm gonna show you the system that worked for me.
00:49:53.000That's all I can do is tell you, I'm like the fucking mailman, you know?
00:49:57.000I'm just delivering the fucking mail to you.
00:50:00.000I didn't come up with it, but I'm showing you the yoga, the plant-based diet, the meditation, the training, constant fucking training.
00:50:09.000Well, through all the things you're doing, you're committed, and you're disciplined, and that's attractive to people, right?
00:50:16.000People look for people that are doing things that they wish they were doing.
00:50:19.000So they see someone, I mean, that's the whole cult of personality, right?
00:50:22.000They see you, they see you, you got this powerful personality, and you're positive, you're doing things, and people gravitate to that, and they want to be a part of that.
00:51:39.000So where is the false ego in thinking, I'm better than you because I eat a motherfucking vegetable and you eat a fucking piece of meat or whatever?
00:53:16.000All the fucking runoff of the CAFOs and the farms with the fucking toxic pesticides, all the shit that these guys are spraying, Roundup and everything else, and the nitrogen that's in the fucking shit when these lagoons that have 100,000 fucking gallons of pig shit...
00:53:36.000It all was draining into the Mississippi and then draining into the Gulf.
00:53:41.000So if you look at what's going on in North Carolina right now, because I was just there, motherfuckers can't even swim in the fucking rivers anymore.
00:53:50.000They just had to cancel the swim on...
00:53:52.000The Iron Man in Hamburg because of the green allergy and all the shit that's happening now because of all the runoff that's happening with the farms and everything.
00:54:03.000We're making this planet a fucking toxic wasteland.
00:54:07.000Well, what we've done with farms and it's gotten...
00:54:11.000We have giant groups of people that aren't growing anything.
00:54:14.000And then we've given people incentive to make as much profit as possible.
00:54:19.000And when they're trying to make as much profit as possible without ethics or morals in consideration or the impact on the environment, they set off a process in motion that we are many, many decades into right now.
00:54:30.000So to try to correct it now, we're just seeing the effects.
00:54:34.000And then on top of that, there's all these ag-gag laws.
00:54:36.000And the ag-gag I'm not participating in this.
00:54:48.000I have to figure out what I'm going to do.
00:54:49.000I'm either going to become a vegetarian or I'm going to become a hunter.
00:54:52.000I decided to become a hunter and that's how I get my meat.
00:54:55.000But when you see those videos, those are the videos that expose people to the realities and the horrors of factory farming.
00:55:06.000You go to prison for showing horrible, immoral acts that are done to these animals and the way they're treated and the way they're contained.
00:55:14.000We were talking yesterday about this video of a pig farm.
00:55:18.000There's this pig farm where these pigs are smashed into this place where they can't move at all.
00:55:51.000He runs this farm called Polyface Farms, and what he does is he has all these animals live like normal animals.
00:55:58.000Like the pigs, they're not in these cages.
00:56:01.000He has them roam free, and they set up these enormous portable fences.
00:56:06.000So they take the pigs, they roam in this one area like pigs naturally do, and then they move the fence to a different area, and they transport, you know, move the pigs over with it.
00:57:10.000Well, they have massive amounts of money, so they bribe politicians, and they use all of these lobbyists, and what they do is they get these laws passed where it's illegal to film them doing immoral shit.
00:57:36.000You don't think twice about what has to happen for that corn to become syrup and how much environmental damage has to take place.
00:57:44.000The world we're living in right now is just waking up to what has been in motion for many, many decades.
00:57:52.000I think what's really important, though, is that we're honest about health and that we're honest about the consequences of our actions in terms of our purchasing power, what we're doing with food.
00:58:03.000We've got to be honest about all of it.
00:58:05.000And one of the problems that happens with hunters or carnivores or even vegans or vegetarians is people only want to look at things that support Right.
00:58:15.000And with vegans, there's a lot of people out there that only want to look at things that support vegan positions in terms of health.
00:58:22.000And this becomes a real problem because they start using studies that are very shaky, they start adding things to documentaries that aren't necessarily true or proven, and it becomes propaganda.
00:59:16.000Who are the hospitals filled with that are having procedures for bypass?
00:59:21.000Who are the procedures being done for people removing their limbs for diabetes?
00:59:26.000It's the people that are eating this toxic diet that Americans, the standard American diet and what people have become accustomed to eating, rolling up and even these carnivore people.
01:00:11.000Because the methadone down the road is going to take even a longer toll.
01:00:16.000And I've seen people that are doing methadone for 20-30 years, and that's why I love the analogy, because the long-term studies of those diets do not exist right now.
01:00:27.000No, there's no long-term studies for the carnivores.
01:00:29.000But if you look at the blue zones around the planet of the people who were the most centurions and the people that lived the longest, they have three things in common, okay?
01:00:38.000And there's blue zones in Japan, Costa Rica, Greece, Iran, United States.
01:00:47.000And then California, and it's the Adventists, the seven-day Adventists.
01:00:52.000So the three things that they have most in common with the people that live the longest, number one, they have a meditation spiritual practice.
01:00:59.000They do something every day for PMA, for positive mental attitude.
01:01:04.000Whatever their higher power is, they do that every day.
01:01:10.000They're working, they work in the farm, they're exercising.
01:01:13.000Number three, they eat primarily a plant-based diet.
01:01:17.000They may have a piece of fish in Japan or whatever, or a piece of meat once in a while, but primarily The Adventist study was actually the best one because it was all from different people with different ethnic backgrounds.
01:01:33.000And the one thing that they had in common, the seven-day Adventists don't eat meat.
01:01:37.000And that's my point with the whole thing.
01:01:42.000You know, when it comes down to diet, I just see what worked for me, and I try to relay that to people, and not be like, my way's the only way, and this and that, because people are doing other things in their way.
01:01:59.000There's raw foodists, there's all these different people, and the problem is, with the false ego and the human being, everybody wants to think That the glass is full, don't try to tell me shit, I know it all.
01:03:27.000If you say an organic, whole food, plant-based diet, that's what I roll with.
01:03:32.000I don't fucking say I... A good point.
01:03:34.000A vegan diet could mean anything, but when you say whole food, foods in their original source, organic, no pesticides, whole food, plant-based diet, that's what I roll with.
01:04:15.000I think it might have been CNN online or something.
