Alex Jones is back and better than ever! Alex and I talk about the Sandy Hook massacre, the Parkland school shooting, and much more. We also talk about why Alex should go to prison for conspiracy theories.
00:00:45.000I told you a long time ago that I would have you back on.
00:00:49.000And in the interest of being completely honest...
00:00:53.000I was hesitant to do it not because I didn't want to talk to you, but because of just the amount of bullshit that I get from people that get angry that you and I are friends.
00:01:04.000You know, that why give that guy a platform?
00:01:13.000Our only problems have always been when we're not, like if you're talking about me or if I'm talking about you, not if we're talking to each other.
00:01:26.000The lack of communication has been the problem.
00:01:29.000The thing that people are upset about you, the thing that we wanted to talk about quick to get it over with, or not quick, but just to get it up front.
00:02:01.000And now, just last year, the media came out and said, Alex Jones says Parkland didn't happen, and he's sending people to Parkland parents' houses.
00:02:13.000In fact, I said I believe Parkland happened.
00:02:14.000So I'm not going to be the mass shooting denial guy.
00:02:18.000I have been branded as the Sandy Hook guy.
00:02:20.000I mean, imagine a Final Cut Pro video editing timeline.
00:02:23.000And you go back almost, it was seven years ago, I guess it's more than seven years now, and the internet didn't believe some of the things about Sandy Hook.
00:03:06.000I think the majority of them are angry because the narrative has been that you're sending people to these Sandy Hook families' homes.
00:03:13.000Exactly, and I'm not, and I never have.
00:03:15.000That you're responsible for these people getting harassed because you said on your radio show that it wasn't real.
00:03:21.000Yes, there is video and audio of me saying, I can see how people don't think it happened, and I can see how people think it's synthetic because there's been stage events before.
00:03:28.000That then gets edited, put together, cobbled together.
00:03:31.000But I never said go to people's houses.
00:03:33.000I never said go investigate these families.
00:03:35.000Did you ever say that you think it's not real?
00:04:16.000And then they just think everything's a conspiracy.
00:04:19.000Well, this is the thing about conspiracies.
00:04:20.000It's very attractive to people that are schizophrenic.
00:04:23.000Schizophrenic people think everything's a fucking conspiracy from top to bottom.
00:04:26.000Every single interaction that people have is some sort of a stage event that's trying to take them down or control this or mind control that.
00:04:33.000That's a big factor in a lot of this conspiracy theory shit is mental illness.
00:04:39.000When I started to have people come to the office saying that I'm Bo Bridges or that I'm Jeff Bridges or that I am Bill Hicks and people in restaurants screaming, F you, Bill, we know it's you.
00:04:51.000It's kind of like Dan Rowdy, the guy threatening me.
00:04:56.000I've experienced now the, quote, fame of being super famous, being a conspiracy guy.
00:05:02.000I was legitimately questioning things because of Gulf of Tonkin, Northwoods, things that really happened.
00:05:06.000Babies that weren't thrown out of incubators against the Iraq war.
00:05:09.000I kind of realized a few years ago that I kind of had my own mild psychosis in that when you've been lied to by the media and the culture so much over and over again, everything then starts becoming automatically.
00:05:21.000And then everything you see fits into that.
00:05:24.000This is probably, again, four or five years ago, I began to realize because I was on the receiving end of people pulling up in white vans with guns at my office saying, I know you put a microchip in my head and I'm going to kill you.
00:05:34.000And so it was kind of like once I got super famous, it was like, whoa.
00:05:39.000There's a certain percentage of people that are way off on the spectrum where they believe everything's fake, and there's people that believe everything they hear is true.
00:05:46.000I mean, you should be questioning, you should have the right to do it, but it's somewhere in the middle.
00:05:51.000And so, this is what I'll say about Sandy Hook.
00:05:54.000I legitimately questioned it when people brought up anomalies.
00:05:58.000I then had debates about it on both sides.
00:06:01.000The internet pushed me to keep covering it.
00:06:02.000I probably covered it 20 times in the first few years it happened.
00:06:06.000And then as soon as I questioned it, not being staged, I got attacked so much that I said, screw it, mass shootings happen.
00:06:26.000Not that they didn't have the right to question it, but they thought, well, Alex Jones versus dead kids, Alex Jones denying it, Alex Jones harassing families.
00:06:32.000This is a perfect way to get this guy who's so popular in getting people to question and getting people to think.
00:06:38.000And so it took me years, I think I'm smart, I guess I'm not, to figure out what was going on.
00:06:41.000So when Hillary, a few months before the election, gives this huge speech and says, Alex Jones has a dark heart.
00:06:54.000So I came out and I said, listen, I never sent anybody to their houses, but I apologize if it's taken out of context.
00:06:59.000People have a right to question, but I'm sorry for the families, and I'm sorry for your hurt, and I get it, and I've experienced crazy people now, big time, just like you have.
00:07:07.000Please stop saying that I'm saying it didn't happen.
00:07:11.000Please stop saying I'm sending people to people's houses, because here's what happens.
00:07:16.000Every major TV channel, local TV channels, radio, I mean, thousands of articles that then get syndicated.
00:07:23.000If I said 100,000 articles, that's a low number.
00:07:26.000The amount of Sandy Hook coverage against me has been so insane and so huge because it's supposed to be the first domino that once I'm taken down, then all the dominoes fall.
00:08:05.000And so people then hear it and they think, oh, you know, it's like looking for the Mothman or something.
00:08:10.000They're all running up there and the media is saying it in my name.
00:08:14.000And I'm saying, no, I believe it happened years ago.
00:08:16.000And so then I'm getting the blame and the attacks and the demonization and the threats for what the corporate media is saying over and over again that I'm saying that it didn't happen.
00:08:25.000And the families are getting the threats and the families are getting the attacks.
00:08:28.000The families are getting called crisis actors.
00:08:38.000But again, I legitimately didn't think my show was as powerful as it was so that I wasn't retrospectively looking at everything I was doing as much as I should.
00:08:48.000As you get older, you grow and you learn things.
00:08:52.000I just began to realize about three years ago that they're making my identity, not being a nationalist, not being a populist, not being a free market guy, they're making my whole identity Sandy Hook.
00:09:03.000And I didn't even know they were going to sue me then.
00:09:05.000Well, it's just because that's what gets clicks.
00:09:07.000Yes, but then, before I ever got sued, I said, I believe Sandy Hook happened.
00:10:09.000Because everything they do about deplatforming me, the biggest frustration is I still have my huge audience and radio stations and Infowars.com and Newswars.com.
00:11:58.000A story of a guy who's saying that people didn't get killed when they did get killed.
00:12:04.000And it's horrific for people to look at.
00:12:06.000It's horrific for people to think about that their own children would not only get murdered, but then someone would accuse them of being a crisis actor.
00:12:13.000So then they start pushing that story, and that story becomes something that they make money off of.
00:12:22.000in the news and they keep getting clicks off of you and misrepresenting some of the things that you've said.
00:12:39.000People learn stuff as you get older in hindsight.
00:12:41.000You're like, "Why did I do that?" I used to, whatever was the big hot thing on the internet, I would just debate it because it was interesting.
00:13:43.000Sandy Hook's not the hill I'm dying on.
00:13:46.000I support people's right to question, and I understand because there's been so much lying in corporate media and by governments and staged events that are admitted and declassified that once people see that one thing was staged, then everything else must be staged.
00:14:02.000And then I have been on the receiving end of literally thousands of made-up conspiracies, which you laugh at until people in a truck with guns show up.
00:14:13.000And so I understand part of this is the complex world we live in, all the information we have more than ever, and a lot of it is all the drugs people are on.
00:15:23.000Like you were saying earlier, I looked at it's true, I didn't even know that, that the top soccer teams have the highest level of brain worm infestation.
00:15:28.000Well, there's a disproportionate amount of people that live in countries with a high toxoplasmosis infection with successful soccer teams.
00:15:36.000There was some study that was done on that, where we had Dr. Roberts of Boston.
00:15:40.000It's like women that have it are more sexually promiscuous.
00:15:45.000Yes, and they think that men are more reckless, and that's why there's a disproportionate amount of motorcycle victims that test positive for toxoplasmosis.
00:15:52.000This is what Robert Sapolsky at Stanford University was telling us.
