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00:00:43.000They're very different, you know, but the American landscape, how unique the landscape is, you know, from the Rocky Mountains, you know, to the desert, it's just insane.
00:01:14.000Your 28 days that you did in the Rocky Mountains out here that we put on Instagram, you know, that we're promoting it constantly, that was like one of the most talked about.
00:03:22.000And, like, mountain lions usually kill their prey, but obviously grab the calf, and it was eating this calf while it was still alive, like a beef cow calf.
00:03:35.000Someone shared with me with a mountain lion dragon a mule deer down, and it's, like, chomping on this mule deer before it actually dies, you know, and it's like...
00:03:43.000There's just not that thought process there.
00:03:55.000Some friends were elk hunting and they came across this elk who these wolves had torn the back legs apart and it was in the river and the wolves were eating it while it was in the river and the thing was moaning and screaming.
00:04:26.000The first time I went to Canada was Northwest Territories.
00:04:30.000And there was a pack of wolves that they were chasing a caribou bull and they pretty much chased this thing to like a lava or a sweat, you know, like this is in winter.
00:04:39.000So the caribou bull got really hot and they chased it into the freezing cold river and they sort of surrounded it in the river and then they just left it and they walked off, you know, and it wasn't that they were walking away from their kill.
00:04:52.000The wolves went back up high and they got onto these rocky benches and sat in the sun and were like drying out their cells and cooling down and drying out.
00:05:38.000Almost like, they think that that's the reason why the myth of the werewolf exists, is that people that have these terrifying encounters with wolves, they swear that it's part human.
00:06:29.000They'd howl back to me, and they'd just keep this perfect range.
00:06:32.000You could tell the whole time they were communicating because there'd be another wolf or a couple of wolves that were a couple of miles in the other direction, and you could hear them moving the same pattern that the rest of these wolves were.
00:06:48.000And other than that, I've never really seen them, but I guarantee you those wolves looked at me a bunch of times like they're just a different hunter, dude.
00:06:56.000Yeah, they're probably just trying to figure out what they can do with you.
00:07:01.000So it's like snow and it's like way in the backcountry of British Columbia.
00:07:06.000And like I'm going up on these mountains, it's like big pine trees and everything like that and just every direction around you're howling, dude.
00:07:13.000You'd hear them howling, you'd hear them do, it sounds like a bark, it's not, it's like this short howl.
00:07:19.000And then every now and then you'd hear one howl different and you could tell that that was the alpha.
00:07:24.000There's the sound that it was letting out, dude, it was like eerie.
00:07:28.000Awesome place to be if you're in the nature, like...
00:07:57.000So there end up being a set of caribou tracks that I end up getting onto and following, and every wolf track was a certain section apart from that, and they were funneling it into this big drainage.
00:08:09.000I had to end up returning back to camp because it was getting dark, but I would have loved to have kept following and seeing if they actually...
00:08:20.000Well, it's really interesting seeing them adapt to, in 1994 when they got reintroduced to Yellowstone, seeing them re-adapt to the whole West and really expand and kind of take it over.
00:09:56.000When you're out there in the woods and you're doing these live streams or these Instagram stories, how are you hooking up when you're out there?
00:10:06.000So some of them are like, I think that last year when I did the solo hike for the Arnhem Land, like the Northern Territory of Australia, that was like a 13-day delay, I think, where every day I was still documenting it.
00:10:19.000But it wasn't until that I got back into civilization that I was uploading it each day.
00:10:23.000So when you do it on your phone, it just saves it on the phone?
00:10:26.000I'm just filming it in the normal camera mode and then uploading it.
00:10:30.000But a lot of places, especially here in the US, when you're up high, like usually I've got a decent reception.
00:10:37.000I'll do a little bit of research, what's the best provider in the area, ATE, Verizon, whatever it is, and I'll end up getting a SIM card for that provider.
00:10:46.000And then usually if I'm up high, it's not too bad, but it just depends where you are.
00:11:46.000If I'm just trying to communicate with home, I've got like a Garmin inReach sort of thing, and you do text off your phone because it actually goes into your phone, but as far as data goes, it's too slow to do something like InstaStories.
00:12:24.000And they had stuff in that one, I believe.
00:12:26.000I don't think that's ruined it, but it probably put a big halt on the Yeah, that makes sense.
00:12:32.000I always think how you can be so much unorganized now, like with work and stuff, because of where phones and that are.
00:12:38.000But I remember in the construction industry, that morning that you left to work, you had to be highly friggin' organized, because you had to go back to a payphone if you wanted to call someone.
00:12:48.000No one wanted to do that, especially from a work site.
00:12:53.000I just remember when emails come on the phone, I was like, holy shit, I can save some time now.
00:12:58.000That was a massive breakthrough for business, being able to do that.
00:13:02.000But it's also nice to step away from that every now and then.
00:13:53.000You know, I've been better at it over the last, like, couple months than I ever have before by just leaving the phone alone and not touching it and just hanging out.
00:14:03.000Yeah, I'll do certain posts where I don't even look back on it.