01:04:18.000They posted an article that said the fruits and vegetables from 40 years ago were 10 times more nutritious than the way they're being grown today because, like you said, rows and rows and rows.
01:05:05.000I'm not a farmer, composting, but I have a friend that is an organic farmer, and his name is Keith, and he farms up in New Hampshire, and he knows all about crop rotation.
01:05:55.000But, you know, when he came on and the shit that he was talking, I was just like, the fucking GMO crops...
01:06:03.00080% of the GMO crop is being fed to animals for fucking slaughter.
01:06:08.000What he called the stupid vegans are not the ones that are eating that shit.
01:06:13.000Most of the crops that are genetically modified because you have these corporations, McDonald's, every one of these corporations, they want every fucking piece of meat to taste the same.
01:06:23.000They want every fucking french fried potato to be the same.
01:06:27.000So the only way they can control it...
01:06:29.000Is the control of the genetic markers.
01:06:32.000So that's why they're using a majority of the genetically modified grains.
01:06:39.000And Monsanto, you know, who just got bought out by Bayer, and they're changing the name because Monsanto has such a big rep.
01:06:48.000If you don't know it, Bayer just bought them.
01:06:51.000Now, do you know the history of Bayer?
01:07:13.000The reason why we can grow the kind of crops that we have today is because of Fritz Haber.
01:07:17.000They say that 50% of the nitrogen in most people's DNA comes from the Haber method.
01:07:23.000He also created Zyklon A. Zyklon A Zyklon B gas was the Nazis.
01:07:29.000Well, he created Zyklon A and they added this smell to it so that you could smell this toxic gas so you would know it when it was coming so you can get out of the way.
01:07:36.000The Nazis switched it to Zyklon B. Fritz Haber was actually a Jew and they took his invention and cut out the smell portion of it so that they could gas Jews with it.
01:08:06.000He was one of the first people that implemented a gassing program where they used it to gas the Allied troops in World War I. That was Haber.
01:08:50.000Because they want these things to be durable so they can throw them in a bus, or a truck rather, and travel across the country and sell them somewhere else.
01:08:56.000Well, here's the thing, and I know what they do.
01:08:58.000They take the DNA of a flounder and inject it in a tomato so it can resist the fraud.
01:09:16.000Well, one thing is if you eat plants, plants absorb, like they've found salmon DNA in some plants because plants absorb the fish that people use for fertilizer.
01:11:59.000When they created it, one of the things, one of the reasons why they were able to implement it, they said it doesn't kill people, it kills plants and it kills bacteria.
01:13:35.000Yeah, I mean gut biome is gigantic you know to the point where people make memes joking around about me saying gut biome because I say it so much.
01:13:43.000And you know the other reason that I was I didn't know where this whole conversation would go because I have respect for you as a martial artist like I said I know Brian since the 80s and you know he always talked about you but Rich Roll wrote you and said that I was up at his house and heard that I was coming on a podcast and And you responded to him in a text message and said,
01:14:06.000yeah, it's so fucking toxic what's going on.
01:14:09.000Like, I just want to sit down with him.
01:14:13.000You know, and people, look, there's a lot of people that I'm friends with that have all sorts of, they agree with things that I don't agree with.
01:14:20.000They have ideas that I don't agree with.
01:14:22.000I mean, you're allowed to have varying opinions.
01:14:24.000That's what human beings are all about.
01:14:26.000We're supposed to be able to communicate our ideas, but you're not my enemy if you eat plants.
01:15:06.000Like you said, it's identity politics and I don't roll with that because in my line of work and what I'm doing, which is getting people out of some really dark fucking shit in their lives, like this documentary I'm doing now called 30 to Life...
01:15:21.000The shit that these fucking inmates have been through and the you know I met one guy he did 50 fucking years man and he's 90 years old and his story is he's in Amity Foundation and his story is out now he's in this he just got paroled after 50 years I got a picture of him in my fucking phone and listen to his story before you judge a motherfucker because they got locked up and He served in World War II in the army.
01:16:11.000And he came back and went onto the streets with PTSD. They didn't even know what the fuck PTSD was back then when he was going through it.
01:16:19.000And some shit happened, which I did not...
01:16:23.000He got double life, so obviously something really bad happened, and I don't know the circumstances, but he's 90 fucking years old right now, and he survived the riots in Folsom.
01:17:57.000Yeah, he served in both wars, honorably, PTSD, and I think, you know, he said people fucked with him on the streets.
01:18:07.000So what is he doing with his life now?
01:18:10.000He's in this program, so they get paroled to this program called Amity Foundation, and they serve out their sentence and try to reintegrate them.
01:19:06.000Because, you know, I had to be really careful because, you know, I used to take care of my business with the right hand and then, like, you know...
01:19:15.000A bull shark took his arm and leg and now he's on the Discovery Channel Shark Week and he fights for ocean conservation because if you kill the lead predator in the oceans and the culling that's going on...
01:19:31.000I'm gonna tell you right now the whole vegan shit is becoming this shit for rich fucking people and the people that really need it are the ones they can't afford $25 to go to a veg fest and all this shit it's becoming this pompous fucking shit and the food and you'd go to try to have a fucking meal and it's like fucking 50 bucks and just in fucking appetizers and the people that really need it are not getting access to this and I saw 13th the documentary About the
01:21:35.000They're doing meditation, drum circles, American Indian chants.
01:21:39.000So much like when you were young and your life was filled with turmoil and chaos, you found the Hare Krishnas, you found this discipline in becoming a monk and sticking to this plant-based whole foods diet.
01:24:25.000My friend Aaron Drogoszewski runs recovery in New York City, so I'm all about the CVAC pod and the NuCalm, which provides in 30 minutes you get three hours of restorative sleep.
01:24:59.000And, you know, I just been on this and I went into crunch because they were offering a special thing and he was he led the boxing and he taught kickboxing and worked with all the five points guys would all be in, you know, five points Muay Thai.
01:25:13.000So, yeah, before that, they were all up in crunch, you know, training.
01:25:18.000Then they opened up the school, but he was there.
01:25:20.000And I said, yo, I want to do this Ironman.
01:25:22.000He started training me from day one to do my first race.
01:25:27.000I started with him in 2010. I did my first race, 2012, New York Ironman.
01:25:32.000So then his whole journey, now they open up this place to recover.
01:25:36.000It's right up the block from Henzo Gracie's on 30th Street.
