The Joe Rogan Experience - Joe Rogan Experience #1180

00:00:02.000 Five, four, three, two.

00:00:06.000 Ladies and gentlemen, live and available right now, Everlast, Whitey Ford, House of Pain.

00:00:12.000 You!

00:00:12.000 Yes, sir.

00:00:13.000 How are you, sir?

00:00:13.000 How are you doing, man?

00:00:14.000 Good to see you, brother.

00:00:15.000 Good to see you again.

00:00:16.000 Been a minute.

00:00:16.000 You going to Vegas this weekend for the fights?

00:00:18.000 Yeah, man.

00:00:18.000 We got a little party the night before.

00:00:20.000 We were doing a little show at the Brooklyn Bowl with my buddy Evidence and my crew cycle around.

00:00:25.000 No headphones?

00:00:25.000 You don't want to wear headphones?

00:00:26.000 Oh, I'm going to put the headphones on.

00:00:27.000 I feel like I'm alone here with the headphones on.

00:00:29.000 There we go.

00:00:29.000 Now we're on the same team.

00:00:31.000 Now we're locked in.

00:00:33.000 Is this out?

00:00:34.000 This is out, right?

00:00:35.000 Yeah, it came out about three weeks ago, something like that, maybe a month.

00:00:38.000 Beautiful.

00:00:39.000 I've been in Europe for the whole month, just touring, so...

00:00:42.000 This is like everything.

00:00:43.000 Everlast presents Whitey Ford's House of Pain.

00:00:46.000 Yeah, it's everything in the toolbox I brought to this record.

00:00:50.000 So that's kind of where the title came from.

00:00:53.000 It's been eight years since my last Real Studio album.

00:00:57.000 I figured, hey, maybe this could be the last one.

00:01:00.000 I hope not.

00:01:01.000 What?

00:01:01.000 You know my story with the family.

00:01:05.000 I dedicate a lot more of my time to the family just because of some of the extra issues we deal with, which everything is wonderful and great now.

00:01:15.000 Dude, I'm 30 pounds lighter than the last time I was here.

00:01:18.000 How'd you do that?

00:01:19.000 Honestly, it started here because I purposely came here that day.

00:01:24.000 It was the first time, if you remember, it was a while ago.

00:01:27.000 I haven't done a thousand podcasts since that day.

00:01:29.000 But it was the first time I had come out and they started talking about anything that was going on in my life in a public way.

00:01:38.000 You know, I got a lot off my chest that day, and I also planned that day to put myself in a position to hold myself accountable by stating, I don't feel good about the way I look right now.

00:01:50.000 And I reached out.

00:02:08.000 Right.

00:02:09.000 Right.

00:02:14.000 I put it up there on the wall and stamped it and said, here's what I want out of life right now.

00:02:19.000 There's nobody stopping me but me.

00:02:21.000 And sometimes some of the things I used to get on and see you talking about, I'm not letting this inner bitch kick my ass today.

00:02:28.000 And I just started taking things like that to heart.

00:02:31.000 How'd you change?

00:02:33.000 What'd you do different?

00:02:35.000 We started talking about it last time.

00:02:36.000 Therapy, you know what I mean?

00:02:37.000 It's helped a lot for me because of this, you know, the added pressures our family faces with my oldest daughter having cystic fibrosis.

00:02:46.000 You know, it just, for a long time, it was just learning how to live life with it.

00:02:50.000 You know, and that got heavy.

00:02:51.000 There was some real dark, you know, heavy moments, you know, scary moments for her in the hospital, you know.

00:02:56.000 So, I mean, as a human, you know, you have this baby and you're just trying to figure out how to not...

00:03:03.000 Screw it up with a normal health situation.

00:03:06.000 This is this added thing.

00:03:07.000 It took a long time for me to come to terms.

00:03:10.000 At first, I got really angry.

00:03:11.000 I got into some real Lieutenant Dan, war with God kind of stuff at the top of the sailboat.

00:03:18.000 I was there all the way.

00:03:20.000 It got to a point where I almost got locked up for trying to fight a cop that was trying to just talk to me about something.

00:03:29.000 I just lost my mind.

00:03:30.000 I had no...

00:03:32.000 I had so much anger over so much that I wasn't dealing with.

00:03:35.000 And then I found a guy that just really got me, a therapist, and it began the ball rolling of understanding how to cope with a lot of that stuff.

00:03:45.000 Wow.

00:03:47.000 So, as far as like, first of all, you look really good.

00:03:50.000 Thank you, man.

00:03:51.000 Your face looks great.

00:03:52.000 Your skin looks good.

00:03:53.000 I'm taking a lot better care of myself.

00:03:55.000 It looks like it.

00:03:56.000 Thank you.

00:03:57.000 What are you doing different as far as how you eat?

00:03:59.000 Just eating cleaner.

00:04:01.000 Just trying not to be more aware of what's in the food and what's in the meat and stuff.

00:04:05.000 I'm still part of the whole commercial meat system, though I long to get into a situation where I'm hunting and doing things like that.

00:04:13.000 We had talked about that for a while.

00:04:14.000 You wanted to try hunting pigs at Tejon Ranch, right?

00:04:17.000 Well, I asked you what would be the best starting point, and you were like, you know, they got boar up there at El Tejon, and I know some guys.

00:04:24.000 And I actually contacted them, and I just, again, this life.

00:04:27.000 You're so busy.

00:04:28.000 It's not just this.

00:04:29.000 It's the added stress of, like, you know, I have a wife that when I go on the road, she's the sole handler of these problems, you know what I mean?

00:04:37.000 So these things pile on you, guilt and stress and all this, you know?

00:04:43.000 So yeah, it's just between that and when I'm home, I just invest myself.

00:04:46.000 I want to be home.

00:04:47.000 I want to do as much as I can to lift that weight.

00:04:49.000 So I get caught up by all the things I want to do, I can't do all the time.

00:04:53.000 But it started again, now I'm taking care of myself.

00:04:56.000 I'm actually about to start jiu-jitsu again, which I've been doing.

00:04:58.000 Really?

00:04:59.000 Yeah, because forever I was so goddamn fat in the middle.

00:05:02.000 Hip escapes were like, you know, I was hurting my back or my neck every other time I tried to do it.

00:05:06.000 I just quit because it was getting, you know what I mean?

00:05:08.000 I mean, I wasn't super advanced.

00:05:10.000 I was probably pretty close to getting a blue belt.

00:05:12.000 You know, I was about a year in on like four lessons a week with just the private, you know, I was with Marcus Vanessa said Beverly Hills Jiu Jitsu for a while.

00:05:22.000 Now I'm just looking to see what I want to do.

00:05:24.000 You know, I've talked to Eddie a few times.

00:05:25.000 I'm talking to a few other guys.

00:05:27.000 Cron has thrown some advice my way.

00:05:29.000 Are you doing any exercise at all besides that?

00:05:32.000 Cardio, not much weights or anything like that.

00:05:34.000 Just, you know, keeping it moving.

00:05:36.000 Two hours on stage a night.

00:05:38.000 Right.

00:05:39.000 It's good to do something first.

00:05:41.000 I feel like...

00:05:43.000 I always tell people, like, jujitsu is so grueling that I think of why...

00:05:48.000 I mean, you could just jump in and you will get in shape through jujitsu.

00:05:50.000 But a good thing to do is, like, find a place that teaches you kettlebells and take some kettlebell classes and just get your body strong enough...

00:06:01.000 Well, I remember one of the things Marcus used to do, Marcus used to run me around the gym for 30 minutes before we could even start a lesson.

00:06:07.000 Like, I literally had to puke for the first, like, month.

00:06:10.000 Yeah, that's that old-school way.

00:06:11.000 And then it would take so long that he would be like, all right, you're past the puking thing, you've ran it.

00:06:16.000 But at first, I would, like...

00:06:19.000 Literally be run until I was puke.

00:06:20.000 And then the crazy part about it was 15 minutes after you felt great when you were doing the lessons.

00:06:26.000 So it all worked.

00:06:27.000 Yeah, the old school guys, that's how they used to do it.

00:06:30.000 They used to, like all the old school Carlson Gracie classes, you'd have a grueling physical workout first.

00:06:36.000 Hip escapes, push-ups, sit-ups, bodyweight squats, all this different stuff.

00:06:40.000 There's a good thought process behind that, not just that it gets you in shape, but also that you learn how to do jiu-jitsu when you're tired.

00:06:47.000 So that you learn how to just use technique and not use, like, physical strength.

00:06:52.000 Relax.

00:06:52.000 You almost have no choice but to relax.

00:06:53.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:06:55.000 There's people that disagree with that though.

00:06:57.000 They think you should learn technique when you're fresh and it, like, sits in better.

00:07:02.000 But it's just two different schools of thought.

00:07:04.000 You know, I don't think either one is right.

00:07:05.000 It's definitely good to understand what it's like to be tired and how to train and how to push yourself when you're tired.

00:07:13.000 For sure.

00:07:13.000 Yeah.

00:07:14.000 I'm excited.

00:07:15.000 I'm really looking forward to it.

00:07:16.000 Like, I just started talking about, like, about two weeks ago, really getting back into it.

00:07:20.000 Well, that's a lot of weight to lose, man.

00:07:22.000 That's a big accomplishment.

00:07:23.000 I got 15 to go to really to hit my goal.

00:07:25.000 Yeah.

00:07:26.000 I want to be 225. 225 is a good weight.

00:07:29.000 Yeah.

00:07:31.000 Are you taking vitamins or supplements or anything along those lines?

00:07:35.000 Like a daily, but I have restrictions because I take blood thinners and stuff because of this titanium heart valve I have.

00:07:40.000 So I have to have a vitamin that's devoid of vitamin K because that's what makes your blood clot.

00:07:46.000 A lot of the juicing things and things like that when you want to go on a juice cleanse, I can't do it because a lot of it's kale-based.

00:07:54.000 And, like, kale is heavy green.

00:07:55.000 It's high in vitamin K. It'll totally, like, screw up my blood chemistry, you know, because I'm going the other direction with blood thinners.

00:08:02.000 Jesus Christ.

00:08:04.000 I have to, otherwise, like, a clock could hit, like, stick to that titanium valve, break off, and wind up in my brain.

00:08:09.000 You know what I mean?

00:08:10.000 And then I'm stroked out, and that's the last thing we need.

00:08:13.000 Fuck.

00:08:13.000 Yeah, I remember when you put the microphone up to your heart, and you could hear that...

00:08:17.000 Yeah, I'm so, so, like, when I'm in here, I keep feeling like you can hear it anyways, like, all through this.

00:08:23.000 I hear it, it's white noise to me.

00:08:25.000 If I want to hear it, I can hear it.

00:08:26.000 I can take my pulse like this just by telling you.

00:08:28.000 Wow.

00:08:29.000 Two, three.

00:08:30.000 You can feel it?

00:08:31.000 I can hear it in my own skull.

00:08:32.000 Wow.

00:08:33.000 I can hear it in my bones.

00:08:34.000 I can hear it.

00:08:35.000 It's in me.

00:08:35.000 How long is that good for?

00:08:37.000 Forever.

00:08:37.000 Forever?

00:08:38.000 As long as I take care of myself.

00:08:39.000 I mean, it's been 20 years, literally, in 2018. It happened in 98. Wow.

00:08:46.000 And I just get, you know, as long as I keep the blood thinners going and, you know, I get checked, you know, two times, three times a year, you know.

00:08:54.000 And then the blood thinner, is it because if you got a clot, it would somehow or another get stuck in that valve?

00:08:59.000 A clot could, like, or, you know, it's a titanium valve, so the clot could actually form on it.

00:09:04.000 The metal, like, if the blood's too sticky and has too much clot, it could stick to the valve, then break off, and then wind up in your brain.

00:09:12.000 Whoa.

00:09:13.000 You know?

00:09:14.000 But to avoid blood clots in general, yes.

00:09:17.000 Right.

00:09:17.000 What's the difference between that and a regular valve?

00:09:20.000 What would happen with a regular valve?

00:09:21.000 Well, the other choice would have been a pig valve, and those are good for about 15 years.

00:09:26.000 They would have already had to open you up again.

00:09:27.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:09:28.000 I would have had to have it done.

00:09:29.000 I'd probably be due.

00:09:30.000 Yeah, I'd probably right now do.

00:09:32.000 Pig valve.

00:09:33.000 They do that for older people is what they do.

00:09:36.000 When you get into your 60s, they'll really explore that.

00:09:39.000 Pig valve.

00:09:40.000 They don't think you're going to be around 50 more years.

00:09:42.000 They just say, here, just for now.

00:09:45.000 It's called a St. Jude's artificial valve.

00:09:50.000 Powerful medical technology.

00:09:52.000 Eddie Bravo's got a titanium disc in his back now.

00:09:55.000 Yeah, he just had a surgery.

00:09:56.000 That's right.

00:09:56.000 Yeah, his back moves around great.

00:09:58.000 He was fully compressed where there was nothing left.

00:10:01.000 It was basically bone on bone.

00:10:03.000 He was in pain all the time.

00:10:04.000 And they just opened him up and put a fake valve in there.

00:10:07.000 That's crazy.

00:10:08.000 Or a fake disc, rather, in there.

00:10:10.000 But it's articulating.

00:10:11.000 So it moves around like a regular disc.

00:10:14.000 It's not like he's fused.

00:10:16.000 You're seeing people that are all Yeah, they get the fuse.

00:10:19.000 I have a friend that got that done.

00:10:20.000 Yeah, they're super stiff.

00:10:21.000 Like, wherever it is, it's basically locked down.

00:10:24.000 There's no movement to it anymore.

00:10:26.000 But Eddie's is actually, it moves like a real disc.

00:10:29.000 Yeah, the shit that's gonna be coming down the pipeline is gonna be crazy, man.

00:10:33.000 Yeah, I mean, I know people with fake everything.

00:10:35.000 I know people with fake hips and fake knees and...

00:10:38.000 Fake butts.

00:10:38.000 Fake heart valves.

00:10:39.000 Fake heart valves.

00:10:40.000 Yeah.

00:10:41.000 Yeah.

00:10:41.000 It's amazing.

00:10:42.000 I mean, at a certain point in time, they're just going to replace your whole body and take your brain out and put it in some new body.

00:10:48.000 Or you're just going to be able to download your consciousness.

00:10:50.000 Well, that's what Elon was saying.

00:10:52.000 Yo, your man got in mad trouble!

00:10:54.000 He didn't really.

00:10:56.000 It made some noise, man.

00:10:58.000 Yeah, but here's the deal, dude.

00:10:59.000 When you got $25 billion, all trouble is bullshit.

00:11:03.000 Truth.

00:11:03.000 It's like, good luck with your trouble.

00:11:05.000 Yeah.

00:11:05.000 You're in trouble, Elon.

00:11:07.000 Oh, yeah.

00:11:08.000 He's out there with a fucking flamethrower shooting rocket ships into the atmosphere.

00:11:12.000 Yeah, that flamethrower is crazy, too.

00:11:14.000 He does whatever he wants, man.

00:11:15.000 He's basically like a little kid who's a genius.

00:11:17.000 Can you actually buy that?

00:11:18.000 Is that, like, for sale?

00:11:18.000 Not anymore.

00:11:19.000 There's one right there.

00:11:20.000 Oh, you're kidding.

00:11:21.000 There's one right there.

00:11:22.000 Yeah.

00:11:23.000 He sold them all out in like two days or something, right?

00:11:27.000 Oh, man.

00:11:27.000 I don't doubt it.

00:11:28.000 I would have been on it had I been hit.

00:11:30.000 What are you going to do with it, though?

00:11:32.000 It's just fun.

00:11:33.000 It's just you have a flamethrower.

00:11:35.000 But it's literally called not a flamethrower.

00:11:40.000 Yeah.

00:11:40.000 It's amazing.

00:11:41.000 Yeah, it's basically what you saw in the movie Aliens.

00:11:44.000 Remember the second Alien when they're shooting the flames at the aliens?

00:11:47.000 That's what that thing is.

00:11:49.000 Yeah, I seen him on something just the other day.

00:11:51.000 Was it here where it looked like he was going to set the building on fire?

00:11:54.000 Yeah, that was in here.

00:11:55.000 Yeah, that was on my Instagram.

00:11:56.000 Yeah, he's a madman.

00:11:58.000 The world needs more of those.

00:12:00.000 More people like him.

00:12:01.000 Not more flamethrowers.

00:12:03.000 Yeah.

00:12:04.000 Plenty of flamethrowers.

00:12:06.000 So, uh, you looking forward to the fights this weekend?

00:12:09.000 I'm super jacked for it, man.

00:12:11.000 You know, we got this little show before.

00:12:13.000 Is anybody coming out to jump around?

00:12:15.000 Um, I don't know.

00:12:16.000 They have to.

00:12:17.000 They, you know, I'm waiting for Conor to, you know.

00:12:20.000 How does he not adopt that song?

00:12:23.000 I don't know.

00:12:23.000 Well, he comes out to Sinead O'Connor, right?

00:12:25.000 Like, he does, like, usually, like, that into, like, the Notorious, like, song.

00:12:30.000 Like, the, you know, the, I don't know, the Notorious.

00:12:33.000 Right.

00:12:34.000 Yeah.

00:12:36.000 Who was coming out to jump around?

00:12:38.000 Marcus Davis did.

00:12:39.000 He did.

00:12:40.000 I know Cavillo, the female fighter.

00:12:46.000 Cynthia Cavillo?

00:12:47.000 Yeah, Cavillo.

00:12:48.000 Thank you.

00:12:48.000 I know she comes out to jump around.

00:12:50.000 I met her at a fight.

00:12:51.000 She was super cool.

00:12:53.000 Quite a few people have come out to it.

00:12:56.000 I think Mashida came out to it once.

00:12:58.000 Really?

00:12:58.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:13:00.000 He's over in Bellator now.

00:13:02.000 I'm not always sure they have a choice.

00:13:03.000 Sometimes I just think Dana says, you're coming out to jump around.

00:13:07.000 Well, he definitely takes away bad choices.

00:13:10.000 I might be the sub when there's a really shitty choice.

00:13:15.000 Like, here, throw that in there.

00:13:16.000 But then Darren Till came out to Sweet Caroline.

00:13:19.000 He came out to, uh, who was that?

00:13:21.000 Neil Diamond.

00:13:22.000 Neil Diamond, yeah.

00:13:22.000 And he had the whole crowd singing along.

00:13:24.000 I'm like, this is crazy.

00:13:25.000 It's crazy.

00:13:25.000 Was that in Boston or in that area of the country?

00:13:28.000 No.

00:13:29.000 It was, uh, where was that fight?

00:13:31.000 Chicago?

00:13:33.000 Chicago makes sense.

00:13:34.000 Neil Diamond.

00:13:34.000 Wasn't in Chicago?

00:13:36.000 No.

00:13:37.000 Dallas.

00:13:38.000 It was Dallas.

00:13:39.000 That's strange.

00:13:40.000 That's a little weird.

00:13:42.000 He should have came out to Hank Williams.

00:13:45.000 Yeah, it was weird.

00:13:46.000 It was weird.

00:13:47.000 Yeah.

00:13:49.000 It's just like, you know, that's a big deal.

00:13:51.000 Like, walkout songs are a big deal.

00:13:54.000 You can't have a whack walkout song.

00:13:56.000 The thing for me is when I hear one of my songs, I'm just always like, oh, please win.

00:14:01.000 I'm just like, oh, please win.

00:14:03.000 Imagine if your song becomes a curse.

00:14:04.000 Yeah, it's like, oh, man, come on, man.

00:14:07.000 Like, John Anik does stats on fist bumps.

00:14:09.000 Like, how many times people fist bump Bruce Buffer whether or not they win or lose.

00:14:13.000 And Diego Sanchez broke the curse in his last fight.

00:14:16.000 He fist bumped Bruce and he won.

00:14:19.000 So the fist bump was a curse.

00:14:21.000 We were trying to figure it out.

00:14:22.000 Oh, okay.

00:14:22.000 Because he was like, I think it's like 50-50 right now, like whether or not people, when they fist bump Bruce Buffer, whether they win.

00:14:30.000 And there was a bad streak for a while, like three or four people in a row lost that were fist bumping.

00:14:36.000 You know, Bruce gives you the intro, you know, when he gives you the intro, you know, Diego, Nightmare Sanchez!

00:14:44.000 Yeah, I see.

00:14:44.000 He gives you a little fist bump.

00:14:46.000 And if you fist bump him back, if you do engage in that, like Annick was trying to figure out, Annick is kind of a degenerate gambler in the most positive way.

00:14:57.000 I mean, he's not losing his family or his life, but he fucking loves gambling.

00:15:01.000 And so he's always giving you stats on this and that.

00:15:03.000 Finding something to put a bet on, right?

00:15:05.000 I mean, it's not even things he actually bets on, but he's always thinking that way.

00:15:10.000 Could you bet on it?

00:15:11.000 Yeah.

00:15:11.000 I wonder if you could bet on how many people who fist bump Bruce Buffer.

00:15:16.000 You could find somebody to take the bet.

00:15:18.000 The thought process would be you're not totally in the zone if you got the time to fist bump Bruce Buffer.

00:15:23.000 I'm not sure if I'd buy it though.

00:15:25.000 No, because it's also your moment when he's saying your name and it's like, I'd be in that.

00:15:30.000 Yeah.

00:15:31.000 Yeah.

00:15:32.000 I don't know.

00:15:34.000 It's tricky.

00:15:37.000 Tricky.

00:15:37.000 Well, it sounds like it's about even, so it's just one of them things.

00:15:41.000 Someone should do stats on it, because John Anik has only done, like, you know, just off the top of his head.

00:15:46.000 There's some guy in his basement right now starting.

00:15:49.000 Oh, for sure.

00:15:49.000 Starting to watch the fights.

00:15:51.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:15:52.000 Write it down.

00:15:52.000 Okay, let's take the notes.

00:15:54.000 Well, you could basically bet on anything these days, right?

00:15:57.000 In Vegas, yeah.

00:15:58.000 You could pretty much find a lot of things that you wouldn't think you could bet on that you can.

00:16:03.000 I don't even bet, but I like the fact that you can bet on everything.

00:16:07.000 Why not?

00:16:08.000 Over-unders, coin flips.

00:16:10.000 And it's also, I like that it's freedom.

00:16:12.000 I don't like this idea that people are telling you what you can and can't do with your money.

00:16:15.000 Like, you can't gamble your money away.

00:16:17.000 You have to go to a spot in the desert.

00:16:19.000 Like, why?

00:16:20.000 Says who?

00:16:22.000 Says who?

00:16:22.000 Like, why can't you gamble right here?

00:16:24.000 Why can't you have a casino on every corner?

00:16:28.000 Who cares?

00:16:29.000 Like, well, people are going to lose their paycheck and lose their family and lose their...

00:16:34.000 Will they really?

00:16:35.000 Will they really?

00:16:36.000 Is that what's going to do it?

00:16:38.000 Is it the casino?

00:16:39.000 Maybe for a while, but then people will be like, you know, we shouldn't go there as much.

00:16:43.000 Yeah, it's like the infantilization of people.

00:16:46.000 You know, keep them, protect them from themselves.

00:16:49.000 You don't protect them from liquor stores or fast cars.

00:16:52.000 You know, those things are everywhere.

00:16:53.000 Everywhere.

00:16:54.000 Good point, right?

00:16:55.000 Yeah.

