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00:04:18.000Skiing in the winter in, I think it was Switzerland, and there was no chairlifts back then.
00:04:24.000So you would fucking grab your 50-pound skis and walk up the side of the Alps for like a half a day to take one fucking run, and he would do that every day.
00:07:43.000And what they do is they take your blood and there's some sort of a process they do.
00:07:47.000And they separate it and then they take this platelet-rich plasma and they inject it into the wounded area and accelerates healing.
00:07:54.000A lot of people have really good results with that.
00:07:57.000And then there's this stuff called Regenikine that's like platelet-rich plasma, but it's apparently the next step up and what they do is they heat your blood.
00:08:06.000And by heating it, it produces something.
00:08:08.000For sure, if you're a doctor, I'm so sorry that I'm butchering this.
00:08:27.000Yeah, serum removed from the layer and cultured with glass beads so that white blood cells produce IRAP, which is a natural anti-inflammatory.
00:11:43.000Working over in Africa, and he said that you can now cure, not cure, but stabilize somebody with HIV with a pill that's like $60 a month or something like that.
00:12:08.000Well, I think when nutrition is poor, then there's more cutting and bleeding.
00:12:13.000Because I had heard that a lot of what you see in terms of like, if they're talking about AIDS in Africa...
00:12:21.000That it's very easy to put AIDS, like that category AIDS, that sometimes it's just people with damaged immune systems from a host of different diseases, that it's sometimes people aren't getting tested.
00:12:34.000I always wondered, like, how many of those people are tested for HIV? Right, right.
00:15:32.000If you want to compete with your brothers, Keenan Ivory Wayans, Damon Wayans, Kim Wayans, Sean Wayans, Marlon Wayans, Damian Dante Wayans, Damian Wayans Jr. That's all of them.
00:21:19.000The way you could do certain bits and what you'd get away with and put on television was just different.
00:21:24.000So I think that's probably one of the least understood things that's happening with us, with social media, is this rapid evolution of what's acceptable and not acceptable anymore.
00:21:39.000And it's changing very quickly in terms of subjects, in terms of the way you approach things, in terms of obvious bigotry or obvious bias.
00:21:52.000Well, I think the big question is whether or not you see an artist as somebody who's taking their inner vision and putting it out, and you go for the ride or you don't.
00:22:02.000Or is it, are we supposed to be representing society in our stand-up?
00:22:07.000Or is it all supposed to be fair, balanced representations of different ethnic groups and genders?
00:23:40.000Can I tell you that yesterday, about twice a week, I go to this Japanese market in Mar Vista, and they've got all different kinds of, you know, you can get sushi, tempura, whatever.
00:23:51.000The parking lot for this place, because 80% of the people there are Asian, film it and put it on a fucking television channel.
00:24:34.000Yeah, they've explained it, why it's a stereotype, but also why Asian people would be more likely to walk straight.
00:24:46.000If you go to China, or if you go to any of those Asian countries, when people walk straight at each other, they all kind of have this way of touching.
00:24:57.000There's so many people, they're just grinding past each other.
00:26:02.000And it was, you know, I go, oh, it's Girl Scout cookie season.
00:26:06.000Those little whores are out there popping up their tables wherever you are selling those stale, shitty, overpriced cookies.
00:26:13.000But you buy them because it makes you feel good, like you're a good person, you know?
00:26:17.000And then you walk through the parking lot and some black kid comes up with a box of Snickers going, hey, will you support my basketball team?
00:26:23.000And you're like, that's a fucking scam.
00:27:55.000With its chocolatey, coconutty goodness.
00:27:58.000Why do they have to be so bad for you?
00:28:00.000When I was working on a TV show, one of the producers had a daughter who was in the Girl Scouts, and I guess you win contests if you sell the most cookie boxes.
00:28:13.000So when the audience would stream out after the show, it was a daily show, and the audience would stream out, and the girl had a table set up to sell her cookies, and she was selling a hundred boxes a day.
00:33:32.000I think it has to do with initially, if you read Sex at Dawn, he's got a really interesting series of thoughts on the origins of I think?
00:34:02.000I think it had to do with it was too easy for a girl to get pregnant.
00:34:06.000And if a girl got pregnant back when people were fucking just barely making it out of the caves, it was either really good because you had food or it was a real burden because you had to take care of this baby now.
00:34:17.000Now you're not going to be gathering food for us.
00:34:20.000I think there was a lot of that going on.