01:25:40.000So they have the CVAC pod, which takes you to elevation.
01:25:43.000It increases your VO2 max by like 5.8%.
01:25:47.000And I think doping, doing the EPO and everything, only gives you 3%.
01:28:22.000Step two for NuCalm is to use a subsensory microcurrent to catalyze the effectiveness of the NuCalm supplementation so you take pills with it, too.
01:29:22.000You go in this thing, and it's like, you have to work up, because you can't just go to level five, and your fucking shit will just bug the fuck out.
01:29:33.000So I worked all the way up to level five.
01:29:36.000How long did it take you to work up to it?
01:29:40.000But what I really noticed was with my running, because I mark my thresholds and everything, so every run when I was training for the last race, I just did Chattanooga.
01:34:03.000I might run the trail, the bridal trail in Central Park if I can, or run around the reservoir, but mostly my shit is all in the city and the hokers just fucking...
01:36:06.000Every morning I sit down to write my screenplay or my next book, I read his shit.
01:36:13.000And the Four Agreements I'm big into too.
01:36:17.000I went to actually, somebody got me tickets to see Miguel speak, Don Miguel, and it was a life-changing encounter for me, the Four Agreements.
01:36:42.000The assumption shit is fucking crazy, man.
01:36:45.000And I think if everybody just slowed down and read some literature on some of these teachers that, you know, humanity could do so much better...
01:36:58.000And what he does say about resistance is so powerful because there is something that keeps you from doing things that you know you're supposed to do.
01:37:06.000And when you do them, you feel so much better.
01:38:02.000No, but I remember how I used to feel when I would come out of those yoga classes in 81. I would feel like I could jump over a fucking building.
01:38:18.000And it could be something like, oh, I made an agreement with myself to fucking straighten out the papers on my desk and go through all this shit.
01:38:25.000And if I don't do it, it puts me in the worst fucking mood.
01:38:46.000That's a good philosophy to live by and, you know, to have something that's been fucking with you, some things you're putting off, whether it's getting back into yoga or cleaning up your diet or quitting smoking or whatever it is.
01:38:57.000Having that thing over your head where you know you haven't taken care of it makes you think less of yourself.
01:39:03.000Yeah, and that's one of the things I tell everybody I work with, because, I mean, literally today, and I'm not bullshitting, I don't try to be like, you know, I don't even say I'm some kind of teacher, whatever.
01:39:16.000I just pass the info to these motherfuckers.
01:39:18.000Today, I had fucking four people come up to me on the street.
01:39:21.000Yo, heard you on Rich Roll, fucking saw you on Vice, dude, love what you're doing.
01:39:46.000You know, you could do anything, you know, you apply yourself to and that's really, you know, my whole thing in life is to just, you know, and that's what Prabhupada did.
01:39:56.000Prabhupada came to America in his 70s aboard the Jaladutra, crossed two oceans, had two heart attacks, almost passed away.
01:40:04.000But his teacher in India said to go to America At 70 years old, with $7,000 in case of Bhagavatams, and he came to America, to the Lower East Side, to the Bowery.
01:40:31.000He didn't even have, he brought the original texts that have been passed down from one teacher to the next to the next to the next in India.
01:40:39.000And they said, his teacher Bhakti Siddhanta said, you need to write these books in English for the world, to help the world.
01:40:47.000So he didn't, all the people in India were like, Swamiji, you know, you are at the end of your life.
01:41:25.000And they saw the humility of him and he just...
01:41:28.000And when I learned his story, there's a great documentary on him called Your Ever Well-Wisher on YouTube.
01:41:34.000And it's about his life and how he came...
01:41:36.000And, you know, Acharya means one who leads by example.
01:41:41.000It's not what and I've learned this just by these big mouths that are out there that talk so much shit It ain't what the fuck you say.
01:41:47.000It's what you do It's about your action and your words and how you interact with other people and how you see other people even these fucking so-called celebrities It's when the cameras ain't on how do you treat people, right?
01:42:00.000You know what the fuck is the real core of your existence?
01:42:05.000When I saw Prabhupada and read all this stuff on him and then started taking up the process, it just changed my life for the better.
01:42:21.000Well, by you saying that, it's very enticing for people, right?
01:42:25.000Like, they go, I want to do what he's doing.
01:42:26.000I want to feel better like he's feeling better.
01:42:29.000That's what's amazing about having someone who's a great role model.
01:42:35.000Meaning, you might not even think of yourself as a role model, but...
01:42:38.000By living your life by example, by doing things that you should do, by being healthy, by being active and enthusiastic.
01:42:44.000But you've got passion about what you're doing, about your music, about pushing yourself, about your books, about the exercise.
01:42:52.000And when you do that, People that don't have purpose in their life, they see that and they go, that's what I'm missing.
01:42:57.000I'm missing, because we're missing so many things in this life.
01:42:59.000But one of the things that people are missing is role models.
01:43:02.000They're missing someone who they can look up to and go, oh, this is the way to do it.
01:43:06.000And when you emulate their lifestyle and start thinking the way they think and using their lessons and applying them to your own life, you start seeing benefits.
01:43:14.000And then that passes down to other people who see you.
01:43:50.000Are praised by every single fucking musician today.
01:43:53.000If you talk Doc, Daryl, Earl, and Gary, Dr. No, every motherfucking musician out there will be like, those dudes are the fucking Dons, because they study music.
01:44:03.000They were into jazz, and they were into fucking Return to Forever, and John McLaughlin, Mahavishnu.
01:46:07.000I showed up with a $4,000 carbon fiber frame and I had a black water bottle and all the weed bags was in the two water bottles so it just looked like I was a cyclist out on a ride.
01:50:25.000I mean, you've turned a terrible situation and terrible circumstances into a way that you've created now where you're inspiring people all the time.
01:50:36.000I mean, just the impact that you have.
01:50:39.000I think one of the things that we were talking about earlier about all the negativity that people have online, I think part of the problem with that is I don't think people totally understand communication.
01:50:49.000I think what we're handed is these tools to distribute our thoughts and our information, and we're trying to get rudimentary reactions.
01:50:57.000And we're not understanding that these reactions don't just stop with the person that we're interacting with.
01:51:04.000They affect ourselves, because they affect how we feel about ourselves.
01:51:07.000If you write some petty shit about someone, you don't really respect yourself.
