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00:01:05.000But there was a study actually that came out.
00:01:08.000It was just like two days ago on that TMAO, the sugar that is associated with Right, when your body takes excess protein and it turns it into sugar.
00:01:45.000That conversion to glucose is a different sugar than the TMAO. So what the TMAO is, is that's going to be present if you aren't getting enough fiber or if your biome isn't balanced.
00:01:56.000But what this study a couple of days looked at was people who were eating like a fish and egg and plant-rich diet, and they had high levels of TMAO too, but they weren't deleterious.
00:02:08.000They're actually protective because they had the fiber.
00:02:11.000Yeah, and I mean, you could do a carnivore diet if you were—there's a few populations that do this, like in Spain.
00:02:18.000I forget the name of the sausage, but they'll eat the ruminant, like they'll eat the intestine of the ruminant and get their grasses and their fibers and their plants literally by eating the stomach of the animal.
00:02:30.000Yeah, and it's the same issue with methionine, too much of the amino acid methionine from just eating red meat.
00:02:38.000Would be deleterious, but if you're getting glycine and some of these other amino acids, if you're eating like nose to tail, right?
00:02:45.000Bone marrow, bone broth, all the organ meats, you know, head cheese, Braunschweiger, just like all these different mixes of meats, I think that would be the way to do a carnivore diet.
00:02:55.000Yeah, there's a lot of people that are proponents of that as well.
00:02:58.000And then there's a bunch of people that are, you know, it's interesting because you've got a, there's a disparity between the anecdotal accounts of health and well-being and then blood work.
00:04:07.000The problem is that it's, you know, I don't want to call anybody out and call them lazy, but it's almost like kind of a very easy lazy-esque approach because rather than figuring out how to do, you know, like that sourdough bread,
00:04:23.000it's slow fermented, the rye and the wheat are in there, but all the phytic acid that would normally inhibit your ability to absorb minerals Is pre-digested by the lactobacillus and all the bacteria in the wheat.
00:04:37.000So you've got a bread that's lower in a glycemic index, and it's more easily digested.
00:04:43.000Which is why both rye and sourdough are more healthy for you.
00:04:46.000Right, and you put the rye in it because it lowers the glycemic index.
00:04:50.000And then you've got the, what's it called?
00:05:05.000It's not 24 hours, but it's like 15 minutes over 24 hours that it takes to make it.
00:05:10.000That's an intelligent approach to food preparation, right?
00:05:14.000That's the way that our ancestors or many of the Blue Zones would have treated their foods, fermenting, soaking, sprouting, slow food.
00:05:21.000And you can take a lot of these things that would result in, you know, you're talking about Jordan Peterson.
00:05:25.000I know his daughter does this as well, Michaela Peterson.
00:05:29.000They use that elimination diet, which is the carnivore diet, to clear up a lot of those autoimmune issues, but you could also just render food more digestible or switch to an elimination diet or an autoimmune diet for 8 weeks or 12 weeks, something like the carnivore diet,
00:05:46.000heal the gut, and then return back to a more all-inclusive eating pattern.
00:05:50.000That allows you to eat dairy, wheat, plants, etc.
00:05:55.000All these things that would normally damage the gut if the gut is actually leaky.
00:06:26.000Some of the gum in the joint stuff might be just as much related to the fact that he's getting a shit ton of collagen, fiber, or not fiber, but elastin and muscle fiber precursors.
00:06:53.000Is that when you eliminate inflammatory products that you're consuming, like let's say you're eating whatever, you know, Wonder Bread and commercial dairy or unfermented soy or any of these things that can actually damage the lining of the gut, you're creating an inflammatory scenario.
00:07:07.000And I know you're familiar with the gut-brain axis and how our gut interacts with our nervous system via the vagus nerve.
00:07:14.000And when you have inflammation in the gut, that affects neural symptoms, it affects sleep, it affects intellectual performance, and then you've also got the autoimmune component.
00:07:22.000If you're actually truly allergic to or intolerant to some of those proteins that wind up in the bloodstream in the presence of a leaky gut, plant proteins, lectins are another one that a lot of people complain about, then you create Almost like a full-body damage scenario.
00:07:40.000So the idea is you get rid of all that stuff, you introduce the carnivore diet, and I don't know that there's a lot of components of the carnivore diet that are actually healing the gut as much as it's the absence or elimination of the foods that were harming it.
00:08:36.000He's like, until you are actually physically doing something, until you are actually doing something with that diet, and then you report how much better you feel with the people that are actually training really hard, those are the ones you should rely on.
00:08:47.000And he's saying, for him, personally, he's never felt better, never been leaner.
00:08:52.000Yeah, and a big part of it, I mean, this just returns to diet personalization and customization as a whole.
00:08:58.000You know, we live in an era where you can self-quantify pretty easily with genetics, and you can find out what ancestry you came from, what blood markers that you have, what your gut microbiome looks like.
00:09:26.000Those diseases don't actually manifest because of their traditional diet.
00:09:31.000Like you look at like the Icelandic population that carries the genes that would render them more susceptible to something like depression or seasonal affective disorder.
00:09:39.000But their diet is very rich in omega-3 fatty acids and DHA, which we know can protect against those disorders.
00:09:46.000And you take the Icelandic population and you uproot them and put them in the context of a westernized diet.
00:09:51.000And all of a sudden depression and SAD manifest.
00:10:25.000And you get a large portion of the African American population developing colon cancer.
00:10:29.000That's crazy about the seasonal affective disorder.
00:10:33.000And you got to wonder how would that affect people that live in Seattle, the Pacific Northwest that are dealing with constant rain?
00:10:38.000I wonder if that would have some sort of an impact on them.
00:10:41.000Probably even more if you come from that population.
00:10:43.000I mean, I'm on the Spokane side, but I'm out in the middle of the forest.
00:10:47.000I get sun for maybe 10 to 2, and I'm on the north-facing slope, and I work indoors a lot of the time.
00:10:52.000I'm typing on my computer, I'm blogging, and so I don't get a lot of sun exposure.
00:10:59.000That's where all these newfangled light panels and head-worn light devices and things come in that were actually developed for seasonal affective disorder that actually work pretty well just to keep your mood up.
00:11:09.000If you're working indoors, you don't get sunlight exposure.
00:11:12.000Right, but Spokane is a different environment, right?
00:11:14.000You're not dealing with the constant rain that they're dealing with on the actual coast?
00:11:38.000I used to go over there and race the Ironman, and they'd have that in Lake Coeur d'Alene.
00:11:43.000It's an iconic race just because, I mean, the mountains, the lake, everything is just gorgeous.
00:11:47.000I saw pictures of the lake where people were taking photographs of the bottom of the lake, like from 100 feet, 100 feet deep of water, you could see the bottom of the lake.
00:12:43.000So you walk into the infrared, it's like 155 to 158 degrees, most of them.
00:12:48.000There's a couple that'll go up to like 170. Even though the air is cooler, the actual photons of light that are being released by the panels, you're surrounded by infrared panels while you're in there.
00:13:01.000Those penetrate more deeply into tissue.
00:13:03.000So you wind up getting a deeper sweat.
00:13:06.000You can stay in there longer because it's not quite as hot.
00:13:10.000But you look at like the studies out of Finland, right?
00:13:13.000These studies that show four to five year lifespan increases from a weekly sauna protocol of, you know, I think it's like four times a week for 20 to 30 minutes.
00:13:23.000And the significant drop in dementia and Alzheimer's and a lot of these mortality risk factors.
00:13:30.000And you look at the studies that have been done in athletes where you get almost an erythropoietin, like a blood doping effect from sauna exposure when done post-workout.
00:13:40.000You stay in there for 20 to 30 minutes post-workout.
00:13:42.000All of these were done in a dry sauna.
00:13:45.000Yeah, that's why I use a dry sauna, as per Rhonda Patrick's recommendation.
00:13:50.000I just got that because she said there's no real studies like that.
00:15:15.000They have televisions in there so you can even watch things, like watch directionals or watch some sort of instructional video on exercise.
00:15:23.000Yeah, that's what I think they're doing is they're trying to have you do your workout.
00:15:26.000Like you look at a screen in the sauna and you do your workout while you're looking at the screen in the sauna.
00:15:48.000In an ideal scenario, I would like it.
00:15:50.000I don't have a dry sauna, but I would like to get a barrel sauna because I have the infrared.
00:15:54.000In my basement, it's one of those big ones, like the four-person infrared sauna that you can get into an exercise, you can have more people in there, do yoga, whatnot.
