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00:02:37.000Were you already cleaning your diet up because of your injuries or because you were trying to keep your body tuned for drumming or you just wanted to clean it up, period?
00:02:48.000No, I was vegetarian since I was 13. Really?
00:04:04.000No, I think he was just reaching out to friends and family because he was Oprah's chef and he was Ellen DeGeneres' chef and he was all these like...
00:04:13.000You know, really high-profile people's vegan chef when they would, you know, do a vegan diet for however long.
00:04:19.000Some forever, some just like a two-week thing.
00:04:22.000But I think he just got to the point where he wanted to do something for himself.
00:06:02.000Because it's got to be incredibly difficult to be a vegan chef.
00:06:05.000I would imagine being a regular chef is difficult, but when you put all those restrictions, you have to make things taste interesting and different.
00:06:14.000Yeah, I think that's where Chef Scott comes in because he actually comes from a meat background.
00:06:19.000So he was working at Italian restaurants and Italian Mediterranean restaurants that cooked everything.
00:06:24.000So it was infusing this vegan, obviously, lifestyle of eating with Chef Scott's taste as well.
00:06:33.000So I think he had to think that out to where it would appeal and meat eaters would eat there too and not really notice a difference.
00:06:40.000Because I agree, you know, sometimes I'll be on tour and you go to a vegan spot and I'll take my bus driver in or whoever's traveling with me and they're like, oh man, this is real.
00:07:29.000If he has a lot to say, he'll write it down, but other than that, you just read the lips, and I know what he's saying, but he shows up to...
00:07:37.000Yeah, and he takes a lot of photos, so he'll show up to, like, punk or rap, whatever show I'm playing, he's in the pit with his camera, this silent guy who doesn't say a word.
00:09:33.000It's called March of Silence that happens once a year where you have a bunch of them that basically, you know, and they're basically marching for the March of Silence for like the cruelty of animals and whatever else.
00:09:45.000I'd like to have him on the podcast and see how long I can talk to him for.
00:11:04.000Anything, I think we'd catch ourselves it being very hard.
00:11:08.000I was going to get my tonsils and adenoids removed because I have sleep apnea because I have a fat neck, but I found a mouthpiece that I can sleep with that keeps my tongue from falling over.
00:11:22.000When your neck is thick, your wind hole is smaller, believe it or not, because the more muscle you put in, the smaller your hole gets.
00:11:31.000And then if you have a big tongue, when you lay back, you can actually block your airway.
00:11:36.000Yeah, and so friends that I know have had their adenoids and their tonsils removed, and they actually take some of the soft tissue out of your passageway so you can breathe easier.
00:11:46.000But the problem is you can't talk for like seven days.
00:11:50.000Yeah, that would probably be rough for you.
00:12:30.000And I was recording an album with the transplants and I turned to Skinhead Rob and I was like, yo, I think I have something like, something's lodged in my throat.
00:12:39.000Like I could barely breathe right now.
00:12:57.000And then it comes to find out I had what's called like Barrett's esophagus, which is like pre-cancer lining my esophagus from smoking and I don't know, I guess just abuse over the years.
00:13:08.000So that's what led to my tonsils being pulled out.
00:13:13.000When you think about this, you probably shouldn't smoke too many of these because it's just plain tobacco.
00:13:32.000I smoked a lot of cigarettes, and then I quit smoking cigarettes, just smoked weed, and then I discovered backwoods, and I was kind of getting a little bit of both.
00:13:39.000I was still getting the tobacco that I missed, but yeah.
00:13:44.000Yeah, my friend Ari said that he started smoking spliffs in England, you know, and when he was over in the UK, they mixed the weed with the tobacco, and he got totally hooked on tobacco again.
00:13:55.000Because he had quit cigarettes for years, and then he started smoking the weed mixed with the tobacco, and before he knew it, he was smoking cigarettes again.
00:14:02.000So he smoked while he was over there, and then he quit as soon as he was done, and then came back to the US. Yeah, I feel like they just started smoking just pure weed over there.
00:15:28.000And it says right there, like, you're basically like, they'll kill you if they find, you know, you brought any drugs into Iraq or, you know, where we were, Balrain.
00:15:37.000So I did away with everything and I just kind of took up drinking on that trip.
00:16:54.000Because I feel like what I take, if I take what the proper dosage is, it doesn't do much, but...