00:34:22.000So if you were going to be with a person and you decided to make babies, you've got to be sure that this person is going to be there and take care of everything and you're all set up.
00:34:32.000So you can't just be banging a bunch of guys on the side and having kids with everybody, then who's gonna raise your kids?
00:34:37.000This guy's gonna come over and talk to his kid, and he's gonna come over and talk to his kid.
00:34:43.000And the amazing thing is that having kids back then, for guys, the reason why guys stuck around was, you know, we have 401ks and IRA accounts.
00:34:54.000Back then, it's like, when you couldn't gather anymore, you were at the mercy of charity.
00:34:58.000And so if you had a lot of kids, you had a chance of being able to actually live into your old age.
00:37:04.000Maybe it was Idaho or Iowa, one of those places, one of those I-states, that the ag-gag laws got shut down.
00:37:13.000The ag-gag laws are, say if you were working in a slaughterhouse and you saw horrific conditions, you got your cell phone out, you filmed it, you could get prosecuted.
00:37:56.000For many years, medical historians and epidemiologists hypothesized that the outbreak could have started in a British army base in Etaples, France, or at Fort Riley in Kansas, where the first American cases of the new strain of flu were recorded in March of 1918. More recently,
00:38:15.000experts have proposed a third hypothesis.
00:38:18.000The Spanish flu originated somewhere in northern China in late 1917 and swiftly moved to Eastern Europe Within 140,000 Chinese laborers and the French and British governments recruited to perform manual labor to free up the troops for wartime duty.
00:38:52.000It says, claiming more lives in a single year than either the First World War or the four-year-long Black Death bubonic plague outbreak that swept Europe and Asia in the Middle Ages.
00:39:04.000And this is one that, for whatever reason, people talk about the plague.
00:41:13.000Just stop and think about how close we were to doing something so stupid that this could have become a reality and how now think about how this is a reality in certain parts of the world.
00:41:49.000Yeah, and there's something about, when you think about how we're being perceived in the rest of the world, there's something about not even being present for the accidental killing that makes it just, you know, twice as bad.
00:42:03.000It just seems weird, and apparently it gives them pretty severe PTSD. Yeah.
00:42:08.000You know, I'm laughing because I'm, like, thinking, like, that's so crazy.
00:42:11.000Like, they don't even have to be there, and they're getting PTSD. Like, just the fact that they're doing it from a remote location.
00:43:07.000Whether or not they do it or not do it, because at the end of the day, lawyers are deciding whether or not it's likely to be successful, what's the legal ramifications.
00:43:16.000He goes, when you're talking about that kind of stuff, he's like, seriously, a lot of it's decided by lawyers.
00:46:00.000I think before that, women maybe competed in athletic events like gymnastics and shit like that when they were young, but then when they probably got families or moved on to jobs, they probably stopped.
00:53:37.000But you have to admit, if you're a person and nothing completely catastrophic has happened to you, and you became this 50-year-old successful comedian that's an Emmy award-winning writer, and like,
00:53:53.000yeah, bad things happen to you, right?
00:53:55.000But they could have been fucking way worse.
00:55:11.000Right, and I think early childhood education can make a big difference because if you have a kid growing up and, you know, the dad took off, there's no money, he's living on the streets, if you can create an environment for that four-year-old to come in and have two decent meals, a nap time,
00:55:27.000some structured play, it makes all the difference in the world because that can become like the family to them.
00:56:33.000It's all speaking one language, but there's a big difference between visiting Montana and visiting Miami.
00:56:38.000You know, if you go to Billings, Montana and hang out with the local folk at a coffee shop, and then you go to some fucking crazy after-hours party in Miami on Miami Beach at four in the morning and P. Diddy shows up.
00:56:59.000Yeah, there's a different world and there's a bunch of these different world New York City is a different world.
00:57:03.000You know LA is a different world You're allowed to go there wouldn't it be great if the whole world was like that You could just kind of go wherever you wanted to go and it would all sort itself out The idea is you can't because it would fuck up our quality of life.
00:57:16.000It would make us less safe And I get the argument.
00:57:20.000Certainly, you don't want to bring in criminals and murderers.
00:57:22.000You don't want drug dealers making their way into this country and starting gang violence and all that stuff.
00:57:38.000You know, we need the immigrant spirit of coming in.
00:57:41.000And a lot of them do start small businesses when...
00:57:44.000You know, and again, when they're brought in legally...