00:16:03.000And I'm 6'2", but I can get into a full down dog or get into a lunge or whatever.
00:16:08.000But I'd love to have a dry sauna as well.
00:18:41.000You know, you're getting cold and when you take off the blood pressure cuffs, what happens is you've got a bunch of lactic acid trapped in the muscle as you're moving.
00:18:51.000And typically you're doing like 30 seconds as hard as you can go.
00:18:53.000So you might go in pretty heavy wattage, like 600-800 watts for 15 to 30 seconds and then you recover.
00:19:00.000And when you finish and you take those cuffs off, you get this amplification in growth hormone Testosterone, and based on some of the research they're talking about now, stem cell mobilization.
00:19:55.000I'm sorry, what would be the equivalent of 100 to 200 milligrams in a human on a rodent model?
00:20:02.000A lot of the studies on supplementation, same thing with TBI and concussion.
00:20:07.000You hear about DHA and fish oil for that, but you need to take a lot of fish oil, a lot of DHA. If you extrapolate from the rodent models, you're looking at 50 to 60 grams of DHA or fish oil to manage TBI or concussion.
00:20:23.000It's a lot of DHA, but if you were going to use a multimodal approach to TBI or to Alzheimer's or dementia, I'm a huge fan of that.
00:20:33.000I'm a fan of hyperbaric oxygen therapy.
00:20:40.000These light devices that you wear on your head now.
00:20:44.000They've got a lot of research coming out on something called photobiomodulation for TBI, and these things produce hertz frequencies at 10 to 40 hertz range.
00:20:57.000Typically, there's like a probe that goes into your nose, and they've got new research coming out on this for restoring blood flow to the head, increasing your alpha brainwave production, your gamma brainwave production.
00:21:28.000You get increased production of nitric oxide.
00:21:30.000And this kind of returns to what I was talking about with seasonal affective disorder, where you can use a lot of these new things that are designed to deliver infrared light or light to the body.
00:21:40.000To increase mitochondrial density or to increase blood flow or to increase nitric oxide.
00:21:45.000And people are now using this for TBI and concussion.
00:21:50.000Actually, last time I was on the show, we were talking about how when I got that concussion in Austin, I did a self-administered infusion of sugar alcohols.
00:21:59.000And then I followed that up with stem cells because I had my stem cells stored down in Florida and also in this lab called Forever Labs in Berkeley.
00:22:08.000I chased it with a stem cell injection because when you inject sugar alcohol into your bloodstream, it renders your blood-brain barrier more permeable, and then the stem cells can cross over through the blood-brain barrier.
00:23:02.000I mean, so normally, if you were to get 500 to 1,000 milligrams of NAD, most people will sit under a four to a six-hour drip IV to do that.
00:23:11.000And one reason for that, that they say, is that you get less of it degraded by the liver and the kidneys and the gut as the NAD goes into the body.
00:23:21.000But I think that the bigger factor is simply the fact that when you do a push, like you're nauseous, you feel like your whole body's on fire.
00:23:29.000I mean, you feel like Superman afterwards, but it's a very, very uncomfortable IV. And I don't want anybody pushing that in except me.
00:23:37.000I want to be in charge of the trigger when I'm putting that thing in because I've got to stop and go and stop and go.
00:23:44.000It's more convenient than sitting down and doing an IV. So a push, you would actually have a nurse actually pushing down on the button as things are going?
00:23:56.000I do about two ticks on the syringe at a time because it's a 30 ml syringe.
00:24:03.000So I'll go like two cc's, then stop, and you can feel like your heart rate go up and you get nauseous and your skin kind of flushes a little bit.
00:24:09.000And you breathe it off, then you wait like 10-15 seconds and you do another push.
00:24:13.000Kyle Kingsbury was saying it felt like his guts were on fire.
00:24:37.000I started to listen to your podcast with David Sinclair on the car ride over, and he's talking about this NMN stuff, which supposedly, when orderly administered, simulates a lot of what NR, nicotinamide riboside, which is one thing that a lot of people are taking for anti-aging,
00:24:53.000and NAD, which is what we were just talking about, administered via either...
00:24:57.000In most cases, it's IV. There's a couple companies doing like an oral NAD version.
00:25:02.000But supposedly, NMN, I don't know if Sinclair has any human studies coming out on this right now, or at least released.
00:25:11.000But he's done rodent studies and shown that it's like...
00:25:15.000The NAD, from what I understand though, and this returns to the TBI concussion piece, crosses the blood-brain barrier easily or more easily than NMN or NR. So if you were doing it for like a cognitive or a neurological effect, you may want to choose NAD. Sounds to me like from the research I've seen,
00:25:31.000if you were doing it for the exercise effect, maybe you'd choose NMN or NR. Interesting.
00:26:12.000If I have to compress into 10 minutes, it hurts.
00:26:15.000I like to at least allow for 20 minutes and then you follow it up in most cases with like an IV cocktail, like a Myers cocktail, vitamin cocktail.
00:26:28.000Supposedly, it enhances your stem cell mobilization or the activity of stem cells.
00:26:33.000It allows the ND to be absorbed to the cells more easily.
00:26:36.000So you basically, I mean, the way I do it is I use it like just a butterfly needle, and you do the NAD administration, and then you just unscrew the end of the butterfly needle line, and then you put the vitamin cocktail in to follow up with vitamin cocktail, which takes like 30 to 60 seconds,
00:27:19.000So your body might recognize that it has a surplus of NAD. It's got a lot of NAD. It doesn't need to make more.
00:27:25.000One of the very interesting things, though, I did a couple of weeks ago was I went to New York City, and I got NAD from this doctor, Dr. Chen, over there.
00:27:35.000But then he infused me with CoQ10 and a bunch of other vitamins to allow my body to make more of what are called Adult pluripotent stem cells.
00:27:46.000They're also known as V-cells, very small embryonic-like cells.
00:27:50.000Now, if you've heard of parabiosis before, this idea of taking the blood from young mice and transferring that into old mice, there was research that they did at Stanford University on this, you impart essentially enhanced longevity to the old mice.
00:28:07.000The idea is that's a non-autologous transfer.
00:28:10.000That's the transfer of blood from a young, healthy donor into an older recipient.
00:28:15.000And there are companies now in Silicon Valley doing this, like the Young Blood Institute.
00:28:19.000For like $8,000, this company called Ambrosia will give you the plasma from a young, healthy donor.
00:28:25.000Is there any evidence that that does anything good for you, though, other than the studies that they've done on mice?
00:28:30.000I don't know of any studies on humans.
00:28:41.000No, I did an autologous version of that.
00:28:43.000So I didn't want to put somebody else's blood into my body.
00:28:46.000So what I did was I had this doc take out a pint of my blood.
00:28:49.000And what happens is if you put all these vitamins like NAD and stuff into your blood, it increases your stem cell production.
00:28:56.000If you stress the blood after that, it dumps out a bunch of these tiny little adult pluripotent stem cells, which is exactly the same type of cell that you're getting when you do one of these young blood transfers.
00:29:07.000So he stresses that overnight in cold.
00:29:10.000You can use cold, you could use pressure, you could use anything to increase the stem cell release from the blood cells.
00:29:16.000But they get stressed out, they release stem cells, and then what happens is you get them injected back into your body afterwards.
00:29:22.000So is this similar to what they're doing with Regenikine?
00:29:26.000I don't think it's anything like that.
00:29:27.000Well, you know, Regenikine, they take the blood out and they stress it with heat and then they spin it in a centrifuge.
00:29:32.000Yeah, but I think, and I don't know a lot about what Regenikine is doing, but I think they're more concentrating the growth factors.
00:29:42.000I know they've got some overseas places where they're doing like a culture expanded or something like that.
00:29:48.000But as far as in the U.S., this protocol is one of the few that I know of where you could take your own blood and get a lot of that same stuff that you'd get from Culture Expanded or from parabiosis, like using the blood of somebody else, and you get all these stem cells released into your body.
00:30:04.000So you essentially get the same effect as you would if you took young person's blood?
00:30:45.000Hydrodissection is a protocol where they take a liquid and they use the liquid to act like the scalpel or the knife that a surgeon would use to remove adhesions like scar tissue adhesions or separate a nerve that's causing pain or discomfort or lack of mobility in a certain joint.
00:31:05.000But when they do a nerve hydrodissection, they don't have to use something like they'd use in prolotherapy, like sugar water or regular water.
00:31:15.000What I had done, and this was at a clinic called BioReset in San Jose with Dr. Matt Cook down there.