00:14:06.000It's just like, cool, post it, the content's out there.
00:14:09.000If people want to look at it, they can look at it.
00:14:10.000If they don't want to look at it, change the channel, go and look at something different.
00:14:13.000But then every now and then there's one that I like to look at the engagement with and stuff like that, which is good.
00:14:20.000But you know, there's always like, there's 10% fuckwits out there that are kind of...
00:15:11.000If someone gets mouthy, especially in Australia, it was only going back so many years ago, if someone gets mouthy, you confront them, and if they want to go at it, let's go at it.
00:16:58.000We thought it was the most incredible thing.
00:17:00.000I remember I showed up to news radio one day, the sitcom that I was on, and I couldn't wait to tell these people about how I got online last night.
00:17:08.000I was downloading all these things and printing them.
00:21:26.000If there's a virtual reality game where you play it and all of a sudden you're in a NASCAR and you're winning some gigantic race, you're in the driver's seat and you're shifting the gears and it feels like you're indiscernible from feeling like you're winning a race.
00:22:13.000There's a lot of guys that go to the gym and they'll work out hard for 45 minutes, an hour at a gym, but make them work a construction site.
00:23:58.000You be a nicer person, you get rewarded for that, you realize, oh, it's nice to be a nice person, and then it actually makes you a nicer person.
00:24:07.000People are dressing a certain way and trying to keep hygienic and be nice, and then, yeah, everyone just turns into a fucking slob because they're going to sleep with some pretty actress anyway.
00:24:16.000Oh, yeah, and in that virtual reality, they're going to look like Ryan Reynolds anyway.
00:24:20.000They're going to have a full six-pack and look beautiful.
00:24:23.000And then other people are going to meet you in there.
00:27:01.000Someone was saying about, you know, that the government or whatever, the federal government, you know, with all the trash, but the federal government's not leaving the fucking trash there.
00:27:47.000So I heard a bunch of people in the city because, you know, I spent the last five, six days here in LA, you know, and the bad weather's come in.
00:27:52.000They're like, oh, this is disgusting weather.
00:30:48.000Like I went in there yesterday, like fucking dressed as a man, you know, jeans on, a flannelette shirt, you know, and a camo cap and Walking around and then the kids talk me into going to that...
00:31:27.000So I've walked around Disney for the morning thinking, like, look at these fucking Froot Loops and the way they're dressed and all their Disney clothes.
00:31:33.000The only clothes you can buy in there is fucking Disney clothes.
00:31:36.000I'm wearing, it was pajama pants with fucking Mickey Mouse's head all over them.
00:31:41.000This shirt that's got Disney fucking written all over it.
00:31:46.000Fucking walking around there like I fitted perfectly in after that.
00:32:56.000You put these goggles on and you climb on this thing that looks like a motorcycle and it straps you in place and what you're riding is one of them giant dragons from Avatar.
00:33:30.000Yeah, now I'll stick to hunting and camping and shit.
00:33:33.000Well, at the end of the day, Steve Rinell said it best.
00:33:37.000This is a quote that he said that I think he was talking about someone else told him this, that there's two different kinds of fun.
00:33:44.000This fun that you have while it's happening, like you ride the roller coaster, it's fun.
00:33:49.000But you don't look back on that five years from now and go, that was amazing.
00:33:54.000But then there's things that suck while you're doing them, like your 28-day trip in the Rocky Mountains, pointing at a gun that you don't even know has a jammed bullet in it, and a grizzly is charging at you.
00:34:07.000Like, that will be fun for the rest of your life.
00:34:27.000It's something that you always look back on, memories and shit.
00:34:30.000But there's feelings that you get when you come back, too, where you appreciate things.
00:34:34.000Like, Callan and I did this trip with Rinella in Prince of Wales, and we were up there for...
00:34:42.000We were supposed to be up there I think for seven days but on the sixth day a storm was coming in and so we wound up bailing early because I had a gig in two days and otherwise I would have been stuck up there like you get stuck it rained every fucking day and it didn't just rain every day it rained all day every day there was no there was like if you had a break it was a five-minute break yeah like with oh look the Sun and then so inside the the tent I put my headlamp on and there was...
00:36:32.000And we get back to the trailer and you get to flick a light on and turn the tap on and it's hot water and she's just like, fuck yeah, this is awesome.
00:36:40.000You know, but a week goes by and then you start taking that shit for granted again.
00:36:47.000But I think a guy like you, you're in the wilderness so often that, you know, it's almost like you have a permanent appreciation for both things.
00:37:18.000The few hunting trips that I get to do a year, when I'm out in the actual wilderness, wilderness, like when we're in the mountains of Utah elk hunting, I just like sitting down sometimes.
00:37:28.000Just sit down and take it all in for a couple minutes.
00:37:32.000I mean, even though you're in the middle of it and you're running around looking for elk and you hear them, I just like...
00:37:46.000You said on one of the podcasts, I don't know if it was one with me or someone else, that it's so funny that we say the outdoors, because everything's outdoors.