01:51:12.000If you write some nasty, snarky, petty shit about someone, And you're insulting for no reason.
01:51:18.000You know you're insulting for no reason and you feel it yourself.
01:51:21.000You don't have great self-respect for yourself for that.
01:51:24.000And then on top of that, that person that you hurt their feelings, they might perhaps interact with other people negatively because of that as well.
01:51:48.000Because we're not thinking about it in a comprehensive, wide-scale look.
01:51:53.000We're thinking about it in terms of, that is annoying to me, so I'm going to fuck that guy's world up by saying shitty things about him and his fat, stupid face and whatever you want to say about him and insult them.
01:52:03.000I'm gonna tell you what a lot of the problem is, too, and I see it all the time.
01:52:08.000We're losing the art of even having a conversation between human beings because this is what everybody does.
01:52:16.000When you see them going down the motherfucking street, and yo, New York is still motherfucking dangerous, and now all these motherfucking texting zombies that come out of the club and they're fucking...
01:53:12.000So the whole rule was they had to be mindful the entire time that they were at this thing.
01:53:17.000They had no cell phone, no TV, no nothing.
01:53:20.000And they had to be mindful when they ate, mindful when they took a shower, mindful when they walked down the street, remaining mindful during conversations, respecting other people.
01:53:30.000And, like, it was the CEO of fucking Google and all these big companies were there.
01:53:38.000And what they learned at this retreat for the 10 days or whatever that they were there a week, it was so powerful that they took that and implemented that in their companies.
01:53:49.000And now Google, they make everybody sit down in a fucking auditorium before they start their day up there in Silicon Valley or wherever the fuck they are.
01:53:59.000And they have to just sit there for 10 minutes and be mindful.
01:54:05.000And that's something that's becoming a lost part of humanity because the internet and all of this shit, it's like people are losing touch with themselves and with each other.
01:55:01.000I have to have my coat of armor, which I say my sword of fucking PMA and my coat of armor, which is everything I do every day, but I'm not beyond the shit I'm trying to...
01:55:13.000So, you know, why the fuck do I want to go hang out with...
01:56:02.000And right now, you just have a motherfucking bunch of people talking shit instead of trying to be the example and try to live it and do it.
01:56:11.000There are a ton of people out there that's crushing it.
01:56:14.000And staying positive and doing, you know, getting off drugs, getting off alcohol.
01:56:19.000Like, even the people in this program, man, you don't even know the shit that these guys have been through.
01:56:41.000And I'm gonna tell you, and the other reason I got involved is because my uncle, back in the day, worked at Chino Prison.
01:56:49.000In the 70s and 80s, he was like the assistant warden or something in Chino.
01:56:54.000Now, Chino, if you know the prison system, what they call that here in California is gladiator school.
01:56:59.000But there's a documentary about this guy, and he's a former Navy SEAL, and he went in there.
01:57:05.000And the documentary is called Salvaged Lives.
01:57:07.000And he went in there and taught these guys.
01:57:10.000He put them through like a little bud's ding, squirted them with holes, trained them fucking hard as hell, taught them every aspect of commercial diving.
01:57:18.000And when they got released, he got them jobs on oil rigs and all this stuff, making six figures.
01:57:24.000And the guys who were working for these oil companies, they said, these are the most skilled fucking people that we've ever had come to work for these companies.
01:57:34.000So between trying to set a good example and seeing the people before me that's done it and wanting to reach out and help people and seeing, and my uncle telling me about this guy and then seeing the documentary when it came on, I was just like, I gotta try to do something to turn the tide and having a platform like Netflix or whoever's gonna pick up this documentary,
01:58:39.000We're warehousing bodies, man, and they violate them.
01:58:41.000One dude got violated for smoking a cigarette in the facility, and they sent him back to serve the rest of his fucking sentence.
01:58:48.000It's crazy, especially out here in California.
01:58:52.000California and Texas and Florida, man, it's fucking crazy stuff.
01:58:58.000And look, I look back to the whole situation that went down in the 80s, because I really try to do research, and the whole thing that went down, you had Nancy fucking Reagan saying, just say no.
01:59:11.000And you know what George Bush Sr. was doing to fund all his operations in South America?
01:59:53.000And there was dudes getting busted with quarter pounds of fucking coke, but that's the white man's, and they would get fucking a slap on the wrist.
02:00:01.000These dudes would go away for 10 years.
02:00:03.000So they put the coke in the neighborhoods, they funded all their operations in South America, And then they passed draconian drug laws, and this was the Clintons.
02:00:13.000I was also friends with Michael Rupert.
02:00:15.000Michael Rupert was the guy who exposed all that.
02:00:17.000Do you remember they had those town hall meetings with the DEA and the CIA? And Michael Rupert, he was a homicide detective for the Los Angeles Police Department.
02:00:33.000And he went in front of this big meeting on CNN, and he explained it to everyone.
02:00:41.000Was it C-SPAN or CNN? I don't remember, but it was on television.
02:00:44.000And he explained that he busted the CIA selling drugs in the inner city, and that he has documents that can prove there's a detailed history of them selling drugs, then using those profits overseas.
02:00:56.000There was a documentary about it that came out and it was these big, the fucking big drug dudes in LA said, yeah, these guys would just show up with fucking van loads of fucking coke.
02:01:10.000Did you ever see that video of him talking in front of those people?
02:01:12.000See if you find that video, because it's a fucking crazy eye-opening video.
02:01:16.000But they're having this town hall meeting.
02:02:23.000That is the most evil thing, that you can make money, and therefore you're incentivized to make drug laws more strict so you can get more people in prison so you generate more income.
02:02:46.000He used to do a Buddhist ministry in the prisons and change these people's lives.
02:02:52.000And, you know, they came out in this magazine called Satcha and I read this article.
02:02:57.000So Satcha in Sanskrit means the mode of goodness.
02:03:01.000So that's what this magazine was called.
02:03:03.000And I read this article about these inmates that he was working with and one of them said he was never getting out.
02:03:09.000He's, you know, life without the possibility.
02:03:12.000And he said, if I had access to the information of what I've learned through this program, I wouldn't be where I'm at.
02:03:18.000So then that planted the seed in me and then just seeing what the whole shit's turned into, how the people that really need the food deserts and everything that's going on in this country and the research I've done and everything I've been talking about and fighting for change by taking action against the fucked up shit and then 13th coming out and just lit another fire under me.