00:32:01.000Now, this is for only a buildup of adhesion and scar tissue?
00:32:05.000What about for people that might need a scoping?
00:32:09.000Yeah, it was developed for nerve pain.
00:32:11.000And what they found was that it actually seems to cause some kind of a release of the scar tissue, followed by an increase in the blood flow, which is difficult to get in some areas of the knee.
00:32:22.000So, yeah, I mean, if I ever get to the point where somebody wants to scope my knee or something like that, I would I would definitely consider doing that treatment first.
00:32:32.000It worked very well, and it was just quick and easy.
00:32:35.000I had a meniscus issue, and I got exosomes shot into there.
00:32:41.000Every time I've done it, I've experienced a good benefit from it, but then I beat the shit out of it.
00:32:47.000I think I gave it not enough time to heal up before I started pounding again.
00:32:51.000I would give it a week off, then start running again.
00:32:53.000But now I'm going to give it a full six weeks.
00:32:56.000With no pounding, no running hills, nothing crazy.
00:33:00.000And I've experienced, just in the two weeks since the procedure, a very significant decrease in pain, no inflammation, decrease in discomfort.
00:33:09.000I have to try to make it feel weird now.
00:33:13.000And it seems like every week that's more and more difficult to do, and the range of motion's increased.
00:33:19.000I basically can go all the way down with my ass to my ankles, no problem.
00:33:24.000I bend all the way down and back all the way up with no discomfort, no weirdness.
00:33:28.000Yeah, I kind of question the one thing, because I've asked myself this before, and I don't know if you have.
00:33:34.000When you get a protocol like that done and you kind of go easy on your knee because you really want it to work and you start backing off of some of that stuff you were doing anyways, how much of it is you just backing off of what you were doing and how much of it is the exosomes and the stem cells?
00:33:48.000I know because I did try to back off initially and it didn't have any impact at all.
00:33:53.000When I backed off initially with nothing, I said let me just take some time off and see if I can let it heal up.
00:34:53.000Yeah, well, BPC-157, that's the only one that's still legal, according to USADA and WADA, for athletes to use.
00:35:02.000And that one decreases inflammation and increases blood flow.
00:35:07.000And then the other one, the one that's not allowed anymore is TB500, thymosin beta 500, and that one repairs the actin and the myosin fibers.
00:35:16.000And so in a gold standard protocol, you go back and forth between the two.
00:35:20.000So you switch it up one day, one the next day?
00:35:23.000Yeah, you just inject subcutaneously near the site of injury.
00:40:24.000I've tried a bunch of different rubs on that, but just coarse salt and black pepper works fine for the beer can chicken.
00:40:29.000You empty about half of the beer can out.
00:40:31.000You open up the beer can, but then you poke a couple extra holes in the top so you get more of the steam so the inside of the chicken gets even more moist.
00:40:39.000But then what I figured out is if you use like a little scalpel or exacto knife and you cut open the skin of the chicken around the outside a little bit and you stuff that with pads of butter and then you do your smoke with the pads of butter inside the chicken, the skin gets crispy,
00:42:51.000In the advent of Instagram, we may be evolving as a species to find these type of things more attractive, though.
00:42:57.000Because that's the whole idea with social media is you get a dopamine hit.
00:43:00.000Every time you click on the little blue notification button or you look at a new photo, so maybe we're just going to eventually develop a real appreciation for that type of symmetry.
00:43:26.000All right, so squats and muscle building.
00:43:28.000Did you see that Rhonda Patrick tweeted that study about mice and myonuclei and how when they dope mice, they never actually lose their Yes.
00:43:56.000Well, muscle memory has been, in many cases, just based on motor unit recruitment.
00:44:02.000Meaning, my wife, she ran for University of Idaho.
00:44:06.000And when I go out running with her still, even though she doesn't train, she's just got faster leg turnover.
00:45:00.000I think this was like 2013, like this was a while ago, where they took mice and they gave one group testosterone and the other group didn't get it.
00:45:10.000And then they spent six months off testosterone.
00:45:14.000I don't remember how long they were on it, but they spent six months off it and then they took those mice and they trained them with the training protocol.
00:45:20.000And the mice that were on the testosterone but were no longer on it had a 30% increase in muscle mass compared to the other mice that only had a 5% increase on it.
00:45:30.000So once again, and this was probably related to that myonuclei thing that just came out in this recent study.
00:45:36.000So it turns out that A, you should lift like when you're young because you can build all these myonuclei that just basically hang around your body.
00:45:45.000And then B, when they like ban somebody from sport for doping and then they come back and start to compete in that sport again, they still have an advantage.
00:45:55.000Well, that has huge implications for MMA, because that's the big debate right now.
00:46:00.000How long should someone get suspended for, and for how long afterwards should they be considered enhanced?
00:46:10.000They're giving people some pretty significant suspensions now for steroids, like two years.
00:46:15.000But, you know, there's this John Jones case that I'm sure you're aware of.
00:46:37.000And, essentially, it's a tainted supplement.
00:46:40.000And it's not, it doesn't have any performance-enhancing benefit in terms of, like, the amount of, the dosage that he's tested positive for.
00:46:47.000But it's lingering in his system because the protocols for, um, well, their ability, rather, to detect these metabolites has increased rapidly.
00:46:56.000And over the last year, it's just unbelievably more sensitive.
00:47:00.000To the point where they're detecting these infinitesimally small levels of these metabolites, and there also seems to be some sort of a pulsing effect where your body releases these infinitesimally small metabolites and then doesn't, so you'll test negative, and then next week you'll test positive,
00:47:16.000but only for the long-term metabolite, which is an indication that there's no re-administration of the performance-enhancing drug.
00:47:25.000There's so many athletes that are mad about it, and From what you're saying and from this study that Dr. Rhonda Patrick highlighted, it's, you know, especially for someone who's willingly taken something.
00:47:38.000Yeah, it's one of those, like, once a doper, always a doper type of things.
00:47:44.000See, the Jon Jones situation is very tricky because he's so good and he's so dominant that people just assume that he's been doing something his whole career.
00:47:51.000And when you catch him, they're like, aha, that's the reason why he's so good.
00:47:55.000And it may be, but it also might be he's got phenomenal genetics.
00:47:59.000He has two brothers that are super athletes.
00:48:01.000He was just the best of the guys who were taking drugs.
00:48:04.000That's a different situation because that's a sport where, at least in the time period where he was competing, everyone was doing something.
00:48:52.000Low body fat, super high muscle mass, and they're training jujitsu all the time, too.
00:48:57.000So you would think it would be very hard for them to maintain muscle mass as well as be able to train the way they're training with technique and drills and cardio and all those different things.
00:49:08.000It's very difficult to maintain muscle.
00:49:09.000Any concurrent strength endurance training scenario, very difficult.
00:50:46.000When you combine that with the pain-quelling effect of something like, in most cases, like a THC-CBD combo is what a lot of ultra-runners are using.
00:50:56.000I'm not sure what they'd use in MMA right now.
00:50:59.000But ultimately, you get a good effect, but the loss of reaction time and the loss of the ability to be able to perform complex tasks, which they've proven in flight simulation studies, It dictates that it's still not that great of a drug if you were going to be doing complex tasks.
00:52:08.000So there might have been more going on.
00:52:09.000Sure, but the question is, are they experienced stoners?
00:52:13.000Or are these people that are freaking out, and maybe the reaction time is they're spacing out, and they don't know what the fuck this experience is like, and they might have anxiety because of it.
00:52:22.000There's a lot of really overwhelming sensations that come with that marijuana high, and a lot of them you call paranoia or oversensitivity, and sometimes you get paralysis by analysis when you're under the influence of those things.
00:52:36.000Yeah, it's the acute versus chronic effect.
00:52:39.000But with jiu-jitsu, personally, my personal experience with jiu-jitsu and marijuana is it's an enhancer.
00:52:44.000And I've argued this, that I think it's a performance-enhancing drug.
00:52:47.000With CBD? Do you combine it with CBD? No, just marijuana.
00:52:51.000That's what a lot of endurance athletes are, you know, like folks in the ultra-running community using it now.
00:52:55.000They'll use a trace amount of THC combined with CBD, like a 4-to-1 to a 10-to-1 CBD to THC ratio.
00:53:02.000And I think, you know, now with the Farm Bill and increasing legality, I think this idea of developing...
00:53:07.000Sports performance supplements for athletes who aren't competing in sports where that is banned are going to be steered in the direction of high CBD and then some of these other novel molecules like CBG or CBN. I'm not aware of those.