00:57:47.000And so how do you create a flow of people that is good for us?
00:57:52.000Because they say most of the immigrants that come here are the smartest, sharpest people, most driven in wherever they're from.
00:57:59.000So we're actually drawing a really good, you know, they talk so much about the criminals, but the truth is, most of them that are coming over here are the ones that probably have the most to offer to this country.
00:58:10.000Well, exactly like our parents' generation.
01:03:36.000Like when you're on stage and you've got the hour down, that's when...
01:03:39.000You and I were talking about a comedian you just told to take a little extra time before they do your special.
01:03:44.000And it really is in that extra few months that you find emphasizing this syllable makes the joke get an applause break instead of just laughs.
01:04:44.000If you could track a comedian writing a bit, a good comic, who really takes on a premise like you do, like take on a thought or a philosophy and step it out as far as it can possibly go and track that person doing that set for six months, it can morph to where there's almost nothing left from the original premise.
01:06:51.000When you get at 1 o'clock in the morning, they've already laughed.
01:06:55.000They've laughed and laughed and laughed.
01:06:58.000And they've laughed for hours, some of them.
01:07:00.000Some of them get there at 9, and they stay till 2. They just get up to pee, order another drink, have another seat, and you're watching a crazy lineup of comedians.
01:07:10.000You get on at one o'clock in the morning, man, like the Don Barris hour, that fucking...
01:07:16.000You're getting in front of people that have seen everything.
01:07:24.000If you can get through to these people when they've probably heard everything.
01:07:29.000Well, and it gets you in your voice more because when there's only 15 people out there versus 300 a couple hours earlier, at 300 you're performing something out to the back of the room.
01:08:13.000Like, if you do a big theater, a big theater, you need to be comfortable with the fact that there's, you know, X amount of thousands of people in that room.
01:08:42.000And that's why for so long, Comedy Central, the mandate was always they want the special shot in a nice theater, like a 1500, 2000 seater where they can get the crane camera shooting down.
01:09:00.000So all of a sudden I shoot my special in a room that holds 1,600 people and it wasn't, I don't look back at it and go, that's exactly how I wanted to be seen.
01:09:13.000It's like I would have rather done it in a nice little 400-seat club.
01:09:18.000Also, you weren't doing a lot of those places, so you weren't comfortable with it.
01:09:21.000When you do those really big places, once you get comfortable with it, you start treating it like a club.
01:09:26.000One of my most comfortable sets was one of the biggest places I ever did, the Scotiabank Arena in Toronto at the end of my tour, but it was at the end of the tour, the very last spot before the Netflix special came out.
01:09:38.000So I had been doing stand-up like real regular in these big giant-ass places for months.
01:09:45.000So when I got there, it felt like the store.
01:10:50.000I would love if somebody did, they put an act together that's only for that crowd, but it's just onion-esque enough that it sneaks through.
01:12:50.000If you don't know exactly where you're coming from, but you want to sell that you know where you're coming from, you want people to believe you know where you're coming from, then you get all this momentum behind you.
01:13:03.000And you almost can't get away from it.
01:13:06.000You see this a lot with people that are trying to be spiritual.
01:13:12.000They're always trying to sell you on the idea that they're spiritual.
01:13:21.000I think who we are, all of us, a lot of it is who we've encountered and how we've interacted with those people.
01:13:30.000Yeah, and then the uniform comes along with it and the diet.
01:13:33.000There's like a whole follow this manual that, you know, they talk about hipsters, which, you know, it's a pretty wide umbrella about what kind of hipsters there are.
01:13:43.000But just the idea of wearing a uniform always kind of puts me off on people.
01:13:55.000It's like the opinions aren't necessarily wrong because they're your opinions.
01:14:00.000But the thing of any kind of ideology, whether it's a hipster, alt ideology, or if it's a fucking conservative right-wing farm worker ideology, when people adopt those, there's very little deviation.
01:14:15.000And a lot of times they're not even really thinking entirely about what they're saying.
01:14:18.000They just know what is going to get the right positive reaction from their clan.
01:14:51.000You haven't, because a lot of people go down there and they change their views because they are so, you know, intimidated by not fitting in with the, it's your social group.
01:15:08.000And it's two different countries, if not three, because you've got the locals, which I'd put them against Mississippi and Alabama for being deep south.
01:15:18.000And then you've got the retirement people, which is old Jews from New York.
01:15:22.000And then you've got the Latino element of Florida.