00:15:55.000Is there a way to remove the brain worm?
00:15:59.000Well, you know, there's like snails that get a brain worm that programs to go to the top of a tree, so birds eat it, and then it's crapped out, and the snails eat that, and then it's a food cycle.
00:16:38.000So it literally gets its host to commit suicide.
00:16:40.000So how did that chain of events, how does that evolve where suddenly a worm gets in a grasshopper and does something a supercomputer couldn't do?
00:17:31.000I was covering other people questioning.
00:17:33.000But then there's a weird, sick irony in the media that says that...
00:17:40.000I'm the one that progenerated Sandy Hook didn't happen when I wasn't, to then in my name, popularize it to a level of like, they've put out more Sandy Hook propaganda against me, this is key, than before you invade a major country.
00:17:52.000I mean, this has been going on for years, every day, the news, the print.
00:17:56.000No one died at Sandy Hook, Alex Jones says.
00:17:58.000Alex Jones says go to their houses and hurt them.
00:18:04.000Well, you're thinking this because it's about you.
00:18:06.000So because it's about you, it becomes a primary point of focus because it's affecting your life and it's something you're concentrating on.
00:18:50.000In other countries, they don't print the name of mass shooters in the newspaper because they don't want people to get attention for that.
00:18:56.000I mean, some different countries have different philosophies.
00:18:59.000All I want to say is, Joe, I genuinely, I've known you 20 years, or since like 1998, 99. I genuinely really am trying to find the truth.
00:19:07.000And I realized that once I saw a bunch of declassified staged events like Northwoods or like Gladio or like Gulf of Tonkin or Jussie Smollett.
00:19:44.000But see, the problem is, that's where the psychosis comes in.
00:19:47.000Because if you're a little kid, because I've been reading more about psychology, trying to understand this stuff.
00:19:53.000If you're a little kid and somebody with red hair beats you and tortured you, say a man with red hair, just hypothetical, you're going to not like guys with red hair.
00:20:04.000So it's kind of like, or if you've been lied to as a kid, later that's what creates mental illness later.
00:20:08.000So if we've been lied to by the media and the corporate system and seen all these fake hoaxes and the fake stuff about Kavanaugh and the fake stuff about the Covenant kids and the fake stuff about Smollett, see, now the public, actually, here's what's happened.
00:20:20.000I'm getting huge backlash in Smollett.
00:20:24.000Wait a minute, who's giving you backlash about Smollett?
00:20:26.000Listeners and the public are like, hey, Smollett's fake, the Covington kids are fake, Belazi Ford and most of these women said it was all fake, so why are you saying Sandy Hook's real, everything's fake?
00:20:39.000It's like, no, dude, everything's not fake.
00:20:41.000That's what I'm saying is the differential's gone.
00:20:43.000And so, yeah, there's a bunch of fake stuff, and we have a right to question it, but now...
00:20:48.000Now, the general public, my fans believe everything's fake.
00:22:36.000I had an A++ rating with my shopping cart.
00:22:39.000And bank accounts that I had for 22 years.
00:22:43.000And banks looked at it and said, we've quite frankly never seen anybody with a credit rating this high because you never even do chargebacks with our shopping cart.
00:24:15.000This is actually dangerous to give people the ability to define people without any strict, rigid qualifications, without anything that you can point to on paper.
00:24:23.000If I was a convicted murderer and got out of prison, I could start an online store and sell t-shirts.
00:24:45.000Basically, it was the number one thing on the History Channel when they first launched it.
00:24:48.000So you can hear what Hitler has to say, even though we know he's a bad guy.
00:24:51.000Well, why can't you hear what Alex Jones has to say?
00:24:53.000Because they have found what I talk about is effective, it gets people thinking, and they want it shut down because we've relaunched populism.
00:25:01.000InfoWars has done this, my audience has.
00:25:27.000And that's what happened on that Sunday night when they said, that's it, we're done with Jones.
00:25:31.000We have to take him down because I got investigations going at the national security level sending big reports to the president through law firms of Reuters.
00:25:42.000AP, and then the articles, which he wasn't getting, where China has given the code keys by Apple, this is last year, and is moving their database there, and all the code keys have been given to the Chinese government, and Apple says that's just part of being there, and Google's building Dragonfly Project to help censor the entire population with a social credit score.
00:26:00.000They're already testing in Venezuela with China, and they're going to bring it here, and everything you do in live time will be controlled, and all the big airlines now are putting cameras in that watch you while you're on the airplane.
00:26:09.000So you think, let me stop you, because you're ranting again.
00:26:12.000You think they're using Sandy Hook as an excuse to get you off the air and to censor you and to take away your ability to make income, not because of that, but using that as an excuse because of the other things that you do, like targeting things like Google and talking about things that you're talking about where they're in China and they're allowing China to censor the population.
00:26:33.000I'm just telling you, I'm not against Google or Apple.
00:27:19.000Get some apple juice in your system, fella.
00:27:22.000They were thinking, and this is what I was talking to a woman who was a very high-level executive, and she was saying that they're going to steal it.
00:27:29.000If we don't work with them, they're just going to steal Google and take the code and make their own version of it.
00:27:35.000So, them as a business, they're like, this is inevitable.
00:28:29.000If you don't join us, then the bad guys that are in the system are going to win.
00:28:33.000That's how they co-opt you, because that's how those people you're talking to are probably a pretty good person, that person at Google.
00:28:38.000They've had hundreds of their top engineers quit over this, because here's the thing.
00:28:44.000China, in 1949, was nationalist and capitalist, and our own CIA, it's been declassified, leftist, the Ford Foundation, that's who's above the CIA, helped put the Chi-Coms in power.
00:28:58.000It took them decades to get running water and toilets.
00:29:01.000They have no environmental standards, no rules.
00:29:27.000So that China doesn't rape us of our technology, we're going to go over there and spread our legs to them even more, so it's not a rape.
00:29:34.000We're willing, and we're going to take you along with us.
00:29:36.000So the idea that, well, if we don't give it to them, they're just going to rip it off, so let us go really give them all the big secrets and have Google last year tell the Pentagon, we're not going to help you with AI autonomous drones, but Google gave them all the latest AI, and I'll get into more sophisticated stuff in a moment, Gave them all the sophisticated AI and now China announces they've got all these AI drones that are autonomous and all these AI weapon systems to direct their aircraft.
00:30:05.000So what I'm telling you is China has no rules.
00:30:08.00020 years ago they had cows that produced human milk.
00:30:11.00020 years ago, they had spiders that produced body armor.
00:31:29.000They have what they call a breakaway civilization.
00:31:32.000So instead of talking about the breakaway civilization, I want to talk about Sandy Hook, which I get, and I appreciate you letting me cover, and I'm sorry it ever happened.
00:31:41.000The families, and I asked the lawyers, and I asked them all, stop in my name, saying I'm the wolf at the door, saying go after these families, and stop running around through the news everywhere saying Alex Jones says Sandy Hook didn't happen.
00:31:53.000Because the media is the most unpopular thing in the world with 7% approval rating in Gallup.
00:31:59.000So when they say that I say it's fake, that sends people to Connecticut because people think the media lies.
00:32:05.000So if they're saying Alex Jones said it didn't happen, it must have not happened.
00:32:09.000And now they're trying to create a violent event.
00:32:11.000Not the families, but I think some of the people involved know that if they make a big enough hype about it, they're going to have a big event up there in Connecticut.
00:33:12.000Because a lot, I'll tell you, for the best of my knowledge, a lot of people think, oh, it's human harvesting of Falun Gong or these Buddhists who are really healthy.
00:33:54.000You could get something on the internet in like 1996. And I went and actually pulled up all these MIT reports.
00:33:59.000I took them to my dad and other people who was a doctor.
00:34:01.000And they go, yeah, that's really crazy.
00:34:03.000And it was all about how we've got to prepare the public for this because we're going to be able to download their memories and then put it in a new body.
00:35:02.000And I was in Wired Magazine 20-something years ago.
00:35:05.000Why the future he doesn't need is Bill Joy, a billionaire, co-owner of Sun Microsystems.
00:35:09.000He goes to a billionaire meeting with 200 guys and the consensus was, we're not going to let people play video games and party all day.
00:35:15.000We're going to set up a world government.