00:53:48.000You could take like CBG, CBD, combine that with other terpenes from like whatever, let's say lavender and valerian and chamomile and make like a de-stress relaxation type of compound.
00:54:01.000Or you could do like a THC, but a THC-8 instead of a THC-9 and combine that with like cinnamon and peppermint, maybe some caffeine or creatine or something like that to make like more of a pick-me-up type of compound.
00:54:14.000But I think that's the wave of the future when it comes to a lot of these marijuana companies that are developing stuff for specific goals.
00:54:24.000I know a lot of folks that are trying the CBD that use it for inflammation, especially athletes, like it with a little bit of THC. They seem to think it's more effective.
00:54:32.000There's some sort of combined effect of the THC with the CBD. Yeah, they call that the entourage effect, when you have all the different terpenes and the endocannabinoids playing together.
00:55:08.000I wonder if they'll be able to design something that gives you the high without the paranoia or gives you the various effects without spacing out.
00:55:19.000I think that's where supplementation is going in general, right?
00:55:22.000It's just like we were talking about with diet, how based on your genetics, based on your blood work, based on your biomarkers, that's how you would choose your diet.
00:55:30.000I mean, like, you know, like the carnivore diet.
00:55:32.000If you're, let's say, like, sub-Saharan African or Southeast Asian and you have high levels of There are genes for salivary amylase.
00:55:42.000There are genes responsible for you having a higher inflammatory response to saturated fat or a ketogenic diet.
00:55:50.000There's one called the APOE gene, APOE34, which I have.
00:55:55.000It dictates that even though I personally eat a higher-fat, low-carbohydrate diet, the majority of my fats come from Mediterranean fat sources.
00:56:03.000A lot of olive oils, a lot of avocado oil, a lot of fish.
00:56:06.000And I do that because my genetics dictate that my macronutrient ratio, my diet is going to be best suited to that specific ratio of fats.
00:56:19.000But you could say the same thing with supplements.
00:56:21.000I think with supplements now, with all these different places that will self-quantify, like WellnessFX, InsideTracker, and 23andMe, you can take all this data, put it together, and actually determine whatever.
00:56:38.000Everybody's saying we're supposed to take 2,000 international units of vitamin D a day.
00:56:42.000If your vitamin D levels are like 80 or 90, then that could cause arterial calcification if you're taking excess vitamin D. I had both myself and my kids tested for our genetics.
00:56:54.000Like, none of us boys in the Greenfield family actually have the gene that allows us to generate Appreciable amounts of vitamin D from sunlight.
00:57:03.000So we all now supplement with vitamin D and vitamin K. My boys, neither of them possess the enzyme or the, I guess it is an enzyme, superoxide dismutase.
00:57:14.000It's a gene that allows for increased expression of this enzyme that allows for glutathione production.
00:57:45.000I guess kind of like a clean enough to interpret ancestral profile to be able to say, well, here's, you know, I'm mostly Northern European, so this is what I'm going to do well on.
00:57:54.000You combine all that stuff, I think, you know, return to your question about the carnivore diet, that's the way to eat.
00:57:59.000This ApoE4 also leaves you predisposed to CTE, correct?
00:58:22.000Very similar like if you had familial hypercholesternia, you know, and you get on like a ketogenic diet, for example, and your cholesterol goes up to 500. I mean, it's something that just doesn't agree with a lot of people.
00:58:35.000Yeah, that's what's really important to discuss, right?
00:58:38.000Everybody's body really does respond differently to all sorts of different diets.
00:58:42.000It's so difficult for people, especially if they don't have a lot of research in the field, if they haven't read a lot about it, to try to determine what's the best diet for them.
00:58:52.000Yeah, there are specific characteristics, though, that regardless of macronutrient ratios and regardless of food composition, you see over and over again in centenarians or in people who are Living in a blue zone or people who have the absence of a lot of disease risk factors or high risk of mortality.
00:59:14.000Like, we see regular periods of caloric restriction, like at some point, either a compressed feeding window, or intermittent fasting, or like, you know, the Mediterranean diet, everybody talks about goat cheese and olive oil and fish and eggs, but not a lot of people talk about the religious aspect of that.
00:59:30.000That includes certain periods of time where you fast, certain periods of time where you don't eat meat, certain days where you aren't drowning all your food in olive oil, right?
00:59:47.000In terms of other characteristics that you see, glycemic variability, you see very low periods of glucose fluctuations occurring throughout the day because of a high intake of either fiber or legumes is a big one that you see in the blue zones,
01:00:04.000like high intake of things like lentils and split mung beans and a lot of these things that get thrown under the bus now where we're talking about I'm not aware of that.
01:00:20.000What are the issues with lectins and gut?
01:00:32.000Lectins are these built-in natural plant defense mechanisms that are in primarily plants and seeds and the skins of certain fruits and vegetables that will cause your digestive tract to become damaged or give you a deleterious or inflammatory response to that food.
01:00:49.000Kind of a similar argument as the paleo people make, right?
01:00:53.000Don't eat dairy because that could have inflammatory proteins in it that might cause an autoimmune reaction.
01:00:58.000Or don't eat bread because of the gluten and phytic acid.
01:01:03.000But when you step back and you look at a lot of blue zones, a lot of longevity hotspots, a lot of centenarians, you don't see avoidance of these foods.
01:01:17.000When you hunt, you don't set up in a tree with a dagger in your teeth like Peter Pan and jump out of the tree on the back of a deer and just start eating the deer.
01:01:30.000You have to go through a pretty long process of tracking and stalking and hunting and field dressing and quartering.
01:01:36.000And even then, there's a pretty intensive cooking process and we do things like You know, like coffee rubs and things to decrease the amount of carcinogens in the meat when you cook it and we dry age and you'll take the organ meats and soak them in lemon juice or buttermilk to remove the gamey flavor and blah, blah,
01:01:56.000How does it decrease the amount of carcinogens?
01:01:59.000Well, coffee, rosemary, thyme, a lot of these things that we use as rubs, one of the benefits of them is they decrease the formation of a lot of these carcinogenic compounds in the meat, like the burnt, charred components of the meat.
01:02:10.000Anything that's an antioxidant, and you could just go in your spice cupboard and start to make up rubs based on this concept.
01:02:16.000Anything that would be, you know, these sirtuin precursors that people are talking about now for anti-aging, like blueberries and red wine and dark chocolate and dark purple fruits and berries, etc.
01:02:27.000You dry those, you powder those, that's a great rub, right?
01:02:30.000Because all of a sudden you're decreasing the carcinogenic aspects of burnt meat or charred meat or heavily cooked proteins particularly.
01:02:39.000So the idea is you want to prepare your food in a manner that renders it digestible and that unlocks the nutrients.
01:02:49.000And so when we talk about dietary customization, not only do you see calorie restriction, compressed feeding windows, fasting as one element that regardless of the diet that you choose, We're good to go.
01:03:31.000Based on self-experimentation, primarily, until you land on that diet, that works well for you.
01:03:36.000And if you can combine that with self-quantification, blood, biomarkers, look at your microbiome, look at your genetics, I mean, there's no reason that most people shouldn't just be able to eat the diet that works for their body.
01:04:10.000And then you just go to Sean Baker's Instagram every day and you hashtag meat heals and you're like, yes, meat's healing me and you start believing it.
01:04:28.000They're all just preaching that you should only eat meat and meats the thing and they're mocking vegans and the vegans are mocking or saying disparaging things about People who eat meat.
01:05:22.000Like, great guy, and he's into, like, the, you know, fermentation, soaking, and sprouting, and superfoods, and, you know, it's honestly kind of expensive and time-consuming to do a vegan diet the right way, but you could do it.
01:05:34.000But if you're not careful, you build up deficits long-term, even though you feel really good short-term.
01:05:40.000It's the same thing with something like a carnivore diet.
01:05:42.000You're probably going to build up some kind of microbiome bacterial deficiencies unless you're eating the intestines of ruminants or, I suppose, supplementing with some kind of really good probiotic.
01:05:52.000Well, it's just fascinating because they find these people that have been doing it for 20 years.
01:05:56.000They pull these folks out of the woods.
01:05:57.000Like, look, we've got this one guy who's been doing it for 18 years.
01:06:23.000He lost a tremendous amount of weight.
01:06:25.000But to your point, that is most likely because of an elimination diet and whatever was fucking with him before.
01:06:32.000And I think, you know, most people that start off with a poor diet and then switch to a restricted diet, they're just going to be better because they don't have the stuff that's poor.
