Tony Hinchcliffe talks about his journey to recovery from anorexia and bulimia. He talks about how he overcame his addiction to drugs and alcohol and how he turned it all around. He also shares the story of how he got his life back on track and is now a full time father and husband to his daughter and son-in-law. He also talks about the importance of a good recovery program and how important it is to have a support network to help you on your journey to sobriety. Finally, he talks about what it takes to be a good father to his kids and how they have helped him overcome his addictions. Thank you Tony for being a rockstar in this episode and I appreciate you for stepping up to the plate and doing your part to help us all get back on the road to recovery. I hope you enjoy the episode and it brings you a lot of love and support from your friends and family. Love ya. -Jake & Joe XOXO, Jake & Joe xoxo -The Snake -Tony & The Crew -D.D. Jake & The Snake Jake Joe & the Crew The Snake - Dallas Steve DDP Yoga - D.P. & much more and much more! Thanks for listening to this episode! - The Snake & the crew & the support you guys are amazing!! - Thank You, Thank You for being here! - Jake and the support us! -Jake and The Snake! -Davids - Jake & the team . - DDPD. P. & the gang -the crew - the team at The Snake and the crew at DDP - Dallas & the rest of the Crew at the podcast - Thank you so much! - Thank You so much for all the support and support we got here! Thankyou for being out there supporting us on this journey and all the love & support we've been getting out there! -JOSH & the love you're so much love you back! - - P.A. - Thankyou so much - KEVY & DADDY! - DADDYYY! Jake, DDPY, D.J. & DDSG -JACOB & D.B. & JUICY - JOSEPH
00:02:44.000Here's a guy that could be handling it a totally different way, but he still picks up a phone and calls somebody and thanks them for buying the program.
00:02:55.000Yeah, he does, because he wants to know.
00:02:57.000And the next thing you know, he's been on a 25-minute phone call, and they're sending him photos of the before picture, and then he wants them to look at him in the after picture six months from now.
00:03:07.000The stories, he's got a million of them.
00:03:33.000By the end of the video, this guy's running.
00:03:36.000He's running, he's doing full yoga poses, and it's these incremental steps, incremental steps, but he kept getting better, kept getting better, kept getting better, and that is, it's so symbolic of like your journey in life.
00:03:50.000If you just decide to give up and decide to just...
00:04:17.000See, Dallas, you know, he came up with the idea, him and Steve, you, who's a business manager, whatever, and they said, look, we're going to bring you back through this.
00:05:01.000Hell, the time I went in for four months, man, I go across the stage and get my diploma, so to speak, from finishing this course, being in rehab for four months.
00:05:11.000I go out the other side and pick up a pay phone and call my dealer.
00:05:14.000He meets me outside the damn door, man, with...
00:06:26.000But see, he would take, you know, like, if he had to go do a con or go do some music, you know, go do a movie or something, he had people that worked for DDP Yoga, specifically Garrett and a young kid named Dylan, who I really got the kid messed up,
00:06:43.000you know, because he had to share a room with me.
00:07:23.000The solidarity and the camaraderie that you guys all have, and Razor Ramon as well, when you guys were all in that house together, the experiences that you guys shared, working together and then still in life.
00:07:37.000You guys have a bond that's very, very...
00:10:54.000Even when Dallas offered me to pay the whole trip, and you'll move in with me, I'm going to feed you the best damn food on the planet, we're going to get you healthy, we're going to get the bullshit out of your system.
00:11:05.000I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm going to last about a week.
00:11:08.000Because I knew me, and I'm like, dude, if I make it a week, I'm going to be doing good.
00:11:12.000Because at the time, I couldn't do 24 hours not doing cocaine.
00:11:17.000If you wanted me to get up out of bed, bring me some cocaine.
00:14:43.000And because I went through some ugly shit as a kid, being sexually molested, my sister being molested too, and then my sister kidnapped and murdered, and we got all these things thrown in there, and I was hating myself because I didn't protect my sister better.
00:15:34.000When you've been sexually molested, there is no good moment, man.
00:15:39.000And that screwed my head up, and it still messes with my head.
00:15:43.000I desperately, desperately want to have a relationship with a woman.
00:15:49.000You know, a true relationship, finally.
00:15:53.000It's 63. Because I did have relationships before, but I was constantly sabotaging them because I didn't trust women.
00:16:03.000Because the last one, she raped me and beat me and threatened me and told her that my dad killed me because, you know, my dad was seven foot and weighed 425 pounds, so he could get the job done.
00:16:15.000But I just wanted my dad to be proud of me, so all these things are factoring in.
00:16:19.000I'm keeping quiet while the wife beats me and has me do her and then beats me afterwards.
00:16:24.000Dude, sex ain't sex if you're doing it like that.
00:18:25.000Go out and have three or four wrestling matches.
