In this episode, we talk about stand-up comedy in Brazil and how it started. We talk about the early days of stand up comedy, the rise of standup, and what it means to be a comedian in Brazil today. We also talk about what it's like being a journalist in a country where people don't know what to expect when they go on stage, and how to deal with the pressure of being a comedian. We hope you enjoy this episode and that it makes you think about how important it is to have a sense of humor in the workplace and in your everyday life. We hope that this episode makes you laugh and that you can relate to some of the jokes that we talked about in this episode! Thank you so much for listening to this episode of the podcast, and we hope that you have a great rest of your week :) Enjoy! xoxo, Eder -Eduardo (P.S. Sorry about the audio quality, we had some issues with the intro and outro. We re working on this one. We ll fix it next time) -Eder (Sorry about that) - Eder, we re still trying to figure out how to record this thing out. -Josie (Sergio) Eder ( ) (Eder, I hope you like it. (Josinho) (Paulo, I know that it s going to be better in the future) -Paulo) -Paula, I don t know how to do stand up right? (Paula) - Paulo, Paulo ( ) - Paula, you re a little bit better than this one? Paula (Boa, I m not sure if you re going to make it better than that? (Jose) - Paulo) - I m going to do it better next time? - Can you help me do it? ? (John) - Josio, Paula? :Josio . (Gynn) - How do you know what you re gonna do this one better than Paulo? , ? ? Do you think it s gonna be better than the other one? (Jose, do you think so? ) - :Paula or not? / / Paula - I ll decide?
00:01:00.000Because we used to have characters and impersonators.
00:01:04.000So it was kind of weird, but at the same time it was interesting because I'm not a guy who does characters and I do observations and I write.
00:01:23.000You would think that because everything else, I mean, you guys have movies and, you know, I mean, City of God, you have action movies, you have so much that's so similar.
00:01:33.000The fact that stand-up comedy made it there is so unusual.
00:02:00.000It was something that we couldn't connect that much.
00:02:04.000But when we saw there was a lot of people doing other stuff, and there was this huge role that we could actually explore, that was when it became interesting for us.
00:02:14.000So comedy in Brazil, there would basically be like, say if I was a Brazilian comedian, I would come up with a fake name, and I would do a character.
00:03:14.000I remember that there was like pictures of cocks in the bathroom and like vaginas, like huge vaginas.
00:03:23.000And we had that show and it wasn't good, but it was an experience for all of us.
00:03:30.000To go on stage and try to show them our opinions and our jokes and some irony and sarcasm, which was something that people wasn't watching.
00:03:42.000But then it becomes something huge and we got chances to go to TV and everything else.
00:03:49.000But at first it was difficult because people could not understand, is he a character?
00:04:26.000Yeah, it was difficult, man, because it was like journalists in the audience waiting for me to say some shit to put out of context and then got like fucking like billions of clicks on their websites because of a joke I did.
00:05:32.000So the country was not that prepared for what I was doing at the time.
00:05:37.000What kind of laws do you have in Brazil in terms of like the language you're allowed to use on television?
00:05:43.000You know, I'm not saying there's like a government censorship about what you can say or what you cannot say, but Sponsors and even TV stations and the media is very sensitive about everything because it's still a poor country.
00:06:02.000Brazil is still a third-world country.
00:06:04.000So we have a lot of people that don't understand the, oh, this is comedy.
00:08:25.000I mean, it's obviously in America, there's this sort of acknowledgement that black people were slaves for so long, they are allowed to do more things.
00:12:34.000Unless you're just celebrating the differences and how interesting there's different food and different music and different culture and literature.
00:12:41.000But the actual real racism, the fact that it still exists in 2019. It is crazy.
00:12:49.000And there is a racism in Brazil as well.
00:12:51.000I'm not saying that there's not racism.
00:14:03.000That was 1999. So when you brought it over to Brazil, when you brought over stand-up, did you guys get together and say, hey, let's try to do this over here, where can we do it?
00:14:14.000I had three friends that knew about it.