02:03:42.000I'm like, man, you know, let's fucking like help these people, man.
02:03:47.000But yeah, I knew about all that coke shit back in the fucking day and at first I was like, yo, because Congress wouldn't cut a check to him to do his dirty fucking shit down in South America.
02:04:00.000We got our hands in wars all over this fucking, trying to take down governments all over this fucking planet.
02:04:16.000But that guy was selling drugs and he was going to South America and bringing them over and dropping them off in Arkansas while Clinton was the governor.
02:04:50.000She's a fascinating character because people want to think of her as being this super progressive person because she's a woman and because she's a Democrat.
02:04:58.000She didn't even believe in gay marriage until 2013. She talked shit.
02:05:02.000I saw videos of her talking shit against gay marriage and like, you know...
02:05:09.000Marriage should be the unity of a man and a woman.
02:05:27.000Well, you remember when Bernie Sanders was trying to get her to release the transcripts of those speeches that she gave in front of the bankers?
02:06:17.000It shouldn't be you're trying to appeal to social justice warriors or radical progressives or radical conservatives or right-wing Christian fundamentalists.
02:06:27.000It should be you're making sense because you understand law and fairness and ethics and morals and values, and you understand with an objective sense and an educated sense of how to establish a quality Community of human beings,
02:06:43.000a civilization in which people can prosper, in which laws are fair, and in which we establish what do we find necessary, what do we find important, what's imperative, education, community,
02:06:58.000all these different values, and enforce those.
02:07:02.000It's somehow or another figure out a way to make this world a better place than what it is now.
02:07:10.000What you get is some person who says they're going to do all kinds of shit until they get in there, and they very rarely do.
02:07:15.000Did you see the A-B shit that they just put up for all of fucking Trump, like the shitty promise on the campaign, and now what he's actually doing?
02:07:45.000Representative government was a great idea when you had to get on a fucking horse and take your ass to Washington in order to place your votes.
02:08:28.000Some understanding of what this system is.
02:08:30.000Instead, you know, look, I'm not a giant supporter of any mainstream media, whether it's right-wing or left-wing, but there's something fucked up about these people from CNN going to these Trump rallies, and you've got hundreds of people giving them the finger, fuck you,
02:08:46.000you're fake news, fuck you, and they've got American flag t-shirts on.
02:09:44.000I'll tell you something, because I'm a native New Yorker and I have friends that are in the unions and they built fucking...
02:09:50.000Trump burned a lot of fucking people and got rid of fucking skilled labor and skilled fucking union people and burned union people and hired illegals to do the fucking work in his fucking building.
02:10:58.000If you watch the conversation between James Comey, when James Comey testified about what he did and what they found with the Hillary Clinton emails, and then her version of it, she's just a straight liar.
02:11:35.000She was pulling all the strings, and she had all the favors that she was pulling in, and she had a shit ton of money behind her, and they were completely arrogant, and all the liberal elite and the media thought there was no chance that she was going to lose.
02:11:47.000She's 95% shoo-in to win the presidency, and she walked around like she was 95%.
02:14:39.000When you're involved with billion-dollar deals with giant corporations, and they're also tied into the military-industrial complex, who, by the way, kill innocents all the time and write it off.
02:14:49.000Like, all this shit that happened with drones, what's the number?
02:14:52.000It's like in the high 80s or 90% innocent people killed by drones.
02:15:20.000But I read this thing that most of the most of the glyphosate that's being put out there is by people on their fucking own homes They don't know any better they spray roundup It's you know I have a friend who had bone cancer and he lived near a golf course and they put so many Pesticides in the golf course that it got into the groundwater right and he said all these people in his neighborhood got cancer and He has a fake femur bone.
02:15:47.000One of his femur bones, it's a metal bone.
02:16:38.000And history will not judge them kindly.
02:16:41.000When they step back and think about what they actually did, I mean, it's in the 1960s, it's our parents' generation, and the way we look at it, it's almost like this unfortunate thing that happened, but I almost think we're too close to it to recognize how horrific it is that the soldiers who were putting their lives on the line in their thought to defend our freedom over in America were getting poisoned.
02:17:25.000And then all the fucking troops are coming back having fucking kids with deformities and getting cancer and all this shit turned down for their benefits.
02:17:34.000Yeah, they denied it was even an issue.
02:17:40.000They're distantly removed from it the same way someone's distantly removed from factory farming if they buy a burger at a restaurant or a burger at a fast food joint.
02:17:50.000They're not thinking about a pig that's in that can that makes that McRib.
02:19:22.000And this was an opportunity for them to take advantage of this call for action.
02:19:26.000And even though we're going against someone that had nothing to do with the attacks on September 11th, people felt like something was happening.
02:20:12.000But what's great about the movie is it shows how they just started force-feeding the information out there to create this fucking feverish, kill, kill, kill fucking mentality that the Americans...
02:20:27.000Well, this is the same thing you're seeing with these people screaming at Jim Acosta.
02:20:31.000You can manipulate dummies' mindsets, and this is what they do.
02:20:35.000I mean, it's an easy way to pull the strings of the most easily led.
02:20:38.000You gotta think, who's going to these rallies in the first place?
02:20:42.000Most of these people that are going to these, like, Trump rallies or something like that, they're morons.
02:20:47.000That's why they're going to these things.
02:20:49.000Even if you're a Trump supporter, If you're an intelligent Trump supporter, which I do believe is possible, you're a person who's not going to go to a rally.
02:22:17.000They're trying to tell you, look what's in the left hand, but what the real shit is in the right hand.
02:22:21.000So by doing all this shit and causing all these problems, you're not going to go back and look at the shit that he's pushing through, his agendas.
02:22:29.000He just cut taxes to the fucking richest people, the billionaires and corporations, which he said he wasn't going to do.
02:22:50.000When the fuck, how did we become united as a country?
02:22:54.000Like, I think a lot of these countries right now who may pose a threat or whatever, they're seeing what the fuck's going on and they're like, yo, this country's never been more fucking divided.
02:23:06.000It's the divided states of America, not the United States of America.
02:23:11.000Well, what he's doing with these rallies is he's getting people excited about being a part of a team, and a team that's winning.
02:23:18.000You know, like, we're the team that's kicking ass, and this is team fake news over there.