00:16:57.000 I'm with you, man.

00:16:59.000 I could never live in Vegas, though.

00:17:01.000 I could live in Vegas, you know, if it was between Beirut and Vegas.

00:17:06.000 You know, I'd be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, Vegas.

00:17:08.000 For sure.

00:17:08.000 Let's do it.

00:17:08.000 I'll figure it out.

00:17:10.000 But, you know, it just, it seems to me like, this just, the whole thing is, it's built, I mean, there's shows and it's wonderful and there's neon and there's great restaurants and all that stuff, but it's also built on you losing money.

00:17:25.000 Yeah.

00:17:26.000 The whole thing is built on you losing money.

00:17:27.000 And what's the real population of Vegas?

00:17:29.000 Like a half a million people?

00:17:30.000 Of people that aren't there visiting, gambling, and for the fuckery?

00:17:35.000 Let's take a guess.

00:17:37.000 I'm guessing like half a million people.

00:17:38.000 Yeah.

00:17:39.000 I bet you're about right.

00:17:41.000 Six?

00:17:43.000 630,000.

00:17:43.000 I'm not that far off, man.

00:17:45.000 Pretty close.

00:17:45.000 Yeah, it's a good guess.

00:17:46.000 Would that have been...

00:17:48.000 That's close enough to win the bet.

00:17:49.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:17:51.000 Yeah, I mean, if the price is right.

00:17:52.000 Yeah, so you've got a real small town there that's acting like a city, too.

00:17:56.000 It's kind of weird.

00:17:57.000 Right.

00:17:57.000 You know?

00:17:58.000 Well, like, what is the population at any given time with all the hotels filled?

00:18:02.000 Oh, I would probably guess...

00:18:04.000 Like, this weekend's a big weekend.

00:18:05.000 At least double.

00:18:06.000 More than that, probably, right?

00:18:07.000 I'm saying, at least, even like an off-season, off-day, you're probably at least double that.

00:18:12.000 But a lot of the folks that work in Vegas, they live in like Henderson or something like that, where you can go into a nice neighborhood, your kids can ride bikes in the street.

00:18:20.000 It's like normal.

00:18:21.000 Over there to Summerlin, too.

00:18:24.000 That's really nice over there.

00:18:25.000 Yes.

00:18:26.000 Yeah, there's a few of those spots that are like normal.

00:18:29.000 I actually like staying over there at that Red Rock.

00:18:30.000 That's nice.

00:18:31.000 Yeah, I don't like the strip.

00:18:32.000 There's too much fuckery, man.

00:18:34.000 Exactly.

00:18:35.000 That's why I like you.

00:18:37.000 Get quiet.

00:18:37.000 If I want the fuckery, I'll take a cab to the fuckery.

00:18:40.000 Exactly!

00:18:40.000 The fuckery's over 40 minutes away.

00:18:42.000 This actually says there's one and a half million people there.

00:18:45.000 At any given time?

00:18:46.000 Probably more like that, yeah.

00:18:47.000 Wow.

00:18:48.000 So for the fights, what about a big fight weekend?

00:18:50.000 What I'm looking for?

00:18:51.000 I typed in for hotels.

00:18:52.000 How many people are in the hotel rooms?

00:18:54.000 I guess there's 148,000 rooms.

00:18:57.000 Whoa.

00:18:58.000 Dude, there might be 148,000 Irish people there this weekend.

00:19:02.000 Just screaming.

00:19:03.000 If you're there this weekend, just pay attention because it's going to be bananas.

00:19:08.000 The last time for the Mayweather fight, there was a video that someone posted of Mandalay Bay.

00:19:14.000 And Mandalay Bay was not even where the fight was taking place.

00:19:16.000 And the Irish had this one hallway completely filled and they were all singing.

00:19:22.000 They were singing some crazy Irish song.

00:19:25.000 They shut down like 6th Avenue in New York.

00:19:26.000 They don't give a fuck.

00:19:27.000 Yeah.

00:19:28.000 It's one little island.

00:19:29.000 It's a little island.

00:19:30.000 It's not big.

00:19:31.000 They all got on a plane.

00:19:32.000 It's fucking crazy.

00:19:34.000 And there's a lot of us here, too.

00:19:36.000 You know when I say us.

00:19:38.000 I got a little in me.

00:19:39.000 One quarter.

00:19:41.000 There's so many more Irish or Irish...

00:19:45.000 Part Irish people in America.

00:19:47.000 There's more than there are Irish people in Ireland.

00:19:49.000 They did a lot of fucking.

00:19:50.000 Yeah.

00:19:50.000 They came over here and did a lot of fucking.

00:19:52.000 And they weren't discriminated about, you know, color or creed or any of that.

00:19:56.000 Meanwhile, Jamie's got a notorious t-shirt on with the Irish flag.

00:19:59.000 Look at you, savage.

00:20:00.000 Is that available at youngjamie.com?

00:20:02.000 There's a link there if you need it.

00:20:03.000 Oh my goodness.

00:20:05.000 Powerful commerce.

00:20:08.000 I want to try this whiskey, honestly, that he's got.

00:20:10.000 Yeah, you're a whiskey expert, right?

00:20:13.000 Yeah, I want to lay hands on it and see.

00:20:15.000 What's a good whiskey?

00:20:16.000 I actually was going to bring you a bottle of this, and I will next time, but I didn't because of respect for Sober October.

00:20:24.000 Sober October may be falling apart, I'm going to tell you right now.

00:20:26.000 Ladies and gentlemen, Burt Crusher's going on a cruise, and Ari Shafir and Tom Skurra both gave him the green light to drink.

00:20:33.000 Because this fitness challenge is falling apart.

00:20:36.000 Meanwhile, Bert is strongly in last place.

00:20:39.000 Yeah, all that talk about the Mickey Mantle gene, he's not even close.

00:20:42.000 But what's fascinating is Ari Shafir is very close to me.

00:20:47.000 He posted today before my workout, that sneaky bitch, that he was ahead of me.

00:20:51.000 But that's how close he is.

00:20:53.000 He's so close that before his workout, he was like 100 points ahead of me.

00:20:57.000 Before my workout, rather.

00:20:58.000 After his.

00:20:59.000 Now he's like 400 points behind me.

00:21:01.000 But that's close.

00:21:04.000 400 points is one workout.

00:21:05.000 If you're an asshole and you want to get on a fucking treadmill for two hours, you can bang out 400 points.

00:21:12.000 I banged out 500 today.

00:21:15.000 507 at the end of the workout.

00:21:17.000 You're a beast, dude.

00:21:18.000 It's not a beast, man.

00:21:19.000 It's boring.

00:21:20.000 Red breast.

00:21:21.000 I was watching Gladiator.

00:21:23.000 There's little red spikes in my workout where I hit 90%.

00:21:26.000 That's when the fights were happening.

00:21:28.000 I got amped.

00:21:30.000 You might end up doing podcasts while you're on an elliptical for the end of the month.

00:21:34.000 Eh, it would suck.

00:21:35.000 Red Breast is my favorite new whiskey.

00:21:37.000 Red Breast?

00:21:38.000 Who makes that?

00:21:39.000 It's Red Breast.

00:21:41.000 It's like an Irish whiskey.

00:21:43.000 I'm going to bring you a bottle of the 20-year-old.

00:21:45.000 It's gorgeous.

00:21:46.000 20 years old?

00:21:47.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:21:47.000 It's beautiful.

00:21:48.000 What was that shit that we drank with Stanhope that was really good?

00:21:51.000 Was it Stanhope?

00:21:52.000 No.

00:21:52.000 Elon.

00:21:53.000 Stanhope brought it.

00:21:54.000 Yeah, old camp.

00:21:54.000 Stanhope brought it.

00:21:55.000 And doesn't some band make it?

00:21:57.000 That's the...

00:21:59.000 Florida Georgia Line or some shit?

00:22:00.000 Do they make it?

00:22:01.000 Is it theirs?

00:22:02.000 No.

00:22:03.000 Yeah.

00:22:04.000 They're like a pop band.

00:22:05.000 They make a good whiskey.

00:22:07.000 They're like a country band, I think.

00:22:09.000 Country pop.

00:22:10.000 Whatever.

00:22:11.000 Listen, man.

00:22:12.000 If you call yourself country, but you get them fake rips in your jeans, you can go suck a bag of dips.

00:22:17.000 Okay?

00:22:17.000 That ain't country.

00:22:22.000 Not saying that they have that.

00:22:24.000 I don't even know.

00:22:25.000 But you know what I'm saying?

00:22:26.000 Like, those fake rips in the jeans drive me...

00:22:28.000 I might have a couple little fake rips in my jeans over here.

00:22:30.000 I don't think you do.

00:22:31.000 I checked.

00:22:31.000 Those fake rips drive me goddamn bananas.

00:22:34.000 Like, what are we?

00:22:34.000 We're pretending that we work hard?

00:22:37.000 What are we, pretending that we've had these jeans for a long time and they're special to us?

00:22:41.000 Or do we just buy them off the shelf at Macy's pre-ripped?

00:22:45.000 Like, assholes.

00:22:46.000 Like, where the fuck did that take place?

00:22:48.000 Like, if our grandparents, who made it through the Depression, could come over here and see us buying ripped jeans, they would realize, like, what is wrong with this nerfed up, softened down, fucking shitty country we live in right now.

00:22:59.000 America.

00:23:00.000 It's too easy.

00:23:01.000 Too easy to get by.

00:23:02.000 It is.

00:23:03.000 We need wolves in the streets, young Eric.

00:23:07.000 Wolves.

00:23:08.000 Wolves.

00:23:08.000 You'll get me started, dude.

00:23:12.000 Can't be running around with fucking fake rips in your jeans.

00:23:15.000 I mean, I'm Brendan Schaub.

00:23:16.000 One of my best friends does that.

00:23:17.000 Oh, who's this?

00:23:18.000 That's them.

00:23:18.000 That's them with the...

00:23:19.000 Ah, I nailed it!

00:23:21.000 I didn't even mean to nail it.

00:23:23.000 I didn't even mean that.

00:23:24.000 I just took a wild guess.

00:23:26.000 I don't know a goddamn thing about these fellas.

00:23:28.000 Go to that other one.

00:23:31.000 Go to that last picture.

00:23:32.000 You're going to make me put the glasses on here.

00:23:33.000 Look at those jeans.

00:23:35.000 Make that bigger.

00:23:36.000 He looks like he got attacked by a shark.

00:23:38.000 I got some paint.

00:23:40.000 Oh, you do have some.

00:23:41.000 You got some fucked up shit on your jeans.

00:23:44.000 I'm going to keep it real, though.

00:23:45.000 I'm not going to let you go in on them and not come claim my jeans here.

00:23:51.000 Listen, I should shut the fuck up.

00:23:52.000 I'm basically wearing yoga pants.

00:23:54.000 I got these barbell jeans on.

00:23:56.000 These aren't even jeans.

00:23:57.000 These are goddamn yoga pants.

00:23:58.000 All jeans are made of weird, like, this ain't...

00:24:00.000 I mean, well, these don't do that.

00:24:02.000 These aren't even jeans, though.

00:24:02.000 These are actually denim.

00:24:03.000 These are, like, they might as well be spandex.

00:24:05.000 I might as well be wearing yoga pants.

00:24:07.000 But most pants are that now.

00:24:08.000 Even the ones that look like jeans, a lot of them are that.

00:24:10.000 Yeah.

00:24:11.000 They feel better.

00:24:12.000 It's technology.

00:24:13.000 It's called advancement in human civilization.

00:24:16.000 Yeah, you want to drive a car with leaf springs like an asshole?

00:24:18.000 Or do you want some new magnetic...

00:24:21.000 Cadillac Escalade.

00:24:22.000 You want the breeze to, you know, cruise through your pants?

00:24:25.000 Or you want to, you know, be sweaty all your time?

00:24:28.000 The breeze from fake holes?

00:24:29.000 I'll take the sweat.

00:24:31.000 Like a man.

00:24:37.000 I'm going to rock mine because I got skinny enough to wear these motherfuckers.

00:24:42.000 Okay, I respect that.

00:24:42.000 I'm going to wear these motherfuckers.

00:24:44.000 And wifey likes these motherfuckers.

00:24:46.000 Well, that's two pluses.

00:24:48.000 Just don't wear cowboy boots.

00:24:50.000 Oh, hell no.

00:24:52.000 We rocking the sneakers for life, dude.

00:24:55.000 My friend Cam Haynes, he wears them cowboy boots, and I just shut my mouth, looked down at those big old wooden heels, and I think Andrew Santino's bit.

00:25:03.000 You ever seen Andrew Santino's bit?

00:25:04.000 He's got a bit about dudes who wear cowboy boots.

00:25:07.000 Holy shit, is it funny.

00:25:08.000 Oh my god.

00:25:09.000 Oh, look it up on the tube.

00:25:11.000 I don't even know if it, he might not even put it on a special yet, but he's got a whole bit about dudes dressed up, like, with cowboy hats on and cowboy boots.

00:25:19.000 It's fucking hilarious.

00:25:22.000 Anyway, but I digress.

00:25:23.000 What's this cow skull with the third eye?

00:25:27.000 What's that?

00:25:28.000 Just a sweatshirt I liked.

00:25:30.000 Okay.

00:25:30.000 I like it too.

00:25:32.000 It's a brand called Adaptation.

00:25:34.000 Hmm.

00:25:35.000 Interesting.

00:25:36.000 It has a fake hole in the elbow.

00:25:37.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:25:39.000 Sorry, dude.

00:25:39.000 Jesus.

00:25:40.000 Full disclosure.

00:25:41.000 I'm not going to not tell the truth.

00:25:43.000 What is happening with the holes?

00:25:45.000 How did that happen?

00:25:46.000 What happened to us?

00:25:47.000 I'm sorry, dude.

00:25:48.000 I'm disappointing you so much.

00:25:50.000 The reality is, this is what's fucked up.

00:25:52.000 Why does it look better?

00:25:53.000 Because it kind of does.

00:25:55.000 It kind of looks better.

00:25:56.000 If you're wearing a shirt and it's got like, even if it's a new shirt, but it's got like those little holes around the collar, little tiny holes, like a little bit of rip here, a little tiny rip there.

00:26:05.000 Why does it look better?

00:26:06.000 I don't know.

00:26:06.000 Maybe there's some psychological way of ripping things that some people are more talented at it that they just know where to make it cool.

00:26:14.000 They make it look like you're comfortable.

00:26:16.000 I mean, when we were young, if you had a pair of Levi's where the knee was getting thin, we would advance that shit.

00:26:22.000 You know, there was something cool.

00:26:23.000 Yeah, if it was like, we didn't rip them up like they do nowadays, but say you had a pair of jeans long enough, the knees would get thin.

00:26:31.000 If they ripped a little, you'd just kind of run with it, maybe stress them out, rip them a little bit more.

00:26:34.000 Yeah, why not?

00:26:35.000 I don't like that.

00:26:36.000 Oh, well.

00:26:36.000 Presenting the $1,625 designer t-shirt complete with tears and holes.

00:26:41.000 Okay.

00:26:42.000 We can all agree.

00:26:43.000 If you buy that, you're a fucking asshole.

00:26:45.000 If you spent $1,000 on a t-shirt, you're kind of an asshole.

00:26:48.000 The only good thing about that is I think that's a ladies t-shirt and them holes are right above them titties.

00:26:54.000 And all she has to do is bend over to tie her shoes and it might not be a nip slip.

00:26:58.000 It might be a nip poke through.

00:27:00.000 Right?

00:27:01.000 Like, look where those holes are.

00:27:02.000 Quite possibly.

00:27:03.000 Those titties are jutting out.

00:27:06.000 Right?

00:27:06.000 Look at that.

00:27:07.000 You know how that works, too.

00:27:08.000 She might not even be wearing that shirt.

00:27:10.000 That might not even be a person, bro.

00:27:12.000 You know what I mean?

00:27:12.000 That might be a mannequin.

00:27:14.000 Yeah, they do things and they just put different shirts on shit with Photoshop and shit now.

00:27:18.000 It's crazy.

00:27:19.000 Yeah, but that's a stupid shirt.

00:27:21.000 That's a $1,600 shirt.

00:27:22.000 There's a stupider shirt.

00:27:23.000 Look at this one.

00:27:23.000 There's a t-shirt that has a button-down shirt sewn to the front of it.

00:27:30.000 Dude, it was like on the blogs a couple weeks ago.

00:27:33.000 You know what I'm talking about.

00:27:34.000 See, he's in the sneaker blogs.

00:27:37.000 Some of that shit leaks through and shit.

00:27:38.000 So I'm like, you see like these crazy designer crazy bullshit.

00:27:42.000 Do you wear Yeezys?

00:27:43.000 I have a couple pairs, but I don't really wear them that much.

00:27:46.000 Thank you.

00:27:47.000 I'm more of a Jordan guy.

00:27:49.000 You ever thought about lighting them on fire?

00:27:52.000 Sometimes, like, when I, you know, the dude's kind of batshit crazy.

00:27:56.000 I actually say that on his album.

00:27:58.000 I say I'm batshit crazier than Ye and Sarah Palin.

00:28:01.000 Oh, look at this.

00:28:02.000 Yeah, that's a real thing.

00:28:04.000 Oh, good lord.

00:28:05.000 That's a real thing.

00:28:06.000 So one side has a t-shirt, and then the other thing is sewn to the front, but it looks like it's hanging there.

00:28:14.000 Yeah, it's just hanging.

00:28:15.000 It is just hanging there.

00:28:16.000 But it doesn't even look like you're wearing it.

00:28:19.000 It's stapled to the front of your shirt.

00:28:23.000 What?

00:28:23.000 Hold on.

00:28:24.000 Go back to that price.

00:28:25.000 Yeah, $1,300.

00:28:26.000 $1,300?

00:28:28.000 That's what I was saying.

00:28:28.000 That's worse than the t-shirt.

00:28:30.000 I'm going to buy one right now.

00:28:31.000 Oh my god.

00:28:32.000 $1,300.

00:28:34.000 Wow.

00:28:35.000 For that.

00:28:35.000 Did you see Kanye jumped on the table at a university?

00:28:39.000 Was he talking about leaving Elon Musk alone?

00:28:42.000 That dude's lost his mind, man.

00:28:44.000 What's going on?

00:28:44.000 I don't know, man.

00:28:46.000 You know, there's a lot of people that speculate, and that's all I would say this is from me.

00:28:50.000 But ever since that man's mother died, he's been on a downward spiral, like, losing his shit.

00:28:55.000 I think he's suffering from some serious mental shit.

00:28:59.000 No bullshit.

00:28:59.000 He did get into a serious car accident, right?

00:29:02.000 Broke his jaw.

00:29:03.000 He was seriously injured.

00:29:05.000 A few years before that.

00:29:06.000 That is not a joke.

00:29:08.000 No.

00:29:09.000 Like brain trauma and...

00:29:10.000 Listen, I'm not a doctor or anything remotely related to one, but I've been around a lot of people who've been hit in the head a lot.

00:29:17.000 That shit's real.

00:29:19.000 Like, that will change your brain chemistry.

00:29:22.000 It's 100% legit.

00:29:24.000 Like, getting hit in the head is no bueno.

00:29:26.000 And car accidents will fuck people up forever.

00:29:29.000 Some people.

00:29:30.000 Some people are okay.

00:29:31.000 They recover.

00:29:32.000 Boy, there's a lot of people that come back from some significant head trauma and just, they're scrambled, man.

00:29:38.000 And he might be one of those.

00:29:39.000 And it also might be what I talked about in my last special, Triggered.

00:29:43.000 But you live with crazy bitches long enough.

00:29:45.000 I remember that.

00:29:47.000 Something happens.

00:29:48.000 You were talking about the soul-stealing succubi.

00:29:52.000 It might be true.

00:29:54.000 Dude, that was an amazing routine, I gotta tell you.

00:29:57.000 Well, I was trying to figure out a way that I'd get away with making fun of Bruce Jenner without being called transphobic.

00:30:03.000 I had to go a circuitous route.

00:30:05.000 It was brilliant.

00:30:06.000 I had to go a long route, but I had to drag Kanye in there, too.

00:30:09.000 I had to drag Kanye in there, too.

00:30:11.000 I had to drag Kanye in there, too.

00:30:13.000 Dude, drag every male that's gone into that circle into it.

00:30:18.000 Every one.

00:30:18.000 Every single one.

00:30:19.000 We lost them all.

00:30:19.000 It's spectacular.

00:30:20.000 Spooky.

00:30:20.000 Lamar Odom was like a world champion basketball player, dude.

00:30:25.000 He just got cracked out.

00:30:27.000 Reggie Bush, what happened to him?

00:30:28.000 Reggie Bush got wise and fucking bailed.

00:30:32.000 He's got my old car.

00:30:34.000 Reggie Bush has my 1970 Barracuda.

00:30:37.000 Is that right?

00:30:37.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:30:38.000 I sold it to this other dude and this other dude sold it to Reggie and he drives around that car.

00:30:42.000 It's a dope car.

00:30:43.000 That is a dope car.

00:30:45.000 Yeah, so he's got some taste.

00:30:47.000 And he got wise.

00:30:48.000 Weird things are going on over there, man.

00:30:50.000 He smashed and bolted.

00:30:51.000 That's how you do it.

00:30:52.000 And he smashed before the fake ass came into the picture, too.

00:30:56.000 That's another phenomenon I don't even understand.

00:30:59.000 Diaper butt.

00:31:00.000 It's like, well, I like a nice round butt.

00:31:03.000 You know what I mean?

00:31:04.000 I like a real one.

00:31:05.000 There's my car.

00:31:06.000 There's Reggie Bush driving it.

00:31:07.000 Well, it's not my car.

00:31:08.000 It's his now.

00:31:10.000 Look at that, Reggie.

00:31:12.000 You glorious bastard.

00:31:13.000 You had her first.

00:31:15.000 Yeah, not a really good car.

00:31:17.000 Really good car to look at.

00:31:19.000 That's a reference.

00:31:19.000 How to get rid of it.

00:31:20.000 Oh yeah, that's the Ray J song, right?

00:31:25.000 I didn't even realize that.

00:31:26.000 I was just making an innuendo.

00:31:29.000 Right.

00:31:29.000 But there you go.

00:31:30.000 Full circle.

00:31:31.000 You wouldn't want to take second place to Reggie Bush, too.

00:31:33.000 That guy is built like a brick shithouse.

00:31:35.000 You know he was smashing that.

00:31:37.000 Right?

00:31:38.000 Whatever damage he did to that, he probably was like a car accident.

00:31:41.000 Maybe all that fake ass shit came after him.

00:31:44.000 You get hit by that dude?

00:31:46.000 I read she used to wake up before him and get hot towels ready and put his toothpaste on his toothbrush.

00:31:51.000 Smart.

00:31:51.000 Yeah.

00:31:52.000 Treat him like a king.

00:31:53.000 Yeah.

00:31:55.000 Probably just smashed it.

00:31:57.000 She's probably all day just delirious, just from all the orgasms, just walking around, bumping into walls and shit.

00:32:06.000 This is a picture of him and her by the pool, and you look at him and you go, that guy must be just smashing that.

00:32:12.000 He's a super athlete.

00:32:13.000 I mean, that guy is built like a fucking superhero.

00:32:16.000 All of them, that's all they really date.

00:32:19.000 Yeah, right?

00:32:20.000 For the most part.