00:14:17.000It's kind of a cult, a secret cult of people who knew about stand-up.
00:14:52.000And it took some time because we started in 2008. 2002, 2003, and YouTube just came in 2005. But when YouTube came, there was like a lot of people posting stand-up and little like 30 Minutes Comedy Central specials,
00:18:28.000So if I translate it in a right way, if people understand the context, if people understand what I'm talking about, like the pregnancy of my wife, and marriage, and I don't know, being single and everything, or maybe...
00:18:57.000It was very surprising because some jokes that I didn't think was that funny worked, and the ones that I was actually pretty sure they would work, didn't work.
00:19:10.000And I got so frustrated and completely lost, man.
00:19:13.000I was like, this is going to be a huge road for me.
00:22:00.000Well, that helped Fabricio Verdum in Mexico because he's so fluent in Spanish that, you know, when he was over there fighting, you know, they were like, holy shit, this guy speaks perfect Spanish.
00:22:10.000He's from the same city that I am, which is Porto Alegre city in the south.
00:22:14.000So we kind of have some Spanish in the city.
00:23:58.000It's just like, I was saying this, it's just like you meeting Eddie Murphy, one of the greatest comedians ever, and you think, oh, there's Dr. Dolittle.
00:24:40.000Everybody left and there was no problem.
00:24:43.000But next week, there was this huge thing because she was like, her husband was very influential and her husband was managing Ronaldo, which was one of the biggest soccer players ever.
00:24:58.000So there was this whole thing, the TV show lost sponsors and they want to suspend me from the TV show because of a joke that I did.
00:25:20.000Because I felt that after like 10 years doing stand-up or 12 years doing stand-up, it was important for me to like put my feet on the ground and say, you know, if we step back right now, what am I going to do in like...
00:26:28.000Yeah, I had a lawsuit because I did like a rape joke and I got like this women movement like trying to break into my bar and break the door of my comedy club and that was like...
00:26:42.000But the discussion was more important than the problem itself.
00:26:46.000It was the discussion about freedom of speech and that was huge.
00:26:52.000What is freedom of speech like in Brazil?
00:27:21.000But it's supposed to be a fucked up joke.
00:27:23.000He's doing it in a nightclub situation where people are drinking.
00:27:27.000You say things that are inappropriate, and that's the art form.
00:27:30.000He got sued, and he's still in the process of it right now.
00:27:34.000There's another case in Vancouver where these women were heckling.
00:27:37.000They were yelling things out during the show, and then the comedian went on stage and berated the women, and then the women sued and won.
00:27:45.000Because they were lesbians, and he made some lesbian jokes about them at their own expense, and so then they took him to court, and they won.
00:28:47.000It's like, when I arrived here, someone said to me, you know, don't use the N-word or people are going to kick your ass.
00:28:52.000But they never told me what the N-word was.
00:28:55.000So for the past six months, I have been avoiding all wars with the leather N. And the other day, a guy came up to me and said, can I fuck your ass?
00:29:32.000Yeah, so that's, it's crazy, and I watch you a lot, and I see a lot of people here.
00:29:38.000I saw the other guy, this guy did an interview with you, and he did this show in a college, and he did a joke, and people took him out of stage.
00:31:02.000And his joke was that people say that being gay is a choice.
00:31:08.000And he said, I know it's not a choice because I have a friend who's black and gay, and there's no way he would choose both of those things.
00:31:42.000Maybe sometimes it's annoying if you're listening in your cubicle and you hear me talking too much about this.
00:31:46.000But it's because it's an issue that's very dear to my heart, because I understand the dangers of not being able to communicate freely.
00:31:56.000And I also understand what happens when, if you suppress free communication, the people that you're suppressing, they're going to get more and more angry and radical, and it just makes their position, they feel more justified.
00:32:09.000And perhaps even people who are racist could perhaps be more racist, or people who are angry about gay people will become more angry about it if you suppress their ability to express themselves.
00:32:20.000That's when born those little movements, neo-Nazi movements, little groups, and little groups on the web, and the deep web, when discussion, it's like when it's forbidden, I think you kind of give them a power that they didn't have.