00:35:17.000We're going to slowly titrate the dose and poison the public, dumb them down, put electromagnetic radiation out with 5G that scrambles their DNA, lowers their IQ. We're going to cause mass mental illness and a controlled societal collapse that will then be organized and controlled in the mop-up crew by robots, controlled by the globalist programmers who believe...
00:35:36.000With the off-world entities they're in communication with, that they're going to be given the operation to upload and be in that larger kind of Borg cube system if they sell the country out.
00:35:47.000You've got to hit the brakes because we need to take this back to it.
00:35:54.000MIT Technology Review estimates that about 20 pregnancies of pig-human or sheep-human chimeras have been established during the last 12 months in the U.S. Total eyewitness in 2016. I 100% believe it.
00:39:53.000But I'm reading in the Baltimore Sun, after I just had him on and thought he was crazy, he was giving me all these patents for mind control using wavelengths and microwaves, and I'm sitting there looking at it, and I'm reading it.
00:41:14.000You've got a total schizophrenic that thinks the sun is following them around town and thinks their dog is watching them and works for the aliens.
00:41:40.000They can't handle that question, especially low IQ. So, they have to differentiate and create a model that allows them to put it in boxes so they can make it make sense because they can't handle it.
00:41:52.000It's like they say even top astronauts spacewalk for the first time and they're out in the universe and the whole planet's under them and what are they going to do?
00:42:01.000Well, imagine once you realize we don't know everything.
00:42:04.000We don't understand and it's endless and there's all this crazy crap.
00:42:07.000People go nuts and as humans learn more and more, as we become more advanced and go through this metamorphosis, It's going to create a giant societal crisis where most of the people are already going to get killed.
00:42:17.000The globalists understand that in the birth of this planet, this new species.
00:42:22.000And so they've decided to take control, make it scientific, stun everyone and dumb them down so they can scientifically try to orderly carry this operation out.
00:42:29.000But then I go, wait a minute, you're detonating over 100 hydrogen bombs in the upper atmosphere to see if you can ignite the atmosphere and destroy the Earth.
00:42:51.000I think people in a lot of ways are more immoral now.
00:42:53.000I think, I agree with you in some ways that everything evolves and things get better.
00:42:57.000This is one of my arguments about Operation Northwoods, that if they were able to push Operation Northwoods and get it signed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff in 1962, was it 62?
00:43:10.000No one got arrested for proposing that they were going to arm Cuban friendlies and have them bomb Guantanamo Bay and blow up a Cuban jetliner.
00:43:33.000The significance of the research he explained is that although the cell phone power is low, electromagnetic radiation can nevertheless have an effect on mental behavior when transmitting at the proper frequency.
00:43:56.000So do you think that they're making this 5G... No, they declassified last year a 37-page CIA manual from the 1970s where they were putting up cell towers that look like trees already testing at neighborhoods.
00:45:09.000And I thought it was a sigh-out before, and then I've researched it.
00:45:12.000I've talked to hundreds of people now, not on air, but I'm going to make a film on this, who've taken ayahuasca and DMT. I've not taken it, for obvious reasons.
00:45:23.000And it's unbelievable, because, I mean, they 100% in San Francisco is the main project site.
00:45:37.000And they've got like astronaut level people taking super hardcore levels of drugs and going into meetings with these things and making intergalactic deals.
00:45:45.000And again, that's what the government believes and says they're doing.
00:45:49.000When you say the government, that's a broad stroke.
00:46:14.000Right now, who's done DMT or done 5 grams of psilocybin, they know that you have some kind of communication with something else.
00:46:24.000The question is, is that something else inside your psyche, or is that something else, a chemical doorway?
00:46:30.000Is there a chemical doorway inside the mind that opens up, and the belief is that when you die, and this is what the afterlife is, that when you die, your brain...
00:46:41.000Produces these chemicals, these chemicals open up this doorway, and this is the portal to the next dimension.
00:46:58.000And people that have the courage to experiment with these things and try them themselves realize that this is such a profound experience that it's so alien that if an alien landed right now in our parking lot and a little gray man with big black eyes got out, it would be nothing compared to what I've seen on psychedelic trips.
00:47:43.000You go down to 62% oxygen, that's another time that the brain releases DMT. So my whole life, since I was about, my first memories were every night was a DMT trip.
00:47:56.000So I basically, I don't want this to sound arrogant, it's not.
00:48:03.000Well, I believe that when you're dreaming, it's most likely the same chemicals that are being released.
00:48:09.000Well, a key point, when you go into the REM sleep, it opens the gate, which scientists have proven your brain is working in the fourth, fifth, sixth dimension.
00:48:17.000And if you can work into those dimensions, you can see beyond it.
00:48:19.000So what I'm trying to tell you is this.
00:48:20.000I know you already know all this, Joe.
00:48:22.000But for your audience, here's what's happening.
00:48:52.000To the ayahuasca and the DMT that they promoted, which good, strong people that have a compass don't have problems with, but weak-minded, stupid people and others.
00:49:43.000We're sitting there, and we take to ayahuasca, and then all these basically elves, aliens, come out of the woods, and we're all seeing the same aliens.
00:49:50.000We're all hearing the same thing, and it's like 43 of us or whatever are seeing it.
00:49:55.000He goes, but it was the drug's effect on our brains.
00:50:25.000The reason why they called it telepathine is because when they were taking ayahuasca, they were having these group experiences that were undeniable.
00:50:31.000They were experiencing very vividly the same things.
00:50:35.000So the government's obviously obsessed with this and isn't worried about...
00:50:54.000Okay, but that term, the problem with that term is it lumps you into like, you know that Mel Gibson movie, Conspiracy Theory, where a wacky dude was driving a cab and believed in fucking tinfoil hat type shit?
00:52:03.000The OxyContin company, the documents came out, said, we're going to totally addict people and then we're going to sell them drugs to get off of it.
00:53:04.000But I'm on record 20 years ago before anybody else was talking about the clockwork elves and how the globalists think they're in touch with these entities and things.
00:53:14.000Only because, and I don't want to get...
00:53:17.000I'm not in the CIA. The CIA's bigger than Coca-Cola.
00:56:11.000Because Eddie's right, NASA's a big secret group.
00:56:13.000It's the other side of the breakaway government.
00:56:15.000There's the CIA breakaway government in 1947. And there's Kennedy setting up NASA in 1961. So there are two different competing breakaway governments.
00:56:23.000And those are the real governments in the U.S. When you say by breakaway governments, what do you mean?
00:56:27.000Breakaway governments, breakaway civilizations, it's the real groups that are like the cult.
00:57:10.000That's why the governor said, who's actually an orphan harvesting doctor, he goes, we keep the babies alive after they're born and have a discussion.
00:57:17.000They are getting caught now because we've decompartmentalized.
01:02:09.000You saw all the Planned Parenthood videos out of Texas and California two years ago that Project Veritas and others got where they're saying, I'm getting a yellow Ferrari.
01:02:17.000Man, I'm making hundreds of thousands off each baby week with partial birth.
01:02:36.000We had a committee hearing yesterday when Fairfax County Delegate Kathy Tran made her case for lifting restrictions on third trimester abortions, as well as other restrictions now in place.
01:02:45.000And she was pressed by a Republican delegate about whether her bill would permit an abortion, even as a woman is essentially dilating, ready to give birth.
01:02:54.000And she answered that it would permit an abortion at that stage of labor.
01:03:00.000Do you support her measure and explain her answer?
01:03:03.000Yeah, you know, I wasn't there, Julie, and I certainly can't.
01:03:08.000Speak for Delegate Tran, but I would tell you, one, first thing I would say, this is why decisions such as this should be made by providers, physicians, and the mothers and fathers that are involved.
01:03:34.000Mothers and fathers that are involved.
01:03:37.000There are, you know, when we talk about third trimester abortions, these are done with the consent of obviously the mother, with the consent.
01:03:47.000Of the physicians, more than one physician, by the way.
01:03:50.000And it's done in cases where there may be severe deformities.
01:03:54.000There may be a fetus that's non-viable.
01:03:57.000So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen.
01:04:44.000She's trying to lift that requirement.
01:04:45.000Well, I think it's always good to get a second opinion and for at least two providers to be involved in that decision because these decisions shouldn't be taken lightly.