00:32:21.000 Yeah.

00:32:21.000 Except Kanye.

00:32:24.000 Yeah.

00:32:24.000 You need to settle down.

00:32:25.000 Catch your breath.

00:32:26.000 And he came behind a basketball player, too, right there, right?

00:32:29.000 That's right.

00:32:29.000 That basketball player, too.

00:32:30.000 That dude who was on the show all the time.

00:32:32.000 That guy was on the show all the time.

00:32:33.000 Yeah.

00:32:35.000 Crazy.

00:32:35.000 I can't even see living your life out there in fucking public, just every fucking bit of your business.

00:32:41.000 Oh, that would be a nightmare to me.

00:32:42.000 Well, it's also not interesting, but yet edited so well that you just go slack jaw and you just watch.

00:32:49.000 They switch from one scene to another quick enough so that you keep watching it, and when it's over, nothing happened.

00:32:55.000 Nothing.

00:32:55.000 And you're like, what the fuck did I do with my hour?

00:32:58.000 You gave it to them, and they advertised like 18 products that they got paid for.

00:33:03.000 And they made a fucking ass load of money.

00:33:06.000 When you find out how much that family has made, you just go, wait, wait, wait, what?

00:33:09.000 What?

00:33:11.000 It's amazing.

00:33:12.000 Yeah.

00:33:13.000 Can't hate.

00:33:14.000 Can't hate.

00:33:15.000 You shouldn't.

00:33:15.000 You should make fun.

00:33:16.000 Make fun all day.

00:33:17.000 Yeah, make fun all day.

00:33:18.000 Please.

00:33:19.000 That's our God-given right.

00:33:21.000 When you get that much money, if I get that much money, I can't even get mad no matter how much fun you make of me, no matter what I do.

00:33:29.000 I could be a saint, you still could make fun of me because I got that much money.

00:33:34.000 That's just the way it goes.

00:33:35.000 Yeah, and you want to talk about someone out there.

00:33:39.000 Those fucking people are out there.

00:33:41.000 They got everything out there.

00:33:42.000 Yeah, they're living like performance art.

00:33:46.000 They're like living in a giant glass house on a pedestal in the middle of a city.

00:33:52.000 That's where all that comes from, though.

00:33:53.000 It's like, you know, the fake asses and all that.

00:33:55.000 You got to keep the spectacle alive almost, you know what I mean?

00:33:59.000 If it's not a spectacle, it's not interesting, like you're saying.

00:34:03.000 Yeah, they have to keep changing things.

00:34:04.000 If it's not an absolute spectacle to the vision...

00:34:07.000 Your brain will catch on to my favorite word, fuckery.

00:34:12.000 Yeah, I love that word too.

00:34:13.000 It's my favorite word.

00:34:14.000 It's a great word.

00:34:15.000 It really is like a great...

00:34:18.000 First of all, it's a word that you can get away with no matter what.

00:34:20.000 It's not a word that eventually you won't be able to use anymore.

00:34:24.000 Fuckery is just going to be around forever.

00:34:26.000 And it is perfect for nonsense.

00:34:30.000 Yeah.

00:34:31.000 I've been...

00:34:31.000 My English friends for years were saying fuckery.

00:34:34.000 That's the thing.

00:34:35.000 It's only recently catching on over here.

00:34:38.000 Yeah.

00:34:38.000 Really?

00:34:39.000 In the last, like, you know, 10 years.

00:34:41.000 I'm talking about since the 80s, I've been hearing fuckery.

00:34:43.000 I'm trying to figure out when I started using it.

00:34:44.000 I started using it in regards to martial arts, like fake martial arts.

00:34:48.000 I use it in all kinds of cities.

00:34:50.000 You can use it lightheartedly.

00:34:51.000 You can use it seriously.

00:34:53.000 Yeah, it works with everything.

00:34:54.000 It's as versatile as just plain old fuck.

00:34:56.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:57.000 Steve Maxwell, that's where I got it from.

00:34:59.000 I started using it with Steve Maxwell.

00:35:01.000 He was describing some fake martial arts, talking about...

00:35:04.000 Because, you know, Steve's a black belt in jujitsu, and he's like, yeah, it's a lot of fuckery.

00:35:08.000 And I was like, ooh, I like that word.

00:35:10.000 It's a great word.

00:35:11.000 That's a word I'm going to keep using.

00:35:13.000 I just looked it up to see if there's a good definition, and it says it's also a definition for, another word for a brothel.

00:35:19.000 A fuckery?

00:35:20.000 A fuckery.

00:35:21.000 Holy shit.

00:35:23.000 Dude, you just, like, opened my brain in a new way.

00:35:26.000 Of course.

00:35:28.000 I was like, duh.

00:35:30.000 Of course they call it a fuckery.

00:35:31.000 Are you going to the fuckery?

00:35:32.000 Yeah.

00:35:35.000 Yeah, like a brewery, a fuckery.

00:35:39.000 Oh, that's too good.

00:35:40.000 Oh, that's hilarious.

00:35:41.000 That never would have dawned on me had you not just told me that.

00:35:44.000 A brothel, vulgar slang, uncountable sexual intercourse.

00:35:48.000 What?

00:35:49.000 It means that which is fucked up.

00:35:51.000 That which is fucked up is...

00:35:54.000 That one just fucked up.

00:35:55.000 It's a hilarious definition.

00:35:58.000 It is a fuckery.

00:36:00.000 That is hilarious.

00:36:01.000 A fuckery.

00:36:03.000 I had only used it in its verb form.

00:36:06.000 It's actually a noun.

00:36:08.000 There is a fuckery.

00:36:10.000 A fuckery.

00:36:10.000 A place.

00:36:11.000 A place where you can get your fuckery on.

00:36:14.000 Dude, that's brand new.

00:36:14.000 That's like literally brand new.

00:36:16.000 The translation into French, I guess, is what it says.

00:36:19.000 Oh!

00:36:21.000 French.

00:36:21.000 They figured out a lot of shit.

00:36:23.000 Have you ever been to Paris?

00:36:24.000 Oh, I love Paris.

00:36:25.000 It's one of my favorite cities.

00:36:26.000 Did you ever go to that place underneath that has all the skeletons?

00:36:28.000 No, I have not been to the catacombs.

00:36:30.000 Friends of mine have gone, though.

00:36:31.000 Yeah, I want to go, man.

00:36:33.000 I want to go and see that.

00:36:34.000 Yeah, you can get tours and all kinds of shit like that.

00:36:36.000 What was that?

00:36:37.000 The people that died in the plague?

00:36:38.000 Is that what it is?

00:36:39.000 I think so.

00:36:40.000 And they just buried them?

00:36:41.000 Yeah, you know, the church put them all in the catacombs.

00:36:47.000 Do you know at one time Paris had a wolf problem and people were getting killed by wolves?

00:36:52.000 In recent history?

00:36:54.000 1400s.

00:36:54.000 Oh, okay.

00:36:55.000 Look at that.

00:36:55.000 Wow, look at those pictures, all those skulls.

00:36:58.000 Yeah, there's a crazy story about the wolves.

00:37:00.000 I have been to a place that, whenever I see pictures of this, it reminds me, there's a place in, I want to say, what country is Prague?

00:37:06.000 The Czech Republic?

00:37:07.000 I think it's called Kutna Hora.

00:37:10.000 K-U-T-N-A-H-O-R-A. It's like a church that's built of, like, Thousands of people's skeletons, man.

00:37:19.000 It's crazy.

00:37:20.000 Yeah, there it is, dude.

00:37:21.000 That place is bananas, man.

00:37:24.000 Did you go to that, too?

00:37:25.000 Oh, no, I've been there.

00:37:26.000 I haven't been to the catacombs.

00:37:27.000 I'm saying whenever I see pictures of the catacombs, but this place, it's like an entire church decorated, and then they have little dens of places, like altars.

00:37:35.000 It's like thousands and thousands.

00:37:36.000 Those are like vertebrae.

00:37:37.000 Those are spines.

00:37:38.000 Oh, no.

00:37:39.000 There's another one where it's like all spines.

00:37:40.000 Skull chandeliers.

00:37:42.000 Whoa!

00:37:43.000 It's crazy.

00:37:44.000 That is bananas.

00:37:45.000 It's nutty.

00:37:45.000 Kuntna Ora.

00:37:46.000 And it's, you know, you can just go there and I think you pay like a couple of whatever euros and you can walk in there.

00:37:52.000 I got tons of flicks in there.

00:37:54.000 It's weird when you go to those places and you realize these places are fat.

00:37:57.000 Like, I was in Italy and there was a church that I went to and there was this glass floor.

00:38:03.000 The church was over a thousand years old.

00:38:05.000 And there's a glass floor that you walk on.

00:38:07.000 Below the glass floor is the old church that the thousand-year-old church was built on.

00:38:13.000 They have no idea how old the old church is.

00:38:15.000 That's crazy.

00:38:16.000 Yeah.

00:38:17.000 Which church was it?

00:38:18.000 It's in Ravello.

00:38:19.000 It's at the top of, like, there's a bunch of cute little shops and little hotels and shit out there.

00:38:27.000 Just want to make sure I check it out.

00:38:28.000 And there's a small church there.

00:38:29.000 Yeah, it's...

00:38:30.000 The church that you could visit is more than a thousand years old.

00:38:34.000 I put a picture on my Instagram of this crazy picture of what they thought a whale looked like.

00:38:39.000 It was a story of, you know, who was the dude who got eaten by the whale in the Bible?

00:38:44.000 Jonah.

00:38:45.000 Jonah and the whale.

00:38:46.000 And it's like in a mosaic on the wall.

00:38:49.000 But it's like what they thought a whale was.

00:38:51.000 It's like...

00:38:52.000 You know, before they had photos, some dude would, like, draw you a picture of some shit he saw.

00:38:56.000 Like, this is what a whale looks like, my friend.

00:38:58.000 And then, you know, some other dude who never saw a whale would make a mosaic of this shit and put it on the wall.

00:39:05.000 It's just so weird.

00:39:07.000 We went to the place that got fucked up by the volcano, too.

00:39:11.000 Pompeii.

00:39:12.000 Pompeii, yeah.

00:39:12.000 I've been to Pompeii.

00:39:13.000 That was fascinating, too.

00:39:15.000 It's crazy.

00:39:15.000 See people just instantly...

00:39:18.000 20 feet of ash, just covered in ash.

00:39:21.000 Just...

00:39:22.000 Can't even imagine.

00:39:23.000 Yeah.

00:39:23.000 Just one minute, nothing, and then next minute, a little earthquake.

00:39:27.000 And while you're there, you can see the volcano.

00:39:29.000 It's right there.

00:39:30.000 Still active, yeah?

00:39:31.000 I don't know.

00:39:32.000 I mean, I don't think it's had a real issue in a long time.

00:39:35.000 See if you find that Instagram picture of Jonah and the whale.

00:39:39.000 That's scary shit, man.

00:39:40.000 It's from July.

00:39:41.000 Volcanoes, man.

00:39:42.000 Hawaii.

00:39:43.000 Everything going on there.

00:39:44.000 Yeah.

00:39:44.000 That's nutty, man.

00:39:45.000 Just...

00:39:46.000 Scary.

00:39:48.000 Getting...

00:39:48.000 I read a story of, like, somebody didn't touch the lava.

00:39:51.000 They just got within, like, a couple inches of it and, like...

00:39:55.000 Burnt themselves?

00:39:55.000 Like, melted their skin, like, off.

00:39:57.000 Oh, yeah.

00:39:58.000 Yeah.

00:39:58.000 Not even getting, like, actually hit by it.

00:40:00.000 You get hit by it, your shit's dissolving.

00:40:02.000 Oh, you can cook on it.

00:40:03.000 You can slap a steak on that bitch.

00:40:05.000 It would dissolve.

00:40:07.000 No, it wouldn't.

00:40:07.000 It wouldn't.

00:40:08.000 It's not the best conductor of heat.

00:40:10.000 You know, you slap a steak on that, sear it, flip it.

00:40:14.000 They take one second.

00:40:17.000 There was some crazy chef did this where they took molten iron and they poured it down this chute.

00:40:25.000 And as it was going down the chute, they slapped steaks on it.

00:40:29.000 It was like they were cooking on this hot molten iron.

00:40:33.000 That's crazy.

00:40:33.000 Yeah.

00:40:34.000 People get bored.

00:40:35.000 I wonder if it tasted anything.

00:40:36.000 Probably tastes like shit.

00:40:38.000 Probably ruined a good steak.

00:40:39.000 Probably tastes like molten fucking whatever the fuck.

00:40:42.000 Yeah, like molten dirt.

00:40:44.000 Did you see the video of the lava consuming that Mustang?

00:40:48.000 Did you see that video?

00:40:49.000 Yes!

00:40:49.000 It just dissolved.

00:40:51.000 If you got payments and you just fucking, damn man, this car is killing me.

00:40:55.000 These payments are killing me.

00:40:56.000 Just park that bitch while that lava is coming.

00:41:00.000 In Hawaii.

00:41:01.000 Yeah.

00:41:02.000 Watch it get melted.

00:41:03.000 Set up a camera.

00:41:04.000 Can't imagine there's a lot of Mustangs over there either.

00:41:07.000 That probably is.

00:41:08.000 A lot of American cars over there.

00:41:09.000 They buy a lot of Toyotas because they don't break.

00:41:13.000 Oh, and they're small.

00:41:14.000 Yeah.

00:41:15.000 But it's also like you don't...

00:41:17.000 You know, everything has to get flown over there, so you don't want anything to break.

00:41:21.000 Super expensive, man.

00:41:22.000 Yeah, everything.

00:41:23.000 Food, housing.

00:41:24.000 Stuff is more expensive there than, like, the only other place that was comparable to me was Perth.

00:41:30.000 Really?

00:41:30.000 Well, because everything's the same difference.

00:41:33.000 It's the furthest, like, city, like, isolated by itself.

00:41:36.000 In Australia?

00:41:37.000 Yeah.

00:41:37.000 I think maybe in the world.

00:41:40.000 Really?

00:41:40.000 Like, away from any other major city.

00:41:42.000 That makes sense, right?

00:41:43.000 Because Australia is as big as the United States.

00:41:46.000 Yeah, and it's really the only major city on the West Coast that you hit.

00:41:50.000 Yeah.

00:41:50.000 How big is it?

00:41:50.000 How big is Perth?

00:41:51.000 It's like, I don't know how many people, but it's like a city, you know.

00:41:55.000 Do you perform there a lot?

00:41:56.000 Not a lot.

00:41:57.000 It's been probably almost 10 years since I've been in Australia.

00:41:59.000 I love Australia, but I do not love that fucking flight, baby.

00:42:02.000 It's tough.

00:42:03.000 Woo, that's a rough flight.

00:42:04.000 It takes a minute to get over that shit.

00:42:05.000 Yeah, you land and you're like...

00:42:09.000 Where am I? For a couple days.

00:42:11.000 There it is.

00:42:12.000 That's what they thought a whale looked like.

00:42:14.000 Like, what the fuck is that, man?

00:42:16.000 It's like a fish with a lion head.

00:42:18.000 Like, look, that's what they thought Jonah and the whale looked like.

00:42:21.000 That's hilarious.

00:42:22.000 A thousand years ago.

00:42:24.000 Strange, right?

00:42:25.000 Like, dude was trying to make a run for it, obviously.

00:42:27.000 Yeah, look at him.

00:42:28.000 Look at him.

00:42:29.000 He's like, I'm going to get the fuck away from this.

00:42:31.000 That dude kind of looks like me.

00:42:33.000 That's a little disturbing.

00:42:35.000 He's like, let me get out of here.

00:42:37.000 Bald-headed dude with a beard, trying to get away from this lion fish with wings thing.

00:42:42.000 But that's what they thought a whale was.

00:42:45.000 Craziness.

00:42:47.000 Just imagine what it was like living a thousand years ago when there was...

00:42:52.000 No pictures.

00:42:54.000 Oh, is that the glass floor?

00:42:55.000 Yeah, that's my feet right there.

00:42:56.000 So you're in this church, the church is a thousand years old, and that, go back to that last one, Jamie?

00:43:01.000 That one, that's the glass floor, and then you look down, and they have this entirely different church underneath it that's way older.

00:43:11.000 They don't know how old it is, been there forever, could be several thousand years old.

00:43:16.000 The church is gorgeous though.

00:43:18.000 There's a lot of those churches, and you've been to the Vatican, right?

00:43:21.000 Yeah.

00:43:21.000 That's the mindfuck of all mindfucks.

00:43:23.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

00:43:24.000 Like St. Peter's Basilica, and you're walking around that place, and you're just like, what?

00:43:28.000 How?

00:43:30.000 How did people do this?

00:43:31.000 It's retarded, man.

00:43:32.000 It's unbelievable.

00:43:34.000 The whole Vatican.

00:43:34.000 No power saws.

00:43:36.000 Nothing.

00:43:37.000 No fucking cranes.

00:43:39.000 Everything was like ladders and shit.

00:43:42.000 And the paintings and the art are just insane.

00:43:45.000 Stunning.

00:43:46.000 Stunning.

00:43:46.000 Billions of dollars worth of art.

00:43:48.000 And the whole area, the whole Vatican is essentially its own country.

00:43:52.000 Yeah.

00:43:52.000 So they can keep those kid fuckers over there.

00:43:54.000 And they never have to export them.

00:43:57.000 Yeah.

00:43:58.000 That's...

00:43:58.000 Yeah.

00:44:01.000 Yeah.

00:44:02.000 That's the darkest of the dark.

00:44:04.000 No argument here.

00:44:05.000 Nobody can, man.

00:44:06.000 They'll try.

00:44:07.000 People get mad.

00:44:08.000 And look, I get it.

00:44:09.000 I was a Catholic for a little bit.

00:44:12.000 That's a dark, dark institution.

00:44:14.000 There is no denying it.

00:44:15.000 I mean, they've just busted another group of priests in Pennsylvania.

00:44:19.000 Molested more than a thousand kids.

00:44:22.000 Moving them around.

00:44:23.000 Not charging them.

00:44:25.000 Organized religion in general is the biggest mind control that's ever existed.

00:44:29.000 You know, trying to control populations.

00:44:33.000 What's the best way?

00:44:34.000 Make you believe a certain thing.

00:44:36.000 You know what I mean?

00:44:36.000 But there's better ones.

00:44:39.000 There's some that you go...

00:44:40.000 Oh, for sure.

00:44:41.000 For sure.

00:44:42.000 What have the Baptists have done?

00:44:43.000 What have they done that's so terrible?

00:44:46.000 There's no Baptist scandals like that, large-scale scandals.

00:44:50.000 Even the Mormons, they've had a few dudes who wanted more than one bride.

00:44:54.000 They got greedy.

00:44:55.000 More than a few.

00:44:56.000 There's a whole part of their thing that that's how they still live.

00:45:00.000 And there's some sects that branched off and got real freaky.

00:45:09.000 On the scale that the Catholic Church has done things, it's unprecedented.

00:45:13.000 Unprecedented.

00:45:14.000 Completely.

00:45:14.000 Yeah, because they actively shield these people from prosecution.

00:45:19.000 Yeah.

00:45:19.000 And they keep it all in-house.

00:45:21.000 I mean, aren't people actually getting, like, I've heard some things like they're going after, like, cardinals and shit, like, criminally.

00:45:27.000 Well, that is why the Pope had to step down.

00:45:29.000 The last Pope had to step down because they wanted to prosecute him for crimes against humanity.

00:45:33.000 Oh yeah, because he was one of the dudes who orchestrated a lot of that stuff.

00:45:36.000 The guy right before the...

00:45:37.000 He moved a guy who went on to molest a hundred deaf children.

00:45:43.000 Yeah, I remember reading stuff about that.

00:45:45.000 It's dark, man.

00:45:46.000 It's very dark.

00:46:13.000 I was raised Catholic.

00:46:15.000 I just, by the time I was like, they did this thing called confirmation, which is sort of like a similar thing to the time that you're becoming a man, you're making your own choices.

00:46:25.000 An adult, because it wasn't just men, but...

00:46:28.000 By the time I did that and realized, okay, there's a little too much magic going on for me.

00:46:37.000 I like factual, knowledgeable things.

00:46:42.000 If these people really existed, what were they really like?

00:46:46.000 I'm not buying into the fact that anybody on this earth didn't take a shit like I took a shit.

00:46:52.000 We all take the same shits.

00:46:54.000 It'd be nice if someone came up with a good religion, a real solid Lockdown one.

00:46:59.000 I mean, there is one.

00:47:00.000 I mean, we all just would have to agree on it.

00:47:03.000 How about just the golden rule?

00:47:06.000 You know what I mean?

00:47:06.000 That could basically be a religion in itself.

00:47:08.000 The church of universal law.

00:47:10.000 You know, do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

00:47:13.000 And you could hold corporations to that.

00:47:15.000 You could be like, all right, what's more powerful than 10 million people on a Facebook page that are...

00:47:26.000 That's a good point.

00:47:38.000 There you go.

00:47:39.000 And did it as a law, right?

00:47:41.000 And then we held people accountable to that.

00:47:44.000 Yeah.

00:47:45.000 You are not responding to the universal law, the universal golden rule.

00:47:49.000 You know, it sounds super simple, but I mean, it took a lot of work, but the principle is simple.

00:47:54.000 Right.

00:47:54.000 And all the other stuff, like all other forms of commerce and everything else would still fall under that.

00:47:59.000 Just like you could do whatever you want as long as you're treating people kindly.

00:48:03.000 Exactly.

00:48:03.000 Like ideally commerce and capitalism, all that stuff should be real simple.

00:48:08.000 Like you have a great CD. You want to sell it.

00:48:11.000 You want 20 bucks for it.

00:48:13.000 Somebody gives you 20 bucks.

00:48:14.000 They're happy.

00:48:15.000 You're happy.

00:48:16.000 That should be commerce, right?

00:48:18.000 Yeah.

00:48:18.000 It should be you sell something, people buy it, everybody's good.

00:48:22.000 But then you Greedy.

00:48:24.000 You know, like, if we can figure out a way to corner this market and keep other people from selling this or selling that, or we've got to stop people from growing this, because if they grow this and sell that, then we...

00:48:34.000 No, you're not doing what's best for...

00:48:36.000 Yes.

00:48:36.000 You're not doing what you would want them to do to you.

00:48:39.000 Exactly.

00:48:39.000 So you're breaking the law.

00:48:41.000 Violation of the golden rule.

00:48:42.000 If, you know...

00:48:44.000 I've thought about it, obviously, before.

00:48:46.000 Like, hey, man, what would be...

00:48:47.000 And I'm like, yeah, that'd be a really cool thing to do.

00:48:50.000 That would be the way.

00:48:52.000 Somebody with enough charisma could pull it off and get people to get behind it.

00:48:56.000 That's really all it would take, is people getting behind it.

00:48:59.000 Yeah, but the problem is there's so many people that just...

00:49:02.000 We're seeing this with politics, right?

00:49:04.000 Like, I'm fascinated by these Kavanaugh hearings.

00:49:07.000 Like, I watch little clips of it before I just have to tune out and get the fuck away from it.

00:49:11.000 Talk about fuckery.

00:49:12.000 Talk about fuckery.

00:49:14.000 I mean, I don't know what that dude did or what he didn't do, but I think what's happening is more than that.

00:49:19.000 What's happening is, first of all, he was a big part of the Patriot Act.