00:32:33.000And I think this is something that we're really just getting to understand now.
00:32:37.000I've had a few conversations about this recently with the head of Twitter and with an independent journalist, Tim Poole, last week.
00:32:44.000And I think what people just started to kind of understand, even though everyone's uncomfortable about this, is we're still trying to figure this out.
00:32:52.000Social media is only 10-plus years old.
00:32:54.000This is an incredibly new experience for us.
00:32:56.000And I don't think everybody knows exactly how to proceed.
00:32:59.000And this idea that you can just ban people, and then just ban people for life.
00:33:03.000If they say something that makes people uncomfortable, if they say an opinion that you don't agree with, ban them for life.
00:33:07.000And we're experiencing that right now.
00:33:11.000We're trying to figure out what to do and how to fix this and how to mitigate it without endorsing people, harassing people and endorsing people, you know, threatening people and giving out their address and their phone number and things along those lines.
00:33:24.000So it's a process that we're all going through right now.
00:33:27.000It is a learning process for the whole country.
00:33:31.000But the thing that annoys me a little bit is that I... I live in another country and I see how things are difficult and how much time I spend explaining to people what I was doing.
00:33:46.000And for you guys, it's like I was having the same problems that Lenny Bruce was having a long time ago.
00:34:39.000For the top guys, for guys like Dave Chappelle and Bill Burr, it actually makes their stand-up better because people are so tired of all this shit.
00:35:18.000Look, everybody has their own sensibilities, and one of the problems with stand-up comedy is if you go to a club to see music, you know what kind of music you're going to go see.
00:36:27.000See, if I go to do a show, if I do a show somewhere in San Diego, say, and I advertise it, the people that come, they bought a ticket to see me.
00:41:08.000My kid's there, and last time that I was leaving, and he was like, if I'm the most important in your life, why are you searching for something so far away?
00:41:18.000And I told him, this is very important for me, but it is selfish.
00:41:24.000This is something that I wanted to do.
00:41:26.000And for my career, it was important because I didn't...
00:43:01.000I just memorize everything that I'm going to write because if I mess up a word or two, I can kill a joke and I want everything to work flawlessly.
00:44:13.000You're looking at a big 15-inch screen and I can type without looking at my fingers.
00:44:17.000And so when I have ideas, I can get them out really quick and I don't have to say them.
00:44:21.000I just look at it on the screen and then I'll write many versions of it and then I go over it and I smuck a little weed and then start editing and twisting it around.
00:45:09.000And here's how I know I have a problem.
00:45:10.000And then I'll go into it, and then I'll start talking about all the different areas, and then I'll listen to the recording, and I'll go, oh, that part sucks.
00:45:16.000I got to fix this part, and this part's stupid, and this part is sloppy, but that part got to laugh.
00:45:26.000And then it's this constant process of writing, writing it out, going on stage, recording all sets, listening to the recording, and then writing again.
00:45:38.000When you listen to those sets, do you keep the funny ones?
00:45:44.000Or is there some time that you do like a funny joke but you don't like it?
00:46:53.000Man, I bet probably hundreds of comedians have done a joke about that.
00:46:57.000It's just like an obvious premise and, you know, like you were saying earlier that sometimes people would say jokes that you've said and you have a hard time explaining, that's my joke.
00:47:08.000And to them it's just an anecdote or then it's just something funny that they heard.
00:47:12.000Sometimes people go on stage and their act consists of really obvious premises that they have probably already heard someone cover before.
00:48:33.000You gotta be like, oh, you gotta deep and you gotta fucking go into the bottom to search for something good and I understand this process but at the same time, do I really have to go through all that to come with something great?
00:48:50.000Chris D'Elia actually has a bit about that.
00:48:52.000I don't want to do his bit, but it's basically a bit about how good his childhood was and how close he is with his family and everybody thinks that you have to have a fucked up childhood to be a comedian.
00:50:35.000I went to the psychiatrist, man, and I told him, no, I smoked that thing like 14 days ago and I still high.