00:37:53.000Like, fucking everything's under the ceiling of the earth, you know?
00:39:45.000But, uh, so last year, um, I was up at my cabin just chilling out by myself, woke up in the morning, needed to do a piss, walked out and I'm looking up and this media come through and it was so bright that it actually lit up the ground, dude, like the most incredible media that I've seen.
00:40:02.000I had a time-lapse photo going in the opposite direction.
00:40:05.000I quickly turned it around and And you see the media's dust for like, it lasts for 25 minutes, half an hour in the camera.
00:40:13.000And it's just drift and change in shape in the atmosphere.
00:41:29.000I think it was like 10,000 years ago, there was like a big bang, like a big media.
00:41:34.000hit hit the earth yeah and uh i started looking into that and then i started really looking into aborigines in australia indigenous how long they've been around for and stuff like that and there's now evidence to say that they've been around for 70 000 years they live through like three of those big medias hitting the earth you know like it's crazy to think about like why didn't i wish we had video cameras back then you know and they could have recorded it and we could look at it now like imagine that Well,
00:42:02.000Randall Carlson, the guy that I talked about earlier, he is a proponent of this theory that this is what ended the Ice Age.
00:42:41.000And it's hard in those fields to be taken seriously if you don't have a PhD in whatever discipline it is.
00:42:48.000But, man, his work on these things is so compelling.
00:42:53.000And the podcasts that I did with him are just mind-blowing.
00:42:55.000But in terms of the evidence, it points to some event that ended the Ice Age very rapidly and caused the disintegration of the ice that was over North America.
00:43:08.000You know, North America had something like a mile-high...
00:43:15.000I think I was driving through Wyoming and they've got all these signs up in Wyoming that are really interesting and there's a rock formation that will tell you how old that rock formation is, how it formed.
00:43:27.000Because rock usually embeds in layers like this.
00:43:30.000It's formed in layers like this and then you'll see a rock like that.
00:43:35.000There's some of them there that are like...
00:43:38.000Hundreds of million years old, you know, and there's a sign there showing it and it's just, it's incredible to think how much the Earth's changed and you just said it, we're around for a hundred years at a time max, you know, and it's just like...
00:44:37.000They find dinosaurs there all the time.
00:44:39.000One of Dudley's friends, Dudley knows a guy who has a ranch out there in Montana, and he found a bone in his ranch, just maybe something protruding from the ground.
00:44:52.000And he wanted someone to get a look at it, so he got a hold of some, I guess, what would you, paleontologists?
00:48:29.000I looked at some photos the other day, not my own photo, someone else's photos, and they were showing the raw images, and the color that was coming out of these raw images, they look like absolute pillars, like painted pillars, dude.
00:50:25.000You know, like the human eye, you have to actually lay there in the dark for a fair while and just like stare into that sort of, to get a good look at it.
00:50:32.000How long is it open to get that image?
00:50:38.000You can leave it open for 30 seconds or you can put it on like an actual jammed open for a long time, but it's way too much light for what the farm has.
00:50:47.000And you can start getting a lot of distortion as well.
00:50:51.000That's such a cool picture with the cabin as well, with the light coming out of the cabin.
00:52:11.000You can just fit a lot more on it and it's a lot more rickety.
00:52:14.000You can throw firewood rocks on it, whatever the fuck you want.
00:52:17.000Well, you guys have to have vehicles that you could drive for like a day before you hit a gas station.
00:52:25.000If you're doing those hunts that I do, yeah.
00:52:28.000So one of the first things you do is you rip off the fuel tank and you put like an aftermarket fuel tank on it.
00:52:33.000That's usually like twice the capacity.
00:52:35.000Or you throw a second fuel tank on it.
00:52:37.000and go from there so I don't know what it is in gallons but like say a fuel tanks like usually 60 litres 20 gallons is what usually a fuel tank is out here.
00:52:46.000Well, then we'd double it to like 40 or 50 or 60 or something like that.
00:52:51.000And because there's such a market for it in Australia, there's a bunch of them that you buy ready that are ready to mount onto your vehicle.
00:52:58.000Why is there a market for that in Australia?
00:52:59.000Because it's fucking 100 miles anywhere.
00:55:53.000So, I think it is on the rise, you know, and I think there's like this bit of a trend at the moment, you know, go and kill your own, which is good.
00:56:59.000You know, I don't know what the numbers are, but there's probably supposed to be like one mountain lion for every 500 deer or something like that.
00:57:18.000If you live in the wilderness, if you live in Montana or you live in Colorado and you live in the woods, you might see one every few years.
00:58:04.000Well, that's when the dogs come in handy.
00:58:08.000I've never really wanted to hunt with dogs because I like to do all the hunting myself, but there's a special bond between the hunter and the dogs when you're hunting, that's for sure, and it was actually a really good experience.
00:58:19.000I really loved it, but a lot of people frown on using dogs, but the best way to...
00:59:08.000If it was a female, we would have had to have left it where we were.
