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00:00:55.000One of the things that I realized is that if you work out, like I'm working out, like fucking three hours a day, because I'm literally trying to kill Bert.
00:01:03.000I want Bert to try to keep up with me.
00:04:06.000Like, I'll run, and then I'll come back from running, and I'll kickbox, and after I kickbox, I'll get on the elliptical machine, or I'll lift weights, and after I lift weights, and then I'll get on the fucking echo bike.
00:04:16.000You know what the echo bike is, all those airdyne things?
00:04:18.000And then I'll get on the VersaClimber, and then I'll get on the rowing machine, and I just do rounds.
00:04:22.000When I can't row anymore, look at this fucking puddle I left behind.
00:04:25.000This is a puddle on my elliptical machine.
00:05:46.000But what I was gonna say is, all bullshit aside, jokes, and I do love Bernie, and I do love everybody else doing this, but all jokes aside, I have zero anxiety.
00:06:34.000And it's just like your body's looking for trouble that isn't there, looking for danger that isn't there, looking for something that's going to steal your food or invade your village.
00:06:51.000For all the years that we were running away from wild animals and other tribes and all that shit, I think your body and your brain have a certain amount on reserve, always looking for some sort of danger.
00:07:06.000Like, you ever see a deer in the wild that's like...
00:13:27.000Yeah, if you go to his Twitter page and you find it from yesterday, that's where I saw it and There's an actual video that goes along with it.
00:15:41.000Why can't this person wear, like, if a woman was beautiful and she wore, like, a dark red lipstick, but she was talking brilliant science, I wouldn't have an issue with it.
00:15:51.000So why do I have an issue with this glam-roo fella?
00:17:01.000Yeah, but this is attention-grabbing because they want you to...
00:17:05.000Okay, these people, the people who want to be larger than life that do things like this to express who they really are, that they want to have a discussion.
00:17:14.000Whether or not they want to have true discourse, they want you to go, what is this?
00:21:06.000This whole thing with Kanye and this whole push about getting Kaepernick to have lunch with Trump, it's brilliant.
00:21:12.000I think he used the whole platform of SNL just to get Trump to go, I love Kanye.
00:21:18.000He wants Trump to be so in love with, Kanye wants Trump to love him so much that he's willing to actually take a meeting with someone he's been publicly shitting on for a year now.
00:21:27.000All Trump has been doing is saying Kaepernick is a terrible representation of this country, a bad football player, a bad person.
00:23:30.000And he's giving them all these confusing directions while he's in full riot gear holding a gun.
00:23:36.000Apparently the guy had a fake pistol like a water pistol or a water gun and was holding it out the window and someone saw it and they said there's a guy with a gun so they came in there Ready to shoot somebody already, and then they see this guy, but the guy was clearly not a threat.
00:23:52.000And this guy had already been in trouble for other police brutality, and then got kicked off the force.
00:27:13.000But the idea about a nation, about everybody being on the team together, is that we're supposed to support these ideals that this song is about, I pledge of allegiance to the flag, all this jazz.
00:27:26.000I mean, that's what we're doing, right?
00:27:26.000I know, but I find it so odd that things have anything to do with one another.
00:27:29.000I said it on stage one time that I was like, it's a game that has no bearing on the future of the United States of America.
00:29:50.000Do you think you would do Sober October and take a day off for your birthday and then get back to sober and then owe a day at the end of the month?
00:35:14.000Now, if you want to tell me that some people like to identify as a woman and you should talk to them as a woman and give them a woman's name, sure.
00:41:49.000I examine the things that I think and say and how I interact with people, and I don't always get it right.
00:41:55.000But when I see him doing that, holding court in front of the President of the United States with a MAGA hat on, like in front of all these fucking people taking pictures of him, I'm like, this is preposterous.
00:45:53.000Seems like he had, and I like the guy a lot, but it seems like he had these ideas about Trump and now he's always just trying to defend them with some sort of circular logic and weird phrasing and Yeah.
00:46:03.000He's a super smart guy, but he never says a single negative thing about Trump.
00:46:07.000It's always, well, he's a brilliant negotiator, and what he's doing is strategy, and he's very persuasive, and I'm like, yeah, is he?
00:46:15.000Or is he just flying by the seat of his pants because he's a fucking maniac, and are you just trying to justify all the other shit that you've said about him that's really good?