01:16:59.000I think the problem with that, though, what I read was that there's something about the porous nature of the soil in Miami, that the water is going to come through the ground.
01:20:20.000Then we get to the parking lot and there's this busload of kids from some school and they had seen the whole thing and they started chanting hero to me.
01:22:51.000And I think when, there's been moments for sure that I smoke too much pot and I freak the fuck out.
01:22:58.000And when that happens, it almost always feels like, wow, if I had to live life like this, And it's one of the things that I try to take into consideration when I think about people having something wrong with the way their brain processes information or the way they talk.
01:23:14.000It's like think about how you feel when you're on like a 200 milligram edible.
01:23:20.000And you're like, oh my god, I just can't do this.
01:23:23.000Everything is like anxiety and the freak out and life and death and all of your memories pouring back into your head like a waterfall and you can't collect them.
01:24:29.000Constant snowball effect of anxiety and chaos.
01:24:34.000And you've got to wonder, how much of that is brain chemistry?
01:24:37.000How much of that is brain chemistry that's been adjusted by nature and by life experiences and abuse and all these different factors that happen to people that make them lose their grip?
01:24:56.000And she's been at this bus stop for three years, and I pass her two or three times a day, and I'm kind of obsessed with checking on her every time I drive by.
01:25:07.000And she's never not been in that bus stop sitting down.
01:26:36.000You can't make them take their medication after the age of 18. And for some reason, a lot of schizophrenics don't like taking their medication because of the way it makes them feel.
01:27:02.000When they start thinking something, they have to replace it with another thought, and they have to train in that until they can stop the voices.
01:28:03.000Like, this is a terrible feeling, and this is every day for me, all day.
01:28:08.000There's just something wrong going on in there.
01:28:10.000It has to be that there's variables to the way your brain works, just like there's variables to the way your eyes function or any other part of your body.
01:29:23.000And the whole theory behind it is that they can use magnetic stimulation to sort of like waken up one of the lobes in your brain that's associated with depression.
01:29:33.000And so you go in and first they map out your brain and then you go in and for like a half hour they just pulse this magnetic thing onto your head.
01:29:43.000It's like a very low grade MRI almost.
01:30:07.000She's one of the UFC's top bantamweights and she fought UFC champion Amanda Nunez back in the day and actually beat her before she won the title.
01:30:16.000But in that fight she got hurt real bad and she talked about it on the podcast that she developed a bunch of brain issues.
01:30:45.000I think it's a different kind of magnetic therapy than this one, because I think the center only exists around San Diego, and a lot of military guys come back and use it, football players, people with head injuries, and someone recommended it to her, and it helped her tremendously.
01:33:02.000The signals aren't getting to the muscles correctly.
01:33:05.000One of the things that you see in older boxers when they've taken too many horrible fights and they're really starting to lose it is their steps look shorter.
01:35:26.000It's hard to tell because it's a shitty video, but that red plastic thing was basically like a spongy thing that they used to use in Taekwondo terms.
01:36:50.000And he was supposed to fight in a tournament, and I got there and there was a thin plastic tarp stretched out over a smooth concrete floor.
01:36:57.000I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?
01:40:18.000Look, it's just going to start calling people.
01:40:19.000It just started calling people, and I'd hang up, and they would just call somebody else, and I'd hang up, and we'd just call somebody else.
01:42:05.000Well, and the other thing he mentions is that it got squashed by shrinks because they had a vested interest in people not going into the woods for a weekend and coming back without their depression.
01:42:21.000The psychiatrists were, like, horrified that these kind of results were coming back.
01:42:25.000Was it that for sure, or was it people who've never taken psychedelics horrified that people were out there experimenting with their consciousness?
01:42:33.000Because I think a lot of these psychiatrists are probably really straight-laced guys.
01:42:37.000And so in their mind, especially in the shadows of reefer madness and all the propaganda they'd heard in the 30s and 40s, when you look at those people and they're out there in the fucking desert or wherever they're going, dancing around, taking mushrooms under the moonlight, they're blowing their brains out here.
01:42:55.000If there are straight-laced people that have never done psychedelics, they might not be in cahoots.
01:42:59.000It might more likely be a bunch of people that think it's a fucking terrible idea to let people run around taking acid.
01:43:05.000Well, there was just some of the medical journals came out with pieces saying that none of these studies are valid because there wasn't...
01:43:12.000I forget what it is about studies that have to be consistent.