00:18:28.000Let's go to the, if I take, when I mess my neck up in 89, when I'll give you the guitar, when I wanted to go to My regimen was to wake up, go downstairs, start the coffee maker, take 10 milligram Percocet,
00:18:45.000throw them in my mouth, chew them up, And wash them down with coffee, then hit the gym.
00:19:10.000Things that make you go to sleep wake me up.
00:19:13.000Things that wake you up put me to sleep.
00:19:15.000So the pain of pro wrestling, which is probably one of the most brutal professions that a person can embark in, and think about all the days that you were on the road, all the many, many matches, all that physical pain probably justified the drugs even more.
00:21:22.000I might have been going through withdrawals at the time, but no, I didn't drink or any of that shit before a match, and I didn't like it, but I did it that way because it's my duty and my thing is another wrestler to take care of my opponent.
00:21:46.000I noticed that if I have a fun set or something like that, doing stand-up comedy, that I like to have...
00:21:53.000If I tried something new and it went extra good, I like to have an extra drink or two that night.
00:21:59.000Would it be like that for you in wrestling?
00:22:01.000Would you get more messed up if it was like Madison Square Garden?
00:22:05.000No, I just did it until I went to sleep.
00:22:08.000Because sleep was such a premium back then.
00:22:11.000Back in my day, we were wrestling seven days a week.
00:23:01.000He told me before when I first got here, he's like, I pulled my back the other day, but I don't want to mention it in front of Jake the Snake because it's embarrassing.
00:24:33.000I wrestled steamboat 93 days straight.
00:24:38.000And about 60 days in, I had to call my wife and get her to come take me around because I'd gotten dumbed out to the point that I couldn't think.
00:24:49.000So I'd get to the airport, know that they want tickets, but I have no idea where they're at.
00:25:38.000They say there would have been another war if they'd have brought those troops home coming from concentration camps for the Germans or the Japanese and we'd have seen them the way they were.
00:25:49.000And of course now that you can see some of those old films Was it hard to get them?
00:26:26.000What they would do is we would get booked in Hershey, Pennsylvania.
00:26:34.000Now, when somebody told me this story first, I'm like, this is an old wives tale.
00:26:38.000Because shit like that don't really happen.
00:26:42.000You get to Tallentown Hershey, you go to the locker room, and all of a sudden, somebody says, oh, they need to see you in locker room three.
00:29:25.000If I'm ever laying around with a girl and I'm having a little problem in the wood ski department, you know, it happens at 63. Ah, you put that on.
00:29:32.000You know, and I put the video on, and instantly I'm kicking her ass, man.
00:41:36.000You know, I've been bitten now, so I'll tell you what I'm going to do.
00:41:39.000Somebody call 911. I'm just going to explain to you what I'm feeling right now, so if you ever get bitten, you'll know what you're going to expect to feel after you've been bitten.
00:42:20.000I've seen a video or a website, rather, detailing this kid who got bit in the arm, and then they had to get him somewhere to safety, but it took hours.
00:42:30.000They had a med vacuum in a helicopter.
00:42:32.000His whole arm rotted away down to the bone.
00:42:35.000So they had to take meat from his legs.
00:44:06.000So, of course, that's who Albert, Albert was the guy with the Komodo dragons.
00:44:10.000So he had some pot that he was growing up in the mountains and he took one of the dragons with him to get it out in the sunlight.
00:44:20.000So they put it in this fucking station wagon and they go up in the mountains and they had to walk to their place where they got the stuff growing so they close the car door up and leave the window down about that much and take off.
00:45:33.000You know, those things are so ruthless that the little baby Komodo dragons smear shit on themselves so that the grown-ups don't eat them, so that their parents don't eat them.
00:45:42.000They roll around in shit so that their parents don't eat them.
00:45:46.000Because when Komodo dragons are eating intestines, they shake the shit out of intestines.
00:49:14.000I was riding down the road listening Monday Night Football and I'm like, fuck it, that'd be too much, man, if a fucking wrestler, you know, smoking some weed, you know, carry a snake around and fuck with the other wrestlers.
00:49:28.000And drinking and more and more and more.
00:49:32.000And the next day I woke up and I'm like, that fucking idea I had last night about carrying a fucking snake.
00:53:32.000And the one video where he runs to the ring and is on his way and dives into it and slams his thigh into the side of the ring, blows his fucking quad off the bone.
00:53:44.000And then still plays it out and does it sitting down.
00:53:47.000The guy must have been in unbelievable agony.
00:53:53.000And he's just sitting there, sitting on his butt, and everybody has to improvise for this guy sitting on his ass because he blew his quads off of his bone.
01:04:55.000But the first night he's in, we'd already been there two nights, and these people come in, these Japs come in, and they start fucking yakety-yakety in Japanese to this other guy, and they're in English, transferred, and boom, boom.