02:23:28.000And especially it doesn't have to make sense with the people that are going to these rallies, because they're not smart people in the first place.
02:23:35.000But that's the same thing with people that would go to the rallies for Hillary Clinton or people that go to the rallies for almost all these people.
02:23:49.000And that was when fucking Hillary Clinton was losing and the faces of the crying people who were like fucking losing their shit when Trump won.
02:24:02.000I'm sorry, but like, fucking dude, if that's the fucking truth of your existence that you put every fucking ounce of your shit into this fucking corrupt ass politician, whether it's fucking Hillary Clinton or fucking Bernie Sanders or any of them.
02:25:09.000But there was also, like, a lot of the women that were really upset were like, this guy was in that video saying, you take girls and grab them by the pussy.
02:25:17.000And so they felt like this was going to give men a license to be sexually abusive.
02:25:21.000And I think that, in a lot of ways, is what started the ball rolling with the Me Too movement.
02:25:28.000It wasn't just the exposing of monsters like Bill Cosby, but it was also the fact that you're dealing with this guy who gets in the White House that's clearly not what you want.
02:25:40.000If it's a man, you want a man who respects women, who's a statesman, who's a person who has worked their life to get to that position.
02:25:49.000Not a person who did it as an afterthought once they were already famous.
02:25:52.000See, like, the difference between a guy like Obama, like Obama's probably, he's probably measured his words ever since he was in college because he was hoping one day he would be president.
02:26:01.000Whereas a guy like Donald Trump's just been banging hoes and fucking flying around with a jet with his name on it since the 80s.
02:26:39.000They call it Trump derangement syndrome now because people are literally, they're so angry that he is in power and there's nothing they can do about it.
02:26:47.000But the problem is that anger and that going derange, that empowers the people that support him.
02:28:15.000You have 300 people, one person running shit, you're gonna have disagreements.
02:28:18.000You're gonna have people that are upset that this one person gets to dictate for the next four to eight years the path of everyone in this group and your financial future, your healthcare, all these, how much taxes you pay, all depending on what dipshit wins the popularity contest?
02:28:39.000But the problem with letting everybody vote too is that people are really easily manipulated and they're really undereducated.
02:28:46.000They don't have any incentive to pay attention to the real issues and what's at stake and what the consequences of each vote are.
02:28:53.000They just vote with whatever feels good and they're busy.
02:28:57.000And people are tired because they're eating shitty food, and they're not exercising, and they're working all day in a job that sucks, and they come home, and their wife's bitching at them, and they're on antidepressants and pills, and their kids are all fucked up, and they don't have the time.
02:29:09.000They don't have the time, and they don't have the incentive to be enlightened.
02:29:13.000They don't have the incentive to have an objective, enlightened approach to how you handle the future of our society and what our children are going to be left with.
02:29:22.000Well, that's why it's the genius of these commercials.
02:29:27.000I mean, I can't even watch TV when it's election time because it's just like one dude after the next shitting on each other or this person saying something about that.
02:32:31.000Well, he had something to do with passing it.
02:32:33.000Yeah, he had something to do with ignoring evidence.
02:32:35.000But see, someone told me that the amount of...
02:32:40.000The chemicals they had to give to rats, the amount of aspartame they had to give to rats to kill them or to give them cancer was very high.
02:33:16.000How does a drug get approved by the FDA? And then they turn around and fucking they pull it and people are dying and they settle for pennies on the dollar.
02:35:26.000On January 21st, 1981, the day after Ronald Reagan's inauguration, C-A-R-L-E reapplied to the FDA for approval to use aspartame and food sweetener, and Reagan's new FDA commissioner, Arthur Hayes Hall Jr.,
02:35:43.000appointed a five-person scientific commission to review the Board of Inquiry decision It became clear the panel would uphold the ban by a 3-2 decision, but then Hull then installed a sixth member on the commission, and the vote became deadlocked.
02:35:59.000He then personally broke the tie in Aspartame's favor.
02:38:16.000If you're exerting yourself very strenuously, you could use some of that glucose and it's okay.
02:38:22.000But for the average person that goes to a fucking 7-Eleven and gets a big gulp and is downing 64 ounces of Coca-Cola, that is a crazy amount of sugar for your body to get in one serving.
02:38:33.000Your body doesn't know what to do with that shit, so it stores it as fat.
02:38:37.000I forget how many tablespoons of sugar they said is in one of them fucking big gulps.
02:38:44.000Dude, they did a thing where they showed all the various sizes of soda next to a packet of the sugar, and you see the actual volume of sugar.
02:39:26.000Yeah, I mean, and then on top of that, here's one of the problems with people consuming that kind of stuff, and then on top of it, saturated fat.
02:39:36.000See, there's studies now that are showing that cholesterol and saturated fat are healthy for your diet and healthy for your body unless...
02:39:45.000You're consuming carbohydrates and refined sugars.
02:39:48.000Because when you're doing that, then your body's not burning fat.
02:39:53.000And on top of that, you're pouring massive amounts of sugar in there.
02:39:56.000So you're getting hardened into the arteries and clogging into the arteries.
02:39:59.000And people think that they're conflating and confusing all this and thinking, well, this is because you're eating cholesterol and saturated fat.
02:40:26.000When you cook meat and then combine it with alcohol and the rest of the stuff, it creates a chemical reaction in the body that then causes problems for you health-wise in your immune system and gut health and everything else.
02:40:40.000Yeah, there's a ton of problems with people's bodies, and you could trace it back to a host of different things.
02:40:48.000You could trace it back to pesticides.
02:40:51.000You could trace it back to a lack of minerals.
02:40:53.000You could trace it back to excess sugar.
02:40:55.000You could trace it back to processed vegetable oils.
02:40:57.000You could trace it back to sedentary life.
02:41:00.000There's so many different things that are a factor in people's health issues.
02:41:05.000But one of the problems with ideologies, whether it's this carnivore diet ideology or vegan diet ideology, is people want to look at one thing.
02:41:14.000There's one thing that's wrong, and you fix this thing, and if you just do this one thing, you're going to be healthy.
02:41:28.000Or quoting studies that were funded by the same companies that are making money off of selling foods that are high in saturated fats or cholesterol or are...
02:42:44.000They had him spraying fucking cancer-causing fucking chemicals on this shit.
02:42:51.000Just when you see those guys are the same guys that were trying to say that cigarettes are not addictive, and the same people that were dismissing climate change, you're like...