01:04:54.000And so, you know, I would certainly support more than one provider.
01:05:35.000Turns out, when I saw that clip a month ago, because they had them doing debate about the bill, and they said, yeah, we'll kill babies after they're born.
01:05:43.000And they're debating, well, how far along?
01:07:41.000It's passed into a special ward with doctors that make a few million a year.
01:07:46.000And the little flesh ball is kept alive and comfortable until all the orders come in the plains land and they take the organs and they take the blood and they take the skin, Joe.
01:08:30.000When I was a decade later at my grandparents' house before my grandpa died, watching 60 Minutes, and it was Dallas, Texas, and Chicago caught killing people that were viable to take their organs.
01:10:14.000This guy who wrote this book, El Narco, his name is Yohan Grillo, and he's an investigative journalist who lives in Mexico, and he studies the cartels.
01:10:49.000And all the things they did and all the beheadings that they did.
01:10:52.000he was saying that they'd try to that the in certain Certain groups of people, when they have this organization, they try to get them used to horrific acts.
01:11:02.000Well, it's called the cement of blood.
01:11:05.000And that's a Heinrich Himmler term, head of the SS, is that the SS, you know, Hitler had about seven, eight years before he launched the war.
01:11:13.000So he got like 12-year-olds ready for war.
01:11:16.000And they would get them, like, having fun and swimming and working out and boxing.
01:11:21.000And then they would, like, when they were, like, 15, give them a super hot hooker and then give them drugs.
01:11:26.000LSD didn't get discovered in Switzerland.
01:12:30.000So what would happen was, first they gave him sex, they gave him power, they would really pressure him to go through things, and then they would basically just condition them to do whatever they were told, and they called the cement of blood, because then...
01:12:48.000It's just like satanic cults say, you know, kill your dog.
01:12:50.000I mean, I remember when I was growing up in Rockwell, Texas, I ran into like a satanic cult.
01:12:53.000I was like, God, this girl's a senior in high school.
01:13:05.000And I'm walking out of the house, because I look like I was about 16 when I was, you know, 13. And the dad goes, you like screwing my daughter?
01:13:57.000A dog will take on its master's aura, and it can be evil.
01:14:01.000Joe, I'm just totally spilling my gut, sir.
01:14:03.000People need to know about all this, and this is what's going on, and this is what's happening.
01:14:08.000So they want the cement of blood, is they get people in a group, and they get them to do horrible, evil things during peer pressure, and then they create this synthesis.
01:14:16.000You have to know the darker elements of the criminal networks that are inside our government are actually running Mexico as a laboratory test.
01:14:24.000Because they know Native Americans are gung-ho, and they're tough, and they're ready to fight.
01:14:30.000I'm part Native American, only like 6%, Comanche, and Texas, and just that little bit makes me wild.
01:14:37.000And so they can get them, because they're powerful, they're smart, they're neat, they're cool, but genetically, they go into groupthink really, really fast.
01:14:48.000And so Native Americans, you can mind control really fast.
01:15:04.000Or Hun, because there was always some whites and Vikings even 10,000 years ago going into the area.
01:15:09.000But in fights, like in Korea fighting the Chinese, that's who were really fighting there, or Vietnam.
01:15:17.000Do you think, I mean, they're like, they're conscious and real people, but when they get into a fight, they all sync up and are robots and have no fear.
01:15:25.000I mean, you're talking about psychotic killers you're fighting.
01:15:27.000And so Asians are about the most fearless killers there are.
01:15:43.000Do you think that's from their heritage of war?
01:15:45.000Like if you think about Japan, Japan has a long history of being a noble warrior culture with the samurais and all the martial arts that have come from there.
01:16:24.000Well, not just that, the soldiers and even the civilians.
01:16:27.000No, no, I agree, but the ruling class was the samurai, the shoguns.
01:16:31.000The ruling class was the shoguns, right?
01:16:33.000When you think about what a small place Japan is, and how stunning it is that so much innovation, especially in terms of my line of work, martial arts...
01:16:42.000And I don't get into bell curves, because you've got black people that are as smart as any white person, and then you've got black people that are way better at sports or whatever.
01:16:49.000And then you've got the head of your former...
01:16:51.000It was Cold Springs Harbor, Watson, comes out and says blacks aren't human, all that BS. That's just the racist crap that's in the government.
01:16:57.000But it's true that some groups of Northern Europeans...
01:17:02.000And then the Japanese, on average, per capita, have the highest IQ. And so they're Japanese, and then there are some Northern Europeans that have the highest IQs.
01:17:12.000But then you can get into, like, say, Jews have very high IQs on average.
01:17:15.000European Jews have an extraordinary high number of Nobel Prize winners.
01:17:53.000People that are Jewish, that are German, that are Chinese, that are Japanese, that are Italian, that are Mexican, people that either through fear or whatever get into dark side, light side.
01:18:04.000Get into, don't give people the knowledge, control the people, dumb them down, dominate them because they're only rocket fuel for you to go to the next level.
01:18:13.000You know what's interesting about this?
01:18:53.000But if you look at the black Israelites, or you look at La Raza or Mecha, or you look at some of the right-wing Jewish groups, the Chinese, every group says what the master race is.
01:20:40.000Trump's trying to denuclearize, and everybody's loving it in South Korea and Japan and North Korea, and he's actually got them to not fire missiles and destroy nuclear science.
01:20:47.000There's a real problem in people not being able to say that anything that Trump does is good.
01:20:52.000If a Democrat was doing what Trump was doing on some issues, I disagree with some, I would support them.
01:20:57.000I don't give a damn what their D or R. And so then, Trump got rid.
01:21:04.000He's getting rid of the minimum sentences.
01:21:06.000I mean, Hillary Clinton, you know, oh God, I saw this the other day.
01:21:50.000Okay, but let's get back to what we were trying to say, was that if he does anything good, no one can accept it because he's on the wrong team.
01:21:57.000That's part of the problem with what's going on.
01:22:00.000It's part of the problem with people willing to accept ridiculous shit on the left and people willing to accept ridiculous shit on the right.
01:23:24.000What we were saying was that he was doing a joke about the red states wishing that they were the blue states and you were saying that that's wrong.
01:23:31.000And I was saying, he's just fucking around.
01:25:01.000They have turned all of the so-called comic shows into fake comics posing as fake news people, putting out political commentary, which people take as real and believe on the street.
01:25:11.000And so that's where all the propaganda is.
01:25:14.000And so you say, Bill Maher's just joking around.
01:26:28.000And I got a call about a month ago, and they're like, wow, this is incredible.
01:26:33.000Don't say my name, but you can talk about it.
01:26:34.000They were going to offer me this new big lucrative show, but they said, you're going to come out and denounce Alex Jones on the show, or we're not going to give you the show, and he said no.
01:28:45.000And then they're just going to keep moving it.
01:28:46.000They're just going to keep moving it forward, moving the goalposts, and providing you with more money and giving you more things, but keep moving it in a certain direction.
01:28:58.000And that's how network television got started.
01:29:00.000If you really think about what network television is, the reason why they don't swear and they don't have explicit content isn't because people wouldn't want to see it.
01:29:08.000The reason is because the advertisers won't let them.
01:29:11.000There's a whole commerce aspect to it.
01:29:13.000It's not just, hey, you're the CSI guys, or hey...
01:29:17.000Exactly, and so now they've organized with Sleeping Giants and Media Matters a couple million people that call and threaten and attack anybody, and then notice, Joe, once they're done with me, now it's, Joe, you better not have this person on, or you better have that person on.
01:30:41.000Because when I was going big guns on you, just so you know what it's like to be judged, I I thought that you probably never had me on the show.
01:30:49.000It was not an attempt to get back on your show.
01:30:51.000Listen, I knew that if I'd gotten to the point where you were that upset, that I must have made mistakes too.
01:30:56.000I'm not that person that sees things and always points in the other direction.
01:33:07.000Even before that happened with you, I got approached by a major Hollywood actor that my name's never been associated with.
01:33:14.000And they said, listen, George Soros told me to tell you that he'd have been killed if he didn't do that, and that he did what he had to do.
01:33:25.000And I said, you tell George, if somebody put a gun to my head and said, we're going to kill you if you don't help round up Joe Rogan's kids and put them in a concentration camp, I'd say, oh yeah, I agree with you, and I'd grab the gun away and kill them.