00:47:44.000And then afterwards they hung out, and the paparazzi, I picture them smiling and hugging and all shit, you know, in the streets, because Hollywood is fake as fuck.
00:47:50.000Like, she does this game, but it's like, she's not fucking racist.
00:48:08.000There's a map of categorical porn percentages in the United States, and the highest percentage of white and black porn is in the South, is in like the Bible Belt.
00:48:34.000Or after the show, Joe had to sneak out fast.
00:48:36.000No, it was like in the Bible Belt, there is a chunk of the highest amount of black dudes fucking white, like black on white porn, is in the most conservative parts of the country.
00:48:45.000Well, my take on it was that it wasn't black guys that were watching this.
00:57:16.000These things from Western civilization, and Steve's got these modern Hoyt bow, and they're bow fishing in the river for these things called a paku, which is this brilliant red fish, this beautiful red fish.
00:57:35.000It's like a combination of Western civilization, you know, because they've got like some Western stuff mixed in with this culture that really hasn't changed that much in thousands and thousands of years.
00:57:48.000But then they find these petroglyphs that are by this waterfall and they don't know any...
00:57:53.000He's like, where do you think these came from?
00:59:25.000So they have these skulls dressed in clothes.
00:59:28.000What they do is they reconfigure the bones of what they think the human was, you know, what they look like, and they put them in cloth and stuff and stand them against the wall.
01:04:04.000Monks in the spiritual path would starve themselves for almost a decade, subsisting on water, seeds, and nuts.
01:04:10.000Then, they'd be sealed inside the statue and ingest roots, pine bark, and a toxic tree sap-based tea for another 1,000 days, eating and breathing through a small tube.
01:04:24.000Eventually, death would come, and the monks, mummified in this manner, were said to have reached enlightenment.
01:08:17.000I'm gonna live off seeds for a decade, then I'm gonna seal myself in a fucking statue, then I'm gonna drink poison pee, and then I'm gonna die choking a death on my own shit!
01:11:00.000Well, there are some monks that can do some pretty cool athletic shit because they don't get any pussy and they just eat nuts and do push-ups.
01:12:23.000So usually I lift a little bit and then I run, or vice versa, or I'll run and then I'll lift to finish, but the running just like, I think it exhausts my body.
01:16:24.000Nobody born in the 50s was ever pulled out.
01:16:28.000I mean, like everyone, that's just what you did.
01:16:30.000And then disease in the 70s and 80s spawned this idea of condoms and protection.
01:16:38.000And then people started learning, maybe we'll just not come inside of people.
01:16:41.000Well, they say that one of the biggest changes in culture was female birth control because finally women had control of their own reproductive cycle.
01:18:20.000I really wouldn't know what the fuck would be the cause of that.
01:18:22.000But I would think that it would have something to do with their body wanting something different than the baby that they think is inside them.
01:19:50.000He's rich, and he's handsome, and he's friendly, and he's a giant man, and he's probably got a huge hog, and a woman is naturally attracted to go towards him.
01:20:55.000Well, it's almost like this whole fucking Kavanaugh thing and all this shit, and I don't want to even get into all that fucking diatribe and nonsense, but...
01:21:01.000The one thing I will say that I don't think anybody talks about is the sexual and social psychology of men and women.
01:21:08.000Nobody wants to talk about when you are developing as a young teen, especially a boy, and you're learning about sexuality and you're confused and embarrassed and scared.
01:21:16.000The way that men and women interact in those years from 12 to 16, it's insanely unstable.
01:21:27.000Not as hormonally aggressive technically at that time than men are, right?
01:21:31.000So these men are fucking hormonal freaks and they want to do things with these women but they're not supposed to kind of and it's like kind of okay and they don't know how to do it and they're these weird blurred lines of women want to be accepted and cool in their circle so you know it's like When someone hooks up with someone early on,
01:21:48.000when two people hook up young, and it's like, ooh, and it's sketchy and weird.
01:21:51.000Sometimes the girl gets labeled a slut.
01:22:07.000But there are these weird subset rules.
01:22:09.000But every guy that does it, that's just what we want to do.
01:22:12.000But I don't, there's no explanation over like how we got to the point of getting comfortable there because men are just these horny freaks that don't know what to do with the thing.