01:06:44.000It's probably causing a good deal of the information in the first place.
01:06:48.000So by eliminating all those bad things from their diet and then concentrating on the only one thing that they're eating, you think the one thing they're eating is causing all the benefits when it's probably the lack of the bad things.
01:07:45.000And you look at a clip, like there's clips of me online, and the clip is like a minute long, and it seems like, oh, look how easy.
01:07:51.000You don't see stalking in for hours, you don't see the hundreds of hours of shooting arrows, the coaching from John Dudley, all the reading archery articles, and keeping your mindset clear in the moment.
01:08:31.000How many pounds have they been pulling?
01:08:33.000They're about 45 now, which is going to be enough.
01:08:35.000That's enough if you have a cut-on contact problem.
01:08:38.000Yeah, but I mean, they're still, when they draw, they're pointing up and So they've still got a couple more months of training to really get dialed in.
01:09:39.000Because those moments like that when you're hunting for six days and you're just trekking through the woods 20 miles a day and you're exhausted and you finally get that one moment.
01:09:49.000There's so much weight on that moment that it's so difficult to stay focused entirely on the task of executing the shot perfectly.
01:10:21.000His methods, it's all about keeping the difference between an open loop system and a closed loop system, being able to control it and stop it and stop the process anytime you want, and keeping yourself in that versus like a baseball bat swing,
01:10:37.000which is once you start swinging, you're just swinging.
01:10:39.000And the idea is to maintain the present and to have a mantra.
01:10:44.000And he gives you a mantra to chant and to think about it in terms of controlling all of those movements.
01:10:50.000So you are in control constantly of your movement.
01:10:53.000Well, you develop your own, but the idea is to talk yourself through it.
01:10:57.000Don't let your excitable mind take over.
01:11:12.000I go through all the steps in my head that I'm supposed to do.
01:11:16.000I actually modified his and went to John Dudley's.
01:11:22.000So he has his own one, which is draw back and aim, get it done, watch it to keep it.
01:11:29.000And the whole idea is just keeping those things in your head so you have one thing.
01:11:33.000But with Dudley, I go through all the different things that he says, like draw back, tip of the nose, center the peep, center the bubble, pull through the shot, pull, pull, pull, let the shot break.
01:11:47.000And so I go through all those things in my mind.
01:11:49.000But the whole idea is to not allow the freak out.
01:11:52.000Because the freak out is what causes the target panic.
01:11:54.000And when you have that itchy trigger finger with the finger trigger, I've done it.
01:12:35.000Like, they do have part of it as like that, like an obstacle course race with your bow, but then part of it, too, is just a 3D shoot.
01:12:43.000Like a 40-target 3D shoot where one shot might be, I'm facing you, but the target's behind me, and you've got a 10-second time span to draw...
01:13:17.000This thing, this techno hunt that we've done, he doesn't like that.
01:13:21.000He thinks that that thing causes target panic because you only have a brief window and you let go.
01:13:26.000He believes that you should concentrate entirely on the correct fundamentals and execution of archery and then with time and understanding of the situation and the experience of hunting itself, then when those moments present themselves, you're going to execute correctly.
01:17:30.000He really understands, like, so many different preparations and tries to get people to try things like osabuco, you know, to braise the shanks.
01:18:59.000But that seems so strange to me, is the idea to protect the population because they're in the process of breeding and you don't want to interrupt.
01:19:06.000But there's a certain mortality rate that they're accepting with catch and release.
01:19:10.000This is one of the reasons why I have an issue with that.
01:19:12.000And I've done catch and release fishing.
01:19:13.000I don't want to appear like I'm a hypocrite because it is fun.
01:19:16.000But there's a thing about it is you're just shoving a hook in a thing's face and then releasing it.
01:20:15.000A lot of people think spearfishing and they think of the big roller guns that you've got to put the handle against your chest and pull back.
01:20:43.000I'll tie a string around my waist and put a little knife on my belt, and you can just go out there and string four or five fish, and it's an easy day.
01:21:38.000Last one I did, we had a parrotfish down in Hawaii stuffed with avocado and mango, coconut oil, baked it in the oven with macadamia nut, like encrusted macadamia nut.
01:21:48.000Parrotfish are the ones that are eating the coral and shitting out white sand.
01:23:16.000No, there's lactic acidosis, and it inhibits the electron transport chain in the mitochondria, which is fine if you want to down-regulate metabolism and live a long time, but not if you're an athlete.
01:23:28.000You don't want to inhibit mitochondrial respiration necessarily.
01:23:35.000It's derived from French roux in physicians for hundreds of years, been using it, but in limited quantities because it induces nausea.
01:23:42.000So you get gastrointestinal disturbances.
01:23:46.000My take on metformin because I've been looking over the past year into a lot of these anti-aging compounds that people are now using or talking about using like rapamycin and metformin and NAD and a lot of these sirtuin precursors.
01:24:02.000But metformin And rapamycin, actually, for different reasons, because that's an immune system suppressor, are two that I don't think I would ever take.
01:24:12.000Because with metformin, there are a variety of natural compounds that reduce blood glucose and improve insulin sensitivity in the absence of that, like berberine, curcumin, apple cider vinegar, Ceylon cinnamon,
01:25:14.000You want that cortisol release, that glucose hit.
01:25:17.000Maybe you want the flavor and the antioxidants, too.
01:25:19.000I would get a blood glucose response from coffee.
01:25:22.000Another one that surprised me was green beans.
01:25:25.000You talk about legumes, you talk about slow-release carbohydrates, and it falls into that category, but my blood glucose would go up whenever I'd have green beans.
01:25:33.000So I actually got a food allergy test through this company called Cyrex.
01:25:37.000They do a really good food allergy test that doesn't give you this big...
01:25:41.000Laundry list of false positives like the ELISA and the ALCAT test, like the skin prick test.
01:25:47.000You just get a very small number of foods that you're actually allergic to.
01:25:50.000Because a lot of these other tests, they'll show a bunch of antibodies to food, but it's antibodies to food because you're eating that food.
01:25:56.000So many people will be like, dude, I'm allergic to eggs.
01:25:59.000I got a test on allergic to eggs and I'm depressed because that was a big staple in my diet.
01:26:03.000Well, it's only showing that you're allergic to them because they're a staple in your diet.
01:26:22.000And if you get a food panel, you actually can very readily produce, like a food allergy panel, you produce antibodies to the egg protein and they say that you're allergic to the egg protein when in fact you just have a lot of egg proteins in your system because you've been eating a lot of eggs.
01:26:38.000And sometimes they'll even test the white blood cell reaction to a raw egg, not a cooked egg, right?
01:26:44.000And so your white blood cells are going to react more readily to a raw egg versus cooked egg, a raw chicken versus cooked chicken.
01:26:51.000I don't think a lot of these food allergy panels are that accurate for that reason.
01:26:54.000I think they're just giving you a laundry list of foods that you may or may not be allergic to.
01:27:21.000So, that continuous blood glucose monitor was actually able to tell me that I was eating something that my sympathetic nervous system was responding to.
01:27:31.000I was going to fight and flight mode, releasing a bunch of glucose, and I never would have really known that or gotten a clue about that unless I was wearing one of these continuous blood glucose monitors.
01:27:40.000I'm not going to wear it my whole life, but I'm going to wear it.
01:27:42.000My plan is to wear it for a year to just learn a lot about the foods that I usually eat, what they do to my body, what certain workouts do, what certain supplements do.
01:27:53.000But returning to metformin, I started to use a lot of these things like berberine, like curcumin.
01:27:58.000You can do a shot of apple cider vinegar before a meal.
01:28:01.000Take a couple of teaspoons of Ceylon cinnamon in your smoothie.
01:28:04.000And these things actually have an effect on blood glucose that mimics what you're trying to get when you take metformin.
01:28:14.000Well, like I mentioned earlier, it does inhibit mTOR a little bit.
01:28:17.000So you get that mTOR inhibition, but you can inhibit mTOR through calorie restriction fasting done regularly or like a compressed feeding window.
01:28:45.000He does a little bit of a run, a little bit of lifting.
01:28:47.000But you can tell he's not a guy who's really exerting himself rigorously.
01:28:52.000To me, I want the marriage of performance and longevity.
01:28:56.000I don't want to live a long time if I can't kick ass and feel good.
01:28:59.000I don't want to be cold and hungry and libido-less and live till I'm 150. Even if that means I'm going to live till I'm 145 instead of 150 because I've got more muscle mass or whatever.