00:50:42.000And he looked at me and he gave me some, some psycho, he gave me some pills and I was like, oh, if you stay high until tomorrow, you take these pills.
00:50:54.000Because what he told me is something that I didn't know, that it can be a trigger.
00:50:59.000If you have some tendencies of schizophrenia, and a psychopath, which was not my case, and he's told, this is very rare, but it can happen, which is not your case, and I was happy because he said it.
00:51:13.000And the next day I was okay, and I felt okay.
00:51:16.000And I didn't take the pills, and I was crazy, man!
00:57:01.000It's like, I mean, he got knocked out by a few different guys, and he's lost some fights, some tough fights, but his last fight, he looked as good as he's looked in years.
00:57:10.000It's sad for me when I see, like, I don't know why.
00:57:14.000It's always with Brazilians, but when I see, like, an old fighter getting his ass thick too quick.
00:58:04.000You know, when Chuck Liddell just got knocked out by Tito Ortiz, that was hard to watch because you could tell he just can't take a punch anymore.
00:58:10.000I was in that fight that went there to watch it.
00:58:15.000The thing about when fighters take a lot of knockout losses, one of the things that becomes apparent is their balance looks off and their movement doesn't look the same.
00:58:26.000Like their neurology, their body doesn't move the same way.
00:58:30.000It can look the same but doesn't react the same, right?
00:58:33.000I mean, even Anderson, when he lost to Stylebender, I think Stylebender would have been a tough fight for him at any point in his career, because Stylebender is just fantastic, super technical.
00:58:44.000But Anderson looked like he was a step behind the Anderson of old.
00:58:48.000Like the Anderson that knocked out Vitor.
00:58:51.000The Anderson that, you know, you go back to the early days.
00:58:54.000The Anderson that knocked out Chael Sonnen.
00:58:56.000I mean, that Anderson was a fucking...
01:00:44.000Well, Minotauro, not only was he a pioneer and one of the great MMA heavyweights of all time, but he's so important for MMA because he showed that heavyweights can fight off their back and that heavyweights can win by triangle.
01:00:58.000Like when he triangled Mark Coleman and was tapping guys with arm bars when he beat Bob Sapp.
01:05:23.000One day I woke up and there was a story on the New York Times saying that I was the most influential profile on Twitter and in second place, the Dalai Lama.
01:07:23.000If you didn't know anything about people, and you just looked on Twitter, and you just, like, saw how...
01:07:29.000You're like, well, people must be fighting in the streets.
01:07:31.000There must be just a bloodbath out there.
01:07:33.000If you really thought that people interacted in the real world the way they do on Twitter, you would think that everywhere is just weapons and clubs...
01:08:41.000What I'm doing right now, I have this series that I do on Instagram where I just, I get like the guy cursing me or saying some shit about me.
01:13:01.000So it probably would have been just one of those moments in a live crowd filled with drunk people, but she wrote a blog about it where she was the victim.
01:13:10.000She wrote this huge blog about him calling for her to get raped, which is not exactly what he did.
01:13:15.000It's in the context of being heckled, you understand what it is.
01:13:20.000And he kind of had to have some sort of an apology for it, but then all these other people jumped in, and then it became a moment where people could show that they don't support rape, or they don't support what we call rape culture.
01:14:28.000No, not only that, but that's why what people said to me and what I felt was that I was, a lot of people said I was using this freedom of speech argument To offend people.
01:15:11.000So, like, after, it wasn't approved, but the law was, like, changing after the voting, but when it becomes, at the end, the government was, like, when it was getting the time of the voting, the government was like, okay, what about if I take some tweets as well that offend me?
01:15:27.000So, the government tried to get into the way of things.
01:15:30.000So, it is a matter of freedom of speech.
01:15:32.000When this is going to end, it becomes with the joke of, But maybe it can end with the government shutting you up.
01:16:01.000Yeah, I don't know what his joke was about, but he was making fun of the government.
01:16:05.000But then, like, one year after that, he makes some jokes about people with Down syndrome, and then the government felt that he has to go to jail because of the Down syndrome joke.