00:59:11.000Some states aren't like that and counties aren't like that, where it can be male and female if the population is too high.
00:59:17.000What they're trying to do in that part of Colorado is just keep that mountain lion population healthy and how they determined that was by shooting males only.
00:59:27.000They could have a rise in mountain lion, a decrease in the mule deer and other animals, so they might change that again, but we could only shoot a male, so...
00:59:36.000Yeah, the problem in America, particularly in California, where they outlawed hunting with dogs, is that the perception of using a dog to go after an animal, the perception is that it's not fair.
00:59:49.000What people, I mean, this is going to be hard for some people, especially animal lovers, to understand, but that is the only effective way to hunt for mountain lions, because there's no way you're going to sneak up on them.
01:00:02.000That's where numbers start to bloom and other animals like mule deer and stuff start to plummet, which I've heard a lot that's happening in California is the mule deer population has just been decimated because there's no control on the mountain lions.
01:00:30.000And getting to eat the mountain lion, which I know, again, people are like, what are you talking about eating mountain lion?
01:00:35.000I'm telling you folks, I haven't eaten one, but I'm telling you, and you said it, Brunella said it's one of the most delicious animals he's ever eaten.
01:00:43.000Yeah, I wanted to bring you some, but it's actually illegal to bring it in to California.
01:00:48.000Good thing we always abide by the law, Adam Green Tree.
01:01:25.000And I'm not saying everyone should go and hunt a mountain lion because you can't do that.
01:01:28.000But there's certain places that you can go and get a tag for the benefit of wildlife and go and hunt a mountain lion.
01:01:34.000People just have a hard time with the idea that you are somehow or another helping to control the population by killing an animal that kills other animals.
01:01:47.000They would rather let nature take its course.
01:01:49.000So even if, like, let's go to Africa now, even if the lion population way outweighed something and was running it to extinction, these people would want to sit back and just let that happen.
01:02:24.000Yeah, for the people that know it, they respect it and they appreciate it.
01:02:28.000You know, people like Backcountry Hunters and Anglers and all these different organizations, Rocky Mountain Elk Federation, a lot of different organizations they have in the United States that really appreciate what they're doing to promote that idea here in America.
01:02:42.000But people that don't hunt and don't It took me years to kind of wrap my head around it and really truly understand it and become educated as to how it works and how wildlife biologists set these standards and they do it based on healthy populations and how much time they spend doing surveys and analyzing the population,
01:03:00.000how important it is to these reports that hunters send in to wildlife organizations and the Department of Fish and Game.
01:03:09.000And I'm not a blanket killer either, because I understand where those people are coming from as well.
01:03:14.000We need a certain amount of that, because it could go the opposite way, where it's like, just go out and hunt everything, and it's not the case.
01:03:21.000If something's not in a good, healthy population, I'm not interested in hunting it at all myself.
01:03:25.000You know, I want to see these animals stay here for forever.
01:03:28.000I want my kids, kids, kids, kids to be able to see those animals in a good, healthy population.
01:03:33.000Yeah, like when I hear about limited entry tags for moose or something like that, because there's a small number and they'll let a certain amount of people...
01:03:42.000Whoa, what the fuck did you do out of a green tree?
01:04:08.000I found out, like, in some places they have a small amount of moose, and they'll let you hunt a moose, but it has to be, like, one moose, and it has to be over 50 inches, and, like, I'm out.
01:04:33.000And that's why these tag limits and that change from year to year as well.
01:04:37.000Like, I've seen them constantly change because they'll do their research or the kill wasn't big enough last year or the winner was too harsh and, you know, they start limiting tags.
01:05:28.000So, you know, we say jump the string, like when you shoot, like the deer hears the bow go off or something like that, and we call it jump the string, which you'll know about this, but a lot of people won't.
01:05:36.000They actually don't jump out of the string.
01:05:38.000When they miss your arrow, they actually drop...
01:06:23.000No idea I was there, and it was a nice wind, so when that arrow hit him, he was quartering away, when that hit him, he had no idea it was coming, and it nailed him perfect.
01:06:30.000Yeah, was that our trip, or a different one?
01:06:31.000Yeah, that was when I got out of the car and I saw one 15 minutes into the hunt.
01:06:38.000So I try and, it's the same with fellow deer back in Australia, like they're really fast off the mark.
01:06:43.000I'll try and shoot them when they're busy, you know, when they've got other noise happening, they're raking their antlers, they're stepping forward or something like that.
01:06:50.000And the few that I shot in Lanai, one was scruffing with another buck, so he was all busy and he didn't move at all and it pegged him.
01:06:58.000The other one was in high winds in the grass and had the grass like moving around it and he didn't move.
01:07:04.000And then the third one was on a really still day, and I actually aimed for his heart, and he dropped, and I ended up hitting him double lungs.
01:07:12.000They're so quick, it's like you need to...
01:08:33.000He'll go out at night and he'll shoot these deer and just leave them right where they lay, not take any meat off them or anything, but then kill one of his own cattle to fill his freezer and fridge.