01:29:11.000So whenever I'm looking at a compound like that, I'm questioning whether or not it's the best way to go if it's going to inhibit my actual performance.
01:30:26.000And I get flack a lot of the time because I'm, you know...
01:30:30.000I'm one of these so-called biohackers.
01:30:33.000I have the laser lights in my office that I shine on my balls and I've got the The lights that go in your ears, and I've got the stem cells and IVs and injections, but I always, always want to make sure people know that you go after the natural stuff first.
01:30:52.000Natural ways to get cold, natural ways to get hot.
01:30:55.000If you're going to buy some expensive pultzed electromagnetic-filled mat, you sure as hell will be perfect.
01:31:01.000Better be going outside barefoot, right?
01:31:03.000Or camping, or sleeping outside, or learning how to earth and ground in a more natural way.
01:31:08.000What is involved in earthing and grounding?
01:31:21.000And then when you take these same frequencies, so the Earth naturally emits somewhere in the range of about 3 to 100 Hz electromagnetic frequencies, like way lower than the million Hz frequencies you're getting when you hold your cell phone up to your ear.
01:31:34.000We're walking around on basically a giant electrical mat.
01:31:37.000Like, there's radiation and electromagnetic frequencies released by Earth.
01:31:41.000And the idea is that these fancy devices now, these mats that you can sleep on or do therapy on, there's...
01:31:47.000Like, I've got one in my basement that just packs a punch.
01:31:50.000Like, he was used in the racehorsing industry for a long time.
01:33:41.000If I've got the option to do that versus get outside in the sunlight, I go out into the sunlight.
01:33:47.000If I've got the option to take berberine and bitter melon extract instead of metformin, I'd rather take the berberine and the bitter melon extract.
01:33:54.000So I think it just strips up down and go as natural as possible.
01:33:58.000And then once you step up to the more advanced anti-aging strategies or biohacking strategies or what have you, you still have to look at those with a skeptical eye.
01:34:07.000And ask yourself whether or not those are really safe or if they have side effects that might, in many cases, limit your physical performance.
01:34:14.000And why do you prefer a standing desk?
01:34:16.000Well, the whole sitting is the new smoking thing I disagree with.
01:34:32.000The problem with sitting is that that is the posture most people are adopting for eight hours per day.
01:34:37.000The best position to be in when you're working would be whatever position you're not in at the moment.
01:34:43.000When you look at weight training, this would not apply to hypertrophy, which would dictate that you want to hit a muscle over and over again using the same angle with increasingly difficult loads.
01:34:54.000But for metabolic Training, you would want to actually throw curveballs at your body.
01:35:00.000The best workout, therefore, would be the one that you're not doing right now if your goal was just to limit any type of metabolic efficiency.
01:35:07.000So the idea with the standing desk is I have that to give me yet another position to be in during the day.
01:35:13.000So I've got a TrueForm treadmill, and I had TrueForm modify it to take the dashboard off.
01:35:18.000So I've got that in front of my standing workstation, and then I've got one of these balance boards that I can stand on, and I've got like a stool that I can lean against.
01:35:27.000So I've got all these different positions that I can be in during the day, and then I've got that Pulse Center's chair in my office that I can go and sit in.
01:35:34.000So every 25 minutes, I'll just shift to a different position.
01:35:37.000And my stand-up desk is a hand-cranked stand-up desk, so I can crank it up and down if I do want to sit at my desk.
01:36:26.000I don't know if you've seen these fluid stance things.
01:36:27.000They're kind of like skateboards that you stand on top of, but they're not...
01:36:31.000They're not as gnarly as a balance board, so you can still focus while you're standing on top of it.
01:36:38.000We've got different stools, different chairs that will go up or down.
01:36:42.000So again, even if you're in a corporate office, it surprises me how many people in their corporate offices don't equip their employees just to be able to move during the day.
01:38:59.000When I use a regular office chair and I sit for long periods of time, I get that center back pain from just poor posture, just sitting in a curved stance or a curved position.
01:39:13.000See, I can't do a lot on the treadmill desk production-wise, but if somebody's interviewing me on Skype on a podcast or I'm doing a consult call with somebody, reviewing blood work or something like that, I'll be walking on my treadmill and then I've got my microphone in front of me and I have this program called Dragon Dictation.
01:39:33.000And Dragon Dictation allows me to talk via a headset, and then it'll type the words on the screen.
01:39:38.000I used to use that a long time ago, but apparently it's moved leaps and bounds.
01:39:43.000Yeah, it's called training your dragon.
01:39:45.000You get this off, it tells you to train your dragon.
01:39:47.000And so you say all these words, you read all these paragraphs, and it learns to identify your phrasing.
01:40:13.000I write when I'm just completely alone and quiet, staring at a computer because I want to spend time on each individual word and really concentrate on what the fuck I'm saying.
01:40:26.000Because most of the time I'm writing stand-up, so I need to bounce it back and forth.
01:40:31.000And to talk it out is not really the right strategy.
01:40:36.000I'm working on a book right now, and what I've found is, for me, I have to have a triggered environment, like a place in my house that when I go to that place, that's the place where your mind says, okay, this is the writing spot.
01:40:50.000For me, it's this chair in the corner of the living room outside of my office.
01:40:55.000As soon as I get into that thing, It's like writing mode.
01:41:05.000I just have an environment to write in.
01:41:07.000Yeah, an environment and a good time, like a specific time to write is good too.
01:41:11.000Like where you know, hey, now it's X time, that's when I write.
01:41:16.000Yeah, that's the idea behind all this new research they're doing on morningness, eveningness, chronotypes, different people being night owls versus morning larks.
01:41:28.000There was a study I was looking at yesterday about the response to an inflammatory stressor.
01:41:38.000I don't remember what the stressor was, but when a morning type is stressed out in the morning, they handle it better than when they're stressed out in the evening.
01:42:15.000You want to wait to eat until it's actual meal time in whatever area of the world that you're traveling to.
01:42:20.000If you arrive in New York City from California at 3pm, you don't want to eat a bite of food until 7pm when it's actual dinner because that helps to regulate your circadian rhythm.
01:44:16.000I'm not going to lay in bed for three hours waiting until the time when I actually do want to get up.
01:44:20.000What I do is I wake up, I get out of bed, and I put on those blue light blocking glasses, the ones that you're supposed to wear at night, like the yellowish-orange lenses.
01:44:51.000Then I'll go down to my office and I'll put on the eye thing, the ear thing, the head thing, the light in front of me, the light behind me.
01:46:02.000If I finish eating at 8 p.m., I don't eat again until 8 a.m.
01:46:05.000If I finish eating at midnight, then I don't eat again until, you know, if I get up at midnight for a snack, I won't eat again until lunch, at least 12 p.m.
01:46:14.000And then what I started doing, once Walter Longo came out with his research on the longevity diet and this whole idea of a fasting-mimicking diet, inducing cellular autophagy and enhancing longevity to the same extent as if you were just do like a pure water fast or stop eating.
01:46:29.000So what you do is on a quarterly basis, four times a year, you restrict the normal amount of calories that you would eat to 40% of what you'd normally eat.
01:46:38.000So maybe you're just dropping one meal, or for every meal that you eat, you're eating a little bit less.
01:46:44.000And you do this for five days on a quarterly basis.
01:46:48.000I started doing that last year, and I just have like this stew that I make with split mung beans and basmati rice, and it's called khichri.
01:46:56.000It's an Indian Ayurvedic cleansing stew.
01:46:59.000Dr. Longo's company, El Nutra, sends out these kits called Prolon kits that are all done for you, but I just wanted to make my own stew.
01:47:28.000And with those three things, 12 to 16-hour intermittent fast, the quarterly five-day modified fast, and then the 24-hour fast one to two times a month, that's sustainable for me.
01:48:06.000This returns to not wanting to be hungry and cold and libido-less if you're going to live a long time.
01:48:10.000So the idea is that you could fast from Saturday dinner to Sunday dinner and have a giant ribeye steak, sweet potato, fry, red wine, dark chocolate.
01:48:21.000Halo top ice cream, whatever you want.
01:48:25.000At the end of the day on Sunday, eat 3,500 calories and then you're topped off and you're ready for the next day and you have a long period in which you're engaged in cellular cleanup, cellular autophagy, but you kind of get to have your cake and eat it too because you have a bunch of calories at the end of that.
01:48:43.000I was actually surprised you didn't ask me when I brought in the sourdough bread and the coconut macaroons and everything if they would take you out of ketosis or break your fast.