01:43:17.000But the other thing is it was political, and you had Timothy Leary, who was, you know, the worst thing to happen to this kind of testing, because he was saying, was it drop out?
01:43:31.000And that whole idea, they said, you know, people taking LSD are not going to fight your wars, and so that became a threat to the status quo.
01:45:08.000But there was a guy named Hubbard who was really like a corporate version of LSD. He was going to companies and he was taking the CEOs of companies and taking them in for these three-day drop acid experiences.
01:46:20.000He started with nothing and ended up with a bunch of airplanes that he was leasing out, became a millionaire, and then spent it all trying to educate people on LSD. He was worth tens of millions of dollars, and he ended up broke at the end.
01:46:47.000Well, there was a little hiccup where several generations had to pass before people started understanding that there's a risk to everything.
01:48:13.000I trust that we do have the best system out there, and we challenge it every day, and I still think that we live in a place where the tenants of our society are in place.
01:48:27.000They swing one way or the other, but I still believe in democracy, and I think the internet, as an overall thing, has been positive for people getting their voices out and for...
01:48:42.000But the idea that we're faced with that in this day and age, there's grown adults telling other grown adults what they can and can't put in their body.
01:49:30.000Look, if someone does something, if takes something and does something, they take PCP and they run face first through a fucking 7-Eleven window, that's on them.
01:49:39.000It doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to try PCP. And I don't think you should try PCP. I think when enough people smash through windows and go crazy, go, hey, maybe that's a drug I should fucking avoid.
01:49:48.000But that's how you find out about that.
01:49:50.000You let grown adults make their own decisions.
01:49:53.000And if you're the one who's making the decisions for all the grown adults, you better have some real fucking logic to what you're saying.
01:50:00.000And this is the same society that allows the pharmaceuticals to peddle opiates to people for the last 30 years, saying that it was the greatest thing you could do.
01:50:16.000I think, in general, pharmaceuticals have helped people in tremendous ways.
01:50:21.000But you can't deny that if there's some way, shape, or form that people are influencing other people having access to beneficial things because it would impact their profit line, That's evil.
01:51:03.000Like, these psychiatrists, I guarantee you these psychiatrists were worried about correlations between psychotic episodes and psychedelic drug use, and they're worried about people falling apart, and they're right.
01:51:35.000So people worry about it that don't really have experience in it.
01:51:38.000I guarantee you most of those psychiatrists just didn't have experience in it or were super cautious folks.
01:51:44.000Because if they did have experience with it, maybe they try a little mushroom dose and they'd be like, wow, this is amazing.
01:51:51.000Right, and also controlling, you know, set and setting they keep talking about, you know, and realizing that the, you know, occurrence of a psychotic episode is so much lower when it's,
01:52:06.000you know, when it's being dispensed the right way.
01:52:18.000Aubrey, my friend Aubrey acted as a, like, he sort of, like, set the setting in a way where it was, you know, I would say, like, spiritual.
01:52:54.000And then the way it hits you, it hits you like Like an infinite cyclone of geometric patterns in impossible colors just blasting in your brain instantaneously and you're like Going into it with the intention of letting go is probably one of the best pieces of advice you could give people to avoid a freakout.
01:55:08.000Whatever the fuck it is, it's swirling out of that in this unnatural form to create the negative behavior that you are manifesting in your life.
01:55:25.000And one of the things about psychedelic experiences is it shuts the ego off for a second and lets you stand outside of it and go, look what that thing's doing to you.
01:57:01.000And I mean, that dude, you put his name on a marquee, and he was fucking one year out of college, and he was this cute guy with the southern accent and the baseball cap on, and he was silly, and he would fill up a fucking room, and he would just...
01:57:15.000And then he started to get some success, and it always found his way in his act.
01:57:20.000He would talk about, yeah, you know, I was talking to this actor when I was doing Chicago on Broadway, and...
01:58:45.000I reached to see him at Faneuil Hall, and he would fill that fucking place.
01:58:49.000The comedy connection when they moved, when Blumenwright took over and they moved to the big room, and they moved out of that little tiny room and put it in Faneuil Hall.
01:58:56.000I remember walking through there one day, and Anthony Clark was murdering, and I was like, this is 90% women.
01:59:30.000Yeah, they want to go see someone cute.
01:59:33.000I bet there's probably a disproportionate number of chicks going to see Aquaman.
01:59:37.000I bet if you looked at the number of women that want to go see a superhero movie and the number of women that want to go see Aquaman, it's off the charts in Aquaman's favor.