01:08:42.000And the first time he'd actually eaten venison was when I shot a deer on his property and I cut it up and I actually gave it to him.
01:08:50.000That was the first time he'd ever eaten venison.
01:08:52.000I'm like, John, you're killing your own cattle, this delicious meat sitting right there.
01:08:57.000There's this wild resource and it's renewable because they fuck each other, they breed.
01:09:02.000Yeah, and so he's eating his own cattle instead of selling them?
01:09:05.000Yeah, and the other thing is, another way that I've always looked at it is these wild animals are there, whether you like it or not.
01:09:39.000Yeah, and it's not just the taste, it's that whole feeling thing.
01:09:42.000Like, I went and got this, I earned this, I killed this, I know where this comes from, you're attached to it.
01:09:47.000We've spoken about it before, but when you get meat that's served in a package at the supermarket, that goes through past hundreds and hundreds of people's hands and breaths and stuff like that, you know, and It's just like having sex with Scarlett Johansson in the virtual reality world.
01:10:15.000It's real meat, but it's meat that's made in a lab.
01:10:18.000And that's the, I don't know what they're calling it, ethical meat or whatever the fuck they're calling it, but it's the future of meat production.
01:10:26.000And, you know, this is making animal rights people very excited because they're basically going to have just lab meat.
01:10:32.000That's so fucking, yeah, so you know what's going to happen?
01:10:35.000No more cows, no more domestic pigs, no more, the shit that they love.
01:10:39.000Like the reason that cow's there is because there's a demand for meat.
01:10:45.000No one's going to let these cows and sheep and domestic pigs and shit run around on their landscape and take up real estate if there's no market for them.
01:12:04.000Texas is probably, in the United States, is the biggest example of what happens when, or the best example of what happens when these feral hogs are just completely out of control.
01:12:13.000They just devastate these agricultural farms.
01:12:17.000They have these farms and they're just getting destroyed.
01:12:20.000Yeah, and it's all the wildlife, other wildlife as well, because they eat frogs and they'll eat lizards and anything that's on the ground that's edible, they'll eat it.
01:12:29.000I wrote an article years ago, it was called...
01:12:34.000It was a place in Australia and the property owners, like the ranchers, called me up and they said, you need to come out and shoot some of the foxes, like they're devastating our lambs.
01:12:45.000And I ended up going out there and when I was driving in with the four-wheel drive at night with the high beams on, I seen this massive big black and white boar walking between the flock of sheep with a lamb in its mouth.
01:12:56.000There was this pig and it had got a taste for meat.
01:12:58.000And it happens all the time, like So a big boar, especially a mature animal, will get a taste for meat in harsher conditions and they'll just stick to meat after that.
01:13:07.000And I end up catching up with this pig the next morning and shot it with the bow.
01:13:12.000The first shot wasn't perfect and it charged me and I end up like stabbing it to death.
01:13:17.000I was on a slope like this on the mountain and it was really a battle.
01:13:22.000He ended up hooking the bow out of my hand because when he charged me, I put an arrow on and shot and just went down one side and hit one lung.
01:13:29.000It just infuriated this bore and he was on me.
01:13:33.000When I was fending him off with the bow, his tusk went into the bottom limb of the bow or the cam or something like that and ripped the bow out of my hand.
01:13:41.000And I end up getting my knife off me and I end up like stabbing this pig while it was like trying to run me over.
01:13:57.000Probably not 300. Our mountain boars just get real solid.
01:14:00.000Yeah, probably 200 or something like that.
01:14:03.000And anyway, I end up stabbing this thing to death.
01:14:06.000And when I end up cutting it open, its whole insides, like its whole stomach was like lamb's hocks, like the feet, the bottom of the feet where they can't swallow and skulls and just like little bits of wool and stuff like that.
01:14:24.000Yeah, and it's a really known occurrence in Australia now that if things get harsh, they'll just go, they'll just, because they're just absolutely ruthless.
01:14:31.000They'll just walk right between the sheep and just fucking grab a lamb, walk off of it, chew it up and eat it.
01:14:36.000But anyway, first thing in that morning that I found was a pig spew and it was like this fucking spew like this and it was the same as lambs, hocks and it was like- What's a spew?
01:15:59.000They'll get so desperate, like you'll shoot a pig, you're going for the farmer and you're just shooting them, you're not even really taking any meat off them because they're like, they're eating meat themselves and they're like skin and bones and disgusting.
01:16:12.000It's more of like a cull mission and you'll come back in the afternoon and that pig will be completely skin and bones because the other pigs just get in there and just, and you'll hear them, you'll just hear them just scream and it's the most god-awful sound there is.
01:19:24.000But their understanding of population control and wildlife management and just the reality of human beings, I just don't think they're getting it.
01:23:30.000And that conservation is very important for the elk population, the moose population, the deer population, because they kill an estimated 50% of all moose calves, elk calves, deer fawns.
01:24:26.000You know, and it's just like, because I always say, I always tell people about that one that was sleeping on an elk kill that I had, a grizzly.