00:49:27.000 He's involved in some issues that a lot of people are very concerned with in terms of his position and his stance on privacy and on rights.

00:49:37.000 Absolutely.

00:49:38.000 There's more to it than just, did you fuck with someone in high school?

00:49:43.000 Did you sexually assault someone?

00:49:44.000 Did you do that when you were 18?

00:49:45.000 Do you remember?

00:49:46.000 There's more to it than that.

00:49:49.000 They don't want that guy in there.

00:49:51.000 And then you're seeing all the people that want to pretend that he's the best guy ever and all the people...

00:49:56.000 It's craziness, man.

00:49:58.000 It's fascinating.

00:49:59.000 It's really fascinating.

00:50:00.000 It's fascinating to watch because it's essentially like a...

00:50:04.000 a less like the the Clarence Thomas hearings from was it like the 1980s I believe the Clarence Thomas I feel like that was late 80s early 90s yeah somewhere around there Clarence Thomas that was like with Anita Hill where he had sexually harassed her they were working together and she came on the whatever coke or something do you know that he's now the longest-running member of the Supreme Court He's now been in the Supreme Court longer,

00:50:33.000 I think.

00:50:34.000 I read that.

00:50:35.000 Check to make sure that's true.

00:50:36.000 Isn't Ruth Bader Ginsburg, how did she be on there longer?

00:50:40.000 Longest serving, 26 years as of October 4th.

00:50:43.000 He will be.

00:50:44.000 He will be, yeah.

00:50:45.000 Crazy.

00:50:46.000 Crazy.

00:50:47.000 Yeah, so it didn't work.

00:50:49.000 Neat as hell's out there living with the memory of pubic errors on Coke.

00:50:54.000 I had a movie now, an HBO movie not too long ago.

00:50:57.000 Oh yeah!

00:50:58.000 Did you watch it?

00:50:58.000 I saw it.

00:50:59.000 Was it okay?

00:51:00.000 It was a pretty good movie.

00:51:02.000 We lived through it, so it's like whenever I see movies about the OJ trial or something, I'm like, we saw it live for like 700 days.

00:51:11.000 I'm always fascinated by those movies because of creative license.

00:51:15.000 Like if you do a movie on Richard Nixon, right?

00:51:17.000 Are you sure he said that?

00:51:19.000 Or even crazier, you do a movie on Lincoln.

00:51:21.000 Bitch, you don't know what the fuck he said.

00:51:23.000 You can't possibly, unless he wrote it down.

00:51:25.000 Yeah, you're having him say a bunch of shit day to day, talking to his wife and kids.

00:51:29.000 You don't know what the fuck he said.

00:51:31.000 That's pretty funny.

00:51:31.000 You're just making this up.

00:51:33.000 This is weird that we're allowed to do that.

00:51:34.000 You're allowed to just put some words in George Washington's mouth.

00:51:37.000 Like, you don't know what the fuck George Washington said.

00:51:40.000 You know?

00:51:41.000 Have you seen this movie coming out?

00:51:43.000 Yes.

00:51:43.000 Christian Bale's Dick Cheney.

00:51:44.000 Dude, it looks amazing.

00:51:46.000 Steve Carell's Donald Rumsfeld.

00:51:48.000 Christian Bale is a fucking bad motherfucker.

00:51:51.000 His acting as Dick Cheney is off the charts.

00:51:54.000 I mean, he does the voice.

00:51:56.000 He got fat for it.

00:51:58.000 Everything.

00:51:59.000 That's him.

00:52:00.000 Whoa.

00:52:01.000 Dude.

00:52:02.000 There's the video of, first of all, him and Sam Rockwell as George Bush.

00:52:08.000 He's amazing, too.

00:52:10.000 Sam Rockwell is one of the most underappreciated actors.

00:52:14.000 What's the name of this movie?

00:52:14.000 Vice.

00:52:15.000 Vice.

00:52:16.000 It's amazing, dude.

00:52:18.000 Sam Rockwell nails it as George Bush.

00:52:20.000 Here, play the trailer.

00:52:21.000 Will they pull us?

00:52:22.000 It's too new.

00:52:23.000 You gotta pull us, but I'll let you guys see it.

00:52:24.000 Son of a bitch.

00:52:25.000 Let me turn it up.

00:52:28.000 Folks who are listening to this on YouTube, we can't play this for you, but...

00:52:33.000 I mean...

00:52:34.000 That's weird.

00:52:37.000 They wouldn't want you to, like, play their trailer.

00:52:39.000 Well, they want everybody to go to their trailer.

00:52:41.000 True.

00:52:42.000 Oh, yeah, it streams.

00:52:43.000 That shit makes...

00:52:43.000 Yeah.

00:52:44.000 Yeah.

00:52:44.000 You're right.

00:52:50.000 It's just so good.

00:52:52.000 He just does an amazing job of the voice, the mannerisms, and so does Sam Rockwell.

00:52:58.000 Yeah, well, they're both incredible actors.

00:53:00.000 Sam Rockwell's a badass.

00:53:01.000 Did you ever see Sam Rockwell in that movie, The Moon?

00:53:03.000 Is it The Moon or Moon?

00:53:05.000 I'm not sure.

00:53:07.000 It's a movie where he is the only person in the movie.

00:53:10.000 The entire movie is him.

00:53:12.000 I don't want to spoiler alert it, but it has to do with cloning.

00:53:16.000 And it's him on the moon, like him or him in space.

00:53:22.000 It's fucking amazing.

00:53:24.000 It's an amazing movie.

00:53:25.000 And it's just him.

00:53:26.000 I love where he was Chuck Beres.

00:53:27.000 Yes!

00:53:28.000 That was an amazing movie, man.

00:53:30.000 Dude, he's a beast.

00:53:31.000 This guy is a fucking incredible actor, and he just doesn't get enough credit.

00:53:36.000 I think he might be married to her now, or maybe they're still dating, but he was dating Leslie Bibb when I did a movie with her.

00:53:47.000 I got a chance to meet him, and I was a little bit starstruck.

00:53:50.000 I'm a big, giant fan of that guy.

00:53:52.000 But he's one of those guys that I feel like I want to say, like, dude, you're fucking amazing.

00:53:56.000 Like, I don't know if anybody's telling you, because you're fucking amazing.

00:53:59.000 Because it's like, you know, you hear about the great actors.

00:54:01.000 You hear Daniel Day-Lewis.

00:54:03.000 You hear Gary Oldman.

00:54:05.000 You know, you hear Christian Bale.

00:54:07.000 You hear the great actors.

00:54:10.000 Faye Dunaway, Sigourney Weavner.

00:54:12.000 You don't hear about Sam Rockwell.

00:54:15.000 Why not, Jamie?

00:54:16.000 Why not, goddammit?

00:54:18.000 Maybe you will after this movie.

00:54:20.000 Maybe.

00:54:21.000 I feel like he's never been nominated for anything.

00:54:24.000 Probably was.

00:54:26.000 Probably was for Moon.

00:54:27.000 He was nominated for a few things.

00:54:30.000 The one that just came out last year, the Three Billboards.

00:54:32.000 Oh, yeah.

00:54:33.000 That's what I was thinking.

00:54:34.000 I just remember hearing about him.

00:54:37.000 He's just one of them dudes, too.

00:54:39.000 When you're that good of an actor, you blend into these movies so good, it's not Sam Walkwell.

00:54:45.000 You know what I mean?

00:54:46.000 That's almost a compliment to the dude.

00:54:48.000 Now, should he be more of the leading guy in doing those big roles?

00:54:52.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:54:52.000 He's an amazing actor.

00:54:53.000 But he's done some really big things, man.

00:54:56.000 He's one of them dudes that just blends too good.

00:54:58.000 You know who's another one like that?

00:54:59.000 Viggo Mortensen.

00:55:00.000 Yes!

00:55:02.000 Everything he's in, you just lose it.

00:55:03.000 He's in it.

00:55:04.000 He's that guy.

00:55:06.000 Yeah.

00:55:07.000 The one where he was the Eastern Promises.

00:55:10.000 Yes.

00:55:10.000 That was a good one.

00:55:11.000 The Russian Mob movie?

00:55:12.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:55:13.000 Yes.

00:55:13.000 And then what?

00:55:14.000 The Year of Violence that he did?

00:55:15.000 That was a good one, too.

00:55:16.000 That was a good one.

00:55:17.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:55:18.000 The Road freaked me out.

00:55:19.000 I had turned it off when he was teaching his son how to shoot himself in the mouth.

00:55:22.000 I was like, done.

00:55:23.000 We're good.

00:55:24.000 I don't need to watch this.

00:55:25.000 I'll watch The Flintstones.

00:55:26.000 That book is fucking crazy.

00:55:27.000 That's what I heard.

00:55:28.000 Yeah.

00:55:28.000 I heard the book's too crazy.

00:55:29.000 Dark, man.

00:55:31.000 It's one of those things, it's like...

00:55:33.000 It's a taste that stays with you a little too long.

00:55:36.000 You want it to go away.

00:55:37.000 Yeah, there's a few of those movies that are just so depressing.

00:55:40.000 When you leave, you're like, what did I do?

00:55:42.000 Like, I don't want to be depressed.

00:55:44.000 I know that it was good.

00:55:45.000 I know you nailed it.

00:55:47.000 I know you dragged my emotions through the mud.

00:55:49.000 I played myself once on tour.

00:55:50.000 It was like back when the Tower Records and those things were still around.

00:55:55.000 Like on Tuesdays, the movies and the records would all come out.

00:55:57.000 So we were on tour.

00:55:58.000 We would stop and buy a bunch of shit for the bus, buy records.

00:56:01.000 I bought a bunch of movies and I threw on Magnolia had just come out.

00:56:05.000 I watched that and I was like, oh wow, that was fucking fucked up.

00:56:10.000 And then without looking, I just grabbed the next movie and put it in, and it was Titus Andronicus.

00:56:15.000 And I don't know if you're hip to this.

00:56:16.000 It's like one of the darkest fucking Shakespeare fucking plays ever about this.

00:56:20.000 I mean, if you ain't seen it, when you got the wherewithal to sit through some real fucking darkness, Anthony Hopkins is fucking insane in this movie as Titus Andronicus.

00:56:31.000 It's fucking dark.

00:56:33.000 So I watched these two movies back to back, and for two weeks, Joe, I can't shake the, like, just...

00:56:40.000 Depressing, like, oh my god, there's no happy endings anywhere.

00:56:44.000 From then on, I'll only watch comedies and fucking Pixar movies and old Warner Brothers cartoons out there on the road, man.

00:56:55.000 Is he eating dinner while people are hanging in front of him?

00:56:58.000 Do you want to know?

00:56:59.000 You're never going to watch this, right?

00:57:00.000 He's about to cut them up and make dinner out of them and serve them to their families.

00:57:05.000 It's dark, man.

00:57:07.000 It's dark.

00:57:08.000 It's really dark.

00:57:10.000 It is the darkest Shakespeare-like thing I've ever read or seen.

00:57:16.000 Okay.

00:57:16.000 That's enough.

00:57:17.000 And that was right after Magnolia.

00:57:19.000 I watched that.

00:57:20.000 Man, a double whammy.

00:57:21.000 Double whammy, dude.

00:57:23.000 Oh, it was horrible.

00:57:24.000 Remember that movie, 21 Grams?

00:57:26.000 Yeah.

00:57:26.000 That movie swore me off at depressing movies.

00:57:28.000 After that movie was over, I left the theater.

00:57:30.000 I'm like, why did I do that to myself?

00:57:32.000 Yeah.

00:57:32.000 I was in such a good mood.

00:57:33.000 Yeah, who wants to leave a place with that feeling?

00:57:37.000 Doesn't life give you that enough?

00:57:38.000 I was all happy.

00:57:40.000 I was all happy, feeling good.

00:57:42.000 I walked into that movie and I left going, what in the actual fuck?

00:57:46.000 What am I doing here?

00:57:47.000 As DJ Khaled would say, you played yourself.

00:57:50.000 Played myself, yeah.

00:57:53.000 Other people said it before him, but he's like known for it.

00:57:56.000 It's funny how that happens, right?

00:57:58.000 Where a dude just says something just right.

00:58:01.000 And then everybody just connects it to him.

00:58:03.000 He had a string of them.

00:58:04.000 He had a bunch of his little, you know, men of meeting, you know, he's got the New Deal alerts.

00:58:09.000 He's a bastion of these little sayings that just people catch on to.

00:58:16.000 He's got a lot of good things going for him.

00:58:18.000 He's unthreatening looking because he's kind of a big chubby guy.

00:58:20.000 People like him because of that.

00:58:22.000 You know, there's a lot of good things going.

00:58:24.000 Positive energy.

00:58:26.000 You know what I mean?

00:58:27.000 A lot of energy.

00:58:28.000 Likes shiny flashy shit that a lot of other people like.

00:58:32.000 Yeah.

00:58:33.000 And he can afford it.

00:58:34.000 Yeah.

00:58:34.000 That's nice.

00:58:35.000 Hashtag ballin'.

00:58:36.000 Yeah.

00:58:37.000 Gotta do it.

00:58:38.000 Yeah, I guess so.

00:58:39.000 He's part of that lifestyle.

00:58:41.000 That's a crazy lifestyle.

00:58:43.000 Kanye's a part of that lifestyle too, right?

00:58:45.000 But in a weird way.

00:58:46.000 He's a weird part of that lifestyle.

00:58:48.000 He's never been on that jewelry scene.

00:58:50.000 But he's big on design and Ferraris and Lamborghinis and beautiful houses and shit like that.

00:58:57.000 I'm not that aware of what he...

00:59:00.000 Yeah, design.

00:59:01.000 I know just from what I know of him that he longs to be Ralph Lauren.

00:59:07.000 That's really his...

00:59:09.000 Probably if you said who is your biggest influencer, who would you want to be?

00:59:14.000 Ralph Lauren.

00:59:15.000 Yeah, that's kind of hilarious.

00:59:17.000 But he just loves design, right?

00:59:19.000 Loves clothes.

00:59:20.000 I guess.

00:59:22.000 Yeah, I mean, why not?

00:59:23.000 Somebody's gotta.

00:59:24.000 I mean, he, you know, a lot of that stuff he was doing was looking like homeless people's clothing, you know, too.

00:59:29.000 It was like derelict right out of fucking Soolander.

00:59:32.000 Did you see that one picture that Jamie showed me?

00:59:34.000 He was walking around with slides, Yeezy slides on, but they were like four sizes too small.

00:59:39.000 It didn't make any sense.

00:59:41.000 His heels hanging off the back of them.

00:59:43.000 That's the way he designed them.

00:59:44.000 Exactly.

00:59:45.000 That's like he's probably trying to push a new thing.

00:59:47.000 Yeah, he's like, here.

00:59:48.000 Tiny Yeezy slides.

00:59:49.000 Too small for your feet.

00:59:51.000 Two small Yeezy slides.

00:59:52.000 There you go.

00:59:53.000 Yeah, that's the new look.

00:59:55.000 Like, you know, if you're crazy, you might think things like that.

00:59:58.000 It's crazy to me because there's an era of his career that I look at and I'm like, wow, man, there's a lot of genius shit he was doing musically.

01:00:05.000 A lot of records he was doing.

01:00:07.000 And then I don't know what it is, but to me now, And I don't say this really in a judgmental way, but he's a professional troll now.

01:00:17.000 Just like that's the most successful people in the entertainment business now, if you're not an amazing actor or a super amazing, you know, whatever, is like just keeping people trolling.

01:00:27.000 I remember he literally dropped a song like at some point like eight months ago where that was like poopity scoop.

01:00:32.000 Scoopity poopity boop.

01:00:35.000 And that was the song.

01:00:36.000 It lasted that long.

01:00:37.000 Yeah, Jamie came and played for me where he told me the lyrics and I told him to shut the fuck up.

01:00:42.000 No, but it's like, it's again, it's the spectacle.

01:00:45.000 Get that away from me, Jamie.

01:00:46.000 You stop putting this evil in my head.

01:00:47.000 It's the spectacle.

01:00:48.000 Like, I mean, I made this album here.

01:00:50.000 That's music.

01:00:51.000 You know what I mean?

01:00:52.000 This is music.

01:00:52.000 A lot of people don't give a fuck anymore.

01:00:54.000 Well, you're not that guy.

01:00:55.000 You've never been a, I need publicity guy.

01:00:58.000 Never.

01:00:59.000 Here's what it is.

01:00:59.000 Here's what that is.

01:01:00.000 It's like people like to fucking speculate about what I do or my career.

01:01:04.000 You know what I mean?

01:01:06.000 I've written a few songs in this life that I could go somewhere and sit down and just sit on a fucking stump and eat food for the rest of my life and never worry.

01:01:14.000 I could feed my family and all that off of a few songs.

01:01:17.000 I make music because I love making music.

01:01:20.000 Of course, you want people to listen.

01:01:22.000 You want more people to listen.

01:01:24.000 I'm not saying I don't want fame or all that.

01:01:27.000 One of the first things, the first time I ever came on your podcast was I like going to Ralph's And sitting at the olive bar and fucking getting my olives while my song's playing on the radio and the guy standing right next to me has no fucking idea.

01:01:42.000 I don't mind that at all.

01:01:43.000 That doesn't bother me.

01:01:44.000 I love it.

01:01:45.000 Yeah, you're not a need attention kind of a guy and some people are and that's sort of part of their business like this whole Kanye Donald Trump thing I just I wonder if that's trolling but I also wonder if what we were talking about earlier about car accidents and brain damage I wonder if that's a little bit of everything but also the reason I Say it's trolling is because there's Likes and stuff,

01:02:10.000 when you get to Kardashian, Kanye West levels of...

01:02:14.000 And I'm sure you know this.

01:02:16.000 You have four fucking million Instagram followers.

01:02:19.000 I didn't start Instagram until you told me to.

01:02:21.000 I know that.

01:02:21.000 But what I'm saying is like...

01:02:25.000 You could monetize that shit really easily, those four million people.

01:02:29.000 You're not selling that shit out.

01:02:31.000 These people, they are definitely monetizing that shit.

01:02:34.000 Fucking when Kim Kardashian gets on there, she doesn't give you a commercial, but she'll tell you, oh, I'm just using this new cream on my shit.

01:02:39.000 You know what I mean?

01:02:40.000 Somebody paid her $150.

01:02:42.000 Fucking 50 grand for that post.

01:02:44.000 So the more eyes, the better.

01:02:48.000 That's really what they're monetizing.

01:02:50.000 If I had 10 million people on my Instagram, I could sell fucking posts.

01:02:54.000 The real problem with that is people don't believe them.

01:02:58.000 But their eyes are still on it.

01:02:59.000 If I say I like something, it's because I like it.

01:03:05.000 People accuse me of having ads.

01:03:06.000 I've never had a single ad on my Instagram.

01:03:09.000 If I tell people about a product and people are like, what are you doing?

01:03:12.000 Are you getting paid for this?

01:03:13.000 Like, nope.

01:03:14.000 Nope.

01:03:14.000 I just like it.

01:03:15.000 Yeah.

01:03:16.000 Sharing something I thought you might think is cool.

01:03:18.000 This is a cool product.

01:03:18.000 I've done it a few times, but I usually say, hey, I'm not getting fucking paid.

01:03:21.000 I have to now.

01:03:23.000 I do now.

01:03:23.000 I say this is not an ad.

01:03:24.000 I like this.

01:03:25.000 You know what I mean?

01:03:26.000 Plus, I ain't got enough Instagram followers to get paid.

01:03:29.000 I bet you do.

01:03:29.000 I got like 70,000 or something.

01:03:31.000 That's all you need.

01:03:32.000 Jamie was saying you need 70,000.

01:03:33.000 That's the exact number.

01:03:35.000 First of all, you know I don't give a fuck.

01:03:37.000 I know you don't give a fuck, but if you did, if you were a chick with a fake butt, you might be able to get a little chata.

01:03:41.000 I might have 4 million followers if I was a chick with a fake butt.

01:03:45.000 A little chata.

01:03:46.000 Yeah, you might, right?

01:03:47.000 You might have 20. Look at this.

01:03:48.000 Kim Kardashian's got 118 million followers.

01:03:51.000 It's just, wow.

01:03:52.000 Good googly moogly.

01:03:54.000 Okay, and let's say, what do they say?

01:03:55.000 If you're actually good at social media, maybe 10% of your audience engages you.

01:04:00.000 So that's still 10 million people that will engage with her.

01:04:05.000 That's a lot of fuck people, son.

01:04:07.000 I believe, I threw that number out there, just kind of.

01:04:09.000 That sounds about right.

01:04:11.000 Yeah.

01:04:11.000 A lot of goddamn people.

01:04:13.000 Woo!

01:04:14.000 Crazy.

01:04:15.000 Yeah, it's a weird business, man.

01:04:16.000 That's famous now.

01:04:17.000 Like when we were young, famous was, you know, if you're on TV or the radio, you know, or, you know, if you did something in life, wrote a book, wrote a play or a movie, you know what I mean?

01:04:30.000 Yeah.

01:04:31.000 Invented the plane.

01:04:33.000 And that's what got you famous.

01:04:35.000 Now you just got to keep eyes on you doing fucked up shit.

01:04:38.000 I was thinking about that today while I was watching Gladiator.

01:04:41.000 Because when I was watching that movie, I was thinking, in the Roman times, there was no accountability.

01:04:46.000 Like, for emperors, you could do all kinds of fucked up shit, and no one could do anything about it.

01:04:51.000 Either they killed you eventually, or you got away with it for a long period of time.

01:04:56.000 But today, you know, like...

01:05:00.000 There's so much accountability.

01:05:03.000 People find out what awful things you've done.

01:05:06.000 They find out you've stolen money or had people killed or took over this or dominated that.

01:05:15.000 To be a...

01:05:17.000 To be a dictator like a Kim Jong-un, someone along those lines, today you have to keep those people locked up.

01:05:24.000 And he's barely keeping that together.

01:05:26.000 They barely have an internet.

01:05:28.000 It amazes me how they can.

01:05:29.000 There's not a whole scene there of people with the internet sneaking it in.

01:05:33.000 You know what they did?

01:05:34.000 Everybody rats and everybody else there.

01:05:36.000 They have a whole system of ratting on people.

01:05:39.000 They have a culture of rats.

01:05:42.000 And they believe their leader is a god or something of that nature.

01:05:45.000 They just don't want to die, man.

01:05:47.000 They're scared and they're hungry and they don't have any power and they don't have any energy because they're eating just rice and fucking starving to death.

01:05:53.000 I can't even imagine it.

01:05:54.000 When they catch those dudes that sneak across the border, you know, that make a run for it, when they get them and bring them to hospitals and patch them up and shit, they find all these crazy parasites in them, massive malnutrition.

01:06:05.000 And these are soldiers, like North Korean soldiers.

01:06:07.000 They're just all fucked up.

01:06:09.000 But that's a window into time.

01:06:12.000 Like, if you went back into the Roman days, that's how everybody was rocking it.

01:06:17.000 They were all dominating their people and using iron fist and keep these generals well fed and keep the army well fed and use it to dominate the civilians and...

01:06:29.000 I mean, I know Gladiator is just a movie.

01:06:32.000 It's just fake and, you know, fun.

01:06:34.000 But still, you gotta wonder.

01:06:36.000 How close was that to life back then?

01:06:40.000 And how bad did it smell?

01:06:42.000 Oh!