01:05:08.000Bottom line is, he will not stay in the same fucking dressing room as Jake.
01:12:44.000Piper told me when I was friends with Piper, he told me that when Hogan did that slam on Andre, just like he could feel it just going all the way up.
01:13:41.000He did a horrible thing to me one night in the ring, and he knocked me down, and I'm on my back, and he stands on my hair, and then reached down and grabbed my arms and pulled, and just ripped my fucking hair out.
01:16:14.000Andre chases them, but when he gets out of the bar, they are in their car about to pull away, and Andre literally goes under the car that's out front of the bar and flips it over.
01:16:23.000There's a cop a half a block away who pulls up.
01:16:44.000He could do a backflip standing on the top rope and do a flip and land on his feet when he first started.
01:16:51.000But I'm wrestling him and we had this little thing we'd do where he'd get me in the corner and he'd just throw that weight into me, you know, which is pretty easy to register.
01:19:46.000And the guy stood up about nine rows back, reached inside of his jacket, pulled out a nine millimeter, and got three shots off before they got him.
01:23:07.000There's a big difference between the amount of punishment that you would take pro wrestling and the amount of punishment you take sparring or fighting.
01:23:40.000I had to check and see what I was going to eat and make sure I just put new polygrip in and you start eating a steak with polygrip and boom, it breaks loose and next thing you know your fucking mouth's bleeding because it broke loose and you're having to go to the bathroom.
01:24:14.000But, you know, I got real fortunate that some people out of Dallas, and they got one in Vegas also, G4, it's called, they said, look, dude, We see you're having problems.
01:25:10.000It's hard to medicate me and put me out because I raised those levels too high.
01:25:16.000So during while I was out and they were pulling teeth, getting ready to put the things in to screw into, evidently during all that process I just stood up and started pissing on the doctor and pissing on everybody in the room and chasing them and a complete fucking idiot.
01:25:35.000I sobered up, but see, they had to give me so much shit to put me out that I keep moving this bullshit going, hey, fuck you, doc, and I'm fucking getting my dick.
01:25:43.000But this is, I'm saying, this is like during your sobriety period.
01:29:01.000Well, just think about how many people you touched over your entire career, and how many people ran away from home when the macho man got bit.
01:29:09.000And it's crazy, because back then, everybody's like, this is the scariest guy, we hate this guy, boo this guy, and then it's like, years later they realize, whoa, that guy moved me.
01:29:22.000It's like originally everybody was afraid of you or hated you, but it's all in retrospect when they realize, holy shit, this guy, I can help this guy.
01:29:36.000The scene in the movie when it's unexpected and the guys are in the ring and they play the music and you start walking out with a bag and a snake in it.
01:31:18.000Because I know what it's like not to be able to say no.
01:31:22.000There's no worse feeling in the world, man.
01:31:25.000Here you got something on this hand that's going to kill you.
01:31:30.000Or you got life over here in this green pastures and all this happy, happy, happy, and you're going to have a good relationship with a woman if you just fucking...
01:31:39.000You know what's ironic is that your movie, your film, your story, and who you are right now is one of the best Just Say No commercials I could ever do.
01:32:00.000I mean, this is one of the more powerful things about that film, is not just that you succeeded, but that you tried and failed several times until you succeeded, and you detailed all of it, all the warts and all, every single step of the way.
01:32:58.000Because I'm getting to connect with people that are needing help.
01:33:02.000People come to the show, I tell them, hey, give me the icky, man.
01:33:06.000Afterwards, we'll go find a place and talk.
01:33:08.000And some of the stories I have, man, make my story...
01:33:13.000Sound like a fucking walk in the park, man.
01:33:16.000I mean, some of the horror stories I've heard, what people are going through, and suffering through, and their story, their pain, and their anger.
01:33:25.000You know, my shit looks weak compared to what these people...
01:33:29.000And I'm getting to hear this, and I'm getting to help them find the way.
01:33:33.000And then I get to hear the stories of the success stories.
01:33:36.000Hey, man, I didn't start getting clean until I heard about you starting to get clean.
01:37:10.000I remember hoping, because I had just seen that movie, I'm like, oh man, I hope that...
01:37:15.000I hope he's still in good shape and everything.
01:37:17.000I hope everything's cool, because I know how hard it is to stay clean as an addict.
01:37:21.000And, my God, if he wasn't just, and, you know, you as well here today, it's like, just completely present, not, you can't even tell you've probably had 20,000 concussions in your life, you know?
01:37:36.000I mean, just there, looking around, laughing, smiling.
01:37:41.000My mind was blown that he was as present, if not more, than a lot of the other...
01:38:54.000But he was walking on a crosswalk to connect the two buildings and I'd already went out the bottom and I was going to the car and he's like beating on the fucking window.