00:17:00.000I'm one of those people whose mind's racing constantly.
00:17:02.000I'll get home from the studio at 1 or 2, and I'm just kind of figuring out how long I've got to sleep before I get to wake up my kids and go to school.
00:17:11.000And I just sit there with my wheels spinning, unless I use CBD. And then that kind of helps.
00:17:17.000And then I have what's called trigeminal neuralgia.
00:18:05.000It's a chronic pain condition that affects the trigeminal nerve, which carries a sensation from your face to your brain.
00:18:11.000If you have trigeminal neurology, even mild stimulation of your face, such as from brushing your teeth or putting on makeup, may trigger a jolt of excruciating pain.
00:19:05.000They say that a lot of nerve diseases are inflammation caused.
00:19:09.000So sometimes if you change your diet, you can smooth some of those out, like lower the sugar intake and some of the other things that might be causing inflammation.
00:19:17.000Did they give you any advice like that?
00:19:19.000No, but around the same time, I figured out I was allergic to gluten, which I really thought was whatever.
00:19:25.000I was like, yeah, right, okay, yeah, we need to be gluten-free.
00:19:28.000Then I tried it, and the doctor I had seen said, well, you really got to try it, though.
00:20:21.000And we subsequently looked it up after he told me this.
00:20:24.000In the early turn of the century, when they were growing wheat, they experimented and changed the wheat to make it more dense so that you could get more yield out of an acre.
00:20:36.000And so by doing that, they changed how your body processes it.
00:20:41.000And there's more complex glutens in like a stalk of wheat.
00:20:44.000Like an old-timey wheat, like you would get in Italy or France or something like that.
00:20:50.000It's a much more scrawny looking plant.
00:20:52.000And so if they had an acre of that, you don't get nearly as much wheat.
00:20:56.000And so in America, we said, oh, bigger's better.
00:20:58.000And we made it bigger and better and thicker.
00:21:01.000And your body has a much harder time processing it.
00:21:03.000And that's why people get so much inflammation and leaky gut and all these different ailments that people get from bread and pasta in this country.
00:21:11.000It's because of this much more complex wheat.
00:23:38.000Standard American diet is just fucked up.
00:23:40.000But I've always wanted to ask you that about, like, the drumming.
00:23:43.000Because, I mean, everything that I do, like everything repetitive, whether it's boxing or even archery, a lot of people get injuries in archery just from repetitive stress, from just pulling the bow back over and over again.
00:24:20.000Boxing has helped so much and I don't box because I think I'm a tough guy or I think I can you know beat people's asses or whatever it's really just for functionality like so I can play the drums the way I want to.
00:24:32.000So you started doing it for that reason?
00:24:34.000Well no I started when I knew my son was being born like when my girlfriend at the time was pregnant I woke up that morning, I ran to the freeway and back, like twice, and then I went and found a boxing gym.
00:24:57.000Yeah, no, 2003. And then I started boxing.
00:25:00.000I just walked into 10 Goose and I started jump roping and hitting pads and I don't know, I just had this urge to want to like box and be better.
00:25:34.000It's an amazing thing that happens to you when you become a father.
00:25:38.000It's a weird switch that goes off in your brain that you can't really describe to people that don't have kids.
00:25:43.000Yeah, and it's even weirder when the switch doesn't go off.
00:25:47.000So, like, you know, you see people who are horrible fathers or horrible parents, and I just don't get, like, how didn't that switch turn on for you?
00:29:16.000But say if you could lift something ten times, lift it five times and just do more sets and give yourself a lot of time in between sets.
00:29:23.000Because if you're training for strength...
00:29:26.000You can do certain things, like kettlebells in specific, where it's strength, but it's also endurance.
00:29:31.000But really, if you just want to do strength, the best way to do it is to do a short set of a few repetitions and then do multiple versions of that.
00:29:42.000Like take a long time off, like five, ten minutes, and then do another five reps, five, ten minutes, do another five reps, and then do it again in a couple of days.
00:30:23.000So whatever, even if it's quick and you're not doing everything exactly technique-wise, really slow, it's kind of like making sure you stay up with the tempo, which I feel like really helped me with staying quick and fast with drums and more endurance, you know?