01:22:21.000So there are so many blurred lines of sexuality in relationships at that age.
01:23:53.000No one wants to talk about, and again, I'm not trying to dive into that Kavanaugh bullshit, but people are young and they do fucking crazy shit when you are hormonally at your beginnings and you're confused and weird.
01:24:05.000I mean, guys know, when guys start masturbating, it's this disgusting, weird, secret, creepy, gross, sad, undercover secret.
01:24:13.000Yeah, you don't tell your friends when you're in high school.
01:24:17.000And all of that is swirling inside your head over sexuality and then when you do get a chance with a girl, it's uncomfortable, it's awkward, it's weird.
01:24:23.000Again, I'm not talking about whatever fucking he did.
01:24:25.000I'm just saying you're already in this weird state of men are fucked up when they're sexually reaching this new peak of their life that they just want to like jerk off and come and fucking.
01:24:35.000And how much information are they getting from their parents?
01:24:42.000So you don't know borders, you don't know rules, you don't understand.
01:24:45.000And also, our society perpetuates, if you want to be real fucking honest, our society perpetuates this weird pull and push of like, you know, no, I don't want...
01:24:54.000You know that fucking song, Baby, It's Cold Outside?
01:25:37.000So the thing that nobody wants to fucking talk about at all, and again, I'm not fucking saying anything other than this is a perpetuation of our culture for a long time of like this pull and take and tease.
01:25:47.000A tease is a game that women play, and men play too, of like, you know, look at that, I really can't say it's cold outside.
01:27:19.000There's a woman who had a really brutal take on this.
01:27:22.000That was on Jordan Peterson's Twitter page.
01:27:25.000If you go to Jordan Peterson's Twitter page, there's a woman who is...
01:27:30.000I don't know what she does, but she talks about how this woman who is accusing...
01:27:36.000Brett Kavanaugh teaches at this predominantly women's college where 79% of the students are women.
01:27:45.000The vast majority of the professors are women.
01:27:48.000And social justice is the number one thing that they promote at the school.
01:27:54.000A head of education, a head of everything.
01:27:55.000When you look at the school's list of what it aims to accomplish and how to educate the students, Promoting social justice is one of the primary things.
01:28:06.000It's the first one above everything else.
01:28:09.000And the idea is that why would this woman risk everything?
01:28:12.000And what this woman's take is, who's criticizing this, is that she's not risking anything.
01:28:24.000She's like, this woman has no recollection, doesn't remember how she got home, doesn't remember where the party was, but does remember that someone may have tried to do something to her.
01:28:34.000You know, I'm not a big fan of criticizing people who come out and say someone did something to them, or try to do something to them, because you don't know.
01:29:35.000From what I understood, and by the way, this is something I distanced myself from, because it was so overwhelming that I was like, oh God, that he held her down while the other dude was in the room, and he kind of helped him hold her down, and he had his penis on her, or...
01:31:02.000It was surely the most explosive and surreal confirmation hearing since Clarence Thomas and Anita Hill in 1991. A nominee from the Supreme Court was asked if he was a gang rapist and a blackout drunk while defending himself by describing how long he...
01:31:40.000Unlike Ms. Hill, 27 years ago, Dr. Blasey, a psychology professor in California, was treated gingerly in the Republicans who feared...
01:31:47.000Okay, this is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
01:31:49.000Thursday, she became a very human being, telling a terrible story about Judge Kavanaugh in compelling terms that brought many women to tears and transformed the battle for the Supreme Court.
01:31:59.000Okay, well, see, that's all I needed to hear.
01:34:07.000Listen, this is the whole thing that I think we're talking about.
01:34:11.000You're allowed to see truth on all sides of all of these issues.
01:34:16.000I don't think you ever have to be so staunch about anything.
01:34:18.000I disagree with people that are so staunch about just being like, this is the end of the discussion, you're only this way or not.
01:34:24.000It's like, no man, I don't know all the stories, I don't know all the truths of that Kavanaugh bullshit, I don't know all the truths of anything.
01:34:31.000That woman coming forward, I tend to believe a woman that's going to go out of her way.
01:35:14.000But these other women, Dr. Ford and these other women, they're not doing it for the fucking attention.