02:00:52.000Boy, that takes some time and makeup because if he's doing a role where they don't want that, that's a lot of time covering that shit up every day.
02:00:59.000I don't think they have to cover up shit with him.
02:05:55.000Yeah, and you gotta think if they make it that far, they're even more vicious than men because they've, you know, there's such a social taboo for them.
02:08:27.000And some sense of what it's like to struggle with someone physically.
02:08:30.000They're moving, you've got to move with them, you've got to...
02:08:33.000The older you are, when you start learning that, the more difficult it is to incorporate into the way you think about things.
02:08:39.000I think when you're young, if you have some experience with martial arts, you'll be more calm and confident if something happens when you get older.
02:08:47.000You develop knowing how to move that way.
02:08:51.000When you're already kind of set in your ways and you're injured and you're old and then someone wants to teach you a wheel kick, like, oh Christ.
02:10:28.000The tear, we've hit it with stem cells a few times, and it doesn't give me any pain anymore, but a cyst keeps developing in that area, and the cyst has to get punctured and drained.
02:10:39.000It happened three different times where I had to get it drained, and the last time was a few days ago, and it was the smallest it's ever been, but still fucking annoying.
02:13:15.000A bunch of different studies, and I know Andy Galpin's been involved in a bunch of these studies, and Rhonda Patrick has discussed some of this research as well.
02:13:22.000But what happens is there's a window of time after you lift weights where you should just leave your body alone and not ice anything.
02:15:16.000Yeah, a woman in Vegas was operating it herself, and apparently she was not in the right height, and the liquid nitrogen was getting into her lungs.
02:15:28.000She was breathing it in, and she passed out.
02:15:29.000And she passed out and froze to death.
02:15:34.000Because she had, I think the story was that she had worked there, and she was after hours just doing therapy on herself, and she fucking fell asleep in there.
02:17:55.000Yeah, that movie Revenant freaked me out.
02:17:58.000Just going into the woods up north for three months to collect pelts and you're walking through fucking streams and it's pouring rain and you got no heater, no electricity.
02:18:16.000A lot of people lived that way until they died.
02:18:19.000I mean, you think about those people that made it across this country and the people like Lewis and Clark and all these pioneers that just didn't even know what the fuck was around the next corner.
02:22:44.000They're making either a movie or something or other, bringing the series back, because it ended in the middle of season two when that writer's strike happened.
02:27:22.000Yeah, it's like Catch a Rising Star came out of being a cabaret, and people would sing there, and then suddenly people started doing stand-up there, and the two existed together for years before it became a comedy club.
02:28:04.000But what was the original comedy club?
02:28:05.000Well, that place is called the Gaslight.
02:28:08.000And I think there was a Gaslight back then.
02:28:10.000Do you think it was a comedy club, though?
02:28:11.000I don't think the way they did it, which was great, and again, I don't want to give too much of it away, but the way they did it where people were getting bumped, like she got bumped, I don't think that that was good.
02:31:28.000But in terms of someone going specifically to see someone say things in a funny way, just talking in front of a microphone, that shit is really recent.
02:33:00.000There's no way to track them on the internet.
02:33:03.000Yeah, they say, you know, a lot of those early, it was very Jewish, because Jews were having a hard time getting hired, and so that was one of the few places they could work, and that's why they say comedy was a very Jewish thing.
02:34:53.000I mean, Hearst would have hundreds of guests every weekend.
02:34:55.000He had rooms for hundreds of people, and they would have...
02:34:59.000Hunts, they would fucking hunt during the day.
02:35:02.000Or, you know, they'd play tennis and then everybody would meet for highballs at like 5 o'clock in one room and giant fireplaces and then they'd set dinners with fucking servants.
02:35:12.000If you got an invite to that, you go for like three weeks.
02:36:48.000They're slowly making their way down here.
02:36:50.000But the ones that are down here, the closest they are is Tohono Ranch.
02:36:54.000Tohono Ranch is about an hour and a half from here, and they have wild pigs.
02:36:59.000Is it that hard to just get a bunch of guys with AK-47s and hunt them down?
02:37:03.000It's not that hard, but you can't do that in California.
02:37:06.000California, you can get depredation permits, and they have gotten depredation permits, and they hunt them at night with night vision.
02:37:12.000Because sometimes the pigs will start making their way into agriculture, or they'll lay down some fresh sod and put some grass down, and these pigs will destroy thousands of dollars in landscaping damage.