02:43:23.000Containing DDT as the active insecticide.
02:43:27.000Genuine cedar wood made into wallpaper.
02:43:31.000So these people made DDT closet wallpaper with genuine cedar wood.
02:43:38.000Well, the other thing is, even the chemicals that they put in the furniture, there's a big thing now to remove because it's calming the fucking children.
02:43:45.000Do you know that rugs and furniture actually will release chemicals into the air in your house?
02:44:05.000Kills insects, mosquitoes, flies, ants, and you.
02:44:10.000You know, one of the biggest ways that toxins enter the body is not by walking around the streets of LA or New York and breathing in the pollution.
02:44:22.000The amount of chemicals that are in the fucking home, and they talk about that in Merchants of Doubt.
02:44:28.000The chemicals in the furniture, the chemicals in the clothes, the chemicals in the fucking diapers, the chemicals in everything, in the plastic...
02:44:37.000You're bombarding your fucking child with fucking dozens and dozens of chemicals every fucking day.
02:44:44.000And while that child's immune system is developing, and then you're feeding it pesticides, you're feeding it this fucking animal that's been tortured its whole life and fed fucking steroids and hormones.
02:44:56.000And you're wondering why these kids are coming out.
02:45:01.000When they're getting into their teens, it's because all of that shit's taking a toll, not just physically, but psychologically.
02:45:13.000There's so much other shit they're doing, too, to the food, putting...
02:45:18.000There's an epicyte, you know, that they put in the corn and the soy now, and it's fucking...
02:45:23.000It was done by this company in LA, and they were...
02:45:27.000Down in California somewhere, epicyte, E-P-I-C-Y-T-E. And it fucks with the sexual reproduction organs of fetuses and children and all kinds of shit.
02:45:38.000They're conducting, like, fucking mad science on human beings right now.
02:46:02.000It's closed off from everywhere else, so there's no other factors.
02:46:05.000So they go and they spray motherfucking chemtrails in the air that come down onto the fucking ground and they can, for instance, and I... Wait a minute.
02:46:19.000So they aerosol spray them with some sort of pesticide?
02:46:24.000Yeah, and they do aluminum, barium, strontium.
02:46:27.000Now, I'm going to tell you, I have friends that actually are doing this.
02:46:31.000They were organic farmers and had to give up their farm.
02:46:34.000And what they do is they're making the soil so acidic, the pH, that nothing will grow except for genetically modified seeds that have been Genetically modified to resist aluminum and resist all this other stuff.
02:48:17.000Because what they're doing, the organic papaya farmers have had to all go either give up their farm or switch to GMO papaya because none of their shit is growing.
02:48:32.000But is that because of depletion of the soil?
02:48:34.000No, but they say that they're spraying the fucking chemicals on the soil.
02:48:40.000But do you know how much they'd have to spray on the soil to make it infertile?
02:48:44.000I mean, it seems to me it's a much more likely candidate to the same issues that we're having in this country with monocrops, that they're just depleting their soil because they're constantly growing on it.
02:48:53.000No, but these guys are doing organic...
02:49:33.000So when they find aluminum, they say, oh my god, they're spraying aluminum.
02:49:36.000There's no benefit to spraying aluminum on anything.
02:49:39.000It's never been proven that there's some evil government cabal that wants to spray aluminum on everything, and that's the reason why papayas don't grow right.
02:49:47.000It's way more likely that these papayas are growing in a place where they've been growing papayas for a long time and they've depleted the soil, especially dealing with soil that's really coming out of a volcano in the first place, right?
02:49:58.000Well, I mean, I understand that aspect of it, but it's the combination of other chemicals that they're using.
02:50:40.000Crops are better and our genetically, you know, modified crops are, you know, they can survive in these harsh climates and you can also add all of our nitrogen and our fertilizers, all our nasty shit to the soil.
02:50:54.000And everything else around it will die when we spray except for our crops because we've been genetically engineered to resist...
02:51:24.000I mean, when they're putting it in the seed and it comes out in the leaves and the bugs eat the shit and it blows their stomach up.
02:51:30.000There's a great documentary on it called What's With Wheat where they try to break down why wheat all of a sudden became a huge problem in the American diet, whereas in the early 1900s it was nothing.
02:51:39.000And it was a slow genetic modification where they started changing the weed itself.
02:51:45.000And breeding it to make higher yields so it's got more complex glutens in it.
02:51:50.000But then on top of that, it's the glyphosate.
02:51:52.000The glyphosate breaks down your gut barrier.
02:51:56.000So people get leaky gut and the rest of the issues.
02:52:18.000But see, here's the thing, and you saw The World According to Monsanto, and it's this revolving door policy, how they come out of Monsanto, or even what he was doing in Rumsfeld when he was the CEO of Searle.
02:52:31.000So they get into the government, they pass legislation, and then they go back to the corporations to reap the benefits of the laws that they passed.
02:52:41.000So I think, you know, whether or not shit could really be what the fuck motherfuckers are saying it is in Hawaii or anywhere else, the truth is going to possibly come out eventually or maybe not.
02:53:15.000I go to fucking a health food store and eat shit that's out of season because I like my fucking broccoli and kale or whatever the fuck and some fruit or whatever, but...
02:53:29.000It's shipped in from Cali and Florida.
02:53:33.000I mean, you know, it's not the best, but hey, when you take into equation the fact that I've eliminated the other foods that use the highest amount of fossil fuels to grow the crops and everything else that's involved with producing the huge,
02:54:49.000Well, they've admitted to experimenting with weather manipulation and to having strategies for dealing with it, whether it is for dealing with hostile foreign governments where you're trying to starve them out or trying to put rain.
02:55:04.000I mean, they've been cloud seeding forever.
02:56:01.000Yeah, and China's how many billion in India and it's like they're not fucking They're not gonna stop fucking doing what they're doing.
02:56:09.000No, no, they're not and it's Again, it's like what we were talking about with all the other aspects of gigantic culture.
02:56:17.000There's so many moving pieces It's so it's so difficult because we're we're talking about these pieces that have been in place for decades and so to try to make corrections now And some people are.
02:57:39.000Yeah, it's a beautiful, beautiful place though, and that's why people are willing to take that hit.
02:57:43.000We live in a place that humans like yourself and myself and people that are alive today, we are stuck in a system that was created many, many decades ago.