01:16:17.000They were using that thing to take him out of the streets.
01:16:50.000So, like, for you, when you see Americans complaining about freedom of speech over here and not being able to say whatever you want, it's kind of a joke, right?
01:20:23.000I mean, that's got to be really a good feeling to know that all these people that are doing it now that are professional comedians, you took the first steps.
01:22:59.000You know, you could do a movie and put so much effort and time into it and no one will see it.
01:23:04.000Like, maybe it'll be opposite some fucking big Avengers movie and nobody goes to see your movie and it's out of the movie theater in a week.
01:23:43.000And it's crazy because movies are getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger because they have to bring you something that takes you out of your house.
01:23:54.000People don't go to the movie to watch Adam Sandler anymore.
01:23:57.000They want a fucking superhero kicking your face and coming in your neck.
01:24:25.000It's hard to pay your bills and get up every morning to a job you don't want to get up to and maybe you're not even into being married anymore and you gotta fucking trudge through that because maybe you have children and you decide that it's better to stay for your children and you're fucking living in hell and your neighbor's a cunt and the dog won't stop barking and then you just need something.
01:24:47.000My friend, that's why I'm so optimistic in life.
01:24:50.000What a chance I have of pursuing my dream and doing comedy and making people laugh and having fun and don't have to sit in a fucking chair for eight hours a day with a job that I don't like.
01:25:05.000Because if you like to be an accountant, that's okay.
01:25:14.000No, it was never for me either, or any comedian that I know.
01:25:17.000Everyone that I know was like doing something and living in hell until they decided to be a comedian.
01:25:22.000Or the thought of doing something else.
01:25:24.000But, you know, that's the path of life, right?
01:25:27.000The path of life is, for some people, what we do would be hell.
01:25:31.000For some people that are introverts, or they don't like attention, or they don't like public speaking, and they're not necessarily funny, what we do is hell.
01:25:41.000If you weren't a funny person, and you don't know how to make people laugh, and you have to go on stage and make people laugh every night, that's your job, and you have to try hard, or there's some sort of pain involved, fuck.
01:27:43.000And I was doing, it was a story about me.
01:27:46.000And then the cover, it wasn't in the cover, but the picture on the Rolling Stone was me dressed as Jesus, like bleeding with a crown on my head.
01:27:55.000And that was, in the text, was this...
01:28:31.000There's things that you say where you're not thinking them out because you're ad-libbing in the moment and they come out and even you disagree with them as you're saying them.
01:29:41.000But if he's just testing stuff, you cannot judge by that.
01:29:44.000Well, the problem is now everybody wants to judge everything he does.
01:29:47.000They want to find him and watch him, and so now he has to institute this cell phone policy at all the comedy clubs he works at where you have to take your phone and put it in a bag so that no one can get a hold of it.
01:30:01.000And it's also a real problem for creating comedy.
01:30:04.000Because if people don't understand that this is what comedy is about, that comedy is about improvisation and then boiling it down to what's good and then figuring out what's the best way to express an idea...
01:30:17.000Because sometimes you have an idea, and you know there's something there, but you don't know how to say it.
01:30:21.000So you just take a chance on one way, and then you go, oh, that's offensive.
01:30:29.000Yeah, there's many bits that I did, like not my last special, but the special before, where when I first started them, they were not doing well at all.
01:30:46.000For instance, I had this one bit on women and inventions, and that women don't invent a lot of things.
01:30:53.000And it took a long time for me to figure out how to do that.
01:30:57.000And the best way to do that was to talk about all the great things about women first.
01:31:02.000So I just had to talk about the concept that women are supposed to work, that women are supposed to work as well as raise children, which is fucking crazy, because raising children—I'm not saying that every woman should raise children and that they shouldn't have a career,
01:31:18.000but if you— If you think that it's easy to raise children, you're out of your fucking mind.
01:31:23.000It's one of the most difficult things in the world.
01:31:24.000Just to have the patience, you're dealing with these little people, you have to teach them things, you have to give them love and constant attention, and it's very, very time consuming and it's difficult.