01:48:55.000No, but people want to know if the butter in your coffee, you know, putting 800 calories of butter in your coffee is going to break your fast.
01:49:03.000Basically, the idea is if it has calories, it breaks your fast.
01:49:06.000If it doesn't have calories, it doesn't break your fast.
01:49:48.000Seems like a place for a guy that makes mushroom coffee.
01:49:50.000Yeah, they do a good job with their mushrooms.
01:49:52.000So yeah, anything that has calories is going to take you out of fast.
01:49:55.000But I'll drink black coffee, green tea.
01:49:58.000Both of those enhance your fatty acid burning, so it's actually enhancing the benefits of a fast.
01:50:04.000Occasionally, if I'm going to do a pretty epic workout, the two things that I'll use in combo are ketone esters with essential amino acids.
01:50:13.000You combine those with a very low number of calories, but that's like rocket fuel.
01:50:19.000Because you get the anabolism, about 10 grams of essential amino acids, and then the ketones.
01:50:22.000What I've been doing is a shot glass of this stuff called, it's Ketone Aid, and then there's another company called HVMN that does like a, they all taste like ass, but you combine those with like a little bit of amino acid, so you have high ketones,
01:50:39.000high amino acids, but neither of those are insulinogenic, so it still keeps you in a relatively fasted state if you want to go to a hard workout or maintain muscle.
01:51:18.000Just take a very small amount of psilocybin, about 0.2 grams of psilocybin, and you take two packets of that Lion's Mane, the Four Sigmatic Lion's Mane extract, and then anything that increases blood flow.
01:51:32.000So it could be like beetroot, any nitric oxide precursors.
01:51:42.000But you combine anything that increases blood flow, a couple of packets of the lion's mane, and then about 0.2 grams of psilocybin, and the cognitive pick-me-up you get from that is profound.
01:51:54.000I mean, you know that psilocybin increases your sensory perception, your ability to pick out color, smell, sense temperature, etc.
01:52:01.000But just for getting through a day of work, or even like going on a long hike, or I would not be surprised if our ancestors used psilocybin for hunting because you actually do get a pretty good increase in sensory perception, smell, and sight from it.
01:52:28.000Well, it's like that, we were talking about this last time, that doctrine of signatures, the idea that what things look like in nature could actually give you clues about their benefit for the body.
01:52:38.000And when you find lion's mane, I don't know if you've seen it in nature, but it looks like this cluster of axons and dendrites.
01:53:28.000I have yet to actually find it in nature, but apparently you can find it up in the inland northwest where I live.
01:53:34.000Anyways, though, comfrey, they call it knit bone, and the roots look like knuckles and joints and human bones, and it's very good for healing up fractures or for making, like, a plaster for your joints.
01:53:50.000Well, what that pharmacy in Kauai does is they grind it into a powder, and then you reconstitute that with water, and you smear it, like, over a shoulder joint, and you could just use, like, a T-shirt or whatever to hold it on there or an ace bandage, And it actually increases the speed of bone healing or joint healing,
01:54:15.000There's all sorts of different things in nature that give you clues, like the carrots and the eggs for your eyes, the walnuts for the brain.
01:54:58.000So you put your CBD oil on, or your magnesium, or your Arnica, your Tramil, whatever it is that you're using, and you rub that in, then you put the electrodes on top of that.
01:55:10.000And then you put an ice pack on top of that.
01:55:15.000You've got the cream or lotion, you've got the electrodes, and then you've got the topical thing that holds it on, and the electricity drives the anti-inflammatory deeper into the tissue.
01:55:28.000So it enhances the effect of a CBD oil or a magnesium, and the ice allows you to turn up the electricity to a higher level without getting uncomfortable.
01:55:38.000I use one called a Mark Pro and just kind of surround the area that's actually torn or that's painful, and I'll do a rub like that.
01:55:47.000But you're right, CBD oil works amazingly for that.
01:55:50.000Yeah, that stuff is, it's remarkable because it's, you're putting it on the surface of your skin and it's weird how it can get all the way deep into a muscle or into a joint.
01:56:54.000It's called Estrogeneration, about how many guys have really high estrogen levels now from primarily their personal care products or their household cleaning chemicals.
01:57:14.000Like when I raced for Team Timex, we used to train out at the Giant Stadium in New Jersey, and I go in the locker room there, and it's just like this.
01:57:23.000You'd think that the peak of performance in professional sports would have started looking into, by this point, how could you keep testosterone as high as possible on a male athlete's body?
01:57:35.000But you walk into the bathroom and it's just like every endocrine disruptor known to man just like lined up in a pretty shiny row there on the shelf in front of them.
01:57:44.000You know, the shaving cream and the shampoos and the spray deodorant.
01:57:48.000Shaving cream as an endocrine disruptor?
01:58:57.000Like, there's some of the stuff on stem cells that admittedly are a little bit of, like, a venture into human experimentation without robust evidence of safety.
01:59:05.000How about the one where you shot it into your dick?
01:59:25.000Or, you know, in some cases you could argue that placental or umbilical or amniotic cells are so young and so pluripotent, you know, and if they don't have the DNA in the nucleus, which apparently they can kill off somehow,
01:59:41.000which is how they make exosomes, you're not getting somebody else's DNA. You know, it's just something your body would have made anyways and recognized as self.
01:59:51.000So, yeah, sometimes, though, I probably have taken it too far with a few of those things.
01:59:58.000But the CBD that you were talking about, I'm a huge fan of.
02:00:58.000So, CBD... Can enhance your deep sleep cycles, which is when a good majority of your neuronal repair and recovery occurs.
02:01:09.000THC allows you to sleep, and it actually decreases sleep latency, how long it takes you to fall asleep, but it does reduce the amount of time you spend in deep sleep.
02:01:19.000So if you're one of those people whose mind races, who's hypercharged up and you've got to get to sleep at night, use THC. Hit a vape pen or whatever, but know that you might miss out on some of the things you want during deep sleep.
02:01:35.000Memory consolidation, neuronal repair and recovery.
02:01:39.000You know, nervous system repair, but it's still pretty decent sleep and you're not getting as much of a reduction in deep sleep as you would get if you were to be taking like Ambien or Valium or something that's literally just like a sledgehammer for your frontal cortex that knocks you out,
02:01:58.000So if you do this, if you were to get like a sleep tracker and test your deep sleep levels, you would find that with CBD, you don't fall asleep as fast, but you get higher deep sleep levels.
02:02:08.000And then with THC, you can fall asleep faster, but your deep sleep isn't quite as high.
02:02:14.000When you consider that CBD can counteract a lot of the effects of THC, then that means that what you could try is take THC to allow you to fall asleep faster, but then pile a whole bunch of CBD on top of that.
02:02:26.000I've done that before, too, where you just take a hit on a vape pen, then take a bunch of CBD, and you shoot for the best of both worlds.
02:02:31.000Yeah, folks that are taking Ambient, I mean, especially people that are doing it virtually every night, that has got to have a profound effect on your brain's ability to recover.
02:02:42.000I think there are a lot of people shorting themselves on life who are taking Ambien or Valium.
02:02:47.000I mean, I think to start with sleep, you need to rely on your body's own internal chemistry.
02:02:55.000Like I think everybody, before they start taking whatever, phosphatidylserine and adaptogenic herbs and all this shit for cortisol, and before they start taking Valium or Ambien or anything else for sleep, you should learn how to control your physiology with your breath.
02:03:10.000I think that's the most powerful way to do it.
02:03:13.000Prana, your chakra, whatever you want to call it.
02:03:15.000Being able to do things like breath work, box breathing, alternate nostril breathing, even holotropic breathing.
02:03:23.000You can go some very interesting places in terms of DMT production by the pineal gland by just doing holotropic breath work.
02:03:30.000There's a lot of very interesting things that you can do with your breath, but I think that for getting to sleep or for decreasing stress, you start with the breath.
02:03:40.000And then you start to introduce some of these other molecules.
02:03:42.000But Ambien and Valium, like in the era of readily available CBD and all the other sleep compounds that we have available, like valerian and passionflower and chamomile, and all of those are what are called gamma-aminobutyric acid or GABA precursors.
02:03:56.000They produce inhibitory neurotransmitters.
02:03:59.000I don't understand why people are still taking Ambien and Valium.
02:04:21.000Otherwise, they're fucking ruining the world.
02:04:24.000I've found that if my brain is racing, just completely concentrating on breathing in and breathing out and concentrating on just the breath itself, like really being cognizant of it and slow breathing Deliberate breaths in and out and in and out.