00:30:54.000You don't look 43. Yeah, Max Weinberg told me one time, he watched me play, and he was at a show where Blink played, and he's like, I don't know how much longer you can play like that.
00:32:32.000But the goal is to train so much before you even get on tour that you're not even having to think about that.
00:32:38.000You're just playing the show exactly how you want to play.
00:32:41.000I imagine it's like that with fighting where you envision what you want to do in your head and you're in the shape and you know the technique to execute.
00:32:50.000You don't have to think about it or go like, oh, I can't do that.
00:33:49.000Same thing happens if you practice too much as a band and then you go try to play those songs and act like you're having fun, that same thing happens.
00:33:56.000So I try to practice a lot on my own and I'm not even practicing those songs, just kind of...
00:34:04.000Sam Kinison used to have a joke about the Beach Boys, about they're going out there playing I Wish They Could All Be California Girls again.
00:36:04.000And we have an EP coming out that's called Live Fast, Die Whenever.
00:36:09.000And we just finished over the weekend, or yesterday.
00:36:14.000So you go in there at noon and you leave there at 4 in the morning every day until you're finished, because they're only in town for a little while.
00:37:19.000And I had people around me when I was young, when I was first learning how to read music, that just kept embedding in my head, like, you gotta listen to everything.
00:38:21.000I did a Hans Zimmer thing the other week, and then the next day I'm in with a band called Nothing Nowhere doing something completely different.
00:38:27.000This week I'm doing a Lil Peep and XXX remix.
00:38:41.000Like you get a phone call or someone texts you, hey Travis, we need you to come in here and light this motherfucker on fire and you get in there and...
00:38:50.000Or like, you know, some projects manifested too, like there's this band called The Fever 333 that I produce and write with and they just got nominated for a Grammy, like threw up for a Grammy for Best Rock Performance.
00:39:04.000And that was something I just envisioned with the singer of that band, Jason.
00:39:07.000And we started literally a year ago, and they're nominated for a Grammy.
00:39:13.000So, like, stuff like that, like, kind of being in architecture without building buildings, you know, being in architecture and music, or whatever it is, whatever it is you're passionate about, that excites me.
00:41:37.000But that was a big accomplishment, just being able to play in that genre of music, because I listened to it as a kid, but there's never really been a home for a live drummer in a rap scenario.
00:42:22.000Yeah, and I had no idea why he wanted me, you know, but I was just like, wow, this is so cool because I grew up on Big E, like, I loved all that genre of music, but I was okay with just staying in my lane as well.
00:42:34.000But when I got accepted with, like, Open Arms and I was invited to do, like, BET Awards with TI or Tyga or Wayne, it was just insane, you know, playing the Grammys.
00:42:45.000The funny thing is I've never played the Grammys with Blink, but I've played the Grammys with...
00:45:20.000And he just came up with this very unorthodox way of moving.
00:45:24.000He's a real encyclopedia of information when you start talking to him about fighting.
00:45:28.000I really enjoy doing commentary with him because he's so insightful.
00:45:32.000He's so good at pointing out little areas where he thinks people are making mistakes or how to capitalize on certain things that people are doing.
00:45:40.000Yeah, I've watched fights with him before, and he gives a different insight than what I'm seeing.
00:45:46.000No, he's great, especially when it comes to wrestling, clinch work, and even weird striking techniques.
00:45:54.000He's so good at befuddling people that he fights with, with movement and information.
00:46:00.000He's giving them looks, and they're trying to set up.
00:46:04.000You know, and they're standing there trying to set up, and they don't know what the fuck he's doing, and they have to reset.
00:46:08.000And they're trying again, and then he's giving them a different look, and he's standing over here, and then he's in front of you with his hands down, and then he's not.
00:49:31.000So I was high as a kite and I was in Australia and I was running to the bus and I had like two huge bags that were like probably like I probably had 40 pounds on my back and I was just trying to get to the bus to get to the next show or whatever and it was the the stupidest thing ever but it was a little like you know the little cracks in the sidewalk where it's up higher and I didn't see and I fell with all that weight on me and I'm in the bus And I'm starting to think,
00:51:31.000Well, after my accident as well, I was fed, you know, four months in a hospital, being fed morphine every day for four months, and then being on all these bipolar meds and everything else.
00:51:43.000I honestly didn't want to put anything in my body when I got out.
00:51:46.000I didn't even take painkillers when I got home.