01:31:34.000And these women are making people in their fucking bodies.
01:31:38.000It's the most incredible thing that anyone has ever created.
01:32:40.000And so I was trying to remove people from the tribal male versus female dynamic just to talk about the fact that in history, there have not been like relatively a lot of women inventors.
01:35:44.000And YouTube gives you much more money than it does in Brazil.
01:35:47.000But we have the same speech of, like I have this YouTube channel called Ilha de Barbados in Brazil, and we are having a lot of problems with, we are getting, not monetizing our videos.
01:35:59.000We are suffering through the same problems.
01:36:01.000Well, they don't know exactly what to do, because advertisers are very wary about certain content, and so they have these deals with these advertisers, and so they're trying to suppress content because they don't want to minimize, they don't want to lose revenue.
01:37:22.000I think they're going to work it out in a better way eventually.
01:37:25.000There's also a thing called YouTube Red.
01:37:29.000And with YouTube Red, even if things get demonetized, the people that are paying for YouTube, see, you pay for YouTube Red so you never get any advertisements.
01:37:37.000And you still, like, if you've got a certain amount of people that are, I think 50% of our revenue comes from YouTube Red.
01:41:59.000For me, it didn't look like he cared much about the speech side of things because they're companies.
01:42:06.000So they have to pay their bills and they have to bring sponsors.
01:42:10.000And even brands are more left-sided here in this country.
01:42:14.000Well, because that's where it's sensitive, right?
01:42:16.000Because that's where you can get boycotted.
01:42:18.000I think there's definitely something to what you're saying there.
01:42:21.000If you're the CEO of a major corporation like Twitter or something like that, you're responsible to your stockholders, you're responsible to all the people that work on the board.
01:42:29.000If you want to stay CEO, you've got to continue to make more and more money every year.
01:42:34.000You've got to bring more people to the platform, make the platform more popular, make more money.
01:42:38.000And in their eyes, the way to do that and to maximize that is to limit harassment, limit things.
01:42:44.000So these are our social decisions, but they're also business strategies.
01:42:48.000They're two different things together at the same time.
01:44:07.000Negative and positive, pro and con, all of it, the whole thing.
01:44:11.000It's like the amount of content that gets put out there and the amount of interactions and the amount of debate that comes from that content.
01:44:31.000You would get caught up in the negative or maybe even worse, caught up in the positive.
01:44:36.000People kiss your ass, you start believing it.
01:44:38.000So I just try to be humble and if there's an overwhelming negative reaction, I hear about it and then I try to adjust and address it and respect that I'm in this unique position where I do have this weird sort of platform.
01:44:52.000I saw you talking about that you thought that you weren't that informed to do the Twitter guy.
01:44:58.000Yeah, that's why I brought Tim Pool in.
01:45:45.000Yeah, so what it is is they go to school, I get up with them, either I take them to school or my wife takes them to school, and then I go either workout, either I do yoga or lift weights or jiu-jitsu or whatever in the morning, then I come here, I'm done in the afternoon, then I hang out with them until it's time to eat,
01:46:02.000we eat dinner, and then after dinner, they go to bed.
01:47:15.000Sometimes it's just like, okay, what was difficult is that her cult Was teaching her that you gotta love everybody the same, which is awesome if you think about it.
01:47:40.000When you learn that you have to love everybody the same, why are you going to focus on just one man in a marriage and you have to go home and you kind of live your life to yourself?
01:47:56.000Or maybe she didn't love me anymore and I'm fucking blaming the cult.
01:48:36.000I think it's awesome that you do that.
01:48:37.000Because you know the power that these have and how you could actually be influenced in their lives in a bad way.
01:48:46.000But you have to be very careful of people that do tell you that they have the answers and they're the one and they're the smart ones and you need to listen to them because those people are fucking dangerous because they can get you to do things that are irreversible.
01:48:59.000They can get you to leave your family.
01:49:00.000They can get you to join this fucking commune and Give up all your worldly belongings.