02:04:38.000By doing that over long periods of time, I've found that I can pretty much conk myself out.
02:05:06.000You know, all these ads and all these doctors and different people, well, if you have a hard time sleeping, I'll just write your prescription.
02:05:18.000They'll use clay for parasites and, you know, dogs will eat grass for stomach issues.
02:05:23.000And, you know, I guess birds now are putting, like, We're good to go.
02:05:42.000So it's not like supplementation or self-medication or the whole creation of pharmaceuticals is something that's unnatural or not an acceptable human activity.
02:05:50.000But once you start to use it as a crutch, I think that's where you run into issues.
02:05:55.000Like once you deny the human body's ability to be able to heal itself or to be able to decrease stress on its own, you begin to rely on these exogenous chemicals, I think that's where you start playing with fire.
02:06:07.000I just wonder what's happening to people's minds over long-term use of this stuff where you're not going into these deep sleep cycles and you're using it every night because essentially once you get hooked on it, a lot of people have a really hard time sleeping without it.
02:06:56.000Or you're constantly waking because you're on your back and you have, you know, a lot of people have sleep apnea where you'll look at their sleep charts and they'll frequently wake during the night or you'll see periods where they just get ripped out of deep sleep.
02:07:07.000Yeah, you wake up and you don't have memory consolidation or you don't have the type of neuronal repair and recovery that you'd want or, you know, you can even short yourself on muscle repair.
02:07:18.000And there's probably a lot that we don't know about just dreaming and its ability to be able to do things like help form memories or make learning or experiences more deeply rooted.
02:07:31.000But yeah, I think sleep architecture is something that just gets super fucked up in a modern post-industrial era.
02:07:39.000We've got access to pharmaceuticals that just take a sledgehammer to our heads.
02:07:56.000There's some cognitive balancing that's going on while you're sleeping, where your mind is actually going over whatever issues you might have and trying to come up with a problem during sleep time, during your subconscious.
02:08:09.000You don't want to know how many times now, and I'm learning this as I get older.
02:08:14.000That you delay a decision, or you delay replying to an email, or delay responding to a text message, or what have you, until you've gotten a full night of sleep on it.
02:08:23.000And the clarity that you get after that, I mean, you just, basically, you think about it a little bit before you fall asleep, then you go to sleep, and you wake up with such a better answer.
02:08:34.000We know you make more nerve growth factor and more brain-derived neurotrophic factor when you walk while you're learning.
02:08:41.000I recently gave a TEDx talk I made the whole TEDx talk and I learned the whole thing while I was walking up on the farm road back behind my house.
02:08:50.000I just walk up through the forest, pop out in the sunshine, walk up and down that road, and just listen to my TED talk on my earbuds and give my talk.
02:09:03.000Dwelling on something before you go to sleep, it does the trick.
02:09:06.000If I do that, I always have a response the next day that's kinder, less emotional, more understanding, friendlier, reciprocating, any sort of good vibes.
02:09:56.000I've just always been resistant to the Harry Potter phase.
02:10:00.000I've never read the books, never watched the movies, but my kids really wanted to go, so I took them.
02:10:06.000And when I walked through there and saw all the research, the deep research that J.K. Rowling did on alchemy and herbology and the history of magic and wizardry, and she actually took a deep dive into all this stuff.
02:10:25.000She pre-planned out all seven of those books before she even wrote the first one.
02:10:30.000And all of her original manuscripts were in there and her letters back and forth to the editor and to the publisher.
02:10:36.000I walked out the other end of that exhibit.
02:10:39.000It took us about two hours to get through, you know, just looking at everything, thumbing through everything.
02:10:43.000And I was just like a diehard Harry Potter fan.
02:10:48.000It was one of those things that was at the New York Historical Society.
02:10:53.000But, you know, a lot of these, they'll do an exhibit and it'll kind of go in and out during the year.
02:10:56.000So I doubt it's still going right now because this was like three months ago.
02:11:00.000And we walked out, and my kids are like, Dad, this is the Gryffindor wand, and this is the Dumbledore's wand, and the Gryffindor sweater, and the Slytherin sweater, and I just started buying them all the sweaters and the wands, and now I'm reading the book.
02:11:15.000So I'm halfway through Goblet of Fire right now, and I'm actually digging it.
02:12:20.000I don't have the recipe, but it tastes amazing.
02:12:22.000I'm usually not much of a sneak snacks into bed kind of guy, but I was taking marshmallows to bed, eating marshmallows and reading Harry Potter.
02:12:30.000How much sugar is in the marshmallows?
02:15:13.000Pistachios are great for your microbiome, too.
02:15:16.000I actually had a couple of research studies on that last year that showed an improvement in the diversity of the bacteria in your gut with pistachios.
02:15:24.000That's one of the nuts that's good for your body, probably because of the fiber content in pistachios.
02:15:29.000First, grain-fed is primarily the omega-3 fatty acids.
02:15:33.000Many have less of the arachidonic acid, less of the potentially inflammatory omega-6 fatty acids.
02:15:38.000There's probably part of it being that grass-fed, grass-finished beef is generally raised on a farm that's using less herbicides, less pesticides, raising their meat in a more sustainable fashion, giving it less hormones, giving it less antibiotics.
02:15:51.000That's painting with a broad brush, but generally grass-fed, there's more to it than just the fatty acid composition.
02:17:30.000My buddy, David Boulay, he's a chef over there.
02:17:33.000And he has this wonderful restaurant where he brings doctors and nutritionists in, and they teach you about certain aspects of the food that you're eating.
02:17:42.000I taught about having bitters before your meal to reduce your glucose and your insulin response to the meal and the use of sweet breads for your thymus gland to increase the activity of your immune system to a lot of these polyphenols and antioxidants from the purples and the greens and the blues.
02:18:03.000There are these things called uncoupling proteins that actually get activated with cryotherapy and cold water immersion But that also are something that get activated with the consumption of...
02:18:17.000It's like a sea urchin foam that they did at this dinner.
02:18:21.000But basically what he does is he'll partner with the physician or the nutritionist or whatever and make this amazing four-hour, five-star meal that's designed to enhance the health effects or whatever it is that you just learned about.
02:19:05.000I was with a group of doctors a couple of months ago in Park City and this guy, one of the guys that was there, he's like a water and a salt expert.
02:19:11.000And he did what's called a mass spectrometry analysis of all these popular salts, like Himalayan sea salt, and black Kona salt, and Aztec salt, and Mexican salt, all these different salts, and analyzed them for their mineral content,
02:19:27.000because you want high mineral content, but their metal content.
02:19:30.000We know that iron, especially in guys now, we're finding out it's not that great.
02:20:19.000I always travel with some kind of salt.
02:20:21.000My wife gets pissed because she'll make these amazing meals, and the first thing I do is I just pull out the salt and just cover everything in salt.
02:20:27.000But I think it's because I excrete a lot of salt.
02:20:31.000When I raced for Timex, they brought in a bunch of physiologists to test our sweat sodium analysis, meaning that they measure how much sodium you excrete for any given volume of sweat.
02:20:46.000And this kind of returns to that whole genetic thing.
02:20:48.000Like, when you look at people of a northern European ancestry who would have come from a population that did a lot of fermenting, a lot of curing, a lot of pickling, we would develop some pretty robust sodium excretion mechanisms, right?
02:21:03.000Because we're preserving our food with salt.
02:21:06.000You don't want all that salt to build up in the body because, you know, theoretically you could increase blood pressure.
02:21:11.000You could cause some damage if you have too much salt.
02:21:13.000And when you look at other folks who didn't, you know, people who would, for example, sweat a lot and live in a hot environment, you know, like whatever, South Africa or a very hot region of the Philippines or whatever, they would have some pretty robust salt conservation mechanisms to be able to hold on to sodium and hold on to salt because you're sweating more.
02:21:33.000Well, my sweat-sodium analysis revealed that I lose like two and a half times more salt in my sweat than the average person.
02:21:41.000So I think that dictates to a certain extent almost my craving for salt.
02:21:46.000When I was racing Ironman triathlon, I would lay awake at night and I could feel my blood flowing.
02:21:51.000Pounding in my ears after a day of training.
02:21:56.000And one of the first things that happens, because salt regulates aldosterone, which is one of the compounds that regulates your blood pressure, all that went away.
02:22:05.000Like I could fall asleep at night, you know, when you lay your head down on your pillow and I couldn't hear the blood pounding in my ears.
02:22:11.000So for about four years, I've just, I've been salt on everything.