00:51:49.000Now, what kind of bipolar meds they put you on?
00:52:48.000So they wanted to put you on because of the plane crash?
00:52:51.000Yeah, they're like, don't shame yourself by giving yourself a hard time that you have to take these pills.
00:52:57.000And I said, well, honestly, I don't feel like they're doing what they're supposed to for me, and they're actually having a negative effect on me, so I really don't want to take them.
00:53:05.000They also told me I'd never run again, I'd never do this, I'd never do that again.
00:53:09.000So I think I just got to the point where I was like...
00:53:12.000Let me see how many things I can prove otherwise that they've told me, you know, once I stop taking the pills.
00:53:18.000Jesus, so they put you on bipolar medication because of a traumatic crash.
00:53:42.000I kept thinking like everyone was in the hospital, including the two pilots, including my two best friends and A.M. I thought everyone was just in different rooms, until about two weeks before I left.
00:54:17.000It was never cool, but I started to feel better.
00:54:22.000But yeah, I think it was because I was so crazy at the time.
00:54:26.000It's interesting that I would think that bipolar medication would be something that you would give someone who has a condition that just is sort of predisposed to it.
00:54:40.000I don't know anything about bipolar, but...
00:54:42.000I would think that that's something that you just have, you know?
00:54:45.000It's like you have a mental condition.
00:54:47.000I wouldn't think that it would be something that they would give you to overcome a traumatic incident.
00:54:52.000Yeah, I think they were afraid I was gonna be...
00:54:55.000I had like a mental condition after everything happened, you know?
00:54:58.000Do you think they think like maybe because you're an artist that you're probably a little crazy anyway?
00:55:06.000I had smoked so much weed every day, and I'd taken so many pills, and I would self-medicate quite a bit, that I woke up, probably out of 11 of my 30 surgeries I had in the burn center, I woke up swinging on doctors.
00:55:22.000Because I would wake up, and I'd be opened up, and I would just go crazy.
00:58:30.000Where like, I think I've fucked up and I'm smoking weed again.
00:58:33.000And then I wake up and I'm like, oh my God, how am I going to stop?
00:58:36.000Because I love, I love smoking so much, you know, or whatever your vice was, you know, if it was like, whatever it was, you know, yeah, you're just like, you wake up and you think you're doing it again.
00:58:45.000And then you realize, nah, I'm all good.
00:58:48.000I used to have dreams like that where I had to go back to high school.
00:59:29.000But when I was in high school, I fucking hated it and I barely got by.
00:59:33.000And then when I got out of high school, I would have these dreams where I would wake up in the middle of the night and I didn't have enough credits to graduate and have to go back.
00:59:41.000And then I was sitting there in my bed before I woke up trying to decide whether or not I was just going to fucking drop out.
00:59:49.000And not graduate from high school, not have a high school diploma, or go back and do another fucking year of hell.
00:59:57.000And my guts would turn, then I'd wake up and be like, oh my god, I graduated.
01:01:24.000It'd be better if they just said, well, you know, like, I don't know if they motivated you to actually do what you're passionate about, you know, instead of just being, well, that's not going to happen, so what do you want to do?
01:02:16.000I don't think people get by that well.
01:02:19.000When I was just starting to do stand-up, there was a lot of guys who had full-time jobs and they got degrees and they would work their full-time job and then they would just do stand-up a couple nights a week.
01:02:58.000Yeah, if you figure it out and keep improving and keep learning and learn from your mistakes and learn from your setbacks and keep trying to push and get better and improve.
01:03:08.000If you do all those things, as hopeless and helpless as it seems, if you continue to improve, you've got to get to a better place.
01:03:16.000You've got to get better and one day you'll be undeniable.
01:03:19.000And if you don't, and if you just fall back on that safety net, you're always going to wonder.
01:03:31.000I actually, at one point, my pops, my pops is awesome, but...
01:03:36.000He's like a Vietnam vet and rode a Harley his whole life, and he just basically said to me, he's like, yo, you either gotta start paying rent at the house, because you're not in high school no more, and get a 60 hour a week job, like a real job, or you need to go.
01:03:52.000Go fucking play drums, but you're not gonna do it here in my garage.
01:03:56.000And it was probably the best thing that was ever said to me, you know, as harsh as it was or whatever.