01:49:05.000Then you realize years later, they're fucking crazy.
01:49:08.000Like that Wild Wild Country documentary that we were talking about.
01:49:49.000Anytime we have one person that's talking in front of a microphone and everyone else is listening, it's a weird position to be in.
01:49:58.000And you hear this person through your earphones or through your computer screen and you start thinking that they're making sense and that they're right.
01:50:07.000Because there's no one to counter what they're saying in front of them.
01:50:10.000There's no one with opposing opinions.
01:50:50.000And he changed our perception of what martial arts are and what's effective and what's not.
01:50:54.000But before that, I mean, I grew up in a Taekwondo school, which was very disciplined, and everyone was, sir, like you would call everyone Mr. Smith or Mr. O'Malley, everyone Mr. Kim, yes, sir.
01:51:07.000If someone said something to me, I would always say, yes, sir, yes, sir.
01:51:19.000I saw a lot of very cult-like behavior.
01:51:22.000There was a lot of men who would take advantage sexually of their students, and they would do weird shit to their students, and it was almost like running a little sex cult.
01:51:47.000And there was people that, like, they were in these positions of power where their students looked at them like a god and they took advantage of it.
01:51:56.000And this is the same thing as what we're talking about here.
01:52:01.000When one person has too much power and influence in a platform, One of the beautiful things about jiu-jitsu is its informality.
01:52:09.000Like my instructor, John-Jacques Machado, he's the friendliest, nicest guy.
01:52:28.000So it's like the informality and the brothership and camaraderie and the family environment that is fostered by Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is very unique in martial arts.
01:52:38.000And that I think is very important because the respect comes from their ability and from leading by example.
01:52:44.000It doesn't come from some fake position of being some master of the death touch and some all-knowing person at the top of the mountain.
01:52:52.000We all thought our instructor could kill everyone on the planet.
01:53:58.000I mean, what Brazil did for martial arts is probably one of the single most significant things that's happened in the thousands of years of people fighting each other.
01:54:17.000There was an article that I read recently where Vanderlei was talking about...
01:54:23.000You know, he's having difficulty now, because, you know, he's had so many wars, he fought for so many years, and then he went to some sort of conference on concussions and CTE, and he had 13 of the 15 symptoms.
01:54:37.000Yeah, yeah, and he was talking about how he forgets things, he's impulsive, all these different symptoms he had, and then the very next thing he said is, but I want to fight Vitor Belfort.
01:57:37.000And she's recording everything on her fucking phone.
01:57:39.000So she has like hours and hours of footage of recordings, which you're not supposed to do.
01:57:45.000It's like you could literally Russians and Chinese and the Iranians and anybody that wants to tune in could hack into her fucking phone, turn the microphone on, and this is absolute proven technology, and they're using that to listen in the middle of the situation room.
01:58:02.000So if there's some sort of top secret shit that's going on, Some foreign entity could be listening in through her phone while she's recording.
01:59:40.000He's probably like, I'm the fucking president.
01:59:42.000I'll make her, she's going to be my left-hand lady or right-hand lady.
01:59:46.000It is not that difficult, at least in Brazil, it's not that difficult for famous people to get elected when they were running for a congressman.
01:59:53.000Because there's so many options that if you're known and you get like 1% of the voting, you're already elected.
02:00:01.000But if you go run for like a mayor or like a...
02:01:29.000I don't know if you ever watched, like you were watching in the middle of the night and you turn on your TV and there's this guy talking that he was like, Oh, there's a demon that is running over my soul.
02:01:39.000And there's like those TV shows called Stop Suffering.
02:01:46.000It's more like for the domestic audiences.
02:03:16.000So, if we do a poll in Brazil, people will be against abortion, against the legalization of abortion, and against drugs, like selling drugs and everything else.
02:04:47.000I don't know how to say this in English, but it's something that you hide the money that you're getting for a company, but if you get elected, you kind of forgive them favors.
02:04:56.000You help them to get involved in a huge construction.
02:05:01.000They're going to be in a stadium, then you help them somehow.