01:33:38.000He just said that it was just taking property.
01:34:19.000So when I'm 14, in retrospect, if somebody said, you're going to help round up your community, or we're going to kill you, I would have tried to kill people that were trying to kill my people.
01:35:00.000It was invigorating to be there with all this evil going on, but I was with my father, and I had faith in him, and so we were able to do this.
01:35:08.000And then I went and looked at the logs and the records of him.
01:35:12.000He was going around looking for Anne Franks, man, and getting their money.
01:35:41.000What are you saying that he's like crashing economies?
01:35:46.000When I was a kid watching PBS, and maybe they were lying, maybe he's great, George Soros was an international currency speculator who overthrew governments.
01:37:28.000In Britain, Black Wednesday, September 16, 1992, the day the speculators broke the pound.
01:37:33.000They didn't actually break it, but they forced the British government to pull it from the European exchange rate mechanism, joining the ERM. Which was part of breaking the pound to launch the euro.
01:37:46.000Although it stood apart from the European currencies, the British pound, blah, blah, blah, compounding the underlying problems inherent in the pound's inclusion in the ERM. I'm not seeing this.
01:37:54.000Where's the part where George Soros does this?
01:38:01.000Spotting the writing on the wall, Britain upped its interest rates to teens and attract people to the pound, but speculators, George Soros among them, began heavily shorting the currency.
01:38:11.000The British government gave in and withdrew the ERM as it became clear that it was losing billions trying to buoy its currency artificially.
01:38:20.000Although it was a bitter pill to swallow, the pound came back stronger because the excess interest in high inflation.
01:38:27.000But Joe, you notice you go to Investopedia, like it's the boss.
01:41:13.000France has banned owning German war memorabilia.
01:41:16.000If I go to the Smithsonian, the coolest thing I ever saw at the Smithsonian when I was a kid, so proud of us beating the Nazis, was they had a German helmet with a bullet hole in it.
01:42:03.000And that's the political correctness that I literally had a family member, this was like 18 years ago, go, I'm really upset about what I found.
01:44:09.000Both my grandfathers, and I'm not bragging about family, but you remember Tom Landry.
01:44:12.000My grandfather was UT football, won state championships in track, my mom's dad, and he went in the Army Air Corps with Tom Landry.
01:44:20.000I remember being over there on Sundays, even before he played for the Dallas Cowboys, he'd be like, Tom Landry would call and they'd pray for five minutes.
01:44:25.000Both my grandfathers, both Jerry Jones and my mother's father, Mr. Hammond, almost died in a crash landing and another deal.
01:44:38.000I almost died I don't almost exist because my family, America, fought Hitler.
01:44:44.000And then now I'm a Nazi because I believe in the Second Amendment and I believe in America.
01:50:07.000I'm going to have surgery for my torn bicep.
01:50:08.000Well, once you have surgery for your bicep and everything gets fixed, I think once you get your bicep torn, you're probably going to be a little bit out of action.
01:51:57.000And then like a week later, she goes, now I'm going to choke you out.
01:52:02.000And that relationship went really well until her 30-year-old boyfriend caught me at her place once because her mom was always working and tried to kill me in the parking lot.
01:53:20.000I always use this because everyone's heard of it.
01:53:23.000Everyone heard about 1947 to 1983, and it only came public because the program was exposed in Peru and was exposed in West Virginia, but the media picked up because it was white on black.
01:53:36.000Not all the white people it happened to.
01:53:38.000I don't care if you're black or white.
01:53:40.000Injecting over a million people with live syphilis in the name of vaccines.
01:54:21.000But was the conventional explanation of what happened, was that that they knew that they had it and they allowed them to pretend they had it?
01:54:29.000No, that was the first cover story that came out.
01:54:44.000U.S. government medical researchers intentionally infected hundreds of people in Guatemala, including institutionalized mental patients with gonorrhea and syphilis without their knowledge or permission more than 60 years ago.
01:56:20.000Would get a lot of stuff right, but they would get demoted or whatever would happen.
01:56:25.000Once Trump got in, which I don't think Trump's bad and the gut level thing is good, but I almost think like it's more sophisticated.
01:56:32.000They put him in on it and piss everybody off to get the liberals who traditionally have been the real watchdogs for free speech and against human experimentation.
01:56:40.000And suddenly they're like in Gallup polls.
01:57:07.000So imagine, imagine, I have literally, by the time Sandy Hook happens, I've literally seen...
01:57:15.00010,000 articles and documents or more where they're admitting, in 1962, the Joint Chiefs of Staff under L.L. Lemonser came to President Kennedy, this is on PBS, and said, we're going to blow up buildings, shoot up schools and movie theaters, and bomb army bases and marine bases.
01:57:33.000We're going to have people with their kids, with name change, with the CIA, get on a jumbo jet that takes off.
01:57:43.000But that plane really lands, and there's another plane that's a drone we blow up, and then Kennedy says no, but his brother says no, I'll do it.
01:57:52.000That's why they killed Kennedy, because Bobby said he would, but then he got pissed when they killed his brother.
01:58:13.000And so imagine, you see hundreds of these, and then a Sandy Hook happens, and your listeners don't buy it, and then it's a psychosis where then...
01:58:23.000Well, because every man I knew, and this is hypothetical, my dad was great.
01:58:27.000Every man I knew when I was a kid backhanded me and beat the crap out of me, so men are bad.
01:58:31.000Or a woman that's been raped, you know, she thinks all men are bad.
01:58:33.000So I get like this psychosis, and I'm not trying to put myself down, like I'm a victim.
01:58:38.000I'm being honest retrospectively that it got to where when I learned that so much stuff was false, then later I experienced.
01:58:46.000Where I had the guest, I did the thing, I knew it was true, and then people made up a whole story because they don't believe anything anymore.
01:58:56.000Do you think part of it is that even though this stuff does exist, it's almost like there's too many things happening for one person to pay attention to all of them.
01:59:44.000So my point is, if you believe that, no other conspiracy theory, whether they're right or wrong, like government conspiracy, should be ridiculed.
02:07:51.000They're giving a bunch of goddamn fucking organ harvesting doctors control outside of law.
02:07:56.000You heard that piece of shit, fucking KKK guy, fucking governor, say we're going to keep them alive after they're fucking born because they want to fucking take their organs.
02:11:23.000In World War I, the Japanese learned about MSG. Because Japanese like good food.
02:11:27.000And they're like, the military wouldn't complain.
02:11:30.000They'd just lose weight and starve to death.
02:11:32.000So they learned when they were fighting the Russians in World War I to just go ahead and give them MSG. Which MSG, it holds your brain and everything.
02:13:16.000It wasn't just my grandfather, or was these other people.
02:13:19.000My grandfather said it was really confusing for him.
02:13:22.000Because he worked for this guy that was in refrigeration and air conditioning when he was in high school and his dad owned the car dealerships in Dallas and stuff and they lived there in the rich area of Dallas.
02:15:15.000And then I found out that this mentor of mine, this guy would be like Bill Gates today, had everything he had sucked out of him by the Nazis.
02:15:25.000So that's what the Nazis would do, was extort and control.
02:19:04.000In 1935, and I've seen documentaries and read about it, he sketched for Hitler this plan to drop atomic bombs that they hadn't developed yet.
02:19:14.000So when you see Red Skull, Marvel comic, they've got a big bomber to blow up New York.
02:19:18.000It wasn't a bomber, it was a space plane.
02:20:22.000The CIA in 47. So now the Nazis are over here and they go, listen, you don't want them running everything.
02:20:30.000And they go to Eisenhower and they say, we want to launch a off-base breakaway civilization where you compartmentalize things, forget empires, and you have a new ruling class of technological elites.
02:20:56.000And so Eisenhower gives a speech, worry about, he doesn't just say military industrial complex, he says the technological elite, watch the full 21 minute speech, his farewell address in 62, he says, or 61, he says you need to Watch out about the scientist, because he said no to the NASA plan when he found out what it was.
02:22:31.000NASA is the German breakaway government.
02:22:35.000It's always the Germans and the Brits fighting for dominance.
02:22:38.000So what you're saying is when Operation Paperclip acquired all those Nazi scientists, they essentially started running NASA, so NASA became almost like an offshoot of the German government, this offshoot government?