01:35:19.000She's doing that because there is a truth in there of what happened and I believe that.
01:35:22.000I don't know what it is, but I believe there's something fucked up that went down and unfortunately, we are in the middle of this What can be done?
01:35:44.000When you're dealing with 35 years ago, if you tried to ask me, you know, what happened when you and this girl were making out in the backseat of a car 35 years ago, like...
01:37:43.000I mean, I remember the first time I had sex without, like, raw, without a condom, was my brain was like, alright, there's a strategy to this, you gotta be able to last out the window.
01:38:08.000I probably had a little bit in my underwear.
01:38:10.000You know, I used to have a bit about that.
01:38:12.000Like, you ever take your underwear off and there's this stream of sperm that's somehow or another from the tip of your dick to your underwear?
01:39:31.000This is my father embarrassed the shit out of me.
01:39:34.000I don't know if I've told this on this thing, but the most embarrassing thing my father did to me, we were eating dinner.
01:39:38.000When I first started jerking off and figuring it out and shit, you know, my dad, at dinner, in front of my family, my dad was like, you've been spending a lot of time in the bathroom.
01:44:20.000When someone says, what does a creep look like, I go, yeah, like a fucking three-quarter balding glasses weirdo with a strange mustache or mutton chops.
01:46:44.000I was at a red light this morning, and the light turned green, and some dude just whizzed in between me and some guy who was about to change lanes.
01:46:53.000So, like, I'm in this lane, and I'm driving straight, and this guy was about to change lanes, and this guy went, and I went, oh!
01:48:17.000I think years of acting and stuff laid in his brain and now that he's off the edge, I think he feels like he has to be a caricature to feel normal.
01:49:03.000I know it's not funny to laugh at, but my god, he just looks...
01:49:06.000When you see him when he's young, you know, he's kind of like a normal-looking dude, like an okay-looking dude, and then now you're like, Jesus fucking Christ.
01:50:52.000There's only 19 states that require it.
01:50:54.000There is no motorcycle helmet use law in three states, Illinois, Iowa, New Hampshire, but it says currently 19 states and D.C. have laws requiring all riders.
01:51:30.000Wait a minute, just Google helmet laws in Colorado.
01:51:34.000I've seen people ride motorcycles in Colorado with no helmet.
01:51:39.000Although helmets are proven to save lives in Colorado, however, if the motorcycle operator or passengers are under 18, they must wear helmets.
01:52:50.000We're going to come to a time within the next 20 years where automated cars are going to be the norm and you're not going to be allowed to drive.
01:52:56.000There's going to be states where you're not allowed to drive yourself.
01:53:24.000One of my favorite conspiracy theories was that there was an actual man that fucked Elon's wife that was in the suit of the rocket man that they shot into space.
01:56:00.000I just don't like the fact that Bert is on these medications that all his health problems could be completely resolved if he just didn't drink so much.
01:56:09.000To take medication so that you can drink...
01:56:42.000And so they put him on these statins, and he started doing Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
01:56:47.000When he started doing Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, he lost a shitload of weight, changed his diet radically, cut back on his drinking, and got off the statins.
01:57:49.000People have been using bare fat for ages for lard to cook pies and He was actually talking about it on a podcast recently, he has a great podcast as well called Meat Eater, same name, and on the podcast they were discussing how fat was used,
01:58:06.000that's him there, rendering this bear fat.
01:58:10.000This is a particularly interesting episode because this was all about bears who eat blueberries, so all that fat had a purple tone to it, a purple hue to it, because the bears had been subsisting on blueberries.
02:01:31.000I mean, in Chicago, like, only when you go to the forest preserves or the lakes do you get to see deer, and other than that, you're like, that's it.
02:01:36.000I mean, there's nothing else in Illinois I'd see.
02:01:38.000How many people do you think every year get fucked up by a buffalo in Yellowstone?
02:06:21.000I see a business for them creating personal sex robots, for sure.
02:06:26.000Yeah, but this is a niche, niche market.
02:06:29.000I gotta tell you, I know this has always been a big hype for the past couple years of sex robots, sex robots, and people are like, well, that's gonna be the end.
02:09:12.000That goes back to this creepy psychology of what the figure in men's minds socially that, like, has been pushed out, that you want this hourglass thing and...