01:39:00.000And this is like a full hip replacement where they sever the top of the femur and they put a new joint They screw it.
01:41:52.000That's got to be great for you, too, because at the beginning of the film, one of the things that was evident was that you missed the whole excitement of performing.
01:42:49.000Now I just write bullet points and I can pull them back up, which is so nice to do, you know, because I was at a point, man, with my speech, I wouldn't finish sentences.
01:44:15.000There's classes that will teach you stand-up.
01:44:18.000And the good thing about it is, at least you start doing it.
01:44:23.000Whether or not they're actually teaching you anything is very debatable.
01:44:26.000And the things that they are teaching is all in-ring technique and tosses and slams.
01:44:33.000And the thing that us diehard wrestling fans now miss with the product is exactly what you specialized in, which is psychology, cutting promos.
01:44:47.000I mean, he once cut a promo, I remember, against Hulk Hogan where you said something like, if you plant grass, grass will grow.
01:48:45.000I wanted to be someone that abused a child because I'd been abused and I knew what that shit was like and I knew what it did to my fucking head.
01:48:56.000Getting right and getting sober, learning to talk about it helps a lot.
01:49:12.000I don't have to go medicate with it right now.
01:49:15.000When you're talking to these people that you're also helping, you meet them, that also have these problems, how many of them have also been abused?
01:49:24.000You know what it's like to be sitting at a Comic-Con and look out there and there's people in your line and Your eye contact contacts a kid.
01:49:36.000You look at the kid and they look at you and you're like, you poor motherfucker, you're going through it too, aren't you?
01:50:30.000I remember I told somebody one time that probably the one thing that helped me in my early life about going through all that sexual abuse and bullshit was I learned how to lie at a very young age.
01:50:42.000The reason I learned that a lot is because it helped get me to a safe place.
01:53:12.000You're a powerful man to have gone through all this and to be able to express it so honestly to everybody.
01:53:19.000I mean, that is an amazing thing because The pain of your experiences has not stopped you from expressing all of the downsides of it, but also that you've come out of it on the other end in a very positive way.
01:53:36.000I mean, you're a great guy to be around.
01:53:58.000Because I don't want them to have to do the things that I did to quit feeling it.
01:54:04.000Because I'll tell you, man, it's a whole lot easier to pick up cocaine and forget about it than it is to go through counseling, go through this, go through reliving it 25 fucking times.
01:54:17.000You know, you go into counseling and they say, okay, tell us exactly how it happened.
01:54:42.000What was ultimately the thing that allowed you to stay clean?
01:54:46.000When you had faltered five or six times, whatever it was, what was ultimately the thing that allowed you to get past all this and just embrace sobriety and being healthy?
01:54:57.000I think it was just realizing that I wasn't going to fail this time.
01:55:06.000And that came from Dallas not giving up on me.
01:55:12.000See, I was scared that he was going to give up on me.
01:55:15.000So it's almost like you were failing so that he would give up on you.
01:55:20.000I know it's going to hurt, but God damn it, I can't deal with this thought of how much it's going to hurt.
01:55:25.000I'd rather it hurt right now, and you kick me out, and then I can go over here and get something that'll make me forget about this bullshit.
01:55:32.000So it's always hanging over your head that you're going to fuck up.
01:55:35.000And finally, when I realized, no matter how many times I fucked up, this son of a bitch is going to be there.
01:56:54.000From listening to him on your podcast, he talked about how he does an extreme 10-minute stretching to start his day, and I've really, really put that into action.
01:57:06.000This fucker picks up stuff from animals.
01:57:09.000He'll say, now watch this dog in the morning first fucking gets up.
01:57:32.000I mean, just what he has in his head in terms of his vision for helping people and how he's able to see that through, having that accountability crib and putting everybody through these workouts on a daily basis.
01:57:45.000I mean, the amount of time invested in helping you guys is fucking amazing.
01:57:50.000And not just you guys, but many, many, many, many people.
01:57:53.000My only fear is he's not going to get out there Oh, he's getting out there.
01:59:08.000You know, and having him on the podcast, man, the number of fucking messages that I got afterwards of how many people have benefited and how many people started taking his program and started taking his yoga or any yoga and cleaning up their life and just inspired by it.
01:59:32.000I've chosen this platform of doing these shows in buildings.
01:59:36.000You know, because it wouldn't do me any good to be in a building where there's 5,000 people because I can't spend time with each one of you.
02:02:28.000It takes some pretty weird shit to get my fucking brain busy again.
02:02:33.000I went from having that diva at home, that foxy, hot, most I could ever want, to having to give myself shots of fucking testosterone so I can pray to get a heart on for her.
02:02:51.000Because there's not all this outside stuff going into the night.