02:22:49.000Yeah, the Germans had piled all the wealth away.
02:22:52.000They had everything, so they made deals.
02:22:54.000Does that really make sense, though, that in 2019 that's still going on?
02:23:47.000Hitler would go to mainline historical books about SS castles where they go, the aliens want blood, so they'd kill like 20 kids and everything, so the aliens would like come in the middle.
02:26:27.000But you never hear about him since 1941. Because they had a peace treaty with Edward VIII, who was the King of England, who was a Nazi, and who was German.
02:26:38.000And they had a deal to stage the attack.
02:27:38.000The castle the king was in at the time, in like northern England, I forget the name of it, he parachutes in with the peace treaty signed by the king of England.
02:27:48.000They lock him up in the tower for the rest of his life.
02:31:31.000It's people who are psychically, genetically available to interface in this incredibly diverse universe with all these dimensions above and below and all around us with consciousnesses.
02:31:45.000And the truth is, no energy is ever destroyed.
02:32:20.000Their strength, their will, their bad, their good, their sins, the good things they did, the battles they won, the battles they lost, the woman they loved, the man they loved.
02:33:10.000When I read all these books about World War II and the Nazis and Hitler obsessed with the Dalai Lama and the Tibetans and what they were able to do without drugs to interface with this and all the rituals they would do and how they would believe that beyond the ether, like at Skull and Bones, it's a German death cult, they do rituals and take drugs to talk to the goddesses.
02:33:28.000Well, they're just appearing as, you know, sexy, beautiful women.
02:33:30.000It's whatever you want as these spirit guides because lower entities will come in and violate your free will.
02:33:38.000God and his angels, which are below him, will not get involved in your everyday life.
02:34:49.000And they were seduced because they had high IQs, but more than that, they were psychically connected to each other and would work like robots.
02:34:57.000The Chinese and the EU want robots to replace us because they'll follow orders.
02:35:01.000And the Chinese are very conscious when they're conscious, but they're also very robotic.
02:35:10.000As its attempt, even in World War I, World War II, and it was manipulating the Brits as well, and offering them technologies, but two different paths.
02:35:17.000One was social control, and all this other stuff with the Brits.
02:35:21.000The other was high-tech weapons, systems, interdimensional with the Germans.
02:35:25.000And so, whoever these players are, and you can dial into it, but it's very dangerous.
02:35:30.000They're manipulating the British arm versus the German arm, and then they've got the Chinese arm that's almost seen as like their robot army.
02:35:37.000And so when you study it, the globalists go to these events and they take bigger and bigger doses of drugs.
02:35:55.000They were having people turn their heart off to try to communicate with these things, to try to be dominant and get that.
02:36:02.000So you go back thousands of years, Merlin, the archetypal, or these magicians or these wizards are taking drugs in these temples and interfacing with these palantirs, these crystal balls, which aren't really crystal balls.
02:36:16.000It's their Psychic focus of an interdimensional connection while they're on drugs looking into glass to then be able to see the future and understand what's happening to give them temporal power over this planet.
02:36:28.000But like the Bible tells you, any pharmakia or any of that always leads to destruction because only evil is going to come through that way.
02:36:34.000So we basically have these light sockets.
02:36:37.000We can't jack into the higher unless it's our free will and that takes time.
02:37:14.000They had virtual reality gloves where you'd put them on and put goggles on and you'd go into stuff that looked like the holodeck from Star Trek.
02:39:30.000My dad didn't tell me this until he saw Endgame, and he said, no, son, we had virtual reality goggles, and we had CD-ROM, and we had things, and then something else happened, and I'm not at liberty to get into it, but I was shown three years ago.
02:39:47.000What the University of Washington was doing under Bill Gates.
02:40:47.000So these dudes are like, it stops working once you've taken it hundreds of times.
02:40:51.000So then they start taking their most psychic people who are able to do this and they turn their heart off.
02:40:57.000And then they put them into these events and it's like the things that aliens tell them, they come out and they tell scientists and it works.
02:45:07.000I've heard that theory that it's not a real living thing.
02:45:10.000The idea is that at a certain point in time you can interface with that robot so that you can see it in real time through its eyes somewhere else.
02:45:17.000Wait, so you believe in grays are real?
02:47:03.000It was the CIA. It was the former deputy director, basically the CIA section chief, founder of Delta Force, who got me to, like two weeks ago, Alex, you're not saying Sandy Hook's stage.
02:47:15.000You need to go say Sandy Hook's stage.
02:47:32.000I'm sure there's people setting everybody up.
02:47:34.000If you think, I told you about this, I don't know if I told you, but I told people that have listened to this podcast, but this woman, Renee DiResta, and she had a podcast with Sam Harris.
02:47:42.000Where they went into detail about the operation that people had used to troll Facebook pages and Instagram pages where the Russians had created these trollbots and these meme pages.
02:47:55.000Hundreds of thousands of hilarious memes.
02:47:56.000By the way, the Russians are all doing it.
02:49:26.000But he heard me say that Jimmy Savelle would go have sex with dead kids and also cut out their pituitaries that has adrenochrome in it and eat it.
02:49:38.000And I know that sounds completely insane.
02:51:01.000Total new guidelines where if you play anybody's content and you get a strike against you, you're pulled for 90 days, you can't stream, you can't do shit.
02:51:08.000Yeah, now they're saying you can't have comments that are bad.
02:52:00.000There's something to this idea that one giant corporation can decide, especially based on their own personal ideology, what gets put on and what doesn't get put on.
02:52:57.000You're like, I don't believe that Alex says that some BBC broadcaster would go have sex with dead kids' bodies at the morgue and eat their brains.
02:54:27.000I have literally been trying to find out what's going on.
02:54:30.000And as you get older, you figure out more stuff.
02:54:33.000I am not the one saying there's all these aliens.
02:54:36.000The entire government and all of these advanced groups, that's why they've given up on space, is they're all about interdimensional.
02:54:42.000So I didn't finish up about, and I want to get Eddie's take, then I'll get into your take, is that I've got a pretty good understanding by interviewing a bunch of people involved about what the master plan is and exactly who we're dealing with, because it's not just one group of aliens.
02:55:54.000And that's why they got to the point of saying, well, why should we try to go to other places?
02:55:57.000The third dimension is just this empty wasteland.
02:55:59.000Above it and below it is all this incredibly complex stuff.
02:56:02.000But our brains tune all of it out because we can't handle it.
02:56:07.000That's why, like, young people before they hit puberty are known to be psychic, because for whatever reason, they're able to see through the veil.
02:56:12.000And all religions are based about seeing through the veil.
02:56:15.000Well, that's what intense meditation does for you, right?
02:56:17.000That's holotropic breathing, a lot of that kundalini stuff.
02:56:21.000What they're doing is allowing your brain to relax its boundaries and interface with all the other dimensions that are around us all the time.
02:57:32.000Doing DMT. I've 100% communicated with something.
02:57:36.000The question is whether that something was actually in my imagination or in my mind, or that something was something that takes place in another dimension.
02:58:19.000I just don't believe in demons, but I did see basically aliens come up to the edge of the forest, and we were all seeing the same thing, but I think it was a chemical reaction.
02:58:35.000When you're taking a hallucinogen and suddenly you're all seeing the same thing, it just means it clicked off the part of your brain as a filter, so you go crazy.
02:59:53.000Why can't you experience that interdimensional being and learn something from it?
02:59:58.000And be a better person when you come out of it?
03:00:00.000Because, for whatever reason, at first it's all beautiful and soon you're an Aztec base, cadnipping all the local tribes and killing whoever's the tallest or the smartest.
03:01:46.000Jamie says, it says they, between, wow, between 10,000 and 84. 80,400 persons were sacrificed in the ceremony in 1487 when the Aztecs completed the temple.
03:05:57.000Or if they came by themselves, they came by themselves a long fucking time ago.
03:06:02.000Like, if they were able to make interstellar travel like 3,000 years ago, which is not that big of a leap, if you think about us 3,000 years from now...
03:06:11.000We probably can do something like that, right?
03:06:13.000So if they were doing that 3,000 years ago, and they found human beings, and these are the stories that we have, these stories like Ezekiel, and like, there's a bunch of different ancient stories about contact with the skies.