02:37:25.000So when they prove that that's happening, then they get a special permit, and then they can just start whacking.
02:39:45.000And she goes over, and her ball is right on the edge, and she's standing there, and she was standing on some fucking, like, dead, some dead grass, and it gave out.
02:42:23.000Well, you know that story about the World War II boat that sank, and the guys were floating around at sea for several days, and most of them got eaten by sharks?
02:43:28.000I was thinking when it said the worst shark attack in history, I was thinking it was that story about New Jersey where the bull sharks killed people.
02:43:36.000Scroll back up so I can see what it says there.
02:43:39.0001945, U.S. naval ship was sunk by a Japanese submarine.
02:43:42.000The ship's sinking was just the beginning of the sailor's nightmare.
02:44:59.000But when you're around any kind of thing that can eat you and kill you, it puts it all into perspective that you're not around that enough.
02:45:09.000It's not like you should be around it all the time, but you should know it's a real thing.
02:45:13.000And when you're around it, you go like, oh, sharks will just eat you.
02:47:04.000If he really got bit by that bear like that, he'd probably be destroyed.
02:47:09.000I think the guy where it really happened to him in real life, it's kind of based really loosely on a story, I think he got kind of like a little mauled.
02:48:00.000So the smart thing to do is to sit out for a couple hours.
02:48:04.000It'll be dead for sure, but what you don't want to do is spook it while it's injured if it's not a perfect hit, if it runs away, because then it's going to just keep running.
02:48:14.000You can run for a long time on adrenaline.
02:48:16.000So the correct move is if you don't see an animal die, you see it run into the woods, you wait.
02:48:23.000And you wait just as a precautionary matter.
02:48:25.000Well, the animal died in seconds, and a bear claimed it immediately.
02:48:29.000It died probably right in front of him.
02:56:08.000See, the problem is kids grow up and they see this stuff and the soft-headed amongst them will then think that animals are really like that.
02:56:16.000So they'll venture out into the forest to try to make friends.
02:57:39.000So the shark thing, I found articles saying what you were saying could not find a video, and I do believe when we found that before it was fake, and I'm trying to find Google even like fake, and it's not popping up.
03:00:06.000So that's, you know, mako is particularly delicious.
03:00:10.000It really does taste a lot like swordfish.
03:00:12.000But in our lifetime, it's now become taboo because people have this rough idea of what a shark is and that sharks are being targeted and sharks are being murdered and there's a small amount of sharks left.
03:03:46.000They breed, they make the trek, they breed, and when they get to the spot where, you know, at the end of their life, their body starts changing color, they start getting mushy, they look rotten, and they just fucking wind up like pooling up on the ground,
03:04:02.000and then the bears move in, and they eat hundreds of rotten ones.
03:04:05.000See, this is while the salmon are in the run.
03:04:09.000And these bears are, they're fighting over territory.
03:04:12.000Look at the size of these motherfuckers.
03:05:13.000And they're all in the right place at the right time.
03:05:15.000See if you can find bears eating rotten salmon.
03:05:19.000Because sometimes they'll pool up in these rivers, in these little ponds and shit, and you just see all these bears just chewing on these rotten carcasses.
03:06:11.000Did you have any idea that a tuna could be $3 million?
03:06:14.000I know that they wait on the dock in Japan, and certain chefs have more cachet, and they're able to come in first and pick the tuna, but then they auction them off, and yeah, they go for crazy money.
03:06:56.000They're catching ones they're calling Hamachi, because they were actually from a Hamachi farm that was on the Big Island that broke during the storm.
03:07:05.000Remember that storm there a couple years back?
03:07:07.000Giant fucking hurricane that hit Hawaii?
03:07:09.000Well, it destroyed this containment area that they had where they were farm-raising Hamachi for sushi and shit.
03:07:16.000So now this type of yellowtail is everywhere in the ocean.
03:12:25.000When I used to work in Boston at the Copley Marriott, that was my day job for a while in college, and then when I first started doing stand-up, and we used to go down, and it was the biggest banquet hall in Boston, so we used to get all these conventions, all these fucking hayseed farmers who'd come from the Midwest,
03:12:42.000and And they'd stay in the hotel and they could order any kind of dinner they wanted for their banquet.
03:12:47.000But they always wanted the pilgrim banquet.
03:12:50.000And we used to have to fucking dress up as pilgrims.