02:10:39.000I guess the idea is that the kind of people that are going to buy these are the kind of people that are either addicted to porn or anime porn.
02:10:48.000I would say it's because they don't get anything ever.
02:10:51.000Go click on the image one more time, Jamie.
02:14:23.000One of the weirdest things that's come out of this podcast is, and again, this is not just for men, the podcast is for whoever the fuck likes it, but Men don't get a whole lot of examples of men that are allowed to just be themselves.
02:15:41.000We all know when someone's faking something.
02:15:44.000Something when they're giving in totally pressure and pretending like Actors use the word wonderful to describe a woman's performance what we were talking about wonderful.
02:15:55.000Yeah, it was very good too much goddamn fake shit in this world So one of the more interesting things that's come out of this podcast is because I don't have a person telling me what to do, and I can just be myself.
02:17:06.000There's only one good piece of it at all.
02:17:09.000If you're a piece of shit, like Harvey Weinstein, if you're a fucking turd and you rape women, then you're gonna get got and it's good that you got got.
02:19:46.000She accused Weinstein of forcing her to perform oral sex, but a prior employee of Evans turned over personal writings she'd left in the company's computer, which appealed to contradict the grand jury testimony.
02:20:24.000Yeah, and when one of them's lying, they've got to do what they did and throw that case out.
02:20:29.000But then he's going to say, look, it's all fabricated.
02:20:33.000Well, there's people that will be opportunists in the face of a scandal.
02:20:38.000So there's a scandal where someone has actually legitimately done awful things, and someone is going to stand up and say, he did awful things to me, when really they just fucked the guy because they wanted to advance their career.
02:22:22.000And they're not lying because in their brain, that is literally what their brain has...
02:22:26.000Kind of categorized and formulated was that thing did happen.
02:22:30.000They've told themselves that enough or it's been convinced in their own mind that it did happen.
02:22:34.000Someone was trying to explain that about OJ. They were saying that OJ has lied so many times about what happened that night that he might, in his own mind, actually believe he didn't do it.
02:22:46.000Well, the human memory, like Neil deGrasse Tyson was trying to explain this to me, that when you're talking about memory, you are literally talking about the worst form of evidence that we know of.
02:24:17.000The internet is just writing things and you're not being there with the person and talking to the person.
02:24:22.000So you don't know if the people are writing things are reasonable.
02:24:24.000You don't know if the people are angry.
02:24:27.000There's no legitimization to the internet anymore because it can come from everyone anywhere at any time.
02:24:34.000And the problem I have with these growth movements that get crazy is you're like, are they talking to anybody else besides their little internal group?
02:24:43.000Like, are you talking to anybody other than the people that you know?
02:24:46.000Because if you're not, you're not getting any sort of outside opinion or sources.
02:24:49.000You're just listening to people that agree with you already.
02:24:52.000The echo chamber thing is so annoying to me.
02:25:04.000There are some people that do a good job, I don't want to mention names, but there are some people that I follow online that do a great job of trying to have good discourse of right and left.
02:25:35.000I try to be very, very balanced, but I lean way more left than I do right.
02:25:40.000Way more left, but I get way more accused of being someone who favors the right by left people than I do being someone who favors the left by right people.
02:26:08.000But I get accused way more of being a right-wing person by people on the left than I do even of being a left-wing person of people on the right when I say I'm left-wing.
02:32:03.000He sensed movements in his cheek, which then translated into a software program that allowed him to navigate his system without his hands, and then eventually turned into his text-to-speech.
02:32:16.000Text-to-speak functionality which takes text and he writes and turns into speech in his iconic voice.
02:32:22.000Yeah, he apparently he liked that voice and didn't want to upgrade it because like Siri like if you talk to Siri like who do you do you have a specific kind of Siri like my Siri is an Australian lady like hey Siri What's cracking bitch?
02:39:23.000Yeah, Boston's got that fucking angle.
02:39:26.000Uptalk is a recognizable way of talking that lets you know that I'm going to agree with everything that is in the zeitgeist of left-wing progressive technology.
02:43:08.000They released a Pixel 3 with a new speaker dock motherfucker of a thing that...
02:43:14.000The new update on Spotify has a built-in thing so you can ask for a song to be played because it's not probably built into Siri or Android.
02:43:26.000But you have to allow the microphone to be on.