03:09:56.000Because reportedly, obviously humans are pretty freaking cool.
03:10:00.000We've got some big giant mission, and maybe that's a program, I don't know, that we're like pretty super advanced, but you can't put something out like the Spartans where when their kids were seven they'd throw them out for two years in the woods.
03:10:14.000You can't just put something out like liberals.
03:12:38.000Describe what you saw on DMT. You tell us.
03:12:40.000You have these experiences where thoughts become patterns.
03:12:43.000They become geometric patterns that are moving through space, and they change and shift, but they're letting you know that they know all your bullshit.
03:13:23.000To smoke it and then lay back and then experience that is like I expected that progression of events.
03:13:31.000But if I woke up in the middle of the night, I was going to take a leak, and a light shone down through the bathroom and they sucked me through the window, took me aboard a spaceship, and I saw the exact same thing that I saw while I was high on DMT, I'd be 100% convinced that I was in contact with aliens.
03:16:36.000One of the reasons why you can rant and rave and when you spew out information the way you do, which is very impressive, the way you can talk about things and get excited about things, you do the majority of your programs entirely by yourself.
03:17:49.000Do you have your finger on a membrane that maybe other people can't totally touch?
03:17:54.000Where occasionally, just occasionally, you get a little peek through and you get to see the other side, even if it's only once or twice in your life.
03:18:01.000Who's to say that what you're experiencing by being able to see these things that manifest themselves realistically in the future, that this isn't what human beings will have five years from now or a hundred years from now?
03:19:24.000And it would just be this big, giant, spinning black vortex, like a black hole.
03:19:28.000And then I would have to go into that, trying to figure out what was going on, and it was the same thing.
03:19:34.000And so it's just incredible frustration.
03:19:36.000So then growing up and dealing with things and questioning politics and questioning all these other areas, and then having dreams that come true exactly, and knowing what's going to happen before it happens, and then questioning it, and then it never being wrong.
03:21:54.000God is experiencing consciousness through all of us.
03:21:56.000You know, Mike, where I have a hard time saying that I know this, I could say God might be decentralized.
03:22:03.000I could say God might just be just like every other organism on the planet.
03:22:07.000It's just something that's moving in a certain direction, trying to protect itself and trying to procreate and trying to advance and trying to innovate and trying to be better than it was yesterday.
03:22:49.000This is a point, and this is one of the reasons why I wanted to discuss this with you, and this is one of the things that I talked about with Tim Pool recently, and one of the things that when we have a revised podcast, which is coming up very soon with Jack from Twitter, We all need to talk about open communication.
03:23:06.000It's very bad for all people involved to shut people down from communicating as long as they're not doing anything to actively try to harm somebody.
03:23:17.000Well, Kennedy said, those that make people peaceful...
03:23:21.000People that make peaceful action illegal and make violence inevitable.
03:23:25.000Yes, but you might have paraphrased it, but that's a perfect quote.
03:23:29.000People don't like being left on the outside, and that's what I came...
03:23:32.000One of the things about you and I having this conversation, and we had our blow-up, is coming to understand that you felt like you were left on the outside.
03:23:39.000And me, as a person who was constantly busy and wasn't paying attention to that...
03:23:43.000It was selfish of me to not pay attention to how you must have felt to be stuck on the outside.
03:24:04.000This is hilarious, and you say a lot of shit that turns out to be real, and turns out to be of real concern, and you make some really good points about all the shit that has happened in the past.
03:26:41.000When they supposedly make those missions to the ISS when they shoot up, just have one of the astronauts that's going to go to the ISS just have a GoPro camera on his helmet and just go uncut.
03:28:54.000I was watching Minions 3 or 4 where they go to the U.S. and they run through the Minions, you know, run through Hollywood and they're staging the moon landing.
03:30:57.000My point of all that was, I don't want to have a space discussion either, but my point is that if there's people out there that believe we faked...
03:32:00.000It's the same science that allows people to understand the distance between Earth and Mars.
03:32:05.000But that kind of stuff, then you get into...
03:32:07.000Yes, it's still science, but you have to believe it.
03:32:09.000By the way, I'm not trying to make points because, Eddie, you've taught me a lot and you're a really smart guy, an entrepreneur and a badass.
03:32:15.000So I think it's healthy to be where you're at, questioning everything, versus buying everything.
03:32:47.000And it's one of the things that Jamie and I have actually discussed when we talked about the Gemini 15 photo.
03:32:52.000The famous photo of Michael Collins that turns out to be just a reverse of a photo of him on a training mission where he's in a harness and the whole thing.
03:32:58.000Yeah, they wanted PR! They used PR. That's what I said.
03:34:25.000You know, it would be incredibly tragic as if they actually did go to the moon, but they faked the footage because of the radiation.
03:34:32.000So they released this bullshit footage and nobody ever believed.
03:34:35.000But do you know how horrific that would be if you were a guy like Neil Armstrong and you knew that the footage was bullshit, but you actually had gone to the moon?
03:38:34.000But it makes me feel sometimes like reality.
03:38:38.000Like, that movie was so strange because it was like this weird, scripted reality that these people were like, they'd have to find their way through the surface and shit.
03:39:48.00064. How many satellites are the GPS? So there's this whole GPS, and you can, like, leave L.A., On a ship, and you can go all the way over to Japan and see everybody, and go down around India and around Africa, and you can go land in New York.
03:41:13.000And then over here, you've got people that just believe whatever they see on CNN. And me, I'm just trying to look at everything going, well, they've lied a lot, but sometimes it's not that.
03:42:54.000Yeah, and it's not like I'm afraid of the fight, but I'm 45, and I've had a long, adventurous life, so I'm probably like 60. And I was already, like, I wasn't sure about Trump or whatever.
03:43:08.000I had this really bad feeling when he got elected, not that he was bad, just like, oh, the war's about to start.
03:43:12.000And then I was already planning to kind of face things out, just because I don't, like, doubt when I'm 55 of a heart attack.
03:43:18.000And the fact that they attack me so much makes me have to battle and fight and never give up.
03:43:23.000And so, it's not like they even wore me down before they ever, they kept me in the game.
03:43:56.000I have dreams that are like 20 years long, like you talk about DMT, where I'm a farmer and it's like 500 years ago and I'm just like planning things and eating food and putting my kids to sleep and cutting trees down and walking around.
03:44:12.000I have dreams where I'm just like normal and just being a normal person.
03:44:15.000And so I never, I didn't like, the globalists think like they have all these shows, Homeland, all these shows around this big demon.
03:44:21.000I didn't like calculate what I was going to do.
03:44:23.000And then I was already not ready to give up.
03:45:04.000Now they've turned me into this maniac.
03:45:07.000Well, there's definitely some sort of a struggle going on right now.
03:45:12.000And it seems to be like a universal struggle for figuring out what people are and how we should behave and who gets to decide that.
03:45:22.000And there's certain universal truths that are ignored and there's certain ones that are overemphasized and there's certain ones that are in the Goldilocks spot.
03:47:42.000Oh, all these people are telling me how great I am.
03:47:44.000I play ball with them because I've got this thing.
03:47:47.000But they want you because they're soulless.
03:47:49.000And so all I'm saying is you've made the right decision.
03:47:52.000And I'm not just saying having me on because I'm not perfect, is deciding, no, America's still America, the world's still the world, we're allowed to talk about real things and hear real things because they want to shut other voices down so they can lie about those voices.
03:48:05.000And any idea that fears exposure or fears debate is a failed idea.
03:48:10.000Well, you know, I have a unique perspective.
03:48:13.000My perspective is less and less inclined to pursue it in the idea that it's a fight.
03:48:21.000And to have everybody communicate with each other.
03:48:23.000Because I think part of what the fuck is wrong with all of us today is that people are so willing to take sides and so willing to join teams and so willing to fight about shit that they really don't have to fight about.
03:48:34.000I wanted to say this, I'm going to say it because this is so powerful.
03:50:07.000And understand that emotions cloud judgment and that when people start screaming and yelling at each other and you take one side and you're the left and this guy takes another side and he's the right and you're going back and forth.
03:50:19.000And you don't ever get anything solved and you never get to understand how that other person thinks and feels.
03:50:24.000And we're constantly trying to mock people.