01:06:44.000 Tubes of shit running down the street.

01:06:45.000 There used to be a show on HBO called Rome.

01:06:47.000 And they had this one scene, I remember it, where they were all in a public toilet.

01:06:52.000 A shittery?

01:06:53.000 Shittery.

01:06:54.000 Sure, shittery.

01:06:56.000 And they handed them like...

01:06:58.000 What at the time was, I guess, the toilet paper, which was like...

01:07:02.000 You know, calfskin rags or something.

01:07:04.000 And they fucking like wipe their ass and they walk out and throw it in a pile.

01:07:07.000 It's like, how could that have smelled?

01:07:09.000 If that's accurate.

01:07:11.000 If that's accurate.

01:07:12.000 You know what I mean?

01:07:12.000 Well, that looks pretty accurate.

01:07:14.000 Yeah, there it is.

01:07:15.000 Roman public toilets.

01:07:17.000 And they would go into like a tube and that tube would go right down the street.

01:07:21.000 Yeah.

01:07:22.000 Imagine how the whole city smelled, man.

01:07:24.000 Like shit.

01:07:24.000 Well, that's one of the reasons why all those people got sick.

01:07:27.000 Like when a disease would spread through the city, I mean, there was no sanitation.

01:07:30.000 It was terrible.

01:07:33.000 They didn't have like flushable things, right?

01:07:36.000 Nothing flushed.

01:07:37.000 I mean, they had developed aqueducts, so they just had a system of flowing water, but it wasn't pressurized or anything, so it just had to pick it up.

01:07:47.000 One of the things that was cool about Pompeii was they had a sauna.

01:07:50.000 They had figured out how to boil water, and then they had the water would go through the floor and the walls.

01:07:57.000 They had like double-spaced walls, so they had one outside wall and an inside wall, and the heat would go through.

01:08:04.000 And it would go like through, and so you could go into this sauna, just like a regular sauna here, and it'd be hot as fuck in there.

01:08:11.000 Yeah, there was Pompey Sauna.

01:08:13.000 That's it.

01:08:14.000 Like, they figured out how to make things pretty cool for what they had.

01:08:18.000 But fuck living back there.

01:08:20.000 But meanwhile, tell me people aren't going to think like that a thousand years from now about us.

01:08:24.000 Those dummies shitting into a ceramic bowl and then hitting the water to flush it away.

01:08:29.000 Idiots.

01:08:30.000 I can't imagine what it's going to be like.

01:08:32.000 Dude, we installed these toilets here that shoot hot water up your butt.

01:08:36.000 You know those?

01:08:37.000 Up or just cleaning it?

01:08:39.000 It can go right in the hole.

01:08:40.000 Wow.

01:08:41.000 It shoots right in that hole.

01:08:42.000 You got to be careful.

01:08:43.000 It feels like you have to take a shit because it gets up in there and you're like, oh, I have to shit again.

01:08:46.000 But no, it's just the water's literally getting through the door.

01:08:50.000 But it cleans your butthole so nice.

01:08:52.000 And after you have one of those, you're like, why would I ever use a regular toilet?

01:08:57.000 Jamie says he holds his shit.

01:08:57.000 I remember the first time I experienced one of those was like in the 90s in Japan.

01:09:01.000 Yes, Japan.

01:09:02.000 Yeah, that's why I experienced it too.

01:09:04.000 Yeah, but for me it was just a few years ago.

01:09:06.000 But Jamie says he holds his shit.

01:09:08.000 Is that correct?

01:09:08.000 Well preferred versus my home toilet.

01:09:11.000 Yeah, like why shit at home?

01:09:12.000 If you kind of have to ship, be like, I could keep this one at bay for a little bit.

01:09:18.000 Honestly, in Europe, a bidet is a normal thing in a hotel room.

01:09:22.000 It's not here as much.

01:09:23.000 It's not as good, though.

01:09:24.000 I have a bidet in my house.

01:09:25.000 I never used it once.

01:09:26.000 It's a magazine rack.

01:09:27.000 I throw magazines there.

01:09:30.000 Wash your hands.

01:09:31.000 Yeah, it's just weird.

01:09:33.000 It's weird.

01:09:34.000 It just doesn't work as good.

01:09:35.000 And I think it's more for women.

01:09:39.000 It's a cooter cleanser.

01:09:40.000 Yeah, kind of.

01:09:41.000 But here's something funny.

01:09:44.000 I just did this tour of Europe, and we started noticing, and I'm not going to name countries, because I have fans and all of them.

01:09:52.000 I don't want anyone to get upset.

01:09:53.000 But we noticed there's a different...

01:09:55.000 Of some countries, you get washcloths in your bathroom, and some countries you don't.

01:10:02.000 And me and my band came to the conclusion that from now on, whenever we come to these countries where you don't get the washcloths in your hotel room, we're not going to shake hands with people anymore.

01:10:12.000 Because why don't you have washcloths in the bathroom?

01:10:15.000 I don't get it.

01:10:16.000 Yeah, what are you washing your hands with, bro?

01:10:18.000 You can wash your hands like this.

01:10:19.000 What are you washing your arse with, man?

01:10:22.000 Shoving your hand crack up there?

01:10:23.000 What are you doing?

01:10:24.000 What are you doing?

01:10:25.000 I don't mind if you wash your face with your hands or your hands with your hands, but I can't find a washcloth in your city.

01:10:32.000 It's a little strange.

01:10:33.000 Dude, I went to Thailand this summer.

01:10:34.000 They have garden hoses attached to the toilet.

01:10:36.000 They don't fuck around with all that hot, spicy food.

01:10:39.000 They know it's going to come out messy, so they give you a goddamn garden hose to clean your asshole with.

01:10:44.000 Where is this?

01:10:44.000 Thailand!

01:10:45.000 In Thailand?

01:10:46.000 Everywhere.

01:10:46.000 Even the airport.

01:10:47.000 Went to the toilet at the airport.

01:10:49.000 Right next to the shitbox was this goddamn garden hose.

01:10:52.000 I mean like one you would wash the car with.

01:10:54.000 Like the pistol grip one.

01:10:56.000 Yeah.

01:10:57.000 And just, woo!

01:10:59.000 Just get that fucker back there and woo-woo!

01:11:02.000 There it is, right there.

01:11:03.000 Garden hose.

01:11:04.000 Bum gun.

01:11:04.000 Bum gun, they call it.

01:11:05.000 Bum gun, wow.

01:11:06.000 Toilet hose in Thailand.

01:11:08.000 Keep yourself clean with a squirt of water.

01:11:10.000 Yeah, a squirt.

01:11:12.000 That shit could move a boat across a dock.

01:11:16.000 First things first.

01:11:17.000 Yeah.

01:11:17.000 Wow, the direction our conversation's taken today.

01:11:20.000 Yeah, test the water pressure before you use it.

01:11:23.000 The British called the toilet hose the bum gun for a good reason.

01:11:26.000 The nozzle at the end of the hose is shaped a bit like a gun with a trigger that you press to release the water.

01:11:31.000 Yeah.

01:11:31.000 Wow.

01:11:32.000 Yeah, they don't fuck around in Thailand.

01:11:33.000 I haven't been to Thailand, obviously.

01:11:35.000 It's beautiful there.

01:11:36.000 People are so nice.

01:11:37.000 It's one of the friendliest places I've ever been in my life, like universally friendly.

01:11:42.000 And everybody looks at you and they all do this.

01:11:44.000 They make their hands like a lotus flower.

01:11:46.000 That's what they do.

01:11:47.000 They don't shake hands a lot.

01:11:49.000 They just touch their hands together and give you like a little bow.

01:11:52.000 Is there washcloths?

01:11:56.000 Their hands are tired from holding onto that hose, squeezing that bum gun.

01:12:01.000 Something.

01:12:04.000 But the food there is fucking amazing.

01:12:06.000 If you like Thai food, man, you learn from the way they cook it in the motherland with all those fresh ingredients.

01:12:13.000 I do love Thai food.

01:12:14.000 I love Thai food.

01:12:16.000 Are you a spicy guy?

01:12:17.000 Do you like spicy?

01:12:20.000 Sands being in Thailand, this spot, I was in a place in Melbourne, Australia, we spoke about earlier, the hottest Thai food I ever had in my life.

01:12:29.000 Like, so hot you're sweating and you can't stop eating it because the minute you stop eating it, you're gonna catch fire.

01:12:36.000 Have you ever been to Exotic Thai over on Ventura in Woodland Hills?

01:12:40.000 I feel like I have.

01:12:43.000 Super legit.

01:12:44.000 Exotic Thai.

01:12:45.000 Bunch of Thai people running.

01:12:46.000 Super nice people.

01:12:47.000 Food is jamming.

01:12:48.000 There's a spot right here close, not far from our general area.

01:12:54.000 Jasmine Thai.

01:12:55.000 Oh yeah.

01:12:55.000 Yeah, that's a good one too.

01:12:56.000 There's a bunch of good Thai restaurants in LA. What's that place on Sunset that's open real late?

01:13:03.000 Oh, right there next to Toy.

01:13:04.000 Toy.

01:13:05.000 Toy.

01:13:05.000 Toy is great too, man.

01:13:07.000 That's a great late night spot.

01:13:09.000 Like legit Thai food.

01:13:10.000 You get it at two o'clock in the morning.

01:13:12.000 You know, after you set at the comedy store.

01:13:14.000 The Thai iced teas are amazing.

01:13:15.000 That shit's terrible for your diabetes though.

01:13:19.000 That's like 180 grams of sugar.

01:13:22.000 But it's so delicious.

01:13:23.000 Once a year.

01:13:24.000 So delicious.

01:13:26.000 But honestly, I used to drink so much Coke.

01:13:29.000 That's another, when we talked about weight, that's the first thing I got rid of, man, was drinking Coca-Cola.

01:13:34.000 Weight falls off.

01:13:35.000 About 20 pounds of the 30. Isn't that crazy?

01:13:38.000 35 now.

01:13:38.000 Just falls off.

01:13:39.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:13:39.000 You realize, like, what was I doing?

01:13:41.000 Yeah.

01:13:42.000 What was I doing to myself?

01:13:43.000 That and just a little bit of cardio, and I was like...

01:13:45.000 Every other day, I was like, whoa.

01:13:48.000 I just lost, like I said, 35 now because I dropped five pounds out on the road that I didn't even realize.

01:13:54.000 Not even weren't trying.

01:13:56.000 Wow.

01:13:56.000 Just continuing to be healthy.

01:13:58.000 And I think that food in Europe is a lot cleaner just in general.

01:14:01.000 Yep, yep.

01:14:02.000 Well, they don't have a lot of our...

01:14:04.000 First of all, their wheat is what you would call heirloom wheat.

01:14:08.000 They don't have a lot of the complex glutens in our wheat that make it a little bit more difficult to process.

01:14:14.000 This is all a real thing.

01:14:16.000 People think there's some sort of a...

01:14:18.000 People are exaggerating the effects of gluten and gluten intolerance.

01:14:22.000 The issue is that at one point in time, bread was different.

01:14:27.000 Wheat was different, but it was a lower yield.

01:14:30.000 So say if you had an acre and you were planting wheat on it, you would get way less wheat out of that acre than you would with the newer wheat.

01:14:38.000 And the newer wheat has just more complex glutens in it, and you get a higher yield, and so that's what they're looking for.

01:14:43.000 But when you eat it, it's just hard to digest.

01:14:46.000 When I was in Italy, man, everybody's skinny, okay?

01:14:50.000 They're all eating bread, they're all eating pasta, they're all eating pizza, they're all skinny.

01:14:54.000 At the most, these dudes who don't work out, at the most, get like a little paunch.

01:14:59.000 The most!

01:15:00.000 They're drinking wine every night, they got a little paunch.

01:15:02.000 They also walk a lot more than us.

01:15:04.000 They also ride bikes a lot more than us.

01:15:06.000 All those things.

01:15:08.000 Spent a lot of time in Holland this last trip and I couldn't find a fat person.

01:15:11.000 They're just biking everywhere.

01:15:12.000 They're just biking everywhere and they're eating cheese and bread all day.

01:15:16.000 Like literally every meal.

01:15:17.000 Cheese and bread with your meal?

01:15:19.000 Ugh.

01:15:21.000 But they must be pissed that weed's legal everywhere else because people used to go to Holland specifically to go to Amsterdam just to get hot.

01:15:26.000 Well, I have friends that own coffee shops over there and they're like, yeah, there's a lot of fuck.

01:15:29.000 Well, what's going on right now is there's, if I understood what he was telling me, right, Canada is investing shit tons of money with the government over there to like corporate, like start growing corporate weed and they're going to phase out the locals and take it over.

01:15:46.000 Like, they're going to phase out the coffee shop.

01:15:49.000 Weed isn't legal in Holland.

01:15:51.000 It's decriminalized.

01:15:52.000 If you own a weed shop, you can only have, let's say, 500 grams a time in the shop legally.

01:15:59.000 If you have a good shop, you're moving that in a fucking afternoon.

01:16:07.000 And bringing weed to your shop is illegal.

01:16:10.000 Like, it's a smuggling operation.

01:16:13.000 So it has to be in there, and once it's in there, it's okay.

01:16:15.000 Once it's in there, you can sell it, but getting it to your spot is the problem.

01:16:18.000 It's fucking illegal to move that much weed.

01:16:22.000 It's fucked up.

01:16:23.000 Like, these guys, I know a couple guys that own a couple coffee shops, and they're just like, it's fuckery, man.

01:16:27.000 It's like a constant, it's like half a criminal operation they're running.

01:16:31.000 And it used to be that you'd get mushrooms.

01:16:33.000 Yeah.

01:16:34.000 You used to be able to get mushrooms.

01:16:35.000 You used to be able to get like a bunch of shit.

01:16:37.000 And now you can't get mushrooms anymore.

01:16:39.000 Not like hard like narcotics like coke or anything like that, but anything natural like mushrooms.

01:16:43.000 You could get acid when I was first in there, but I don't know if that was legal because I was really young.

01:16:47.000 I just...

01:16:49.000 Well, Holland's just a wild-ass place.

01:16:51.000 I mean, that is the spot where, like, some of the best kickboxing ever came from.

01:16:55.000 It's weird.

01:16:56.000 One little spot in Europe, and they created Ramon Deckers, Rob Kamen, Ernesto Hoost, like, some of the greatest kickboxers of all time out of this one spot.

01:17:07.000 There's gyms everywhere.

01:17:08.000 Everywhere.

01:17:08.000 Everywhere you go, you see them with, like, a gym.

01:17:10.000 It's amazing.

01:17:11.000 I mean, it's just amazing that this one place became a hotbed for elite high-level kickboxing.

01:17:16.000 Real source of their pride, too, like Dutch sports pride.

01:17:18.000 Football and kickboxing are probably the top two things.

01:17:23.000 I mean, they literally have created some of the all-time greatest kickboxers.

01:17:28.000 And it's not a big country.

01:17:30.000 And some of the greatest kickboxing coaches, as well.

01:17:33.000 It's amazing.

01:17:36.000 Really unusual.

01:17:37.000 Really unusual that that happened there.

01:17:39.000 And it's hard to describe why.

01:17:41.000 Like, no one really...

01:17:42.000 It'd be an interesting, like, documentary or something to figure out the roots of that.

01:17:46.000 Somebody went to Thailand.

01:17:47.000 You know, somebody brought it back from Thailand and switched it up and put their own little spin on it.

01:17:52.000 Yeah, and a few guys went over to Thailand and fucked some ties up, too.

01:17:55.000 Because what they had done is they incorporated a lot of Western boxing.

01:17:58.000 Like Ramon Deckers, in particular, was one of the greats.

01:18:01.000 And what he did was, he was a small guy, like the same size as the ties, which was unusual.

01:18:07.000 Because a lot of the people from Amsterdam were big people.

01:18:10.000 It's one of those places where I think the average height For a person in Amsterdam, it's like six feet tall.

01:18:16.000 Yeah, so it's an unusually tall place.

01:18:19.000 Viking fucking shit going on.

01:18:22.000 Yeah, some fucking Viking DNA. I was watching that show for a while.

01:18:26.000 Vikings?

01:18:27.000 I got deep into that show.

01:18:28.000 That show was pretty dark.

01:18:29.000 But Mrs. Rogan got tired of seeing people get sorted up, slashed to pieces.

01:18:33.000 She got bored with it.

01:18:35.000 It was pretty dark.

01:18:36.000 People just getting fucked up with arrows and cut open.

01:18:39.000 It's the whole show.

01:18:40.000 They're always going to war.

01:18:42.000 But that's what they did.

01:18:43.000 They're Vikings.

01:18:44.000 Yeah.

01:18:45.000 And they took a lot of mushrooms too.

01:18:47.000 Pillage, I believe, is a Viking way of life.

01:18:51.000 If you could go back in one time, if you had like a time machine, you go back and watch one time in history, what do you think you would go to see?

01:18:59.000 Hmm.

01:19:00.000 That's a good question.

01:19:00.000 You'd go to see how people lived.

01:19:03.000 Well, being very smell sensitive, it wouldn't be that far back.

01:19:09.000 I'd probably want to go.

01:19:11.000 No, that's not true.

01:19:12.000 I'd probably like, you know, King Arthur era.

01:19:15.000 Yeah, I like that kind of thing.

01:19:16.000 I was heavy Dungeons and Dragons kid, you know what I mean?

01:19:19.000 Maybe go see if there's anything to any of that dragon shit, you know what I mean?

01:19:23.000 Or the Goldie Grail, you know what I mean?

01:19:25.000 Any of that dragon shit.

01:19:27.000 Yeah.

01:19:28.000 I wonder what that was all based on.

01:19:30.000 Like, why are there so many dragons in folklore, in Chinese folklore, in European folklore?

01:19:36.000 There's so many unrelated dragons.

01:19:40.000 Well, I mean, you know, there's people that have, you know, I watch a lot of ancient aliens, so they'll always have an explanation.

01:19:47.000 My man with the hair.

01:19:49.000 Giorgio Tsoukalos.

01:19:52.000 Giorgio did the podcast a long time ago.

01:19:54.000 I love that guy, dude.

01:19:55.000 He's my favorite dude on that show, man.

01:19:57.000 He's a good dude.

01:19:59.000 I don't necessarily agree with everything they say.

01:20:01.000 Not everything, but there's merit to some of it, man.

01:20:05.000 That show is a show you watch with your boys at like 1 o'clock in the morning.

01:20:09.000 You get baked and everybody laughs.

01:20:10.000 You ever watch the Vice version where Action Bronson and all those guys are getting ripped and talking about the show?

01:20:18.000 It's just complete fucking nonsense, but if you're high, it's fucking fun to watch.

01:20:22.000 He came on the podcast.

01:20:23.000 I've never seen a dude smoke more weed in my life.

01:20:26.000 He smoked by himself at least six blunts during the podcast.

01:20:31.000 That dude dabs so hard, man.

01:20:33.000 I don't think the weed really fucks with him anymore, man.

01:20:35.000 I can think it takes that much weed.

01:20:36.000 He just kept going.

01:20:38.000 And I got paranoid just watching him.

01:20:39.000 I'm like, oh.

01:20:40.000 I mean, I smoked a little bit with him, but I mean, I gotta keep this ship on the water.

01:20:45.000 Exactly.

01:20:47.000 You gotta let me keep my hands on the wheel, sir.

01:20:49.000 Like, he just kept going.

01:20:51.000 We took a photo of the ashtray after it was over.

01:20:53.000 It was preposterous.

01:20:54.000 I was like, look at that.

01:20:55.000 That's one show.

01:20:57.000 He's a crazy guy, man.

01:20:59.000 Fun dude, though.

01:20:59.000 No, he's a good guy.

01:21:00.000 I love that Fuck That's Delicious, that show.

01:21:03.000 That's a great show.

01:21:06.000 With Al.

01:21:07.000 Alchemist is a good friend of mine.

01:21:08.000 I've known him since he was young, so they're good buddies.

01:21:10.000 I've met him.

01:21:10.000 I've hung out with him a few times.

01:21:11.000 He's a really fun guy, man.

01:21:13.000 It's a unique idea for a show because, you know, Action Bronson used to be a chef.

01:21:17.000 Yeah.

01:21:17.000 Yeah, so seeing him, like, interact with food and chefs, like, he really knows about food.

01:21:23.000 He really understands food.

01:21:24.000 Yeah.

01:21:25.000 I think he should have a cooking show.

01:21:26.000 He actually, you know, can whip up some fucking mean food.

01:21:30.000 Yeah, right?

01:21:32.000 Now that Bourdain's gone, we need more of those kind of shows that explore food.

01:21:38.000 Bourdain's show changed the way I feel about food.

01:21:41.000 I used to think of food as just something that tastes really good.

01:21:44.000 I didn't think of it as an art form.

01:21:46.000 And then I watched his show, and the reverence that he had for chefs and for the creation of food made me realize, oh, this is an art form that I was ignorant of.

01:21:56.000 I didn't think of it the right way.

01:21:57.000 On all levels, not just like the high chef level.

01:22:00.000 He brings it to the home front where it's like even these local...

01:22:03.000 Look at him.

01:22:04.000 Yeah.

01:22:05.000 What's he cooking?

01:22:07.000 Some sandwich or something.

01:22:08.000 Oh, he's making sandwiches.

01:22:09.000 The world's best sandwich.

01:22:10.000 No, you're right, man.

01:22:11.000 Like on street food level.

01:22:13.000 He loves...

01:22:13.000 Tony loved street tacos and shit.

01:22:16.000 He would go everywhere and buy street food.

01:22:18.000 I mean, honestly...

01:22:20.000 When you're cooking, you feel like that, though.

01:22:22.000 Now I see you cooking all the time whenever you're posting that shit.

01:22:26.000 Never invite me over to have some of that beautiful elk.

01:22:28.000 I was gonna set it up here.

01:22:30.000 I was gonna set a thing up here, but they could never figure out how to get ventilation in here.

01:22:34.000 We have a grill back there that's never been used.

01:22:36.000 It's just sitting back there.

01:22:38.000 Look at him.

01:22:39.000 He's taking a steak.

01:22:41.000 It's gonna be nice and pink in the middle and gorgeous.

01:22:46.000 He's drinking wine.

01:22:47.000 I wonder why...

01:22:47.000 See, this is how stony his show is.

01:22:50.000 Like, they let him wear a shirt that you can't wear, so they had to blur out his shirt.

01:22:55.000 That's such a stony thing.

01:22:57.000 Like, hey, man, you can't wear that shirt.

01:22:59.000 Oh, yo, I got it on.

01:23:00.000 That's it.

01:23:01.000 This is what I'm wearing, so do what you gotta do.

01:23:05.000 Exactly.

01:23:06.000 So they gotta follow him around.

01:23:07.000 That blur thing drives me nuts.

01:23:10.000 Like, what is it?

01:23:10.000 What could it possibly be that's so...

01:23:12.000 But there's times when I see...

01:23:14.000 Beck, alright?

01:23:16.000 Beck, when he had that loser video, the first thing that comes up on the video is him in a mask that's blurred.

01:23:22.000 Right?

01:23:23.000 And I was like, what the fuck?

01:23:26.000 Why would you wear it?

01:23:27.000 It was purposely done.

01:23:28.000 Like, I think sometimes maybe it's like...

01:23:31.000 Yeah, it's like, what the fuck?

01:23:33.000 Like, what is the mask?