01:04:00.000And then I had actually caved in and I just told my friend Noel, I was like, you know what, I think I'm just gonna, I'm gonna get this fucking job because I just somehow got a job that made, you know, in a warehouse.
01:04:12.000It was like Target warehouse, making pretty good money compared to what I was making at the time.
01:04:17.000And he hit me the next day and he's like, I think you're making a big mistake.
01:04:21.000I think you're very fucking talented and I think you'll regret this.
01:04:24.000And you can get this bullshit job any time down the line.
01:04:28.000Come live with me on, you know, stay at my house.
01:04:29.000You can sleep on the floor or the couch.
01:04:31.000And let's play in this fucking band and do it.
01:05:36.000Those stories right now, some kids are listening to those stories right now, listening to you say this, and they're like, fuck, man, I'm going to do it.
01:09:57.000So then they do what's called grafting.
01:10:01.000Oh, and I lost some tattoos from my back.
01:10:03.000It's like a cheese grater, and they grade all of your skin off your back and my thighs, and then they staple it to you with pig cadaver, and they wait for you to start healing.
01:11:03.000I would just be like, I don't know, I just never think about fire.
01:11:08.000Until you're on fire and then you're like, oh shit.
01:11:11.000And then the treatments afterwards to do everything.
01:11:20.000They would put me in this big pan that was literally about as big as this table.
01:11:24.000With different people all around you, and they would scrape all my burns with a metal brush to get rid of all the infection.
01:11:30.000Because I basically, when I jumped through the emergency exit, when I opened the emergency exit before the plane blew up, I was in such a hurry to get out of the plane and exit the plane, I jumped right into the jet, which is full of fuel.
01:11:56.000So they had like, that was the main thing to get rid of an infection is they scrub you with a metal brush to get rid of all of it and all of the dead skin.
01:12:04.000And then I did about 30 surgeries to repair everything, like skin graft surgeries.
01:12:10.000They saved my foot because at one point they were going to amputate my right foot.
01:16:49.000Yeah, some shit will fly through the air, land on someone's house, and if you have, like, pine needles or something on your roof or a flammable roof, you know, it just catches on fire.
01:17:14.000No, I think they've been trying to blame, or blame has been put on different utility companies and whatnot, and they're not taking the blame where they can prove that it wasn't them.
01:17:29.000When I was in Boulder, there was a giant fire that broke out that was a fireman accidentally started.
01:17:36.000Yeah, he had a fire pit in his backyard and some fucking embers blew out of his fire pit and started a giant fire and just burnt massive amounts of wild forest.
01:18:27.000You know, and a lot of this is because of, I mean, there's a lot of issues, right?
01:18:31.000There's the dry, you know, the fact that dry climate, the fact that, you know, there's a climate change that's happening, but also the fact that there's no small fires.
01:18:42.000Like, all those dead trees are supposed to get knocked down by small fires, like controlled fires.
01:19:46.000Yeah, it took a little while for us to have pyro again.
01:19:49.000I remember it was like we had just got back together and like this really really like killer like photographer had this idea to do this photo shoot and they wanted us holding like the um whatchamacallit the thing like the flares in the accent.
01:20:07.000And he got me to hold it for a second, and I was like, ah, bro, I can't do this.
01:23:33.000Yeah, but the UFO thing, it's like, boy, boy, you gotta...
01:23:37.000I mean, I absolutely believe there could be intelligent life out there, but I haven't seen a fucking single thing that makes me think that anybody's got a picture or a video.
01:23:48.000Yeah, I feel like it could be real, I believe, but I can't fucking...
01:23:54.000I'm not dedicating my life to search for it, you know?
01:23:57.000And I give it to him, man, to like, honestly, to walk away from your fucking very successful band to go do that shit, like, I have nothing but respect for his passion, but it's like, I couldn't do that.
01:24:29.000Survivorman would go out into the woods with a limited amount of things.
01:24:33.000He would say, like, okay, I've got this bucket, I've got a fucking pocket knife, and I've got a ball of yarn, and I'm going to survive out here for seven days.
01:24:44.000And he'd be filming himself eating frogs and catching a squirrel and finding edible plants and just living out in the forest and oftentimes going days and days without food.
01:24:54.000And then he would have a point where he'd get rescued.
01:24:57.000Seven days in, there would be a spot where they would meet him.