02:57:56.000Many decades ago, and it wasn't put into place with our interest in mind.
02:57:59.000It was put into place with the interest in mind of profit.
02:58:02.000And it was also to deal with, to accommodate millions and millions of people that are all jammed into one place where no one's growing any food.
02:59:08.000So then they said, well, how the fuck are we going to get food if we ain't got no car and we can't go seven, ten miles out of town to the supermarket?
02:59:16.000So now urban organic farming is becoming a big thing where they're showing these people.
02:59:21.000And now they're starting to crack down.
02:59:23.000The cities are trying to crack down on these people that are growing fucking food.
02:59:30.000I had Ron Finley on this podcast, and he's got a similar program in South Central, and he helps these kids and people that live there use vacant lots, use medians, use all these areas.
02:59:49.000I mean, what would be ideal is if every community, instead of just having a house jammed next to a house, jammed next to a house, every community have one community lot, and that community lot we all grow our food in.
03:00:02.000I mean, even in a fucking closet, they're showing how to do...
03:00:05.000They had a shipping container in New York, and it was a demonstration, and they put it on Lafayette Street in Houston, and it was a shipping container.
03:00:18.000And when you walked in there, it was a fucking farm.
03:00:22.000And I forget how many thousand pounds of fucking organic produce that that fucking farm inside that shipping container was able to grow.
03:00:44.000It is possible that we could cordon off a small section of every community and have a community garden.
03:00:51.000It would also be good for the community in terms of people interacting with each other and feeling like they're a part of something and taking responsibility.
03:01:03.000Getting your hands in the dirt, too, man.
03:01:06.000That's one of the programs we did in this documentary.
03:01:10.000We had the guys going to organic farms and getting their hands in the dirt and seeing people just as a disconnect between Farmers, man, that's a fucking hard-ass fucking job.
03:02:33.000So in 75, on the Geraldo Rivera show, they premiered the Zapruder film footage of the assassination of President Kennedy from like fucking, you know, 20 yards away.
03:03:05.000The untrained eye is that he's shot more than once and probably shot from multiple different angles.
03:03:11.000The reason why they came up with the magic bullet theory was because they had to account for another bullet that didn't hit the president.
03:03:18.000They had to account for a bullet that ricocheted under an underpass and hit a guy.
03:03:23.000So yeah, the bullet had to go through two people and it had to leave traces of the bullet behind that weren't missing from the bullet and it had to shatter bone and not distort, which doesn't happen.
03:03:58.000There's a great book on it called Best Evidence by David Lifton.
03:04:02.000David Lifton was an accountant who went over the Warren Commission report, step by step, every step of the way, and found all these contradictions in the reportings.
03:05:28.000Executive Order 11110. To give the printing of the money back to the fucking, take it away from the Federal Reserve and Yeah, they whacked him just a couple months later.
03:07:27.000We don't even know the shit that's going on behind the walls in the fucking offices, man.
03:07:33.000It would fucking scare the fucking bejesus out of you if you knew what the fuck was what these people's minds had.
03:07:45.000Well, you get accustomed to making rationalizations that will cost people their lives.
03:07:49.000And I think anybody that can send a drone to shoot down an apartment building because of metadata, you know, you found a metadata that seems to indicate that the cell phone of a certain criminal is on the 14th floor.
03:08:01.000Let the fucking Hellfire missiles fly, baby.
03:08:03.000I mean, that's decisions that they make at the highest level of government.
03:08:08.000Sitting there completely fucking disconnected from everything.
03:08:14.000If you talk to someone from the CIA, they tell you it's all lawyers who make those decisions too.
03:08:18.000Lawyers do all the calculations and they go, yeah, you can do it.
03:10:55.000And one bouncer walked up and started some shit with Tony was trying to talk to a girl or whatever.
03:11:02.000And then this guy, he's all on the juice, rips off his shirt like, ah!
03:11:07.000Fucking Tony throws a kick, fucking dislocates the guy's fucking kneecap, and then the melee just ensued, and it was just constant, these fucking huge bouncers coming at him, and Brian's like,
03:11:23.000bah, bah, bah, fucking, Brian could fight.
03:11:25.000Brian is, you know, he's a comedian, but he could throw down.
03:11:32.000And then Brian just told me this, because I didn't hear the other part.
03:11:36.000Then all of a sudden, I'm fucking whacking these dudes and us, we're fighting these guys.
03:11:41.000And then this fucking gigantic motherfucker, like...
03:11:45.000I was just like a little fucking baby in his arms, lifts me up and carries me out the fucking door and throws me across this car.
03:11:54.000And I look and I turn around and I'm ready to go and then Brian says and I look and it's this fucking crazy white dude with a fucking scar.
03:12:05.000From one end of his face down his throat and he points at Brian and goes, don't even think about it.
03:12:54.000Because, like, street fights would show you how things would work in the real world.
03:12:57.000And the more you did it, the more you understood urgency, closing the distance, you know, delivering the first strike, all that kind of shit.
03:16:04.000You ever come in the city, man, I'll give you a fuck of the three-hour tour.
03:16:08.000You ever come to the city, I'll give you a private one, but it's like, it's been all over.
03:16:11.000I've been on the Today Show, Sunday Today Show, The Times, fucking, it's like the best underground fucking walk-in tour of crime, music, and history on the Lower East Side.
03:16:24.000We go by where the Palladium was, where the Clash, September 21st, the cover of the Clash, London Calling was shot there, Paul Simmon on smash and his bass.
03:16:34.000He had Julian's Billiards right there, all the fucking pool hall hustlers.
03:16:39.000And before the Palladium, it was called the Academy of Music, Dizzy Gillespie, everybody played there.
03:16:45.000And then up the street from that was Customato's gym called the Gramercy Gym.
03:16:51.000And everybody, Floyd Patterson, Ford, out of there.
03:16:54.000If you pull up pictures of Gramercy Gym, you can see there's a picture, and Floyd Patterson's working the speed bag.
03:17:01.000And when that closed, I was just walking by one day, and I was with my mom, and she goes, your father, because P.C. Richards took over the space, and they put a plaque, and it said this is where Custom Models Gym, we train, what is it, Jose Torres,
03:17:17.000the world champions, and all these weight classes.
03:17:20.000And my mother just goes, oh, your father boxed it.