01:23:35.000 That's just Beck being a weirdo.

01:23:36.000 Yeah, but what is it?

01:23:37.000 It makes you go like, but what the fuck is it?

01:23:39.000 He's a fascinating guy, too.

01:23:41.000 You know, he's a devout Scientologist.

01:23:43.000 Yeah.

01:23:44.000 His dad is an amazing string arranger, like an orchestrator, and he did a couple of my albums when I had string arrangements and stuff.

01:23:53.000 Really?

01:23:54.000 Yeah.

01:23:54.000 Yeah, I mean, he's a legit musician, like a really interesting musician.

01:23:59.000 Beck is next level.

01:24:01.000 You don't hear about him that often these days.

01:24:03.000 Again, I think it's the same kind of thing.

01:24:06.000 Dude, he's not playing the game.

01:24:08.000 He makes music.

01:24:10.000 He's just an artist.

01:24:11.000 When it's time to make music, it's time to make music.

01:24:16.000 In other words, for me, I'm sorry to argue, but it's like, okay, this is a product, this record, right?

01:24:21.000 But it's not a product to me.

01:24:23.000 It's like, this is eight years of my life.

01:24:25.000 You know what I mean?

01:24:25.000 I didn't make it because I was concerned about keeping my, otherwise, that's why the guys, the guys that got to put a record out every year, those are the guys I'm like, whoa, how do you fucking, that's all, that's, you know, that takes a lot to put a fucking record, especially if it's going to be good.

01:24:40.000 So anybody that can put out a record every year that's good, that's next level.

01:24:45.000 Yeah, well, Louis C.K. was doing that for a while at stand-up.

01:24:49.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:24:49.000 That is hard to do.

01:24:51.000 George Carlin did it every year.

01:24:53.000 George Carlin did a stand-up special every year.

01:24:55.000 And to us, to all stand-up comics, when we all get together and talk about that, everybody kind of agrees it's almost impossible.

01:25:01.000 He did it, but very few people could do it.

01:25:04.000 And...

01:25:05.000 I mean, not to criticize Carlin, because Carlin did it and pulled it off, but most of us feel like that's not enough time.

01:25:14.000 Like, you need more time to let it cook.

01:25:16.000 You need more time to add and twist.

01:25:19.000 I've never had a record come out, like, I think the shortest period was like two years, two and a half years.

01:25:26.000 And that's you probably just constantly going at it.

01:25:28.000 Yeah, anytime I wasn't touring or something and we'd be locked in a room somewhere trying to make music.

01:25:33.000 Now when you record, when you like say if you're gonna lay down an album, do you have everything completely mapped out before you go into the studio or do you fuck around with it while you're in there?

01:25:43.000 Well, the process for this album in particular was wild.

01:25:47.000 Because, again, when Layla was born and the disease, we found out she was diagnosed with cystic fibrosis.

01:25:56.000 I actually was planning to not tour any of that anymore, but I was going to write songs.

01:26:01.000 I went to Nashville, started hanging out with a few songwriters out there and wrote some stuff.

01:26:06.000 One of the songs, It Ain't Easy, which I played years ago on your podcast, is on this album.

01:26:14.000 I wrote some songs with people, but the intention was they were going to be for other people.

01:26:18.000 So I recorded them in a very kind of plain Jane way, not my spin on what they would have been.

01:26:25.000 And after a few years, I just never really pursued...

01:26:29.000 It's too much of a sales pitch.

01:26:31.000 You have to go out and be that smooth of selling your songs, and it just never appealed to me.

01:26:36.000 And so after a few years...

01:26:40.000 I did an acoustic record, and then I started touring that for a while, just old songs, but recorded them acoustically.

01:26:50.000 Then after that was done, and I realized, all right, I need to keep working.

01:26:56.000 What am I going to do?

01:26:57.000 I went back and revisited some of these songs, but I realized I have to re-record them.

01:27:00.000 That's why I didn't see that they were my songs, because I recorded them in a way that I thought other people would want to use them.

01:27:06.000 So I went and re-recorded about, I don't know, five or six of the songs that were already here.

01:27:11.000 And then my buddy Evidence from Dilated Peoples got involved with me and we recorded a few of these rap tracks and it started kind of coming together.

01:27:19.000 And it kind of started coming together in a similar way that the original Whitey Ford Sings the Blues record did.

01:27:23.000 That's why I kind of also named it what it is.

01:27:26.000 There was a lot of similarities and I feel like I just pulled everything from every part of the toolbox that I've learned from since I started.

01:27:36.000 You know, whether it was the Ice-T years or the House of Pain years or the Whitey Ford years.

01:27:41.000 I just...

01:27:41.000 Drew on it all and trying to see, like I said, the eight years of life.

01:27:45.000 It's not like a literal representation of what's happened to me, but it's an emotional journey of like all the kind of feelings and shit that I'm like a lot of struggles and a lot of it's it's it's it's my best record, you know, but eight years right here.

01:28:00.000 So I've never been in a rush.

01:28:02.000 That's a big statement, that it's your best record.

01:28:04.000 It's my best record ever.

01:28:05.000 I'm confident in it.

01:28:07.000 Is it available everywhere?

01:28:08.000 Like iTunes, streaming, Amazon, all that stuff?

01:28:10.000 Yeah, stream the shit out of it.

01:28:11.000 I own my masters.

01:28:13.000 How does that work?

01:28:14.000 If you own your masters, do you get more when they stream?

01:28:17.000 Well, if you own your masters, you get paid outright.

01:28:20.000 Like, you know, you're the label.

01:28:21.000 I'm my own label.

01:28:22.000 The people that complain about not getting paid by streaming are people that are signed to record deals that are getting a small piece of what the master is getting.

01:28:32.000 If you own the master, you know...

01:28:35.000 So streaming is viable for someone who owns the master?

01:28:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:28:39.000 I mean, it's viable, period.

01:28:40.000 I mean, kids, I mean, that's the way it is.

01:28:42.000 It's just the future.

01:28:44.000 It's now.

01:28:44.000 But the people who say it doesn't pay, they're in shitty deals.

01:28:48.000 You know what I mean?

01:28:49.000 Because it pays, you know...

01:28:50.000 I would like it to pay a little better, but it pays.

01:28:53.000 It pays all right.

01:28:53.000 Who was it?

01:28:54.000 I think if you take a million streams, it equals out to around $8,000.

01:28:59.000 Oh, for you.

01:29:01.000 Just in general, that's the payment for what that is to a label.

01:29:05.000 To a label.

01:29:06.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:29:06.000 A million streams is about the equivalent of about eight grand.

01:29:10.000 That doesn't sound like a lot, but a million streams is like a thousand guys or people, fans of yours, that stream your shit, whatever, a hundred times or whatever.

01:29:18.000 It goes quicker than you think.

01:29:20.000 I think Drake streamed a billion streams his first week.

01:29:24.000 Right.

01:29:24.000 That's a nice chunk of change, man.

01:29:26.000 David Crosby was tweeting about how bad streaming deals are, but that is because he has a bad deal.

01:29:32.000 If he doesn't own his master, yeah.

01:29:34.000 If he's recording a deal for the record company, you know what I mean?

01:29:38.000 I think it's all his older songs.

01:29:40.000 Oh, that's, yeah.

01:29:41.000 Then he's probably got shit deals on that.

01:29:42.000 I mean, some of my older stuff, I don't get paid on what I feel like I should, but it's like the stuff since I've owned my masters, which is the last 15 years of my life, you know what I mean?

01:29:50.000 It's fascinating for me on the outside looking at what happens with labels and how they do things.

01:29:56.000 It's just, it's amazing their sort of survival instincts, how they figured out how to stay active.

01:30:01.000 Labels are signing podcasters now.

01:30:04.000 Because of streaming.

01:30:06.000 Streaming?

01:30:06.000 You should be getting checks from this, Joe.

01:30:09.000 I don't allow them to stream me.

01:30:11.000 Well, honestly, you could...

01:30:13.000 Pandora, Spotify, I say nope.

01:30:15.000 Well, you'd probably have to be exclusive to one of them is the deal, too.

01:30:19.000 Well, either way, what they are is just a portal.

01:30:22.000 It's not just streaming, though.

01:30:23.000 Your YouTube views are streaming.

01:30:25.000 That's streaming.

01:30:26.000 It doesn't have to be with a streaming service.

01:30:28.000 Right.

01:30:28.000 I mean, but you should have a digital company that is representing you that's collecting all that if you don't...

01:30:34.000 Yeah, no, I do for that.

01:30:36.000 Okay, just make sure.

01:30:38.000 It's all streaming.

01:30:39.000 You know what the YouTube thing, the most fascinating thing about it is?

01:30:41.000 It's only YouTube.

01:30:43.000 That's the crazy thing.

01:30:44.000 We think about how big the internet is and there's really only one thing like YouTube.

01:30:48.000 It was a good moment they came and the branding and everything they did.

01:30:53.000 They just own it.

01:30:54.000 I don't know if it was a documentary because it wasn't full length, but it might have been just like a little feature within a news kind of segment thing about how the original videos that were huge on YouTube were like a kid biting another kid.

01:31:07.000 Wow.

01:31:07.000 The original first, for the longest time, the most played video on YouTube was Charlie biting the kid or something.

01:31:13.000 Charlie bit me!

01:31:14.000 And that's where it all came from.

01:31:15.000 It almost came from America's home video, like funniest home video kind of thing.

01:31:20.000 YouTube kind of filled in that void for a long time.

01:31:23.000 They were memes before they were memes.

01:31:25.000 They were just viral videos, you know what I mean?

01:31:27.000 That wasn't that long ago.

01:31:28.000 That's what's so crazy.

01:31:29.000 It's like a decade ago.

01:31:31.000 Well, I mean, the necessity of having to change the music business is what changed YouTube, you know, because they caught on, like, RITV doesn't play videos anymore, and nobody's buying records, so we gotta sell.

01:31:43.000 You know, the whole thing for the longest was, like, when the bottom had really fallen out for a while of making any money off of actual records, was like, well, you can bootleg my record, and you can download my record, but you can't download the t-shirt.

01:31:56.000 Right.

01:31:56.000 So it became sell the lifestyle.

01:31:58.000 So the music became background music to everything else.

01:32:02.000 It was part of the lifestyle and the cars and this.

01:32:04.000 And all I wanted you to do was really go buy this limited edition t-shirt that I'm selling you right now.

01:32:08.000 You know what I mean?

01:32:09.000 That's the game changed into.

01:32:12.000 And it's still that.

01:32:13.000 You know what I mean?

01:32:13.000 That's why the fuckery and the trollism and all that.

01:32:15.000 Because people want eyes on them.

01:32:17.000 So the next thing they have the opportunity to sell, they can sell.

01:32:21.000 Yeah, that's what's interesting to me about labels is now labels get a piece of everything.

01:32:25.000 They do these 360 deals.

01:32:26.000 Yeah, that's Satan.

01:32:29.000 That was unheard of when I was there.

01:32:31.000 Not only t-shirt sales, they get a piece of live money.

01:32:36.000 How could they?

01:32:37.000 It used to be like, I had to pay you.

01:32:39.000 It used to be like, all right, a record label would give me half a million dollars.

01:32:44.000 And I'd go and make a record with that.

01:32:47.000 I could spend whatever I wanted making the record and whatever the rest of the money left over was mine.

01:32:50.000 That 500 grand was mine.

01:32:52.000 I could spend it all making the record or I could spend 50 grand making the record and pocket the rest.

01:32:56.000 That was up to me.

01:32:58.000 And then after that, your job as a label was to sell that record.

01:33:02.000 My job was to hit the road and go tour.

01:33:04.000 And I'd go tour for a few years, and at first, I'm not even making money touring.

01:33:08.000 You're giving me money to go out there and tour.

01:33:09.000 It's called tour support.

01:33:10.000 That used to be.

01:33:11.000 And that gets added onto your bill.

01:33:14.000 You didn't get paid.

01:33:15.000 No, you would get money for tour, but it wouldn't cover a bus and a band and all this, so the label would supplement that with what they called tour support, which would also become part of the debt you owed the label.

01:33:27.000 Right.

01:33:28.000 As you built your live audience, your guarantees would go up.

01:33:32.000 Sooner or later you could stop taking that money.

01:33:35.000 And then your record sales would pay that off, hopefully, if you were doing well enough.

01:33:39.000 And now you got your own stream of revenue with live t-shirts, all this other outside shit that's yours.

01:33:45.000 That's the way it was when I came up.

01:33:47.000 Now it's like, that's not a deal.

01:33:49.000 They want it all.

01:33:50.000 How'd they sneak that in?

01:33:52.000 Well, because when Napster and shit dropped the bottom out of the record business and nobody was paying for records, labels weren't going to give you a half a million dollars just for your record because nobody was buying records.

01:34:02.000 They want to sell your t-shirts, too.

01:34:04.000 Isn't that amazing, though, that they figured out how to stay alive like that?

01:34:07.000 Because they always knew that people were going to be needy.

01:34:09.000 It all boils down to this, too.

01:34:12.000 And I hope somebody one day really investigates this and makes some sort of documentary about it.

01:34:17.000 They had so many opportunities to be ahead.

01:34:19.000 The movie industry didn't take the same hit.

01:34:22.000 They took hits and they dealt with piracy, but they...

01:34:25.000 The music industry had a moment, if you remember, there was some kids that got in trouble for downloading ridiculous amounts of music and their parents were being held responsible.

01:34:34.000 And the music industry backed off of it because the news wasn't good.

01:34:39.000 The movie industry never backed off of that kind of shit.

01:34:41.000 They told you, we're going to fucking sue your life off.

01:34:43.000 Well, some people did get sued for music, though.

01:34:46.000 But the music industry backed off, though.

01:34:47.000 They didn't keep the pedal down and keep the foot on the neck like, you're going to steal this.

01:34:51.000 This costs...

01:34:53.000 You gotta remember back then, if I would have got a half a million dollars, I probably would have spent up to two of that on a record.

01:34:58.000 $200,000 just on the making, studio time, whoever's gotta be involved, engineers, producers, 200 grand off top.

01:35:07.000 That's minimum we would have spent on a record.

01:35:09.000 And then you go out and people steal it.

01:35:11.000 You know what I mean?

01:35:12.000 It's the same, you know...

01:35:13.000 Did you ever download shit for free?

01:35:17.000 My thing, not at first, my thing became later like, okay, this is the wave, whatever.

01:35:23.000 But my philosophy was if I downloaded your shit and I liked it...

01:35:29.000 I'd go buy it.

01:35:30.000 Me too.

01:35:31.000 If I downloaded it and it was trashed, then hey, I looked at it as a taste test.

01:35:35.000 That's good, yeah.

01:35:36.000 Okay, maybe if more people adapted that, things would have...

01:35:39.000 But again, the record industry had plenty of opportunities to jump ahead of it and be...

01:35:43.000 There was technology out there already that people were dealing with, bringing it to them, telling them this wave is coming, and the record industry was making so much money at that time.

01:35:51.000 If you look at the amount of money they were making off of the boy bands and the Britney Spears and all...

01:35:56.000 It was retarded how much money was in the record business.

01:35:59.000 And they let it all go down the drain because they thought they had all the answers and they thought it had all the money.

01:36:04.000 What could they have done to stop it?

01:36:06.000 I'd have to go.

01:36:06.000 I have some books on it.

01:36:08.000 Something like get paid for streaming.

01:36:10.000 There were people ready there to help set up things like Naster and how to monetize it and control it.

01:36:15.000 There was ways to deal with it.

01:36:16.000 There were ways to be part of it instead of wait until it was too late.

01:36:21.000 Well, the thing about the movie industry, too, though, is that people want to go to the movies.

01:36:26.000 The experience is not as good.

01:36:28.000 Apple Music saved the music industry.

01:36:30.000 Apple at first.

01:36:31.000 iTunes.

01:36:32.000 Why didn't the record industry...

01:36:33.000 There were people telling them, this is coming, and I didn't mean to interrupt you, but...

01:36:37.000 They could have made iTunes first.

01:36:39.000 Not called iTunes, but the record industry itself should have digitized and been ready.

01:36:45.000 It would have been that simple.

01:36:46.000 Come up with their own version of iTunes.

01:36:48.000 And they could have invested a lot more money...

01:36:51.000 The music industry is booming, but artists are losing big.

01:36:54.000 Because most artists are signed to record deals.

01:36:56.000 With just 12% of revenue.

01:36:59.000 12%?

01:37:01.000 Whoa!

01:37:02.000 $43 billion a year was its most profitable year since 2006. Listeners are spending more money than ever, largely on streaming and live music, with consumer spending totaling more than $20 billion last year.

01:37:17.000 Wow.

01:37:17.000 Yet artists aren't feeling the increase.

01:37:19.000 Of that 20 billion music industry, entities such as record labels took home 10 billion.

01:37:25.000 Musicians taking home just 5.1 billion with the majority of the revenue coming from touring and concert sales.

01:37:31.000 It's amazing.

01:37:32.000 That's amazing.

01:37:33.000 It's like a parasitic industry.

01:37:36.000 People don't necessarily need them the way they used to need them.

01:37:39.000 Not like they used to.

01:37:40.000 I was going to just play devil's advocate and say, well, it used to be that I'm the guy to put up all the...

01:37:45.000 If I'm the label, I'm I'm putting up millions of dollars in advance, gambling it on you.

01:37:49.000 Now when you win, you want to take away my lion's share?

01:37:51.000 No, fuck you.

01:37:52.000 Now it's totally different.

01:37:54.000 Now you can do this on your own.

01:37:56.000 You know what I mean?

01:37:57.000 You can start an Instagram, start a YouTube, start this, and you can make beats on your laptop in your living room.

01:38:01.000 Well, like Chance the Rapper, right?

01:38:03.000 Isn't that the guy who does everything he's done is his own shit online?

01:38:08.000 Sure.

01:38:08.000 Sure?

01:38:09.000 Sure, yeah.

01:38:10.000 You don't believe it?

01:38:10.000 What do you mean?

01:38:11.000 Not exactly.

01:38:12.000 Oh, Jamie's got a conspiracy theory?

01:38:13.000 Not a conspiracy, but he's got more support than he would say.

01:38:16.000 Now he does?

01:38:17.000 Sure.

01:38:18.000 Yeah, now he does, maybe.

01:38:19.000 But I mean, basically, he's become huge all on his own, right?

01:38:23.000 And, I mean, you look, it's like so many viral music hits.

01:38:28.000 You know, they get big online just because kids share it and they like it, and then it becomes gigantic.

01:38:33.000 Like, with the music industry, the industry, the labels have nothing to do with that, right?

01:38:39.000 No, there's labels that are doing their thing out there that actually know what they're doing and marketing-wise and all that.

01:38:44.000 There's still a lot of kids that are being made, you know, famous by labels.

01:38:48.000 So there's some benefit.

01:38:49.000 Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of the reason some of these artists are only seeing 5.1 benefits because they're signed to record deals, you know.

01:38:55.000 Jay-Z ain't only saying 5%, you know, 5% of what, you know, he's due because he, you know, he's been in the game long enough, he knows.

01:39:01.000 And they started out with their own label.

01:39:02.000 They started, in the beginning, Rockefeller Records was independent.

01:39:06.000 So that's the kind of...

01:39:07.000 You know, those kind of guys are never going to lose as long as, you know, they can still make music that people buy.

01:39:13.000 Yeah, they figure out a way to rope you in early, too, where, like, even if your record is successful, the second record, it's not like you're going to be able to be independent on the second record.

01:39:23.000 They own you for several down the line, right?

01:39:26.000 Usually, I mean, it used to be, I think the standard was like $8.

01:39:29.000 Eight albums.

01:39:30.000 But it's misleading because it depends on where you're from, too.

01:39:35.000 If your first record is very successful and you have a lawyer that has any wherewithal, you're renegotiating before you do the second record.

01:39:41.000 These are things you learn.

01:39:43.000 But if you're struggling, that eight-record thing, too, also, if you...

01:39:48.000 Study the record business, it goes back to when actually artists used to be built.

01:39:54.000 Nobody expected the first album to do anything.

01:39:56.000 When they would sign bands in the 60s, they had a plan by album 3 and 4, here's where we'll be.

01:40:02.000 They used to build artists.

01:40:03.000 There used to be A&R. They actually used to nurture and fucking take care of a band for a long time and watch them grow.

01:40:10.000 That's the way it used to be until whatever it was.

01:40:15.000 Maybe the 80s it changed.

01:40:17.000 I had a record deal for my comedy album in 1999. I had a record deal with Warner Brothers.

01:40:21.000 It was like a real record deal.

01:40:22.000 I met with them.

01:40:24.000 They promoted it.

01:40:27.000 The whole deal.

01:40:28.000 I went through the whole record industry business.

01:40:31.000 Yeah, there was always a comedian or two on labels.

01:40:34.000 Yeah, they don't have that anymore.

01:40:35.000 I mean, comedy albums...

01:40:37.000 You do it yourself.

01:40:38.000 Well, it's not just that.

01:40:39.000 You definitely can do it yourself.

01:40:41.000 But comedy albums just aren't that popular anymore for some strange reason.

01:40:44.000 Well, because it's...

01:40:46.000 It's a piss-poor way to view the art form.

01:40:49.000 You want to watch it.

01:40:50.000 Exactly.

01:40:50.000 I was about to say, it's so visual that now...

01:40:53.000 Comedy albums were big when everybody didn't have a TV screen or everything.

01:40:57.000 It's like you could listen and imagine what he was doing.

01:41:00.000 But some guys translate super well.

01:41:02.000 Like Mitch Hedberg translates amazing to CD, to just audio only.

01:41:07.000 Because he basically just stands there and tells great jokes.

01:41:13.000 It's fun to watch him, more fun to watch him, but once you know what he looks like and how he does it, it's kind of cool to listen to it on the albums.

01:41:23.000 I was just talking about Stephen Wright the other day, too.

01:41:25.000 Stephen Wright was a genius.

01:41:27.000 Yeah, he was amazing.

01:41:28.000 Yeah, but that style is hard to do.

01:41:31.000 See, what Mitch Hedberg basically did was do that Stephen Wright style, but like a more stony drug style, but the drugs allowed him to come up with way more of those things.

01:41:44.000 Hedberg could just go on for days.

01:41:47.000 He had so much fucking material, man.

01:41:49.000 That guy wrote constantly.

01:41:51.000 He was always writing till the end.

01:41:53.000 In the end, you know, the drugs got to him.

01:41:56.000 Obviously, they killed him.

01:41:58.000 But he was...

01:42:00.000 That's a non-sequitur style.

01:42:03.000 That's the hardest style of comedy.

01:42:05.000 You say one thing, and then you say something totally unrelated to the next joke, and the next joke's totally unrelated.

01:42:12.000 No sequencing or...

01:42:13.000 No, man.

01:42:14.000 And, you know, it's all...

01:42:16.000 Segways, I'm sorry.

01:42:17.000 That's a word I was like, sequencing.

01:42:18.000 That's an album.

01:42:19.000 But sequencing, too.

01:42:20.000 It's like they don't fit in together in any way, shape, or form.

01:42:24.000 They're just total non-sequiturs.

01:42:26.000 Just, here's a funny thing I thought of.

01:42:27.000 Here's another funny thing I thought of.

01:42:30.000 But his style was so unique.

01:42:32.000 Just the way he delivered things was so unique.

01:42:35.000 He was funny just talking about nothing.