01:25:00.000He had an experience when he was in Alaska a long time ago where he was camping.
01:25:06.000And he said he heard footsteps, like big, heavy footsteps.
01:26:33.000And if you saw a black foot, especially...
01:26:36.000A black bear, rather, especially from a distance, you would think it was a big gorilla.
01:26:39.000If it was standing up on two feet, which they do do, especially when they're trying to see something, they'll stand up and they'll even walk.
01:26:45.000There's a lot of videos of them walking on two feet.
01:27:02.000There definitely was a thing called Gigantopithecus that lived in Asia.
01:27:06.000And the thought is that it came across the Bering Land Bridge the same time that Native Americans came across from Asia.
01:27:12.000And that they came across, you know, because they lived in Asia, and this Gigantopithecus, I think, lived as recently, I think, as 100,000 years ago.
01:27:23.000I think the most recent fossils they have of it, which is, you know, human beings were alive back then.
01:27:28.000And this thing was an 8 to 10 foot tall bipedal hominid.
01:27:35.000So it was a huge, huge ape-like creature.
01:29:12.000Have you ever seen that video where the lady was in China and they were in one of those parks and she got in a fight with her boyfriend and she got out of the car and she got killed by a tiger?
01:30:47.000A friend of mine just sent me a message this morning when I posted that thing on Instagram about that guy that killed it.
01:30:53.000And he said he was running on this fire road and he realized, he like felt weird and looked over and 20 feet away from him was a big cat right above him on this ridge.
01:32:20.000Like, I saw one of my friends, a dear friend of mine, he lost both of his dogs to coyotes, and he had, I think he had, like, surveillance of it.
01:32:27.000And one is in the yard and he's playing dead.
01:32:30.000And then his dogs approach what they think is dead.
01:32:34.000And then basically his homie comes out of nowhere and attacks.
01:32:39.000And the one that's playing dead attacks.
01:32:45.000I mean, they were smaller dogs, but now he has like big German Shepherds and he's, you know, he's kind of like got bigger dogs now, but it was really sad, man.
01:33:04.000Like if it wasn't so sad that they're killing someone's pet, it's really kind of fascinating that they're so smart that they would play dead.
01:33:12.000There was a guy that used to work at this pet store that I go to, and he also worked in a veterinary center, a medical place, and a pit bull came in, one of those big jack pit bulls, just covered in cuts.
01:37:38.000I'm so glad because I would have had to drive five or six days to Florida, to Fort Lauderdale, then get in a boat, and then get over to the Bahamas.
01:37:47.000So thank God, man, because I was literally on my way there.
01:38:59.000And I know, fuck, you know, they say it's way more dangerous to be on the road in a bus or in a car than be in a plane, but I don't know, one day.
01:39:07.000I always say like if my kids want to fly one day, maybe I'll be down.
01:39:23.000I mean, I don't think anybody's ever going to be able to understand what you've gone through with that kind of an ordeal.
01:39:29.000A plane crash where your friends died and the pilots are dead and you managed to get out alive but almost lost your foot and burned half your body plus.
01:43:28.000But that's because that's actually a military strategy because they're concerned that as technology improves, Russians are going to be in space and we're going to be in space.
01:55:47.000I'm more in line with that, but I want to know what these guys are working on, like the David Sinclairs of the world, because he's at the tip of the spear when it comes to longevity and gene editing.
01:56:01.000What they're talking about is being able to inject certain genes or bacteria that carry genes.
01:56:17.000They're going to be able to do some mad, mad shit.
01:56:20.000As long as human beings don't, we don't figure out, I mean, we don't nuke ourselves or fuck the world to a point where, you know, scientific research halts.
01:56:30.000If these guys can keep going, if we can make it to the next 50 years, people are probably going to live to be 300 years old.
01:58:42.000The more recent version of The Great Gatsby with Leonardo DiCaprio when they drove those cars, but it was a weird movie because they made those cars almost like modern.
02:00:27.000I feel like you're stepping into the future when you drive those.
02:00:30.000Anything else wouldn't seem even up to date, you know?
02:00:33.000But there's something about cars like your 41 Cadillac that have a theme to them that you're never going to get from a new car.
02:00:41.000Yeah, you know what's cool about those is like, when you're in those, you're not concerned with whatever's on the radio or talking on the phone or...