01:24:34.000Yeah, we showed it on the podcast the other day.
01:24:37.000And I remember I yelled at that grizzly, the one that was sleeping on the elk carcass, and it fucking disappeared so fast and quietly, dude.
01:24:45.000And I'm like, if you don't have eyes on one coming at you, you don't know it's going to come at you until you hit, until it's on your fucking eating your face off.
01:27:43.000If they have some DNA, because it would be nice to have some sort of an animal like that that could knock down some of the populations of kangaroos and deer.
01:28:21.000My buddy Jace, so this was the first hunt that I did when I come to America.
01:28:26.000We flew into Idaho and we drove straight down to southern Colorado to hunt Pronghorn.
01:28:30.000And we're driving into the property at, like, 2am in the morning, and there's a pronghorn just standing on the side of the road, you know, and it's just, like, it's dazed, you know?
01:28:39.000So my buddy Jace pulls up, he walks over to it, and, like, literally touches it on the head, like it's, like, it's just, like, walking down the road, and we're like, did it get hit by a car?
01:28:49.000Next minute I see him jump back, a rattlesnake had bit the...
01:30:23.000It wasn't a single specimen found that was thought to be lost forever, then unexpectedly three were caught just a few years later, the extinct species marked on.
01:30:32.000So that may be the case with the Tasmanian tiger.
01:30:39.000Galante's a wildlife biologist made his life's mission to search for animals that have wrongly been deemed extinct and among those species on his list is the Tasmanian tiger.
01:30:56.000He's been traveled around the world searching for evidence of species like Tasmanian dival Pachylemur and the Newfoundland white wolf still exist.
01:31:06.000Hundreds of species deemed extinct worldwide annually.
01:31:09.000This process isn't foolproof, and every now and then, animals are rediscovered after they were thought to be gone forever, but proving the animal's still out there is no easy feat.
01:31:25.000Captured footage of a Zanzibar leopard, which is thought to be extinct for 25 years due to persecution by local hunters in the Zanzibar archipelago in Tasmania.
01:33:25.000So I think if you've got a legitimate reason to have a gun, you know, like you don't have a criminal record, you don't have a mental illness or something like that, you should have a right to have a gun.
01:35:08.000Yeah, because I would feel like, especially with population control, something like fallow deer, if you have that many of them, and I know there's places that are just erupting with them, you would have to shoot them, right?
01:35:29.000And in Australia, a lot of the times, a good example is actually across the pond in New Zealand, where they're like, fuck, we need to shoot 30,000 tar, you know, tar that live in the mountains there.
01:35:40.000And because they're introduced, tar are introduced.
01:35:43.000And I don't think there was a lot of hunters arguing at the time, and no one was really arguing that we needed to shoot some tar, but we wouldn't like fucking shoot 30,000 of them, because they shoot them from a helicopter and they leave them rot on the mountain.
01:37:02.000Because they're like, just, I mean, even if it's a couple hundred acres or a couple thousand acres, they're fenced in and the animals aren't going anywhere.
01:37:50.000Well, there's also different sizes of these partitions.
01:37:54.000So, like, if you're in a place, like, there's some places in Texas that are 10,000 acres, like, look, that's so far beyond that animal's wild range that you might as well be in a wild, even if there's a fence, you know, 80 miles in that direction, when the fuck are you ever going to get to that fence if you're a deer?
01:40:05.000Well, we did, we did, uh, Oregon, we did New Mexico and we did Montana for elk and we're just like busting our ass the whole time, you know?
01:40:16.000And then I ended up getting one that it was like the one, I actually really just wanted Kim to get a shoot a bull, her first bull, you know, cause she's been going at it.
01:40:24.000And the one afternoon that she took off because she was doing some homeschooling with the kids and trying to get on top of all that, the perfect opportunity popped up and ended up shooting this bull and then we never had a good opportunity again, you know, which sucked.
01:40:38.000But the thing is that's made her hungrier for it this season.
01:40:42.000She realises how hard it is, how difficult it is, and she'll appreciate it much more.
01:40:47.000Well, it's cool that she is determined, that it's not discouraging her.
01:40:51.000The difficulty, oftentimes for a lot of people, that difficulty, because you're out there seven days, ten days, your feet are killing you, you're exhausted, and you're like, I'm just going to go to the fucking Super Bowl.
01:43:44.000I think when you catch a fish, when it's on the, like, the excitement, like, it doesn't necessarily even make sense if there's not some sort of a genetic component to it.
01:44:47.000I feel like I'm in my element, but even the first time that I shot something and I was cutting it up for meat, I felt so comfortable doing it straight away.
01:44:56.000It's like I've done this a million times before.
01:45:03.000Brian Callen, in fact, said the same thing, and he and I went hunting for the first time, and he's like, it just seems like something we've always done.
01:47:57.000Even though it's a part of my family's heritage, like my grandfather, he'd go out trapping, my uncles would go out trapping, my dad would do a bit of hunting.
01:48:06.000Not bow hunting, it was different, you know.