01:42:37.000 Like talking about anything.

01:42:39.000 One of my favorite jokes of his, he goes, somebody asked me if I want a frozen banana.

01:42:43.000 I said no, but I want a regular banana later.

01:42:47.000 So yes.

01:42:53.000 That's just such a silly joke, but it's such a great joke.

01:42:56.000 That's a stoner joke, for sure.

01:42:58.000 Oh, man.

01:42:59.000 All day.

01:43:00.000 He's got like one of the best...

01:43:01.000 His albums are some of the best stoner material of all time.

01:43:05.000 Maybe the best.

01:43:05.000 You're gonna make me go listen to some.

01:43:07.000 Oh, he was an incredible man.

01:43:08.000 Oh, I'm familiar.

01:43:09.000 I just haven't listened to it or heard any of it.

01:43:11.000 I'll throw him on every now and again when I'm on my way to the airport.

01:43:14.000 I used to listen to, on Sirius all the time, the comedy channel, the dirtier, darker one, you know, the more grown-up one.

01:43:20.000 And he'd pop on there every once in a while.

01:43:22.000 Oh, yeah.

01:43:22.000 Yeah.

01:43:24.000 I haven't had Sirius in forever.

01:43:26.000 Do you still listen to that?

01:43:28.000 No, because I just...

01:43:29.000 Yeah.

01:43:30.000 Honestly, my favorite thing in the car is silence.

01:43:34.000 Really?

01:43:35.000 Yeah.

01:43:35.000 By myself, I get a lot of thinking done driving.

01:43:40.000 Or if I'm ever really stumped while I'm working on a song, because I don't write things down or anything, I'll get in the car and drive and somehow it'll work itself out.

01:43:51.000 I can really just relax behind the wheel.

01:43:54.000 Yeah.

01:43:54.000 Yeah, I know what you mean.

01:43:56.000 Unless I'm in the middle of fucked up driving.

01:43:59.000 At night, I can get in a car, I can drive on an open road, and it really relaxes me.

01:44:04.000 I have a car that I take to the comedy store all the time, and it's a 1993 Porsche.

01:44:08.000 It doesn't have any radio.

01:44:09.000 No radio, it's manual transmission, no power steering, no air conditioning.

01:44:15.000 It's just an old car.

01:44:18.000 When you drive it, you feel every bump, and it's like, and you shift it.

01:44:22.000 But because of all that, I have to think, and it fires my brain up because I'm doing all these different things, hitting a clutch, shifting the gears, managing this heavy steering wheel and all that jazz.

01:44:35.000 And when I get to the store, my brain is charged up because of it.

01:44:38.000 It's like I've been doing a bunch of things.

01:44:40.000 It's like exercising your brain.

01:44:42.000 I'm not in the back seat sleeping, waiting to get to the show, and then I wake myself up.

01:44:47.000 I love to drive.

01:44:49.000 Do you still get that crazy Audi?

01:44:51.000 No, not right now.

01:44:52.000 I just bought a truck, actually, and I got a CLS 63S. Yeah, it's nice.

01:44:59.000 I just couldn't bring the kids in the Audi, but I miss it so much, I'm actually about to get another one.

01:45:04.000 They have a new one.

01:45:05.000 Yeah, I know.

01:45:06.000 That's a beast of a car.

01:45:07.000 What do you think?

01:45:08.000 I was like, all right, I got to hit the road for about three months.

01:45:13.000 I'll be back for that car.

01:45:14.000 It's an amazing car.

01:45:16.000 Yeah, it's a good time if you're into cars.

01:45:19.000 They got a lot of crazy ass fucking automobiles now.

01:45:21.000 Yeah, when I did have the R8, man, I would just like, and then I lived much further south.

01:45:26.000 I actually lived off the 15, like below the 91. And I would, when I would shoot to sometimes out to Vegas for fights, I would just jump in the R8 like on a Thursday night, like 11 o'clock.

01:45:38.000 I'd be there by two.

01:45:39.000 I'd get there in like three hours.

01:45:41.000 Jesus.

01:45:42.000 I mean, I was already on the 15. I wasn't coming from deep LA. Still, Jesus.

01:45:46.000 But I'd do like a fucking buck three the whole way.

01:45:50.000 God damn it.

01:45:52.000 That's fast.

01:45:54.000 That's a four-wheel drive car, too.

01:45:56.000 That car's glued to the ground.

01:45:57.000 It's like on fucking rails, man.

01:45:59.000 It's one of my favorite cars I've ever driven.

01:46:01.000 Yeah.

01:46:02.000 And the style, like, it's still relevant.

01:46:05.000 Like, they've kept that style, basically, with just a little few facelifts and improvements for a few years.

01:46:10.000 I mean, it's essentially like a mini Lamborghini, right?

01:46:12.000 It's the same engine.

01:46:13.000 Yeah, it's the Gallardo.

01:46:15.000 The same engine as the Gallardo.

01:46:16.000 I mean, it's more than enough power.

01:46:18.000 The crazy thing about today's cars is they have so much power, it's just ridiculous.

01:46:22.000 Like, every year it's like a new faster 0-60 time, new records on the Nürburgring.

01:46:28.000 It's like, what are you doing?

01:46:29.000 Like, where are you taking this?

01:46:30.000 Like, where are you going to drive this thing that fast?

01:46:33.000 It's gonna be teleporting.

01:46:35.000 The new Corvette ZR1 has 700 and something fucking horsepower.

01:46:40.000 How does it even stay on the...

01:46:42.000 It barely does.

01:46:44.000 One of the drivers from GM, one of the head execs from GM, took it on a racetrack when they were first releasing it and crashed.

01:46:51.000 Like, immediately spun out and slammed into the fucking wall.

01:46:58.000 That's great.

01:46:58.000 You gotta know what the fuck you're doing if you're throttling.

01:47:02.000 I mean, you have to be able to navigate that throttle with 700 horsepower, because no matter what, those wheels are spinning.

01:47:08.000 Especially rear-wheel drive, no matter how much traction control.

01:47:12.000 You ever see that video?

01:47:13.000 See?

01:47:14.000 Find the video.

01:47:14.000 It's fucking hilarious.

01:47:16.000 It's a good video to watch, to let you know, like, this is a crazy vehicle that you people are selling.

01:47:21.000 You're letting people get a car that is so much faster than anything that was on the road five years ago.

01:47:28.000 I mean, it's a fucking insane mobile.

01:47:31.000 And the speed limit ain't changed.

01:47:33.000 You know where that car comes in handy?

01:47:36.000 Germany.

01:47:37.000 Yeah.

01:47:38.000 GM exec crashes new Corvette ZR1. I mean, this was before it was even released.

01:47:46.000 This dude showed everybody what the problem is.

01:47:48.000 This is the only one he ain't sent me, man.

01:47:49.000 I got an extra one.

01:47:51.000 He ain't sent me that one.

01:47:52.000 Funny, I was talking about this guy.

01:47:54.000 I liked a picture of his so long ago.

01:47:56.000 Here it is.

01:47:57.000 Look at this guy.

01:47:58.000 Boom!

01:48:00.000 Play that again.

01:48:01.000 Oh my goodness.

01:48:04.000 Watch this.

01:48:05.000 Play it from the beginning, this knucklehead.

01:48:06.000 It started too quick.

01:48:07.000 I'll see if there's more angles.

01:48:08.000 No, no, no.

01:48:09.000 Look at this.

01:48:10.000 Right away, this guy.

01:48:12.000 Hey, I know how to drive.

01:48:13.000 I'm a fucking executive.

01:48:15.000 Shit!

01:48:16.000 Wow.

01:48:17.000 Yeah, he's driving like an asshole.

01:48:18.000 He doesn't know how to drive.

01:48:20.000 Sorry, sir.

01:48:21.000 He just put the foot down.

01:48:22.000 Yeah.

01:48:23.000 He doesn't know what the fuck he's doing.

01:48:25.000 Dumbass.

01:48:26.000 Look, that's a car that you have to know how to navigate once the ass end kicks out, too.

01:48:32.000 He was just stomping it.

01:48:36.000 That's hilarious.

01:48:37.000 Crash.

01:48:37.000 I'm sure he got...

01:48:40.000 He felt like an asshole.

01:48:41.000 A nice amount of shit at the next board meeting.

01:48:43.000 Well, he should.

01:48:44.000 Look at that fucking car, though.

01:48:46.000 Good lord.

01:48:47.000 What a beast of a car.

01:48:48.000 What are they retailing for?

01:48:50.000 It's more than $100,000.

01:48:51.000 I think it's like $150,000, $160,000.

01:48:54.000 Damn.

01:48:54.000 Probably fully loaded, but it is a monster.

01:48:56.000 It looks good.

01:48:57.000 I like what they've done to the body style.

01:48:59.000 See, but you know where your R8 has a huge advantage?

01:49:03.000 Your R8 is a four-wheel drive car.

01:49:05.000 And 755 horsepower.

01:49:07.000 Good lord.

01:49:09.000 Good lord.

01:49:09.000 That's insane.

01:49:10.000 Good lord.

01:49:11.000 But the problem is it's hard to keep all that power down on the ground with...

01:49:19.000 Rear-wheel drive car you're just gonna get a lot of sliding and if you know how to drive you like that People who know how to drive they want to kick the ass in out sideways and yeah But like if you drive a like say a Nissan GTR is perfect example One of the best things about that car is a regular person can drive it pretty fast Because there's a lot of electronics and what they would call nanny controls that sort of keep everything in order So that car has been around for a long time.

01:49:45.000 They really haven't changed a whole lot about the way it looks.

01:49:48.000 But they've made these incremental improvements in performance.

01:49:52.000 And to this day, that is one of the beastiest cars you could drive.

01:49:55.000 That car is a motherfucker.

01:49:57.000 I rented one of those in Austin last year.

01:49:59.000 Holy shit was it fun.

01:50:01.000 It's a crazy car.

01:50:03.000 It defies logic.

01:50:05.000 Like, it defies physics.

01:50:07.000 That's the Nismo one.

01:50:08.000 You don't want that one unless you want to take it to a track, because that shit's harsh as fuck.

01:50:12.000 You just want the regular one.

01:50:13.000 The regular one is beastie enough.

01:50:17.000 They're amazing cars, though.

01:50:19.000 All the pop-up windows, trying to get you to buy it.

01:50:21.000 Come on, buy it.

01:50:21.000 Buy this.

01:50:22.000 Come on, buy it.

01:50:23.000 Buy it.

01:50:24.000 But really, if I was going to get a brand new Japanese car, the real car to get now is the new NSX. The new NSX. TJ Dillashaw has one.

01:50:33.000 He brought it in here, and I was checking it out outside.

01:50:36.000 Fuck, man.

01:50:37.000 It's got electric engines on top of the regular engines.

01:50:42.000 It's an amazing car.

01:50:44.000 Just fucking amazing.

01:50:45.000 And it's gorgeous.

01:50:46.000 Oh, the Acura.

01:50:47.000 Okay.

01:50:47.000 And they have a 2019 one that's coming out that has even more improvements.

01:50:52.000 But it's hard for them to sell these cars because, like, look at how good that looks.

01:50:56.000 Look how good that looks.

01:50:59.000 Goddamn that looks.

01:50:59.000 I'm still kind of partial to the Audi.

01:51:01.000 Audi's a beast.

01:51:02.000 Yeah, I love it.

01:51:03.000 Look, it's just, it's apples or oranges.

01:51:05.000 It's just what you're into.

01:51:06.000 TJ's got that color, too, that blue.

01:51:08.000 Pull up 2018 Audi R8. Oh!

01:51:12.000 It's a 19. Oh!

01:51:13.000 Look at that!

01:51:14.000 That's gorgeous.

01:51:15.000 Come on, son!

01:51:16.000 You gotta get silver, too, because it looks like a fucking spaceship.

01:51:19.000 That's a monster car.

01:51:21.000 Look how beautiful that is.

01:51:22.000 That's one of the best-looking cars I've ever seen.

01:51:24.000 What are they, like a Buck 82?

01:51:26.000 Something like that.

01:51:28.000 Monster.

01:51:29.000 Monster vehicle.

01:51:30.000 Just ridiculous performance.

01:51:31.000 Good-looking car.

01:51:32.000 Yeah, and easy to drive, too.

01:51:33.000 It's one of those cars that's just glued to the ground, four-wheel drive, electric engines controlling the wheels, crazy brake systems.

01:51:44.000 Amazing.

01:51:51.000 159 Cheesemos.

01:51:53.000 That's a lot of cheddar.

01:51:55.000 Ka-chow.

01:51:55.000 Ka-chow!

01:51:58.000 But it doesn't have the sound that your car had.

01:52:00.000 See, the thing about the Audi is they have that big-ass fucking V8 or the V10, depending on which one you get.

01:52:09.000 That's a different thing, man.

01:52:12.000 It's a different thing.

01:52:12.000 What is that beast?

01:52:13.000 The new R8. Ooh, what the fuck?

01:52:16.000 2019 R8 LMS. Oh, that's the race car.

01:52:20.000 That's a monster.

01:52:21.000 That's gorgeous.

01:52:23.000 Pull up 2019 Audi R8. People get mad when we talk too much about cars.

01:52:33.000 I couldn't even afford these cars, bro.

01:52:34.000 Why are you talking about these cars?

01:52:36.000 Because it's fun.

01:52:38.000 That must be the camouflaged one.

01:52:42.000 I saw on Twitter someone posted a picture.

01:52:43.000 They saw one driving around with this weird paint job.

01:52:46.000 I've seen that.

01:52:47.000 They drive them all over cities and everything like that to test them.

01:52:51.000 They do that for quite a long time.

01:52:52.000 I've been around a few of those cars.

01:52:55.000 You ever see the one that they'll do it with regular cars?

01:52:57.000 I remember the PT Cruiser?

01:52:59.000 Yes.

01:53:00.000 When that was first, long before it came out, like about a year before it came out, they would see this ugly fucking thing driving around with these magnetic covers all over it, so you couldn't see the car, but you could totally tell what the shape was.

01:53:11.000 Right.

01:53:12.000 It was fucking hilarious.

01:53:14.000 Nobody gives a shit about that car anyway.

01:53:16.000 What, they're gonna steal your design?

01:53:17.000 Yeah.

01:53:17.000 No one's stealing that design.

01:53:19.000 It was such a shitty car.

01:53:20.000 Dude, I drove one once.

01:53:21.000 I rented one because it looked kind of cool.

01:53:24.000 I said, I'll take one of those.

01:53:25.000 That's kind of cool looking.

01:53:26.000 Oh my God, what a death trap.

01:53:28.000 I was driving.

01:53:28.000 I was like, this thing has zero control.

01:53:30.000 You can't corner in it.

01:53:31.000 The brakes suck.

01:53:32.000 It's just built to look like an old surfer car.

01:53:35.000 Way worse.

01:53:35.000 I rented a Hummer H3 once.

01:53:38.000 I would never even.

01:53:39.000 Oh, good lord!

01:53:40.000 And I took it on a dirt road.

01:53:42.000 I was in Colorado.

01:53:43.000 We drove up this hill.

01:53:45.000 Every time I was going around a corner, it was kicking out sideways.

01:53:48.000 That thing had like zero traction.

01:53:49.000 It was a terrible car.

01:53:51.000 Did you ever drive a Prowler?

01:53:51.000 Oh, never.

01:53:53.000 No.

01:53:54.000 Interesting side bit.

01:53:55.000 Chip Foose designed that.

01:53:56.000 Same guy who built my Barracuda.

01:53:58.000 Or designed my Barracuda, not built it.

01:54:02.000 Yeah, no thanks.

01:54:04.000 Yeah, disgusting vehicle.

01:54:05.000 That was like the Hot Wheel you hated.

01:54:11.000 Right, you're like, get this one out of here, man.

01:54:12.000 That's the Hot Wheel you put a firecracker in.

01:54:14.000 Yeah, give me that old Corvette.

01:54:16.000 Fuck this little thing.

01:54:18.000 Yeah, they tried those.

01:54:19.000 They tried those for a while.

01:54:22.000 It's an interesting time for cars, though, now.

01:54:25.000 And people are starting to go towards electric cars.

01:54:27.000 Have you driven a Tesla yet?

01:54:29.000 No.

01:54:29.000 That's a goddamn space machine.

01:54:31.000 Those things are rocket ships.

01:54:33.000 They're so fast, they don't even make any sense.

01:54:35.000 They don't make any sense.

01:54:37.000 They're zero to 60 in like two seconds.

01:54:39.000 That's crazy.

01:54:40.000 They're so fast.

01:54:41.000 I wasn't hip to that.

01:54:42.000 There's no gears, right?

01:54:44.000 Because the transmission is not the same.

01:54:46.000 It's not a combustion engine that has to feed in the transmission, the clutch and all that stuff.

01:54:51.000 This is kind of like when you just press forward on the remote control cars, right?

01:54:56.000 It just...

01:54:57.000 Exactly.

01:54:58.000 It just goes.

01:54:59.000 That kind of makes sense, yeah.

01:55:00.000 Just an electric car that goes 1.9 seconds, son, 0 to 60. What in the actual fuck?

01:55:08.000 And it can go 620 miles before you have to charge it.

01:55:12.000 That's crazy.

01:55:14.000 That's going to be a monster.

01:55:15.000 Yeah, and how long you got to wait to get one?

01:55:17.000 Probably a while.

01:55:19.000 Hey, maybe you got a word in with your buddy.

01:55:21.000 Yeah, it's not ready yet.

01:55:22.000 It's 2020. They're not even going to start selling them.

01:55:24.000 I don't even think they've...

01:55:25.000 They're not even in production.

01:55:27.000 Meanwhile, he shot one off into space.

01:55:29.000 Look how pretty it is, though.

01:55:31.000 God, when that thing comes out, that's a gorgeous car.

01:55:33.000 That's a CGI, though, right?

01:55:35.000 No, no, that's the car.

01:55:37.000 That's probably the one they made.

01:55:38.000 Remember they had one they shot into space?

01:55:40.000 Look at that.

01:55:40.000 Look how fast that fucking thing goes.

01:55:43.000 1.9 seconds.

01:55:45.000 250 plus miles per hour.

01:55:48.000 I mean, what the fuck?

01:55:50.000 That's going to be one of the most amazing cars ever once it actually comes out.

01:55:54.000 Yeah, that's kind of cool.

01:55:55.000 Save up your cheddar.

01:55:56.000 200 G's.

01:55:58.000 Whoa!

01:55:59.000 250 fully loaded.

01:56:00.000 Whoa!

01:56:01.000 It's just a quarter brick, dawg.

01:56:02.000 That's it.

01:56:03.000 Founder Series Reservation.

01:56:05.000 What does that mean?

01:56:06.000 I don't know.

01:56:07.000 Cool.

01:56:07.000 Awesome.

01:56:09.000 Yeah, that guy was a weird guy to talk to, because I couldn't get over all the stuff he does.

01:56:14.000 I'm like, how do you do all these different things?

01:56:16.000 How do you make these, and then you make roof panels, and then you're like drilling tunnels, and then you're shooting rockets into space.

01:56:25.000 SpaceX.

01:56:25.000 Yeah.

01:56:26.000 He's doing everything.

01:56:27.000 Maybe he's an alien.

01:56:29.000 You said he was.

01:56:30.000 Maybe we should listen.

01:56:32.000 Said he was an alien.

01:56:33.000 He might be.

01:56:35.000 Might be a higher thinking life form.

01:56:37.000 Well, he might as well be, right?

01:56:39.000 If he was an alien and he looked exactly like that...

01:56:41.000 I'll be honest, when he grabbed a joint and the way he kind of looked at it, I was kind of like, it seemed kind of like a guy who was kind of like, I'm not familiar with this practice, but...

01:56:50.000 Or maybe he's so smart that he thought it would be funny if he pretended he didn't know what a joint was.

01:56:56.000 Could be.

01:56:57.000 I don't think he didn't know what it was.

01:56:59.000 I'm just saying as he was about to partake, he kind of had this real inquisitive like...

01:57:03.000 Yeah, but there was a part.

01:57:04.000 It was a blunt.

01:57:05.000 And he almost seemed like he didn't know what a blunt was.

01:57:07.000 I can believe that.

01:57:09.000 Really?

01:57:10.000 I can believe that.

01:57:11.000 The glass tip could have thrown him off because that's a little unique if you're not familiar.

01:57:15.000 Not everybody is hip to weed culture, man, as we think.

01:57:18.000 You know what I mean?

01:57:19.000 Right, but when he said that Tesla was going private, funding secure at 420...

01:57:27.000 He's got to pay $20 million for that joke.

01:57:30.000 That joke cost him $20 million.

01:57:32.000 The SEC got mad at him.

01:57:33.000 They fined him.

01:57:34.000 Yeah, well, it's also manipulating your stock prices a little bit.

01:57:39.000 You can send your shareholders into a panic.

01:57:41.000 Jamie was concerned that they were going to contact us and see if we arranged that pot smoking part.

01:57:48.000 Like if that was something that had been arranged in advance because it crashed the stock.

01:57:53.000 I read all the stories.

01:57:54.000 I was like, Joe Rogan making noise out here.

01:57:59.000 I was like, oh Jesus, we didn't do that, did we?

01:58:01.000 I definitely didn't.

01:58:03.000 Yeah, that was organic, folks.

01:58:05.000 Dude, that was amazing, dude.

01:58:07.000 That was amazing.

01:58:08.000 Strange.

01:58:10.000 That's what this podcast is for.

01:58:12.000 Yeah, for strange shit.

01:58:14.000 Strange moments that you can't get on NBC. Well, you can't even get it on Netflix.

01:58:21.000 I mean, look at Norm Macdonald's show on Netflix.

01:58:25.000 He's got that thing that he's doing on Netflix.

01:58:29.000 Netflix is probably the most unrestricted of all networks, of all things you're trying to do.

01:58:34.000 In terms of comedy, there's nothing ever been like it.

01:58:37.000 It's the greatest thing.

01:58:38.000 Netflix, for sure, is the greatest thing that's ever happened to stand-up comedy.

01:58:41.000 Ever.

01:58:42.000 I can see that.

01:58:42.000 Never been a company that...

01:58:43.000 Get just about any special you want.

01:58:45.000 They give you no feedback.

01:58:47.000 They don't fuck with you at all.

01:58:49.000 They don't censor you.

01:58:51.000 They don't tell you what to do.

01:58:52.000 They don't...

01:58:53.000 Me.

01:58:53.000 They have...

01:58:54.000 Some people have said some things that they wanted to edit out.

01:58:57.000 Well, it's a numbers game, too, for them.

01:58:59.000 It has to be, like, way, way across the line before they...

01:59:04.000 They know what Joe Rogan numbers are.

01:59:06.000 That's when they come to you and they say, here's your special, we're going to do this.

01:59:09.000 They know who you are, what you do.

01:59:13.000 They're signing with you or doing your special with you because they know how many eyes you're going to bring to the channel.

01:59:20.000 Yeah, they know what they're doing, but it's still just having this ability to have something streaming.

01:59:25.000 If you were a person who said, oh, I want to do a show on this network, forget about Netflix.

01:59:33.000 If you just decided, that's almost like, I don't want people to watch this.

01:59:37.000 I want people to watch it one time.

01:59:39.000 I want it to be on 10 p.m.

01:59:41.000 Saturday, October 17th, and that's it.

01:59:43.000 Like who the fuck wants that?