03:50:26.000And what you were talking about, about the Bill Maher thing, about him cracking a joke, and I dismissed it as a joke because it was a joke.
03:50:32.000We were talking about how the red states wish they were the blue states and all that shit.
03:50:35.000That's exactly the type of thing we're talking about, though.
03:57:04.000Is it possible that even though Operation Northwoods happened, Gulf of Tonkin was a conspiracy, is it possible that the internal fires in that building were so unbelievably hot that it fucked up every floor and they really did pancake on top of each other and then the exterior structure just collapsed?
03:57:59.000And they said, the decision has been made to save other buildings to control demolition of the Solomon Brothers building, Building 7. By the way, we have these clips now.
04:01:06.000She's saying That there was no rubble.
04:01:09.000The name of the book is called Where Did the Towers Go?
04:01:12.000She said that direct energy weapons, some kind of direct energy weapons, dustified the buildings, turned the buildings to dust because there was no rubble.
04:05:57.000I think you guys talked enough aliens to fucking really boost your search engine results on YouTube.
04:06:03.000No, we'll be eliminated from all search engine results.
04:06:07.000There's no doubt you'll be penalized for this.
04:06:09.000And Joe, you should say something about that.
04:06:11.000You're an American, you're allowed to talk to me.
04:06:13.000Because they're going to say, Joe Rogan had Jones on to say no one died of Sandy Hook.
04:06:17.000B.S. Well, I don't think anyone's going to say that.
04:06:22.000But people probably will say some things.
04:06:24.000But I think also, you know, the idea that, like, anybody should be able to tell you that you can't talk anymore, ever.
04:06:33.000If you said one thing that people don't like, or if you do talk, it has to be only on your site, and you have to be trapped out of all of the different platforms for social media.
04:06:52.000You may have said things that are angry in the past about certain people or been angry about a certain event in the news, but you're not a hurtful, angry person.
04:07:01.000If there's things that you say that they can say, hey, this violates some sort of a pattern of behavior, you're attacking someone, you're giving out someone's address, that kind of shit, they should be able to take it down.
04:07:51.000Do you think that maybe it made it easy for some of the people that were going to attack you, and I've been guilty of this myself, by providing fuel?
04:10:16.000We were just talking about social media and YouTube and people being able to silence people and push their leftist ideology or right-wing ideology.
04:10:26.000You were saying that the Republicans were manipulating the Democrats.
04:10:49.000It's big corporations lining up with China, as you said earlier, to unify the propaganda to, quote, influence China.
04:10:56.000No, dude, they get all the technology.
04:10:58.000They've used our open society to totally take over.
04:11:01.000And so that's what I'm trying to get through to you, is that they're coming after everybody.
04:11:06.000Like you said earlier, when I first met you today, you walk into the office, I was here 10 minutes before you, and you go, I want to talk about the thing you said about the censorship and how once they get us to submit, we're broken.
04:11:17.000No, what you said was that it was a slippery slope, that if you give in 1%, you go, oh, it's 1%, I still have this other 99%, and they just start moving the boundaries.
04:11:25.000They start moving it closer and closer.
04:21:29.000Dude, man, when you get dinged, there's something about getting dinged with a punch and you see that flash and you realize that your central nervous system is like 30% functional.
04:22:26.000I remember being in junior high, 6th, 7th, 8th grade, because I got choked out a couple other times, and I finally stopped.
04:22:33.000And there'd always be guys like, it's incredible.
04:22:35.000We do this during lunch, and we'd go back, and someone would press on their arteries, and the bad times would hit your head, but it'd be like, one time, I remember this one time, they'd choke me out, and all of a sudden it was like a black knight with a sword.
04:22:52.000And then, like, it went, and then I was, like, in England thousands of years ago, and I had this wife and these kids, and it was a whole lifetime, like, taking care of them and, like, growing food.
04:23:02.000And, like, a kid starved to death and died.
04:23:05.000And it was, like, just those moments were, like, whole lives, dead kids, everything.
04:23:56.000They probably got attacked by some bear somewhere, and somehow or another, they got through, and they survived, and that DNA got into that kid.
04:24:04.000And that left a psychic impression on the whole tribe.
04:25:20.000And he doesn't even know he's working for the system.
04:25:23.000And so that's what I'm telling you is that literally whatever it is is like a joke.
04:25:28.000Like whatever created us is like super badass.
04:25:31.000But is it possible that there's not a thing that created us but that we are just like every other organism and every other system on this planet?
04:25:37.000We're this constantly evolving thing that doesn't really have a leader and it's trying to get better constantly at everything it does.
04:25:48.000360, Joe, you're right, but there wasn't a worm learned how to crawl up the ass of a grasshopper to program and do that.
04:25:55.000There was some prime essence that was put into things that did that that said free will, and we're the top of the food chain.
04:26:02.000Or was it thousands and thousands of generations of failures?
04:26:06.000Thousands of generations of bugs that got into this grasshopper, just killed it, and then wound up suffocating to death inside of it.
04:26:13.000Even though they were a parasite, they never figured out a way to get it.
04:26:16.000And finally one of them, through some sort of weird mutation, figured out a way to interact with the brain of the grasshopper and actually guide it to the lake.
04:26:24.000Get it to jump into the water and drown, and so it would burst from its body and then swim away.
04:26:29.000No, I hear that hypothesis, but I think it's one of the most unlikely.
04:26:32.000But if you're talking about things learning from things, if things learn from things and they keep getting better over thousands and thousands of generations, but these same things keep procreating...
04:26:42.000Wouldn't it eventually get to some state where it figures out how to do something if it is still a parasite and it gets inside the body?
04:26:49.000What if it figures out, oh, if I just grow these things off the top of my head and connect it to the brain of this dumb little motherfucker, I can get him to drown to death so I can be born.
04:26:56.000No, you're saying the one thing mutated right to make the connection in an old...
04:27:01.000All the snails go up, eaten by birds, shit down, more animals eat it, and that's the thing.
04:27:06.000I think we're dealing with an unfathomable number of creatures that are being born and dying, and new ones are being born and dying.
04:27:13.000I think our puny little brains can't really calculate the exact amount of cycles that it takes to get from a single-celled organism to a human being.
04:27:40.000And so the pedophile wants to date my five-year-olds, okay.
04:27:42.000But what I'm saying is kindness unless you're a right-wing person.
04:27:46.000Now, if you think on the right, then they want to attack you.
04:27:49.000Then they want to demonize you, and if they can shut you down and silence you and find some sort of a bullshit excuse to do so, in a lot of cases it seems like some folks lean in that direction.
04:27:59.000And this is where it gets dangerous, because you can't...
04:28:01.000It's like if someone says, hey, if I knew how to fight, I'd run in front of people.
04:30:21.000Imagine if your daughter was up for a scholarship and she had to compete against some 6'5 man who identified as a woman and wanted to play basketball.
04:30:29.000I feel, hey, if you've committed a crime, if you're a felon, you can't chop your dick off.
04:32:04.000But, like, I'm going to watch NFL, and, like, we're supposed to, like, you know, like, women's NFL. And, like, it's all guys, and they say they're women.
04:32:14.000It was like a thing in England last year where the guy comes in with tattoos, a big beard, and it was in the police report.
04:33:28.000Everything we're told is humanity's bad, humanity's wrecking things, but the very environmentalist groups that are doing this are all like weird transhumanist anti-human.
04:33:37.000I'm all transhumanist if I really get life extension.
04:33:41.000But it's all like, oh, you die, you're uploaded to a machine.
04:33:44.000I'm just saying, anything you see the big corporate media promoting, they don't know what they're doing.
04:36:28.000But my point was, I don't judge things by money.
04:36:32.000Black people, because that was really a big story at the time, when I came out, because I'd seen the footage, I was watching live, and saw him take her dead body out of this black lady, I said, it's a black lady.
04:37:31.000But the point is, is that you're going to, like, target black people and then tell them that you care about them when you're the KKK Democrats and you've got Margaret Sanger set up and you're doing all this.
04:39:59.000Whether I agree with the white supremacists or the black supremacists, I don't.
04:40:01.000Whether I agree with the Scientologists or the Muslims, the point is we should agree with free speech and say no to this and not have some sellout to China.
04:40:10.000Because to go to China, you've got to waive all your rights.