01:48:08.000And it was almost like it wasn't even called hunting back then.
01:48:11.000That's what I always think about our ancestors, like hunting's almost like a modern word that we made up.
01:48:41.000But because people know that I hunt, like, people will find me.
01:48:44.000Like, if there's a guy, like, somewhere, and, you know, like, he wants to meet me somewhere, it's like the first thing that comes up almost, like, instantly, we know each other.
01:49:34.000And even if you're happy to share a spot, because I go to a lot of different spots and social media asks me to tell these spots and I never do because that spot could be someone else's paradise that they've fucking spent 10 years to find.
01:49:53.000It's like, even though these places are beautiful and everybody owns them, the last thing you want is what's happening right now in Joshua Tree, right?
01:49:59.000A bunch of people going there, chopping down trees, leaving fucking trash everywhere.
01:50:03.000Well, that's one thing I really like about what you do, too.
01:50:05.000You always make videos of these trash that you pick up.
01:50:09.000Well, I started the thing, so I brought a bunch of gear with me, and I'm fortunate.
01:50:13.000I've got really good sponsors, and they send me a bunch of gear as well so I could do the trip over here without bringing everything.
01:50:19.000And I was walking around New Mexico, actually, and I was looking at all the trash sitting around, and I was like, fuck it, I'm going to give away all my equipment for this trip, virtually all my main hunting gear, backpack, bow, friggin' Yeti cooler, whatever, you know.
01:50:34.000And for anyone that tags me in an image of them picking up trash, and I'm not going to say the...
01:50:40.000The description of it now because it's pretty much ended.
01:50:42.000I've given the bow away and all my gear.
01:50:45.000Because these hunters are doing that anyway, but I just thought I'd really drive it home, you know?
01:51:03.000It was, because it's disheartening when you've got that connection to the wild, you see that, you know, like, fuck, that doesn't belong here.
01:51:24.000I was out on the trail yesterday with my dog and just came across this Bud Light can and I just stopped and just staring at this can down the ground.
01:51:33.000I wanted to find the guy who did it and shove it down his fucking throat.
01:52:27.000If that was in Australia, if that was in America, it'd be so fucking vandalised it's not funny.
01:52:32.000But New Zealand's got a certain type of people that go out the bush, the mountains, and there's a certain respect that comes with it, and maybe it's from Maori culture or something like that that goes with it.
01:52:54.000They stack it where it can stay dry, you know, things like that.
01:52:57.000And it's something that goes without saying with me and my people how we sort of do.
01:53:01.000That's how we are, respectable for the land.
01:53:03.000But there's so many people that aren't.
01:53:05.000That's a beautiful thing if you find a community like that, that everybody agrees to respect that area, everybody agrees to do that and take care of things.
01:53:13.000I mean, if you can really come across something like that, like we were talking about in New Zealand, there's just a great feeling of community that comes with that.
01:53:20.000There seems to be a tight hunting community in America as well, where obviously none of that thing would happen, but there's so many people that go out into the outdoors that...
01:53:30.000They belong there, so I don't want to say they don't belong there, but the truth is, as soon as you litter or something, you don't fucking belong there.
01:54:14.000I've constantly been fighting it and that's why I have the social media and stuff to keep promoting the outdoors and good things in life and things like that.
01:54:23.000But another part of me is like And I nearly did it last year.
01:54:26.000I was just like, fuck, I want to go off the grid.
01:54:42.000And it's like the next step would be having our own chickens, collecting our own eggs, growing our own vegetables, like living off the land, you know.
01:54:49.000Do you want to have like a phone out there?
01:56:48.000Her son's going to take over her partnership, you know, the joint venture with her and stuff like that, which would be really good for him and still, you know, allow an income into the family and things like that, so...
01:57:44.000Like, we don't watch the news at home.
01:57:46.000We don't tune into anything like that.
01:57:48.000We just sort of live our life and it's like what affects us, unless it's affecting the greater community in a sense for the worse, you know, because the country's run by fucking clowns.
01:58:38.000I did all the security fencing around some of the detention centres.
01:58:43.000So you're pretty much, you're on that island, you know, and then you get shipped to like the hottest, most fucking arid part of Australia, like it's deaf.
01:58:54.000And then I believe they're there for so long and then they can, you know, they either get shipped back home or they can go out to the broader community in Australia, which they get treated very well, obviously.
02:00:33.000And by the way, if you are one of the original people that came here, I mean, one of the original European settlers, you're probably a fucking slave owner.
02:00:43.000If you didn't come over here as a recent immigrant, like I'm third generation, my grandparents came over here from Europe, If they didn't, then if they were here for 10, 15 generations, they're probably fucking slave owners.
02:01:47.000Unless the whole world was like that, then borders would be easy to cross.
02:01:50.000Well, that's essentially what America is.
02:01:52.000We've been talking about this a lot, that America is essentially like Europe, but everybody speaks the same language, but you can go to any country.
02:01:58.000Like, New Mexico is fucking way different than Miami, right?