01:59:45.000 Like nobody wants that.

01:59:47.000 You want someone to be at the airport with their phone and be going, huh, I want to go watch the Chris Rock special.

01:59:54.000 Let me check it out right now.

01:59:55.000 Bam!

01:59:55.000 It's amazing.

01:59:56.000 And then you're sitting there on your own just watching it.

02:00:01.000 There is no live TV and all that's going to the wayside.

02:00:05.000 It's useless.

02:00:06.000 I see commercials now.

02:00:07.000 I start laughing.

02:00:08.000 Why?

02:00:10.000 You fucking dinosaurs with your bullshit ass commercials.

02:00:13.000 I just finished Ozark.

02:00:15.000 Did you finish it?

02:00:16.000 The second season?

02:00:17.000 Don't say anything.

02:00:18.000 I just started the second season.

02:00:20.000 I'm on second episode.

02:00:21.000 It's so good.

02:00:22.000 I'm on the episode where the guy blew the hand off.

02:00:27.000 You should spoiler alert that, sir.

02:00:30.000 What?

02:00:30.000 Nobody knows why, when, or how.

02:00:32.000 Ah, don't!

02:00:34.000 There's people out there.

02:00:35.000 I'm just saying.

02:00:36.000 Netflix is killing it.

02:00:38.000 Stranger Things.

02:00:40.000 You ever watch that show?

02:00:41.000 Yeah, I'm waiting for the next season.

02:00:43.000 Goddamn!

02:00:44.000 Netflix, here's what Netflix is.

02:00:45.000 For me and my wife, that's one of our things.

02:00:48.000 We find a show to spend some time together.

02:00:51.000 We do that too, yeah.

02:00:52.000 Ozark, she found.

02:00:53.000 You know what I mean?

02:00:54.000 Stranger Things, I think I found.

02:00:56.000 But yeah, that's our thing.

02:00:58.000 Ozark has been kind of tough for us because we watched the first episode of season two, and then I went on tour for a month.

02:01:05.000 So we just watched the second one the other night.

02:01:08.000 And I gotta leave now.

02:01:10.000 And we don't have time to binge the whole thing.

02:01:12.000 Is there any other good ones that I need to know about?

02:01:15.000 People occasionally tweet me ones and I forget.

02:01:17.000 There's a weird German one called, I think, Dark.

02:01:20.000 I mean, it's subtitled and stuff, but it's crazy.

02:01:24.000 Well, Black Mirror, of course.

02:01:25.000 Oh yeah, Black Mirror.

02:01:26.000 That's the shit.

02:01:27.000 I watched all of those.

02:01:28.000 That shows the shit.

02:01:29.000 But that is a weird one.

02:01:30.000 That's one of those ones that I watch, like I'm stoned.

02:01:33.000 I come home from the comedy store and I'm smoking a little weed and I watch that and I'll go, why am I watching this before I go to bed?

02:01:38.000 I think the last time I was here, you were talking about the one, the Star Trek-y one, and that's what made me go look at it.

02:01:42.000 And I was like, let me go look at it again.

02:01:44.000 Because I think I watched it in the beginning.

02:01:45.000 I think I tried early on and it was the one where the politician had the fuck...

02:01:49.000 Oh, the fuck the pig?

02:01:50.000 Yeah.

02:01:51.000 And that kind of just was like, all right, sorry, whatever, this weird shit.

02:01:54.000 Yeah.

02:01:55.000 And I probably just wasn't, you know, I was like, I don't want to, but then when you told me about that one, I went back, started there, and that was the last season, and then I worked my way back and actually got to that one again and re-watched it, and I was like, oh, these are all pretty crazy.

02:02:05.000 Did you see Heavy Metal?

02:02:06.000 Did you see that one?

02:02:08.000 That's the one with the drones, the drones coming after people?

02:02:10.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

02:02:11.000 Whoa.

02:02:12.000 Yeah.

02:02:12.000 Well, that's too close to home.

02:02:14.000 I binge watched Black Mirror pretty tough over a just two or three day period.

02:02:19.000 And like for like a couple weeks, I was convinced I'm living in a simulation.

02:02:22.000 Like after watching, especially the dating ones where they just keep me.

02:02:27.000 It's like that shit blew my mind a little bit.

02:02:29.000 That was another thing that Elon Musk freaked me out about.

02:02:32.000 He was saying it's quite possible that we are living in a simulation.

02:02:35.000 Oh, dude, I'm always playing with that idea.

02:02:38.000 Like, you posted something the other day that was like, oh, it was the Trump thing.

02:02:42.000 Was that a real t-shirt, by the way?

02:02:44.000 Well, it's a real t-shirt that you can buy, but it's not from Donald Trump's store.

02:02:48.000 It's a company that's selling them.

02:02:50.000 It's like trumpstore.shop.

02:02:52.000 Yeah, so it's not his.

02:02:53.000 But you wrote, like, we're living in a movie?

02:02:55.000 I was like, yeah, this is like a simulation.

02:02:56.000 But just the fact that someone's selling that.

02:02:57.000 This is like crazy.

02:02:58.000 Just the fact that someone, people are like, that's fake news.

02:03:01.000 It's not fake news.

02:03:02.000 It's a real shirt.

02:03:03.000 I know it's not his.

02:03:04.000 But the fact that that's a shirt that says, I like beer, and it has a guy who's, I mean, they're trying to put this guy in the Supreme Court.

02:03:12.000 It's fucking hilarious.

02:03:13.000 The whole world is hilarious.

02:03:15.000 The whole world's hilarious.

02:03:16.000 It's all fucked up.

02:03:17.000 Yeah.

02:03:18.000 Well, this is one of the cool things about Black Mirror.

02:03:20.000 Black Mirror is showing you where some things could go in a total dystopian way.

02:03:27.000 Do you see Crocodile?

02:03:29.000 See that episode?

02:03:31.000 Crocodile.

02:03:32.000 That's the one where you can record memories?

02:03:36.000 Yes!

02:03:37.000 I've seen all of them, I just don't know the title.

02:03:39.000 This lady?

02:03:39.000 Remember this lady?

02:03:40.000 Uh-huh.

02:03:40.000 Remember this lady with the car accident in the beginning?

02:03:43.000 Insurance company.

02:03:44.000 Remember this?

02:03:44.000 Yes.

02:03:45.000 Remember this?

02:03:46.000 That's the darkest of the dark ones.

02:03:49.000 That one was so fucked up.

02:03:51.000 That one wrecked me.

02:03:52.000 Oh, that was the one where the people could rewind each other's memories and play back.

02:03:58.000 Yeah.

02:03:59.000 All that is coming.

02:04:01.000 Oh, that's easily coming.

02:04:02.000 All this shit is coming.

02:04:03.000 Then there's the one where it wasn't super dark, but it was where the chick was trying to up her status in the world.

02:04:08.000 Yes, yes.

02:04:09.000 Get her stars up.

02:04:10.000 The Star Trek one's my favorite, I think.

02:04:12.000 That one was fucking amazing.

02:04:14.000 That was a good one.

02:04:15.000 It was amazing.

02:04:17.000 And that is this sort of weird blend of current reality and a possibility of simulation.

02:04:23.000 Where it was the chick wakes up and she doesn't know where she is, who she is, whatever, and everybody's recording.

02:04:28.000 She's the murderer.

02:04:30.000 That was a crazy one, too, man.

02:04:32.000 It's a fucking amazing show.

02:04:34.000 Yeah, I only...

02:04:35.000 If you hadn't mentioned the Star Trek one, I probably never would have revisited that.

02:04:39.000 God, so good.

02:04:40.000 There's so many good shows now.

02:04:43.000 What else is good?

02:04:44.000 What else I need to know about?

02:04:45.000 Have you seen it?

02:04:46.000 It's not a show.

02:04:46.000 It's, I think, a documentary-ish.

02:04:48.000 It's kind of like half documentary, and then they did some recreations.

02:04:51.000 It's called Wormwood.

02:04:53.000 No.

02:04:53.000 It's all about the acid, CIA, MKUltra program and shit.

02:05:00.000 Is that a Netflix thing?

02:05:01.000 It's on Netflix, yes, Wormwood.

02:05:02.000 Oh, Jesus.

02:05:02.000 Oh, you've got to check it.

02:05:03.000 It's dope.

02:05:04.000 You know what my favorite one they did?

02:05:05.000 Do you know what Operation Midnight Climax is?

02:05:08.000 It sounds familiar.

02:05:09.000 The CIA, they ran a brothel, and they gave Johns, the guys would come to the fuckery, and they would give them acid to run tests on them.

02:05:19.000 They loved to give people acid for shit, man.

02:05:20.000 Back in the 50s, they didn't know what acid did.

02:05:22.000 It's called Wormwood?

02:05:25.000 Wormwood, yeah.

02:05:27.000 It's really good, man.

02:05:28.000 It has a really good actor playing the main role when they do the recreations.

02:05:32.000 You'll recognize him.

02:05:33.000 I forget his name.

02:05:34.000 He was in that movie about the Marines with Gyllenhaal.

02:05:42.000 Where they were in Iraq.

02:05:43.000 He was his partner.

02:05:44.000 Zero Dark Thirty?

02:05:44.000 Jarhead?

02:05:45.000 No, Jarhead.

02:05:46.000 Yeah, he was his partner in Jarhead.

02:05:47.000 He was that guy.

02:05:48.000 He's in a lot of stuff.

02:05:49.000 I can't remember his name.

02:05:50.000 He's a really good actor, though.

02:05:51.000 There's just almost too much good shit to watch today.

02:05:54.000 Oh, yeah.

02:05:55.000 Another one I watched because of you was the documentary Wild...

02:06:00.000 Oh, Wild Wild Country?

02:06:02.000 Wild Wild Country.

02:06:03.000 And then it all started coming back.

02:06:05.000 I remember that news when I was young.

02:06:07.000 I don't remember that at all.

02:06:08.000 I started being like, oh, man, I kind of remember this.

02:06:11.000 You know, I've been reading his book.

02:06:12.000 You know what I just watched?

02:06:13.000 What?

02:06:13.000 Three Identical Strangers?

02:06:16.000 Oh, dude, about the triplets.

02:06:18.000 Oh, dude, I can't even...

02:06:18.000 I'm not going to spoil it.

02:06:20.000 Go watch that.

02:06:20.000 Is that a Netflix thing, too?

02:06:22.000 If it's not on Netflix, I got it on...

02:06:24.000 I rented it on iTunes for like five bucks.

02:06:26.000 Three Identical Strangers.

02:06:27.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:06:27.000 It might not be on Netflix.

02:06:29.000 No, no, no.

02:06:29.000 But it's basically some triplets that were separated at birth.

02:06:34.000 And...

02:06:34.000 Did I say birth?

02:06:37.000 Birth.

02:06:38.000 Birth.

02:06:40.000 At birth.

02:06:41.000 The first 20 minutes is amazing.

02:06:46.000 After that, it gets crazy and dark.

02:06:50.000 Really?

02:06:50.000 Yeah.

02:06:51.000 Okay.

02:06:54.000 Oh yeah, Making a Murderer.

02:06:56.000 So is that Netflix?

02:06:57.000 Three Identical Strangers?

02:06:58.000 It didn't say.

02:06:59.000 It's just a documentary.

02:07:00.000 I don't know.

02:07:00.000 It could be.

02:07:01.000 Well, Wild Wild Country is just goddamn amazing.

02:07:04.000 It was a CNN film, so it could be on Netflix too.

02:07:07.000 But right now it's on iTunes and you have to rent it, so I don't think I found it on Netflix.

02:07:11.000 You know what's weird about Wild Wild Country?

02:07:13.000 And it's weird about all these crazy sex cults.

02:07:15.000 It's like part of it you go, yeah, they got something going on that's right.

02:07:20.000 They're figuring out something.

02:07:22.000 What I couldn't figure out about that was, where was the flashpoint where this guy became this guy?

02:07:28.000 What was the thing he did that make everybody believe?

02:07:32.000 Because that was never made clear to me.

02:07:34.000 I never understood, like, okay, I can understand people getting this excited about it, but what was the thing that he did or said?

02:07:43.000 And I never understood that part of it.

02:07:45.000 I've been reading his book, and it's actually pretty interesting.

02:07:48.000 I actually have it right here.

02:07:49.000 The Art of Living and Dying.

02:07:51.000 He wrote this book after he became Osho.

02:07:57.000 Or maybe they published it after he became Osho.

02:08:00.000 But it's a very good book.

02:08:01.000 It's weird.

02:08:02.000 He had some very good ideas.

02:08:07.000 He had some very good ideas.

02:08:12.000 Philosophically, he's a fascinating guy.

02:08:15.000 Or was a fascinating guy and there's real good evidence that his followers fucking poisoned him Like there's a lot of people I shouldn't say there's real good evidence There's a lot of people that followed the case very closely that believe that people close to him may have poisoned him and taking his taking his money So the whole thing,

02:08:35.000 you know, I mean the whole thing was just a massive mindfuck.

02:08:39.000 Those houses are still there in that place.

02:08:41.000 Like that ranch that those guys set up there.

02:08:44.000 They're all beaten down.

02:08:46.000 They showed at the end of the documentary.

02:08:47.000 And you're like, whoa!

02:08:51.000 There's an interesting another dude.

02:08:53.000 I don't know if you've ever heard of him, a guy named Dr. Malachi York.

02:08:56.000 No, who's that guy?

02:08:57.000 He started in New York doing this sort of Islamic sect thing he did, and then he brought it into aliens and ancient Hebrew stuff.

02:09:08.000 He brought all this stuff together, all these philosophies, and he made this utopian society in Georgia.

02:09:14.000 But the dude was doing mad criminal shit.

02:09:17.000 And they got him.

02:09:18.000 I don't know if there's any movie about this.

02:09:20.000 Look at him.

02:09:21.000 The smile.

02:09:22.000 But this dude was like...

02:09:24.000 Give me that picture bigger.

02:09:26.000 Look how smiley he is.

02:09:28.000 Yeah.

02:09:29.000 It's an incredibly crazy story.

02:09:32.000 Damn, they put him away for 135 years.

02:09:35.000 What did he do?

02:09:35.000 He was doing some crazy...

02:09:36.000 Stuff like sex cult stuff was going on with stuff in it.

02:09:40.000 It always becomes that.

02:09:41.000 You know...

02:09:46.000 Wow.

02:09:46.000 Who will lie on him to put him in jail?

02:09:49.000 Because I've never seen definitive...

02:09:51.000 I've read this and that, so it's like there's motherfuckers who say it was like he's set up and all this shit and that he had such a perfect society going that nobody wanted that to succeed.

02:10:01.000 But I'm pretty sure it's been proven that the dude was doing some pretty criminal shit.

02:10:05.000 Here's two things that seem to happen.

02:10:07.000 Whenever anybody runs any kind of crazy cult or any sort of weird...

02:10:16.000 Community outside the norm.

02:10:17.000 It always becomes sex.

02:10:19.000 It always becomes like the dude says, you know, we don't need this.

02:10:23.000 Yeah, I think that's what got him in trouble.

02:10:25.000 I feel like I remember some, like it being some sexual.

02:10:29.000 Yeah, there it is.

02:10:29.000 What are you saying, Jamie?

02:10:30.000 They're having sex with children.

02:10:32.000 Oh, Jesus.

02:10:33.000 That's what they got him.

02:10:33.000 If they wanted to bust him on something, if they really wanted to bring him down, that's what they would accuse him of.

02:10:40.000 Once someone accuses you of sex with children, even if you're not guilty, it's on you forever.

02:10:46.000 But the thing is, no one has ever pulled off a utopian alternative society.

02:10:52.000 Never.

02:10:53.000 It's crazy.

02:10:54.000 It's really interesting because the entire history of the United States, no one's been able to do it.

02:11:00.000 Like, they try it, they'll try it for a little bit, and then it falls apart.

02:11:03.000 Every single one of them.

02:11:05.000 That's amazing.

02:11:06.000 It's amazing that no one, whether it's Waco, no one.

02:11:09.000 It's like this.

02:11:10.000 I look at it like the line from The Matrix.

02:11:12.000 It's like, you know, our first version of The Matrix kept failing because it was all too good and too nice.

02:11:17.000 We had to fuck it up a little for everybody to accept it.

02:11:20.000 Wow.

02:11:23.000 To me, it's quite fascinating that we stick to a standard way of living, which is our modern, industrial, Western civilization.

02:11:34.000 And that is it.

02:11:35.000 And any deviation of that is scrutinized to the point where it's dismantled and the government steps in.

02:11:41.000 They always have guns, too.

02:11:42.000 They always have guns.

02:11:44.000 Way too many guns.

02:11:45.000 Way too many guns because they want to protect their way of life.

02:11:47.000 And then someone's banging people's wives and taking all the money.

02:11:51.000 Fascinating.

02:11:52.000 It's weird that not one has figured it out.

02:11:55.000 Not one group has just got it nailed.

02:11:57.000 Well, it's probably part of the thing that power corrupts.

02:12:00.000 You can't have one person that's like the almighty know-it-all of a thing because he's going to take advantage and then somebody smart within the clique is going to say, hey, this is not right and it's going to fall apart.

02:12:11.000 And it always is one person.

02:12:13.000 Or there's going to be a person underneath that wants that position and is going to do something to get it.

02:12:18.000 But it's always like one charismatic person that seems to lead these things.

02:12:23.000 Like whether it's Jonestown or whether it's Waco.

02:12:25.000 Charles Manson.

02:12:26.000 Yep.

02:12:27.000 Yep.

02:12:27.000 Yeah.

02:12:28.000 It's always one dude who's like, this society's fucked up, man.

02:12:32.000 You can take that and apply it to Hitler.

02:12:34.000 Yep.

02:12:35.000 Sure.

02:12:35.000 You know what I mean?

02:12:35.000 Yeah.

02:12:36.000 One guy gets everybody's attention and next thing you know, Yeah, it is weird, isn't it?

02:12:42.000 Like this desire to have a big daddy who got all the answers.

02:12:46.000 Who's better than us.

02:12:47.000 Because we're all so confused.

02:12:48.000 It would be very comforting if someone came along who really understood it all.

02:12:52.000 I've got the solution.

02:12:53.000 And especially if they have a big-ass, giant, crazy white beard like Osho did.

02:12:57.000 And then they bowed you everywhere.

02:13:00.000 Or if their answers blame the people you wanted to blame.

02:13:03.000 You know what I mean?

02:13:04.000 That's another good technique.

02:13:06.000 What does everybody want to be?

02:13:08.000 Okay, that's what we're going to blame it on.

02:13:09.000 We'll focus our hate.

02:13:10.000 Capitalism.

02:13:11.000 Capitalism.

02:13:12.000 The government.

02:13:13.000 A lot of these things don't work out because they have to be based on what we talked about earlier.

02:13:19.000 Doing unto others as you want them to do.

02:13:21.000 Truthfully living that lifestyle.

02:13:24.000 When it doesn't happen like that.

02:13:26.000 Cats get the power.

02:13:27.000 They get in charge.

02:13:28.000 They want to keep that power.

02:13:29.000 They want to stay in charge.

02:13:31.000 And they're not going to treat other people the way they want it.

02:13:34.000 They're going to start intimidating people because that's the way you keep people in line.

02:13:38.000 Always.

02:13:39.000 People want to be, you know, subjugated, man.

02:13:42.000 Like you're saying, they want somebody to babysit and say, oh, I can just sit over here and just be dumb?

02:13:47.000 Okay, cool.

02:13:48.000 And if no one was in charge, someone would come along that would want to be in charge.

02:13:51.000 Someone would say, you know what the problem with this organization is?

02:13:53.000 There's no leadership.

02:13:55.000 We need a strong leader.

02:13:56.000 We need someone who respects the values and principles this society was founded on, but someone who also understands how to be a leader.

02:14:03.000 And then people go, yes, yes.

02:14:07.000 That makes so much sense.

02:14:08.000 Yes.

02:14:09.000 Guide us.

02:14:10.000 They just want to...

02:14:10.000 It's the same thing.

02:14:12.000 It's what goes on in Instagram.

02:14:15.000 Everybody wants to believe that that guy's got his shit together.

02:14:18.000 That guy's got his shit together, man.

02:14:20.000 Fuck, I want to be like that.

02:14:22.000 Not knowing that behind the scenes...

02:14:24.000 He's falling apart.

02:14:25.000 He's falling the fuck apart, man.

02:14:26.000 I know.

02:14:26.000 They're just trying to make it look like they got their shit together.

02:14:29.000 I had a friend recently.

02:14:30.000 No names or anything, but like...

02:14:32.000 A friend in a couple you would never ever in your life think they were the...

02:14:39.000 I mean, I was like, man, I just want to have a relationship like yours.

02:14:42.000 You know what I mean?

02:14:43.000 And no fuss or mess or anything.

02:14:45.000 One day, I just turn around and they have their Instagram names are different.

02:14:50.000 And all of a sudden, I call them, what's up?

02:14:52.000 And he's like, oh, yeah, we just...

02:14:53.000 It didn't work.

02:14:54.000 We couldn't fake it anymore.

02:14:55.000 It was like...

02:14:57.000 I don't know if it's that serious, but it just shows you none of that shit is real, because we don't put our shit moments up for everybody to see.

02:15:06.000 Yeah.

02:15:07.000 Elon Musk talked about that, too.

02:15:09.000 The people that you see on Instagram that you think are on social media that you think are the happiest are probably pretty sad.

02:15:15.000 The people with the biggest smiles are fucking struggling the most, for sure.

02:15:17.000 Yeah, well, they're trying to project that.

02:15:19.000 They're always trying to project you the best version of what their life got.

02:15:23.000 You know what gets the best response all over my Instagram?

02:15:26.000 When I post about my family or even our struggles, like, this is rough right now.

02:15:31.000 But you share it.

02:15:32.000 You say, huh.

02:15:33.000 But we're going to get through.

02:15:34.000 We're going to be all right.

02:15:34.000 Well, that's one of the things that people like about you, you know, is that you're real.

02:15:38.000 You're not, I mean, even though you're a famous guy who's been a successful musician for a long time.

02:15:42.000 He's kind of famous.

02:15:42.000 I used to be famous.

02:15:43.000 But you're you.

02:15:45.000 You're a normal dude, you know?

02:15:47.000 I take that as the highest compliment.

02:15:49.000 You should.

02:15:50.000 It is the highest compliment.

02:15:50.000 I take that as a seriously high compliment.

02:15:52.000 I gotta wrap this podcast up because I have to shit my pants.

02:15:54.000 Alright, before we do, tomorrow night, the Brooklyn Bowl.

02:15:58.000 Friday, August 5th at the Brooklyn Bowl, UFC Ultimate Pre-Party.

02:16:02.000 T. Woodley is hosting.

02:16:03.000 Oh, beautiful.

02:16:04.000 Oh yeah, Psycho Realm and my man Evidence.

02:16:07.000 If you want to get a discount, UFC Unfiltered is the code.

02:16:11.000 Put it in there.

02:16:11.000 Come see us tomorrow night.

02:16:12.000 It's gonna be the bomb.

02:16:14.000 And get it, ladies and gentlemen.

02:16:16.000 Everlast, Whitey Ford, House of Pain, available now, everywhere.

02:16:20.000 Thank you, my brother.

02:16:21.000 Thanks for having me.

The Joe Rogan Experience - October 04, 2018

Joe Rogan Experience #1180 - Everlast

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