02:02:02.000Miami is way different than L.A. L.A. is way different than Seattle.
02:02:06.000Those are all almost like completely different places, but you could go to them.
02:02:13.000You could travel anywhere where the opportunity was, where you thought you could get a good job, and you want to better yourself and your family.
02:02:29.000Well, it would be nice if one day the whole world rises up.
02:02:34.000And, you know, when you look at the Western world, whether it's Europe or the United States and places where things are going really well, or Asia, it would be nice if the whole planet was like that.
02:02:44.000If there was no third world, if everything was fantastic, if everything was just basically just like we're talking about here, hey, you can live in Phoenix, or you can live in Billings, Montana, or you could live in Massachusetts.
02:03:29.000I think Africa, like I always threaten my kids, and it's not a fret because they love it, but I always say I'm fucking taking it to Africa because however long ago when I went to Africa, like I was watching little babies in a village crawl around in like three, four inches of dust.
02:03:46.000Every second person you met had fucking war scars on their face in Mozambique and Zimbabwe.
02:03:52.000And you're driving down, there's a roadblock, there's dudes with fucking AK-47s that are duct-taped together.
02:03:58.000There's a guy on the side of the road with a fucking bazooka, a rocket launcher, and you don't know if they're friend or foe.
02:04:04.000And this is just normal, everyday life going for Africa.
02:04:08.000There's a tourist bus on the side of the road.
02:07:30.000And I'm like, why the fuck would you do that?
02:07:34.000But people, they're fucking caught up in the whole system.
02:07:38.000If you drive out to, like, you go up the 5 and head towards, like, Palmdale or Bakersfield or any place out there, and you see traffic at, like, 6 o'clock in the morning, bumper to bumper...
02:09:13.000I feel so sorry for anyone that's caught up with that.
02:09:16.000It's so rare that it snows out there, too.
02:09:17.000No one knows what the fuck to do when it snows.
02:09:20.000I grew up in Boston, and in the snow, I had to drive every day in the snow because I delivered newspapers.
02:09:27.000That was my job from the time I was like 17 till I was 22-ish, somewhere around there, maybe the last time I stopped, 22, 23. I got up every fucking morning.
02:11:52.000But the thought of having to be on someone else's timeline then, I was like, I fucking don't want to do that.
02:12:00.000Right now, I'm just doing me and whatever happens, happens.
02:12:03.000And it's like your situation, you know?
02:12:05.000Yeah, if I even had a guy that I had to check in with once a month and say, so, everything looks good, we've got an upward trend here, I'd be like, ugh!
02:12:14.000That fucking phone call would be haunting me.
02:12:17.000And I'm such a spare-of-the-moment guy.
02:12:20.000You know, like, this hunt's come up, I'm going there.
02:12:23.000I want to do this with the kids or the kid and the family, I'm going and doing it.
02:13:45.000I decided to stop working on New Year's.
02:13:47.000Because right now, I can't really work anyway, like legitimately for a couple months, because I don't have enough material, because I just did a Netflix special, and I want to make sure...
02:13:58.000I don't want anybody coming to see me and I'm half-assed.
02:14:01.000So if I'm doing sets around LA, like right now, I could rock it for 20 minutes or a half hour.
02:14:30.000People get babysitters, and they take time out of their day.
02:14:33.000I've got to be prepared, so I work hard at it.
02:14:36.000So I was thinking about New Year's, and when it came, they were trying to set up New Year's gigs for me, and I'm like, not only am I not ready, I don't think I want to do it, because it seems like such a big event.
02:19:56.000Yeah, so we end up, we flew into Idaho, then we went to Southern Colorado, then we went to New Mexico, back to Southern Colorado, back up to Idaho, and then I end up flying out.
02:20:08.000No, we end up driving to Eastern Oregon to hunt bull elk.
02:20:11.000Then I end up flying out to Arizona to hunt elk as well on the Navajo reservation, which was really cool.
02:21:24.000There's been some good arguments on the way, but they're pretty good.
02:21:27.000I'm like, fuck, they're like either locked in a trailer or locked in the car or we're in like an Airbnb or something like that and they're all gathered together and And it's not until you're around other people's kids that you realise how good your own kids are.
02:21:40.000Because I'm always like, they're naughty, you know?
02:21:42.000And then you're around other kids and you're like, fuck, our kids are saints.
02:21:50.000But yeah, then we went from Texas to Utah, hung out at Utah for a while.
02:21:54.000Then I drove back to Colorado, come back to Utah again.
02:21:58.000Well, what's ironic is that you as an Australian and your family as Australians are getting to see more of America than most Americans ever do.
02:25:43.000So he put this post up and it's about this politician that, you know, he goes, you know, it's a pretty decent fucking writing that he's done up about, you know, how the guy's not doing his job and stuff like that.
02:25:53.000And they're going to take this public land away from us or close it.
02:25:56.000And in the comments, I'm like, so basically what you're saying is he's a cunt.
02:26:03.000And like, we can get there a lot quicker.